I put CrossClimate+ on my 2005 Volvo XC70 D5 auto three and a half years ago and has put about 15K miles on them. When I bought a newer XC70 (2008 D5 auto Polestar) a year and a half ago I waited 6 months to put new tires on it because that's how long it took before the CrossClimate2 were available here in the UK and I knew they were coming, so I waited. When you wait for something good you can never wait too long...:)
That's funny how you plan them. I just walked into a tire shop and told them I want michelin's. They told me the only michelins they had that would fit my vehicle were the CC2's, and they had to get them from the warehouse. So Mine was more of a fluke, But I consider it the luckiest fluke I ever had. It's funny, you must not drive that much? Or do you just drive really short distances. A lot of mine happens to do with the fact that I drive on interstate and really rack up some miles. I also travel a lot. You happy you waited?
I just changed out Pirelli Run Flats on a 2019 Mercedes GLC300. They had just under 12000 miles and I am a very conservative driver, they needed to be replaced said Mr Lincoln.. My previous 2017 ( I was Tboned and it was totaled) It had Continental Runflats that had to be changed out at 11500 miles. That was a shock. The run-flats are $$$$ and junk! Replacing the runflats every 12k cost a fortune and they cost more than my new Michelins. (Costco) I switched out to the Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires and found a donut that fits in my trunk I LOVE these tires, they are so quiet and I feel a big difference in how the car handles. One reason I purchased these was your great reviews. Thank you!!! I am very happy with my new tires.
You know sometimes I still can't believe people watch my videos. When I purchase these tires, I just wanted to throw something out there because they were very curious to me. They were expensive with brand new technology that was unproven and they looked cool. So I just wanted to share my feelings. I never ever ever thought anybody would actually be taking my advice seriously or trusting me. I said this is a bunch of times, but I'm not getting paid for this. And I have no relationship with Michelin. These are actually my very first set of Michelin tires. But everything I say is pretty dang truthful, even if it does seem biased towards the positive side. But that's just because I love these tires. Honestly, I can't tell you how much I appreciate you watching my videos. And then caring enough to jump on here and comment so let me know you watch them. If that makes me feel so special. So just know that I really appreciate it when you tell me these things.
Now on a more straightforward note, HOW ARE YOU WEARING HOT TIRES IN 12,000 MI!!!!! omg!! So I actually come from the truck world because I own a couple of companies. And I will be honest with you, I have ran a set of all terrain tires on a truck for 90,000 mi, or the whole life of the vehicle, without changing them. Those crap TOYO tires that came on the vehicle. Those lasted 47,000 mi. They probably should have been changed at 40, but still that's a hell of a lot more than 12. And it's so strange because you've had continentals and you've had pirelli tires on there and you wore them out at 12,000. Is there something special about where you live? Is it hard to drive? Or are you in the city and there's lots of mountains, so you're always going up and down hills and slamming on breaks? I'm trying to think of a situation to where a girl could run tires flat in 12,000 mi. And unless you're sitting there burning out at the racetrack, I can't think of a reason lol
I know that I was shocked but the Mercedes tech and Discount tire both told me that around 12000 to1700O miles was not unusual. I do very little highway driving ... 90% city streets in Houston (very hot 90 to 100 degree temps in summer). The last set replaced for the Cc2 about 2 weeks ago had some miles left on them and i was told about 4000 left. I got a great deal on Michelins and a 150 rebate so I changed them out yo reg tires and will never go back. I will admit to not rotating them...other than that from what I have read on blogs if you get 20k on them you are getting great mileage. I have always bought Michelins and never had to replace tires before 50k... it has to be the tires. JUNK! AND a set installed runs about 1100 If I look for a deal. I also admit to being very cautious about the safety of tires and will replace a bit earlier when I am getting to the end of tread life. So prob would have gotten 16000 to 17000 on the last set if I pushed to their maximum life. :) so after that long winded explaination... thankyou again for the reviews!
@@mte4506 That's so cool! It's kind of funny, I live in Alabama, but I just bought a house in Houston. Actually Tomball to be specific. I think that might have answered the question. There's some absolutely insane driving in Houston. And you have some super hot streets. I'm not sure if I understand how you wear their mouth and 12,000 mi yet, but it definitely seems a lot more probable with the crazy driving in Houston. And I am actually the opposite of you. I will stretch the tires out and wear them dangerously thin. So to be honest, I'm probably not the best one to model with my other tires. And also I had a truck for the longest time. My most recent truck I drove 80,000 mi or so on a set of BF Goodrich all-terrains, and I don't think I ever rotated them or changed them for the entire life of the truck. I bought it used and basically sold it at 200,000 mi. So I literally used one set of tires for the entire life of that vehicle, for me.. So I'm a little bit on the opposite side. A little bit dangerous. I don't mean to be, but I think I just procrastinate. So that could be another reason I get these extended times. But I only got 47,000 mi on my Toyo tires that came with the vehicle brand new. And I probably should have changed him in 40. Still, that's like four times what you're getting lol
That's good to know, because a lot of times I sound like a Michelin shill lol. I haven't heard anything but good from these tires. Although I have heard in the comments some crazy swedish people who are driving around in the mountains at negative 30 and using their car like snow plows. I still really haven't been able to fathom how these tires work as good as chains or steel studded tires, but they seem to. Nothing logically says they should, but they do.. I'm not sure if you get to experience rain like I do, but you would flip out if you had to experience a sort of storms in things I have driven through. I've hit puddles on the interstate at 80 and I've been going through rainstorms with standing water on the interstate so fast that my windshield is blurry. But these tires have never let me down.
But now, we have 25,000 mi on them. So we can actually look at them a little bit and see if they're letting me down on things like durability or reliability? And nothing so far. It's supposed to be good for 60k mi. But we shall see
That’s exactly what my friend told me. He felt so confident to drive in the snow in NY. On the other hand I was scared to use my pilot all season 4 in NY snow. But so far so good
I like your videos because you provide some good information and you don't try to be funny. Just straight forward, intelligent insight. I am getting the cross climate 2s today for my Tesla and very excited.
Man, that means a lot to me. I tried to just be that friend who loves his tires and wants to run his mouth about them to his friends. You can get technical specifications from anywhere else and you can get some bought and paid for opinion a lot of people hate my style, but it seems like a lot of people also get some value from it. I really appreciate it.
@@jakeofreshly Not yet. I was unhappy to see that you lost 1-2 mpg on those tires. I suppose buying a wheel and winter tire package won’t save me any money over five or six years either. I’ll probably buy them by the end of September before the stock runs out. Thank you.👍🏻
@@jayemark708 yeah not really. But to be honest with you, that's just the truth. I don't think I would have bought them if I wanted to save money. I just wanted to try them, and it was very spur of the moment. I asked for some michelins, and these were the only ones in stock lol
The tread remaining after 25k miles still looks amazing but IIRC, I think they're technically rated for 60,000 miles anyways. I know some tires I've purchased in the past claim to have an amazing thread life but generally never end up living up to their claims -- these look legit!
So spoiler alert. In between you and me, I have a video I just filmed because I crossed the tires over 40,000 mi. And, this is top secret, I finally noticed a little bit of where on them. And all my other videos from 4,000 to 10,000 to 25,000 mi reviews, the tires have maintained their tread depth. And and scientifically speaking, they have been at Lincoln's chin historically. But to give you the inside scoop before I upload it, the tires actually wore down to about Lincoln's mouth in the center and Lincoln's nose a couple inches from the center line. So now you have some insider trading, and you know what they are at 40,000 mi before I upload this video lol Personally, my father and my mother and one of my brothers and my uncle all on michelins and they will never own anything else. And not a single one of them have a tire by Michelin that has under 80,000 mi on it. My uncle gets like 100,000 mi on his tires. So I was expecting good things from the get-go. But honestly I did not think they would be this good even though I've seen it in real life. Because it's new technology and there's big grooves and cuts in these tires so I just naturally assume that they would wear out quicker. You know, less profile touching the ground must mean more wear, correct? That doesn't seem to be the case. These things honestly, feel like they're going to make a hundred thousand miles. But then again I do drive like an old man lol so I would imagine if you were driving aggressively or had a hot foot, or you were driving in a hilly area, or did a lot of around town driving, you would probably get less than me. But I don't see any situation to where you would get less than 60,000 mi on these tires. Unless you were putting them on a Camaro and smoking them out lol. By the way, I'm not getting paid and I'm not sponsored for this. It's just an honest opinion like you were asking a friend how he liked his tires. I started doing these videos because I posted a picture of these tires on my Instagram, and the tire picture got more picture than any other picture I posted before. So I had two conclusions: 1) I'm ugly and I look worse than a set of new tires in the face, or 2) these are some really good looking tires that have a good reputation lol. I'm starting to hope that they are the latter
@@RISCGames You know I just tried to upload it today, I realized my edited it has to move it was blocked out and it only had sound. Tried to upload it three times but it didn't work, so my investigation realized that the video got corrupted. Fun story. I had already deleted the pre-edit videos. So I had to do another day of filming today and another durability and tread depth review
@@jakeofreshly I have 50k on a sienna but that's alot for a sienna. Sienna tires last from 20-36k miles! I just replaced them. I also pit 80k on them in my altima.
They are great if you invite them to what do you manufacturer recommends on the side of your car. But if you invite them harder, they get pretty rough. But that is pretty much every tire.
Hey! I see you reply to kinda everything so thank you. I'm in Wisconsin and I've driven 4x4s my whole life, but I recently got a FWD Equinox because I simply believe a high powered 4x4 isn't necessary in southern Wisconsin. I'm still a bit uneasy, just wondering how your snow experience has been with a FWD SUV and up hills/starting from a stop on an incline? Thanks!
