Honda CB500 Monoshock Conversion!
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- Опубликовано: 19 фев 2023
- Honda CB500 Monoshock Conversion! This project is a collaboration with @milezero.racers is building a Honda CB450 cafe racer. His vision for the bike included a monoshock conversion so he approached me to see if I could help. I was able to source a CB500T locally that was perfect to use for design and mockup to eventually send back to him. Watch as I take you through the entire design process as well as show areas of difficulty before finally ending up with a cool single shock design for this epic build!
As this design is in collaboration with Mile Zero Racers our goal is to possibly make this into a kit that you can purchase for your bike. Since this is the trial run piece we will need to do some testing to see what we like and don't like which is why I won't be linking any specific parts yet. We both feel the CB450 and CB500 bikes are underrated and are excited to bring our own flavors to the platform. Let us know what you think about the project and if you would be interested in a kit!
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Hey everyone! This was a very project collaboration with my friend Thomas of Mile Zero Racers and I am excited to finally show it to you. Keep in mind that I am not a suspension expert but I feel I have a good grasp on how this should be done with the specific goals in mind. If you want to know more on this stuff I highly recommend the Race Tech Suspension Bible for more in-depth reading and technical info. Also know that I am not going to link any specific parts just yet as this is still in testing so once we know it works well we will have more information to share. As mentioned this is hopefully going to become a kit so if this is something you may be interested in for your CB450 or 500 let us know!
Bj
Race tech’s book is worth the weight of a fully equipped Gold Wing and then some! Geometry is a section that should be read several times over. Love the vid look forward to seeing the kit!
This is such a cool video. Please don't apologise for the length of the video! Really enjoy learning from your entire process.
Thank you much! Glad everyone appreciates it so much!
Agreed was a fantastic video and wonderful demo of your skills
Nothing wrong with the length of this video, BJ. It allowed you to show us more of the build detail we enjoy
Thanks John!
By all means do longer videos, we get so much more info rather than a lot of stuff being glossed over, this video has been great as I’m doing a monoshock conversion and it’s showing me not only what to do but how to work out geometry so it doesn’t go wrong
I've been very surprised how well these long videos have been doing. I am grateful that people like them!
Leave them long brother! The more info the better. Plenty of builds in 15 min on youtube for folks to watch. I love watching these old bikes come together. I used to have a channel and I know it takes WAY WAY WAY longer to do these tasks and film rather than just getting her done. Thanks for sharing with us!
Thanks so much!
Those bicycle frames from the 70s and 80s... Love your work and videos.
thanks Kevin!
Cool custom.. Anyone that complains about long bike build videos shouldn't be watching bike build videos. Keep up the good work!
Agreed 100% It takes time to do it right. There are no shortcuts
Excellent video, great work and dedication to detail and engineering behind this change in damping.
I look forward to seeing this project, and seeing the final tests to see if the change in the bike is noticeable when riding.
Thank you very much for explaining everything in detail and allowing us to see all your work in detail, I send you a hug from southern Argentina.
Thanks so much!
Really good video. Good work, good explanations of the geometry needed to accomplish the project, which is especially helpful to those of us without a good vision of the parts that may be needed, to modify a project.
🙏🙏 glad it was helpful!
hell yeah, love these (long) build videos! Great stuff as always BHB!
Glad you enjoyed!
No worries about your video length ever! You give excellent info and don't hide any steps. Best kind for someone who is doing their best to learn it right. I made a 8 part video on building a ford c6 transmission and have yet to have anyone complain about length of it all. They are all happy I took the time to go into the details most smooth over. Thank you for a great video and you've got my subscription for sure!
Thanks so much for the support
I prefer long easy going vlogs where you just talk off the top of your head. It's relaxing just to watch you work. It's like transporting myself to your shop and hanging out for awhile .
I appreciate the input David
I do appreciate all the details you put into your videos. Honestly I'm collecting parts for my own cm400 build and ultimately I want to do a mini shock and custom start hoop. I'm learning so much watching your channel with others.
