It's a shame Mike didn't see the Substance because I would have loved to see more in depth talk about some of the later scenes, I hope they do a Half in the Bag for it
I don't think he's that crazy about body horror stuff. And since the plot itself is not particularly fresh or interesting (besides the fact it's almost poetic how a younger, more beautiful version of you would treat YOU like crap) it would probably be just a "meh."
The worst part of Trap is they try to pass him off as charming everyone, but he’s never charming at all. He just acts creepy and extremely suspicious the whole time.
I wanted the fake out to be the husband is the helper and the real twist is the wife is the killer. Unfortunately it wasn’t a real movie, it was commercial for his daughter’s music career.
Honestly I respect M. Night's shameless hustle here. Yeah the movie is an extended, self-financed advert for his daughter's music career. Sounds like a great dad to me! (Also underwriting his other daughter's directorial efforts with "The Watchers," which was far worse than Trap.)
@@catastropheoverclocki mean, you say ideally, but it doesn't happen always, to say the least. Sometimes filmmakers kinda don't know what they're trying to do themselves, they miss the theme, they miss the idea
The dumbest thing about Trap is that you can't just prevent 10k people from leaving an arena to try to catch one guy. They even bring up that if someone pulls the fire alarm they still won't let people leave like wtf that would be a billion dollar class action lawsuit.
It was an FBI operation, if I remember correctly. They could absolutely trample everyone's civil rights, endanger thousands, and get away with it. Would they do that for a single serial killer? I doubt it, but the film doesn't bother explaining itself, just sprints full speed ahead throws logistics and legalities out the window.
Yk I read this comment three times. The first time I read it and thought nothing of it. The second time I started to understand. Yes, the Diddy Party. The third time is when I realized the brilliance in its simplicity. The "Diddy Party", I can see it now, but what would it be? A24 or Mubi? Would the horror be silly, sad, or sick and mad? Who would produce it and where would it land? So many questions left in the wind like sand.
I've always said that the Nepo Baby thing doesn't bother me unless it is the parent forcing their kids upon the audience. Like I don't give a shit that Andie McDowell's daughter is in The Substance, because she's not playing the younger, hotter version of her mom. M. Night forcing the audience to listen to ten minutes of his daughter's singing is the absolute peak of awful Nepo Baby bullshit.
honestly thats most of his movies. i remember watching Signs after hearing about it for years in 2012 and thought it was a great comedy cuz it made me laugh so much with how silly it would be
@@TVindustries5000if you argument is the most annoying one about Signs: humans don’t go places that are dangerous for themselves to gather resources like? Why wouldn’t aliens? Tremendous film, get over it.
my proudest moment is that i was in Toronto for a conference last year, and took lots of photos of fake FBI vehicles and stuff...turns out it was all for the filming of Trap
Yeah same don't get the love for Oddity at all. Boring and doesn't go anywhere, I like those kinda slow burn movies but it was not scary at any point. The First Omen, Speak No Evil, The Substance are all superior imo.
My Trap rewrite was thus: They should've kept the initial premise of "criminal trapped in concert while the cops close in", where we know that the main character is a criminal... but the twist is that he's not the Butcher. It then becomes his task to identify and reveal who the Butcher is so that the cops leave before he gets caught and inspected, so you'd have this cat-and-mouse game between the two crims and the law enforcement.
In Trap the smartest character is "only clever if everyone else is dumb" because the smartest character is written by Shyamalan. Which really puts a cap on the overall intelligence of the world.
I can tell you why the tv show in The Substance is an aerobic show. In France there was a short period of time in the 80's when an aerobic show was a tv hit. It was called Gym Tonic. The end credit was the two female presenters taking a shower, nude. There is absolutely no doubt Coralie Fargeat saw that show growing up in France.
@@flosa3747 is there ever even a smartphone in the movie ? the only phone usage i can think of is the guy writing his number down on a physical piece of paper , and elisabeth making multiple phone calls from a landline
@@cameronwebb5621i dont think there was anything to suggest it took place at any point other than modern day , but i dont think anything happened in the movie that would actually nail it down in any time period past the 70s
@@yaboi3339 there is, i dont remeber the scene but it stood out because as the OP said, the movie is very obtuse about the time setting with all kinds of gimmicks of the different eras
I think they tried to make her look much younger. The actress/singer is 28. I got the impression they were trying to portray Lady Raven as maybe 20? Or maybe she's just got that uncanny look idk.
