While on set of the New Edition mini-series a few of the actors and artists got into a heated debate over whether or not if the R&B group Jodeci was Iconic.
Legendary- remarkable enough to be famous; very well known. Icon- a person or thing regarded as a representative symbol of something. Jodeci is iconic. They represent fusion of hip hop & r&b in a mostly hip hop generation.
Aish you may be right. the lady in the video was right too, Kim K, according to the actual definition IS legendary. Like she said, you can be legendary and not be good.
Jodeci is iconic AND legendary. They gave us some of the BEST baby makers of the 90's and i've gone to two of their shows and the ladies STILL go wild. Yvette you and your opinion have been cancelled.
Iconic-legendary semantics. Jodeci gets much respect nonetheless. Forever My Lady is a classic album. Devante brought artists/producers like Ginuwine, Missy Elliott, Playa, Stevie J and Timbaland to the music industry and produced hit songs for many other artists-groups.
IGotItLikeThat by definitions iconic means widely recognized. That is up for debate with Jodeci. Some may argue ( not me) that they are not known workdwide. By definition legendary means well known. Like it or not Kim Kardashian is well known so by definition she would be considered legendary....don't shoot the messenger please
I always use Kim Kardashian as an example of a very well known, famous person but today's usage of "legendary" would not be applicable to her because she is not "great" at anything of note.
why is she even mentioned? is she in music at all or does she even DO anything besides be naked and be an amateur porn star? she's "legendary" i guess in being famous for being mediocre
I'm gonna need her to sit down. People have seen her face but NO ONE knows her name. Jodeci changed R&B. They introduced the bad boy / hip hop element that no one had seen before. If it weren't for them there would be no Trey Songz or anyone else that straddle the lines these days. They are icons and legends.
To me, a Legend can be described as individuals who are famous and well known for the things they do in their particular line of work and has been doing it many years. An icon is a legend who is the face and representative of a specific genre of entertainment. For example, when you think of an basketball player, you think Michael Jordan. When you think of an Baseball player, you think of Babe Ruth, Pop Music- Michael Jackson, Comedy- Eddie Murphy, Male groups- Jackson 5(New Edition are getting there). Those are Icons.
rudegyaloving Exactly, Jodeci is Legendary. They really haven't been together or have done a lot like the top groups have like NE, J5, or the Temps to be iconic.
I agree ...but again JODECI would be considered iconic too...they set the trend for dark sunglasses...boots etc. singers before them wore matching suits or shining 2 pieces. Loud pastel colors. JODECI came with the docs...the shades and the jewelry. Baseball hats with a hard hip hop sound. JODECI sound exceeded BBD level with the new jack hip-hop and r&b wave. You gotta give it up for JODECI. Them dude SANG...they not entertainer..they SANG
I love that this was on BET you can't get any real than this... talking about legends and all with the legends themselves in the same room. This is beautiful to see and no ones getting mad...
imma sample the hell out of Jodeci's music to remind our generation and our predecessors just how ICONIC & LEGENDARY & CREATIVE & INFLUENTIAL K-Ci JoJo Mr. Dalvin & Devantè Swing truly are.
Just the same NO BLASPHEMY..but if u put Michael Jackson signature on a pencil guaranteed it'll sell millions. MJ is the most known man in earth besides Jesus Christ and..snoop Dogg 😅 everybody knows snoop@@Samito07
That woman had no idea what she was talking about and OF COURSE she was the loudest one in the room. Icon: A person or thing that is revered or idolized Legend: A collection of stories about an admirable person; a person who is the CENTER of those stories In music, a legend must be/have : a pioneer/trailblazer, an innovator, the one that everyone else in the industry has learned from and wants to be like, a career or legacy that has spanned 30+ years. Examples: The Supremes, James Brown, Aretha Franklin, Micheal Jackson, Whitney Houston, Prince (to name a few) In music, an Icon must be/have: the one with the "IT" factor, a trendsetter, a brand, respected by their peers, one who follows in the footsteps of the legends that came before them, a career that spans 15+ years Examples: Brandy, Usher, Destiny's Child(Beyonce/Kelly), TLC (among others). Within the R&B genre; Jodeci is definitely iconic.
