What makes TLC's contract disputes even more egregious is that Pebbles had been an artist herself prior to getting into artist management! How she could draft such an awful deal with TLC that was completely balanced in her favour is incomprehensible... and after amassing a fortune from her unfair dealings with TLC she rebounded herself as Sister Perri, became an ordained Minister and preacher! The nerve of that woman!!!!
She was already endocrined in the industry. She went through her hazing.. Bivens experienced it too, but I'm sure 702, ABC nor Boyz to men received their worth either.
I believe it because she was prob screwed as an artist too which is why she wanted to go the business route to actually make money + why she also prob married LA Reid (not saying she didnt love him)but he was financially stable
If you did your research you would know Pebbles really was used as a scapegoat by Arista and LaFace who benefited the most financially. Pebbitone was co-owned by LA Reid. It was a conflict of interest. Pebbles got blamed for everything when she was only part of the problem. The problem was they were signed to LaFace through the production company and not directly to the label because TLC was Pebbles' creation and she had ownership of it. TLC got caught up in a bad situation. It wouldn't have been a huge problem if they didn't have the huge success. No one expected them to be that huge and when they went on to generate a lot of money for LaFace and Arista. Pebbitone and TLC were the last to see money everyone else got paid the most and first. Toni Braxton had a similar problem and sued and won 20M from LaFace/Arista. TLC got bad legal advice to go bankrupt and sue Pebbitone they should have sued Arista and LaFace as well. LA Reid threw Pebbles under the bus to save his job and keep Arista's biggest pop group on the label and it cost him his marriage. TLC was screwed due to way more factors than Pebbles! Getting out of the Pebbitone contract was a good move but they never got the big windfall of money from Arista/LaFace they deserved. They should have paid up atleast 5M per girl!
They did Left Eye dirty as group with No Scrubs. Her rap made that song I used to sit in front of MTV for ages just so I could watch the video and rap along…’ Let me check my vernacular and lemme get back to ya!’ Fanmail as whole is my fav album of all time from Lovesick to My Life to Unpretty it was ahead of its game. Happy 25th FanMail you have been with me since I was 10. RIP LeftEye
@@geoffparks7577 Her rap wasn't added to the song until the album was already out, they made it the video version since the album was already in stores.
CSC solidified them as the top girl group of the 90s. It went diamond. No other girl group in the 90s achieved that. We have to start remembering TLC’s legacy correctly. They were the best selling girl group of the 90s, not just one of them.
Fanmail and Crazy Sexy Cool are There best albums like I can’t choose between them. Fanmail was such a good concept Lisa was ahead of her time she really doesn’t get the credit in rap and in music she deserves. This album should have had more singles. A timeless album. Love your videos you really go into detail
You did a wonderful job with this. What an iconic, legendary group TLC. They changed the whole game. May Left Eye continue to rest in peace. TLC is forever
While Lisa was incredibly ahead of her time with Fanmail... I do think that's crazy she was so upset the other members didn't want to do a more raunchy concept. Like what do you mean you wanted to do webcaming and other erotic acts? Like this is an album for the fans and while i know some of them may have been freaks you still have a mass audience to appeal to.
Being there and being quite aware. My only critique is the "No Pigeons" Thing. There was a lot of time spent on this "Conflict" (In this video) But I honestly don't remember anything about that song or the group who released it. In fact, I don't recall ever hearing it, I think maybe it wasn't as important as it seems like it might have been.
I remember seeing a brief clip of the "No Pigeons" video once as part of a "new releases" segment on a music channel. That was it. I don't remember it being a big deal at all.
Oh it was definitely a thing. Remember boys getting in trouble for calling girls pigeons but girls not getting the same energy when calling lil boys scrubs. Smdh. 😂 both set the community back a bit
No one cared, except for Kandi, bc she wanted her royalties from copying she and tiny's song. That song was less irrelevant than Billie Jean's female rebuttal of the song. Lol!
TLC is ICONIC!! As huge as this album was it could have been even bigger becauze there are so many songs that couod have been singles. I always thought My Life would have been a awesome single. So many other songs
Fantastic video! Very thorough! I’m a lifelong TLC Stan and can confirm you did your homework! Thank you for shining a spotlight on my girls and their legacy.
