Animation + CVR + ATC Audio | Überlingen mid-air collision | 1. July 2002 | Synced
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- Animation + CVR + ATC Audio | Überlingen mid-air collision | 1. July 2002 | Synced
Credits for the animation: ruclips.net/user/Michael_cnv...
Listen with headphones so you can hear the different audio channels!!!
BTC 2937 CVR: ruclips.net/video/jU0HGW3h8Vo/видео.htmlsi=qscBiukgpVNpGqZ5
DHL 611 CVR: ruclips.net/video/xSpIoXqdBTQ/видео.htmlsi=lJK_3Mje99PrPkez
I don't understand why they say bye-bye ?
Because the Aerollyod Airbus left the airspace@@moenajadmmh194
1:01 "I TOLD YOU IT WAS ON THE LEFT"
Gave me goosebumps
Me too when I heard it for the first time.
😮
don't hear it
@@mikethespike056 Listen with headphones, so can hear it.
I hear it but with no headphones
how the pilots in TU-154 gasped in recording scares me. They saw the controls. They felt the pressure on their bodies. They heard Peter. Yet they couldn't do anything. Not even say last words..
Just the terror… The way this plane is built, the cockpit likely lost all electrical power after the collision. This aircraft has the cockpit voice recorder in the front and it has it’s own battery.
It was likely just one big bang, then all the lights and instruments went dark as the cockpit got disconnected from the engines (and thus generators) and they experienced extreme g-forces as the nose section tumbled from the sky. I can’t imagine anything more scary. You know you’re utterly doomed and can’t do anything but wait for the final impact while suffering the worst rollercoaster ride imaginable. At that point, it’s seriously a long way down…
The crew of the DHL jet still had most of their jet there, but without the vertical stabiliser it was uncontrollable. They suffered trying to fly the jet for a further four more minutes before it inevitably went down.
Tragic :(
It was much more terrifying from the DHL’s view just after they collided.
1:23 those gasps and groans were terrifying. I can't imagine how that must've felt. They couldn't even make sense of what was happening and you can hear a loud noise from the air rushing past the fuselage
I'm guessing they were running out of oxygen.
The bye bye is chilling
hi there!
@@GerflexOFFICIAL hi
also by chilling I meant scary
@@supsnail yeah it was to a different plane tho
@@supsnailsupsnail is that you!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!??
ATC management never apologized for this horrible error of their staff
I saw a documentary about this accident. The flight controllers usually got a stressful job managing 10+ planes in the air, but in this case some of their equipment was out due to maintenance work, and the controller only had 3 flights to handle. Well he managed to have 2 out of 3 collide with each other, what a lousy performance 😕
@@Mr._Tony Well he was murdered a few years later...
Legally his company didn't allow him to , they didn't want to take Blame for it
@@Conneck_Mhike : That they never too responsibility for their mistake, made one of the victims, a man who had lost his wife and two children, kill the responsible flight controller - an apology from the company or the responsible flight controller would have been better
Not true, they eventually admitted their fault and paid off the families of the victims.
Always follow TCAS RA. They are preventing ATC screwups.
1:02
The two flights collided at 23:35:32 local time (21:35:32 UTC) at an altitude of 10,630 meters (34,890 feet).
The vertical tail of Flight 611 passed through the lower left side of the fuselage of Flight 2937.
The Tu-154 passenger plane immediately exploded and disintegrated into two pieces, killing all personnel.
Those gasps and groans are chilling. Were they from the pilots in the DHL plane?
These gasps and groans were from the tupolev.
@@GeNoAviation thanks. Utterly terrible. I assume they were pretty much in uncontrollable free fall at that stage.
thats why you always trust tcas
yes
Bro why does pilot are so stupid
At the time it was not the rule. Only after this accident it became mandatory worldwide to follow TCAS over ATC.
it is always a very easy task to say he should have done this and that in hindsight lol
@@cripplehawkTrue! There were different trainings in terms of crash avoidance between Europe and Russia.
this is so tragic
Indeed
i swear i can hear peter nielsen faintly say „BTC2937?“ at 23:35:56, maybe just me tho
This is not Nielsen, its the crew of the Tupolev.