Hey buddy. Yeah I try to reply to everything lol I really enjoy doing this. To be honest with you, I haven't had a passion for anything like this in a long time and making videos something I'm extremely passionate about. So that's similar to me because like I said, I have a Mazda CX-5 front wheel drive with the 2.5 L four-cylinder. So I don't have a four-wheel drive either, as I only need it maybe 2%-5% of the time. In my experience, and I know this is kind of crazy, I feel like these things are better than summer tires with chains on them. I drove them in Mount Rainier in Seattle, a mountain that I have been to several times. And I have been up them all the first times with chains on my tires. But when I drove these, I honestly felt safer driving up the mountains with the standard CrossClimate2 Tires then I did with the chains. I also tested them in lake Tahoe, but it was major slush. And if you know anything about ice, slush can be worse than ice. Once again fantastic. Then last year or early this year I went to North Carolina and it just so happened to be that famous blizzard that rolled through. And I drove through several state parks and up some winding mountain parks, and they were fantastic. It was so cold in North Carolina with so much snow, even parking at my hotel was hard because everything up there is on a hill. And I was wondering if I would park the car at night and wake up in the morning and see it slid down the hill. But I never had a single problem. I don't really know how they do this, but it really does seem like these tires are better than having a pair of snow chains. And I've never come across a snowy condition where my tires spun. If you look at some of my comments on some of my videos, there are people from Finland who are driving in negative 25°, but mountains and doing great. There's other people who are getting stuck because they're going through 3-ft snow and pretending the car is a snow plow and getting stuck on a snowdrift. So I think I speak for everybody when I say these tires are pretty ridiculous in the snow
Literally have people commenting in that they drove around in 5 ft snow and they get their car stuck up on the snow drift because they're playing snow plow lol I don't think these were built for snow plows, but they give you the confidence that they are
@@jakeofreshly These comments were ridiculously informative and really helped calm myself, thank you! Saying it feels like it gives you the confidence to plow is a perfect analogy. I also wasn't familiar with how well chains work so that was a good add. I'll probably keep them in my vehicle just in case so it's good to know they're good enough even with summer tires. Thanks again!
@@frostasaurus2190 haha. You know sometimes I worry because my mind runs at 100 miles an hour and I will give these people page long multi-paragraph answers for very simple questions. I'm not very good at being succinct lol But yeah, people put these tires on it seems like and they get so much confidence they think their car turns into a snow plow. Then they're calling the record because the front of their car is 4 ft off the ground at a 25° angle because they ran up in a big snow drift and they're stuck on top of it like a teeter-totter lol
@@frostasaurus2190 And I hope I'm not exaggerating or anything. But sincerely, when I had my old Toyo Tires driving up Mount Rainier I put chains on them and they felt like crap. I had to drive slow, I was worried they were going to tear off, and I was slipping everywhere. I was not confident with them at all. But then when I was in North Carolina driving through that famous blizzard they had earlier this year, I didn't even notice the snow. Half of the state parks were shut down, so I couldn't go in them. But between you and me I went in a few of them anyway lol drove around the gate lol and I never even considered having chains. And I have a two-wheel drive vehicle lol Mazda soccer mom crossover lol front wheel drive to boot
I watched your 1st (excellent) review. I'm looking @ these tires for my 2015 Camry XSE at 95,000 miles. As I usually give my cars to my brother who lives in Montreal, I think this would be a good fit for him. Probably don't need them in Memphis but won't be keeping the car very long here so why not chose these over the local (3) all season tires.
Man… So I actually did a video on it. I literally charter it out like… To the T. Check it out! I think I have it linked in the comments, if I am not mistaken. But man, I lost at least 2 mph overall
This is actually funny. I did a video on the noise level of these tires, and it's in my playlist. Let me go ahead and just copy a link down below for you ruclips.net/video/Xu1KohojtxI/видео.html That should be the link to the noise video. So I would say, on a very miniscule level, I noticed a little bit more road noise. But I think that's in line with the tires being more aggressive. I do not think it's bad enough to withdraw consideration for these tires, as it's really not bad at all. So if I had to be honest, I would say it's a little bit more noise. But check that video out and maybe it will help
So you probably seen a couple of my videos and I'm always yapping and yapping about how much I love the safety and traction in the rain and downpours and everything. But honestly, how do you like them for the drive, everything else considered? Me, they are pretty freaking amazing to drive with. I've had some people tell me they ride rougher, but I don't notice it. I might notice a little bit of noise here and they are, but that's no issue. I had to break the decibel reader out on one of them and it didn't really sway my opinion one way or the other. So how do you think of them as far as comfort and ride?
@@jakeofreshly This is gonna sound weird, but my wife won't let me drive her SUV, so I'm not really sure about any of the attributes. I drove her vehicle once when the tires were about a week old and they felt great, but she won't let me put them through their paces. My wife doesn't know the first thing about tires so she is more about other people saying how great the tires are. What I'm not sure about is what PSI to fill them to. With typical 44psi rated car tires, you put them at around 32psi, so do I use the same principal and drop the CC2s about 12psi from the rating on the sidewall, which I think is like 52psi or just put them at 32psi?
@@dbfcrell8300 okay so this is actually something great that I learned. For my whole entire life, I think I was doing it wrong I would always feel the tire up as high as it said on the tire. So if the tire said max PSI 44, I would put them on 44 psi. Back when I had heavy truck tires on a F-350 diesel, I had to use heavy truck tires that were 85 PSI and I would put them up on 85 But then I learned that if you look on the inside of the door on the door panel, you will see a little sheet that tells you the weight and the axle weight and how heavy the car is and how much the tires should be. On that, it's going to tell you the recommended and preferred PSI of the tires. And that's what you use. The reason you use that is because all vehicles have different weights. You can take the same set of tires I have and pop them off my Mazda CX-5, and then put them on a Honda CRV or a Hyundai Santa Fe or a Hyundai palisade. So they are totally different weights and with the vehicles being heavier or lighter or having a different weight distribution, they have different PSIs. So what you want to do is follow the inside of the door panel. And follow that as closely as possible. For example, my Mazda might be 4,000 lb or so. And it recommends I put the tires at 32 PSI. If I were to take them at 32 PSI and put them on, for example, a Hyundai palisade that is about 5,500 lb, the tires would squish flatter and it would change the contact patch, or the area that touches the road.
@@dbfcrell8300 or if I put the tires on a lighter vehicle like a Honda CRV or car, and they were 32 PSI, the neighbor would be over inflated and they would be having a rounder contact patch with the street. So you can think about it if you take the same tire and put it on a heavier vehicle, it will flatten out and drive on the sidewall. But if you put it on a light vehicle, they will be over inflated and rounded and only drive on the center of the tire. So what you want to do is look on the inside door or door panel of your car, and see what they tell you to do. And that is what you follow I did the same thing as you, and I was doing it wrong. For example, my tire set 44 PSI maximum so I would put them up to the maximum. However, when you put them on a little light vehicle like a crossover SUV like my Mazda, they are over inflated and you end up wearing out the center of the tire rather than wearing them out evenly. So just go with the recommendations from the factory on the inside of the door panel, and you should have the best ride with the best mixture of comfort and fuel efficiency possible.
@@dbfcrell8300 So that's what you want to do. The auto manufacturer of your vehicle already figured out the weight and the weight distribution for the vehicle. And they have a recommended pressure that they put on the inside of the door panel. Just follow that, and you will be doing with the factory tells you. All cars have a different recommendation and preference, but it's easy to find on the inside of the door And brother, there's nothing weird about your wife not letting you touch her stuff. I think they all do that. Mine won't let me touch the majority of her stuff, or her closet, or her car, or pretty much anything she has. Specifically her cell phone lol So I don't think that's really strange at all. That's just usual things you have to do with when you have a woman you love lol
Jake, you know that to keep your tires the best is to do your air pressure correctly monthly. Then your rotation’s and alignment. Alignment’s I do twice or three times a year.
I didn't know that right off the bat, but I definitely had a good feeling for it. Respectfully, I have held some teachings from my father for a long time that I'm not exactly sure or true. For example, the rotation of my tires I've always done because my dad taught me how to do it. And I've said to learn that technology and techniques have changed since the 1970s, and there's better ways to do things. And one of those things that I had to learn the hard way was tire pressure. For my whole entire life, I pumped tires up as high as they said on the sidewall of the tire. But then I realized that, through my interactions and research on tires, there's a certain pressure the car or vehicle wants you to have them at based off the weight and the balance of the vehicle and the tire as well. So since then, I've been keeping them as recommended on the side panel of the door I know this sounds like it's simple, and it's something everyvidy should do, but my dad taught me to air the tires on the truck all the way up for a better ride and for better gas mileage. Now researching it a little bit more and seeing what the correct techniques are, I have since ditched that. And I've had a lot of hard times trying to ditch old habits that my father taught me because he grew up in a different era.. So 100%. I used to just pump the tires up as high as I could go but now I'm very cognizant of tire pressure and whatnot. In between you and me, I had a 2006 Ford sport Trac and I put all terrain tires on it. I rode the tires for 90,000 mi and never rotated them one time. So I've had to almost totally learn maintenance, because I was used to just fixing broken down stuff. So I've definitely had a lot of evolution in my techniques and my adult life, having to unlearn a lot of old habits that were taught to be tried and tested true
@@jakeofreshly as long as you are learning that is the important thing. Paying $300 a tire you want to keep them as long as possible. Myself I have all my tires warrantied plus I purchased the alignment package with rotation and balancing at the same time so if something happens I am covered.
@@ronaldbrimmer3141 dude I can't tell you how bad I messed up on the warranty. I had some people tell me that I haven't registered my tires for the warranty, and I have absolutely no clue about that. The place I went to, tire engineers, did not give me any paperwork or let me know anything about warranty. So I'm riding on them with nothing. They didn't even offer any of that to me, so I'm having to treat them like baby.
@@ronaldbrimmer3141 yeah I'm having to learn lol. But older people know, it was a different time back then. Everything was dirt roads. There was no interstate. Vehicles were different. 100,000 mi on a vehicle meant a new engine. So it was a totally different time back then. And my dad is one of those fathers that thinks if their son cannot change a tire, then they have failed as a father. So he made sure we knew step by step how to do everything the way you learned how to. I would never say he's wrong, especially after the time he grew up in. But I've definitely had to adapt. Because I think running these tires at 50 psi would probably bulge them and they would wear the center line out, defeating the purpose. So I'm trying to learn lol
@@jakeofreshly there is some leeway that you can experiment with for example on my SUV there is three different diameter sizes of tires that come on that vehicle depending on trim level the tire pressure is basically the same for all of them at 33 psi that is extremely biased for comfort and after a few thousand miles on my stock tires I can see where it was wearing them I experimented and settled with anywhere from 36 to 38 all around to 38 in the front and 40 in the back for road trips and never had a problem. If you wanted to be a little extreme you could use chalk on your tires and take a short drive and see how it’s wearing. You can watch some videos for a better Description
Basically, they only rotate them front to back, back to front. But the dealership said they have rotating all tires, no matter what, front to back and back to front for the past 10 to 20 years. Some of the reasons were liability reasons. Some of the reasons were designed reasons. But basically, if you go and get your tires rotated they're going to go back to front and front to back every time.