No offense to New Edition but I didn't grow up listening to them. I knew of them and that they were big but I was a Jodeci fan. And hell mothereffin yes they're iconic and obviously legendary. On top of Kci and Jojo's vocals and Jodeci's tough r&b persona, DeVante's one of the greatest producers of all time hands down. This chick is lost.
In my general view, iconic reflects something that has entered culture (usually in spoofed or widely known fashion). Legendary may also encompass iconic facets, but is more basically something with a famous, successful or widely appraised reputation. Typically over a fair or lengthy amount of time.
Legends often span over generations and cultures while icons represent a specific time period or culture. I say Michael Jackson is BOTH legendary and iconic. His music has spanned over 4 generations (Baby Boomers, Generation X, Millennials, and Post Millenials listen to his music). Plus he is well known all over the world, and has been for many years. Jodeci is iconic. They are known for 90s hip-hop RB. When people think of 90s hip-hop RB music Jodeci is one of the many music artist that come to mind. Plus, I'm not sure that they are well known all over the world.
I look at legendary as Michael Jackson, Prince, Whitney Houston ,James Brown, Elvis Presley... the list goes on and on because those people have left behind a lot of music that people will listen to and enjoy FOREVER and listening to their music sounds modern even though they've recorded it years ago thats legendary to me. Iconic to me is Monica, Brandy , Destinys Child, Usher
Michael jackson is iconic,madonna is iconic,2pac is iconic,stevie wonder marvin gaye iconic,elvis is iconic. Jodeci falls in that legendary category to me.
Chris Gas Anyone can be an icon if they lead in that particular thing - whether you like that thing or not. If you think of them when you hear about that thing then they are an icon. The Kardashians are icons of reality TV as is Andy from Bravo TV who produces all the Housewive shows. They are both icons in that market. And I agree with Granola Bars - I like Jodeci's music but they did not stand out enough for me to be iconic or legendary.
Damn, the young boys teaching the old school. 😂😂👏 Legendary: remarkable enough to be famous; very well known.of, described in, or based on legends iconic: widely recognized and well-established an iconic brand name: widely known and acknowledged especially for distinctive excellence.
She knows EXACTLY what legendary means. If you look up the definition of legend it says "an extremely famous or notorious person." If you look up legendary one of the meanings is "very well known." Both descriptions fit Kim K. Yvette was right when she said you don't have to be good to be a legend. You just have to be super well known & talked about.
damn yvette, put some respeck on jodeci's name. they're iconic for the style and mentality they represented in the 90's, they brought the concept of thug r&b, with a self aware, earnest, and conscientious mindset to the forefront, they were considered the "bad boys" of r&b, yet they understood how to say what no one else was saying, while just barely scraping the cusp of adulthood. they're legends, because (if not as recognizable as the likes of other r&b "boy bands" coming up around the same period) they laid down the blue prints of just what exactly it meant to legitimately take r&b and, soul, to a place that it'd always meant to be taken to, not only that, but up until this point they hadn't released any records as a group in some 20 years, while still continuing to influence generations and generations of musicians in our modernist industry. i mean come tf on..
That's why Yvette Nicole Brown can't ever keep a steady role or acting job, she try to say Jodeci not iconic when R&B acts and groups still try to be like them, and Jodeci is always sampled on rappers and singers songs or mention in rappers songs, and Devante from Jodeci changed music with the beats and lyrics for Jodeci with Kci and JoJo voices and Dalvin helping them with the background vocals and arrangements and fashion, Drake singing Jodeci cry for you on controlla, and sampled them on how bout now, and Bryson tiller sampled them on forever how long, French Montana song that's constantly play on puff daddy ciroc commercials have the chrous come and talk to me like jodeci, plus many more people always talk about Jodeci
Jodeci is the reason R&B is what it is today period. all R&B is today is about sex and that was Jodeci persona. Jodeci, Bobby and BBD are the reason R&B is what it is today. They set trends and were the few that mixed R&B with Hip-Hop. that's Iconic
First of all - they are all sitting their with smart phones and not one of them thought to google search the definition of the words. Iconic and Legendary are similar - based on the words icon and legend. Nicole got them backwards though. I would say Kim Kardashian is iconic (she is definitely a reality star ICON) but she is not a legend by any means. Ricky bell said it best - Jodeci has a place in the history of black music that they have etched out, but they will not be remembered in history of music the same way a New Edition, a TLC, a Babyface or a Michael Jackson would - because I don't think they ever truly had a crossover appeal. They had some of the best music in R & B, but they did not do anything historical really in terms of breaking records or setting records. So in my opinion did not leave enough of mark. That's why i'm not even remotely interested in seeing a movie about them.