Great video bro! This album is timeless period!!! I play it alot when I get the feeling of listening to it. It really pushed TLC's sound of r&b/pop and hip hop into another direction sonically. Vocally, conceptually, and visually "Fanmail" opened the doors for r&b futuristic pop and hip hop to become relevant. My favorite tracks are "No Scrubs", "Unpretty", "Silly Ho", "I'm Good At Being Bad", and etc. Chilli, T-Boz, and Left Eye really carved out their own lane in music. And inspired many girl groups to do the same hands down period!!! Keep up the amazing work!!! 💖
Oh lawd @ you mentioning the Fanmail chatroom, i remember those days like it was yesterday! Between that and the Ms. Janet chatroom, i was an online menace at the time 🤣🤣 These kids today WOULD NEVER understand!
Lisa was TLC! Dont get me wrong, T and Chilli were amazing, but Lisa was the genius behind the scenes. She came from a generation of fame. There wouldn't be a TLC had Lisa not left Philly. The no scrubs, unpretty and waterfalls videos were Lisa's concept. Most dont know she was the Executive producer for Lil Kim's, lady's night remix. Most thought it was Missy. Lol
Timbaland, Missy and Aaliyah.... Is where the futuristic /r&b/ alternative / electronic / dance music / Hip Hop mashup started...they influenced everyone going forward including this album from TLC... But TLC influenced Aaliyah's early career
Thank you for watching 🙏🏾 it was actually one of the first ideas I had when I started the channel but always knew it was going to be a long one and wanted to do the full story justice.
@@hellobye7697 Right? Lol. TLC: The best-selling American female group and the second best-selling female group in the world, selling over 50 million records.
I agree. They dominated the 90s as the top female group. However, today, the industry does not recognize and honor and their legacy enough. They should be receiving all kinds of tributes and lifetime achievement awards.
Amazing analysis as always. Been watching you for over a year and I'm mad at myself for just now subbing to u. Please do one on Missy's catalog, I would love to hear your pristine commentary.
i'll never get why thay chose Dear Lie as a second ballad, when they had Bangers like Silly Ho, I'm,good at being bad, Shout, My Life, If she knew.... all extra cool songs to release....i was disappointed
Although silly ho was my song and jam. I actually like dear lies and thought it made sense and didn't sound or seem out of place to be release as a single.
Dear Lie should not have been a single IMO Ibagree there's so many other good hits even the ones that didn't make the album the bonus songs But Fanmail or I'm good at being Bad or My Life or Shout were bangers
CrazySexyCool is the best body of work they ever released. Fanmail is second to CrazySexyCool. Of course Fanmail has iconic hits but that orange album is dope👌
You need to keep going!!! After that performance of MUSIC, Comes and Amazing Version of Erotica which kinda blendes to a Mashup of Lucky Star and Hung Up!! you gotta see thesbafrom front to back that whole ending with those 3 songs blended its AMAZING!!!!!!!!
FanMail was way ahead of its time! Although it sold extremely well, it’s a shame that internal struggles within the group prevented prevented this album to truly soar.
the last tlc concert i went to was fanmail i also went to crazysexycool i remember after the fanmail concert i was sooo mad at Left Eye cause she really seemed like she could care lesssss chilli and tboz really showed more reverence for what the fans were experiencing and it was obvious left eye was reaaaallly disconnected
I'm super curious to know what show and leg you attended 🤔. I saw TLC during both legs of the Fanmail tour, and Left Eye was hyped. They had internal issues during the first leg in 99 but hid it pretty well for the show. Regardless of what was happening behind the scenes during the first leg, you can see their love and chemistry during the second leg. The Fanmail tour was 🔥.
I didn’t know that about Fan2C. They can’t be prudes now like The first and second album was so clean and sex free, especially with Chili’s interlude on CSC, Ain’t To Proud To Beg, Is How It Works from the Waiting To Exhale album and even I’m Good At Being Bad on Fanmail. Seems like every opportunity TLC had to grow and be cool here go Chili and TBoz ruining things. Chili didn’t even want to participate in the No Scrubs video. She was the only one who didn’t have their own sci-fi outfit in the video. And I found out it was by choice.
