My father in law lived this. Joined the Navy on 12/8/41 at 16 and by early 1942 was a torpedo man on destroyer escorts. His first cruises were convoy duty in the North Atlantic. He made 37 trips through the Panama Canal seeing Naval combat in both the Atlantic & Pacific theaters. It was only when he realized that I too am a Navy vet did he start to open up to me probably around 1995, I never asked he just started talking one day. I truly feel fortunate to have heard his stories first hand. We miss you Brownie. Thanks to allow serving, those who have, and those who will in the future. FLY NAVY!!!
@@beedalton9675 My father in law told me that they were not allowed to stop if a merchant ship got hit. They would however throw survival supplies overboard for them. FLY NAVY!!!
My father served on one of the Victory ships as part of a gunnery crew. The navy men who were part of the gunners on the merchant ships were called the Armed Guard. His ship was attacked by a German bomber and was wounded in the process. He was unloaded at a port at the northern tip of Scotland unconscious. He woke up in a civilian hospital and the ship continued on to it's port. I could never get him to say if the ship was headed for Murmansk or Archangel in Russia. The north Atlantic crossing was rough but the Murmansk run was just as deadly because the ships were within range of German bombers based in Norway.
They didn't listen for submarines using "SONAR". Sonar (or ASDIC if you will) was device which sent out a directional sound wave which would reflect back off of a submarine a give away the submarine's location. They used passive listening devices, known as hydrophones to listen for thing like turning propellers on submarines or torpedoes or really any sound emitted by a submarine.
This was a focused generation, not confused by what a man or women is, and frankly, treated all with the respect they earned, not what someone thought they should have. I was always amazed at my parents ability to figure out complicated math faster than my fingers, and it was correct. Amazing is what I would call them.
Today's generation would be crying in for their safe space, calling the bad U-boat people Nazis, to which they would reply "danke!" before torpedoing them to death.
They are not called "water bombs". They are Depth Charges. The triggers on these Charges are set for different depths to go off according the the depth of the target (submarine)
The trouble with this story is that, although the Americans did capture a submarine with an Enigma machine on board, that happened in 1944, three years too late to make a difference. The British destroyer HMS Bulldog had captured a German sub carrying an Enigma machine and the accompanying material for decoding messages in 1941, and that actually led to the breaking of the Nazi code. The commander of the Bulldog was Capt. Joe Baker-Creswell
Actually general algorithm of the Enigma was known from even before the war because polish mathematicians have created a way to decode it. It was very inefficient though and still steps had to be taken to perfect it. Properly encoded Enigma messages would be still unreeadable, but Germans often were getting lazy and didn't change the key coded in their machines while sending messages - in which case what polish mathematicians discovered and the Brits then perfected was sufficient to decode such message.
@@ripLunarBirdCLH Here's what: Even though the Allies could decipher the Enigma they also decided not to reveal that by making sure most convoys actually weren't re-routed to avoid the positions the German submarines were known to be at. Some carrying important cargo were re-routed to avoid the subs while others were sent to their usual routes with a warning that German subs *were* in a particular area. So while the convoys were sent straight into the path of the submarines the crews of the ship at least knew when to be prepared to be torpedoed at any moment. Allied anti-submarine aircraft were given the position of the German submarines on occasion to deal a "serious blow" but mostly not. If the Allied aircraft somehow were locating the German subs a bit too often on the vast Atlantic the Germans would get suspicious Enigma had been broken. Fact is some captains of the subs *were* getting suspicious and reported that it was "likely" the Allies could read Enigma. Fortunately the arrogance of the nazis meant this was roundly ignored.
The interpretations of the actions of the captain and crew provided don't match what happened in the movie. And as noted elsewhere, the terminology from the voice over is wrong/inaccurate. Get it right, please.
This would have been much better without the commentary. Tom Hanks and the director do a great job in telling the story, don't ruin it with the Robovoice commentary.
If you want to see a true riveting destroyer vs U-Boat film watch 1958’s “The Enemy Below” with Robert Mitchum and Curt Jurgens. The U Boat doesn’t squeal like an animal in that film.
@@dovetonsturdee7033 Indeed, or watch the "Cruel Sea" movie followed by the full series of "Das Boot" in the original German with subtitles. Both far superior to the Computer Generated, Tom Hanks, tosh.
Gray Wolf contacts Grayhound. Interesting. I doubt U-boats had the capability of voice comms to enemy vessels as they would't know the freqs. Comments around 9:20. Rubbish. The CO would be contemplating his next tactics, the loss of ships was bad but there is no time for brooding. Sorry you do not know the command processes and further comments are nonsense. 13:10. The submarine fired a torpedo not a missile and the aircraft dropped depth charges not bombs. Please get the terminology correct.
Grey wolf contacting the hound is a scene in the movie, don't know why HW didn't catch that history buff but it made the cut, it's a movie recap not yarnhub
Uhm, this is a Hollywood production, based on a novel, I believe. It doesn't claim that it's historically correct 100%. Can you imagine how boring the plot of this movie eould have been without any of the drama that the producers wrote into the script?
I served on destroyers, one was a Fletcher. I was in a hunter-killer group, a carrier and 6 destroyers or DEs. There were no windshield wipers on destroyer portholes. Cars built in the 1950s still had vacuum operated wipers. It was uncommon for Fletchers to serve in the Atlantic. They usually went directly to the Pacific because of being bigger ships, better range and more guns. Atlantic destroyers were usually Benson, Livermore, Gleaves, or older classes. It's not that hard to do proper research, but Hollywood rarely gets it right. Destroyers don't use active sonar continuously. Only when there may be a contact. Otherwise the sonar ping would draw subs to a convoy. And listening for subs required slow speed and a not too rough ocean. In a convoy, the noise of the other ships would block out most of the noise a sub would make. My father was in WWI and WWII. Never torpedoed, but bombed several times.
@@oceanmariner They used the museum ships for filming and as models. Closest thing they had to early WW2 Cans was a Fletcher in NOLA and a Flower Corvette in Canada Doubt a Sumner or Gearing would have pulled off a early war DD. And the Fletchers were only beginning to roll out 3 months or so after the movies date. I rode Sumners and Gearings on the Gunline back in the day. We would pull repair parts off of laid up Fletchers, and I rode a couple of Korean and Taiwan Fletchers on "exchange" cruises. I doubt a realistic movie of some ships being torpedoed on the horizon, followed by Twidgets listening to passive for three hours would have drawn much ticket sales.
I am confused...I served 6 years in the U.S. Navy and served on a Carrier for 18 months and at NO TIME..did I see any Lieutenant Commander running around with Scrambled Eggs on the bill of his officers cap. Only thing I remember about WWII is at one point the office of commodore was restored and at that point I know scrambled eggs on the bill of their officers hat was allowed but Hanks is a 2 1/2 striper..not a 3 striper because if he was a full Commander he could sport those scrambled eggs.
No scrambled eggs (or crossed fishbones as we say in our navy) for Lt-Cmdrs. Beginning only with Commanders. But then what do you expect with Tm Hnks ?
Much respect and I know iit's annoying. But it's a drama of a novel by a Brit (C S Forrester). It's not a re-enactmant A sub ffires ONE TORPEDFOAAT A FAST NANOEVERING Destroyrt? tthey attavk iin daylightt? Rhey radio thritr target to announce the untent to sink her and on, and on. If it gives a kid somewherre some kind of a clue it has done it's job, stil rhey ccouklld have got fhe hats right.