I liked how Trap just uses the Friday 13th method and completely ignores the impossibility of some feats. Like the limo escape into the crowd is identical to Jason only being seen walking but somehow appearing ahead of characters running away from him. It doesn't matter how he escaped the limo. It only matters that it happened and the chase continues, the plot pushes onward and will not stop to answer your questions, so sit back and have fun.
"I Saw the TV Glow is up for interpretation. It's not beating you over the head." The movie has the trans flag colors appear in several shots, crosscutting between the lead of the film and the female lead of the show, and there's chalk grafitti telling the lead "There Is Still Time." It couldn't be more in your face if John Wick shot it at you.
Agreed, it's very obviously a story about the American experience as a trans person. Besides the heavy use of the colors of the trans flag the entire plot is about someone believing that they're in the wrong body.
39:15 "I don't want to give away the plot" - Dude, we had to suffer through like 4 different SNE trailers from April through August that explained the entire movie
as a trans woman i absolutely loved i saw the tv glow, and after seeing a bunch of not queer people just fail to get anything from it, it makes me so happy that mike and jay weren’t so close minded that they felt negatively about the movie. ❤ you rlm
@@abavariannormiepleb9470 no I haven't but in the 90s I was in my heyday from 18 to 26. So the Spice Girls were a big part of my life I do love them. At least the music.
Agreed once you accept and see that it’s not really meant to be full blown horror it really comes together, a rewatch really helped me to see clearly what it was intended to be.
The Substance is indeed the gift that keeps on giving. It has excellent inspirations within, but a unique voice and some of the best practical effects and thematic work I’ve seen through a horror in ages. It can’t be missed and is better with a crowd.
The Pig director taking on a Quiet Place "prequel" really reminds me of when Mike Flanagan did a Ouija prequel. Literally no one gave a shit about a prequel to Ouija and then this great director comes in an elevates the material.
I couldn't disagree more on The Substance. As a non native English speaker, I learned the term "on the nose" from repeated use in your reviews (used again in this episode). I'm surprised it didn't come up in your discussion of The Substance. One of Jay's trademarked "GET IT?!" would not have felt out of place either.
The original Speak No Evil was one of the most horrific and upsetting films I've ever seen. The American remake was directed by James Watkins, who made another movie, Eden Lake, which is also one of the most upsetting films I've ever seen. His remake was fantastic because (while doing his own spin on certain scenes from the 2022 version) he smartly decided to go full-on black comedy with it. Moments that were horrifying in the original are played up for laughs. It's surprisingly good. The 2022 film is infinitely better though. Surprised Jay hasn't seen it, he would love it. Watch both, they're distinctly different.
@@charlottecorday8494 Eden Lake is fucking brutal. O' Connell is terrifying in that role. I liked Speak no Evil, it was fun in a good way, but the original is more disturbing. McAvoy steals the movie as usual.
He's not the only one. It's very common in other discussions. I think the 3rd act has a brief sequence that leads people to think that they're separate characters but like Jay said, it's not literal. The whole movie is a blunt metaphor.
Spoilers below ***** Yes, the message "you are one" is said multiple times, but how do you account for the fact that Elizabeth/Sue don't feel that way? Certainly if they were the same consciousness, then they would know it, right? Yet they have to be told (multiple times) that they "are one" when they call up to complain about their counterpart. It certainly seems like Sue discovers the mess that Elizabeth leaves as though she didn't expect it. I think the "you are one" works for the metaphor, but that they do not share consciousness on the literal level. I will say that the third act actually confuses this when the final form pleads "It's me Sue! It's me Elizabeth!"
Yeah, exactly. Sue bent the rules because that's what Elizabeth would do if the roles were reversed. I feel like that is the most interesting aspect of the movie. This becomes so clear when Elizabeth is calling the company and complaining about how Sue is not respecting the balance. They are both the same selfish persons.