@TheRealArrendondo thanks for watching, I assume you’re referring to the part about raps being removed from being played on the radio. I was explaining why some radio stations remove the rap sections from songs in general - it wasn’t specifically about Lisa’s raps being removed, maybe I didn’t make that clear I. do agree though that her raps were always very uplifting and positive
Can you do Selena Dreaming of you or Amor prohibido? AP was her album before going into English but there was so much goin on at that time in her young life. I love your videos and all the information you share❤
CrazySexyCool was a critically acclaimed masterpiece with immense commercial success and cultural impact, but the production on Fanmail was way ahead of its time (people don't talk about this enough). I also feel like non-TLC and general casual listeners don't know much about the success and impact of the Fanmail album, which is unfortunate. Fanmail was the first album by a female group to DEBUT at the #1 spot on the Billboard 200 and spent more weeks at number one than any other girl group in music history (tied with Spice Girls). - TLC was the only artist/group with TWO number-one songs from the same album in the 99 calendar year. Fanmail received the second-most Grammy nominations of all artists/genres at the 2000 Grammys (including the top categories) and is to date the ONLY R&B or pop female group to be nominated for Album of the Year. Fanmail was the best-selling R&B album of 1999 and was amongst the best-selling albums of 1999 overall. I feel that the Fanmail era had a solid run and did what it was supposed to do. From the album's production to the aesthetic, it was an innovative body of work that cracked the doors for other r&b/pop groups to follow during the Y2K era. Silly Ho and Im Good At Being Bad were promo tracks and not “official” singles, but they were still bangers that got hip-hop station airplay (at least where I grew up). In the summer of 99, I literally remember changing the radio stations and hearing No Scrubs, Unpretty, and Im Good At Being Bad being played on the same day. I don't think Dear Lie or an “official” third single was needed, but that's just my opinion. They finished the full-year Fanmail era by wrapping up their tour, getting their Grammys, and releasing a very successful pay-per-view concert special. Also, Tboz was pregnant during the second leg of the Fanmail tour, so she was able to take the time to focus on a safe and healthy pregnancy. Despite all the ups and downs during the Fanmail era, it was still a vibe and probably my fav era of TLC!
Thanks so much!, for a revived version of the story of TLC's dealings... I believe still Pebbles had inner workings within what was going on with this group because she always claimed that she's been there before them so she was always trying to help them out, And I'm trying to figure out in what way?🕛🔄🎶🎤🧠
Pebbles was a scapegoat it was LaFace and Clive (Arista) who stole their money. Pebbitone was also co-owned by LA Reid but somehow Pebbles gets all the smoke when in reality they should have sued LaFace and Arista like Toni did (she got 20M). The Pebbitone deal was a bad deal they should have renegotiated after the first album was a huge success. TLC was Pebbles' group she put the entire group together LaFace used her as the scapegoat to keep their biggest pop act on their roster and LA Reid threw his own wife under the bus to keep his boss (Clive) happy. LA and Pebbles divorced because of this TLC drama. Pebbles was no walk in the park, but she wasn't the monster everyone makes her out to be. VH1 had to pay Pebbles a couple of million for that movie and the false portrayal. TLC deserved more money and sadly they never did get the money they deserved. Arista and LaFace did them so wrong. Had TLC been on Columbia they would be rich rich, but then again the music wouldn't be the same. LaFace's production is what made them stand out. I also hated that radio often cut Lefteye's raps out of most of the singles. TLC got screwed because they were signed to a production company that was signed to the label. They were not directly signed to LaFace like most artists so the production company absorbed most of the risk and got the financial windfall if they were hugely successful. This was common practice En Vogue had a similar deal with East/West and Elektra.
Crazy, sexy, cool was by far the best cd! I hate they filed bk, bc kick your game, switch and if I was your gf were amazing tracks! They did a Prince song and nailed it on a level just as great, if not better, than prince!!!
I agree I think another song would have served better than Dear Lie as the third single. I would have preferred Don’t Pull Out On My Yet as it showcases that the group could sing well together
@@thediaryofamusicfreak I just listened to don't pull out on me and I don't even remember it because I do not receive the Fanmail album well. I skipped most of the songs. Dont pull out on me sounds like a track from the crazysexycool Album a typical TLC song. Baby I miss you so much was a popular song out here in Jamaica but was too young to care until when I was older I was listening to some throwback grooves and the radio DJ mentioned their name I was shocked because it was different, not a TLC sound thats why i love it so much.