@@brucebartup6161 I know I know. But they probably got the wardrobe at a truck stop. A little attention to detail would be nice. Like saving Private Ryan. But...a different producer. Oh well.
In the nobel The Good Sheperd by Forester Krause was in fact Cmmoddore. But maybte the term , Commloldore to a mosern day uS audience miight ne confusing? mystery solved?
The U-boats began to surface and were ready for battle.... not one crew member on the bridge/conning tower..There just aint no way a submarine would run on the surface without a watch crew..
Exactly. Their mission was not open warfare, but to keep the supplies from reaching Europe. Although they did have the advantage of stealth, they were tin cans and DDs were VERY hard to hit with the torpedoes of that time, so they went after the slow-moving, barely armed transport ships. The U-boats only engaged if they were being hunted by the DDs, and even then tried to get away rather than try to destroy the DD, because once they were damaged, they either sank or had to surface which meant they only had the deck gun vs. the DDs 4 5" guns plus boffors and .50cal.
Expensive? Do you not know how many Wolf Packs were out there? I don’t think they’re concerned with expense lol meanwhile if the escort is providing active threat to the submarine they have to neutralize it
@@brysonkuervers2570 I stand by my answer. Depending on what year in the war it was, the numbers of UBoats/wolf packs varied. Escorts are always a threat to UBoats. Again the primary mission of the Atlantic UBoats was to sink cargo ships. Escorts are difficult targets being small, fast and maneuverable.
@@d53101 Don't listen to the idiot above. You're bang on and the whole movie is a farce when it comes to U-Boot tactics. I'd add that they was never enough U-Boots in the Atlantic to achieve what they were set out to do. From 42 on the war was basically over for the Kriegsmarine anyway.
Not "only", as they sank battleships, cruisers, even aircraft carriers throughout the war...but their main goals were the freighters, especially the tankers.
I only have one comment, Having served in the USN, (74-84), on both CG's and DDG's in both the Atlantic and Pacific, The scenes of the crew during the attack showed NO pitch or roll of the ship. That Fletcher would have been bouncing like a cork ! Every one would have been holding on.
It was British tactics that the American navy adopted thru the heavy losses the British suffered in the early stages of the Battle of the Atlantic it also helped that the royal navy captured a German U-boat Enigma machine which helped read German intentions during the many battles in the Atlantic . Still many deaths on all sides. It's a shame that with the wars and the tears for the fallen that we haven't learned the lessons from the past . Peace to ✌️ All 🇬🇧
Well an Enigma machine had already been in hand before 1940 thanks to Polish intelligence however it was the type that was being used by the Wehrmacht not the navy and as the Germans changed the code everyday what the Brits needed was the code book and by chance they achieved to get it from a crippled u boat before the German crew destroying it ,then they had the chance of decoding the german code even if the Germans had started using 4 rotor types enigma code machine.This was the turning point in the Atlantic War.German Kriegsmarine HQ only got suspicious about being decoded only in late 1943 but by that time the U Boat flotilla had lost the initiative.
@@emrahbulut1458 Thank you for your reply I was aware of the polish Enigma machine. Thank you for the details I wasn't aware of all the information you provided many thanks 👍 peace to ✌️ All 🇬🇧
@@Simon_S22 808 U-boats were destroyed during the Battle of the Atlantic. Of these, 84 were destroyed by bombing is shipyards late in the war. Of the remaining 724, 257.5 were destroyed by the Royal & Royal Canadian Navies, and 196 by RAF Coastal Command. The US Navy sank 48.5, the USAAF 12, and US Naval Aircraft 74. Oh, and the Royal Navy planned and largely executed almost every assault landing in the west. When you grow up and learn to read properly, you might consider buying a proper history book.
Because yes it was common for German subs to surface in daylight, give away their one chief advantage (stealth), then attempt to use their one gun versus a group of destroyers and destroyer escorts each having four or more guns. Really wanted to love this movie but it had so many unbelievable holes it was unwatchable. A good CGI movie with nothing but swiss cheese for a plot.
I believe the part played by Hanks was in fact a situation whereby he would have been considered far to old to hold the rank of a destroyer captain at that time. However please correct me as I further believe it was not unusual for US destroyer captains at that stage of the war to be around 30 years of age!! Overall I guess its probably best just to treat the viewing of this movie as a night of sheer & pure entertainment only & certainly nothing much more!! Why do American films have so much bullshit attached to them & in general terms they really are not worth while watching!! I've always been a real movie fan & have a large collection of past movies. (proper stuff & not bullshit) but I watch very few modern movies as they are so badly put together let alone the terrible amateur acting & as I've said already, the sheer & utter bullshit that they represent!! I haven't been to a movie theatre for over three years now & considering what they charge for the bloody popcorn I can't see myself indulging in the absolutely rip-off entry price just to get in the bloody door!!
"Water bombs?" "Anti Submarine bombs?" Come on dude, they're friggin depth charges. And German "subs" aren't German "ships." There are "subs" and there are "ships." Each distinct from the other.
IN ROUGHLY 1985-86, FT. LAUDERDALE, FLORIDA,... MY GOOD FRIEND {MOOSE}, WAS ABOUT 65-70 AT THAT TIME, TOLD ME A STORY THAT HE WAS ON A WARSHIP, IN THE ATLANTIC ,.HE SAW A TORPEDO JUST MISS HIS SHIP, AS DID THE GREYHOUND... YOU TAKE THAT KINDA STUFF WITH YOU TO THE GRAVE,.FOR SURE...
Fletcher class destroyers did not escort north Atlantic convoys. The Fletchers were used almost exclusively in the Pacific theater in WW2. Their flush deck design was considered too wet for North Atlantic duty.
[Darcy Hildebrand] Sorry but not so!! To suggest the Pacific was a bathtub compared to the North Atlantic is false. The Fletcher's were sent to the Pacific because that is where they were needed most.
@@brgilbert2 Incorrect. If you don’t believe me then I suggest you read up on it. Nowhere were destroyers needed more than in the North Atlantic convoys. It wasn’t until Spring of 43 that they could largely negate the U-boat threat and feel some confidence they could get get the convoys across with reasonable loss rates. The Pacific Ocean is called ‘Pacific’ for a reason. It is not the North Atlantic.
Dickie, or HMCS Dodge, was based on the Flower-class corvette HMCS Sackville. While the flower-class corvettes played an essential role in the Battle of the Atlantic, they were slow, rather lightly armed and a misery for the crews.
You are right. Greyhound was a DE. That's the designation for a destroyer. The British called them corvettes but the Americans labeled their ships destroyers or DD's and the comparable American ship to a British corvette was a destroyer escort or DE.
Actually a corvette. Slightly smaller than a frigate. The most common Canadian convoy escort of the war. That’s what the Flower class were. A corvette, both Canadian or English was 205 feet long. Carried one 3 inch gun in the bow, one 40mm on the stern and a few 50cal and 303 cal machine guns. And depth charges. Lots and lots of depth charges. German subs feared the corvette more than the larger destroyer because the corvette was small and highly manoeuvrable and could stay right on top of a sub, unlike a destroyer which made “runs” across the subs estimated position. The corvette was outgunned by a surfaced sub but was so shallow of draft that a torpedo might pass right under. The subs 88 or 105mm deck gun was lethal as was to 20mm flack gun. The corvettes 3 inch and 40mm might sink a sub with a direct hit to the tower while the sub had 205 feet of ship to shoot at, any direct hit usually going into some critical system. Thus the corvette fought best against a submerged sub. Just so you know.
