I remember (looooooong ago during WoL) a Zerg losing because the audience cheered whenever a nydus was being made, so the opponent would become more alert and search aggressively to find the nydus, shutting it down. Probably the sound insulation in the player booths is better now.
@@Yan.H Thanks enjoyable video hehe but was meaning the one where maru nuked solars broodlords supply =D ruclips.net/video/G7fRMbMQVgk/видео.html&ab_channel=SC2HL
@@Chocosuchti i checked the IEM Katowice 2021 official site and the official Korean streamer for that event is someone named Crank. This is his reaction. ruclips.net/video/A3y92Ols_m4/видео.html Enjoy
I do think Ghosts need a nerf. They are just too good at everything. They do bonus damage against light, they can snipe armored units like Ultralisks and Lurkers, and then they can EMP Protoss.
As a Zerg main, Maru is a nightmare. He forces you to defend when you'd want to attack. Early (3base) muta/ling/bane would be my choice vs him but one mismicro would result in a loss; shutting down the drops w muta, counter w speedling/bane. Letting him attack early-midgame seems like an auto-loss. As stupid as it sounds 3spine/3spore per base could thwart him while giving an opportunity for counter. You lose ~10-20 drones per harass so it should be worth.
thinking about it 3base early muta would be too late. muta+mass static defense+queen/creep?! if he can get value from the 1st harass it's pretty much over.
What was that third game from Solar He lost the first two games so badly. It must feel good to be able to show what you are capable of. He’s a great player, it’s just that he was against Maru
Solar used to be Maru's kryptonite upon returning from military service. it turns out he was just rusty. Solar barely tech-ed up in this series, he was stifled.
Definitely misread, didn't even try to attack the gold until he scouted it much later and kept throwing down like 3 spines, cancelled then threw another one... Terrible read
Maru keep running the SCV's away from the lings when they get in, losing roughly half of them as they run... wouldn't just attacking the lings with the workers to kill them, losing even 2/3 of the workers in the process, be better?
Can someone explain like I'm 5 - why did Solar suddenly go on the defense and cancel the hatch? Obviously he was tricked in some fashion but I don't quite understand lmao
Because if Maru had actually been all-in, Solar would've lost the hatch, which is very expensive this early in the game. Canceling a building refunds you some of the resources spent building it--he spent the refunded resources building spine crawlers and zerglings.
@@rimonino so i understand cancelling giving back resources -- i guess what i don't understand is the mind game that led him to make the decision. He spots a few SCV's and 2 marines with a ling shortly before doing so, what was he concerned about?
@@dylanlokatys1560 Oh! Sorry I didn't quite pick up on what you meant, I hope I didn't sound condescending lol. Maru has a reputation for being super cheesy at times--he's not above pulling the boys for a high-risk early game pulling the boys + bunker rush, though usually it's paired with a proxy rax. IIRC Blackburn has a lower rush distance than some of the other maps, lessening the impact of no proxy, but it was still a pretty bad misread by Solar. For high speculation, there's a smaaaall possibility that there's a racial bias as well--if you've watched other Korean Zerg play, there are kind of a lot of early game drone pull shenanigans that go on. Even though Maru is Terran, Solar having Zerg colleagues that frequently pull the boys might lean him towards being extra wary of that happening. Edited to add: Maru didn't intend to mindgame Solar. Solar mindgamed himself lol
hrm. why can't zerg just straight up fight terran in pitched battle? seems op to me. ghosts wreck most things. marine/tank take care of everythign else. no combination of units will stop this from zerg.
Mostly because they cant kill marines. More corrupters means less lings and banes. Lose the fight the corruptors die anyway. Maybe you kill the medivacs but then the marines will just pound ya
The more corrupters you have, the less ling/bane you have. Ling/bane needs a critical mass to threaten a bio army, otherwise they just evaporate at the edge of the marines' range. At the end of a big engagement, you end up with a big cluster of marines and marauders at ~75% health against a flock of corruptors, so the bioball just pushes forward and smashes Zerg bases.
