I bought an RX VEGA 56 Graphics Card in 2023
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- In this video we're looking back at the AMD Radeon RX VEGA 56. This $400 GPU from 2017 was positioned to take on the Nvidia GTX 1070 and in a lot of cases, it won. How is it holding up today, and is it worth it?
0:00 Introduction, Noise and the MSI Air Boost Vega 56
1:18 Cyberpunk 2077, a Disappointing Start
2:21 Fortnite
2:58 Red Dead Redemption 2
3:30 Elden Ring
4:03 Forza Horizon 5
4:26 The Last of Us
5:12 Hogwarts Legacy
5:46 Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered
6:13 Halo Infinite
6:39 The Witcher 3 Next Gen
7:19 Grand Theft Auto V
7:56 Call of Duty MW2 and Final Thoughts
Thanks for watching :) 
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I have this exact card! It's not that bad; I tell myself the noise is just reminding me how hard it's working :D
it means its getting hot because of a bad architecture lol, I had a vega 56 and sold it a week later and got a gtx 1080 for about the same price I sold the vega 56 and it was 10x quieter and faster
@@kyles8524 that was a good deal! TBF, I bought mine new from a retailer at a great discount and still using it 4 years later, so I'm happy enough. Mine performs slightly better than shown in this video after increasing the power limit and undervolting
@@tomvandongen8075 I ended up selling the 1080 with the oem box and everything for 400 USD in the GPU crisis back then. I only have a 1080p monitor at 60 hz. I sold it to someone for 400 + there gtx 1060 6 gig cause I only play like 3 games.I use an RX 6600 now which competes with the rtx 3060 but it was $150 off so it was %$219 with 2 free games, one I didnt care about called callisto protocol but came with dead island 2 which is an okay "meh" game. But when you turn vsync on to lock 60 fps the card only pulls like 45 watts of power and im locked at 60 fps in all games I play
i have to get my fans on my 4070 to 50% to hear it.
@@kyles8524 This is a myth that gets repeated. The card is cooler than the previous generation. It's perfectly quiet in the other cooler styles like Red Devil or Sapphire Pulse.
Undervolting is a must with these cards. You can get higher performance because of low power limits
Yep these cards are so terribly tuned by deafult. The only gpus i know where LOWERING the voltage gives you more performance? Also the memory clock is far too low by deafult. My card can get ane xtra 120 MHz over the deafult 800, but many people can get to 1000 MHz on the HBM
That plus vega 64 vbios on a vega 56 and you are in business.
@@wile123456I won the lottery in that regard, got one of the 1ghz memory clock cards. Works great with the vega64 bios.
@@blunderingfool i could get to 985mhz on my red devil vega 56
@@RidinSpinners36 Any luck with the Vega 64 bios or is your card not dual-bios compatible?
My Vega 56 served me well for over four years.
Lowering the voltage and raising the power limt worked really well on my card, raising the performance quite a bit. It does require a quality psu tough.
I upgraded to a RX6800 only a few months ago, the Vega is still happily working in my brothers pc.
How many your psu gpu pin
I just got a Vega 56 today, Sapphire brand but reference style. Just on stock bios, settings 165W seems ok in temps and fans speeds, but it's hot in Melbourne today so I had a desk fan running beside me.
If the fan annoys me, I'll look into undervolting. Looks like current AMD drivers let's you choose to undervolt from the software in Windows...
I had a vega 64 and a vega56. The pulse 56, was an absolute banger of a card, so fun to tune and play with.
yeah, the Vega 56 Pulse was awesome. I'm a bit sad that I sold mine last week.
@@jpfidalgo7 Had a Pulse as well, got it when they dropped below $300 in April 2019 (had some game code promo too but I forget which). Was a great card, ended up grabbing a 3080 2 years later, but the Pulse ran great and drivers aged well.
I've got the Nitro Vega 64, that thing is a monster that still handles itself really well, even by today standards.
@@W3DRK They cop for a lot of unwarranted hate
I was thinking of building a SteamOS game console with mine laying around. I messed with tweaking it a bit but got impatient so I set it aside but have changed GPUs since then. I think it would be an amazing 1080p/1440p card with FSR scaling to 4K with a V64 BIOs and some undervolting/OC! I could have sold mine for $800 but decided not to in case I found a use for it because it's probably my favorite AMD GPU I've owned.