You're wrong. The two characters in the substance share a consciousness. It's an extreme version of night you drinking and morning you dealing with the hangover except this is two versions of you separated by decades.
Yeah they make a point in the movie several times to say “there is no her and you, you are the same person”. The lines do blur but it’s definitely Demi Moore’s consciousness the whole time
Thanks for saying it! I think it's an incredibly important part of the movie that there's no other, it's just her, all the time. All the ill will towards the other is just another representation of Sue's self-loathing
But in the end they do become two different people. She pretty much cloned her consciousness in the younger body. That's the poetic way to manifest her shallowness and self-hatred.
The movie trap feels like a movie version of the game Hitman. He puts on disguises and stuff and all the NPC's are really stupid. I'd enjoyed it for that reason.
I've made just about everyone in my life watch the Substance. All I do is talk about the Substance. I think I'm going to be disowned by my parents but I don't care I am a one-man the Substance marketing team
whoops! calling elizabeth and sue "different and independently-minded characters" is an uncharacteristic miss from jay. they're one consciousness. thinking they're actually seperate characters is missing the point of a pretty vital part of the movie
Indeed. That is what makes it work. It would have been so easy to just play it off as separate people, but it being portrayed as one in the same as a bit of a showcase of aspects of yourself you probably wouldn't want to admit you have. Added a whole more interesting layer for me.
He was explaining it to Mike, he probably just meant that it wasn't as if the consciousness was swapping unbroken and perfectly aware. I assume it's kind of a spoiler and it would confuse his explanation.
22:55 RLM has been so traumatized by audio corruption/issues that you can see their two main editors in this moment check their mics. I have seen them do it many times individually, but it is hilarious to me to watch Mike double check his, and then Jay notice and immediately check his own. Possibly a nervous tic to add to your RLM drinking game.
More than anything for me, in spite of how strong the performances are, between the feeling of the threat of these monsters being less and less credible as the movies go on and that even the gimmick of utilizing silence is beginning to feel trite and "been there, done that", it's really just showing it simply has little to offer that's interesting now.
@@motherplayer well said. Acting is good and I liked the idea of someone in a scenario like this, who isn’t afraid to die, but still wants one more good day. Just felt like it got bogged down into generic drama, so without interesting kills or monster scenes, what are we left with?
I’m hoping they mention how Haley Mills is only seen speaking on camera once in Trap. I get the sense she was too elderly to get through full scenes on set…
I'm sure we'll eventually learn there's a deleted scene in trap where he has an invisibly cloak of some kind. That will at least explain how he causes the explosion at the snack shack without being seen and getting out of the car disguised as a fan while everyone is looking at it.
Just in time for the Halloween season.
In fact they are early for the fast approaching next Halloween
Setting up the table for Thanksgiving dinner...watching them finish up their Halloween list
finally, we can celebrate Halloween.
The intro is accurate. There's only candy corn and a pumpkin left after the first week of November.
Merry Christmas!
I'm looking forward to The Substance 2, where an aging Brad Pitt uses the substance to spawn Rich Evans.
as a kuato?
It's a shame Mike didn't see the Substance because I would have loved to see more in depth talk about some of the later scenes, I hope they do a Half in the Bag for it
I don't think he's that crazy about body horror stuff. And since the plot itself is not particularly fresh or interesting (besides the fact it's almost poetic how a younger, more beautiful version of you would treat YOU like crap) it would probably be just a "meh."
@@Gustavo_PerezRamirez right so anyway I hope we hear Mike’s take on it and not some fan’s projection agreeing with himself lol
Probably more likely to get a review in 30 years with Jay and Jack than a HITB on it
I'm not a body horror guy, but I was hoping for a half in the bag for the Substance. It's batshit insane.
"...into a non-stop orgy of violence"
You can practically see Jay's ears prick up
The worst part of Trap is they try to pass him off as charming everyone, but he’s never charming at all. He just acts creepy and extremely suspicious the whole time.
38:26 - The original Speak No Evil is about 80% in English since the Danish protagonists are visiting Dutch characters.
Hearing Mike and Jay say the word "shoegaze" has improved my life considerably.
Lmao, timestamp ?