Well I'm glad you find the videos helpful!
I love this. Real fabrication. I hope one day I will be as confident as you are in your habilities. Keep these video coming.😃
Thanks Francis!
Such a cool collab!!
You are a real craftsman, good job and thanks for sharing
Many thanks!
Beautiful work as always.
Thanks so much!
I like the approach to asking for help - same kind of thing applies in the IT space. I recall talking to a really experienced and knowledgeable guy - and said how much we appreciated him. He responded by saying that he was not really the expert, but had worked with people who really knew stuff, and who had been kind enough to share their expertise with him. And almost all "experts" are like that - sharing info others shared with them. Because you can never know it all.
I like that approach. I want everyone to grow and learn so why keep itnto myself
Great job (I got that geometry a little mixed up in my head earlier but now I get it 😄!!!), keep em comin 👍
Awesome vid, got to hand to you brilliant fabrication and not too long at all you covered everything and very informative big 👍up 🏍🏍🏍
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed!
Thanks for the thorough explanations.
Glad you found it thorough
Your videos are excellent and provide a lot of detail on Your builds!
- griff in Grand Rapids Michigan
Thanks so much Griff!
Now I'm addicted to these videos
Glad to hear it!
Great great build. Well done !
Thank you!
Hey buddy been I while since I dropped a comment. This is a very well thought out video. This will help a will help quite a lot for people looking to tackle a mono conversion. Great work as always BJ 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks dude!
Once again BJ, awesome fabrication! You’re really inspiring me to do some work on my bike. I currently have a 2006 Kawasaki Vulcan 900 Classic I’m going to turn into a bobber. Although it’s a much different bike than the Hondas, I will be using techniques I’ve seen you use to do the fab work.
Keep it up, brother! Absolutely love your videos and channel.
Thanks so much!
Attention to detail makes the final build that much better 👍
I know Thomas has a great eye so the bike should be awesome!
thank you for this video I watched the entire thing, and enjoyed it.
Glad you enjoyed!
Another great project BJ!
Thanks Jeff!
Bru: You're not only a gear guru, your beats are dope af. Glad I found your channel!
Really happy you enjoy the tunes. Many complain about them lol
You are a genius ! Thanks for the great video.
Thanks Peter!
Sir honestly speaking you have magic hands for these motorcycles. Thats the reason we love to watch
Thanks so much!
Witam,kolejny ciekawy projekt.Czekam na efekt końcowy.Pozdrawiam Tomek .💥💪
Thank you!
Brutha your welds are looking really nice. i love seeing improvement. keep it up. i dig your style. i'm an old dog riding a 2020 Hypermotard 950 SP. my tinkering days are behind me. im super happy to see a young guy carrying on the love.
Thanks so much Martin!
@@BrickHouseBuilds yeah man . i just call em like i see em
Love the theme behind this. It's okay to ask for help!!
Thats what the community is about
Really like your fan videos will be waiting for the next episode
Glad you enjoyed Robert!
Great work man, even the music is amazing!🇸🇪
Thank ya Dan!
Length of the video was great , gave you more time to explain what you were doing and show how , excellent video and content , more like that will be greatly appreciated, keep up the good work
Thanks for the feedback David!
A great showcase for your skills, man! Don't apologise for the length of your videos either - we'll watch them all! 👍
Thanks Andy!
I'm new to your channel. Came across the CB750 build a few days ago and had to subscribe. Keep up the awesome work and great videos
Thanks for sticking around Eric!
Looks real well made. Cool tips!
Thank ya!
Great vid. I love the fabrication stuff.
Thank ya!
Very clever work friend, very nice.
Thanks Phil!
Thank you for the informative video, like 2Vintage channel, always a learning moment
Glad you found it so
I don't stop to comment on videos very often. Just want it to let you know to keep on the good work, you're doing a great job.
Well thank you much for taking the time!
Excellent video again, good job. :-)
Thanks John!
some nice fab work there.
Thanks Kevin!