Was Pebbles working during the time the biopic came out? If not how was any of what was in it tarnishing her name? You paying the group you managed dust in the 90s tarnished enough
@@dasiareed2708 and that you have that right. But it is certainly not better than the first two albums. And 3 D was slightly better in my opinion. There was not enough left eye on Fan Mail. Too many ballads. Not enough fun songs. Only 4 single worthy songs. No scrubs SAVED the album. Til this day it is the only song anyone plays from the album.
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What was your favourite track from Fanmail?
Dear Lie
The Whole Album
Unpretty is wonderful as are all the songs on this album. 😊
Haha - this album has no skips
@@Not_Aaliyah123 When it first released I always wondered why they released it but as I’ve gotten older it’s actually I really nice song
What makes TLC's contract disputes even more egregious is that Pebbles had been an artist herself prior to getting into artist management! How she could draft such an awful deal with TLC that was completely balanced in her favour is incomprehensible... and after amassing a fortune from her unfair dealings with TLC she rebounded herself as Sister Perri, became an ordained Minister and preacher! The nerve of that woman!!!!
She was already endocrined in the industry. She went through her hazing.. Bivens experienced it too, but I'm sure 702, ABC nor Boyz to men received their worth either.
I believe it because she was prob screwed as an artist too which is why she wanted to go the business route to actually make money + why she also prob married LA Reid (not saying she didnt love him)but he was financially stable
@@fuzzykyrra add the fact she was married to LA Reid…double dipping big time
The grift continues
If you did your research you would know Pebbles really was used as a scapegoat by Arista and LaFace who benefited the most financially. Pebbitone was co-owned by LA Reid. It was a conflict of interest. Pebbles got blamed for everything when she was only part of the problem. The problem was they were signed to LaFace through the production company and not directly to the label because TLC was Pebbles' creation and she had ownership of it. TLC got caught up in a bad situation. It wouldn't have been a huge problem if they didn't have the huge success. No one expected them to be that huge and when they went on to generate a lot of money for LaFace and Arista. Pebbitone and TLC were the last to see money everyone else got paid the most and first. Toni Braxton had a similar problem and sued and won 20M from LaFace/Arista. TLC got bad legal advice to go bankrupt and sue Pebbitone they should have sued Arista and LaFace as well. LA Reid threw Pebbles under the bus to save his job and keep Arista's biggest pop group on the label and it cost him his marriage. TLC was screwed due to way more factors than Pebbles! Getting out of the Pebbitone contract was a good move but they never got the big windfall of money from Arista/LaFace they deserved. They should have paid up atleast 5M per girl!
Lisa was the energy and the spirit of the group…it never was even remotely the same without her
There will never be another Left Eye or TLC ❤
Truth!
They all needed each other. We seen when they all tried going solo.
The fact that Fanmail only had 3 singles is a crime!!!
Because it was a terrible album that had like two good tracks on it.
@@KrisBryant99 I kinda agree, it was an underwhelming album compare to CrazySexyCool album.
@o13sweetboy if the album had stuck in the direction of No Scrubs with that out of space vibe then it could've been a masterpiece.
A crime
@@KrisBryant99terrible Album? That’s your irrelevant opinion. The Album went number one. Don’t call an album terrible if you can’t do better
They did Left Eye dirty as group with No Scrubs. Her rap made that song I used to sit in front of MTV for ages just so I could watch the video and rap along…’ Let me check my vernacular and lemme get back to ya!’ Fanmail as whole is my fav album of all time from Lovesick to My Life to Unpretty it was ahead of its game. Happy 25th FanMail you have been with me since I was 10. RIP LeftEye
the rap is not part of the song on the album but instead an alternate song i.e no scrubs (rap version)
the rap is not part of the song on the album but instead an alternate song i.e no scrubs (rap version)
I know that, I was saying how criminal it was, that it actually didn't feature on the album.
@@geoffparks7577 Her rap wasn't added to the song until the album was already out, they made it the video version since the album was already in stores.
I'm MAD they didn't put Lefteye's verse for No Scrubs on the Album! That's best part!
‼️‼️ period
Facts
'Good at being bad' went platinum in my house!
Went platinum in my bedroom! (used to be a hooker)
😂😂😂 Nice one
TLC & SWV debuted the same year. SWV wanted the name “TLC” because it matched their real first-name initials. The name was already given to TLC.
Wow, I didn’t know that.
Yeah that whole part where he said SWV used TLC as inspiration was def not accurate.