So they are fantastic in the snow. And I'm not the only one who says that. I've had people in Norway talk about driving these and negative 20° through snowdrifts, and I've also had people in Minnesota and Wisconsin justified to the same thing. But I've driven them in lake Tahoe in the slush. I've driven them in North Carolina during a blizzard. They have driven them in seattle on Mt Rainer at all times, they were fantastic. To be honest with you, I think these tires are better in snow than my summer tires were with chains on them. Which isn't so surprising but is to somebody from the Sunbelt. I did not buy a dedicated snow tire because I live in the Sun belt and it doesn't snow much. I really bought these for grip, traction, and the interoperability of being able to drive these in the snow or in the sun or in the rain or in the shine.. To me, these are the best tires on the planet because I've driven them through some extreme wet weather conditions and I love them to death. So if you have to drive through rain or floods, these are the tires to go to.
Mine is a 2019 and I have 88k miles on it so far. I put 45k miles in the first year though. Has been a phenomenal car to say the least. Does she have the “high pitch squeal/screech “ when she goes over 85mph?
I also wanted to say I drive a curvy road to and from work also I drive at night by myself so I'm really looking for a reliable tires also it rains allot. Do you recommend these tires
The plug? What do you mean? I like patches over plugs in general. but honestly, they have changed so much from when I was little . I wouldnt’ trust a plug for 50 miles when I was younger. Now… honestly, they are pretty damn good.
It’s strange, because I’ve owned the Michelin Defenders, and those are rated for like 80k miles. But I can tell you they weren’t. I had them only 2 years before I sold the car, and they were half gone with 20k. These Cross Climate 2’s like like a way better tire all around. Just ordered some for my 16 Lexus RX
When you get a chance, let me know how they are. Just jumping any one of these videos and let me know what you think about them. I know you won't be able to figure out the durability right away, but I'd love to get your initial perspective
@@jakeofreshly Hey Brother, got my Cross Climate 2’s installed Saturday!! Wow man, I seriously could tell a huge difference from the moment I was pulling out of the Costco parking lot, and especially when getting on the interstate! So much smoother, and a night and day difference on how my 16’ Lexus RX handles. I have factory 20” rims for reference too. Granted, when I bought the RX 2 years ago, it came with some new cheap set of no-name tires called “Diante”? I can’t remember the name, but they sucked! Lol! But I’ve had nice tires on previous rigs, and these Cross Climate’s really stand out! They even improved the looks of my ride. Can’t thank you enough for the recommendation Bro, you are awesome! Keep doing what you are doing. Oh, and I don’t know if you are a Costco member, but mine were installed for $905 out the door. Everywhere else was wanting $1325. Plus Costco fills your tires with nitrogen, which is better for the life of your tire👍
@@damon323 yeah that's the saddest thing. I actually have a Costco membership and I've had countless people tell me to get to make Costco. I paid $1,300 plus when I bought these tires, and I got no special treatment. So I'll definitely remember that going into the future. I'm not sure if I mentioned, but I just bought them on a whim. I walked into a tire shop and said I wanted Michelin tires and these were the only ones that would fit my rims. So that's why I ended up getting these. So it's sort of accidental why I jumped into this tire, but they are life-changing.
@@jakeofreshly I've been in that situation too Bro, having to get tires on the fly. Glad it was for these cross climates. My last time I had to get Toyo Pro 4's and they lasted less than 20k miles. Lol! Anyway, keep doing what you are doing on making your channel grow. You got the potential to explode. Thanks again for putting out the awesome reviews!
One question: what tire pressure do you use to inflate these guy? PS @ Costco the V-rated version of these is $225 each (with $150 off if you purchase a set of 4--with fees and installation it comes out to about $920 (pre-tax) for a set.
The correct one as your car tells you to for any tyre you fit on it, only amending slightly if you have a full heavy load to what your car tells you to.
So this is funny. I know I am late, but I did a video on this before. Don’t follow the tire. Follow the label on the inside driver’s door panel. They calculate the right PSI, based on vehicle weight, load distribution, and a lot of other factors. So follow what is on the inside of the door panel. For example, you can have the same tire and put it on a sedan or a coupe. You would want to inflate the tires differently, because the weight is different for the cars.
You know the more and more people talk about how much I cost, the more I feel like I got ripped off lol. But then again I walked in and said "I want a pair of Michelin tires" they didn't have any available for my 19-in rims on my Mazda. So they had two "Go get them from the warehouse" I'm sure they charge me premium prices because I told them to go ahead. I really wasn't worried about cost, I just wanted to try michelins. But I ended up with you only size michelins they had for my vehicle, which was the CC2's
I just got 4 Cross Climate 2 put on my 2014 Dodge Dart Rally at Tire Discounters today. With the roadside warranty,mount, and alignment it was $1200. (Kentucky,USA)
@@heartlesshorseman4202 You know that makes me feel a little bit better. I paid $1,300 and some change for mine, and I'm in Alabama. I've had people tell me they paid $850 for them and stuff like that, and that really burst my bubble. I'm wondering if I got ripped off, but I really think I got a pretty standard price. Especially after what you just told me. That's about the same that I paid anyway
Great informative video. As someone who wants the best tires for snow, does anyone out there have real world experience with snow?? As it is, I have ZERO traction right now and need to purchase new tires soon for winter. Without out going to actual snow tires, because I can’t afford 2 sets of tires. I have a little Nissan Sentra.
So I don't drive through the snow a lot. But I did go to Mount Rainier all the way up to the top and Washington State. I've been to lake Tahoe in the ice and slush. And then I also went through a blizzard in North Carolina earlier this year and I never used chains one time. Personally, these tires have better grip then when I went to Mount Rainier with a Chevy trailblazer with chains. That sounds ridiculous, but I didn't slip it all and I was 20,000 ft up in the air essentially 12 ft snow except for the plowed lanes
@@jakeofreshly thank you SO MUCH for your reply! Going to get Crossclimate 2s for my car very soon. I can’t thank you enough, as I have been absolutely dreading winter with my crummy tires. Will contact you after first snow!! Last winter, it took 7 people and 2 hours to get 9 miles home!! Thanks again!
@@hoobie7588 oh for sure! Let me know. I would love to hear what your experiences once you actually get them on there. I try to keep these things as honest as possible, so I hope you are not surprised, but pleasantly satisfied
Hey man sorry for taking so long. I usually respond within seconds or minutes when somebody texts, but I was in Amsterdam and Paris for the past week and a half. So I'm sorry for taking so long. These are on a Mazda CX-5 grand touring limited edition. It is the one with the front wheel drive, four cylinder 2.5 L engine. 19 in rims. And just to boot, it's dark blue
ruclips.net/video/XAGy8rk_ep4/видео.html So I actually did a whole problem video and posted it a couple months back. So I'm going to go ahead and post a link above it. But yeah, you're actually safe and assuming that there's not too many of them. There's a fuel efficiency one, as these tires use a mile or a mile and a half per gallon extra fuel. I did a video on that separately as well There's a little bit of road noise. Not necessarily vibration, but road noise. If you go through the playlist call me you should be able to see all the cons that I have. I have a dozen videos on there or so, so it should not be too hard to find
ruclips.net/p/PLA4y7tZQ07Mz4tPZIGSZ9Z30iFIwG9Kzt Here is the playlist link. But the main things were fuel efficiency, noise, and a couple other things. You can check the problems video if you want a little bit more. Thank you for watching again
I wanted buy the Cc2 but no where I could find the 245/40 18 for my c450. I recommended Cc2 to my friend for his Kia though and he has those on his cars now. I ended up buying pilot all season 4 since it was available to buy. Pretty amazing tires though. 😁
So the way you could not get these tires is the same way I accidentally fell into them. My parents and a couple of my siblings and some other of my friends were driving michelins. And they could not stop talking about them and praising them. So after listening to Michelin nuts for the past 3 years, I decided to get a pair. I had no clue which ones. So I went to the tire shop and asked for a set. Because I have 19 in rims, there was only one pair of Michelin tires available for me. And that happened to be the cross climate twos. So I had no plan on getting these specific tires at all in the beginning. I just wanted a set of Michelin tires to fit in with my fan boys and fan girls. Well it turns out, I sat down and looked them up for a minute and told them to put a set on my tire. And the rest is history. So it really was just sort of luck that I got these in the beginning. But I'm starting to realize, I think it was fate.
I've heard people bring up the pilot tires a lot, and to be honest with you I really have not had that many bad tires. And I've used a lot of medium to par tire brands. So this is my first time ever using a primo tire. And I must say, I don't know if there's any comparison to it. But I have heard a lot of good stuff about the pilot all seasons
@@jakeofreshly I did a lot of research before finalizing on either cc2 or pilot all season 4. What I wanted was pilot all season 4 but I actually needed was cc2. Why cc2? There are two important factors 1. Snow 2. Rain 😀. We get horrible snow storms here in NY. I find it very difficult to drive in snow with my Pirellis. Also couple of times I experienced hydroplaning and It scared the crap out of me. The cc2 has better performance in snow and also it does avoid hydroplaning. On the other hand pilot all season 4 are much grippier. I’m not that confident to drive that in the snow but it performed well so far. The only thing I’m lacking is the steering response/feedback.
@@jakeofreshly only after buying the all season 4 I came to know that Amazon sells tyre too. They had the cc2 available to purchase for my car. My problem was finding the rear tyre 245 40 18 but the front tyre 225 45 18 were available everywhere. Did you register your tyre at Michelin’s website ?. 3 years roadside assistance, 100 miles of towing, and flat tyre repair comes free if you do.