Man this was a really informative video! Really appreciate you taking the time to show us how you did this
Well I'm glad you found it informative as thats the goal
@@BrickHouseBuilds these are the type of videos I need as a newcomer to custom bike building
@@lesheath6216 well thats my real goal. All my build series videos are packed with this info. Don't worry about the type of bike as everything I show can be applied to any bike
Wow Great video, your very talented great job
Thanks James!
O yeah looking good 👍
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Hi BJ, love the content bud, I have to say, the music is a bit overpowering and not needed. But I am an old guy from UK. You are very skilled at what you do, and I am so happy you take the time to share your knowhow, you rock. Thanks.
Just commenting to boost the algorithm, great stuff, the preload adjustability is interesting looks like you can tune the geometry and the spring rate will be almost progressive, getting softer as the angle increases due to the suspension travel.
Much appreciated Shane!
No your videos are perfect... excellent
Thank you!
Nice fab work
Much appreciated Nigel 🙏
Very crafty. Some bikes are using the mono-shock on the side I guess for access purpose. That bike is gonna look very nice. Let is see it when finished. RIDE SAFE OUT THERE!
Thanks Henry!
We like the long videos. More learning to be had
Thanks Alex!
Good job.👍👍
Thank you!
Man, that paint scraper worked perfect for removing that frame bracket!
It's my Swiss army paint scraper lol. Probably never used for paint
Hi there , we love your video's so much info please make them longer I'm over here in Waterford Ireland and run some honda cb250n superdreams ! We would love to see you do a video on the superdream some day.
Bought a CB450 back in the day nice size bike, had the smaller front disc
I've done one of these already and really liked how it rode
Man you are the best! How does a guy your age learn so much? I really enjoy your method teaching too.
Well thank you. I've been working on things since I was young (36 now) and have a mechanics touch developed. Here is a video where I explain my history ruclips.net/video/LiLjZzM4O9s/видео.html
Great use of CAD - Cardboard Aided Design.
It's proven tech 🤓
Will tune into this in it's entirety later as it's a feet up, snacks & drinks one. 😉🏴🤘🙏
Its a good one!
Lots of great info. I have a ‘74 CB360 I want to do something similar with. Thanks.
Hopefully the info helps!
Dude, if they had taught engineering like this in ' Highschool' i would've actually gone. Are you Allen Millyard's son? That's some next level backyard improv! Do strengthen the monoshock upper support, leaving room for rainwater to escape. You will be golden, it will collapse on itself if you don't support it! And rip off the welds. Goed gedaan jongrman!!!
Id definitely like to meet sir Allen!
Great video mr and l think the length of your video is fine like you said too give us chaps more information l didn’t realise how Complicated this job is l have a friend who did this same job back in the 1990s on a CB 900 Honda and hell it was dam good 😊take care 👍
Thanks so much Simon!
Gran trabajo 👏
Thank you!
Nice FAB bro. Gonna check out mile zero to see his build
He's building a very clean bike! It will be awesome
I watch certain channels for entertainment. You are one of them channels now. My videos get about 30percent retention on a good day. Lots of people skipping through. Not sure how to fix that yet.
Great edit btw.
Thanks so much! My videos were in the 40-50 range but the last 5 months that has dropped to about 25% to my surprise. Just keep making what you want to make!
Looks great! Excellent tutorial as well. Would you consider doing a build/tutorial of a linkage swingarm? It seems like a lot of bikes have them but then there’s some high-end ones that don’t utilize it. The new Ducati monster and KTM 890R doesn’t use one but one of their direct competitors the Triumph street triple has it, and I don’t quite know why. All MotoGP bikes seem to use them. So it would be amazing if you did a build with one. Anyway always dig your work man.