CSC was the album that made TLC the group they were! it solidified TLC's status as a top girl group of the 90s! great album!
CSC solidified them as the top girl group of the 90s. It went diamond. No other girl group in the 90s achieved that. We have to start remembering TLC’s legacy correctly. They were the best selling girl group of the 90s, not just one of them.
Fanmail and Crazy Sexy Cool are There best albums like I can’t choose between them. Fanmail was such a good concept Lisa was ahead of her time she really doesn’t get the credit in rap and in music she deserves. This album should have had more singles. A timeless album. Love your videos you really go into detail
You did a wonderful job with this. What an iconic, legendary group TLC. They changed the whole game. May Left Eye continue to rest in peace. TLC is forever
While Lisa was incredibly ahead of her time with Fanmail... I do think that's crazy she was so upset the other members didn't want to do a more raunchy concept.
Like what do you mean you wanted to do webcaming and other erotic acts? Like this is an album for the fans and while i know some of them may have been freaks you still have a mass audience to appeal to.
It was basically onlyfans before onlyfans she was always ahead of the curve!
AND T-Boz’s first solo single also produced by Dallas Austin was called “Touch Myself” ummmm what?!
@@charlesvanness1021 oh wow... so why even act like that concept was too much??
I never heard anything of the sort and I am a diehard TLC fan!!!
@@charlesvanness1021maybe she wasn’t too comfortable with all that at the time
Lisa isn't on the track, "Automatic". However, she does feature on the track before that song, "Shout".
"Shout" is track 11, "Automatic" is track 16. The last song to feature Lisa on Fanmail was the "Communication Interlude", track 14.
this album was one of my personal faves of 1998/9!
I listened to it again recently, and all of the songs stand the test of time. That’s not an easy feat.
Which member of the group got pregnant ??? I do believe Chili was messing around with Reid,no doubt.
Being there and being quite aware. My only critique is the "No Pigeons" Thing. There was a lot of time spent on this "Conflict" (In this video) But I honestly don't remember anything about that song or the group who released it. In fact, I don't recall ever hearing it, I think maybe it wasn't as important as it seems like it might have been.
I remember seeing a brief clip of the "No Pigeons" video once as part of a "new releases" segment on a music channel. That was it. I don't remember it being a big deal at all.
Right,most people found it hilarious🤣. We were singing it on the playground at school.
Sporty Thieves is the Group & Just like TLC 1 of their members passed away
Oh it was definitely a thing. Remember boys getting in trouble for calling girls pigeons but girls not getting the same energy when calling lil boys scrubs. Smdh. 😂 both set the community back a bit
No one cared, except for Kandi, bc she wanted her royalties from copying she and tiny's song. That song was less irrelevant than Billie Jean's female rebuttal of the song. Lol!
TLC is ICONIC!! As huge as this album was it could have been even bigger becauze there are so many songs that couod have been singles. I always thought My Life would have been a awesome single. So many other songs
My Life was a banger!
Fantastic video! Very thorough! I’m a lifelong TLC Stan and can confirm you did your homework! Thank you for shining a spotlight on my girls and their legacy.
It’s been 25 years and I STILL feel that the photo at 23:21 should have been the OFFICIAL ALBUM COVER
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Great video bro!
This album is timeless period!!! I play it alot when I get the feeling of listening to it. It really pushed TLC's sound of r&b/pop and hip hop into another direction sonically. Vocally, conceptually, and visually "Fanmail" opened the doors for r&b futuristic pop and hip hop to become relevant. My favorite tracks are "No Scrubs", "Unpretty", "Silly Ho", "I'm Good At Being Bad", and etc. Chilli, T-Boz, and Left Eye really carved out their own lane in music. And inspired many girl groups to do the same hands down period!!! Keep up the amazing work!!! 💖
Thank you - appreciate the support from one creator to another 🙏🏾
Omg just being here I just graduated high school 1999 . Freshman year of college try days . ❤❤ chat room of fan mail during that time of fan mail.
Same lol I finished in 99 too
Oh lawd @ you mentioning the Fanmail chatroom, i remember those days like it was yesterday! Between that and the Ms. Janet chatroom, i was an online menace at the time 🤣🤣 These kids today WOULD NEVER understand!