@@REYMANK7 see it sounds like you actually had a plan when you went to attack this. I really did not lol but I did a lot of research because they had to get them from the warehouse and I had to wait a couple hours. And then the couple hours, I pretty much saw everything I needed to see. I'm a little weird, because I'm an engineer. But I looked at the full depth thread pattern and looked up the tooling that was required to do that. I realized the benefit you would get, and wondered why every single tire was not using this technology. After looking up the tooling and the price of the machines, I realized that it's a huge capital expenditure and it cost a lot of money to run full depth tread pattern tooling equipment. In short and plain English. It's really expensive to make tires like this. And a lot of people would rather have cheap tires. Once I learned that and saw the process, I was sold Ever since I bought them, I've been wondering why every single tire company doesn't do treads like this. I've also wondered why the government has not legally mandated all tires be made like this because they are so advanced over other tires. Not since realized it is because of cost. If everybody made tires this nice and just expensive, nobody could afford them.
I've gone through 2 sets of Nokian WRG4 SUVs prior to getting a set of CC2s and IMO winter traction is superior in the WRG4 SUVs if that is important for your needs. For example with 4/32nds of tread on the WRG4 SUVs I could accelerate in hard packed snow/ice corner and maintain my lane. The same conditions with new CC2s I would over drift into oncoming lane.
Where are you located at, might I ask? I've actually never heard of those tires before, and I don't want to see if I can get a pair of them where I live. Mine are nowhere near from wearing out, as you can tell they look brand new. But it would definitely be interesting to try them in the future. Also how much did they cost?
I also appreciate your criticisms as well. I'll definitely make sure to think about that when I make the next video, if I feel like people are still getting value out of these videos.
@@Noypi54494 okay I was thinking you might have been out of the country or something, just because I've never heard of them. So I guess the fact is that I'm just an idiot lol. Makes more sense, and it's more consistent with how have you myself lol. But damn, so you actually think they're better? That's really really interesting. I got michelins because of the name and the reputation. But I'm sure reputation only gets you so far
This is kind of funny, but I just did a video about that. Check the video out. But the end result is I just followed what's on the inside of the car door panel and it seems to be the best.
Are you correct. But they're definitely on the correct way. It must just look funny on the camera, or maybe it's because I'm using selfie mode. But they're definitely on the correct way
I just looked, and you're looking at the front right tire. So the passenger side front tire. And what I did was I cranked the tires left, turning left. So you're looking at the back side of the front right tire that the tire is turned left so you can get a better view in the sun. That might be why it looks like that
And then the second one on the penny test is the front left tire and it's cranked the same way but you're looking more at the 12:00, top position of the tire
Hey buddy. Thanks for commenting, and I'm sorry for taking so long to get back to you. I've been in Europe traveling, so no driving the last couple weeks. Lol but if you are looking for a good grip and good safety and all our good performance, I don't think you can beat these suckers I have done a couple videos on the things I love and a couple videos on the problems and the things I hate. So if you want to look at those, let me know what you think. Overall a great tire
So I can do that, but I'll have to throw up another video later. I have rotated my tires every 10,000 mi, so they are all wore out the exact same. I actually just rotated those tires to the back so now the fresh tires from the rear are on the front. So I have not slacked on maintenance and made sure to keep them rotated every 7 to 10,000 mi. So they should all look the same i think. Howndid u likenthe CrossClimate+
@@jakeofreshly , they were good in almost all conditions ( surprisingly good on snow for all season tiers ) , but in semi wet conditions in city , after long dry periods ( oil and rain mix on road )passed 15 k km sudden braking was no no. Last 1k miles they were noisy as ....
@@Brodomodo sorry assume you're looking for a new set of tires? Like I said, these have 27,500 mi on them. And they look fantastic. I'm not sure how comfortable they are, but if there was a way to send you close up pictures I definitely would. I think there's a way I can add pictures on RUclips as well, so I might try and find that so you can see
Like I'm showing, I have 27,000 mi of mine and they're not showing anywhere. Somebody told me you can get a tire gauge that measures the depth of the tread for $4, but I think I'll stick with Abraham Lincoln because that's what the troopers use around here. That might be a country thing, but it's a fact. I do drive... Softly though. Im not a speed demon. Never got the car above 95 (only once in three years). Never spun a tire or done amything stupid. OH! and most is interstate driving. I'm sure it would be different if I was going up and down hills in a city with a lot of stop signs. But I'm definitely not.
When I first figured that out and purchased these, I had to do my research. Because I could not figure out why all vehicles did not follow this same pattern. I mean it makes no sense; you have full depth thread and then they can wear down as much as they want without affecting the tread pattern? Why would everybody not do that? Then I looked up the actual processed and tools required for making these tires. And I realized that full depth tread pattern requires more precise instrumentation that breaks a lot more. I thought it could have been preference. I thought it could have been designed. I thought there had to be any reason people did not do this on every tire Turns out, it's just money. The tools and equipment is more expensive to purchase and operate when you are making tires like this. Which shocked me, even though it shouldn't have. I thought they must be some definitive reason why everybody doesn't do this and have full depth thread pattern. At the end of the day, it's just funny. People make cheap tires for cheap people. Then the world keeps spinning.
@@jakeofreshly yeah I understand cheap tires have there place but they really are not even that cheap from what I have seen, you might save $75 to $100 tops going with a no name brand. I had a older Honda Accord before my Toyota and I would buy sumitomo tires and they where great for the money. I actually looked what they had to offer before I went with the Michelins but again they really where not that much cheaper than the cross climates
@@thetechlibrarian 100%. The price really doesn't matter that much. And, for example, if you're buying these for somebody you love like your daughter or son or a wife or husband, then the $100 liter doesn't mean anything. Like, I don't think anybody buys these tires because they're looking for a discount. I think they buy them when they're looking for the best of the best. And when I started making these videos call me it was new technology. But I'm pretty sure they're tried and true and testing themselves everyday
Hahahah you would think. But they will pull you over down in Alabama, and if they can’t find a problem with you, then they will start measuring your tread depth. Lol. Man, it happens in those small towns, I promise.
@@awdfan7375 for sure. However, I was making this review I just wanted to give you something that's hard to find on RUclips. If you went and talked to a good friend who would give you an honest opinion who was knowledgeable on the subject, that's what I wanted to give you. You can look up all the technicalities of science and the numbers anywhere. But I just wanted to be that friend who gives you an honest opinion and action knows what he's talking about. It doesn't negate the fact I should probably buy one of these tools. But I've just never had any interest. I'm just a regular guy. Work an office job. I'm an engineer. And I'm brutally honest. I actually already picked up one, so I should be using the new next video if I decide to continue doing these
I will leave that up to the professionals. I'm not exactly trying to measure them, but trying to reference the depth from the first video at 4,000 mi and then the review at 27,000 mi. You're definitely correct, if I was a tire shop or a tire salesman I definitely should have a gauge. But I was just checking to do them because I know the size of a dime is not changed. Plus I've had my tires checked multiple times by state troopers and they use the same coin. I appreciate you watching my video though. I never thought they would get this far, to where all these people would hold me as an expert. But I really appreciate you clicking on the video and commenting. It helps me immensely
Think Jake did a fine anecdotal take on his experience w/ the tire.. def would be cool, but would his measuring his accurate mm by mm treadwear contribute to your judgement of the tire? I would be hard pressed to admit that, in this case, numbers mean more than personal experience.
@@hi29592 hahah hey man thats what i was going for. I mean you can look up the science at tire engineers or on the engineers youtube page. You can get the specs and thickness and measurements and technical specifications off the website. You can even get the wear patterns and intricacies such as rolling resistance off the website. So you don't need me for all the technical indicators and minute by minute mathematical details. Just trying to give an honest opinion, sort of like a friend. If you were to ask a friend if he liked his tires, then you would expect him to give you an honest and personable opinion. And that's what I'm trying to do. You can look up all the technical things elsewhere. But you can't get an honest friendly opinion from just anyone. So i was trying to fill that gap in knowledge/value. Basically, what questions did i wish were answered when i was researching these. Thanks for understanding @gydo. You rock, and i appreciate your feedback.
@@hi29592 i guess i still earned a thumbs down. Lol. I know i can always get better, and sometimes it takes an irritated person to show it. Gotta give credit where its due. Im just happy ppl are watching. Never thought i would get 50 subs. Much less 250
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I put CrossClimate+ on my 2005 Volvo XC70 D5 auto three and a half years ago and has put about 15K miles on them. When I bought a newer XC70 (2008 D5 auto Polestar) a year and a half ago I waited 6 months to put new tires on it because that's how long it took before the CrossClimate2 were available here in the UK and I knew they were coming, so I waited. When you wait for something good you can never wait too long...:)
That's funny how you plan them. I just walked into a tire shop and told them I want michelin's. They told me the only michelins they had that would fit my vehicle were the CC2's, and they had to get them from the warehouse. So Mine was more of a fluke, But I consider it the luckiest fluke I ever had.
It's funny, you must not drive that much? Or do you just drive really short distances. A lot of mine happens to do with the fact that I drive on interstate and really rack up some miles. I also travel a lot.
You happy you waited?
I just changed out Pirelli Run Flats on a 2019 Mercedes GLC300. They had just under 12000 miles and I am a very conservative driver, they needed to be replaced said Mr Lincoln.. My previous 2017 ( I was Tboned and it was totaled) It had Continental Runflats that had to be changed out at 11500 miles. That was a shock. The run-flats are $$$$ and junk! Replacing the runflats every 12k cost a fortune and they cost more than my new Michelins. (Costco) I switched out to the Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires and found a donut that fits in my trunk I LOVE these tires, they are so quiet and I feel a big difference in how the car handles. One reason I purchased these was your great reviews. Thank you!!! I am very happy with my new tires.
You know sometimes I still can't believe people watch my videos. When I purchase these tires, I just wanted to throw something out there because they were very curious to me. They were expensive with brand new technology that was unproven and they looked cool. So I just wanted to share my feelings. I never ever ever thought anybody would actually be taking my advice seriously or trusting me.