Jodeci still get sampled by rappers and r&b artists constantly and always mentioned, drake singing Jodeci cry for you on controlla, and sampled them on how bout now , and the song Jodeci back ft jcole, or Bryson tiller sampled them on forever how long, or puffy ciroc commercial with the French Montana song that have the chorus come and talk to me like Jodeci, you must be white with that corny ass opinion
I was looking at her like what. But when she brought Kim K into the argument I was through😂. She brought Mrs. Plastic into a debste about musical artist.
Legendary just means you're well known/popular; which means Jodeci is legendary, not iconic. This also means that Kim K is TECHNICALLY legendary based on the definition. You may not like her, hell I don't like her, but fact is fact. Now, the best example for iconic that I think everyone would agree with, is Michael Jackson. When a person is iconic they are acknowledge for their distinctive excellence/greatness.
now see.. I don't agree, its the complete opposite with the definitions to me. Kim K would be a reality tv or celebrity icon...while Micheal Jackson has reached both levels, but LEGENDARY holds more weight/title.
Ricky called it........SHE’S ALL THE WAY BUGGING!!! BY DEFINITION Jodeci is iconic and legendary because they’re pioneers. Definition of iconic 1 : of, relating to, or having the characteristics of an icon 2 a : widely recognized and well-established an iconic brand name b : widely known and acknowledged especially for distinctive excellence an iconic writer a region's iconic wines She’s showing out for NE....GROUPIE!!!! Even they(NE) know Jodeci’ s iconic... mike and Ron mad quiet. Brook Payne like ya’ll still talking bout that?????? “Groupie trick...doing too much”
This chick said "Kim Kardashian Is a legend" ok when was the last time Kim k filled a stadium to fans singing her songs word for word Back 2 Back? Don't worry I'll wait...
she is mixing up the definition of the words iconic is not greater than legendary iconic can be someone like Taylor Swift because iconic can mean role model where someone influence people to do things. Where fans will look up to that person whereas legendary is about everything records, how they change the game, they input and how successful they were. So legendary is greater if you go by the definition of the words. Jodeci probably is iconic to alot of people because they probably look up to what they did or the music they made.
Michael Jackson is iconic and legendary...and so is Prince. New Edition is iconic. The Isley Brothers are legendary and iconic. Jodeci is nowhere near on that level.
I feel like "legendary" stands for all time, it's forever. Michael Jackson is stamped in history. He's a legend & he was an icon that did iconic things. Our children's children will know him. Someone can be "iconic" for a moment in time-- an era; lol. So yeah, Jodeci is iconic to me lol. Not legendary.
"I'm 21, but I know music damnit!" I know that's right Algee
CrystalHairston2 yeah I hate when older ppl say you don't know music because your young .
Kay Brii ikr
CrystalHairston2 wait Algee just 21 😩😩😩 he soooo young . I thought he was round my age 24 dang so who is the oldest
Chrissyy L well he 22 now but Elijah and Luke are in their early 30s, Keith and woody are like 24 or 25, and yazz is 24 this year
That literally spoke to my spirit because SAME!
As soon as she said "Kim Kardashian" all the men said "Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo" I was done😁😁
Jataiya. Taylor lolol
Legendary- remarkable enough to be famous; very well known.
Icon- a person or thing regarded as a representative symbol of something.