46:28
Are they referring to My Bloody Valentine (1981)?
it feels somehow out of place, like those AI videos with Obama, Biden and Trump playing Minecraft
RLM is the shoegaze of film reviews
I wanted the fake out to be the husband is the helper and the real twist is the wife is the killer. Unfortunately it wasn’t a real movie, it was commercial for his daughter’s music career.
When I saw the trailer, I assumed the daughter was the killer and he was scrambling to protect her. I figured that was the "Shyamalan twist"
My protip for predicting twist endings is to try to find the moral of the story, the twist will reinforce that moral
Honestly I respect M. Night's shameless hustle here. Yeah the movie is an extended, self-financed advert for his daughter's music career. Sounds like a great dad to me! (Also underwriting his other daughter's directorial efforts with "The Watchers," which was far worse than Trap.)
@@catastropheoverclock What was the moral here? Don’t try to shove your family down the audience’s throats?
@@catastropheoverclocki mean, you say ideally, but it doesn't happen always, to say the least. Sometimes filmmakers kinda don't know what they're trying to do themselves, they miss the theme, they miss the idea
I love that Wish Upon is the new standard for inept, laughably bad horror
They still haven't topped it. Truth or Dare was kinda close though.
The dumbest thing about Trap is that you can't just prevent 10k people from leaving an arena to try to catch one guy. They even bring up that if someone pulls the fire alarm they still won't let people leave like wtf that would be a billion dollar class action lawsuit.
Not to mention the fact that crowded venues like that can result in a crowd crush, even when there aren't people blocking the exits
It was an FBI operation, if I remember correctly. They could absolutely trample everyone's civil rights, endanger thousands, and get away with it. Would they do that for a single serial killer? I doubt it, but the film doesn't bother explaining itself, just sprints full speed ahead throws logistics and legalities out the window.
The nazis did it
It’s pretty dumb to trap 10k innocent people in with a faceless mass murderer too.
@@Basshead004crowd crush is the real horror!
I have never seen Jay happier than when he was talking about The Substance.
"Diddy Party" is actually a great name for a horror movie.
Yk I read this comment three times. The first time I read it and thought nothing of it. The second time I started to understand. Yes, the Diddy Party. The third time is when I realized the brilliance in its simplicity. The "Diddy Party", I can see it now, but what would it be? A24 or Mubi? Would the horror be silly, sad, or sick and mad? Who would produce it and where would it land? So many questions left in the wind like sand.
"1000 bottles of lube enter, no bottle leaves." Got your tagline 😂
only if you have to be the one that holds the egg :(
DiddyMan, DiddyMan, DiddyMa… 🧴 🧴🧴🧴🧴🧴🧴🧴🧴🧴🧴🧴🧴🧴
@@jacobp8294
Come to Diddy City…
"Lynchian without feeling derivative" - Bravo, Jay. 10/10. No notes.
Its David with out the repetitive. Its Keith without the familiar.
I described "Trap" to a friend of mine as the equivalent of Rebecca Black's vanity music video "Friday," but in feature film format.
I've always said that the Nepo Baby thing doesn't bother me unless it is the parent forcing their kids upon the audience. Like I don't give a shit that Andie McDowell's daughter is in The Substance, because she's not playing the younger, hotter version of her mom. M. Night forcing the audience to listen to ten minutes of his daughter's singing is the absolute peak of awful Nepo Baby bullshit.
Trap was absolutely deliberate. That was the Shyamalan twist! You thought you were about to see a thriller but instead you got a parody.
honestly thats most of his movies. i remember watching Signs after hearing about it for years in 2012 and thought it was a great comedy cuz it made me laugh so much with how silly it would be
@@TVindustries5000if you argument is the most annoying one about Signs: humans don’t go places that are dangerous for themselves to gather resources like? Why wouldn’t aliens? Tremendous film, get over it.
@@macheetah49brilliant comeback
Miles better than Blink Twice.
😂
@@macheetah49tremendous!
my proudest moment is that i was in Toronto for a conference last year, and took lots of photos of fake FBI vehicles and stuff...turns out it was all for the filming of Trap
It's good to see Jay's finally out of prison
Don't get too excited, he's only on parole. Won't last long.
