Whoa… The toldinstone guy visited my home city. I didn’t even realize this was also your channel until I heard your voice haha. Awesome video. Also, a lot of people are lamenting how much the area around this column has declined. This is in North St. Louis City. StL has declined as a whole since the post-war years, just like all American cities have to some extent or another, but the decline in North City has been particularly bad. The main reason for the decline is, again, the same as for almost every other American urban center: Population loss (and thus loss of a tax base) due to white flight, cheaper land and housing in what used to be the rural areas just outside of the cities, affordability of cars, focus on building car infrastructure, both of which allowed people to live outside the cities but commute into the city for work, and other lesser reasons. I’ll just end on one statistic that has always really resonated with me. In 1950, the population of StL peaked at about 850,000. It has declined every year since then to just barely over 300,000 in 2020. That’s almost a 65% loss and only one city in the country has had a comparable loss of population in the same time span: Detroit. I think it is no coincidence that the two cities that have experienced some of the worst depopulation are also today two of the most notorious for crime and urban decline in general
I love driving around STL and checking out some of the older architecture even if a lot of it is in disrepair. I grew up next door in KC and most of our older buildings were dismantled decades ago for strip malls and the same 5 chain restaurants you see anywhere.
Looked this up, found a postcard from the 1920’s showing a vibrant bustling neighborhood around this tower. Now what’s left of the neighborhood is dead or dying. Sad.
I grew up in the shadows of the Grand Avenue and Bissell Hill water towers So sad that almost nothing remains in that area. It was a busy place in the 50's and early 60's.
St. Louis, MO is my former home town. I left on July 29, 2019 to move to Park Ridge, IL. I lived in my sister’s house for 11 months until June 28, 2020 when I moved to my current apartment Niles, IL where I’ve lived for almost 5 1/2 years.
Underrated history, learned something new about my home state! If you spend more time in St. Louis, another manmade wonder to see would be the Cahokia pyramids just across the river in Illinois. It's the best example of pre-Columbian medieval architecture in the Midwest, and could definitely use a "Told in Stone" treatment (though I guess it would be "Told in Wood and Earth").
Aren't these just mounds of earth? Not trying to be disrespectful please. The historical significance of the Mounds is great and not lost on me. But that they are touted as phenomenal architectural interests have always fascinated me. I have never visited the Mounds. Maybe once I do, I will change my mind.
@@gardenstepsThey were previous cities from a Mississippi culture that we’ve lost a lot of information on. Technically not very impressive, but very unique for North America (not including the southwest).
@@gardensteps That's the neat thing, even though they are technically just "mounds of earth", they were built in a sophisticated way, alternating between packed earth, clay, and sod to prevent erosion. The biggest mound, Monks Mound, was built with slopes much steeper than is normally achievable with earth. It's also massive, with a base larger than the Sun Pyramid in Teotihuacan. Plus, many of the buildings are precisely aligned to astronomical events. I think that's impressive enough to list it as an architectural wonder.
Louisville, KY has a particularly lovely water tower-supposedly the oldest ornamental water tower in the world, if you trust wikipedia-and made for a great school field trip. It's a pretty popular wedding destination, too!
Interesting! In the years I lived in St. Louis, never even considered it might be the largest one in the World! Coincidentally, I've been to the one in Alexandria too!
Considering that the population of the city of St. Louis has been in continuous decline for 75 years, and is only 1/3rd the size it was at its peak, and even has a lower population now that it did over 155 years ago, that makes a lot of sense.
Not a nice area, up there on the outskirts of the north city. Only around 1200 live in this neighborhood now (college hill); back in 2015 the Guardian named it St. Louis's most dangerous.
This is a huge reason why St. Louis has areas that are dead. It was done on purpose to the people remaining there, who are then the scapegoats for the blighted economy. The worst thing about living here is having to listen to the ignorance of the county people.
And instead of *the people remaining there* to maintain their pride by maintaining a peaceful existence amongst themselves even if they are poor, no. They give justification to the ignorance of the county people.