I said this is a bunch of times, but I'm not getting paid for this. And I have no relationship with Michelin. These are actually my very first set of Michelin tires. But everything I say is pretty dang truthful, even if it does seem biased towards the positive side. But that's just because I love these tires.
Honestly, I can't tell you how much I appreciate you watching my videos. And then caring enough to jump on here and comment so let me know you watch them. If that makes me feel so special. So just know that I really appreciate it when you tell me these things.
Now on a more straightforward note, HOW ARE YOU WEARING HOT TIRES IN 12,000 MI!!!!! omg!!
So I actually come from the truck world because I own a couple of companies. And I will be honest with you, I have ran a set of all terrain tires on a truck for 90,000 mi, or the whole life of the vehicle, without changing them.
Those crap TOYO tires that came on the vehicle. Those lasted 47,000 mi. They probably should have been changed at 40, but still that's a hell of a lot more than 12.
And it's so strange because you've had continentals and you've had pirelli tires on there and you wore them out at 12,000.
Is there something special about where you live? Is it hard to drive? Or are you in the city and there's lots of mountains, so you're always going up and down hills and slamming on breaks?
I'm trying to think of a situation to where a girl could run tires flat in 12,000 mi. And unless you're sitting there burning out at the racetrack, I can't think of a reason lol
Especially with a nice car like a 2019 Mercedes... That's the same age as my Mazda.
I know that I was shocked but the Mercedes tech and Discount tire both told me that around 12000 to1700O miles was not unusual. I do very little highway driving ... 90% city streets in Houston (very hot 90 to 100 degree temps in summer). The last set replaced for the Cc2 about 2 weeks ago had some miles left on them and i was told about 4000 left. I got a great deal on Michelins and a 150 rebate so I changed them out yo reg tires and will never go back. I will admit to not rotating them...other than that from what I have read on blogs if you get 20k on them you are getting great mileage. I have always bought Michelins and never had to replace tires before 50k... it has to be the tires. JUNK! AND a set installed runs about 1100 If I look for a deal.
I also admit to being very cautious about the safety of tires and will replace a bit earlier when I am getting to the end of tread life. So prob would have gotten 16000 to 17000 on the last set if I pushed to their maximum life. :) so after that long winded explaination... thankyou again for the reviews!
@@mte4506 That's so cool! It's kind of funny, I live in Alabama, but I just bought a house in Houston. Actually Tomball to be specific.
I think that might have answered the question. There's some absolutely insane driving in Houston. And you have some super hot streets. I'm not sure if I understand how you wear their mouth and 12,000 mi yet, but it definitely seems a lot more probable with the crazy driving in Houston.
And I am actually the opposite of you. I will stretch the tires out and wear them dangerously thin. So to be honest, I'm probably not the best one to model with my other tires. And also I had a truck for the longest time. My most recent truck I drove 80,000 mi or so on a set of BF Goodrich all-terrains, and I don't think I ever rotated them or changed them for the entire life of the truck. I bought it used and basically sold it at 200,000 mi. So I literally used one set of tires for the entire life of that vehicle, for me..
So I'm a little bit on the opposite side. A little bit dangerous. I don't mean to be, but I think I just procrastinate. So that could be another reason I get these extended times.
But I only got 47,000 mi on my Toyo tires that came with the vehicle brand new. And I probably should have changed him in 40. Still, that's like four times what you're getting lol
I’ve had these tires for one winter in western NY where we measure snow in feet and have never felt more confident driving. What a great tire
That's good to know, because a lot of times I sound like a Michelin shill lol.
I haven't heard anything but good from these tires. Although I have heard in the comments some crazy swedish people who are driving around in the mountains at negative 30 and using their car like snow plows.
I still really haven't been able to fathom how these tires work as good as chains or steel studded tires, but they seem to. Nothing logically says they should, but they do..
I'm not sure if you get to experience rain like I do, but you would flip out if you had to experience a sort of storms in things I have driven through. I've hit puddles on the interstate at 80 and I've been going through rainstorms with standing water on the interstate so fast that my windshield is blurry. But these tires have never let me down.
But now, we have 25,000 mi on them. So we can actually look at them a little bit and see if they're letting me down on things like durability or reliability? And nothing so far.
It's supposed to be good for 60k mi. But we shall see
That’s exactly what my friend told me. He felt so confident to drive in the snow in NY. On the other hand I was scared to use my pilot all season 4 in NY snow. But so far so good
@@REYMANK7 how should you pay for those, just out of curiosity
@@jakeofreshly bought the tyres from mavis and they matched the price with the online seller tire rack.
I like your videos because you provide some good information and you don't try to be funny. Just straight forward, intelligent insight. I am getting the cross climate 2s today for my Tesla and very excited.
Man, that means a lot to me. I tried to just be that friend who loves his tires and wants to run his mouth about them to his friends. You can get technical specifications from anywhere else and you can get some bought and paid for opinion a lot of people hate my style, but it seems like a lot of people also get some value from it. I really appreciate it.
Thank you Jake for reviewing these tires. It’s helping me make up my mind to purchase a set.😎🍻🚗
Just curious, have you made a decision yet?
@@jakeofreshly Not yet. I was unhappy to see that you lost 1-2 mpg on those tires. I suppose buying a wheel and winter tire package won’t save me any money over five or six years either.
I’ll probably buy them by the end of September before the stock runs out. Thank you.👍🏻
@@jayemark708 yeah not really. But to be honest with you, that's just the truth. I don't think I would have bought them if I wanted to save money. I just wanted to try them, and it was very spur of the moment. I asked for some michelins, and these were the only ones in stock lol
The tread remaining after 25k miles still looks amazing but IIRC, I think they're technically rated for 60,000 miles anyways. I know some tires I've purchased in the past claim to have an amazing thread life but generally never end up living up to their claims -- these look legit!
So spoiler alert. In between you and me, I have a video I just filmed because I crossed the tires over 40,000 mi. And, this is top secret, I finally noticed a little bit of where on them. And all my other videos from 4,000 to 10,000 to 25,000 mi reviews, the tires have maintained their tread depth. And and scientifically speaking, they have been at Lincoln's chin historically.
But to give you the inside scoop before I upload it, the tires actually wore down to about Lincoln's mouth in the center and Lincoln's nose a couple inches from the center line. So now you have some insider trading, and you know what they are at 40,000 mi before I upload this video lol
Personally, my father and my mother and one of my brothers and my uncle all on michelins and they will never own anything else. And not a single one of them have a tire by Michelin that has under 80,000 mi on it. My uncle gets like 100,000 mi on his tires. So I was expecting good things from the get-go.
But honestly I did not think they would be this good even though I've seen it in real life. Because it's new technology and there's big grooves and cuts in these tires so I just naturally assume that they would wear out quicker. You know, less profile touching the ground must mean more wear, correct?
That doesn't seem to be the case. These things honestly, feel like they're going to make a hundred thousand miles. But then again I do drive like an old man lol so I would imagine if you were driving aggressively or had a hot foot, or you were driving in a hilly area, or did a lot of around town driving, you would probably get less than me. But I don't see any situation to where you would get less than 60,000 mi on these tires. Unless you were putting them on a Camaro and smoking them out lol.
By the way, I'm not getting paid and I'm not sponsored for this. It's just an honest opinion like you were asking a friend how he liked his tires. I started doing these videos because I posted a picture of these tires on my Instagram, and the tire picture got more picture than any other picture I posted before. So I had two conclusions: 1) I'm ugly and I look worse than a set of new tires in the face, or 2) these are some really good looking tires that have a good reputation lol. I'm starting to hope that they are the latter
@@jakeofreshly awesome to hear! Looking forward to your next video update 🤘🏻
@@RISCGames You know I just tried to upload it today, I realized my edited it has to move it was blocked out and it only had sound. Tried to upload it three times but it didn't work, so my investigation realized that the video got corrupted.
Fun story. I had already deleted the pre-edit videos. So I had to do another day of filming today and another durability and tread depth review
@@jakeofreshly I have 50k on a sienna but that's alot for a sienna. Sienna tires last from 20-36k miles! I just replaced them. I also pit 80k on them in my altima.
Dude same here. I bet I. Get 80k+
I agree with others, buy a tread depth gauge and report results that way, in addition to the Abe Lincoln method
Man, I can’t afford one. They haven’t monetized my videos. Hope the opinions help for now.
How soft are they on pot holes, man hole covers, bridge joints, I drive on bad roads in NYC
They are great if you invite them to what do you manufacturer recommends on the side of your car. But if you invite them harder, they get pretty rough. But that is pretty much every tire.
Hey! I see you reply to kinda everything so thank you. I'm in Wisconsin and I've driven 4x4s my whole life, but I recently got a FWD Equinox because I simply believe a high powered 4x4 isn't necessary in southern Wisconsin. I'm still a bit uneasy, just wondering how your snow experience has been with a FWD SUV and up hills/starting from a stop on an incline? Thanks!
Hey buddy. Yeah I try to reply to everything lol I really enjoy doing this. To be honest with you, I haven't had a passion for anything like this in a long time and making videos something I'm extremely passionate about.
So that's similar to me because like I said, I have a Mazda CX-5 front wheel drive with the 2.5 L four-cylinder. So I don't have a four-wheel drive either, as I only need it maybe 2%-5% of the time.
In my experience, and I know this is kind of crazy, I feel like these things are better than summer tires with chains on them. I drove them in Mount Rainier in Seattle, a mountain that I have been to several times. And I have been up them all the first times with chains on my tires. But when I drove these, I honestly felt safer driving up the mountains with the standard CrossClimate2 Tires then I did with the chains. I also tested them in lake Tahoe, but it was major slush. And if you know anything about ice, slush can be worse than ice. Once again fantastic. Then last year or early this year I went to North Carolina and it just so happened to be that famous blizzard that rolled through. And I drove through several state parks and up some winding mountain parks, and they were fantastic.
It was so cold in North Carolina with so much snow, even parking at my hotel was hard because everything up there is on a hill. And I was wondering if I would park the car at night and wake up in the morning and see it slid down the hill. But I never had a single problem.