Bought my Vega 56 at the end of the previous mining crash for $200 (i flashed it with a 64 bios and undervolted/OC'd the HBM for MASSIVE performance improvements) and sold it during the last mining boom for $700. Bought a RX 6600 XT (significantly faster in new games and WAY quieter and less power hungry) and a 2TB SSD. I think i got my money's worth.
You timed that right. There was a point where you could sell a VEGA and buy a 3060 and end up with a faster card and money to spare.
Nice deals you got yourself. Nice.
i got my rx6800 during mining boom 21 for msrp so i sold my r9 390 that i bought for 150€back then for the exact same price so it was worth it :D
You sound like me. I went through several RTX (3060/3070) cards during the mining boom...I even mined off of them before I sold them to miners for a profit. I am fortunate enough to have a active local marketplace for PC parts, I could buy several new cards a day if I had the cash. Sometimes DIRT cheap. I scored a $90 2070S a few weeks ago, sold it for $200 a few days later.
Bros a proud scalper lol
i was wondering how everybody skipped these gpus, everyone jumped from rx 500 series to rx 5000 and 6000 series
Yeah seems like it haha. These were definitely more of an experimental purchase I think
Their price at their launch was high and they under-performed until the drivers matured a year or so after launch, the V56 went from lagging behind the 1070 at launch to regularly beating it out in games years later. I upgraded my 580 to a V56 since I was on a 1440p monitor and they dropped the price of Vega in the spring of 2019 significantly. It was great and held up well until I got a 3080 in spring of 2021. I think people at 1080p with a 570 or 580 didn't see the price worth paying and they just held out another gen, especially with their drivers getting better over time too compared to their nvidia counterparts.
that's easy what nvidia was offering was better for gaming..and the few of these that were out were copped by crypto miners due to the hbm and higher hash rates for Ethereum
They were not price competitive with Nvidia.
Crypto miners latched onto these like the facehugger from Alien, to an equally fatalistic result.
i forgot these graphics cards even existed
Yeah I do that sometimes haha
Don't feel bad, we all forgot
As soon as I had the notification I went "oh yeah, vega existed" 🤣 it was either the rx 580 or 5700xt... oops 🤣
Don't feel bad they really were forgettable cards even when they were launched
I actually keep these in my mind since i considered them at the time. But I completely forgot about the radeon vii up until recently when I saw one getting used in a old df video
Nice one! I had a Vega 56 prior to my launch 3070. It served me well for around a year.
I had a Vega 64 with blower cooler. It was great during winter as a heater for my house and handled games pretty good for the time.
The Vega cards are super underrated imo. I actually just bought this GPU from you, I can't wait to get to test it for some content too! I have some ideas floating around already.
I love my Vega56, Sapphire Pulse. Brilliant card - Not upgrading anytime soon given the outrageous price/performance around at the moment.
Definitely check out the HBCC function as well, cuz it can make vega56/64 really competent in some games that require more than 8gbs of VRAM with higher graphics settings
Games which hit the 8GB limit could benefit from setting this card to 12GB in the driver.
it will not help much.
@@boredape1257 Yup... As soon as that segment of memory gets used, you really feel it. It's an interesting concept though.
i went looking into these just 2 days ago and now you made a video of it, crazy
I owned the pulse 56 for several years and I have to say it made me appreciate the art of fine tuning my pc. Just out of the box its a power hungry and hot running lump, But a bit of tinkering and trying a few peoples settings showed me that you could really push it to match the 1070ti and sometimes even the 1080.
Awesome content, thanks again. :-)
I have one of these Vega56 since 2019, I found the best performance is whenever the card was under 70 Celsius. No amount of over/underclock would give as best an impact as just cranking the fan curve.
That 8GB of VRAM really does keep it running well under 1080p.
I doubt I'll sell it when I buy a newer card, its gonna run the 4k TV I'm setting up in my lounge.
