Israel's state terror strategy: Max Blumenthal and Ilan Pappe
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- The Grayzone's Max Blumenthal joins Ilan Pappe, trailblazing Israeli revisionist historian and author of "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" to discuss how the Israeli military relies on state terror as part of its doctrine to suppress resistance to its occupation of Palestine.
This event was sponsored by the International Movement for a Just World, founded by Junaid Ahmad, who moderated the discussion.
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I could never have imagined such evil as we are seeing now.
If you had been keeping up with the war crimes of the colonial regimes you wouldn’t be so naive. Operation paper clip is what we are seeing rear its ugly head.
It's been going on for decades yet we in America were unaware. Makes me wonder what else has been kept from us 🤔
Sometimes I think, wow all this American dreaming has really blindsided people collectively. Even though they used to say, never forget. We forgot and so the wolves have fooled us again. This time it feels different. It feels like a transformation is taking place and we won't see the end for a while the way they are saying things will go-them who speculate war tactics. They say words like endless, and forever war...so when will the new normal begin? Like Max was saying a war with croissant and coffee in the morning. If they haven't already people are going to change now. The good'ol days are gone.
It did happen before. It was called Nazism.
Think of it this way: how was it possible for the Founding Fathers to sell two contradictory products to the nation? How was it possible for the same men who held slaves (denied liberty) to champion liberty at the same time?
Thank you Max for caring about the suffering of others (innocent Palestinian victims), and standing up for them. The world is waking up, to this, finally. We must stop the torturing of these poor people and restore their rights. You are helping to lead the way.
Ilan Pappé said that they brought pine trees from Europe to erase a palestinian village in 1949, but they all got sick and died. Olive trees came back and reclaimed the land.
The roses still live too.
The zionists wanted pines as souvenirs of the continent that tried to exterminate them. They should have just stayed in Europe.
@@JUBA616 you can't stop the Spring!
So moving
Mother Nature cannot be deceived.
I live around many pines. That is soooooo ludicrous to think that pine trees would survive in that climate! Palestine is built up on desert sand. Geesh.
I don't care if you are a Jew, Muslim, Christian or Atheist, Max, but you are such a beautiful person, inside out. And same for Ilan. A pleasure to listen to you both.
They are so genuinely kind and morally courageous. So much respect. I'm not sure how lost we would be during this genocide without people like these 2.
Agree completely! Thank you Max !!!
It grear to be kind and moral but when you deal with Muslim brotherhood like Hamas a cult, which brought only trouble, killing, murder to Egypt, Jordan, Suria, Iraq, libia etc, one must be realistic and change the scale.
I have tremendous respect for Ilan Pappé and Max, especially because they are both Jewish and speaking the truth. Respect 🫡 from South Africa. 🇿🇦
Agree, our dreamteam of pro-humans!
Thanks for having Ilan Pappe on, he is so eliquent. My tears flow when he speaks.
Eloquent.
@carolynzaremba5469 that's rather missing the point
ELOQUENT. LEARN THE ORTHOGRAPHY BEFORE USING A LONG WORD.
Max Blumenthal and Ilan Pappe. Two decent men circumventing an indecent world.
They give us hope. and help us stop crying.
Hope-inducing by stating facts for all to hear; putting the injustice on spot for us all to recognize; a reminder that solidarity and empathy can change the direction of past errors.
Well said
Well said.
Two men I've come to love. Every time I hear their voices, I'm so relieved I'm not crazy
You aren't crazy at all, but most western people are
You are not alone..
I’m Palestinian. Thank you for shedding the light on the inhumane realities that we are living. I would welcome the opportunity to be interviewed or share in such mind-opening wholesome podcasts. 🇵🇸
It's baffling how genocide tends to be perceived as genocide.
CBN News is struggling to understand it.
Less we miss the point these gentlemen are making : the global financial backing behind the genocide
Actually, while it's happening, it's usually not perceived as genocide by the majority. Only AFTER time passes, and people realize how hotrible it was that they recognize it was, in fact, a genocide.
I don't recall a genocide being stopped midway or before starting when the intentions of genocide were clearly made.
I would also dare to say this is a character of Western civilization.
@muhammaDEsmustafa We've come to far to use that excuse. Also, no other G was well documented like this one.
@@muhammaDEsmustafa Sure. Admitting to a crime in the past has no consequences for people who think like that.
The only channel where you can click like before you listen.
Ilan is such a gem. So glad you had him on, his interviews are timeless
Max for the Pulitzer! I can honestly say Max is amongst the best of us. ❤️
Yep. 👍
Why would Max want to accept an award the mainstream propagandists give to themselves?
Agree!
It’s sad to acknowledge that the so-called Pulitzer price is not more what it used to be. Tim Golden, a two times winner was caught by the Mexican President lying and smearing him in the NYT.
Max is indeed a great human! ❤️
I wish there would be more Ilan papé, Max Blumenthal, Aaron Maté , Rania, Abby, katie Halper, Judge Napolitano ,us and many others who are willing to live in peace on this earth …..