I was enjoying this movie despite too many near misses by torpedoes and collisions with other ships. However, the film turned into farce when the U-boat captain starts broadcasting through the destroyer's PA system. That was truly a face palm moment.
Nice recap of this movie. For clarity, the "water bombs" dropped by the Greyhound are typically called "Depth Charges" by the US Navy. I'm not sure what the bombs were that the UK planes dropped, but they appeared to be typical aircraft-style bombs similar to what they used during WW II sea battles.
The ship's name is USS Keeling (DD-548) and NOT Greyhound. Greyhound is the ship's call sign. Both the name Keeling and the hull number (DD-548) are fictional there was no (DD-548). The radio transmission was 15 miles "to starboard" and not "to the starboard". Submarines aren't ships, they are boats. Even our 16,700 tonne Ohio-class submarines are boats. Naval personnel are sailors and NOT soldiers. They are torpedoes and not missiles. Missiles fly through the air.
It never ceases to amaze me at lame attempts these people go to trying to explain something they have no idea about! So stupid! They need to do their research first!
My father, RIP WHO died last July, saw this. He was on a Destroyer from 1951 to 1953 (?). He missed WWII and Korea but said the movie was right on. Of course he actually missed warfare. He thought it was a great movie. Thank you for your service Dad
You need to get a reviewer/recapper who knows destroyers and their operations to do the review. I could hardly stand to watch the video because of the review.
I thought it was extremely decent of the German U-boats not to resume the attack on the convoy while the Greyhound was performing the ship's funeral service for its dead.
In the end, the destroyer was not joining the other ships, and was it was not being welcomed. It was leaving the convoy (the three escort ships had been relieved), and the troop ships were thanking them for protecting them on their Atlantic crossing.
Great movie, not sure of the historical accuracy. I would have thought troop transports would be a fast convoy (the flowers only did about 16 knots), and they would have more escorts. It's been a few years since I read the book, but if memory serves me right (no guarantees there) they claimed a possible sinking but not as many sinking (u-boats that is) as in the movie. still loved it anyway (as with the Cruel Sea), would have been better on the big screen.
I have really enjoyed watching this, but I'm afraid this is just more of the "how America won the war". It was the British and Commonwealth who firstly developed the technology to defeat the U-boat challenge, and secondly to get the job done. No one should disrespect the part American forces played in all of this, and their sacrifices, but credit where it is due please.
It is especially ridiculous since this movie is set in February 1942, when in reality no major convoy battles were happening because the Germans were too busy decimating American merchant shipping off the American east coast, which they could only do because the Americans were completely unprepared and had willfully ignored British naval intelligence and refused to follow British advice on anti submarine warfare.
This is only a 13min video that shows a very small part of the war. Maybe you should watch the ww2 documentary. I think you have something personal against America.
@@excite236, the British have always felt that they alone won the war, that America just wasn't much help even though without American help the Brits would be speaking fluent German now!
Evan Penny, sure, the British were so great at winning the war all by themselves...just ask the men of convoy PQ-17 how THEY feel about the British...oh, but then only 11 of the 35 merchantmen that started the trip survived the slaughter caused by the British Admiralty crapping their pants over the possibility that the German mega-battleship, Tirpitz, MIGHT be moving and pulling ALL of the escorts away from the convoy. Yeah, the mighty British won the war all by themselves, right? Maybe the Americans should have stayed out of it and let the Germans HAVE Britain!
For a submerged enemy, SONAR is an active location tool. Turning off the subs engines would NOT affect it. HYDROPHONES are a passive location tool, turning off the engines would give the operator nothing to hear. The two tools are used in conjunction with each other. AND.... "Water Bombs"? Seriously? Why don't they use someone who's first language is English to script a video like this.
The U Boats were rightfully nicknamed The Wolf Pack. This branch of the German Navy suffered 90% casualty rates. Only one crew member in ten survived the Second World War. Their top submarine captain was shot and killed by a sentry when he was returning back to the Naval Base because he gave the wrong password.
@@BELISARIO2011 there were thousands of ships in World War 2. Can't keep and save them all? Speaking of museum ships? I really do one of these days need to get over and visit my local ones.
@@BELISARIO2011 can't make up what's not there anymore? It's like complaining about doing a war movie about Germans and there no German tanks around? Is only like one tiger left that runs. I'm just happy someone did film about the Atlantic war. It's kind of an overlooked topic.
Eh! Your right! A Flower class corvette. Foot for foot the most deadly sub chaser in the war...as long as they kept the sub down. On the surface the sub out gunned the corvette with its deck and flack gun. Submerged the small corvette could sit on top and twist and turn with the sub until a depth charge ended the game. Good on you Tommy Canuck.
@@BobSmith-dk8nw Close. The greyhound scenes were shot on the museum ship USS Kidd, a Fletcher class. It’s in the Carolinas as a museum. The Flower Class Corvette, “Dickey” is based upon the HMCS Dodge which is a museum ship, not sure where in Canada. The Kidd was the only ship to be used in the filming. In the book the British destroyer “Harry” and polish destroyer Viktor “eagle” were slightly smaller than Kidd. The CGI in the movie shows three destroyers all identical to the Kidd and a corvette. From stock photographs.
@@MrJento I was just talking about the _Dodge_ (AKA Dickey) in reply to the comment about there being a Canadian vessel in the movie. CGI of the ship was done with _HMCS Sackville_ located at Halifax, Nova Scotia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMCS_Sackville_(K181) The _Kidd_ is in Baton Rouge. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Kidd_(DD-661) Pre-production photography was done at sea on board the modern day frigate, _HMCS Montreal_ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMCS_Montr%C3%A9al_(FFH_336) Yes. Apparently the other escorts were a Tribal Class Destroyer and the Polish Grom Class Destroyer. Which is actually a fairly strong escort for the day. Three Destroyers and one Corvette. I'd have expected it to be the other way around. I've not seen the movie and if it stays on Apple - won't. I read the book over 50 years ago. I should probably try and buy a copy off the Internet ... but ... I've done that a lot since I figured out I could do it and am currently awash in books. These older books are mixed in with some of the newer ones as well ... and ... I just bought a 1935 edition of a Manual on using the '03 Springfield ... which I don't have one of ... at least ... not yet ... One thing I'd like to find would be a complete set of Forester's Hornblower series ... but I can see it would cost me a good bit ... www.amazon.com/dp/B075VFQCTM?searchxofy=true&binding=kindle_edition&ref_=dbs_s_aps_series_rwt_tkin&qid=1648857195&sr=8-19 If only I were rich ... .
@@BobSmith-dk8nw I think we must be brothers from different mothers. I too read just about every Forrester novel about 50 years ago. Some of the details get blurry now. I too admired the 1903 Springfield. Shot one for years in hi-power. Then I acquired two M1’s and in a moment of weakness sold the 1903. Then I gave my brother Dads 1903A1. I like to read. I donate my excess books to the local library. Check them out a time or two to re-read. Then when the library has a surplus sale I buy them back, read them, then donate to the library. Such is amusement in retirement. Fox out.
What everyone needs to remember is the verbal description is automated and feed a script by non navel people who use other descriptive adjectives most people are use to..
