Rasheed Wallace Is BLOWN AWAY By Wembanyama's Game
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- Опубликовано: 12 апр 2024
- Rasheed Wallace Is BLOWN AWAY By Victor Wembanyama's Game as Sheed, Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew discuss Wemby's incredible rookie season debate where the San Antonio Spurs Rookie ranks in the current NBA and how far he could rise in the future
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What’s crazy, if Wemby stays healthy, this will be his worst season 😮
How do you figure that? Lol
@@mellol1628 Nearly all players play more minutes and put up better numbers in the seasons after their rookie season.
I get what you trying to say ( dumb way of saying it ) but I don’t think Wemby going to stay healthy
Can’t say that, gotta see what happens when the best players have a scouting report on him from all the film they have on him now.
@@mattfowler3760 bruh its 2024 allat scouting report 💩 over with. If you that deal you that deal 💯
He's probably the first player to actually live up to the best prospect since LeBron label 😂 they've given that to a lot of guys, but wemby has been phenomenal
Zion was well on his way. Year 2 Zion was incredible. But then the injuries and weight problems took hold. And he has quietly had a pretty great season this year with 70 games played. We will see if Wemby keeps it up.
Zion??
Zion had more hype imo especially playin in the US and goin to Duke.
@@HomerunsamSOSAzion with more hype? lol nah
@@Blaine_GoIn the US Zion clearly had more hype than Wemby, not even close
Wembanyama is at a place right now in the NBA where he is getting comfortable, he's building team chemistry, and overall is feeling welcome in San Antonio
We should be expecting Wemby to be in MVP and DPOTY, 1st Team All Offense and Defense selections next year
The team has to win to get them 1st team offense
The MVP is a high expectation, that doesn't only depend on Wemby taking more huge strides forward individually next season, but also his team taking even bigger strides. I'd say expecting him to win the MVP is a too high of an expectation for his second season, but it's possible.
HELL NO…IF HIS TEAM AINT WINNING THEN HE CANT BE IN THE MVP RANKING
He gotta win more then 20 games maybe 48-50 fasho but Allstars and all defensive teams next year fasho
@@penkima4923 they aren't even close to the play in and are much worse than the rockets mavs and pels who are all in their division. all star and first team all defense are realistic expectations next year.
Victor Wemanyama became the first player in NBA HISTORY with 1,500+ PTS, 250+ BLK, & 100+ 3PM in a single season.
A once in a generation player, had a once in a generation season in his first year! 👏
Watch out league, Wemby is coming! ‼️
Sheed and Gil threw dirt on stat-men like you, and you still decided to write that comment.
@@penkima4923because someone says something doesn’t mean it’s true. No matter how you put it he did that. I’m not saying greatest rookie ever but the kid will be great if healthy. This was a hell of a rookie campaign.
@@thavalidj114pretty sure that comment was made in jest…
@@Andre_Holmes Just pointing out they were talking about random statlines like that.
Wambawamba get the name right
These dudes contradicted themselves.
First, they said that they hate it when analytic dudes make special conditions to make the stats more impressive, but then, they started doing the same when they were talking about impressive rookie seasons.
LOL
Gilbert is just that stupid I’m sorry
He thus became the fourth player in history to finish a season with at least 1,500 points, 250 assists and 250 blocks after Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Hakeem Olajuwon and David Robinson. On the other hand, he is the first player in NBA history to reach such standards during his rookie season.
If Wemby was on a winning Top 6 team with this current stat line the conversation would be ROTY, DPOY and MVP
#1 draft picks to a winning team 🤦🏼♂️
The premise is on him being a rookie in general not the #1 pick buddy. Chet #2 pick to a winning OKC team…
I love when sheed is there, it really boost the basketball conversation with everybody. His analogy with Malone being U19 having a crazy season to comparing Pistons defense to the timberwolves made me search these things up and its facts 💯
Kenyon and Sheed are haters. Wembanyama is such a great player and they don’t like that Euros are way better than American players now.
euros got 8 ppl chill 😂
@@stephn0tcurry
Maybe not much but:
Jokic MVP candidate
Doncic MVP candidate
Wemby ROY
Wemby / Gobert DPOY
Then you about non US:
SGA Canadian
Embiid now French / US citizen.
Imagine a Team with Embiid - Gobert and Wemby plus guys like Tatum and Fournier etc.