I grew up right there John ave the house I was raised in they tore da hold block down, Rip grandma 🌹 ppl couldn’t come over there playing around and still to this day you lose your life right there, ppl really thought twice if they want to come over to buy some 💨 From em boyz if from STL you know what’s up with John Avenue
This is not the world's tallest freestanding classical column. That would be Perry's Victory and International Peace Memorial in Put-in-Bay, Ohio, a Greek Doric column which stands 352 feet tall.
St. Louis almost deserves its own video. So sad how many terrible decisions decades ago contributed to leaving so many parts of the city abandoned today.
St. Louis has the chance to make London, England very jealous. They have Nelson's column. Let's make this John Paul Jones' column - unless, of course, there's a famous US Navy Admiral from Missouri.
yeah, as mentioned in other comments there are even bigger ones in London or Ohio. I guess those don;t count cause they are towers you can go inside. Maybe this is just small enough that it doesn't really have a functional inside like a tower?
it's because they had so much room in that country that they always wanted to build New MORE BIGGER instead of building something that was sustainable for the future.. so everything is car centric, widespread and badly maintained, until it deteriorates completely. A beautiful country (nature) with ugly man made parts. Even the rich parts look quite terrible in general.
@laurencejenner Spoken like a true non-American. This area you are looking at in this video is the decaying urban areas of St. Louis, not the suburbs. If you knew what we call suburbs in the US, you'd know our "suburbs" are the rich neighborhoods where you have the beautiful homes, beautiful roads, beautiful shopping, etc In the third world countries, the suburbs are where the poor live. It's the opposite in the US.
god, i've been catching up w/yur 'oldre' videos latey! dang, so impressed. of course this one also has a 'silly' slant. i was looking @ one where you talked about the roman 'kush' neighbour or empire & i knew what kush was, but didn't know about that . . . i LOVE the persian roman dichotomy!!
Corinthian architecture. Interesting... the whole thing, driving circle around it included makes an eye...with the 'Beam' in the center. Like almost all 'older' architectures hold these fascinating esoteric meanings begind them....mostly occultic and Biblical.... "Thou hypocrite! First cast the 'Beam' out of your own eye before you pluck the withered twig from your brothers eye'.... paraphrasing.....
Maybe you're misunderstanding his usage (?) Yes, the design is of Greek origin. But calling it a _Greek_ column is usually in an _architectural_ context. If, as in this video, the context is a free-standing _monument_ . . . then we usually call it a _Roman_ column. The Greeks didn't use columns for monuments as often the Romans . . .
Whoa… The toldinstone guy visited my home city. I didn’t even realize this was also your channel until I heard your voice haha. Awesome video.
Also, a lot of people are lamenting how much the area around this column has declined. This is in North St. Louis City. StL has declined as a whole since the post-war years, just like all American cities have to some extent or another, but the decline in North City has been particularly bad.
The main reason for the decline is, again, the same as for almost every other American urban center: Population loss (and thus loss of a tax base) due to white flight, cheaper land and housing in what used to be the rural areas just outside of the cities, affordability of cars, focus on building car infrastructure, both of which allowed people to live outside the cities but commute into the city for work, and other lesser reasons.
I’ll just end on one statistic that has always really resonated with me. In 1950, the population of StL peaked at about 850,000. It has declined every year since then to just barely over 300,000 in 2020. That’s almost a 65% loss and only one city in the country has had a comparable loss of population in the same time span: Detroit. I think it is no coincidence that the two cities that have experienced some of the worst depopulation are also today two of the most notorious for crime and urban decline in general
I love driving around STL and checking out some of the older architecture even if a lot of it is in disrepair. I grew up next door in KC and most of our older buildings were dismantled decades ago for strip malls and the same 5 chain restaurants you see anywhere.
Looked this up, found a postcard from the 1920’s showing a vibrant bustling neighborhood around this tower. Now what’s left of the neighborhood is dead or dying. Sad.
demographic change
Neoliberalism
God bless the empire
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Transportation change, but sure, let’s act like your racism isn’t on display.