I haven't seen the Movie Yet! I really look forward to it? As far as accuratuacy is concerned. I've always been about that. 🤔🤔 IF it's not True, or close too the truth, then it's just an imaginary tale. Meant too entertain us. These long awaited memories, and retellings of People's real Life experience's? Are very important, and very necessary, to the History of Our Culture, Our Society, & too inform other's of just what Thier Forefathers, and relatives had too Endure. Thank You for The Video and explanation of the Film GreyHound. Wyoming, Robert,🇨🇦🇺🇸🇨🇦🇺🇸👀👀🤔🤔👍👍🙏🙏
I saw the movie last year. I liked the combat scenes but what sucks is that the U-boat commanders decide to do stupid things like go to the surface to shoot the destroyer with the 88mm. in the best Hollywood style. In the end, the Northamerican destroyer survives and the Germans, as usual, pay for their stupidity. More of the same. For those who like the subject I recommend the book Iron Coffins by U boot commander Herbet Werner
The sub is not nuclear, so it can only operate underwater so long as the batteries held out...1940's batteries, which has to be recharged by the diesel engine, which could not run underwater, so they HAD TO SURFACE at some point because they would run out of power and die or they had to come up high enough to vent the exhaust from their diesel engine, so yeah, at some point, especially during long periods of trying to avoid escorts trying to kill them, they had no choice but to surface and at that point, they either man the gun and try to survive or just get destroyed.
Dicky was a corvette as were the vast majority of warships protecting convoys. Cheap and easy to build manoeuvrable with weapons systems designed for anti submarine warfare. Not the ship you wanted to be on during a storm. Anti submarine bombs? are those anything like depth charges? (sarcasm)
Just because there was an oil slick didn't always mean the sub was hit. Submarine officers would release oil which gave the appearance the sub was hit.
I was on a WWII destroyer USS O'brien DD 725 and Later on the DD 692 as a radar man and you could not smoke on the bridge or CIC because the smoke would possibly create electronic equipment problems !!! So why was this done in the movie !!!!!
Another USN veteran here.... The so-called Underwater Bombs are rightfully called Depth Charges. My father and uncle were Navy sailors in World War II. Even though their battles occurred 77- 80 years ago, I would not describe them as "ancient warfare." Not yet please.
If you were going to narrate a movie describing the battle between US Navy destroyers and German submarines tried doing some research beforehand and get your terminology correct.
Which is worse the droid voice or the person that wrote this ? Still it's a good third grade school video project........ Oh! it wasn't done by third graders. Never mind.
What kind of pressure captain n crew were facing...only they knows. Salute to the captain who withstand under such harsh conditions n manage to survive n destroy those submarines. Here people start crying when temperature falls in winter...WHAT A SHAME.
"By diving into the ocean"....where else in hell was the sub going to dive? Clearly, whoever created thos video did not take the time to really "proofread" what was being said. Depth charges, or ash cans, are NOT water bombs, either!
My father in law lived this. Joined the Navy on 12/8/41 at 16 and by early 1942 was a torpedo man on destroyer escorts. His first cruises were convoy duty in the North Atlantic. He made 37 trips through the Panama Canal seeing Naval combat in both the Atlantic & Pacific theaters. It was only when he realized that I too am a Navy vet did he start to open up to me probably around 1995, I never asked he just started talking one day. I truly feel fortunate to have heard his stories first hand. We miss you Brownie. Thanks to allow serving, those who have, and those who will in the future. FLY NAVY!!!
Respect
I'm a merchant marine thanks to the destroyer men that did the best they could and more to help get the supplies across the pond
@@beedalton9675 My father in law told me that they were not allowed to stop if a merchant ship got hit. They would however throw survival supplies overboard for them. FLY NAVY!!!
Happy Navy Birthday. Spy Navy.
My father served on one of the Victory ships as part of a gunnery crew. The navy men who were part of the gunners on the merchant ships were called the Armed Guard. His ship was attacked by a German bomber and was wounded in the process. He was unloaded at a port at the northern tip of Scotland unconscious. He woke up in a civilian hospital and the ship continued on to it's port. I could never get him to say if the ship was headed for Murmansk or Archangel in Russia. The north Atlantic crossing was rough but the Murmansk run was just as deadly because the ships were within range of German bombers based in Norway.
my dad was a CPO on one of those ships, he said they were more afraid of the weather then anything else. these guys had balls of steel.
thanks to your dad these were the greatest generation
The weather is what really stayed with me on this film. I enjoyed it 😊
They didn't listen for submarines using "SONAR". Sonar (or ASDIC if you will) was device which sent out a directional sound wave which would reflect back off of a submarine a give away the submarine's location. They used passive listening devices, known as hydrophones to listen for thing like turning propellers on submarines or torpedoes or really any sound emitted by a submarine.
isnt that just passive sonar?
Bravo Zulu Sir.⚓
@@dealopportunities No
This was a focused generation, not confused by what a man or women is, and frankly, treated all with the respect they earned, not what someone thought they should have. I was always amazed at my parents ability to figure out complicated math faster than my fingers, and it was correct. Amazing is what I would call them.
Today's generation would be crying in for their safe space, calling the bad U-boat people Nazis, to which they would reply "danke!" before torpedoing them to death.
They are not called "water bombs". They are Depth Charges. The triggers on these Charges are set for different depths to go off according the the depth of the target (submarine)
We learn more by watching ''The Enemy Below''.
No Robert Mitchum by a galactic stretch that Tm Hnks.
fuckn right
Also, missiles in ww2? I mean they did exist but they were not in u-boats!
@@Vincent98987
tom hanks' fantasies.
The Germans called them "Bata Bombe" translated as Bath Bomb... Depth Charge or Ash Can is what the Americans called them...
The trouble with this story is that, although the Americans did capture a submarine with an Enigma machine on board, that happened in 1944, three years too late to make a difference. The British destroyer HMS Bulldog had captured a German sub carrying an Enigma machine and the accompanying material for decoding messages in 1941, and that actually led to the breaking of the Nazi code.
The commander of the Bulldog was Capt. Joe Baker-Creswell
Actually general algorithm of the Enigma was known from even before the war because polish mathematicians have created a way to decode it.
It was very inefficient though and still steps had to be taken to perfect it. Properly encoded Enigma messages would be still unreeadable, but Germans often were getting lazy and didn't change the key coded in their machines while sending messages - in which case what polish mathematicians discovered and the Brits then perfected was sufficient to decode such message.
@@ripLunarBirdCLH Here's what: Even though the Allies could decipher the Enigma they also decided not to reveal that by making sure most convoys actually weren't re-routed to avoid the positions the German submarines were known to be at. Some carrying important cargo were re-routed to avoid the subs while others were sent to their usual routes with a warning that German subs *were* in a particular area. So while the convoys were sent straight into the path of the submarines the crews of the ship at least knew when to be prepared to be torpedoed at any moment.
Allied anti-submarine aircraft were given the position of the German submarines on occasion to deal a "serious blow" but mostly not. If the Allied aircraft somehow were locating the German subs a bit too often on the vast Atlantic the Germans would get suspicious Enigma had been broken. Fact is some captains of the subs *were* getting suspicious and reported that it was "likely" the Allies could read Enigma. Fortunately the arrogance of the nazis meant this was roundly ignored.
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I also questioned the narrator's use of use of the word "BOMB" and not "Depth Charge"
Chorus: rule Britannia!
WW2 German Submarines did not have missiles, they had Torpedoes. US Ships did not have "water bombs", they had Depth Charges.
The missiles of that time were several stories high, no way to fit that on a U-Boat :D
@@mathiaswittinger2808 Agreed, but Napoleon had "missiles" in the 1800s, mostly as terror weapons, not accurate / directed.