Corruptors are far too slow to counter medivacs. Even when micro'd, boosted medivacs can outrun them and still drop. Tech into spire costs money, corruptors cost a lot of money, and they take up supply and are otherwise useless against the rest of the bio. Mutas are almost always the better choice as they are much faster, can actually snipe some bio units, can harass SCVs, give you map control, regen out of combat, and have far greater micro potential. Zerg absolutly needs a critical mass of units to fight, if you look how terrans fight. They set up siege tanks very split and in layers, create little pockets of bio 8-20 units big, then send a small little army to go poke and engage while the rest wait idly for the zerg engage. Zerg then has to fight this army by positioning units on all sides, then collapse with all their armies at once hoping that they have a critical mass to wipe them out in one swoop whilst having enough units to offer a sacrafice to the siege tanks and widow mine gods. Otherwise the terran army will heal back up all their bio, leap frog their tanks, and recharge their widow mines and regain a lot of their strength. Zerg armies by comparison don't actually regain much strength between engagements, zerg has ravager biles and muta regen but that's about it. Ling bane is a lot worse against protoss due to these awesome units called high templar and archons which eat them for breakfast.
Mines OP... try to tell me they are not...there should be like a second long cooldown before mine starts shooting after it burrows.... it should be called microatomic bombs atm... the only difference is it is faster... What to do against it... If THEY can do nothing lol... You wanted to stop Serral, I would not be surprised lot of zergs are mad right now... I play R Sad fact is hellions suck, so its terrans only choice :D
Solar played like a fucking silver this game… so many mistakes. Running lings into death over and over, attacking some random depots when there were scvs right next to it, rallying lings over and over to the exact same place losing a bunch along the way, morphing bane lings right in front of marus face. I cringed so hard
He made a mistake for showing scvs out in the map. But solar thought bit was a mind game so he made lings thinking there is an attack. Since he made lings he had to use them and caught Maru off guard.
@@Florenciosc2 I'm only just realising now I wrote Maru when I meant Solar. Though now you explain it I'm guessing what he did was bad because there actually wasn't an attack from Maru and he cancelled his third base for spines that he didn't need.
second game shows the reason why i stopped playing after the release of void. thats not enjoyable or fair gameplay. its just stupid mine drops that can instantly cost you the game for 2 sec of not seeing it. starscraf turned so much into that kinda stuff its really offputting for more casual players.
I forgot how much the audience reactions add to the experience
its not audience but korean casters as stated in 1:09 which honestly makes it more hilarious.
I mean, if you've seen some good ass tekken a good audience can elevate a match to god tier
Yup
I remember (looooooong ago during WoL) a Zerg losing because the audience cheered whenever a nydus was being made, so the opponent would become more alert and search aggressively to find the nydus, shutting it down.
Probably the sound insulation in the player booths is better now.
@@bigsmall246 I'd be fuming lol
‘Let’s watch Solar’s face’
👁👁
👄
‘Okay poker face from Solar’
😆😆
8:40 "WHOA THAT DRONE JUST FLEW OVER THE CAMERAMAN!" LMAO!!! 🤣🤣
Even the observer tried to dodge it 😂
This is almost as bad as when Maru nuked Solar's entire army supply of Broodlords. Almost.
Stop it, he's already dead. :D
The korean casters losing their minds was just the cherry on top
@@Yan.H I have tried to look for the korean caster video but can only find the english cast version. Do you mind sharing the korean version? ;)
@@Chocosuchti After some googling, I found it.
ruclips.net/video/fyuApWqTmKM/видео.html
Enjoy the reactions :D
@@Yan.H Thanks enjoyable video hehe but was meaning the one where maru nuked solars broodlords supply =D
ruclips.net/video/G7fRMbMQVgk/видео.html&ab_channel=SC2HL
@@Chocosuchti i checked the IEM Katowice 2021 official site and the official Korean streamer for that event is someone named Crank.
This is his reaction.
ruclips.net/video/A3y92Ols_m4/видео.html
Enjoy
Lol. That beginning
C'mon Solar, engaging with slow banes, off creep, against marines? smh
Love your Brood War casts!
@@SC2HL Thanks! :) Love your channel!
@@FalconPaladin get a channel you 2.