Jodeci is iconic. They represent fusion of hip hop & r&b in a mostly hip hop generation.
tinker2217 if anything Kim k is iconic
Aish you may be right. the lady in the video was right too, Kim K, according to the actual definition IS legendary. Like she said, you can be legendary and not be good.
tinker2217 That's what I'm saying!
And gospel
Jodeci is iconic AND legendary. They gave us some of the BEST baby makers of the 90's and i've gone to two of their shows and the ladies STILL go wild. Yvette you and your opinion have been cancelled.
Britloves Quincy I agree. I don't know what Yvette is talking about.
When I think of legendary iconic male R&B groups Jodeci will always be included
Fax.
Jodeci is definitely Iconic .. Coming from a real Fan 💙
amen.
I second that motion.
Liisha Lii I agree
yeass girl
No question!
When she said Kim Kardashian was legendary she lost all credibility, and nearly all of my respect 😂😂.
Faxxxx😂😂I was like what??? Compared to MJ in the previous sentence??
Jodeci is legendary and Iconic. Period!
PharaohLawLess1 Yup just like R Kelly is
+Gaelle Saint-Louis yup yes they are
PharaohLawLess1 Agree ✅
She didn't just bring up Kim Kardashian in the middle of a musical icon/legend debate. The hell? 🙄😳
ASHLEMONADE 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
ASHLEMONADE I felt the same way. 😂😂😂😂😂
I would've shattered glass on the spot and walked away.
JODECI IS LEGENDARY AND ICONIC. TRENDSETTERS . RARE TALENT.
Ari Flowa I don't know would say legendary but not iconic, K-Ci and Jojo are iconic
I love debates like this because it shows how carelessly the words "legendary" and "Iconic" or "icon" are thrown around.
Brianna Sanders agree💯
Factsss like Kim K??👀👀 a legend??
Iconic-legendary semantics. Jodeci gets much respect nonetheless. Forever My Lady is a classic album. Devante brought artists/producers like Ginuwine, Missy Elliott, Playa, Stevie J and Timbaland to the music industry and produced hit songs for many other artists-groups.
IceManLikeGervin Exactly
And stay, freekin you, feenin, cry for you, cmon so many more😂😂love you 4 life, and let’s not include Kci and JoJo by themselves
1:26 Woody rubbing the pregnant ladies belly lol soo cute!
Elijah got yelled at 😂😂 & Algee looked like she got me bent 😂 love this cast & everyone who helped with this movie ❤️❤️
I'm mad this is even a debate... Jodeci = 90s R&B Icons!!
they should do a movie about jodeci and they are iconic.and im a big fan of them.
Rashanda Grier They are it's just going to be on VH1
That whats up.
Rashanda Grier Yeah and thank god it's not on Lifetime
Alright.
Rashanda Grier Yup
"I'm 21 but I know music d*** it" 👏🏾👏🏾 same baby!
Every male who is named Devante whether it's spelled that way or not came from that legendary iconic group BOOM
Jodeci is definitely Iconic & Legendary Algee so fine 👀
i think they're legendary
Ralph said the Ricky was the smartest in the group and he ain't lie! Ricky Bell explained that whole argument for the people.
just because she doesn't like them doesn't mean they not iconic she could have said she doesn't like them but give them their credit.
They all made good music but don't bring up Kim please. Don't downplay Jodeci either, they was the shit
She needs to do some SAT vocabulary prep to be qualified for the debate.
IGotItLikeThat I totally agree.
IGotItLikeThat by definitions iconic means widely recognized. That is up for debate with Jodeci. Some may argue ( not me) that they are not known workdwide. By definition legendary means well known. Like it or not Kim Kardashian is well known so by definition she would be considered legendary....don't shoot the messenger please
I always use Kim Kardashian as an example of a very well known, famous person but today's usage of "legendary" would not be applicable to her because she is not "great" at anything of note.