I prefer the change back to more structured dialogue/speech during these tests rather than the live commentary during gameplay. 👌🏻 much appreciated, thanks for changing back.
The Vega lineup showing it’s still got a lot to offer for 1080p high quality gaming, even in todays harder to run titles 🥰💪😇👍😎
I'm glad these Vega's are getting to around $130. I remember I bought my Nitro+ Vega 64 for $300 in 2020.
Wow yeah they are dropping fast
i bought a Vega 64 for around $200 back in 2018
They are not worth it at that price point, i got rx 5700 xt for $124 (three fan too) and it's 20%+ more powerful
@@Dregomz02 I agree, better performance out there
I sold my vega 56 for 750e in 2020, bought 6700xt for the same money
Great vid as always
Appreciate it!
Just been watching your car channel. Very Interesting, and I loved that tractor! It's a pity that you rarely post there anymore, but cars can be expensive I know. I haven't driven for over 8 years not since my illness, and I really do miss it. Do you still have the land rover? Probably not as it was over 3 years ago. Anyway, loving this channel as well of course. Thanks for all your hard work.
The untapped potentail of the 56 and 64 is ridiculous. I've owned both and they are most certainly a tinkerers dream, so much fun to play with.
Yeah definitely enthusiasts cards
Another nice video! I really hope that you make a follow up with undervolting+overclocking the card as it helped them a lot back in the day.
Vega 56/64 biggest problem was the 1070/1080 in my opinion. They offered similar performance but the Nvidia cards consumed considerably less power and, especially at the beginning didn't have driver issues like the Vega.
In my country(Greece) people for some reason are a bit sceptical about the Vega family of cards so both 56 and 64 cost around 100 to 120€ as there is little demand for them after the mining crash. On the other gad, 1070 and 1080 could cost much more, 130-140€ is a regular price for the 1070 (usually 150€ as well) while the 1080 goes for around 170-180€ .
After some good searching i found for my brother a 100€ Asus ROG STRIX 1070 and just the other day for 115€ a Founder's Edition which I will keep for a while for my secondary PC.
In Australia, 1070/1080 still around 150-200aud I think.
I just got Vega56 for $90aud which I think is pretty good deal.
RX570/580 now around $70-80aud.
0:50 our man here living dangerously what with the card placement right next to a pool :D
Haha yeah I was a bit nervous about this shot
5700XT is an insane value used rn, I got one in 2020 for MSRP, only sour point for me was the fact it started dying after 2 years & XFX's warranty is only 2 years in the UK/EU (but is 3 in the US), so got a 6650XT as a replacement
How come you went with 6650 over the 6700XT, unless you got it for a bargain?
@@AlexHusTech New ones have gone down a bit in price recently, new 6650 XT seem to often be cheaper than new 6600 XT now for some reason.
@@olnnn ah ok, I'm just waiting for 7700xt to come out, hopefully prices fall even more.
It's gonna age a lot worse than Turing in the long term. No DX12 ultimate support, no DLSS, and no RT support. It also had awful drivers for the first year it was out but that's not an issue anymore at least.
XFX cards are garbage. Look at the XFX RX 6400 SF versus the Saphire one. The Saphire one looks like it was made for Compaq in the early 2000's yet it performs thermaly way better than the SFX. SFX is the only big GPU partner I recommend against. PNY quality is an order of magnitude above it.
these videos are so useful
I've been using a flashed vega 56 since 2019/2020 right before the gpu price hike. It hasnt let me down personally, but I tend not to play brand new titles.
I used to use it with a 1440p display with great success before moving to two ultrawide 1440p displays stacked which is still does a fantastic job with.
At this point I'm just waiting for graphics card prices to become more competitive again, or for this card to be incapable of doing what I want.
I bought one of these for £50 and sold it for £350 a year ago. The owner thought it was faulty but it just needed tuning properly. I found using the alternative drivers which I read about in a forum and it ran better and never crashed after that. Mine had the Samsung memory and I flashed the Vega64 firmware. It was a great card I thought once I got it running nice.