Fascinating! I hope St. Louis maintains it.
Thank you for coming to St. Louis. A lot of great underappreciated architecture
Before today, I never knew such a structure even existed.
TY for sharing.
I grew up in the shadows of the Grand Avenue and Bissell Hill water towers So sad that almost nothing remains in that area. It was a busy place in the 50's and early 60's.
I would love more of your great videos on little known, yet more modern architecture
St. Louis, MO is my former home town. I left on July 29, 2019 to move to Park Ridge, IL. I lived in my sister’s house for 11 months until June 28, 2020 when I moved to my current apartment Niles, IL where I’ve lived for almost 5 1/2 years.
I had a comic book from the 1970s that featured this tower.
Underrated history, learned something new about my home state! If you spend more time in St. Louis, another manmade wonder to see would be the Cahokia pyramids just across the river in Illinois. It's the best example of pre-Columbian medieval architecture in the Midwest, and could definitely use a "Told in Stone" treatment (though I guess it would be "Told in Wood and Earth").
I love Cahokia Mounds.
Aren't these just mounds of earth? Not trying to be disrespectful please. The historical significance of the Mounds is great and not lost on me. But that they are touted as phenomenal architectural interests have always fascinated me. I have never visited the Mounds. Maybe once I do, I will change my mind.
@@gardenstepsThey were previous cities from a Mississippi culture that we’ve lost a lot of information on. Technically not very impressive, but very unique for North America (not including the southwest).
@@gardensteps That's the neat thing, even though they are technically just "mounds of earth", they were built in a sophisticated way, alternating between packed earth, clay, and sod to prevent erosion. The biggest mound, Monks Mound, was built with slopes much steeper than is normally achievable with earth. It's also massive, with a base larger than the Sun Pyramid in Teotihuacan. Plus, many of the buildings are precisely aligned to astronomical events. I think that's impressive enough to list it as an architectural wonder.
Louisville, KY has a particularly lovely water tower-supposedly the oldest ornamental water tower in the world, if you trust wikipedia-and made for a great school field trip. It's a pretty popular wedding destination, too!
Interesting! In the years I lived in St. Louis, never even considered it might be the largest one in the World! Coincidentally, I've been to the one in Alexandria too!
Marvelous - thank you !
My word exactly...fascinating!
Great! Thanks for featuring our local oddities!
Still in town?
Make sure to visit the "City Museum".
Or one up that, and find someone who can get you into the ruins of Cementland.
Stand pipes…. never heard of that. Thanks for sharing.
What about the Perry's Monument? It is 300 feet. And a column.
Very interesting design for a water tower.
Beautiful area to live in! Nice and spacious and green
Lol
Interesting looking neighbourhood. Seems sort of abandoned or on it's last legs...
Considering that the population of the city of St. Louis has been in continuous decline for 75 years, and is only 1/3rd the size it was at its peak, and even has a lower population now that it did over 155 years ago, that makes a lot of sense.
@@MatthewTheWanderer Yeah that's what it looked like in the video.
@@MatthewTheWanderer over 90 percent black in east st.louis
Not a nice area, up there on the outskirts of the north city. Only around 1200 live in this neighborhood now (college hill); back in 2015 the Guardian named it St. Louis's most dangerous.
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Driven around that circle for decades lol Thanks for answering two questions never knew what those structures were in the river either lol 🤦🏾♂️
the neighborhood around it has been destroyed,
probably initiated by the removal of the once extensive
streetcar system that St Louis once boasted of.
the blacks moved in and the blacks took over.
This is a huge reason why St. Louis has areas that are dead. It was done on purpose to the people remaining there, who are then the scapegoats for the blighted economy. The worst thing about living here is having to listen to the ignorance of the county people.
And instead of *the people remaining there* to maintain their pride by maintaining a peaceful existence amongst themselves even if they are poor, no. They give justification to the ignorance of the county people.
cool channel bro
I agree. I subscribed a few years ago and enjoy each episode.
That’s a nice column
Lived here for a while and didn't know about this thing....