@@Thinker2-truth Just Congreve rockets! Missile only with electronic AI.
I think this channel writes the narration through ChatGPT or AI.
@@isaned Excellent Observation, "The things that pass for knowledge I can't understand..." - Reelin' In The Years by Steely Dan
The interpretations of the actions of the captain and crew provided don't match what happened in the movie. And as noted elsewhere, the terminology from the voice over is wrong/inaccurate. Get it right, please.
This would have been much better without the commentary. Tom Hanks and the director do a great job in telling the story, don't ruin it with the Robovoice commentary.
It is annoying.
It's hard to believe that NOBODY could be found who could read the script vastly better than the robot.
If you want to see a true riveting destroyer vs U-Boat film watch 1958’s “The Enemy Below” with Robert Mitchum and Curt Jurgens. The U Boat doesn’t squeal like an animal in that film.
Or if you want to know what the Battle of the Atlantic was really like, read 'The Cruel Sea.'
A classic one of my all time favorites!
@@dovetonsturdee7033 Indeed, or watch the "Cruel Sea" movie followed by the full series of "Das Boot" in the original German with subtitles. Both far superior to the Computer Generated, Tom Hanks, tosh.
@@sandrafreeman502 Das Boot. Loved that one as well
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Gray Wolf contacts Grayhound. Interesting. I doubt U-boats had the capability of voice comms to enemy vessels as they would't know the freqs. Comments around 9:20. Rubbish. The CO would be contemplating his next tactics, the loss of ships was bad but there is no time for brooding. Sorry you do not know the command processes and further comments are nonsense. 13:10. The submarine fired a torpedo not a missile and the aircraft dropped depth charges not bombs. Please get the terminology correct.
Grey wolf contacting the hound is a scene in the movie, don't know why HW didn't catch that history buff but it made the cut, it's a movie recap not yarnhub
Uhm, this is a Hollywood production, based on a novel, I believe. It doesn't claim that it's historically correct 100%.
Can you imagine how boring the plot of this movie eould have been without any of the drama that the producers wrote into the script?
Also, at 5:20.. German U-boats were manned by sailors.. NOT soldiers. I don't know who wrote the narration for this but he needs to be fired.
Accually some german subs did have the equipment to do this as a fear tactitc
No ''The Enemy Below'' this one.
I served on destroyers, one was a Fletcher. I was in a hunter-killer group, a carrier and 6 destroyers or DEs. There were no windshield wipers on destroyer portholes. Cars built in the 1950s still had vacuum operated wipers. It was uncommon for Fletchers to serve in the Atlantic. They usually went directly to the Pacific because of being bigger ships, better range and more guns. Atlantic destroyers were usually Benson, Livermore, Gleaves, or older classes. It's not that hard to do proper research, but Hollywood rarely gets it right. Destroyers don't use active sonar continuously. Only when there may be a contact. Otherwise the sonar ping would draw subs to a convoy. And listening for subs required slow speed and a not too rough ocean. In a convoy, the noise of the other ships would block out most of the noise a sub would make.
My father was in WWI and WWII. Never torpedoed, but bombed several times.
Forester's book is based on a Mahan class destroyer, but of course none now exist.
Geez it's a Movie Not a History Documentary 🙄🙄
@@Nobody0512 It's not that hard to do it right.
Agreed. These mechanical computer voices seem to always never get things right, historically. @@oceanmariner
@@oceanmariner They used the museum ships for filming and as models. Closest thing they had to early WW2 Cans was a Fletcher in NOLA and a Flower Corvette in Canada Doubt a Sumner or Gearing would have pulled off a early war DD. And the Fletchers were only beginning to roll out 3 months or so after the movies date. I rode Sumners and Gearings on the Gunline back in the day. We would pull repair parts off of laid up Fletchers, and I rode a couple of Korean and Taiwan Fletchers on "exchange" cruises. I doubt a realistic movie of some ships being torpedoed on the horizon, followed by Twidgets listening to passive for three hours would have drawn much ticket sales.
I am confused...I served 6 years in the U.S. Navy and served on a Carrier for 18 months and at NO TIME..did I see any Lieutenant Commander running around with Scrambled Eggs on the bill of his officers cap. Only thing I remember about WWII is at one point the office of commodore was restored and at that point I know scrambled eggs on the bill of their officers hat was allowed but Hanks is a 2 1/2 striper..not a 3 striper because if he was a full Commander he could sport those scrambled eggs.
No scrambled eggs
(or crossed fishbones as we say in our navy)
for Lt-Cmdrs.
Beginning only with Commanders.
But then what do you expect with Tm Hnks ?
22 years says you are correct.
Much respect and I know iit's annoying. But it's a drama of a novel by a Brit (C S Forrester). It's not a re-enactmant
A sub ffires ONE TORPEDFOAAT A FAST NANOEVERING Destroyrt?
tthey attavk iin daylightt?
Rhey radio thritr target to announce the untent to sink her
and on, and on.
If it gives a kid somewherre some kind of a clue it has done it's job,
stil rhey ccouklld have got fhe hats right.
@@brucebartup6161
I know I know. But they probably got the wardrobe at a truck stop. A little attention to detail would be nice. Like saving Private Ryan. But...a different producer. Oh well.
In the nobel The Good Sheperd by Forester Krause was in fact Cmmoddore. But maybte the term , Commloldore to a mosern day uS audience miight ne confusing?
mystery solved?
The U-boats began to surface and were ready for battle.... not one crew member on the bridge/conning tower..There just aint no way a submarine would run on the surface without a watch crew..
Correct. As soon as the tower hatch was clear of the water the watch officer would be through it. Just watch Das Boot, ffs not the series though.
@@davidharris733 Avoid the Das Boot TV series like the plague. For accuracy and credibility, it actually challenged the glory that was U571.
German submariners we’re discouraged from attacking escorts. Torpedoes are expensive and limited. UBoats were meant to attack merchant ships only.
Exactly. Their mission was not open warfare, but to keep the supplies from reaching Europe. Although they did have the advantage of stealth, they were tin cans and DDs were VERY hard to hit with the torpedoes of that time, so they went after the slow-moving, barely armed transport ships. The U-boats only engaged if they were being hunted by the DDs, and even then tried to get away rather than try to destroy the DD, because once they were damaged, they either sank or had to surface which meant they only had the deck gun vs. the DDs 4 5" guns plus boffors and .50cal.
Expensive? Do you not know how many Wolf Packs were out there? I don’t think they’re concerned with expense lol meanwhile if the escort is providing active threat to the submarine they have to neutralize it
@@brysonkuervers2570 I stand by my answer. Depending on what year in the war it was, the numbers of UBoats/wolf packs varied. Escorts are always a threat to UBoats. Again the primary mission of the Atlantic UBoats was to sink cargo ships. Escorts are difficult targets being small, fast and maneuverable.
@@d53101 Don't listen to the idiot above. You're bang on and the whole movie is a farce when it comes to U-Boot tactics. I'd add that they was never enough U-Boots in the Atlantic to achieve what they were set out to do. From 42 on the war was basically over for the Kriegsmarine anyway.
Not "only", as they sank battleships, cruisers, even aircraft carriers throughout the war...but their main goals were the freighters, especially the tankers.
Lose the robo voice.
I only have one comment, Having served in the USN, (74-84), on both CG's and DDG's in both the Atlantic and Pacific, The scenes of the crew during the attack showed NO pitch or roll of the ship. That Fletcher would have been bouncing like a cork ! Every one would have been holding on.
