The Pied Piper of Beethoven..........not a bad epitaph at all! But to answer Bernstein's implied question, speaking for myself, it greatly enhanced the musical performance for me to watch Messr. Bernstein seemingly have the time of his life in front of a group of dedicated, expert musicians working together to achieve, more often than not, exceptional and noteworthy results, on a regular basis. I could listen to Bernstein's orchestras, and even more enthusiastically, to him describing anything as mundane as the NYC telephone directory. Hats off, Mr. Bernstein! I will never forget you.....
He was both. Some of his talk wasn't that educational but he was always the center of attention . Could come off as a pontificate and a bit pompous, but he was Leonard Bernstein and the rest were not.
All waltzes should be written and conducted in six-eight time; their 'gestalt' is compound duple time but forced to fit unnaturally into simple triple time.
The major orchestras always knew the music much better than the guest conductor, and they patiently listen to him educate them for most of the rehearsal. When the conductor is a charlatan or just mediocre, the orchestra picks up the slack. They can also make a conductors life a living hell during a concert of they dont like him. Members of the CSO told me when they have a problem they decide whwt they will do . "The conductor was clueless so we played the Monteux version." They truly dont need the conductor but he gives the audience something to look at while they listen. Bernstein was a master at that. I dont agree that the end of every measure is baton " up" . Doesnt always work out as easily as the Blue danube.
You are either very brave or fairly arrogant to contradict the Rebbe. And I assume I've not heard of you or your musical gifts simply because you refuse to conduct any orchestra that would have you as a member...
@JPsnr You may be right on all counts. There are hundreds or thousands of orchestra members that you have never heard of. People know the conductor, maybe the concert master . The rest are nameless musicians. Who was I contradicting again? I dont conduct. Just see many in action. There are 700+ orchestras in the US. There are not 700 great conductors. A great PR machine can fool the general public and the board of directors, but not the players. They get used to staying quiet to keep their jobs.
Intersting that Bernstein mentioned first Mendelssohn ,both Jewish. Jews contributed so much. Also interesting to note there was no woman player in the orchestra.
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Unfortunately, however wonderful a musician Bernstein was, he conducted with an inverse ictus! It is a very poor model for aspiring conductors and a poor inspiration for experienced conductors.
you dont have any idea what you're talkin about right? as a musician is really easy to follow him, his tempo and his intentions because he is reeeeeeally epresive and really easy to grasp what he wants to articulate for the music
@@natanaelmedina2189 I'm not commenting about his musicianship and communication, all of which is unparalleled. By far his greatest contribution to music is in education as seen in his master classes, especially his "Unanswered Question" series. All I'm suggesting is that it is too easy to lose sight when studying his conducting that they should at least initially follow strict conducting technique. Bernstein pioneered full body expression to communicate to the orchestra; he got to break the rules because he had first mastered the rules. BTW, when he conducted Beethoven in his early career, you heard Beethoven. In his late recordings, you heard Bernstein!
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Want to continue Leonard Bernstein's masterclass? You can watch part 2 here: ruclips.net/video/VMKKmvEw8LU/видео.html
This should be required viewing for every conductor.
Nice of Lenny to give a lecture on conducting technique so he can break all the rules in practice
The Pied Piper of Beethoven..........not a bad epitaph at all! But to answer Bernstein's implied question, speaking for myself, it greatly enhanced the musical performance for me to watch Messr. Bernstein seemingly have the time of his life in front of a group of dedicated, expert musicians working together to achieve, more often than not, exceptional and noteworthy results, on a regular basis. I could listen to Bernstein's orchestras, and even more enthusiastically, to him describing anything as mundane as the NYC telephone directory. Hats off, Mr. Bernstein! I will never forget you.....
LB was not a talker he was an educator Big difference Thank you Leonard
He was both. Some of his talk wasn't that educational but he was always the center of attention . Could come off as a pontificate and a bit pompous, but he was Leonard Bernstein and the rest were not.
here after watching tár 😊
What an absolute genius you can tell he is just loving and is in complete infatuation with this subject
keep these up please! they are rare finds
I wonder if Cooper watched this clip. Very interesting and informative on his style
Thank you for uploading these!!!!