Amazing how stark people with humanity look compared to the ghouls
Free America. From Israel
From the whole world
Free Free the 🌐 from 🇮🇱
Love you Max Blumenthal and Ilana Pape. You are both beautiful humans. Love you both.
Ilan puts everything into perspective on Palestine few others can really a treasure.
Thank you MAX for being voice to VOICEless Palestinian in very hard situation THANKS MAX
Thank you Max you open my eyes and my heart
I wrote my comment without hearing Dr. Pappe's piece. Holy shit, this is an amazing analysis by both. Free PALESTINE!
Grazie Max and cohorts.. my Grayzone Patreon for years has been a saving grace. Helps me sleep at night 👻
💯😴❤
Agree
2 Based LEGENDS!
Can’t wait to watch, grateful for both of your beautiful souls and all the amazing, courageous, brave work you do!
Thank you 🙏🇵🇸❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thanks, guys, for interviewing Prof. Pappe.
This channel deserves millions of followers. Keep on the fight!
Thank you Max and Ilan. We must not be silent while witnessing injustice.
Hero's of our time, blah blah copy paste BS.
@@joelg34
Thank you, Joel! 😂
@@joelg34 is your bagel soggy with your own tears?
Thank you for the excellent history class, Ilan Pappe! You are a treasure.
Valuable insightful conversation, thank you.
👌Professor Ilan Pappe. So much respect 🙏
Thank you all for bringing this very informative program on what is taking place. It is so appreciated! Blessings to you all !
SERIOUS SPEACKER, WELL DONE LADS
Outstanding historical summary and analysis, Max!
The last two times Illan came to Ireland to speak I got to meet him briefly and he graciously signed his books for me. Always informative. Ethnic Cleansing was such an eye opener for everyone coming to this issue over the last decade and more.
God bless the Grayzone
God Bless You Live Long Max Your are a Truth Journelist World's needs more journelist like you 🙏 🙏❤️🙏🙏🙏
In a study published in August 2017 by Marc Haber et al. in The American Journal of Human Genetics, the authors concluded that: "The overlap between the Bronze Age and present-day Levantines suggests a degree of genetic continuity in the region."[18]A 2021 study by the New York Genome Center found that the predominant component of the DNA of modern Palestinians matches that of Bronze Age Palestinians (Canaanites) from around 2500-1700 BCE.[17]. The Palestinian people are the original israelites and judeans.
Nope
On point
@@talksmoke1190hey hasbara troll boy.
All people are protected by Universal Declaration of Rights. No matter where you are from. Only nations can screw that up. As Israel has done. And by their actions. They are a nation that should be treated as the lawless nation they are.
@@talksmoke1190guess who Benzion Mileikowski is? Dad born in Poland. Benzion was educated and spent a lot of time in the USA. He graduated from MIT. This person is Polish. His name now is Benjamin Netanyahu.
Ilan Pappe, thank you. Brilliant. Max, you too.
Max is an absolute gem. A brilliant human being.
Honest humans thank you, thank you❤️❤️❤️👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻❤️❤️❤️
The invading zionists, according to Israeli author Shlomo Sand in his book "The invention of the Jewish people are jewish converts alien to palestine. In the 8th century ad the Khazar kingdom in ukraine converted to judaism and would go on to make the ashkenazi jewish population in europe. Yemenis converted to judaism during the yemeni kindom o Himyar in the 5th century ad during the rule of Dul Nawas. There were jewish kingdoms in iraq and north africa as well. The palestinians are the eternal natives of the land. Free Palestine.
Nope
@@talksmoke1190I think you might be in denial
@@aaronmercer8318 no, not at all
He is and struggling with it too@@aaronmercer8318
@@talksmoke1190talksmoke..see you later 😂
GenocideJoe lost this 59 yo and my 84 yo mother. 😢
Great podcast, placing in true historical context, needed now more than ever. Kudos, guys.
Brilliant Pe0ple "!! Thank you !! 🇵🇸🧡
Very Educational Max and Ilan. Thank you!!
Appreciate you both for your deep knowledge, integrity, courage and dogged persistence.
Truth telling, honesty and courage,,,,that's what the greyzone is all about. Thank you, great Max, and many thanks to the wonderful Ilaan❤❤
This was so good and necessary for me to listen to. The genocide has been so devastating and horrific to watch on a daily basis. Listening to Max and Ilan was a breath of fresh air as they describe the present and historical perspectives and make sense of the madness. Thank you all.
Max you are one of the best journalist in USA history.
thank you for your great work. People like you are the sophie scholls that will be taught about in the future.
I’m so happy each time I find you. You’re my cup of oxygen.
Thank you Professor Pappe. The audio book is on youtube for free with a few parts.
I am learning more about the plight of the Palestinians❤
That LEGO pier is crap, but what I don’t understand is WTF doesn’t America DEMAND that the trucks get into Gaza?!
usa does not mind the genocide a bit
That Lego pier cost 300 million dollars if I remember correctly
Exactly !!* such a waste../'0f m0ney )!!