I've been thinking about commenting to see if you were going to review one of these. I've got a Sapphire Nitro model and that thing still handles everything I throw at it great
WTF that 360 drift on 7:30 dude, this is insane
Blower gpu sounds is my ASMR to fall asleep
Will u do a vega 64 video?
BTW nice video
Love my Red Dragon Vega 56 still going strong!
My one and only kryptonite is graphics cards that look like that.
Yes, I need the thing that makes other things look good to look good itself.
Have you tried dxvk 2.0 for gta iv? I think it got an uprgaded version and I started recently playing, finally No stutter at 4K 60 fps lock.
Wee, Vega! Man.. Vega really wants a little more power and a noticeable undervolt (at least 75 milivolts) to climb a lot in performance, it will boost quite a bit by itself.
I picked up this exact card a few months ago to throw into a Steam PC along with a 4790. Amazing how the Vega56 comes out swinging this late in the game.
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@@KokoroKatsurano one gives af
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@@KokoroKatsura bet u think you're so cool replying with that 😻
Because they try to send the air out the back of the card, I suspect that blower style cards might actually have a slight edge in cooling performance in cases with poor ventilation. For me that usually means OEM cases, especially low profile ones. Of course, that doesn't stop them from being noisy.
going for 90-100 € in berlin currently... man i d really like to buy one of those. unfortunately i already have too much "retro hardware" without a real use other than checking them out and testing them once
I bought this exact card for 235GBP in 2019 and have just upgraded to a PowerColor Red Dragon 6800XT last month for 509GBP. Happy with both but the 56 was struggling to get 144fps on MWII comp settings without FSR and the 1% lows were tangible I'm most games. There was a full month where an MWII update caused a failure to boot the game at all for Vega cards so I knew it was time to upgrade after that.
I think I'd rather keep it as an antique than sell it on.
Had a lot of fun with my strix Vega 56 which i basically swapped for free for an 3070 and then a 6800 XT during 2021 😅
Good times for a student with too much time on their hands
I had this exact card. Got rid of it due to noise but it was fun to mess around with.
Just bought a Vega 64 Nitro+ for 100€ and Vega 56 Pulse for 70€, very happy with them. They are not as power hungry as many people say. Tweaking is fun and around 50% faster than my GTX 1060 I sold for 75€ after 5 years. :)
Those Forza Horizon 1 & .1% lows are amazing. Wow
Did you say you have a video that discusses the step buy step on tweaking this card? I purchased a used rig for my son and it has a MSi Vega 64 in it. It runs hot, I would like to know what you ended up with on your under-volt and other settings please. To help, the rig consists of an i5-9600K, DDR4 16x2 @ 3200Mhz, a 500GB WD Black NVME Gen3 and a 2TB Intel NVME Gen 3, MSi Vega 64, and an EVGA 750watt G+ power supply.
Just in time for winter.
I saw that you said wanted to oc/uv for another video. Could I ask to maybe try out bios flashing to a 64? to see the difference
Not with this VEGA.
Still rocking a Vega 64 strix on a water block. Undervolt for the win, great gpu still. Running with 1700x, who needs an upgrade Love seeing Vega cards still being used! Also I still play 4K games with this system.
Did you also experience hard-locks on the default clock-speed settings of this card? I have one in my possession, but I am still playing on my RX 480, because this Vega 56 hard-locks under load, even though I serviced it afterwards.
Always wanted one of these bad boys when they first came out but ended up getting a 1070 instead. I think me noise cancelling headphones would have been pushed to the limit with this afterburner-sounding card cooling on full pelt. Still though, impressive card, thanks for sharing 🙂
The VEGA Sapphire Pulse are plentiful, cheap and quiet.
I had a Vega 56 with Morpheus II cooler (5 slots thick with fans) and it was A BEAST! Maximum overclock and barely 50°C whisper quiet!
Do you think it would do crossfire with a Vega APU?
You should use the uncapped fps mod for your Elden Ring benchmarks IMO. More informative that way.
Hi RGinHD, I was wondering how your frametimes in cyberpunk were so low with the Vega 56 even at 50 fps
When I'm hitting 60 frames with a RTX 3060, I have up to 50ms in frametime which is weird :/
I have one of these, same MSI model with Samsung memory and molded die. Got way too loud even after an undervolt so slapped an AIO on it and it's solid.