Thank you so much for sharing!
I really appreciate uploading this video.
These are available on DVD. Very good programs. By the way, Lenny studied with Reiner.
Beautiful moments
Thank you for putting this up
All waltzes should be written and conducted in six-eight time; their 'gestalt' is compound duple time but forced to fit unnaturally into simple triple time.
The major orchestras always knew the music much better than the guest conductor, and they patiently listen to him educate them for most of the rehearsal. When the conductor is a charlatan or just mediocre, the orchestra picks up the slack. They can also make a conductors life a living hell during a concert of they dont like him. Members of the CSO told me when they have a problem they decide whwt they will do . "The conductor was clueless so we played the Monteux version." They truly dont need the conductor but he gives the audience something to look at while they listen. Bernstein was a master at that. I dont agree that the end of every measure is baton " up" . Doesnt always work out as easily as the Blue danube.
You are either very brave or fairly arrogant to contradict the Rebbe.
And I assume I've not heard of you or your musical gifts simply because you refuse to conduct any orchestra that would have you as a member...
@JPsnr You may be right on all counts. There are hundreds or thousands of orchestra members that you have never heard of. People know the conductor, maybe the concert master . The rest are nameless musicians. Who was I contradicting again? I dont conduct. Just see many in action. There are 700+ orchestras in the US. There are not 700 great conductors. A great PR machine can fool the general public and the board of directors, but not the players. They get used to staying quiet to keep their jobs.
"Let's say... The Blue Danube Waltz. You all know how it goes."
"No I don't." ... "Yes, I do."
Oh, come on! It's so unfair calling Mandelsohn the first conductor when we all know Lully died because of conducting!😅
Oh, so you saw _Tàr_ too!
back when conducting was a life threatening extreme sport 🤣
True. Maybe Mendelssohn was the first to use a baton instead of a stick. Lully maybe responsible for the switch. What a bizarre way to die.
Who is MAndesohn anyhow? In College we learned of both Felix and Fanny Medelssohn or Mendelssohn-Bartoldy in Felix’s case! Spelling matters! Lol
@rayotani25 spell check has a very limited knowledge of great music. Probably a typo or fat thumbs on a phone.
Intersting that Bernstein mentioned first Mendelssohn ,both Jewish.
Jews contributed so much.
Also interesting to note there was no woman player in the orchestra.
The bad old days.
Sairam
Prof. Giuseppe Savazzi
head of the WORLDWIDE CIA SAIRAM secret services in India member of Rotary Club of New York District 7230 blessing to all of you from India 🇮🇳
Music Director and Founder of the Sathya Sai Universal Symphony Orchestra in Putthaparty
Founder and music Director of the Rotary Youth International Orchestra with Lufthansa Sponsor since 1990. in šāʾ Allāh إِنْ شَاءَ ٱللَّٰهُ Sairam 🙏🇮🇳❤️🙏
Unfortunately, however wonderful a musician Bernstein was, he conducted with an inverse ictus! It is a very poor model for aspiring conductors and a poor inspiration for experienced conductors.
you dont have any idea what you're talkin about right? as a musician is really easy to follow him, his tempo and his intentions because he is reeeeeeally epresive and really easy to grasp what he wants to articulate for the music
@@natanaelmedina2189
I'm not commenting about his musicianship and communication, all of which is unparalleled. By far his greatest contribution to music is in education as seen in his master classes, especially his "Unanswered Question" series. All I'm suggesting is that it is too easy to lose sight when studying his conducting that they should at least initially follow strict conducting technique. Bernstein pioneered full body expression to communicate to the orchestra; he got to break the rules because he had first mastered the rules.
BTW, when he conducted Beethoven in his early career, you heard Beethoven. In his late recordings, you heard Bernstein!
Very boring