Rob, I am an IPSC shooter with more than 250.000 shots. Trust me, I always learn something with your videos. At least you make me think about important matters even when you talk about a basic matter as the grip and recoil. Thanks
@@jpradasdiez thanks so much for taking the time to watch and comment! I'm glad you're getting value out of it, and I'd I can ever help feel free to ask questions anytime!
I’ve honestly been working on grip since last December- RUclips, forums, training and I have come full circle picking up pieces here and there and confirming in live fire and back to dry fire, over and over again. Finally I’m in a place the gun is behaving in a way that’s predictable and I kid you not it’s all the pieces working together in this video. This video is really put together well 👏
This is amazing to hear! So glad that these are all working well for you :) This is actually from my online Accelerator program too, we have 164 members and growing fast! We're currently taking applications for new students too www.robepifania.net/level-up-in-8-weeks
I have been planning on shooting my first local match this summer, and I must say this is 1 of the best easiest videos on grip I have watched, and I have been through 100s.
Excellent! Thanks for the comment! You can also try applying pressure at an angle into the palm if you can't get the right position in the hand without trigger reach issues 😁
Hello Rob, thanks for your investment for us trying to learn and improve technique and effective efficiency!!! Please define or explain what you meant @ 0:43 in the vid. Referring to "feet offset". Does this mean, rotation of feet outward or placement of one foot ahead of the other? Or simply ankles relaxed with proper weight bearing with butt out? Thank you for your help!!!
Thanks for asking as I'm sure others might have had this too! I meant physical foot offset forward/Backward. I typically tell people that are right handed "Left heel Right toe" to represent what might be a good offset. This will vary from person to person though 😁
Good stuff. I can’t remember where I heard it but someone said with your firing hand, your firing hand grip pressure should be like a “I want the job” handshake at most. Your support hand should be like you’re the a-hole that is purposely trying to break someones hand in a handshake to compete for the alpha male spot. It sounds funny, but that made it click in my head and improved my grip and minimized dot movement on the trigger pull and really helped mitigate muzzle rise.
The fact that it's funny helps you remember it which is awesome! I often demonstrate the minimum pressure necessary and refer to it as the wet noodle handshake lol people hate it hahaha
@@robepifania I’ve only been shooting regularly for a couple years now. I don’t compete at all. I’m just a self-defense minded every day carrier. But when I decided to do that I knew I wanted to take as many classes as I could and train and practice as often as I could. I really want to be proficient and efficient. In other words an asset and not a liability. It took me a long time for the grip pressure thing to sink in. But once it did, it really helped me improve. You have some really good content! Just subbed!
@@CitizenCarrier Awesome and yes I agree! Thanks so much for your time and attention! Check out the FREE lesson series too that I have for people on my email list - I think you'll find a lot of additional value aside from what's on this YT page :) www.robepifania.net/free-drills Feel free to reach out anytime with questions or comments!
Rob I saw your name near the top of the ACE XR VR leader boards. I just wanted to know your opinion on it's value as a training tool. I've found your videos on here incredibly valuable in my quest to improve in USPSA so I really value your opinion
Thanks for commenting and for the question! So I typically don't like to recommend many tools unless it continues to get you training - BUT I've found this exceptionally useful and it seems to be delivering results for me as well. In particular I like a few things: 1 - you get dot lift which allows you to call shots off of that. 2 - you get immediate feedback on your performance. I don't find it to be perfect in all cases, but its largely good enough to give you proper feedback in regards to shot calling 3 - moving target training is EXCEPTIONALLY useful because we get that feedback and not everyone has swingers and movers to train with 4 - the leader board is a perfect way to experiment with "deliberate play" principles, essentially challenging you to figure out how to get higher on the leaderboard. I really dig this system, and I will continue to be using it going forward to supplement and even replace some or most of my dryfire!
@@robepifania I follow your RUclips so when I saw your name I felt compelled to ask. Thanks so much for the quick & insightful response! Hopefully one day I get to squad with you at a match or train with you. Much respect!
@Mdsub101 I do my best to help others man! You're always welcome to reach out with questions 😁 Feel free to check out the free lesson series if you haven't already! www.robepifania.net/free-drills
@@robepifania I started USPSA last fall. I'm in C class now. I just got my brother in law into it & I've shared your videos on dryfire with him. He saw immediate improvement in his grip & shot groups. I'll check out the online class. Thanks again!
It's important to know the kind of stuff you are messing up when shooting classifiers at your current level. Honest self appraisal and observations of others is key. As well as video review
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! The questions I'd first ask are: - what is your current classification? - What do you feel you do WELL, and what do you feel needs some attention? - What division are you shooting? Make sure to grab the free lesson series because those will give some shooting fundamentals and gun handling skills that will help your classification for sure! You can find them here - www.robepifania.net/free-drills
I'd agree very much with this - while we can put broad cookie cutter answers into most people, having a specific answer tailored to the person is much more helpful!