Yeah, she said that there are legends who aren't good?! Bish whet?
that kinda hurt when she said Kim Kardashian is legendary lol
Tera Right. How that come out
Kim k legendary👀👀👀👀👀😩😩😩😩,all these black women idolizing Kim k😱😱😱
why is she even mentioned? is she in music at all or does she even DO anything besides be naked and be an amateur porn star? she's "legendary" i guess in being famous for being mediocre
She got jokes because Kim is not legendary
It was disrespectful as hell
"Kim Kardashian's legendary"
*pitch in voice gets high* Nooooooooo
I'm gonna need her to sit down. People have seen her face but NO ONE knows her name. Jodeci changed R&B. They introduced the bad boy / hip hop element that no one had seen before. If it weren't for them there would be no Trey Songz or anyone else that straddle the lines these days. They are icons and legends.
Bell Biv Devoe changed R&B and Bobby Brown introduced the bad boy element.
To me, a Legend can be described as individuals who are famous and well known for the things they do in their particular line of work and has been doing it many years. An icon is a legend who is the face and representative of a specific genre of entertainment. For example, when you think of an basketball player, you think Michael Jordan. When you think of an Baseball player, you think of Babe Ruth, Pop Music- Michael Jackson, Comedy- Eddie Murphy, Male groups- Jackson 5(New Edition are getting there). Those are Icons.
Vonte Paige I like your interpretation. By this standard Jodeci can't be in the iconic conversation.
rudegyaloving Exactly, Jodeci is Legendary. They really haven't been together or have done a lot like the top groups have like NE, J5, or the Temps to be iconic.
I agree ...but again JODECI would be considered iconic too...they set the trend for dark sunglasses...boots etc. singers before them wore matching suits or shining 2 pieces. Loud pastel colors. JODECI came with the docs...the shades and the jewelry. Baseball hats with a hard hip hop sound. JODECI sound exceeded BBD level with the new jack hip-hop and r&b wave. You gotta give it up for JODECI. Them dude SANG...they not entertainer..they SANG
I remember when I used to watch TV and everyone was older than me. When Algee said he was 21, I had a reality check. 😂
I love that this was on BET you can't get any real than this... talking about legends and all with the legends themselves in the same room. This is beautiful to see and no ones getting mad...
imma sample the hell out of Jodeci's music to remind our generation and our predecessors just how ICONIC & LEGENDARY & CREATIVE & INFLUENTIAL K-Ci JoJo Mr. Dalvin & Devantè Swing truly are.
denay vonte YESSSSS
Michael Jackson is fucking Greatest of all time how is she saying he iconic????????? He is Legendary
he's BOTH.
So...Michael Jackson's not an icon!? He is one of the most if not THE most iconic individual that has ever existed.
jollyrancha Chewygummy the weight of the words is key. Icon carries more weight than legend
@@kokolatte825 No, that would be Jesus Christ! But MJ is an icon, just not the most iconic.
Just the same NO BLASPHEMY..but if u put Michael Jackson signature on a pencil guaranteed it'll sell millions. MJ is the most known man in earth besides Jesus Christ and..snoop Dogg 😅 everybody knows snoop@@Samito07
This should not even be a question. Jodeci definitely IS iconic.
Did she just say Kim K is legendary? Girl bye lol. Jodeci are Icons. They paved the way for a lot of these boy groups including Boyz 2 Men.
Jodeci did not pave the way for Boyz II Men.
@@NunayoBisnez Yea your right New Edition did
@@NunayoBisnez and the temptations
@@akumulight Don't forget get about the Jackson 5.
That woman had no idea what she was talking about and OF COURSE she was the loudest one in the room.
Icon: A person or thing that is revered or idolized
Legend: A collection of stories about an admirable person; a person who is the CENTER of those stories
In music, a legend must be/have : a pioneer/trailblazer, an innovator, the one that everyone else in the industry has learned from and wants to be like, a career or legacy that has spanned 30+ years.
Examples: The Supremes, James Brown, Aretha Franklin, Micheal Jackson, Whitney Houston, Prince (to name a few)
In music, an Icon must be/have: the one with the "IT" factor, a trendsetter, a brand, respected by their peers, one who follows in the footsteps of the legends that came before them, a career that spans 15+ years
Examples: Brandy, Usher, Destiny's Child(Beyonce/Kelly), TLC (among others).