It's an emigration terminal, if you know what I mean...
@@TomT-bo1yr yes ! I know.. exactly what you mean..*!
Thank you enormously for your work 😊 Information is power! 🇵🇸❤️🇱🇧❤️🇸🇾❤️
Just finished reading the book by Prof. PAPPE is excellent....i will purchase more books from Prof. PAPPE....
Freedom for Palestine now Stop genocide now Long live Aaron Bushnell ❤
Thank u both gentlmen
I appreciate Max B so much for his informative and educational videos 🙏🏽✌🏽
Great discussion as always
Max and professor pappe are the heroes of the century 🙏🏿💜
Max and Ilan thank you for your education and sharing this immense knowledge with the people to better understand the past, present and future of what is to come on this subject. Your grasp of this subject is second to none. You truly are an institution and great scholars of our time.
This is so horrific
Great episode 👏🏼
Even tony blinkin is a dual citizen..how can he be neutral? Diplomat? I suspect not.
Phenomenal analysis of the antisemitic roots of zionism by the Christian west by Illan!
Wow Ilan good to see u both.. i love this episode ❤
good discussion, a lot of information
Thank you very much!
Thank You Very Much 💐🦋🍃
Very Well Spoken...... Acute , Honest Articulation......No Sound Bites , Just The Truth
Thanks! Max and Ilan Pappe are awesome!
Max Blumenthal and Ilan Pappe < May God bless you keep save
Professor is here!
Incredible. Mind blowing. 😮
Excellent.
Illan Pape and Max a heartfelt Thank you and God Bless you and yours .❤
Professor, Max, gives a true and realistic, acceptable analysis with excellent historical references. Their love for humanity, especially the oppressed Palestinians, their sympathy and coming to help them is also equivalent to doing a historic amount. May the creator and master of all of us succeed them.
GOD BLESS YOU 🙌 Truth must be told 🙏 ✝️✡ Please get the word out ❗
Am I ever glad I listened to this! Thanks Max, Professor Pappe, for bringing me up to speed on the actual political situation.
There are fissures within the US ruling class and their grocery clerks and errand boys. Let's hope they get worse.
Can't tell you how much I respect you and your work!😊🎉❤😂
Max telling it like it is. And he does that being a Jewish man. That bravery cannot be understated.God bless that outstanding young man.
Thank you Max and Ilan, Great lecture for those of us who are beginning to understand the Palestinian cause. Greetings from Bolivia
Great stuff - will propagate (here in Australia)as far n wide as possible (as per usual on this critical Historical matter). VINCEREMOS !!!
Thank you Max
Hvala za hrabrost, istinu i nekorumpiranost
Dear Max, When it comes to the one book I wish you would read, it's the 9/11 tell all by Christopher Bollyn, "Solving 911, The Deception That Changed The World." As a person who aced physics in high school, it has endlessly frustrated me how few serious investigative reporters have pursued the ugly details behind 9/11. He's the only one who ever really did. I wish you would read his book. I think you will be shocked by how much his work is so closely related to yours.
I just came across your channel and subscribed we need more people like you Max! Thank you for bring IIlan pappe
As always, thankyou for being a very good and decent human. I forgot fearless
With the power of the west,a pastoral people were denied their natural and normal existence and it’s unbelievable that they are still there. It shows their resilience, and solidarity, and it’s not because the Arab or the Muslim world or because anyone in the world was particularly helpful. Just because of the particular DNA the Palestinians have in their attachment to the land, their traditions, to their religion and to the area. But with our help their efforts in the past will be more helpful in the future. Illan Pappe. Thank you sir ✊
Very grateful for these insights ❤
Amazing history lesson! Wow! I had no idea about a lot of this .
❤️🙏🏽you BRAVE men of integrity, humanity and decency🙋🏽♀️🇺🇸💔😓WE see your soul❤️
Informative episode, thanks!
Great talk!
❤❤❤❤❤
2 legends.
Thank you
Also 100 year year War on Palestine by Khalidi.
Schedenfreude is quite an apt word to describe Israel society…
It makes the most sense in the movie: The Omen-otherwise, it’s a terrible idea, and with even more murders! ❤️🇵🇸❤️
Great segment
Thanks!
You and Norman Finklestein should get together and compare notes.
Peace and gealing for all those on innocent on both sides. PEACE FOR HUMANITY. ALL COUNTRIES N FAITHS N RACES.. WE MUST REALIZE WE ARE A HUMAN FAMILY. WE ARE ONE FAMILY.. LETS REALIZE IT.. LOVE.. LOVE.. LOVE
Thank you! This is exactly in line with my comment on your previous upload in regard to the Eurasian imperial and colonial powers hatred of non-Christians, like Jews and Muslims and their vassal states like the US. New to me as an European, was our Indo-European dimension of Brahamist supermacy. We tend to find comfort in our groups based on race, religion, class and gender to find meaning. Ignorance is strength. War is peace. Freedom is slavery.