I'm quite slim. I keep my butt forward to keep that weight above my feet, being mindful of my lean. Slight butt out makes more sense if there is a bit more weight to go around imo. What do you think about rotating elbows neutral/down? Does this give the opposite effect at least under recoil compared to upwards rotation? I get more connection at the lower end of the grips having the elbows down. Not easy finding a range to film oneself. Lots of food for thought. I'm trying to entrap my top hand fingers atm on the grip on my firing hand fingers. On the wrist angle I keep it almost straight. Docs, musicians, sculptors, climbers...angled wrists often see surgery later on. Outstanding video! Clip on microphone maybe to reduce hall of the room.
Thanks for the suggestion, this was early in my program and we've made a lot of video and audio quality improvements too! Elbows rotated down will amplify the perceived recoil, just because the Elbows will bend to absorb some of the shock. Rotating down means the gun will rise up from the Elbows more if that makes sense! With the lean there is too much or too little - I've found that with any shooter a slight lean forward, butt out position seems to work best vs too upright or too leaned over! Wrist straight is totally doable and a crush support hand grip will also stiffen the wrist and keep it in place! The angled wrist is just easier to put into practice ive seen with people and applies a bit of resistance to muzzle rise as well! Many great ways to do it well though 😁
The wrist locking is part of the reason that the Glock grip angle is the way it is. It forces the shooter to cant their wrists forward to lock their grip and keep the sights in view.
@@stvnchng4755 Largely because it's not as ergonomically comfortable or easily indexed would be my best educated guess! I could absolutely be wrong though.
Rob, I am an IPSC shooter with more than 250.000 shots. Trust me, I always learn something with your videos. At least you make me think about important matters even when you talk about a basic matter as the grip and recoil. Thanks
@@jpradasdiez thanks so much for taking the time to watch and comment! I'm glad you're getting value out of it, and I'd I can ever help feel free to ask questions anytime!
The best explanation of grip I've seen. Thank you, lots of gems in there.
Thanks so much for taking the time to watch and comment! I'm glad you found it helpful!
I’ve honestly been working on grip since last December- RUclips, forums, training and I have come full circle picking up pieces here and there and confirming in live fire and back to dry fire, over and over again.
Finally I’m in a place the gun is behaving in a way that’s predictable and I kid you not it’s all the pieces working together in this video.
This video is really put together well 👏
This is amazing to hear! So glad that these are all working well for you :)
This is actually from my online Accelerator program too, we have 164 members and growing fast! We're currently taking applications for new students too
www.robepifania.net/level-up-in-8-weeks
I have been planning on shooting my first local match this summer, and I must say this is 1 of the best easiest videos on grip I have watched, and I have been through 100s.
@Dollarbill1337 thanks so much for the kind words! I'm glad you found it useful. Have fun at your first match and if you need anything reach out 😁
Superb videos, thank you for clear and detailed explanations
My pleasure and thanks for watching and commenting!
This is so in depth. I tried your firing hand placement and it was very helpful, even though my trigger reach was a little long. Thanks!
Excellent! Thanks for the comment! You can also try applying pressure at an angle into the palm if you can't get the right position in the hand without trigger reach issues 😁
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
@@dmack346 thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!
This advice never grows old
Never will!
Outstanding
Thanks so much for watching!
Hello Rob, thanks for your investment for us trying to learn and improve technique and effective efficiency!!!
Please define or explain what you meant @ 0:43 in the vid. Referring to "feet offset". Does this mean, rotation of feet outward or placement of one foot ahead of the other? Or simply ankles relaxed with proper weight bearing with butt out?
Thank you for your help!!!
Thanks for asking as I'm sure others might have had this too!
I meant physical foot offset forward/Backward.
I typically tell people that are right handed "Left heel Right toe" to represent what might be a good offset. This will vary from person to person though 😁
Good stuff. I can’t remember where I heard it but someone said with your firing hand, your firing hand grip pressure should be like a “I want the job” handshake at most. Your support hand should be like you’re the a-hole that is purposely trying to break someones hand in a handshake to compete for the alpha male spot. It sounds funny, but that made it click in my head and improved my grip and minimized dot movement on the trigger pull and really helped mitigate muzzle rise.
The fact that it's funny helps you remember it which is awesome!
I often demonstrate the minimum pressure necessary and refer to it as the wet noodle handshake lol people hate it hahaha
@@robepifania I’ve only been shooting regularly for a couple years now. I don’t compete at all. I’m just a self-defense minded every day carrier. But when I decided to do that I knew I wanted to take as many classes as I could and train and practice as often as I could. I really want to be proficient and efficient. In other words an asset and not a liability. It took me a long time for the grip pressure thing to sink in. But once it did, it really helped me improve. You have some really good content! Just subbed!