Solar forgot he isn't playing in diamond league and that Maru knows how to stutter-step and split
I guess Solar thought he was getting all-ined when he saw the scvs (for building bunkers and repair stuff)
Solar's Maruphopbia curse...
After the nuke he took at the beginning of the year everyone would be pretty scare of Maru
@@carlosmata13 That nuke was so painful even the survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki pressed F
No **** thats exactly what the casters said :D
If you showed me this replay of the first game without the players names on it, I would have never guessed that Maru was the Terran.
Hahaha
Maru has always been known for these cheeky plays.
Remember Habitation Station float to the gold base?
You really don’t know Maru then. He’s always mixed up standard macro games with daring ideas.
@@alejandrovallejo6763 ㅈ
Watch two players’ face
Solar: Poker Face.
Maru: Still Image.
Given the IQ number you assigned, I'm going to assume that this gold base move is only half as good as what Rogue did XD
iq and thinking efficiency scales exponentially so a whole lot worse haha xd
Compare to Rogue's 600 IQ proxy hatch 2 days ago, Maru's sneaky gold base is a half-wit move, mathematically speaking.
considering these two vids are uploaded one after the other, i highly suspect it's on purpose. lol
Wait until you see serral's 1200 IQ cannon rush. He doesn't even play protoss, genius
Yeah the editors throwing shade at Maru.
Good thing about sc2 right now is that not much has changed meta wise for the last 2 years. Could watch a match without being lost.
0:35 The Korean casters going ham in the back is just too good.
Thanks SC2HL!!
Maru and Solar - great match.
watching queens chaising hellbats in whole new meta of humor!
Maru is gonna get widow mines nerfed
aaaand its nerfed
Maru is SC2 GOAT
No, he has never even made it to a Blizzcon finals. This disqualifies him IMO.
As a Zerg watching those WM drops… my heart
That one brave swarm host
hearing korean casters on a background i kinda wana watch same match in korean right now))
maybe some1 can give me a link?)
@@Minguri01 thank you
Damn my only gripe with ghosts is how they delete anything lategame zerg has, asides that amazing show of skill by Maru
I do think Ghosts need a nerf. They are just too good at everything. They do bonus damage against light, they can snipe armored units like Ultralisks and Lurkers, and then they can EMP Protoss.
you're right, Zerg lategame needs to be stronger, totally unbalanced rn
The new caster has gotten so much better
9:24 NOOO THE MONEY SHOT! DAMN YOU CAMERA MAN!
As a Zerg main, Maru is a nightmare.
He forces you to defend when you'd want to attack.
Early (3base) muta/ling/bane would be my choice vs him but one mismicro would result in a loss;
shutting down the drops w muta, counter w speedling/bane.
Letting him attack early-midgame seems like an auto-loss.
As stupid as it sounds 3spine/3spore per base could thwart him while giving an opportunity for counter. You lose ~10-20 drones per harass so it should be worth.
thinking about it 3base early muta would be too late. muta+mass static defense+queen/creep?!
if he can get value from the 1st harass it's pretty much over.
it's the first time i feel bad for a zerg player like how can u beat Maru? he is so freaking good!
Maru took one look at Terran and said, "Aight I can Zerg with this."
Ask Rogue
"this is gross"
LOL
Good Lord I forgot how terrifying Maru's micro is.
What was that third game from Solar
He lost the first two games so badly. It must feel good to be able to show what you are capable of. He’s a great player, it’s just that he was against Maru
Maru was relentless.
Terran just balanced with the jack of all trades race trait
Solar used to be Maru's kryptonite upon returning from military service. it turns out he was just rusty. Solar barely tech-ed up in this series, he was stifled.
I like how you can hear they Korean commentators screaming in the background with every engagement.
Marus so dam good! Props!
9:24 I really wanted to see that widow mine going off :(
Best way to watch Starcraft: no health bars /s
... what is that constant screaming that I can barely hear in the whole video? 😀 it's epic.
Apparently it's the Korean casters
I wanna listen to the Korean cast now !! 😭
I doubting that it was a missread, maybe at the very beggining but the amount of lings was useful to put maru in bad position
Solar put down 3 spines, i think it was a misread
Definitely misread, didn't even try to attack the gold until he scouted it much later and kept throwing down like 3 spines, cancelled then threw another one... Terrible read
Solar: I won't troll by the nuke this time.