Mike’s criticism on the diner is valid: if it doesn’t feel “lived in” it can take you out of the movie.
absolutely. In a movie like that the diner is a character also. They did a poor job of fleshing out the "character". Still a decent flick otherwise
After seeing Trap, I was convinced M. Night Shymalan had discovered Dexter two years ago and began writing this movie.
I wanna go to a Rich Evans party and I'm bringing the baby oil.
Look out rich has Aaaaaaaaaaaasburgers
I've been to one. Butter was used instead of baby oil.
I'll bring my George Foreskin Grill to celebrate Dick the Birthday Boy
Bring it? He already has it
You don’t need to go to a Rich Evans party
The Rich Evans Party was in your heart all along
The Substance stayed with me more than any horror film I've seen this year.
Yeah same don't get the love for Oddity at all. Boring and doesn't go anywhere, I like those kinda slow burn movies but it was not scary at any point. The First Omen, Speak No Evil, The Substance are all superior imo.
I heard Rich Evans is being considered for the US Secretary of Health because he knows so much about AAAAAAAIIIIIIDDDDS!!!
Ive heard that they might pass on him as hes over qualified
Sorry but no, we don‘t want overqualified overachievers who don’t even have brainworms in our government.
he’s got more qualifications than Rfk jr 😂
@@danielbarrero2815Not enough brainworms tho.
Wow, they sure like hiring men for that position!
My Trap rewrite was thus: They should've kept the initial premise of "criminal trapped in concert while the cops close in", where we know that the main character is a criminal... but the twist is that he's not the Butcher. It then becomes his task to identify and reveal who the Butcher is so that the cops leave before he gets caught and inspected, so you'd have this cat-and-mouse game between the two crims and the law enforcement.
In Trap the smartest character is "only clever if everyone else is dumb" because the smartest character is written by Shyamalan. Which really puts a cap on the overall intelligence of the world.
Diner Nepotism is the most Mid-West phrase I've ever heard.
I always like reading the description info. Whomever writes that; high five, you win.
It's Mike. It's always Mike.
what the fuck?!! when did that start???? am i gonna have to rewatch every single video just to double check the description!? i’m going to anyway :)
@@domiepotatoevery video yes lol, dude is hilarious
I cant say for sure but it feels like Mike.
Are we sure it's not Rich?
I can tell you why the tv show in The Substance is an aerobic show. In France there was a short period of time in the 80's when an aerobic show was a tv hit. It was called Gym Tonic. The end credit was the two female presenters taking a shower, nude. There is absolutely no doubt Coralie Fargeat saw that show growing up in France.
That's interesting! I think she singled out Jane Fonda's exercise tapes as an influence but a local/regional influence for her would make sense too.
I loved how intentionally ambiguous the setting was in The Substance. I couldn't place the decade. It was like a mash ofr 70s, 80s, 90s.
with smartphones
It's extremely obvious it takes place in modern day.
@@flosa3747 is there ever even a smartphone in the movie ? the only phone usage i can think of is the guy writing his number down on a physical piece of paper , and elisabeth making multiple phone calls from a landline
@@cameronwebb5621i dont think there was anything to suggest it took place at any point other than modern day , but i dont think anything happened in the movie that would actually nail it down in any time period past the 70s
@@yaboi3339 there is, i dont remeber the scene but it stood out because as the OP said, the movie is very obtuse about the time setting with all kinds of gimmicks of the different eras
I love how upon finishing "The Substance" my first thought was "Perverted? Creepy? Disgusting?" Jay is gonna love this!!!
Shyamalan's daughter is like an AI amalgamation of Billie Eyelash and Anya Furiosa.
M night is morphing into Kevin Smith
Did they digitally give her anime eyes?
Something is wrong
Which is saying something bc Anya Furiosa is an AI amalgamation to begin with.
She looks identical to Woah, Vickey
She’s ugho
It’s crazy how much of Trap is just a concert film his daughter.
"You want to listen to my daughter's music?"
Me: Not really.
"What if I put it in a terrible movie?"
Then mike comes in and says: sold
@geovani60624 😆
“Trap” was such a clown show. When Hayley Mills tazers Hartnett, I laughed until I was in pain. A movie moment I never knew I needed…
Rich Evans ❤
Love him
Slayer!