@@fan2hd277 your first 2 choices cant guard a parked car . cant be by goat if u can only play one side of the ball 🤧
@@stephn0tcurrythat narrative Jokic don’t play defense is lazy and uneducated if u actually watch him play you’ll see he’s not a weak defender he’s got quick hands and great anticipation he’ll never be dpoy but he is an average to slightly above average defender
If you watch the show regularly you would know Kenyon is a big fan of Wemby. He was just mad Gil dismissed AI because of his age
Funny they said the same thing about Luka years ago! We gotta put some respect on the players coming here and DOMINATING
Like Ben Simmons 😂
@@flxgld7096he’s American
@@ziplockbaggies8707Australian
@@ziplockbaggies8707No tf he ain’t. Simmons is Australian.
What’s crazy is wemby averaged more points his rookie year then anybody on the podcast
Just to be fair I live in San Antonio and I know for a fact through the local media that Victor Wembanyama has had Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker when he is in town all showing up to "The Rock" to help mentor him. So you know he is good hands with the Spurs.
I’ve been trying to tell people this… And I’m not in SA…
I think they mean mentoring on the court and on the bench.. Difference from practice to the actual game. We talking practice? (Iverson voice)
@@creativeclectic Yeah I get that, Lucky for Wemby he has one of the best mentors in the league in coach POP in the mean time.
Pop kind of screwed up or you can say was figuring out wemby for the first half of the year. It hurt his growth but once he was put at center wemby has exploded.
@@derek5698 No he didn't POP doesn't screw up when it comes to player development that's why he is the GOAT. He let Wemby get acclimated to the league by not forcing him into a box. Wemby's growth would have been hurt anywhere other then San Antonio. And that's the genius of POP is he tries different things and doesn't just settle.
I can't believe those two old guys were so envious and jealous of wemby
Not jealous. Sheed got a ring as the best two way player on his team too. An that team had Tayshaun Prince and Rip Hamilton. Kmart also said he would give the dpoy to wemby
Shaq:
23.4 pts 13.9 reb 1.9 assists 3.5 blks
Wemby:
21.4 pts 10.6 reb 3.9 assists 3.6 blks
Difference between Shaq and Wemby as rookies:
Shaq averaged 37 min a game as a rookie
Wemby averaged 29 min a game as a rookie (he was on a min restriction most of the season)👀😮💨
Different league. Wemby will be top 15 all time if he stays healthy
Also different eras.
Shaq also came in the league at 20 years old, a full year older than Wemby.
Blocks are harder to come by now. Shaq's rookie year his 3.5 blocks was a 3 way tie for 2nd place. Robinson averaged near 4 bpg in his rookie year and finished third. Wemby is a full third above 2nd place in BPG. That's never been done in any stat category I could find in NBA history and he's on restricted minutes!
Is that not Defensive Player of the Year?!
@@jorisoims3085wemby also played pro ball in Europe and is way taller.
Let me Just Luck in leading the league in Blocks.
Let me just luck in Leading the league in Stocks.
Let me just luck in a 5x5
Let me just luck in A triple double with blocks
Let me just luck to have more 6+block games in my rookie year then Gobert has his entire career.
How can you possibly say What Wemby is doing is just Rookie Luck?
This shit that Wembanyama is doing is so unreal it's like a Movie.... Its gonna be a Fast and Furious Series.... Not going to end. This is just The 1st original Fast and Furious
Aye stonks up📈
We seen it already though
@@OthoWilliamsJr😂 when? Who? 7ft4? Nah
@@OthoWilliamsJr let me guess you take after Shaq and say "BOLBOL, he is just lazy" am I right? Well let me block that notion out the water..
Wembanyama not only Has historical numbers right now, He literally has the Will to win... The last time I've seen players with the will to win (any game any night hate losing) Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant (let me not even mention Tim Duncan - Whole different discussion ).
Wemby also has the IQ of A Steve Nash/Jason Kidd playmaking.
Wemby has the IQ of GIANNIS , Mutombo, Kareem, (when on the perimeter) Kawhi on defense.
Wemby literally has never been seen before. Any comparison falls short in what he is doing in His ROOKIE YEAR!
@VictorWembanyamaSpurs
Ninja you DIDN'T mention LeBron, so I know you a d rider.
He putting up numbers on a horrible team. Let's see as Rasheed Wallace said.
Plus Kevin Garnett, Kevin Durant, etc....been doing this shxt. Seem as the Narratives is hurting your brains
Played one season comparing him to Greats is mad wild🤣
So far he’s lived up to the hype and maybe even surpassed it to a degree, because he’s so good on defense already damn near best in the league. You can already see him getting better and more comfortable on offense each game, PLUS he’s looking like a decent facilitator.
He's turning the ball over too much, but even taking that into account, he's looking like a far better than decent facilitator.
@@penkima4923 yea that was the only reason I said decent but even then he’s still got a good vision of the court.