@@CitizenCarrier Awesome and yes I agree!
Thanks so much for your time and attention! Check out the FREE lesson series too that I have for people on my email list - I think you'll find a lot of additional value aside from what's on this YT page :)
www.robepifania.net/free-drills
Feel free to reach out anytime with questions or comments!
@@robepifania Thanks so much! I will certainly check that out. And thanks for your help!
Great info.
Thanks for watching!
Rob I saw your name near the top of the ACE XR VR leader boards. I just wanted to know your opinion on it's value as a training tool. I've found your videos on here incredibly valuable in my quest to improve in USPSA so I really value your opinion
Thanks for commenting and for the question! So I typically don't like to recommend many tools unless it continues to get you training - BUT I've found this exceptionally useful and it seems to be delivering results for me as well.
In particular I like a few things:
1 - you get dot lift which allows you to call shots off of that.
2 - you get immediate feedback on your performance. I don't find it to be perfect in all cases, but its largely good enough to give you proper feedback in regards to shot calling
3 - moving target training is EXCEPTIONALLY useful because we get that feedback and not everyone has swingers and movers to train with
4 - the leader board is a perfect way to experiment with "deliberate play" principles, essentially challenging you to figure out how to get higher on the leaderboard.
I really dig this system, and I will continue to be using it going forward to supplement and even replace some or most of my dryfire!
@@robepifania I follow your RUclips so when I saw your name I felt compelled to ask. Thanks so much for the quick & insightful response! Hopefully one day I get to squad with you at a match or train with you. Much respect!
@Mdsub101 I do my best to help others man! You're always welcome to reach out with questions 😁
Feel free to check out the free lesson series if you haven't already! www.robepifania.net/free-drills
@@robepifania I started USPSA last fall. I'm in C class now. I just got my brother in law into it & I've shared your videos on dryfire with him. He saw immediate improvement in his grip & shot groups. I'll check out the online class. Thanks again!
Would love to see your top 3 drills to boost my classification level, shooting round 600 rounds a week right now.
thnx for all you do
It's important to know the kind of stuff you are messing up when shooting classifiers at your current level. Honest self appraisal and observations of others is key. As well as video review
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!
The questions I'd first ask are:
- what is your current classification?
- What do you feel you do WELL, and what do you feel needs some attention?
- What division are you shooting?
Make sure to grab the free lesson series because those will give some shooting fundamentals and gun handling skills that will help your classification for sure! You can find them here - www.robepifania.net/free-drills
I'd agree very much with this - while we can put broad cookie cutter answers into most people, having a specific answer tailored to the person is much more helpful!
I'm quite slim. I keep my butt forward to keep that weight above my feet, being mindful of my lean. Slight butt out makes more sense if there is a bit more weight to go around imo.
What do you think about rotating elbows neutral/down? Does this give the opposite effect at least under recoil compared to upwards rotation? I get more connection at the lower end of the grips having the elbows down. Not easy finding a range to film oneself.
Lots of food for thought. I'm trying to entrap my top hand fingers atm on the grip on my firing hand fingers.
On the wrist angle I keep it almost straight. Docs, musicians, sculptors, climbers...angled wrists often see surgery later on. Outstanding video! Clip on microphone maybe to reduce hall of the room.
Thanks for the suggestion, this was early in my program and we've made a lot of video and audio quality improvements too!
Elbows rotated down will amplify the perceived recoil, just because the Elbows will bend to absorb some of the shock. Rotating down means the gun will rise up from the Elbows more if that makes sense!
With the lean there is too much or too little - I've found that with any shooter a slight lean forward, butt out position seems to work best vs too upright or too leaned over!
Wrist straight is totally doable and a crush support hand grip will also stiffen the wrist and keep it in place! The angled wrist is just easier to put into practice ive seen with people and applies a bit of resistance to muzzle rise as well! Many great ways to do it well though 😁
Alternative Pistol Grip Methods - Post and Hook ATL: ruclips.net/video/Uis5L93vTfQ/видео.html
The wrist locking is part of the reason that the Glock grip angle is the way it is. It forces the shooter to cant their wrists forward to lock their grip and keep the sights in view.
Yep exactly!
If that’s true, why don’t other manufacturers incorporate this grip angle?
@@stvnchng4755 Largely because it's not as ergonomically comfortable or easily indexed would be my best educated guess! I could absolutely be wrong though.
It forced me as much as generating a tendinitis in my left elbow. I needed 6 months to recover. Glock only for having at home. 😂
@@stvnchng4755Tendinitis
Great info! I try not to move anything but my arms during drawing.
Yep! keep it simple and it becomes more efficient and consistent!