RIP?
Rest in peperoni
Dick the Birthday Boy
Did they edit Shyamalan's daughter's face in the movie? She looks like she has an instagram filter on her face the entire time
Its a lot of makeup
What I thought. She looks really weird.
I think they tried to make her look much younger. The actress/singer is 28. I got the impression they were trying to portray Lady Raven as maybe 20? Or maybe she's just got that uncanny look idk.
I also noticed the weirdly synthetic looking flesh
I heard they applied her foundation with a shotgun, You know to get it in her poor's
I liked how Trap just uses the Friday 13th method and completely ignores the impossibility of some feats. Like the limo escape into the crowd is identical to Jason only being seen walking but somehow appearing ahead of characters running away from him. It doesn't matter how he escaped the limo. It only matters that it happened and the chase continues, the plot pushes onward and will not stop to answer your questions, so sit back and have fun.
Well sit back, at least
Watching the Substance had me like: "Oh, ok. So now Troma movies win Cannes!"
I enjoyed it because ass and tiddys
mike and jay finally delve into the trans experience
and it was nice.
TRAP sounds like one long Mentos Commercial.
Do do do do do do do do... DOAAHHHH
"I Saw the TV Glow is up for interpretation. It's not beating you over the head."
The movie has the trans flag colors appear in several shots, crosscutting between the lead of the film and the female lead of the show, and there's chalk grafitti telling the lead "There Is Still Time." It couldn't be more in your face if John Wick shot it at you.
Their fetish must take front and center at ALL times.
Agreed, it's very obviously a story about the American experience as a trans person. Besides the heavy use of the colors of the trans flag the entire plot is about someone believing that they're in the wrong body.
18:53 Last straw should've been called "Too Many Cooks"
10th Anniversary of "Too Many Cooks"! It takes a lot to make a stew!
39:15 "I don't want to give away the plot" - Dude, we had to suffer through like 4 different SNE trailers from April through August that explained the entire movie
as a trans woman i absolutely loved i saw the tv glow, and after seeing a bunch of not queer people just fail to get anything from it, it makes me so happy that mike and jay weren’t so close minded that they felt negatively about the movie. ❤ you rlm
Glad to see you here :^) 💗💗
“Mikes studio notes” is quality 90 day fiancé style spinoff material.
Trap was one of the most stupid films I've seen in my entire 48 years of living on this planet, but I liked it. I know, I need help.
Have you seen the Spice Girls movie from the mid 90s?
@@abavariannormiepleb9470 no I haven't but in the 90s I was in my heyday from 18 to 26. So the Spice Girls were a big part of my life I do love them. At least the music.
Trap was fun. Silly, but fun.
Same! Ridiculous as all hell but entertaining, lol.
Stupid yet fun is often the best type of movie.
As the biggest Trap defender… that film is the best comedy I’ve seen in a decade
Agreed once you accept and see that it’s not really meant to be full blown horror it really comes together, a rewatch really helped me to see clearly what it was intended to be.
it honestly feels more thriller than horror, even if it is super ridiculous, and an obvious Hitchcock imitation
THE BATMAN mentioned, obviously a review must be coming up in the next HitB
The Substance is indeed the gift that keeps on giving. It has excellent inspirations within, but a unique voice and some of the best practical effects and thematic work I’ve seen through a horror in ages. It can’t be missed and is better with a crowd.
The Pig director taking on a Quiet Place "prequel" really reminds me of when Mike Flanagan did a Ouija prequel.
Literally no one gave a shit about a prequel to Ouija and then this great director comes in an elevates the material.
Only difference (but it's major) is that people actually like the Quiet Place movies to begin with
@Bruester True. Literally no one liked the first Ouija 😂
I forgot there was even a second one
@Bruester they liked the first one.
@@Bruesterthat’s debatable
did they put a beauty filter over only m nights daughter's face the whole time?
Nobody from Blumhouse is watching, Mike.
I couldn't disagree more on The Substance. As a non native English speaker, I learned the term "on the nose" from repeated use in your reviews (used again in this episode). I'm surprised it didn't come up in your discussion of The Substance. One of Jay's trademarked "GET IT?!" would not have felt out of place either.