I do plan to do a linkage style on the upcoming gs550 build. I'll be sure to cover that part in depth
That’s awesome that parts are cheap ,because anybody can start building a bike then . I have a GSX r1000 2003 and parts for it are insane I got the bike for 1000$ I’ve put maybe 900 in parts so far but I still need parts subframe , seat headlight and front stay I’ve bought 3 off eBay all the wrong year lmao but it’s a learning in process I’ve reshimed the valve train compression is right in spec I think I want to make it custom naked thought I can fabric parts I need also I just can’t seem to come up with an idea yet
The best LS swap platform!
LS swap the world!
Great idea, and thoroighly enjoyed the video 👍🏼👍🏼.
By the way, the CB450 had a well deserved reputation for breaking cam chain tensioners at high revs, which then threw the cam chain and destroyed the insides of the engine. If uour mate is racing one, bedt he keep a very close eye on it. Both mine and a friend's bike did it within a year of each other when I was a young bloke.
Dont know about the 500, or whether Honda came up with a fix for it.
Thanks Andrew
Well that camera lens is farked now after all that grinding! ha ha - Ive done it too.
Sometimes a gopro lense must be sacrificed for the good fabrication shots 🙏🙏
fantastic video giving insight in to the logistics of modifying bikes. Also refreshing to have cerebral background music instead of the ubiquitous mindless hard rock
Glad you enjoyed
Love the channel! You actually inspired me to start building bikes. It was "Grandfather's Axe" that did it. Lol. Any advice for a new builder?
Well I appreciate that! As far as advice oh man, that's a long list. The biggest things though are to spend money on good information and not parts. This is especially true with diagnosis and not throwing parts at a problem. For building id say spend some time working on a budget, your plan, and your organization. Its easy to get overwhelmed so focus on bite sized chunks and not the entire build as a whole. One piece at a time. Eventually it will get done. Also for building, don't feel like you need the best tools or shop. Be creative with what you have. Tools are always a good investment but absolutely not necessary to have the best stuff. Lastly, you WILL get frustrated and discouraged. This is normal. Just walk away for a bit and come back with a level head. I took 5 months off of a car build to give myself a break. It was very worth it. Again, one piece at a time
Nice fab work. My first new motorcycle was a CB500T just like this. I built out a CL450 Honda 10 years ago that I got from a friend, into a hardtail Brat bike. Something you might explore.
Thank ya! I've built a hardtail brat actually using a Kz750 twin. This cb500 id love to make a full adventure bike
@@BrickHouseBuilds That would be cool. Like your CX500.
The problem that I have with these posts is that you are hitting my high school years with these conversions. At that time,1968 to 1972, the only two motorcycles on the road were the Honda 450 and 750. Oh yea. There was a 350 too and of course the 50 cc "motor bike." Whatever. Anyway, the 450. Yea. Way too many memories. Whew.
Hopefully all good memories!
Your afro is working at full power!
Hahahaha thank ya!
I much prefer long form vids. Good job!
Very nice fabrication....i got it clear.....i need a welding machine, hahahaha. MIG with flux wire is the cheapest and best for homebuild DIY i thing. No gas needed. I like your channel, i need a lot of advice for my build. Cheeers mate
I used a MIG for 16 years before I got a TIG so don't feel like you just need a TIG. I can't stress enough that you want a MIG with gas. It performs so much better and is a small cost difference.
quite agree, please stop apologising. You are explaining something fundamental ; Shock travel. Please carry on, please don't feel that you are making long boring videos. They are not. I compare your knowledge and skill like some reference manual. keep going dude :) Did you say you'd be in the UK in 2023?
Thanks Christopher! Yes I'll be at the Scottish Motorcycle Show next month actually
Muito top ótimo trabalho perfeito
Thank you much!
Very slick! Should the heim joint be on about the same radius arc as the swing arm to avoid binding?
I likely overbuilt that section here but for looks I felt it would be best to keep it close. I'm sure you could have it smaller no issue.
I rarely chime in but...never never leave a chuck wrench in the chuck of a lathe. Especially at the 27:50 mark. I know somebody who has a rough rusty 70's CB450. Cool build.