He surpassed it cuz he was healthy we knew he could ball. It was will his body hold up.
@@jonny4ya lebron is arguably the goat and averages twice as many turovers per game than assist king john stockton.
As a 44 yr old these dudes is stupid. He gonna menace the league on a level no one’s ever seen starting next yr. If you don’t clearly see that it’s hate and jealousy.
He had a good rookie year on a losing team, let’s see him do this in the playoffs.
@@Jon7_11like he said you’re stupid
@@Jon7_11 all time* rookie year
@@ugom5702 great rookie year, still doesn’t mean shit. Ben Simmons won rookie of the year and he’s a bum. Wemby hasn’t done anything yet
@@Jon7_11 stat dont lie he is really living an all time rookie year compare to all the rookies from modern nba
Kenyon Martin looked like a legit pissed off old head when he was asking Gil if he holds age against a rookie. 😂
Kenyon stayed all 4 years in college so he takes it personally when Gilbert bashes older rookies.
@EGarrett01 it's funny cause Kenyon has said he didn't feel like a rookie and was already growm
Wamba Wamba DPOY
People need to get on this Wamba Wamba
😂😂😂
Wetbabymamas my GOAT
@@igiveup12 wetbabymamas is crazyyyyyyyyyy
@@igiveup12golden 😂
VICTOR WEMBANYAMA#1 .. HE'S BETTER THAN ADVERTISED .. HE'S THE FUTURE FACE OF THE NBA 🏀 .. AND .. ANALYTICS HAS DEFINITELY RUINED THE LEAGUE .. AND ALL OF SPORTS ..
This may be true. However, how else will sports betting companies (which sponsor these sports shows) make money without people placing bets on player stats? Sports leagues got in bed with betting companies and now they can’t back out of it.
@@djcdroid1
True
No stats no bets
He is the replacement. Talent, character and the whole package. Pause. We'll see about his leadership.
Analytics are a great insight to how good a player is really playing. Some advanced stats that show some more in depth things
@@Travixtyyeah also a way for ppl who don’t watch ball to say good or bad things about a player instead of watchin them actually play.
The only player who can overcome MJ in the “goat” conversation.
God protect Wemby.
Viewership has statistically not been the same ever since the lockout 2011-12 season... Which is even crazier knowing social media took off during those times. Also, games were broadcasted more on ABC/NBC/TNT. (2015-16 season is the one exception which barely peaked over the past years)
Yea Gilbert once again show his stupidity on his own show, loudly. It’s fun to watch a stupid person speak tho ngl
Wemby is the defensive player of the year and noone else is close.
People keep forgetting that that man is on minutes restriction and still putting up those numbers
The bar is on the floor for commentary these days
What he just did to Denver is even more impressive!!!
17pts in 3min.
Last time I remember something close was Tracy Mcgrady against my Spurs 13pts in 35 seconds
Dead ass , this was recorded the same day of that game . Made them eat their words after doing that against the nuggets , and didn’t even know it
And then comparing them to Shaq and somehow still undermining Wemby
@@VictorWembanyamaSpursmcgrady wasn't a rookie though...he was a full blown vet ....
@@VictorWembanyamaSpursmcgrady don't count
num 2 in defensive efficiency and leading rudy by a 100 block= dpoy, roy
Best comment yet!!!
Spurs had a league worst defense with Wemby on the bench and something like top 5 with it. His impact is IMMENSE on the defensive end.
I'll stand by what i've said all along. If Wemby is not ROTY and DPOTY. It's a scam. I don't give a shit about his team and how bad they are doing. This guy is a rookie on limited minutes putting up insane numbers. This is once in a lifetime shit we are seeing right now. Dude is a freak of nature and living up to it. He 100% deserves those awards.
He's a full third above 2nd place in bpg! I don't think that's ever been done in any stat category before.
Who was the last person to get it bein last in any conference 😂 he in 2nd behind a player on a top 3 team
@@LijahBeenDatyeah you right about that but it is an individual award not a team award and if you base it off the player not the team it ain’t even close that it’s wemby
@@joeystacks7552 ik im just sayin how the league got it . ii definitely thx wemby deserve it tho
Luke was 19 getting 21/8/6 and at 20 got 29/9.5/9
Better than LeBron at 19 and at 20
Most ppg for a 19 year old and a 20 year old
Better than mj at 19 and 20 😈
Only difference is luka came into a nba where teams are shooting 30+ 3s a game….where Bron came into a nba with defense
@@moneymoney3235 lol, as a Jordan fan I find this so funny, LeBaby fans won’t let Jordan use this argument at all even though LeBron has played in an era of uncontested shots and no defense being allowed vs Mike playing in the toughest defensive era easily!!!