First movie on the best of list: "embarrassingly stupid." Perfect way to start.
The original Speak No Evil was one of the most horrific and upsetting films I've ever seen. The American remake was directed by James Watkins, who made another movie, Eden Lake, which is also one of the most upsetting films I've ever seen. His remake was fantastic because (while doing his own spin on certain scenes from the 2022 version) he smartly decided to go full-on black comedy with it. Moments that were horrifying in the original are played up for laughs.
It's surprisingly good. The 2022 film is infinitely better though. Surprised Jay hasn't seen it, he would love it. Watch both, they're distinctly different.
Also bonus points for McAvoy playing the father😁
It is SHOCKING people don't talk about Eden Lake more. That movie is pure nightmare fuel.
@@charlottecorday8494 Eden Lake is fucking brutal. O' Connell is terrifying in that role. I liked Speak no Evil, it was fun in a good way, but the original is more disturbing. McAvoy steals the movie as usual.
I think my favourite thing about RLM videos is unrelated images. They're so beautifully unrelated.
Not shown: Jay’s basement haircut adventure starring Rich Evans
I’m going to an Interview soon. So thanks for uploading this out of no where👍🏾
Good luck with your interview 😎
Good luck😊
I liked Trap. It was stupid fun.
Jay apparently missed the “you are one” part of ‘The Substance’ which the viewers were hit over the head with at least 20 times
He's not the only one. It's very common in other discussions. I think the 3rd act has a brief sequence that leads people to think that they're separate characters but like Jay said, it's not literal. The whole movie is a blunt metaphor.
Yeah I was surprised by that, pretty big part of the movie
What would even be the point of the substance if she wasn’t actively both people? lol
Spoilers below
*****
Yes, the message "you are one" is said multiple times, but how do you account for the fact that Elizabeth/Sue don't feel that way? Certainly if they were the same consciousness, then they would know it, right? Yet they have to be told (multiple times) that they "are one" when they call up to complain about their counterpart. It certainly seems like Sue discovers the mess that Elizabeth leaves as though she didn't expect it.
I think the "you are one" works for the metaphor, but that they do not share consciousness on the literal level.
I will say that the third act actually confuses this when the final form pleads "It's me Sue! It's me Elizabeth!"
Yeah, exactly. Sue bent the rules because that's what Elizabeth would do if the roles were reversed. I feel like that is the most interesting aspect of the movie. This becomes so clear when Elizabeth is calling the company and complaining about how Sue is not respecting the balance. They are both the same selfish persons.
Ain’t no party like a Half in the Bag party!
If Mike took the substance Rich Evans would pop out of his back.
“Is this a horror film or just a disgusting drama?” may be one of my new favorite Jay quotes.
You're wrong. The two characters in the substance share a consciousness. It's an extreme version of night you drinking and morning you dealing with the hangover except this is two versions of you separated by decades.
I uh….yeah alright
Yeah they make a point in the movie several times to say “there is no her and you, you are the same person”. The lines do blur but it’s definitely Demi Moore’s consciousness the whole time
Thanks for saying it! I think it's an incredibly important part of the movie that there's no other, it's just her, all the time. All the ill will towards the other is just another representation of Sue's self-loathing
But in the end they do become two different people. She pretty much cloned her consciousness in the younger body. That's the poetic way to manifest her shallowness and self-hatred.
I think the twist in Trap is that Sham doesn't actually have a daughter in real life. That thing hails from the Uncanney Valley.
The movie trap feels like a movie version of the game Hitman. He puts on disguises and stuff and all the NPC's are really stupid. I'd enjoyed it for that reason.
5:52 Jay had a Rich Evans moment
Thanks guys needed this today
Rich evans knows all about them daddy parties 🗣️🗣️💯
the funniest part of these is listening to the guys come up with better plots and scene structures on the fly
I'm so glad to see Oddity and Caveat mentioned. I'm excited to see what that director does next.
You guys kind of sold me on Trap. It looks like dumb fun
The Substance isn't just a sledgehammer, it's a monster wearing a picture of Demi Moore's face.