@@NastyBrkdwn lol me too 😂😂
Lisa was TLC! Dont get me wrong, T and Chilli were amazing, but Lisa was the genius behind the scenes. She came from a generation of fame. There wouldn't be a TLC had Lisa not left Philly.
The no scrubs, unpretty and waterfalls videos were Lisa's concept. Most dont know she was the Executive producer for Lil Kim's, lady's night remix. Most thought it was Missy. Lol
I didn’t know she EP Ladies Night. Left Eye was a visionary much like Tupac and Aaliyah
@@thediaryofamusicfreak she was good friends with Tupac
Timbaland, Missy and Aaliyah.... Is where the futuristic /r&b/ alternative / electronic / dance music / Hip Hop mashup started...they influenced everyone going forward including this album from TLC... But TLC influenced Aaliyah's early career
Great job with this video. Really put into perspective how ahead of their time they were.
Thank you for watching 🙏🏾 it was actually one of the first ideas I had when I started the channel but always knew it was going to be a long one and wanted to do the full story justice.
Tlc remain criminally underrated
Underrated by who?? They’re the 3rd best selling girl group of ALL time?
@@hellobye7697 Right? Lol. TLC: The best-selling American female group and the second best-selling female group in the world, selling over 50 million records.
I agree. They dominated the 90s as the top female group. However, today, the industry does not recognize and honor and their legacy enough. They should be receiving all kinds of tributes and lifetime achievement awards.
Amazing analysis as always. Been watching you for over a year and I'm mad at myself for just now subbing to u. Please do one on Missy's catalog, I would love to hear your pristine commentary.
Thank you - sorry I thought I’d replied to this yesterday. Love the work you do too. Always curious what you’ll find and post next ☺️
I love T-Boz's club scene in the No Scrubs video.
I love your videos and work can you do Welcome to the dollhouse by danity Kane and Destiny Fulfilled era by Destiny’s child
Thank you 🙏🏾 I was thinking about Destiny Fulfilled recently and how it does get enough praise for what it did for R&B and DC as a whole
@@thediaryofamusicfreaka era and their best album Next to writings and survivor
I also love Lefteye's scenes in the No Scrubs Video!
I’m so thrilled to have found your channel. Can’t wait to binge watch!
'just like you ...i get lonely tooooooooooo .... fanmail!!!"
Dear Lie wasn’t the best choice for the third single.
i'll never get why thay chose Dear Lie as a second ballad, when they had Bangers like Silly Ho, I'm,good at being bad, Shout, My Life, If she knew.... all extra cool songs to release....i was disappointed
Although silly ho was my song and jam. I actually like dear lies and thought it made sense and didn't sound or seem out of place to be release as a single.
Dear Lie should not have been a single IMO Ibagree there's so many other good hits even the ones that didn't make the album the bonus songs But Fanmail or I'm good at being Bad or My Life or Shout were bangers
Crazy = Left Eye / Sexy = Chili / Cool = T-Boz ❤❤❤
I love Chili's sexiness in the No Scrubs video!
Lisa looks like Kelly Rowland when she was up at the mic (Grammys Questions)
Nice video breakdown of this album
Thanks for watching 🙏🏾
CrazySexyCool is the best body of work they ever released. Fanmail is second to CrazySexyCool. Of course Fanmail has iconic hits but that orange album is dope👌
CrazySexyCool is red, not orange 💯%
Don't sleep on oooooooohhhhhh on the TLC tip. All of their albums were really solid albums!
just imagine how much smoother the eras wud have went if drama and tensions wasnt heavily involved
I know, they could have easily got another couple of singles from the album
I’m sorry but at 49:32 to keep seeing tboz doing that eye movement on a loop is making me 😂
You need to keep going!!! After that performance of MUSIC, Comes and Amazing Version of Erotica which kinda blendes to a Mashup of Lucky Star and Hung Up!! you gotta see thesbafrom front to back that whole ending with those 3 songs blended its AMAZING!!!!!!!!
No pigeon? Never heard of it!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Literally it must’ve been not a huge hit for it to rarely be mentioned
FanMail was way ahead of its time! Although it sold extremely well, it’s a shame that internal struggles within the group prevented prevented this album to truly soar.