I grew up right there John ave the house I was raised in they tore da hold block down, Rip grandma 🌹 ppl couldn’t come over there playing around and still to this day you lose your life right there, ppl really thought twice if they want to come over to buy some 💨 From em boyz if from STL you know what’s up with John Avenue
I hope you also visited Cahokia Mounds just on the other side of the Mississippi!
Next time you’re around checkout Bellefontaine Cemetery and Arboretum
This is not the world's tallest freestanding classical column. That would be Perry's Victory and International Peace Memorial in Put-in-Bay, Ohio, a Greek Doric column which stands 352 feet tall.
Hope you liked stl. I’ll have to visit that tower sometime when I go see Sherman’s grave.
I think the Monument in London, a single doric column, is 202 feet tall, a quarter taller than this one.
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I what yall to pay attention to on what said he on? Those houses projects in the back ain’t for weak and John ave is on the other side of that tower
St. Louis almost deserves its own video. So sad how many terrible decisions decades ago contributed to leaving so many parts of the city abandoned today.
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St. Louis has the chance to make London, England very jealous. They have Nelson's column. Let's make this John Paul Jones' column - unless, of course, there's a famous US Navy Admiral from Missouri.
I've seen it from a distance
St Louis could make it a little more maintained looking
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Neat. But I'd contest that a tower made to look like a column is still a tower. And not a column ...
yeah, as mentioned in other comments there are even bigger ones in London or Ohio. I guess those don;t count cause they are towers you can go inside. Maybe this is just small enough that it doesn't really have a functional inside like a tower?
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So it's a water tower and not a column...
Equally impressive is the roundabout.
Why do so many suburbs in US cities look like derelict wastelands? Honestly, it’s like looking at downtown Mogadishu half the time!
black people. Look at the demographics over time.
This isn't a suburb. It's north city. Not all of the city looks like this, and the suburbs definitely not.
it's because they had so much room in that country that they always wanted to build New MORE BIGGER instead of building something that was sustainable for the future..
so everything is car centric, widespread and badly maintained, until it deteriorates completely. A beautiful country (nature) with ugly man made parts.
Even the rich parts look quite terrible in general.
Our country is dying
@laurencejenner
Spoken like a true non-American. This area you are looking at in this video is the decaying urban areas of St. Louis, not the suburbs.
If you knew what we call suburbs in the US, you'd know our "suburbs" are the rich neighborhoods where you have the beautiful homes, beautiful roads, beautiful shopping, etc
In the third world countries, the suburbs are where the poor live. It's the opposite in the US.
god, i've been catching up w/yur 'oldre' videos latey! dang, so impressed. of course this one also has a 'silly' slant. i was looking @ one where you talked about the roman 'kush' neighbour or empire & i knew what kush was, but didn't know about that . . . i LOVE the persian roman dichotomy!!
How is this video "silly" in any way?
It is really only a half step above an old factory chimney in aesthetics and the neighborhood adds a depressing backdrop.
Now I know why Missouri is sometimes called "misery".
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This narrative is incorrect.
Careful out there man.
The name "Grande Avenue" is a bit ironic in this case 😂.
Parts of Grand Av, those parts not in NStL, are still pretty grand.
Corinthian architecture. Interesting... the whole thing, driving circle around it included makes an eye...with the 'Beam' in the center. Like almost all 'older' architectures hold these fascinating esoteric meanings begind them....mostly occultic and Biblical.... "Thou hypocrite! First cast the 'Beam' out of your own eye before you pluck the withered twig from your brothers eye'.... paraphrasing.....
Lol there is so much urban blight in the backgrounds of this video's shots, what a dying city
What's fascinating is how he keeps calling an obviously Corinthian Greek column, as Roman lol.
Maybe you're misunderstanding his usage (?) Yes, the design is of Greek origin. But calling it a _Greek_ column is usually in an _architectural_ context. If, as in this video, the context is a free-standing _monument_ . . . then we usually call it a _Roman_ column. The Greeks didn't use columns for monuments as often the Romans . . .