I don't really know how they do this, but it really does seem like these tires are better than having a pair of snow chains. And I've never come across a snowy condition where my tires spun.
If you look at some of my comments on some of my videos, there are people from Finland who are driving in negative 25°, but mountains and doing great. There's other people who are getting stuck because they're going through 3-ft snow and pretending the car is a snow plow and getting stuck on a snowdrift. So I think I speak for everybody when I say these tires are pretty ridiculous in the snow
Literally have people commenting in that they drove around in 5 ft snow and they get their car stuck up on the snow drift because they're playing snow plow lol I don't think these were built for snow plows, but they give you the confidence that they are
@@jakeofreshly These comments were ridiculously informative and really helped calm myself, thank you! Saying it feels like it gives you the confidence to plow is a perfect analogy. I also wasn't familiar with how well chains work so that was a good add. I'll probably keep them in my vehicle just in case so it's good to know they're good enough even with summer tires. Thanks again!
@@frostasaurus2190 haha. You know sometimes I worry because my mind runs at 100 miles an hour and I will give these people page long multi-paragraph answers for very simple questions. I'm not very good at being succinct lol
But yeah, people put these tires on it seems like and they get so much confidence they think their car turns into a snow plow. Then they're calling the record because the front of their car is 4 ft off the ground at a 25° angle because they ran up in a big snow drift and they're stuck on top of it like a teeter-totter lol
@@frostasaurus2190 And I hope I'm not exaggerating or anything. But sincerely, when I had my old Toyo Tires driving up Mount Rainier I put chains on them and they felt like crap. I had to drive slow, I was worried they were going to tear off, and I was slipping everywhere. I was not confident with them at all. But then when I was in North Carolina driving through that famous blizzard they had earlier this year, I didn't even notice the snow. Half of the state parks were shut down, so I couldn't go in them. But between you and me I went in a few of them anyway lol drove around the gate lol and I never even considered having chains.
And I have a two-wheel drive vehicle lol Mazda soccer mom crossover lol front wheel drive to boot
I watched your 1st (excellent) review. I'm looking @ these tires for my 2015 Camry XSE at 95,000 miles. As I usually give my cars to my brother who lives in Montreal, I think this would be a good fit for him. Probably don't need them in Memphis but won't be keeping the car very long here so why not chose these over the local (3) all season tires.
How is your gas mileage with yours? Our mileage changed 4 mph less.
Man… So I actually did a video on it. I literally charter it out like… To the T. Check it out! I think I have it linked in the comments, if I am not mistaken.
But man, I lost at least 2 mph overall
Any comments on the noise level of these? We have a lot of grooved concrete where we live and some tires are loud.
This is actually funny. I did a video on the noise level of these tires, and it's in my playlist. Let me go ahead and just copy a link down below for you
ruclips.net/video/Xu1KohojtxI/видео.html
That should be the link to the noise video. So I would say, on a very miniscule level, I noticed a little bit more road noise. But I think that's in line with the tires being more aggressive. I do not think it's bad enough to withdraw consideration for these tires, as it's really not bad at all. So if I had to be honest, I would say it's a little bit more noise. But check that video out and maybe it will help
My wife has about 7K on her CrossClimate2s. They are on her 2019 Hyundai Santa Fe. They look and ride great.
So you probably seen a couple of my videos and I'm always yapping and yapping about how much I love the safety and traction in the rain and downpours and everything. But honestly, how do you like them for the drive, everything else considered?
Me, they are pretty freaking amazing to drive with. I've had some people tell me they ride rougher, but I don't notice it. I might notice a little bit of noise here and they are, but that's no issue. I had to break the decibel reader out on one of them and it didn't really sway my opinion one way or the other.
So how do you think of them as far as comfort and ride?
@@jakeofreshly This is gonna sound weird, but my wife won't let me drive her SUV, so I'm not really sure about any of the attributes. I drove her vehicle once when the tires were about a week old and they felt great, but she won't let me put them through their paces. My wife doesn't know the first thing about tires so she is more about other people saying how great the tires are. What I'm not sure about is what PSI to fill them to. With typical 44psi rated car tires, you put them at around 32psi, so do I use the same principal and drop the CC2s about 12psi from the rating on the sidewall, which I think is like 52psi or just put them at 32psi?
@@dbfcrell8300 okay so this is actually something great that I learned. For my whole entire life, I think I was doing it wrong
I would always feel the tire up as high as it said on the tire. So if the tire said max PSI 44, I would put them on 44 psi. Back when I had heavy truck tires on a F-350 diesel, I had to use heavy truck tires that were 85 PSI and I would put them up on 85
But then I learned that if you look on the inside of the door on the door panel, you will see a little sheet that tells you the weight and the axle weight and how heavy the car is and how much the tires should be. On that, it's going to tell you the recommended and preferred PSI of the tires. And that's what you use.
The reason you use that is because all vehicles have different weights. You can take the same set of tires I have and pop them off my Mazda CX-5, and then put them on a Honda CRV or a Hyundai Santa Fe or a Hyundai palisade. So they are totally different weights and with the vehicles being heavier or lighter or having a different weight distribution, they have different PSIs.
So what you want to do is follow the inside of the door panel. And follow that as closely as possible. For example, my Mazda might be 4,000 lb or so. And it recommends I put the tires at 32 PSI. If I were to take them at 32 PSI and put them on, for example, a Hyundai palisade that is about 5,500 lb, the tires would squish flatter and it would change the contact patch, or the area that touches the road.
@@dbfcrell8300 or if I put the tires on a lighter vehicle like a Honda CRV or car, and they were 32 PSI, the neighbor would be over inflated and they would be having a rounder contact patch with the street. So you can think about it if you take the same tire and put it on a heavier vehicle, it will flatten out and drive on the sidewall. But if you put it on a light vehicle, they will be over inflated and rounded and only drive on the center of the tire.
So what you want to do is look on the inside door or door panel of your car, and see what they tell you to do. And that is what you follow
I did the same thing as you, and I was doing it wrong. For example, my tire set 44 PSI maximum so I would put them up to the maximum. However, when you put them on a little light vehicle like a crossover SUV like my Mazda, they are over inflated and you end up wearing out the center of the tire rather than wearing them out evenly.
So just go with the recommendations from the factory on the inside of the door panel, and you should have the best ride with the best mixture of comfort and fuel efficiency possible.
@@dbfcrell8300 So that's what you want to do. The auto manufacturer of your vehicle already figured out the weight and the weight distribution for the vehicle. And they have a recommended pressure that they put on the inside of the door panel. Just follow that, and you will be doing with the factory tells you. All cars have a different recommendation and preference, but it's easy to find on the inside of the door
And brother, there's nothing weird about your wife not letting you touch her stuff. I think they all do that. Mine won't let me touch the majority of her stuff, or her closet, or her car, or pretty much anything she has. Specifically her cell phone lol So I don't think that's really strange at all. That's just usual things you have to do with when you have a woman you love lol
Jake, you know that to keep your tires the best is to do your air pressure correctly monthly. Then your rotation’s and alignment. Alignment’s I do twice or three times a year.
I didn't know that right off the bat, but I definitely had a good feeling for it. Respectfully, I have held some teachings from my father for a long time that I'm not exactly sure or true. For example, the rotation of my tires I've always done because my dad taught me how to do it. And I've said to learn that technology and techniques have changed since the 1970s, and there's better ways to do things.
And one of those things that I had to learn the hard way was tire pressure. For my whole entire life, I pumped tires up as high as they said on the sidewall of the tire. But then I realized that, through my interactions and research on tires, there's a certain pressure the car or vehicle wants you to have them at based off the weight and the balance of the vehicle and the tire as well. So since then, I've been keeping them as recommended on the side panel of the door
I know this sounds like it's simple, and it's something everyvidy should do, but my dad taught me to air the tires on the truck all the way up for a better ride and for better gas mileage.
Now researching it a little bit more and seeing what the correct techniques are, I have since ditched that. And I've had a lot of hard times trying to ditch old habits that my father taught me because he grew up in a different era..
So 100%. I used to just pump the tires up as high as I could go but now I'm very cognizant of tire pressure and whatnot.
In between you and me, I had a 2006 Ford sport Trac and I put all terrain tires on it. I rode the tires for 90,000 mi and never rotated them one time. So I've had to almost totally learn maintenance, because I was used to just fixing broken down stuff. So I've definitely had a lot of evolution in my techniques and my adult life, having to unlearn a lot of old habits that were taught to be tried and tested true
@@jakeofreshly as long as you are learning that is the important thing. Paying $300 a tire you want to keep them as long as possible. Myself I have all my tires warrantied plus I purchased the alignment package with rotation and balancing at the same time so if something happens I am covered.
@@ronaldbrimmer3141 dude I can't tell you how bad I messed up on the warranty. I had some people tell me that I haven't registered my tires for the warranty, and I have absolutely no clue about that. The place I went to, tire engineers, did not give me any paperwork or let me know anything about warranty. So I'm riding on them with nothing. They didn't even offer any of that to me, so I'm having to treat them like baby.
@@ronaldbrimmer3141 yeah I'm having to learn lol. But older people know, it was a different time back then. Everything was dirt roads. There was no interstate. Vehicles were different. 100,000 mi on a vehicle meant a new engine. So it was a totally different time back then. And my dad is one of those fathers that thinks if their son cannot change a tire, then they have failed as a father. So he made sure we knew step by step how to do everything the way you learned how to.
I would never say he's wrong, especially after the time he grew up in. But I've definitely had to adapt. Because I think running these tires at 50 psi would probably bulge them and they would wear the center line out, defeating the purpose. So I'm trying to learn lol
@@jakeofreshly there is some leeway that you can experiment with for example on my SUV there is three different diameter sizes of tires that come on that vehicle depending on trim level the tire pressure is basically the same for all of them at 33 psi that is extremely biased for comfort and after a few thousand miles on my stock tires I can see where it was wearing them I experimented and settled with anywhere from 36 to 38 all around to 38 in the front and 40 in the back for road trips and never had a problem. If you wanted to be a little extreme you could use chalk on your tires and take a short drive and see how it’s wearing. You can watch some videos for a better Description
bc these are directional tires - how did you rotate them? wouldnt it change the direction of the tread?