I really liked The Vegas 64 AIO edition wish I would have kept it though I just know the 56 and 64 offer similar enough performance which I might actually buy my favorite GPUs of yesterday years
How is your performance on Jedi Survivor on this thing? Mine is horrendous.
"Air Boost"
I love it. I bet the original box also had a big mech or a 3D rendered pixie with big bazooms on it.
That was ye olde style of GPU boxes.
nice cards. i have a puls laying around modded with two 120mm fans . very silent and much cooler then stock .
Bought a Sapphire Vega 56 for 110€, which is not loud like referance at all. I'm very happy with it
Awesome :)
5600xt and 6600 are around 100 usd right now and it feels so amazing to have somewhat decent pricing
I still have my Vega 56 currently using it, I have the PowerColor Red Dragon model I have had for several years now
rx and vega old gpus are still amazing
Still have my Vega56 Powercolor Red Dragon. With some nice under-volting this card is still a small beast.
The MSI "Air Boost" was the brand of Vega 64 that I got about 4 years ago. It worked fine (i.e. stable) once I got an undervolt and aggressive fan setting to manage the heat, but the noise was a deal breaker for me. Besides being a space heater, it was like running a hair dryer that I could still hear even when gaming with headphones. Even woke up my wife one night. Finally got fed up with it after only 6 months and replaced it with a pricier GTX 2070 Super, which in turn I just recently replaced with a 6800xt. I never looked back until a couple of months ago when I dusted the old Vega 64 off the shelf and replaced the blower with an old Morpheus II. What a difference it made. I never would have gotten the 2070S if I had went this route years ago. The old girl still holds up pretty well with all my games.
I actually was using a Sapphire Pulse Vega 56 up until recently still really good in games and ran much quieter than this card, Have you heard about the bios update? that you do some overclocking of the GPU memory and it can boost the performance to close to the vega 64
These can match a VEGA 64 because fewer cores can overclock more.
Just bought the exact same card 16.12.23 for £50 UK. Card was disgusting full of dirt and clogged with dust. The thermal paste was rock solid. After a full tear down clean up and repaste with MK6 it’s a cracking buy. Set it to 1040mv 950 VRAM and 1662 core though typically sits at 1550-1575 50% PL. for £50 fantastic card
One day you'll win 2 rounds of Crossed Wands. I believe in you
Do you mind sharing me your Windows Version and your HDMI/Display Port cable?
Ive been having BSOD with my Vega 56 Air Boost
can the vega cards be undervolted and oc'd like rdna cards in adrenaline? if so I'd love to see how much performance you can squeeze out of these older cards today.
Yeah you should undervolt and overclock them a bit for less stress on the card.
I managed to score a reference model card for 50€ and a sapphire nitro one for 80€. Needless to say, I am more than happy with my purchases as those cards have more than enough power for the games I am playing.
Really good deals :)
I have a soft spot for reference cards. My first pc was kickstarted when a friend sent me an R9 290 reference and though I've moved on, (sent the whole pc (16gb ram i7 4790) to a friend with a dying rig and a gtx580) I've thought about buying another R9; mostly to look at.
I had a reference R9 290 for a while too! Super cool to look at but the noise of that thing was absolutely astronomical; an order of magnitude worse than this Vega 56 (which I'm currently using)
Still use a r9 280x vapor with an I5 750 in the living room media tower still plays csgo and bad company and doubles as a space heater on winter movie nights
Are you sure 1080p is the correct resolution for this card? I feel like the card would scale better at higher resolutions becuase of the HBM vram
Yeah, it does 1440p at a similar frame rate to 1080p. Might as well turn the settings up too.
I have the gigabyte version of the 56, been told it’s not the best AIB model but for me it just works with decent fps and frame times (mostly high settings at 1080p)
It was (and is) much better then everyone thought.
RGinHD is kind of a monster at mw2 now (when you compare to previous footage of mw2 testing he gets killed multiple times but here DAMN he good at this)
I just bought the gigabyte version for a 100 bucks I'm testing it now raid video by the way I love these used computer builds
I also have same problem woth R9 390x
Are all HBM cards are so badly tuned?