@@Joegoog2321 so Bron in 2003 was going against no defense??? That’s what we running with now?? Mj as a rookie was going against worse athletes and drug addicts 😂 also 6 expansion teams and still did worse than lbj and luka. Facts
@@Joegoog2321 Bron in year 21 average 25.7 points, 8 assist and 6 rebounds on 54% and career high 41% from 3…..in a tough west. What was mj doing at 39 again???
The turnover numbers don't really bother me. All young players struggle with turning the ball over. If that continues into his 3rd and 4th year, then we can hold that against him. I also think the turnovers will go down when he plays with better players.
Remember, Wemby has to produce on both sides of the court. Nobody is asking Rudy to lead the offense
Wemby did prove himself lol I agree with the weird breakdown of records though.
I hope Wemby watched this. This would be incredibly motivating to see the vets talk about me in such a positive light.
Went to multiple home games here in San Antonio!! We love the alien in the Alamo City!!
Wemby will be the MVP within the next 3 years and that’s a FACT!
Not unless the Spurs improve massively. He's not winning the MVP until the Spurs become a playoff team.
They are getting Trea Young in the offseason they will be better
Wemby will be challenging D rose for the youngest mvp in the next couple of years remember I said it first
There’re people that have been saying that since he started, and before lol. But your probably right though in all seriousness
I saw an amazing play where Jokic used the drop step on him on the left block, and went to lay it in on the right side, and Wemby managed to block him. Crazy athletic.
Well, that's a compliment Rasheed is one of the best two-way players in the 2000s (Spurs' Duncan era)
Dude going to bring the spurs back
Never listen to casuals about ball, I remember everyone saying Wemby is a bust or nothing special now they're on his nuts
I hope you aren't referring to anyone on that couch as a "Casual"
@Tj-dx7xw wasn't talking about the ppl on the couch..don't remember any of them calling him a bust
Nah, I think they said we have to see. And with all the guys that did well in France and flopped here, it was wise. He’s better than advertised
@@JCMthebrandno he is exactly what was advertised. Only doubt was his health because he’s tall. If you doubted his talent and game, you were blind
@@CrimfitI think he’s better than advertised, I acknowledge he was already gonna be great but I ain’t know THIS great.
i just really love this show...♥
Bunch of old ass haters smh
Exactly
Guys just hattin on the Euros
San Antonio will teach them again what it means. Texas will (Nowitzki, Doncic). Quite interesting that Texas is the most open state to Euros 😅
Rasheed had me CTFU @14min mark imitating players altering their shots due to WambaWamba's presence 😂🤣😂🤣
Wemby was the first seven foot four French center ever to have an off the backboard alley oop to himself against the Milwaukee Bucks.
Yo this Squad!! Let Go!!
Definitely top 10, they must be waiting for his second season to officially give that to him 🥱🥱🥱
I get the comparisons between the great rookies but at 7’4?!?! Who at 7’4 and his age can you compare his numbers to?
Analytics is the new shit so what is good its true stats, I'm old school but this gives us more in depth information about a individual players productivity and diferenciating player positions further expands on this concept, it helps with sssoooo much that this would be a long letter , I can't believe I have to explain it to the cast .
Agree! What bugged me is they listened to the 33/18/6/7 line then went straight to saying advanced stats are bs. I was like, the normal stats are insane on theyre own
Sheed is such a good addition to the show. Need to have him on more often.
I died @ "How old was Hekeem his rookie year?" " 36." 💀💀💀
Why he got a mic
Dude, hella awkward holding that mic no diddy 😂
😆😆😆
Put respect on his name
Sheed. He is Rookie. He really hasn't been long enough 😂😂😂😂
That's his point.
You missed it.
When people can’t understand numbers they get mad when u bring them up😂
His stats on a minute restriction is crazy 🤯
I'm just happy people are saying someone is the future of the NBA while seeing them play in the NBA.
They do pull the wildest stats though. Like “he’s the only player to score at least 20 points and have 6 assists on National Hotdog Day” 😂
Keep This Group Together
Shaq and Melo had decent players around and good veterans to help. Wemby has none
Viewership is down because alot of teams not being played on local television in Chicago you can't watch the bulls unless you pay to watch baseball too used to be WGN
the wnba players especially former players should take note this is how you grow the game.
Funny how they hate wemby … talking about wemby is so simple !!! Tremendous pressure and he responded !!! Being that tall and skilled !! Committed to blocking shots !!! That’s it
I was thinking about this same thing after reading a head line. I think the headline was on wemby too?