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Here's a link to a video I did about that exact same subject
Basically, they only rotate them front to back, back to front. But the dealership said they have rotating all tires, no matter what, front to back and back to front for the past 10 to 20 years. Some of the reasons were liability reasons. Some of the reasons were designed reasons. But basically, if you go and get your tires rotated they're going to go back to front and front to back every time.
How are these in snow? Why did you not buy a dedicated tire like BLIZZAK tires?
So they are fantastic in the snow. And I'm not the only one who says that. I've had people in Norway talk about driving these and negative 20° through snowdrifts, and I've also had people in Minnesota and Wisconsin justified to the same thing. But I've driven them in lake Tahoe in the slush. I've driven them in North Carolina during a blizzard. They have driven them in seattle on Mt Rainer at all times, they were fantastic. To be honest with you, I think these tires are better in snow than my summer tires were with chains on them. Which isn't so surprising but is to somebody from the Sunbelt.
I did not buy a dedicated snow tire because I live in the Sun belt and it doesn't snow much. I really bought these for grip, traction, and the interoperability of being able to drive these in the snow or in the sun or in the rain or in the shine..
To me, these are the best tires on the planet because I've driven them through some extreme wet weather conditions and I love them to death. So if you have to drive through rain or floods, these are the tires to go to.
Oh yeah I almost forgot; my daughter drives a 2019 CX5--great car. No repairs, very comfortable. I'm looking @ the new CX50.
Mine is a 2019 and I have 88k miles on it so far. I put 45k miles in the first year though.
Has been a phenomenal car to say the least.
Does she have the “high pitch squeal/screech “ when she goes over 85mph?
@Jake Marchand I don't think so. Doubt she ever drove that quickly but never mentioned odd noises.
I just bought a 23 CX5 Carbon Edition and I'm putting CC2 on it for my trips to Colorado but of course they are just staying on.
Did you end up getting them?
@jakemarchand8627 I like the CX50 but my daughter (1 3 yr old kid)found it too small so I bought the CX90 Preferred Plus Package
I've heard that the plug isn't great that it punctured easy what's your thought on this
I also wanted to say I drive a curvy road to and from work also I drive at night by myself so I'm really looking for a reliable tires also it rains allot. Do you recommend these tires
The plug? What do you mean? I like patches over plugs in general. but honestly, they have changed so much from when I was little . I wouldnt’ trust a plug for 50 miles when I was younger. Now… honestly, they are pretty damn good.
It’s strange, because I’ve owned the Michelin Defenders, and those are rated for like 80k miles. But I can tell you they weren’t. I had them only 2 years before I sold the car, and they were half gone with 20k. These Cross Climate 2’s like like a way better tire all around. Just ordered some for my 16 Lexus RX
When you get a chance, let me know how they are. Just jumping any one of these videos and let me know what you think about them. I know you won't be able to figure out the durability right away, but I'd love to get your initial perspective
@@jakeofreshly Hey Brother, got my Cross Climate 2’s installed Saturday!! Wow man, I seriously could tell a huge difference from the moment I was pulling out of the Costco parking lot, and especially when getting on the interstate! So much smoother, and a night and day difference on how my 16’ Lexus RX handles. I have factory 20” rims for reference too. Granted, when I bought the RX 2 years ago, it came with some new cheap set of no-name tires called “Diante”? I can’t remember the name, but they sucked! Lol! But I’ve had nice tires on previous rigs, and these Cross Climate’s really stand out! They even improved the looks of my ride. Can’t thank you enough for the recommendation Bro, you are awesome! Keep doing what you are doing. Oh, and I don’t know if you are a Costco member, but mine were installed for $905 out the door. Everywhere else was wanting $1325. Plus Costco fills your tires with nitrogen, which is better for the life of your tire👍
@@damon323 yeah that's the saddest thing. I actually have a Costco membership and I've had countless people tell me to get to make Costco. I paid $1,300 plus when I bought these tires, and I got no special treatment. So I'll definitely remember that going into the future.
I'm not sure if I mentioned, but I just bought them on a whim. I walked into a tire shop and said I wanted Michelin tires and these were the only ones that would fit my rims. So that's why I ended up getting these. So it's sort of accidental why I jumped into this tire, but they are life-changing.
@@damon323 brother I'm so happy you're happy. Thank you for sharing that with me. Like I say, people like you are are why I do these videos.
@@jakeofreshly I've been in that situation too Bro, having to get tires on the fly. Glad it was for these cross climates. My last time I had to get Toyo Pro 4's and they lasted less than 20k miles. Lol!
Anyway, keep doing what you are doing on making your channel grow. You got the potential to explode. Thanks again for putting out the awesome reviews!
One question: what tire pressure do you use to inflate these guy? PS @ Costco the V-rated version of these is $225 each (with $150 off if you purchase a set of 4--with fees and installation it comes out to about $920 (pre-tax) for a set.
The correct one as your car tells you to for any tyre you fit on it, only amending slightly if you have a full heavy load to what your car tells you to.
So this is funny. I know I am late, but I did a video on this before. Don’t follow the tire. Follow the label on the inside driver’s door panel. They calculate the right PSI, based on vehicle weight, load distribution, and a lot of other factors. So follow what is on the inside of the door panel.
For example, you can have the same tire and put it on a sedan or a coupe. You would want to inflate the tires differently, because the weight is different for the cars.
The CrossClimate + are 2215/65 R16 @ $525 mounted, the CrossClimate2's are 235/55 R17 and cost $750 mounted. That's £'s converted to $..:)
You know the more and more people talk about how much I cost, the more I feel like I got ripped off lol. But then again I walked in and said "I want a pair of Michelin tires" they didn't have any available for my 19-in rims on my Mazda. So they had two "Go get them from the warehouse" I'm sure they charge me premium prices because I told them to go ahead. I really wasn't worried about cost, I just wanted to try michelins. But I ended up with you only size michelins they had for my vehicle, which was the CC2's
I just got 4 Cross Climate 2 put on my 2014 Dodge Dart Rally at Tire Discounters today. With the roadside warranty,mount, and alignment it was $1200. (Kentucky,USA)
@@heartlesshorseman4202 You know that makes me feel a little bit better. I paid $1,300 and some change for mine, and I'm in Alabama. I've had people tell me they paid $850 for them and stuff like that, and that really burst my bubble. I'm wondering if I got ripped off, but I really think I got a pretty standard price. Especially after what you just told me. That's about the same that I paid anyway
Great informative video. As someone who wants the best tires for snow, does anyone out there have real world experience with snow?? As it is, I have ZERO traction right now and need to purchase new tires soon for winter. Without out going to actual snow tires, because I can’t afford 2 sets of tires. I have a little Nissan Sentra.
So I don't drive through the snow a lot. But I did go to Mount Rainier all the way up to the top and Washington State. I've been to lake Tahoe in the ice and slush. And then I also went through a blizzard in North Carolina earlier this year and I never used chains one time. Personally, these tires have better grip then when I went to Mount Rainier with a Chevy trailblazer with chains. That sounds ridiculous, but I didn't slip it all and I was 20,000 ft up in the air essentially 12 ft snow except for the plowed lanes
@@jakeofreshly thank you SO MUCH for your reply! Going to get Crossclimate 2s for my car very soon. I can’t thank you enough, as I have been absolutely dreading winter with my crummy tires. Will contact you after first snow!! Last winter, it took 7 people and 2 hours to get 9 miles home!! Thanks again!
@@hoobie7588 oh for sure! Let me know. I would love to hear what your experiences once you actually get them on there. I try to keep these things as honest as possible, so I hope you are not surprised, but pleasantly satisfied
What kind of car are these on? Is that an Equinox?
Hey man sorry for taking so long. I usually respond within seconds or minutes when somebody texts, but I was in Amsterdam and Paris for the past week and a half.
So I'm sorry for taking so long. These are on a Mazda CX-5 grand touring limited edition. It is the one with the front wheel drive, four cylinder 2.5 L engine. 19 in rims. And just to boot, it's dark blue
I think I missed the cons part. Any cons ? Otherwise I belive these are the best tires I could get for my car.
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So I actually did a whole problem video and posted it a couple months back. So I'm going to go ahead and post a link above it. But yeah, you're actually safe and assuming that there's not too many of them. There's a fuel efficiency one, as these tires use a mile or a mile and a half per gallon extra fuel. I did a video on that separately as well
There's a little bit of road noise. Not necessarily vibration, but road noise.
If you go through the playlist call me you should be able to see all the cons that I have. I have a dozen videos on there or so, so it should not be too hard to find
By the way, thank you for watching my videos. It means more to me than you can possibly imagine
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Here is the playlist link. But the main things were fuel efficiency, noise, and a couple other things. You can check the problems video if you want a little bit more. Thank you for watching again
I wanted buy the Cc2 but no where I could find the 245/40 18 for my c450. I recommended Cc2 to my friend for his Kia though and he has those on his cars now.
I ended up buying pilot all season 4 since it was available to buy. Pretty amazing tires though. 😁
So the way you could not get these tires is the same way I accidentally fell into them. My parents and a couple of my siblings and some other of my friends were driving michelins. And they could not stop talking about them and praising them. So after listening to Michelin nuts for the past 3 years, I decided to get a pair.
I had no clue which ones. So I went to the tire shop and asked for a set. Because I have 19 in rims, there was only one pair of Michelin tires available for me. And that happened to be the cross climate twos. So I had no plan on getting these specific tires at all in the beginning. I just wanted a set of Michelin tires to fit in with my fan boys and fan girls.
Well it turns out, I sat down and looked them up for a minute and told them to put a set on my tire. And the rest is history.
So it really was just sort of luck that I got these in the beginning. But I'm starting to realize, I think it was fate.
I've heard people bring up the pilot tires a lot, and to be honest with you I really have not had that many bad tires. And I've used a lot of medium to par tire brands. So this is my first time ever using a primo tire. And I must say, I don't know if there's any comparison to it.
But I have heard a lot of good stuff about the pilot all seasons
@@jakeofreshly I did a lot of research before finalizing on either cc2 or pilot all season 4. What I wanted was pilot all season 4 but I actually needed was cc2.