How does the Vega 64 handle games these days? Also which one is better value? The 56 or 64?
Flash the 56 with the Vega 64 BIOS and under volt it. I had this same card for quite awhile and it played extremely well.
I have 64 LC and still running games awesome.
Still got an RX VEGA 48 in my iMac from 2019... As long as you don't actually ask it to do anything, it's a champ... O_o
I still have one of these in an older machine, though I did have issues with stability. Eventually I found it was more stable with the pro drivers. As others have mentioned it's worth undervolting too.
What kind of issues? I don’t remember having many when I used one of these in my main machine.
Is this a better option than a GTX 1060 or RX 580? I found a deal with the same price range in my country.
Didnt this GPU get released in 2017? Im not sure if i wanna buy it because it costs only 100 Euros on Ebay which isnt much for a GPU, also im scared its too old to play new Games with 60 fps, are you sure its that good?
I had this card paired with a 4670k. The outerworlds is the game where i noticed a real struggle from the system and upgraded to a 10600k. Upgraded the gpu to a 3070 when cybepunk arrived. Pricing up a 7600 system now
1:15 wait ain't pigtailing power connector often a hazard?
my AirBoost is with Hynix memories. so no flashing to V64 bios?
I have a Vega 56 Pulse. Great card still, the only reason I upgraded was to play Cyberpunk better as it really doesn’t like Vega. My card is near silent under load(except on a hot summer day, but even then it’s no loud) it served me well from June of 2019 to august of 2021 when I got my 1080 ti. Before the Vega I was using a GTX 970.
I had an original vega 64 blower card. Man was it hot 🔥
Have the same on for over 6 years and I'm having random crashes and BSOD "Thread Stuck in Device Driver" for nearly 4 years now on every boot up. Haven't found a solution yet which is crazy
You should have tested 1440p. For some reason its usually a small difference vs 1080p on these vega cards. I wonder if its due to the bandwidth of the HBM2
for me, the saphire pulse version of this card has the coolest designed backplate :D
Just picked this model up for £50!! Works flawlessly! - it did run hot and out given its 6 years old I took it apart repasted it with Artic Mx6 and undervolted to 1600 P7 and 1v sits around 1525mhz. Tops out at 40% fan 2400rpm and 76 degrees. Well chuffed
RandomGaminginHD : I used to own a Sapphire Nitro RX Vega 64 8GB HBM2 (2x8-pin version) which I sold to my friend....back then it was on paar with my KFA2 GTX 1080 EXOC 8GB....but today, it's quite a different story....in practically every game that I play, my newly acquired Asus Strix RX Vega 64 8GB HBM2 (again a 2 x 8-pin version) beats my KFA2 GTX 1080 EXOC 8GB by around 15 % - 20 %....both tested on the same Ryzen 7 5800X3D rig coupled with dual channel 64 GB of 3600 MH/T DDR4. Vega cards are very very good today and definitely worth the money.
i missed blower style gpu like asus turbo series,is there any vendor that use blower style gpu right now instead of normal one?
I love these, never had one though, always too expensive for me. There are better choices however. Interestingly the 64 goes for the same price (where I live at least). The RX 5700 (non-XT) is within 10-15 Euro as well and is more power efficient, more performant and should have less driver issues.
A tiny suggestion - It would be lovely to see a quick performance comparison on screen to other relevant/comparable products. Just for a few seconds at the end of the video with the final thoughts segment. Would be really informative to see at a glance how this compared to the 1070, or the 5600 XT for example
I have always fancied a Vega, HBM2 memory and 2048 bus bandwith which is 10 times bigger than my RX580 but where did it go wrong with all those impressive figures :S
It was expensive to make. Now we get them cheaper than an RX 580.
Wanted One of these Cards when I wasn't even close to having a pc
I still have one lying around, put a morpheus II on it, flashed the vega 64 bios and with an undervolt and slight overclock, it makes for a wonderfully cool card that easily trades blows with any 1080! The blower cooler was awful.
Yeah I think I’ll get an aftermarket cooler for this before tweaking it