Within the R&B genre; Jodeci is definitely iconic.
dru hill was Jodeci 2.0 they tell you that “people someone wants to be right” they’re legendary and iconic
Elijah turned his back on her 😂😂
Lmao Elijah was finna get in trouble
Tried to finess the question em by askin what the difference between legendary and iconic us lol
Jodeci the best group ever!!! they had the best voices ever, especially Kci you could just tell he came from a gospel background.
Am I the only one who noticed woody being cute/sweet with the pregant lady???
Anna bananas no lol
Keith walked in right when she said " Kim Kardashian's legendary " poor baby was so confused 💀💀
Yvette was trippin Lord, forgive her
No offense to New Edition but I didn't grow up listening to them. I knew of them and that they were big but I was a Jodeci fan. And hell mothereffin yes they're iconic and obviously legendary. On top of Kci and Jojo's vocals and Jodeci's tough r&b persona, DeVante's one of the greatest producers of all time hands down. This chick is lost.
the dude at 0:58 heated "THAT'S LEGENDARY" i was feeling the same way while watching this video
Ricky looks like he is so relaxed or is tye Word chilled? He takes his time and he looks like he is kind.🤗
Jodeci is Iconic and legendary. The best group of all time in my opinion.
Everytime I see Elijah Kelley I think about Sammy Davis Jr
In my general view, iconic reflects something that has entered culture (usually in spoofed or widely known fashion). Legendary may also encompass iconic facets, but is more basically something with a famous, successful or widely appraised reputation. Typically over a fair or lengthy amount of time.
There are ICONS that aren't great. Legends are often outstanding but undervalued
She doesn't know the vital part JODECI played in the industry. Do your research mama....
Legends often span over generations and cultures while icons represent a specific time period or culture.
I say Michael Jackson is BOTH legendary and iconic. His music has spanned over 4 generations (Baby Boomers, Generation X, Millennials, and Post Millenials listen to his music). Plus he is well known all over the world, and has been for many years.
Jodeci is iconic. They are known for 90s hip-hop RB. When people think of 90s hip-hop RB music Jodeci is one of the many music artist that come to mind. Plus, I'm not sure that they are well known all over the world.
Perfectly said.😂
She's out of her mind. Jodeci IS iconic for their vocal abilities and their ability to be trendsetters.
Jodeci is legendary, iconic is like Marvin Gaye, prince, madonna, even Selina is iconic. Technically Tito Jackson is legendary but MJ is an icon
I look at legendary as Michael Jackson, Prince, Whitney Houston ,James Brown, Elvis Presley... the list goes on and on because those people have left behind a lot of music that people will listen to and enjoy FOREVER and listening to their music sounds modern even though they've recorded it years ago thats legendary to me. Iconic to me is Monica, Brandy , Destinys Child, Usher
jodeci is totally iconic
I looked up the definition.....and she's right. Legend - known Iconic a person or thing regarded as a representative symbol of something.
New Edition are ICONIC and LEGENDARY
Whos the pregnant lady leaving with Woody 👀 lol
Vonye_West Cast member - the girl who plays his baby momma in the movie.
IGotItLikeThat She plays Ralph's Wife
Jodeci is Iconic! period! And legendary
Yvette is nonexistent to me now
Thank you for subscribing....but how can you agree with yvette....lol
I understand her definitions. Legendary does mean very well known or remarkable enough to be famous. I do believe Jodeci is iconic tho!!!
Michael jackson is iconic,madonna is iconic,2pac is iconic,stevie wonder marvin gaye iconic,elvis is iconic. Jodeci falls in that legendary category to me.
Michael is legendary. Jodeci is neither. Legendary is greater than iconic
Chris Gas Anyone can be an icon if they lead in that particular thing - whether you like that thing or not. If you think of them when you hear about that thing then they are an icon. The Kardashians are icons of reality TV as is Andy from Bravo TV who produces all the Housewive shows. They are both icons in that market.