They were diamonds while Pebbles was...pebbles
I loved FanMail! Didn’t know all these drama was happening behind the album while my sixth grade ass was enjoying listening to it 😭
the last tlc concert i went to was fanmail i also went to crazysexycool i remember after the fanmail concert i was sooo mad at Left Eye cause she really seemed like she could care lesssss
chilli and tboz really showed more reverence for what the fans were experiencing and it was obvious left eye was reaaaallly disconnected
I'm super curious to know what show and leg you attended 🤔. I saw TLC during both legs of the Fanmail tour, and Left Eye was hyped. They had internal issues during the first leg in 99 but hid it pretty well for the show. Regardless of what was happening behind the scenes during the first leg, you can see their love and chemistry during the second leg. The Fanmail tour was 🔥.
I didn’t know that about Fan2C. They can’t be prudes now like The first and second album was so clean and sex free, especially with Chili’s interlude on CSC, Ain’t To Proud To Beg, Is How It Works from the Waiting To Exhale album and even I’m Good At Being Bad on Fanmail. Seems like every opportunity TLC had to grow and be cool here go Chili and TBoz ruining things. Chili didn’t even want to participate in the No Scrubs video. She was the only one who didn’t have their own sci-fi outfit in the video.
And I found out it was by choice.
🤔
The raps of Lisa didn’t go with what you said about rap music. That was a very stereotypical thought that Lisa didn’t fit in.
I was gonna say that was the complete antithesis of Lisa her raps were uplifting
@TheRealArrendondo thanks for watching, I assume you’re referring to the part about raps being removed from being played on the radio. I was explaining why some radio stations remove the rap sections from songs in general - it wasn’t specifically about Lisa’s raps being removed, maybe I didn’t make that clear I. do agree though that her raps were always very uplifting and positive
Can you do Selena Dreaming of you or Amor prohibido? AP was her album before going into English but there was so much goin on at that time in her young life. I love your videos and all the information you share❤
"Who fail to meet women's standards?"
I remember on the Tom Joyner Morning Show wouldn't play any R&B songs that had a rap verse in it. Even Gospel songs too.
You had to be there to understand the cultural importance of this record
I do not think Left Eye wanted to do that other concept for fanmail sounds like a lie smh
And I hate when people say stuff like that after their deaths because they're not there to defend themselves
CrazySexyCool was a critically acclaimed masterpiece with immense commercial success and cultural impact, but the production on Fanmail was way ahead of its time (people don't talk about this enough). I also feel like non-TLC and general casual listeners don't know much about the success and impact of the Fanmail album, which is unfortunate.
Fanmail was the first album by a female group to DEBUT at the #1 spot on the Billboard 200 and spent more weeks at number one than any other girl group in music history (tied with Spice Girls).
- TLC was the only artist/group with TWO number-one songs from the same album in the 99 calendar year.
Fanmail received the second-most Grammy nominations of all artists/genres at the 2000 Grammys (including the top categories) and is to date the ONLY R&B or pop female group to be nominated for Album of the Year.
Fanmail was the best-selling R&B album of 1999 and was amongst the best-selling albums of 1999 overall.
I feel that the Fanmail era had a solid run and did what it was supposed to do. From the album's production to the aesthetic, it was an innovative body of work that cracked the doors for other r&b/pop groups to follow during the Y2K era. Silly Ho and Im Good At Being Bad were promo tracks and not “official” singles, but they were still bangers that got hip-hop station airplay (at least where I grew up). In the summer of 99, I literally remember changing the radio stations and hearing No Scrubs, Unpretty, and Im Good At Being Bad being played on the same day. I don't think Dear Lie or an “official” third single was needed, but that's just my opinion. They finished the full-year Fanmail era by wrapping up their tour, getting their Grammys, and releasing a very successful pay-per-view concert special. Also, Tboz was pregnant during the second leg of the Fanmail tour, so she was able to take the time to focus on a safe and healthy pregnancy. Despite all the ups and downs during the Fanmail era, it was still a vibe and probably my fav era of TLC!
Crazy Sexy Cool is definitely one of the greatest albums of all time. Fanmail was very great but it couldn't compete against CSC.
Thanks so much!, for a revived version of the story of TLC's dealings... I believe still Pebbles had inner workings within what was going on with this group because she always claimed that she's been there before them so she was always trying to help them out, And I'm trying to figure out in what way?🕛🔄🎶🎤🧠
In a group there’s always going to be a rift or drift of wanting to go solo at sone point unfortunately that’s what happens
This was GOOD!