My lathe can't even turn on unless the chuck cover is down. Impossible to even make that mistake
@@BrickHouseBuilds This is on page 6 of your lathe's Users Manual. • Remove all tools (wrenches, chuck keys, locking pins, and so on) from the spindle immediately after using them. Safety switch or not (they have been known to fail), it's an unsafe habit to get into. Nice lathe.
Sangat detail cara kerjanya, saya suka . . . 👍👍👍👏🔥🔥🔥
Thanks!
I had this bike CB 500 T
hello good morning it has become almost like my BMW k1200s has a spring front and rear great
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@brickhousebuilds love the fabrication on this! Can you send the link to the Heim joint kit you used?
I do appreciate it but im purposely not linking until its tested to confirm quality
One day sir…..I shall be doing the same!!!
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What you did is certainly complicated, and the measurements need to be careful, but it's doable. It makes me wonder why the motorcycle world didn't adopt monoshocks/single shocks, widely, sooner, rather than have two big shocks hanging out, mostly. I do remember a few street bikes here and there in the past having single shock swing arms as I remember, perhaps 1940s/50s, like the Vincent Black Shadow.
Just technology of the time id say
Whoa... would love to hear about the angles and stuffs. watching - now.... heh
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Great video and perfect length.
Regarding the hoop where it mount to the old shocks point on the swing arm. I wondered if you had considered solid metal bushes rather than the metalastic ones fitted into the swing arm ?
Would this not reduce flex?
Regards Andy. 🇬🇧
You make a good point on that but through the entire process the goal is to make it simple for the average guy in his garage to do should it be a kit
@Brick House Builds
Could the kit include bushes to press in? Assuming the swing arm is being removed for welding.
By no means a criticism just an observation. x
@@andygibson5678 if it were requested multiple times id say always a possibility
interesting design. Spring rate is to high would like to see how this works with correct spring/ shock. Thank you for sharing.
You can definitely follow along on the Mile Zero Racers channel as he finishes his build
love the little lathe! (do you want to be using wd40 as cutting oil?)
For aluminum some WD40 is a great cutting oil. For steel I use other fluids
Gidday Mate, whats happening with the CBX ? 10 months since you did a video on that bike. No pressure just curious.
Hey Rod please watch my "thank you 2022" video. I've talked about the status of the CBX many many times in other videos as it's a daily question but many are still not aware of all I have going on.
I think those CB500T's are kinda cool...and not many people use them for builds. Does a mono shock make the bike handle better or is it more of a visual mod? Here's a question for you... when I look at the profile of the bike, why not do a perfectly straight line from the hoop up through the shock?. If you go to 49:32 you'll see you can't draw a straight line from hoop's lower mount to the top of the shock mount. Is there a reason for the very slight angle created between hoop and shock? Seems like making it perfectly straight would make things even stronger, but I got a C+ in geometry and Ive never welded a day in my life, so I don't know.
Well as explained I didn't want the shock to go over center and get softer as it traveled up. I had to have angle built in.
Also this is more visual but with enough time and money you could make it handle better
Sad to see you chop up this very nice bike. Could be a very nice retro styled weekend rider.
We all have different needs and wants
@@BrickHouseBuilds I agree, still sad.
@@nathanchristopher6121 sorry you're so sad. Building bikes makes me happy. I highly recommend it!
I got a 1980 KZ650 that owner wants to do a monoshock as well. Got the ZX6R swingarm already but not real sure where I need to go now??
Lots of options. If possibly Id duplicate the original geometry from the zx6r to get it close.
I raced GP in the 60 and 70s, yes, I'm an old man now but I had my time in the sun. All our bikes were simply Cafe Racers in those days and the Mono shock wasn't really a thing yet. Later on I rode them but just fooling around in the desert. My question is, how much better will the Mono shock bike handle? I often got frame flex on tight corners, does this fix that? The geometry is a bitch!! I could do it but others did it a bunch better! I wouldn't mind having the 500 as a Cafe Racer!!
Well this may not be any better. It won't go on a track and the intended use is for the street. The monoshock is a goal for looks and the sake of building or just being custom.