It was British tactics that the American navy adopted thru the heavy losses the British suffered in the early stages of the Battle of the Atlantic it also helped that the royal navy captured a German U-boat Enigma machine which helped read German intentions during the many battles in the Atlantic . Still many deaths on all sides. It's a shame that with the wars and the tears for the fallen that we haven't learned the lessons from the past . Peace to ✌️ All 🇬🇧
Brit’s didn’t do shit but beg for aid. Who are you kidding here
@@Simon_S22 Really get a grip on reality and history but if not then you have your own naive opinion. peace to ✌️ All 🇬🇧
Well an Enigma machine had already been in hand before 1940 thanks to Polish intelligence however it was the type that was being used by the Wehrmacht not the navy and as the Germans changed the code everyday what the Brits needed was the code book and by chance they achieved to get it from a crippled u boat before the German crew destroying it ,then they had the chance of decoding the german code even if the Germans had started using 4 rotor types enigma code machine.This was the turning point in the Atlantic War.German Kriegsmarine HQ only got suspicious about being decoded only in late 1943 but by that time the U Boat flotilla had lost the initiative.
@@emrahbulut1458 Thank you for your reply I was aware of the polish Enigma machine. Thank you for the details I wasn't aware of all the information you provided many thanks 👍 peace to ✌️ All 🇬🇧
@@Simon_S22 808 U-boats were destroyed during the Battle of the Atlantic. Of these, 84 were destroyed by bombing is shipyards late in the war. Of the remaining 724, 257.5 were destroyed by the Royal & Royal Canadian Navies, and 196 by RAF Coastal Command. The US Navy sank 48.5, the USAAF 12, and US Naval Aircraft 74.
Oh, and the Royal Navy planned and largely executed almost every assault landing in the west.
When you grow up and learn to read properly, you might consider buying a proper history book.
Because yes it was common for German subs to surface in daylight, give away their one chief advantage (stealth), then attempt to use their one gun versus a group of destroyers and destroyer escorts each having four or more guns. Really wanted to love this movie but it had so many unbelievable holes it was unwatchable. A good CGI movie with nothing but swiss cheese for a plot.
Thank you, i started to think i was alone with my opinion.
When Superman and Captain America arrived the movie became more realistic
I believe the part played by Hanks was in fact a situation whereby he would have been considered far to old to hold the rank of a destroyer captain at that time. However please correct me as I further believe it was not unusual for US destroyer captains at that stage of the war to be around 30 years of age!! Overall I guess its probably best just to treat the viewing of this movie as a night of sheer & pure entertainment only & certainly nothing much more!! Why do American films have so much bullshit attached to them & in general terms they really are not worth while watching!! I've always been a real movie fan & have a large collection of past movies. (proper stuff & not bullshit) but I watch very few modern movies as they are so badly put together let alone the terrible amateur acting & as I've said already, the sheer & utter bullshit that they represent!! I haven't been to a movie theatre for over three years now & considering what they charge for the bloody popcorn I can't see myself indulging in the absolutely rip-off entry price just to get in the bloody door!!
Listening to this is like reading the assembly directions from furniture made in Japan
…or more likely China, but yes, spot on
@@hertzair1186
Much better👍
"Water bombs?" "Anti Submarine bombs?" Come on dude, they're friggin depth charges. And German "subs" aren't German "ships." There are "subs" and there are "ships." Each distinct from the other.
Channels like this are worried about one thing only, the monthly cheque from adsense
@@shoominati23 Bingo!
The top "Dark Seas" award of an Ashcan full of garbage with Seaweed cluster for "infamous comments in the face of the enemy.";)
U boats Germans didn’t actually have many actual subs till late war. They used snorkels. But they were called u boats not “subs”.
There are two types of watercraft:
1. Submarines
2. Targets
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Fletcher class destroyers did not escort north Atlantic convoys. The Fletchers were used almost exclusively in the Pacific theater in WW2. Their flush deck design was considered too wet for North Atlantic duty.
Then how can you justify using the decommissioned 4 pippers with the flush deck? They Were the lend lease destroyers.
@@philgiglio7922 They were expendable?
[Darcy Hildebrand] Sorry but not so!! To suggest the Pacific was a bathtub compared to the North Atlantic is false. The Fletcher's were sent to the Pacific because that is where they were needed most.
@@philgiglio7922 They weren’t well suited either but is what they had.
@@brgilbert2 Incorrect. If you don’t believe me then I suggest you read up on it. Nowhere were destroyers needed more than in the North Atlantic convoys. It wasn’t until Spring of 43 that they could largely negate the U-boat threat and feel some confidence they could get get the convoys across with reasonable loss rates. The Pacific Ocean is called ‘Pacific’ for a reason. It is not the North Atlantic.
It appears that the narrator doesn't know anything about ships. Harry and Dicky were Corvettes not destroyers
His name is AI Guy. He loves "water bombs."
Dickie, or HMCS Dodge, was based on the Flower-class corvette HMCS Sackville. While the flower-class corvettes played an essential role in the Battle of the Atlantic, they were slow, rather lightly armed and a misery for the crews.
You are right. Greyhound was a DE. That's the designation for a destroyer. The British called them corvettes but the Americans labeled their ships destroyers or DD's and the comparable American ship to a British corvette was a destroyer escort or DE.
I am sorry Greyhound appeared to be a DD not a DE.
If im not wrong, dicky was not a destroyer but a flower class frigate.
Actually a corvette. Slightly smaller than a frigate. The most common Canadian convoy escort of the war. That’s what the Flower class were. A corvette, both Canadian or English was 205 feet long. Carried one 3 inch gun in the bow, one 40mm on the stern and a few 50cal and 303 cal machine guns. And depth charges. Lots and lots of depth charges. German subs feared the corvette more than the larger destroyer because the corvette was small and highly manoeuvrable and could stay right on top of a sub, unlike a destroyer which made “runs” across the subs estimated position. The corvette was outgunned by a surfaced sub but was so shallow of draft that a torpedo might pass right under. The subs 88 or 105mm deck gun was lethal as was to 20mm flack gun. The corvettes 3 inch and 40mm might sink a sub with a direct hit to the tower while the sub had 205 feet of ship to shoot at, any direct hit usually going into some critical system. Thus the corvette fought best against a submerged sub. Just so you know.
@@MrJento oh yea, my bad
@@waterz2415
Nope. Your all good. Carry on.
You are correct s flower class corvette
@@MrJento Flower class corvettes carried a 4 inch gun forward
I was enjoying this movie despite too many near misses by torpedoes and collisions with other ships. However, the film turned into farce when the U-boat captain starts broadcasting through the destroyer's PA system. That was truly a face palm moment.
That's hollyweird for you!
@@alfredneuman6488 based on real events , well as real as Hollyweird could revise history , without being sued by historians that is !!!!!
[Bob McRae] Your kidding? They actually wrote that into the script?
The Good Shepherd was written by C S Forester as propaganda for the USN the book was ok the film cr*p history all wrong
@@terrybarrett2368 I am assuming then, that this movie was based on that book?
Nice recap of this movie. For clarity, the "water bombs" dropped by the Greyhound are typically called "Depth Charges" by the US Navy. I'm not sure what the bombs were that the UK planes dropped, but they appeared to be typical aircraft-style bombs similar to what they used during WW II sea battles.