I've made just about everyone in my life watch the Substance. All I do is talk about the Substance. I think I'm going to be disowned by my parents but I don't care I am a one-man the Substance marketing team
what if you gave Rich Evans the Substance?
whoops! calling elizabeth and sue "different and independently-minded characters" is an uncharacteristic miss from jay. they're one consciousness. thinking they're actually seperate characters is missing the point of a pretty vital part of the movie
Jay confirmed Chud
@@3RNR3 damn... i didn't want it to be true...
Indeed. That is what makes it work. It would have been so easy to just play it off as separate people, but it being portrayed as one in the same as a bit of a showcase of aspects of yourself you probably wouldn't want to admit you have. Added a whole more interesting layer for me.
I think the 3rd act but where *spoiler*
They're both awake for a bit throws a lot of people off on that point.
He was explaining it to Mike, he probably just meant that it wasn't as if the consciousness was swapping unbroken and perfectly aware. I assume it's kind of a spoiler and it would confuse his explanation.
thanks for listening to me and putting out something new. if you keep this up you boys are up for a promotion!
22:55 RLM has been so traumatized by audio corruption/issues that you can see their two main editors in this moment check their mics. I have seen them do it many times individually, but it is hilarious to me to watch Mike double check his, and then Jay notice and immediately check his own. Possibly a nervous tic to add to your RLM drinking game.
Now this year's Halloween is complete!
Perfect timing, i just began doomscrolling. Thanks fellas!
Jay praising a monster movie for not being a monster movie and more a predicable drama is such a Jay move
More than anything for me, in spite of how strong the performances are, between the feeling of the threat of these monsters being less and less credible as the movies go on and that even the gimmick of utilizing silence is beginning to feel trite and "been there, done that", it's really just showing it simply has little to offer that's interesting now.
@@motherplayer well said. Acting is good and I liked the idea of someone in a scenario like this, who isn’t afraid to die, but still wants one more good day. Just felt like it got bogged down into generic drama, so without interesting kills or monster scenes, what are we left with?
The Substance would’ve been better if it was a tight 88 mins
It overstays its welcome for about half an hour.
Still ignoring that London After Midnight remake.
Great deep dive on Tales From The Crypt, Jay.
I really needed this! Thank you ❤
What about THIS?? (the new indie horror movie named "This") (I understand they're developing a sequel named "That")
The duoligy will simply be referred to as "These" going forward
@@simonbehrendt-n4whow bout Deez
A silver lining to end a horrible week. Thanks RLM
Lol, simp is a little on the nose but still a fitting alias to go by. Did you make a cry video to post online too?
What happened this week?
@@jokerz7936 Oh, I stubbed my toe and it smarts real bad.
40:40 when you find out Mike edited this one.
Can't wait for parts 3 - 87!
I’m hoping they mention how Haley Mills is only seen speaking on camera once in Trap. I get the sense she was too elderly to get through full scenes on set…
I suspect the description to this video was written by Mike
Been waiting to see you guys go over The Substance, what a rollercoaster. Haven't seen anything like it and I loved it
Rich Evans mysteriously absent
Tooo late, it's November, we're into Christmas Cheer now, horror isn't scary anymore!
Jay: "I dont think a movie has ever been recommended to me as often as The Substance"
...But have you seen The Substance?
Sex pervert Jay Bauman is recommended a sex pervert movie.
I literally can't wait until The Batman finally drops in 2029, hopefully then we can get a video on it
That's right, Jay.
500 people recommended The Substance because it's brilliant! (I saw it four times so far.)
I'm sure we'll eventually learn there's a deleted scene in trap where he has an invisibly cloak of some kind. That will at least explain how he causes the explosion at the snack shack without being seen and getting out of the car disguised as a fan while everyone is looking at it.
The perfect birthday gift - thank you!!
С днем рождения, брат или сестра! Желаю счастья, здоровья, семейного благополучия!
Happy birthday 🎂
@mrnomore666 thank you kindly 😄🙏
Happy birthday, dude.
@@luciuswhite4502 Thank you so much mate! 😄🙏
The third her at the end of the substance was the funniest thing I’ve ever seen in my life