Maru: yes.
Where's the Maru vs Serral finals? Edited out spoilers
Camera man dodged that flying drone, clean side step 8:40
And than you look to the left and see two tiny little boys....cheesus.
Zerglings OP
:)
16s of can't skip ad, what a pain
If you guys wanted to hear the Korean commentary go nuts: ruclips.net/video/fyuApWqTmKM/видео.html
Sometimes I forget how Maru is insane
Legit doing 4 drops at the same time
Reynor is going to be here for about an hour and then I’ll call him
Lmao the Korean casters instantly freaking out
I haven’t a god damn clue what is going on I have never played this game but I am having fun
can i get the ghost snipe sound effect as a message ring tone so I know I'm about to be annoyed.
Maru keep running the SCV's away from the lings when they get in, losing roughly half of them as they run... wouldn't just attacking the lings with the workers to kill them, losing even 2/3 of the workers in the process, be better?
Terran is way too overpowered
Why didn’t Solar gg at 13:40 in the second game??
Master of Solar
ghosts are so op!
Widow Mines seem fair and balanced...
And Maru is the only Terran capable of using them in this way and making them work. Maru makes all Terran units look ridiculously strong.
umm is maru even awake? wouldnt surprise me if this is how he plays in his sleep
Where are the start of the games?
Maru could've won it 3-0 there but the Korean in him let the homie get a game in so it wouldn't be so one sided
Artosis deserves to either cast alone or always be with tasteless
FOREVER THE GOAT
I feel bad for Solar. He is clearly a Maru’s punch bag.
Can someone explain like I'm 5 - why did Solar suddenly go on the defense and cancel the hatch? Obviously he was tricked in some fashion but I don't quite understand lmao
Because if Maru had actually been all-in, Solar would've lost the hatch, which is very expensive this early in the game. Canceling a building refunds you some of the resources spent building it--he spent the refunded resources building spine crawlers and zerglings.
@@rimonino so i understand cancelling giving back resources -- i guess what i don't understand is the mind game that led him to make the decision. He spots a few SCV's and 2 marines with a ling shortly before doing so, what was he concerned about?
Or i guess what made him believe Maru was all in based on what he saw?
@@dylanlokatys1560 Oh! Sorry I didn't quite pick up on what you meant, I hope I didn't sound condescending lol.
Maru has a reputation for being super cheesy at times--he's not above pulling the boys for a high-risk early game pulling the boys + bunker rush, though usually it's paired with a proxy rax. IIRC Blackburn has a lower rush distance than some of the other maps, lessening the impact of no proxy, but it was still a pretty bad misread by Solar.
For high speculation, there's a smaaaall possibility that there's a racial bias as well--if you've watched other Korean Zerg play, there are kind of a lot of early game drone pull shenanigans that go on. Even though Maru is Terran, Solar having Zerg colleagues that frequently pull the boys might lean him towards being extra wary of that happening.
Edited to add: Maru didn't intend to mindgame Solar. Solar mindgamed himself lol
@@rimonino this was what i was looking for, thanks for the rundown. Also love the phrase 'pullin the boys' lmao
Not Artosis, but the other guy who is with him sounds like he's drunk, slurring his words
hrm. why can't zerg just straight up fight terran in pitched battle? seems op to me. ghosts wreck most things. marine/tank take care of everythign else. no combination of units will stop this from zerg.
You should watch Serral play Zerg. Then Zerg looks op.
Someone who plays Zerg, please explain to me like I'm five why Zerg never build corruptors to punish Medivacs??
Mostly because they cant kill marines. More corrupters means less lings and banes. Lose the fight the corruptors die anyway. Maybe you kill the medivacs but then the marines will just pound ya
Corruptors do nothing again anything else in the terran army and then get super hard countered by ghosts.
Medivacs are medical units and according to Geneva convention, it’s forbidden to hurt or kill them
The more corrupters you have, the less ling/bane you have. Ling/bane needs a critical mass to threaten a bio army, otherwise they just evaporate at the edge of the marines' range. At the end of a big engagement, you end up with a big cluster of marines and marauders at ~75% health against a flock of corruptors, so the bioball just pushes forward and smashes Zerg bases.