And I agree with Granola Bars - I like Jodeci's music but they did not stand out enough for me to be iconic or legendary.
Damn, the young boys teaching the old school. 😂😂👏
Legendary: remarkable enough to be famous; very well known.of, described in, or based on legends
iconic: widely recognized and well-established an iconic brand name: widely known and acknowledged especially for distinctive excellence.
she doesnt know what legendary really means because people today have dumbed down the definition.
She knows EXACTLY what legendary means. If you look up the definition of legend it says "an extremely famous or notorious person." If you look up legendary one of the meanings is "very well known." Both descriptions fit Kim K. Yvette was right when she said you don't have to be good to be a legend. You just have to be super well known & talked about.
Yvette a dumb which her work in Hollywood ain't iconic nor legendary smdh
of course jodeci is. these young kids don't know. they were probably conceived to forever my lady
legendary but iconic in the rnb world
"keith powers is legendary" 😂😭
"I'm 21 but I know music dammit!" She got bae bent! Age doesn't limit your ability to know good music!
damn yvette, put some respeck on jodeci's name. they're iconic for the style and mentality they represented in the 90's, they brought the concept of thug r&b, with a self aware, earnest, and conscientious mindset to the forefront, they were considered the "bad boys" of r&b, yet they understood how to say what no one else was saying, while just barely scraping the cusp of adulthood. they're legends, because (if not as recognizable as the likes of other r&b "boy bands" coming up around the same period) they laid down the blue prints of just what exactly it meant to legitimately take r&b and, soul, to a place that it'd always meant to be taken to, not only that, but up until this point they hadn't released any records as a group in some 20 years, while still continuing to influence generations and generations of musicians in our modernist industry. i mean come tf on..
Break it down Slick!
You got it!!
I would say they were icons but MJ was legendary 🙏🏾💯 don't argue with me lol
There honestly shouldn’t have even been a debate in the first place.
That's why Yvette Nicole Brown can't ever keep a steady role or acting job, she try to say Jodeci not iconic when R&B acts and groups still try to be like them, and Jodeci is always sampled on rappers and singers songs or mention in rappers songs, and Devante from Jodeci changed music with the beats and lyrics for Jodeci with Kci and JoJo voices and Dalvin helping them with the background vocals and arrangements and fashion, Drake singing Jodeci cry for you on controlla, and sampled them on how bout now, and Bryson tiller sampled them on forever how long, French Montana song that's constantly play on puff daddy ciroc commercials have the chrous come and talk to me like jodeci, plus many more people always talk about Jodeci
Jodeci is definitely iconic. And being legendary is superior than being iconic.
See i put Iconic above Legendary I will like to know your reason though just for the other prospective
Jodeci is both legendary and iconic.
Kim Kardashian and legendary should never be used in the same sentence 😂😂😂😂
Jodeci is the reason R&B is what it is today period. all R&B is today is about sex and that was Jodeci persona. Jodeci, Bobby and BBD are the reason R&B is what it is today. They set trends and were the few that mixed R&B with Hip-Hop. that's Iconic
if she thinks Jodeci is not iconic she should be no where near music.... Jodeci is iconic, legendary, and the shit... ALWAYS!
Jodeci= Iconic
Michael Jackson= Legendary
Kim Kardashian= Neither
0:11. BOOM💣💥💣💥💣💥
She is right, legendary can be well known it doesn't mean that someone is great i get where she's coming from
First of all - they are all sitting their with smart phones and not one of them thought to google search the definition of the words. Iconic and Legendary are similar - based on the words icon and legend. Nicole got them backwards though. I would say Kim Kardashian is iconic (she is definitely a reality star ICON) but she is not a legend by any means.
Ricky bell said it best - Jodeci has a place in the history of black music that they have etched out, but they will not be remembered in history of music the same way a New Edition, a TLC, a Babyface or a Michael Jackson would - because I don't think they ever truly had a crossover appeal. They had some of the best music in R & B, but they did not do anything historical really in terms of breaking records or setting records. So in my opinion did not leave enough of mark. That's why i'm not even remotely interested in seeing a movie about them.