@@GeNoAviation no listen, its very faint, its before the crew starts gasping, i swear i can hear it.
if it actually is peter, its kinda chilling that the crew of the tupolev might have heard him but were unable to respond.
@@retr0viberI cant hear it but I will crosscheck it.
@@retr0viber possibly during the collision the recorder cut out for a split second causing it to be delayed
0:49 is DILMUN 600, not sure why they said 600. Maybe it would be shorter?
I dont know..
Why didn't the DHL pilots also hear the ATC? That way they could've reversed their descent.
They relied on the TCAS instructions instead of the ones from the ATC.
@@GeNoAviationBut if they heard that ATC was telling the other plane to also descend...? Would have made sense to start climbing or at least point out what their TCAS was saying.
@@townc2824They did try to point out their TCAS instruction. They can be heard saying “Zurich 600 TCAS descent” just before the collision, but Nielsen couldn’t hear them because he was focused on another flight on a different radar. Also, the DHL crew had no way of knowing the other crew wouldn’t follow TCAS.
TACS is the more reliable system in this kind of scenario since it is the two planes communicating directly to create a resolution advisory instead of going through an intermediary (ATC). After this incident, it has become standardized to tell ATC you have a TCAS RA (implying you have followed it) instead of following ATC's command.
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What / who is this?
The dhl plane didnt see the tu 154
what does btc stand for?
BTC = Bravo Tango Charlie = ICAO Code of Bashkirian Airlines
@@GeNoAviation Why did they not use the phonetic callsign for BTC which is BASHKIRIAN?
@@Games-ei1qcIt’s shorter and formal to say Bravo Tango Charlie.
@@suspense_comix3237 I'd argue that it's longer and harder to say (3 words vs 1) than the actual phonetic callsign. I've also heard other airlines still use letters even when they have an actual callsign.
BTC 2937 had the old livery
No it already had the new one
@@GeNoAviation The accident aircraft had the original livery. The crash site wreckage shows that the tail fin was mostly white with just the logo instead of the mostly blue tail fin used here.
@@AzuwareIncorrect, GeNo is correct. Cope
baskirian airlines flight 2937 and dhl airline flight 611 have crash boom 💥
Cause: Atc error and just cilmb
"Shit! , F#ck me" Heartbreaking╯︿╰
wait the pilots just said bye bye why didnt they said they had crashed
No. It was another pilot talking on the ATC frequency. It was the pilot of the Aerolloyd plane.
ah ok
Did the ATC guy not see the fact that they were on a direct collision course way before they actually collided? He instead tells the Russian plane to descend moments before the collision occurred. What a joke.
He was busy managing multiple aircraft. He told one plane to descend and the other to ascend. Their TCAS was saying the opposite. One followed ATC, one followed TCAS, so they both descended.
@@xxEzraBxxx that’s not what happened, he only told the Russian flight to descend, he didn’t give instructions to the British flight
@@jamaljohnson4382 still unfortunate either way
So the ATC guy really told the Russian plane to descend when he knows that TCAS exists and that the British plane was most certainly getting directions from it which could either be to ascend or descend, so he just gambled and told the Russian flight to descend knowing that the TCAS could be telling the British flight to descend as well, it would have been far better if he didn’t say anything, he directly caused them to crash by telling the Russian flight to descend, did he not realize that the British flight could be getting directions from the TCAS to descend thereby causing them to be on a direct collision course? What an idiot.
Which British plane?
I think he means the britidh pilots in the DHL@@klamin_original
Did you just call the ATC an idiot? Are you aware that he was murdered in front of his family? Or that he had watch out 2 separate airspaces in 2 separate screens without any equipment,?
@@Vicky87_o.O_ doesn’t matter that he was murdered it was primarily his fault that the planes crashed
@@jamaljohnson4382 no, not really, nobody was at fault and unironically it was the system at the time. Russian pilots were trained to follow ATC first and foremost, doesn't matter if it's the TCAS that's blaring at them, whilst Western pilots followed TCAS above all else.
You really can't blame anyone, "doesn't matter that he was murdered" is a completely heartless statement especially when you realize he was murdered literally right in front of his family in his own apartment. Even if he was at fault, absolutely nobody should say something like that.