So proud to be a spurs fan. Even with a bad record.
Stay healthy wemby ❤
Luka rookie year was amazing he was doin what he’s doing now just less volume
Dude is a walking double-double already. He is averaging 21 points and 11 rebounds a game.
Blocking shots in this NBA is the hardest defensive play. Steals are actually easier than before because their is so much passing.
Pick and roll is the hardest thing to defend
They really think buddy bout to turn out to be Michael Carter-Williams. 🤣🤣
on godd like the nigga out here rolling off the backs of the defenders, calling it "luck" possibly, how much more do u have to see 🤣
Rasheed said luck, this man is a hater 😂
He's not a hater. You missed the point. It doesn't sound convincing hyping him using a combination of 7 random stats.
He knows Wemby is gonna have a great career, but we’ve seen sooo many players have a crazy first, and maybe second year, and then fizzle. It’s usually from injuries, but it’s happened.
I judge everyone by their third season, but the kid is impressive thus far.
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Luka Doncic balled out from start.
But he played as a pro in Europe.
Wemby played as a pro in Europe.
@@penkima4923 Sure but playing the french league isn't playing in a top team in Euroleague. Without him, MET92 were weak. Before that he didn't play a lot in ASVEL when he was 17. Playing 35 minutes in a good college team is better than 10 mpg in french league. He had only one real season.
Rasheed, you making me choke, with your Wamba Wamba.
Wemby is top 5 he's putting up stats in comparison to other great rookies in 5-10 less minutes on a team that refuses to pass to him
I like how they start with how they don’t like the age analytics, then gill goes into 19 year old rookies😂
Second best rookie season since mj. Dont Forget Victor played less than 30minutes a game !
I said it last year during the draft process, he will go down as the best player ever when it’s all said and done
I want to say hello to every one late to the party
They start by saying new stats add new filters to make new guys stand out. 26 8 and 8 on 60%TS etc... but Gil just filtered out all rookies older than 19. What are we doing.
0:45 sneed right, advanced metrics was used to prop up Jokic
Kenyon Martin snatched Dwayne Wade’s game winning shot out of the air one time. He’s a legit shot blocker.
#1 & #2 in that draft class have lived up to their promise/potential this season.
They come up with the same weirdo stats for lebron. But yall get mad when they do it for new players
This is like how "best in it's class by JD Power" when it's the only car in that class, since there are custom classes basically. But Gil doing the same thing with the age argument, separating into classes.
Wemby as DPOY is possible. I saw him stretch his long arms backwards and stole the ball then ran down and made a play. Wild
I look the other way when Gilbert talk crazy on account that he was fire for the Wizzards. 😂
The irony in Gil's exposure of 80 & 90's haters on the new school of NBA hoopers, he's doing the same damn thing to the Euros. 🤡
Tell me you don’t know how stats and records work without telling me. Lol. 🤦🏻♂️
Shaq rookie season was amazing! Wemby had 342 stocks vs Shaq 346 stocks (steals and blocks) Shaq had more blocks Wemby 258 vs Shaq 286. Shaq average more a game. They both almost average same in blocks per game. Wemby 3.6 vs Shaq 3.5. Wemby more than doubles Shaq in assist. I think it’s close until you look at few things. Shaq shot atrocious from charity stripe 56%. Shaq never attempted a 3 pointer. Then look and see Shaq played almost 1,000 more mins than Wemby and 11 more games. Take all things into consideration. Wemby had the better season. Shaq had more turnovers and fouls. Played with Penny hardaway to help him get easy buckets. Wemby did not move to center until 20 th game of the year.
Wemby had les games
Also blocks are harder to come by now. Wemby's 3.6 bpg is the only guy over 2.4 bpg. A full third ahead of the competition! (Never been done) Shaq's 3.5 was a 3 way tie for 2nd place with Alonzo and Mutombo. Robinson was just behind them, and Hakeem was well ahead of all of them.
Magic got drafted at 20 & Bird at 22, Gil’s crazy tryna discredit what Bird did as the 22 year old centre piece playing for the biggest franchise in the league at the time
They said he wasn’t gone be able to do it this year😂😂😂
Lmao Gil hates Jokic so much lmao
Who tf the guy with a microphone at the end of the coach lmao
Gil n dem boys be tired of Mccants 🤣🤣
Viewership isn't down, a ton of people are just streaming
I remember Blake Griffin had a good rookie year , definitely was hyped up at the time . I enjoyed those lob city clips teams .
Shout out to Gil's on wearing MESSI's No 10 Jersey. Let's gooo!! The true GOAT...
Imagine if they get CP3 to the spurs with a good wing shooter