Thank you 🙏🏾
still one of the go to albums ❤
Pebbles was a scapegoat it was LaFace and Clive (Arista) who stole their money. Pebbitone was also co-owned by LA Reid but somehow Pebbles gets all the smoke when in reality they should have sued LaFace and Arista like Toni did (she got 20M). The Pebbitone deal was a bad deal they should have renegotiated after the first album was a huge success. TLC was Pebbles' group she put the entire group together LaFace used her as the scapegoat to keep their biggest pop act on their roster and LA Reid threw his own wife under the bus to keep his boss (Clive) happy. LA and Pebbles divorced because of this TLC drama. Pebbles was no walk in the park, but she wasn't the monster everyone makes her out to be. VH1 had to pay Pebbles a couple of million for that movie and the false portrayal. TLC deserved more money and sadly they never did get the money they deserved. Arista and LaFace did them so wrong. Had TLC been on Columbia they would be rich rich, but then again the music wouldn't be the same. LaFace's production is what made them stand out. I also hated that radio often cut Lefteye's raps out of most of the singles. TLC got screwed because they were signed to a production company that was signed to the label. They were not directly signed to LaFace like most artists so the production company absorbed most of the risk and got the financial windfall if they were hugely successful. This was common practice En Vogue had a similar deal with East/West and Elektra.
Fav songs : Unpretty and Silly Ho....other likes: im good at being bad, i miss you so much, dear lie, lovesick .
I ❤️ TLC!
Me too ☺️
If TLC was no sucsess than all money that was put on the group was long gone and lost. The group had sucsess. I think its better
Fan mail is tlc best album
I’m always torn between Fanmail and Crazy Sexy Cool but I think this one wins due to the concept. It was so well done
No, it's not.👍CrazySexyCool is their best album.
CrazySexyCool Takes that #1 spot always!
@@thediaryofamusicfreak you doing on about 3d it great album 💿
Crazy, sexy, cool was by far the best cd! I hate they filed bk, bc kick your game, switch and if I was your gf were amazing tracks! They did a Prince song and nailed it on a level just as great, if not better, than prince!!!
Funny how Dallas and the team rejected Fan2See, but allowed songs like "Good At Being Bad" on the album lmaoooo
who sang fan2see
Baby I miss you so much would have been a hit if they had released it instead of dear lie
I agree I think another song would have served better than Dear Lie as the third single. I would have preferred Don’t Pull Out On My Yet as it showcases that the group could sing well together
@@thediaryofamusicfreak I just listened to don't pull out on me and I don't even remember it because I do not receive the Fanmail album well. I skipped most of the songs. Dont pull out on me sounds like a track from the crazysexycool Album a typical TLC song. Baby I miss you so much was a popular song out here in Jamaica but was too young to care until when I was older I was listening to some throwback grooves and the radio DJ mentioned their name I was shocked because it was different, not a TLC sound thats why i love it so much.
Was Pebbles working during the time the biopic came out? If not how was any of what was in it tarnishing her name? You paying the group you managed dust in the 90s tarnished enough
Can You Please Do Destiny's Child Destiny Fulfilled Next Please 🙂🙌🏿🫶🏿👍🏿💯
I don't like this album
You haven't seen Sporty Thivez since that lame-ass song!
u forgot silly ho. it peaked #55
CrazySexy cool was there best album
Digging on you is my ish
😂😂 @ quitting because your bandmates wont start the first Only Fans with you 20 years ahead 😂 RIP Left Eye, my Gemini queen
There was a lot of male bashing songs around the late 90s early 00s.
Is it really male bashing? Telling what women want in men isn’t bashing
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Easily their worst album ( and I don’t count their last album released a few years ago)
Disagree
@@dasiareed2708 and that you have that right. But it is certainly not better than the first two albums. And 3 D was slightly better in my opinion. There was not enough left eye on Fan Mail. Too many ballads. Not enough fun songs. Only 4 single worthy songs. No scrubs SAVED the album. Til this day it is the only song anyone plays from the album.
@@OmarHudson it’s sad they didn’t have any hits because there were many
@@dasiareed2708 are you saying that Fan Mail was better than 3D?
@@OmarHudson I didn’t say that I said Fanmail isn’t their worst album
ah (fanmail)
Just like you, I get lonely too
Ah (fanmail), ah (fanmail), ah (fanmail)
Just like you, I get lonely-
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