Corruptors are far too slow to counter medivacs. Even when micro'd, boosted medivacs can outrun them and still drop.
Tech into spire costs money, corruptors cost a lot of money, and they take up supply and are otherwise useless against the rest of the bio.
Mutas are almost always the better choice as they are much faster, can actually snipe some bio units, can harass SCVs, give you map control, regen out of combat, and have far greater micro potential.
Zerg absolutly needs a critical mass of units to fight, if you look how terrans fight. They set up siege tanks very split and in layers, create little pockets of bio 8-20 units big, then send a small little army to go poke and engage while the rest wait idly for the zerg engage.
Zerg then has to fight this army by positioning units on all sides, then collapse with all their armies at once hoping that they have a critical mass to wipe them out in one swoop whilst having enough units to offer a sacrafice to the siege tanks and widow mine gods.
Otherwise the terran army will heal back up all their bio, leap frog their tanks, and recharge their widow mines and regain a lot of their strength.
Zerg armies by comparison don't actually regain much strength between engagements, zerg has ravager biles and muta regen but that's about it.
Ling bane is a lot worse against protoss due to these awesome units called high templar and archons which eat them for breakfast.
buck breaking moment
1st game 😂👌
First game is like OMEGAJEBAITED
More than 300 IQ from Maru this was 0 IQ from Solar lol, what a reaction
this is 200 IQ move vs 100 IQ response, rest of us are 50 IQ
Mines OP... try to tell me they are not...there should be like a second long cooldown before mine starts shooting after it burrows.... it should be called microatomic bombs atm... the only difference is it is faster... What to do against it... If THEY can do nothing lol... You wanted to stop Serral, I would not be surprised lot of zergs are mad right now... I play R Sad fact is hellions suck, so its terrans only choice :D
hahaha what a bummer
Widow mines are obscene
Anyone have a clip of the Korean casters reactions?
Solar похож на сына маминой подруги (с)
More like Solar's 30 IQ reaction
It’s not Tasteless casting anymore?
He’s on holiday back in the US!
@@SC2HL Thanksgiving yo
@@clifflenoir4323 ah right, we don’t celebrate it in Europe
@@SC2HL I can confirm. Am European too ;)
Love your highlights videos man
How many times you say "problematic"?
so, only half of Rogue's IQ?
All time PRO players Zerg or Protos lost 3/4 unit when retried. why do it?????
GG
Solar, what a bot omfg.
God I hate widow mines they just feel like so much bullshit
Sub 5 minute crew
El único en español, los veo porque soy mancisimo en el starcrasf
저그의 몰살 아 진짜
Where's tasteless
What a clickbait title, it was accidental not even intentional
Solar played like a fucking silver this game… so many mistakes. Running lings into death over and over, attacking some random depots when there were scvs right next to it, rallying lings over and over to the exact same place losing a bunch along the way, morphing bane lings right in front of marus face. I cringed so hard
300 IQ is making a mistake?
Terran just legit broken
IQ 300 my ass
So can someone explain to a SC2 noob why what Maru did at the start there was bad?
He made a mistake for showing scvs out in the map. But solar thought bit was a mind game so he made lings thinking there is an attack. Since he made lings he had to use them and caught Maru off guard.
@@Florenciosc2 I'm only just realising now I wrote Maru when I meant Solar. Though now you explain it I'm guessing what he did was bad because there actually wasn't an attack from Maru and he cancelled his third base for spines that he didn't need.
second game shows the reason why i stopped playing after the release of void.
thats not enjoyable or fair gameplay.
its just stupid mine drops that can instantly cost you the game for 2 sec of not seeing it. starscraf turned so much into that kinda stuff its really offputting for more casual players.
What is the sound in the background? It irretating as hell
Hi
Wait what??? Why si the audience shouting as if they are protestors?
This is no iq, only practice, maru maybe have 30iq, this is not bad for play like this. Try to understand bro
300 IQ? No such thing. You kids and these titles. Sheesh.
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