The "water bomb" dropped by the plane would be called a depth bomb, a depth charge with the tail fins of a bomb. Clever name huh? 😁
Movie based 1950s novel b C.S. Forester call the "The Good Shepard". Still an excellent read and story.
The ship's name is USS Keeling (DD-548) and NOT Greyhound. Greyhound is the ship's call sign. Both the name Keeling and the hull number (DD-548) are fictional there was no (DD-548).
The radio transmission was 15 miles "to starboard" and not "to the starboard".
Submarines aren't ships, they are boats. Even our 16,700 tonne Ohio-class submarines are boats.
Naval personnel are sailors and NOT soldiers.
They are torpedoes and not missiles. Missiles fly through the air.
I like 'water bombs'.
And what about those underwater "soldiers."?
It never ceases to amaze me at lame attempts these people go to trying to explain something they have no idea about! So stupid! They need to do their research first!
Also its dove, not dived
Correct about there not having been any DD-548. It would have been a Fletcher class destroyer, but along with DD-549, it was canceled. No idea why.
When did German subs get missiles?
My father, RIP WHO died last July, saw this. He was on a Destroyer from 1951 to 1953 (?). He missed WWII and Korea but said the movie was right on. Of course he actually missed warfare. He thought it was a great movie. Thank you for your service Dad
Nice Video 👍
Thank you 👍
@@Fans_9 np man :)
You need to get a reviewer/recapper who knows destroyers and their operations to do the review. I could hardly stand to watch the video because of the review.
Sailing the open sea like a "Dark Seas," production, accuracy be damned.;)
I thought it was extremely decent of the German U-boats not to resume the attack on the convoy while the Greyhound was performing the ship's funeral service for its dead.
So at 13:05 they almost fired a missile what year was this ???
I enjoyed the commentary. I know nothing about naval terms and don’t care if the narrator got it wrong. I enjoyed it!
In the end, the destroyer was not joining the other ships, and was it was not being welcomed. It was leaving the convoy (the three escort ships had been relieved), and the troop ships were thanking them for protecting them on their Atlantic crossing.
Good animation, poor commentary
The Antisubmarine Bombs, Water Bombs are called Depth Charges and Submarines at that time fired Torpedoes not Missiles!
They were passing through a "tract," not a "track." Damn.
Submarine Missiles = Torpedo
submarines today have missiles, but back then they didn't
Enemy 'soldiers'? You mean sailors.
"water bombs"?
"death ceremony"?
etc...
- how about using actual naval terminology?
Best movie tom hanks evermade better than SAVING PRIVATE RYAN he puts you right into the battle most underrated movie of all time .
Great film,i would Like to see it againg.emotionant.👏😎
those water bombs as you call them are depth charges
Great movie, not sure of the historical accuracy. I would have thought troop transports would be a fast convoy (the flowers only did about 16 knots), and they would have more escorts. It's been a few years since I read the book, but if memory serves me right (no guarantees there) they claimed a possible sinking but not as many sinking (u-boats that is) as in the movie. still loved it anyway (as with the Cruel Sea), would have been better on the big screen.
As we all know, the victors write the history, even if fake!
I have really enjoyed watching this, but I'm afraid this is just more of the "how America won the war". It was the British and Commonwealth who firstly developed the technology to defeat the U-boat challenge, and secondly to get the job done. No one should disrespect the part American forces played in all of this, and their sacrifices, but credit where it is due please.
It is especially ridiculous since this movie is set in February 1942, when in reality no major convoy battles were happening because the Germans were too busy decimating American merchant shipping off the American east coast, which they could only do because the Americans were completely unprepared and had willfully ignored British naval intelligence and refused to follow British advice on anti submarine warfare.
This is only a 13min video that shows a very small part of the war. Maybe you should watch the ww2 documentary. I think you have something personal against America.
@@excite236, the British have always felt that they alone won the war, that America just wasn't much help even though without American help the Brits would be speaking fluent German now!
Evan Penny, sure, the British were so great at winning the war all by themselves...just ask the men of convoy PQ-17 how THEY feel about the British...oh, but then only 11 of the 35 merchantmen that started the trip survived the slaughter caused by the British Admiralty crapping their pants over the possibility that the German mega-battleship, Tirpitz, MIGHT be moving and pulling ALL of the escorts away from the convoy. Yeah, the mighty British won the war all by themselves, right? Maybe the Americans should have stayed out of it and let the Germans HAVE Britain!
Sorry Richard Richard. Not saying that at all.
For a submerged enemy, SONAR is an active location tool. Turning off the subs engines would NOT affect it. HYDROPHONES are a passive location tool, turning off the engines would give the operator nothing to hear. The two tools are used in conjunction with each other. AND.... "Water Bombs"? Seriously? Why don't they use someone who's first language is English to script a video like this.
Is this movie available on DVD? 😊
I SO want to see this flick WHEN are they ever going to release on DVD?
The U Boats were rightfully nicknamed The Wolf Pack. This branch of the German Navy suffered 90% casualty rates. Only one crew member in ten survived the Second World War. Their top submarine captain was shot and killed by a sentry when he was returning back to the Naval Base because he gave the wrong password.
Now they're 'water bombs'?
Its impossible to Fletcher class destroyer took part in action in feb 1942, because the Fletcher class enter in service from June 1942.
You realize you are nitpicking? What are they supposed to film from 80 years later?
@@WALTERBROADDUS a something trully history. There is not a four chimney destroyer ina museum to make a real history?
@@BELISARIO2011 there were thousands of ships in World War 2. Can't keep and save them all? Speaking of museum ships? I really do one of these days need to get over and visit my local ones.
@@WALTERBROADDUS I doubt if there were THOUSANDS. Hundreds were more real at least. But in this case it needs ONE.
@@BELISARIO2011 can't make up what's not there anymore? It's like complaining about doing a war movie about Germans and there no German tanks around? Is only like one tiger left that runs. I'm just happy someone did film about the Atlantic war. It's kind of an overlooked topic.
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FYI This movie is based on the book "The Good Shepherd" by C.S. Forester. A great read.
Lord knows what the creator of Hornblower would have made of the movie.
Got the sonar thing wrong too.
Oh yes, that sonar description is a load of bollocks.
As a former submarine Sonarman I couldn't help but cringe when the narrator butchered the explanation of how sonar worked.
Torpedoes swim they do not fly. Destroyers drop depth charges. I have never heard of a waterbomb.
I agree. A waterbomb is a waterfilled balloon
Has this movie been shown in the theaters yet? Any war movie featuring Tom Hanks you know is going to be a great war movie.
no its an Apple TV movie
@@skyclaw36 Which, I assume, means that it sank without trace?
Eh a Canadian warship we got recognized
Eh! Your right! A Flower class corvette. Foot for foot the most deadly sub chaser in the war...as long as they kept the sub down. On the surface the sub out gunned the corvette with its deck and flack gun. Submerged the small corvette could sit on top and twist and turn with the sub until a depth charge ended the game. Good on you Tommy Canuck.
They got the CGI using a Canadian Museum Ship.
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@@BobSmith-dk8nw
Close. The greyhound scenes were shot on the museum ship USS Kidd, a Fletcher class. It’s in the Carolinas as a museum.
The Flower Class Corvette, “Dickey” is based upon the HMCS Dodge which is a museum ship, not sure where in Canada.
The Kidd was the only ship to be used in the filming. In the book the British destroyer “Harry” and polish destroyer Viktor “eagle” were slightly smaller than Kidd.