Ayommari True.
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Jodeci still get sampled by rappers and r&b artists constantly and always mentioned, drake singing Jodeci cry for you on controlla, and sampled them on how bout now , and the song Jodeci back ft jcole, or Bryson tiller sampled them on forever how long, or puffy ciroc commercial with the French Montana song that have the chorus come and talk to me like Jodeci, you must be white with that corny ass opinion
I agree with you Ricky!!
so you have to crossover to be remembered or remarkable? 🙄
y'all Algee said he is 21 but he know what is music
I was looking at her like what. But when she brought Kim K into the argument I was through😂. She brought Mrs. Plastic into a debste about musical artist.
Mike Bivins even wanted to work with Jodeci.
Legendary just means you're well known/popular; which means Jodeci is legendary, not iconic. This also means that Kim K is TECHNICALLY legendary based on the definition. You may not like her, hell I don't like her, but fact is fact. Now, the best example for iconic that I think everyone would agree with, is Michael Jackson. When a person is iconic they are acknowledge for their distinctive excellence/greatness.
now see.. I don't agree, its the complete opposite with the definitions to me. Kim K would be a reality tv or celebrity icon...while Micheal Jackson has reached both levels, but LEGENDARY holds more weight/title.
no you're going by what the dictionary says. But the word legend or legendary means more than just being famous in they way people use it today.
Keitra Robinson nar Kim K is infamous, thats sutten different
Mr Numba 1 she's not infamous.
MrThekidisback she's infamous for that Ray Jay thing, that doesn't mean to say she hasn't made some positive moves since.
Ricky called it........SHE’S ALL THE WAY BUGGING!!! BY DEFINITION Jodeci is iconic and legendary because they’re pioneers.
Definition of iconic
1 : of, relating to, or having the characteristics of an icon
2 a : widely recognized and well-established an iconic brand name
b : widely known and acknowledged especially for distinctive excellence an iconic writer a region's iconic wines
She’s showing out for NE....GROUPIE!!!! Even they(NE) know Jodeci’ s iconic... mike and Ron mad quiet. Brook Payne like ya’ll still talking bout that?????? “Groupie trick...doing too much”
Jodeci set a new template for groups to follow. They also helped develop future icons in their camp🐐🐐🐐🐐
Jodeci is absolutely Iconic bc of the image, era & the song selection. But, Jodeci isn't legendary.
Just because you sell the most doesn't mean your the Best
exactly
Jodeci is definitely iconic! Coming from a fan...
This chick said "Kim Kardashian Is a legend" ok when was the last time Kim k filled a stadium to fans singing her songs word for word Back 2 Back? Don't worry I'll wait...
She doesn't need to debate
Michael Jackson is Legendary Jodeci yes they are Iconic and Rickey explained it perfectly.
She triiiieeeeeedddddd it! She know damn well she know every Jodeci song. 😒😒
"Kim Kardashian is legendary!"
No she didn't 😂😂💯🤘🏿
I dont get how Legendary is Greater than ICON when ALI JORDAN MARLEY JIMBROWN HENDRIX MICHAELJACKSON etc are all known Icons
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she is mixing up the definition of the words iconic is not greater than legendary iconic can be someone like Taylor Swift because iconic can mean role model where someone influence people to do things. Where fans will look up to that person whereas legendary is about everything records, how they change the game, they input and how successful they were. So legendary is greater if you go by the definition of the words. Jodeci probably is iconic to alot of people because they probably look up to what they did or the music they made.
Michael Jackson is iconic and legendary...and so is Prince. New Edition is iconic. The Isley Brothers are legendary and iconic. Jodeci is nowhere near on that level.
No offense , that's like saying is Bell biv devoe iconic?
I feel like "legendary" stands for all time, it's forever. Michael Jackson is stamped in history. He's a legend & he was an icon that did iconic things. Our children's children will know him.
Someone can be "iconic" for a moment in time-- an era; lol. So yeah, Jodeci is iconic to me lol. Not legendary.