Why cc2? There are two important factors 1. Snow 2. Rain 😀. We get horrible snow storms here in NY. I find it very difficult to drive in snow with my Pirellis. Also couple of times I experienced hydroplaning and It scared the crap out of me.
The cc2 has better performance in snow and also it does avoid hydroplaning. On the other hand pilot all season 4 are much grippier. I’m not that confident to drive that in the snow but it performed well so far.
The only thing I’m lacking is the steering response/feedback.
@@jakeofreshly only after buying the all season 4 I came to know that Amazon sells tyre too. They had the cc2 available to purchase for my car.
My problem was finding the rear tyre 245 40 18 but the front tyre 225 45 18 were available everywhere.
Did you register your tyre at Michelin’s website ?. 3 years roadside assistance, 100 miles of towing, and flat tyre repair comes free if you do.
@@REYMANK7 see it sounds like you actually had a plan when you went to attack this. I really did not lol but I did a lot of research because they had to get them from the warehouse and I had to wait a couple hours. And then the couple hours, I pretty much saw everything I needed to see.
I'm a little weird, because I'm an engineer. But I looked at the full depth thread pattern and looked up the tooling that was required to do that. I realized the benefit you would get, and wondered why every single tire was not using this technology. After looking up the tooling and the price of the machines, I realized that it's a huge capital expenditure and it cost a lot of money to run full depth tread pattern tooling equipment.
In short and plain English. It's really expensive to make tires like this. And a lot of people would rather have cheap tires. Once I learned that and saw the process, I was sold
Ever since I bought them, I've been wondering why every single tire company doesn't do treads like this. I've also wondered why the government has not legally mandated all tires be made like this because they are so advanced over other tires.
Not since realized it is because of cost. If everybody made tires this nice and just expensive, nobody could afford them.
I've gone through 2 sets of Nokian WRG4 SUVs prior to getting a set of CC2s and IMO winter traction is superior in the WRG4 SUVs if that is important for your needs. For example with 4/32nds of tread on the WRG4 SUVs I could accelerate in hard packed snow/ice corner and maintain my lane. The same conditions with new CC2s I would over drift into oncoming lane.
Where are you located at, might I ask? I've actually never heard of those tires before, and I don't want to see if I can get a pair of them where I live. Mine are nowhere near from wearing out, as you can tell they look brand new. But it would definitely be interesting to try them in the future. Also how much did they cost?
I also appreciate your criticisms as well. I'll definitely make sure to think about that when I make the next video, if I feel like people are still getting value out of these videos.
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Wisconsin
They are cheaper than the CC2s
@@Noypi54494 okay I was thinking you might have been out of the country or something, just because I've never heard of them. So I guess the fact is that I'm just an idiot lol. Makes more sense, and it's more consistent with how have you myself lol.
But damn, so you actually think they're better? That's really really interesting. I got michelins because of the name and the reputation. But I'm sure reputation only gets you so far
Nokians are kinda winter specialist tires, not great in the summer.
Pick yer poison.
What PSI do you run them at?
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This is kind of funny, but I just did a video about that. Check the video out. But the end result is I just followed what's on the inside of the car door panel and it seems to be the best.
Is it me or the tires are the wrong way , pretty sure the V is meant to be facin forward
Are you correct. But they're definitely on the correct way. It must just look funny on the camera, or maybe it's because I'm using selfie mode. But they're definitely on the correct way
I just looked, and you're looking at the front right tire. So the passenger side front tire. And what I did was I cranked the tires left, turning left. So you're looking at the back side of the front right tire that the tire is turned left so you can get a better view in the sun. That might be why it looks like that
And then the second one on the penny test is the front left tire and it's cranked the same way but you're looking more at the 12:00, top position of the tire
I thinking of getting some of these Tyres thanks
Hey buddy. Thanks for commenting, and I'm sorry for taking so long to get back to you. I've been in Europe traveling, so no driving the last couple weeks. Lol but if you are looking for a good grip and good safety and all our good performance, I don't think you can beat these suckers
I have done a couple videos on the things I love and a couple videos on the problems and the things I hate. So if you want to look at those, let me know what you think. Overall a great tire
Hi, can you please show tread wear on all four tires ? I just bought my set , after abusing crossclimate + , for at least 50 k km ( 35 k miles )
So I can do that, but I'll have to throw up another video later. I have rotated my tires every 10,000 mi, so they are all wore out the exact same.
I actually just rotated those tires to the back so now the fresh tires from the rear are on the front. So I have not slacked on maintenance and made sure to keep them rotated every 7 to 10,000 mi. So they should all look the same i think.
Howndid u likenthe CrossClimate+
@@jakeofreshly , they were good in almost all conditions ( surprisingly good on snow for all season tiers ) , but in semi wet conditions in city , after long dry periods ( oil and rain mix on road )passed 15 k km sudden braking was no no. Last 1k miles they were noisy as ....
@@Brodomodo sorry assume you're looking for a new set of tires? Like I said, these have 27,500 mi on them. And they look fantastic. I'm not sure how comfortable they are, but if there was a way to send you close up pictures I definitely would. I think there's a way I can add pictures on RUclips as well, so I might try and find that so you can see
My CC2 after 9k are not showing much wear
Like I'm showing, I have 27,000 mi of mine and they're not showing anywhere. Somebody told me you can get a tire gauge that measures the depth of the tread for $4, but I think I'll stick with Abraham Lincoln because that's what the troopers use around here. That might be a country thing, but it's a fact.
I do drive... Softly though. Im not a speed demon. Never got the car above 95 (only once in three years). Never spun a tire or done amything stupid.
OH! and most is interstate driving. I'm sure it would be different if I was going up and down hills in a city with a lot of stop signs. But I'm definitely not.
They are supposed to be good to 2/32 with Adequate traction
When I first figured that out and purchased these, I had to do my research. Because I could not figure out why all vehicles did not follow this same pattern. I mean it makes no sense; you have full depth thread and then they can wear down as much as they want without affecting the tread pattern? Why would everybody not do that?
Then I looked up the actual processed and tools required for making these tires. And I realized that full depth tread pattern requires more precise instrumentation that breaks a lot more.
I thought it could have been preference. I thought it could have been designed. I thought there had to be any reason people did not do this on every tire
Turns out, it's just money. The tools and equipment is more expensive to purchase and operate when you are making tires like this.
Which shocked me, even though it shouldn't have. I thought they must be some definitive reason why everybody doesn't do this and have full depth thread pattern.
At the end of the day, it's just funny. People make cheap tires for cheap people. Then the world keeps spinning.
@@jakeofreshly yeah I understand cheap tires have there place but they really are not even that cheap from what I have seen, you might save $75 to $100 tops going with a no name brand. I had a older Honda Accord before my Toyota and I would buy sumitomo tires and they where great for the money. I actually looked what they had to offer before I went with the Michelins but again they really where not that much cheaper than the cross climates
@@thetechlibrarian 100%. The price really doesn't matter that much. And, for example, if you're buying these for somebody you love like your daughter or son or a wife or husband, then the $100 liter doesn't mean anything.
Like, I don't think anybody buys these tires because they're looking for a discount. I think they buy them when they're looking for the best of the best. And when I started making these videos call me it was new technology. But I'm pretty sure they're tried and true and testing themselves everyday
Where are troopers pulling folks over to check their tire thread depth?? Shouldn't they be out there fighting real crime??😅
Hahahah you would think. But they will pull you over down in Alabama, and if they can’t find a problem with you, then they will start measuring your tread depth. Lol. Man, it happens in those small towns, I promise.
My gas mileage almost doubled after putting these on my 2022 mazda cx9
lol sure… … …
Get a tread depth tool for $4 and measure them. 👍
Definitely could. I had no clue they were that cheap. Thanks for letting me know!
@@awdfan7375 for sure. However, I was making this review I just wanted to give you something that's hard to find on RUclips. If you went and talked to a good friend who would give you an honest opinion who was knowledgeable on the subject, that's what I wanted to give you. You can look up all the technicalities of science and the numbers anywhere. But I just wanted to be that friend who gives you an honest opinion and action knows what he's talking about.
It doesn't negate the fact I should probably buy one of these tools. But I've just never had any interest. I'm just a regular guy. Work an office job. I'm an engineer. And I'm brutally honest.
I actually already picked up one, so I should be using the new next video if I decide to continue doing these
Get a proper tread guage, if you want to do proper comparison videos. Til then... thumbs down.
I will leave that up to the professionals. I'm not exactly trying to measure them, but trying to reference the depth from the first video at 4,000 mi and then the review at 27,000 mi.
You're definitely correct, if I was a tire shop or a tire salesman I definitely should have a gauge. But I was just checking to do them because I know the size of a dime is not changed. Plus I've had my tires checked multiple times by state troopers and they use the same coin.
I appreciate you watching my video though. I never thought they would get this far, to where all these people would hold me as an expert. But I really appreciate you clicking on the video and commenting. It helps me immensely
Think Jake did a fine anecdotal take on his experience w/ the tire.. def would be cool, but would his measuring his accurate mm by mm treadwear contribute to your judgement of the tire? I would be hard pressed to admit that, in this case, numbers mean more than personal experience.
@@hi29592 hahah hey man thats what i was going for. I mean you can look up the science at tire engineers or on the engineers youtube page. You can get the specs and thickness and measurements and technical specifications off the website. You can even get the wear patterns and intricacies such as rolling resistance off the website. So you don't need me for all the technical indicators and minute by minute mathematical details.
Just trying to give an honest opinion, sort of like a friend. If you were to ask a friend if he liked his tires, then you would expect him to give you an honest and personable opinion. And that's what I'm trying to do.
You can look up all the technical things elsewhere. But you can't get an honest friendly opinion from just anyone. So i was trying to fill that gap in knowledge/value. Basically, what questions did i wish were answered when i was researching these.
Thanks for understanding @gydo. You rock, and i appreciate your feedback.
@@hi29592 i guess i still earned a thumbs down. Lol. I know i can always get better, and sometimes it takes an irritated person to show it. Gotta give credit where its due.
Im just happy ppl are watching. Never thought i would get 50 subs. Much less 250