The CGI in the movie shows three destroyers all identical to the Kidd and a corvette. From stock photographs.
@@MrJento I was just talking about the _Dodge_ (AKA Dickey) in reply to the comment about there being a Canadian vessel in the movie. CGI of the ship was done with _HMCS Sackville_ located at Halifax, Nova Scotia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMCS_Sackville_(K181)
The _Kidd_ is in Baton Rouge.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Kidd_(DD-661)
Pre-production photography was done at sea on board the modern day frigate, _HMCS Montreal_
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMCS_Montr%C3%A9al_(FFH_336)
Yes. Apparently the other escorts were a Tribal Class Destroyer and the Polish Grom Class Destroyer.
Which is actually a fairly strong escort for the day. Three Destroyers and one Corvette. I'd have expected it to be the other way around.
I've not seen the movie and if it stays on Apple - won't. I read the book over 50 years ago. I should probably try and buy a copy off the Internet ... but ... I've done that a lot since I figured out I could do it and am currently awash in books. These older books are mixed in with some of the newer ones as well ... and ...
I just bought a 1935 edition of a Manual on using the '03 Springfield ... which I don't have one of ... at least ... not yet ...
One thing I'd like to find would be a complete set of Forester's Hornblower series ... but I can see it would cost me a good bit ...
www.amazon.com/dp/B075VFQCTM?searchxofy=true&binding=kindle_edition&ref_=dbs_s_aps_series_rwt_tkin&qid=1648857195&sr=8-19
If only I were rich ...
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@@BobSmith-dk8nw
I think we must be brothers from different mothers. I too read just about every Forrester novel about 50 years ago. Some of the details get blurry now.
I too admired the 1903 Springfield. Shot one for years in hi-power. Then I acquired two M1’s and in a moment of weakness sold the 1903. Then I gave my brother Dads 1903A1.
I like to read. I donate my excess books to the local library. Check them out a time or two to re-read. Then when the library has a surplus sale I buy them back, read them, then donate to the library. Such is amusement in retirement.
Fox out.
Precise calculations to avoid torpedoes BS. Those were Hail Mary passes that worked. And yes the robo voice needs to go.
History must never be forgotten!
But why can we never learn from it?
where can this movie be purchased please?
A terrible in accurate description of what was happening
A water bomb no such thing
Either a depth charge or a hedgehog
A missle is really a torpedo
A non-proofread "Dark Seas" production.;)
What everyone needs to remember is the verbal description is automated and feed a script by non navel people who use other descriptive adjectives most people are use to..
Did you even watch the movie!? The amount of times, they actually say 'depth charges'.
Young man, the water bombs you've mentioned are called ""depth charges"".
How did I miss this movie? dang 2020.
I haven't seen the Movie Yet!
I really look forward to it? As far as accuratuacy is concerned. I've always been about that. 🤔🤔
IF it's not True, or close too the truth, then it's just an imaginary tale.
Meant too entertain us. These long awaited memories, and retellings of People's real Life experience's? Are very important, and very necessary, to the History of Our Culture, Our Society, & too inform other's of just what Thier Forefathers, and relatives had too Endure. Thank You for The Video and explanation of the Film GreyHound. Wyoming, Robert,🇨🇦🇺🇸🇨🇦🇺🇸👀👀🤔🤔👍👍🙏🙏
I saw the movie last year. I liked the combat scenes but what sucks is that the U-boat commanders decide to do stupid things like go to the surface to shoot the destroyer with the 88mm. in the best Hollywood style. In the end, the Northamerican destroyer survives and the Germans, as usual, pay for their stupidity. More of the same. For those who like the subject I recommend the book Iron Coffins by U boot commander Herbet Werner
Those who want to know what the Battle of the Atlantic was really like should read 'The Cruel Sea; by Nicholas Monsarrat.
They do not attack destroyers but when they attack merchant ships they do that at night and from the surface. So half of the movie makes sense:)
Looked great anyway, loved watching those sumbees get blown out of the water. 4 5 inchers and 2 Bofors Oh boy.
The sub is not nuclear, so it can only operate underwater so long as the batteries held out...1940's batteries, which has to be recharged by the diesel engine, which could not run underwater, so they HAD TO SURFACE at some point because they would run out of power and die or they had to come up high enough to vent the exhaust from their diesel engine, so yeah, at some point, especially during long periods of trying to avoid escorts trying to kill them, they had no choice but to surface and at that point, they either man the gun and try to survive or just get destroyed.
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Good. Just saw the Movie. thanks.
Very good movie! Just watched it
water bombs ?? when we were kids we made these ... we would fill rubber balloons with water and throw them lol ,,,
I didn't know that a battleship could turn like that!
Been waiting to see this movie!! It won't be released until next year!!
Sailing on a German submarine was direct way to hell. Three quarter of the men didn't return.
Great presentation for an excellent movie.
Dicky was a corvette as were the vast majority of warships protecting convoys. Cheap and easy to build manoeuvrable with weapons systems designed for anti submarine warfare. Not the ship you wanted to be on during a storm.
Anti submarine bombs? are those anything like depth charges? (sarcasm)
Detected a sub 15 miles from the surface? A flying sub? Impressive
It's an Over-Marine!
Distance from tracking ship not hight up over the water
Just because there was an oil slick didn't always mean the sub was hit. Submarine officers would release oil which gave the appearance the sub was hit.
I was on a WWII destroyer USS O'brien DD 725 and Later on the DD 692 as a radar man and you could not smoke on the bridge or CIC because the smoke would possibly create electronic equipment problems !!! So why was this done in the movie !!!!!
Why won't they release this in the UK? been waiting a long time to see this movie!!!
A UNDERRATED MOVIE THAT FOR SURE, IT WAS GOOD WW2 MOVIE
that´s a VERY good one!
Another USN veteran here.... The so-called Underwater Bombs are rightfully called Depth Charges. My father and uncle were Navy sailors in World War II. Even though their battles occurred 77- 80 years ago, I would not describe them as "ancient warfare." Not yet please.
"WATER BOMBS" are correctly called DEPTH CHARGES, by the US Navy.
Hey fan recap its 2 light destroyers a corvette and a flecher class destroyer
If you were going to narrate a movie describing the battle between US Navy destroyers and German submarines tried doing some research beforehand and get your terminology correct.
As I understand, there were no Fletchers in the Atlantic fleet.
como se llama la pelicula?
You are good
Which is worse the droid voice or the person that wrote this ? Still it's a good third grade school video project........ Oh! it wasn't done by third graders. Never mind.
I wouldn't insult 3rd graders like that !!!
It was an awesome flick!!!!
where can i buy it on bluray
What kind of pressure captain n crew were facing...only they knows. Salute to the captain who withstand under such harsh conditions n manage to survive n destroy those submarines. Here people start crying when temperature falls in winter...WHAT A SHAME.
can somebody post the full movie on youtube because the big movie company's are deleting all full movies from internet
This was a great movie.
"By diving into the ocean"....where else in hell was the sub going to dive? Clearly, whoever created thos video did not take the time to really "proofread" what was being said. Depth charges, or ash cans, are NOT water bombs, either!
i think he called them water bombs because they are set off by water pressure
was this before or after he saved privat ryan??
Great movie!!! Would have been better with a more accurate 35 - 40 year old captain.
Antisubmarine bombs? Could you mean depth charges?
Nah, you're thinking of water bombs.
@@nitetrane98 Lol. We filled up some balloons with water and made some water bombs once and through them out of a hotel window on the 7th floor.