You're guilty of buying the BS about WWII. Germany was NOT the problem. It was the USSR, Great Britain & the USSA. Even General Patton said as much. Do some research/reading, written by REAL historians!
This is my 5th RUclips channel bcz they keep striking then removing them...10000s of vids and 1000s of subscribers lost for being pro Palestine 😢 can't explain how frustrating to have voice canceled so many times
Yes. Some may find it interesting that the AIPAC Non-profit Tax Returns say (under penalty of perjury) that they do NOT engage in Lobbying or U.S. Political Campaigns.
Thank you from a German. It's so good to listen to this profound analysis. It would be ineresting in which way the lobby works here in Germany. Because the intimidation of people who speak out is so strong. Even jews are arrested if they something that doesn't apply to the narrative of Israel. Thank you for your work, ei.❤❤❤❤❤❤
I recommend ‘The Pro-Israel Lobby in Europe: The Politics of Religion and Christian Zionism in the European Union’, written by Elvira King. Check out the work of ECI and you will get a better picture of the European lobbying process.
Think it was the same during WW11, especially with men about to leave for the front. And a surge in the birth rate post war, especially of male infants!
This presentation is one of the best in a long time! The presenters focus en sensitivity is admirable and the the talk by Prof. Ilan Pappe was so brilliant and eloquent! I love his deep analysis which helps us understand such unique and tragic moment in history. I also agree and find comforting to hear that there is a big hope for the big change that The People of the World are asking for. Thank you all. Inocenta Sanchez Ewart
Feel deeply grateful for finding out about Ilan Pappé's work in recent months. Thank you to Mr. Pappé and EI for having him and everything else You do.
Thank you again, Ali, Nora, and lian Pappe, for this discourse in these perilous days. Wisdom is truth with intelligence as we raise our voices with integrity and dignity. One must ask oneself why we still murdering each other and what creates these divisions after centuries? It begings inside by asking the right questions of who are "we," and reading valuable books of importance. I am looking forward to having Iian Pappe's new book. Fortunately, through my bookstore, I will have it on Aug. 16, 2024 here in America. Love, peace, and truth for Palestine 🇵🇸 and our world. 🙏♥️🌎🌏🌍🌿🕊🎵🎶🎵✨️💫✨️💫
@@mauraorourke9849but I'm starting to have an insane reaction to what's happening....Gaza has near finished what's left of any tolerance I may have had... From Ireland 🇮🇪 We are now being swamped by right wing nationalists anti immigration mobs... Stay strong.
@@tracysauvage1351 Thank you Tracy. Yes we have that element here now. The half of them yobs & the other half criminals just out spewing hate. Able to appear anytime of day so no jobs. Just happy to put their hands in the taxpayers pocket while they damage property etc adding more cost to the state. They are an embarrassment & I think they should not be given so much publicity. 🥰
Always so enlightening thank you all three of you. Ali i will keep your observation of Prof Pappe’s comments front of mind. The future is not yet written. We will all have our part in it🙏🏼. Lets keep pushing hard to bend that arc toward justice.
Thank you for invite ILlan, a person that I respect and admire So much❤I going to share this interview with many of my friends, some Arabs, some Jews that are going like many people in the world, so sad with what the people are going through 😢😢😢😢😢. I tell allways that I can see changes in the world (I'm going to be 80 in December) and I never see millions of people young and old marching all the time for so long. I express to my family and friends my hope and kind of looking at me like with a I'm a dremer 😊 Thank you ILlan for what you say at the end, it warm my heart ❤❤❤❤
Ilan Pape has given me a peace I haven't had since the knowledge of the 7th of October 2023. I found myself screaming out loud on my own to the Australian government when yet another child was executed by an Israeli sniper with a bullet to the head, and heart sometimes. All the probably hundreds of thousands of Palestinians killed over the last 11 months and no one from my government nor the USA, Britain, Germany, France, Canada raised their voices to condemn the Israeli government. Thank you. Blessings and Peace⭐
Sometimes it feels that those who stand for truth and humanity is dwarfed by the sheer scale of the hatred,greed and callousness of the other,but even though the odds against us seem overwhelming at times,i stand proud with you guys,names that have become,in my eyes and heart,synonymous with what the best of us can be,Max,Gideon,there are too many too mention,my thoughts,my prayers are with you,the Palestinian people and all the oppressed in the world
What I learned is that AIPAC has "branches" around the World, even in Australia where I live. The more you look at their local connections with political parties, previous PMs and ministers, the more you find. Disgusting.
Incredible interview , change comes through events not processes and being brutally realistic while externally hopeful Is a call to action to shape our future
“Ten Myths About Israel” book by the Israeli historian Ilan Pappe The “ten myths”-repeated endlessly in the media, enforced by the military, and accepted without question by the world’s governments-reinforce the regional status quo and include: • Palestine was an empty land at the time of the Balfour Declaration. • The Jews were a people without a land. • There is no difference between Zionism and Judaism. • Zionism is not a colonial project of occupation. • The Palestinians left their Homeland voluntarily in 1948. • The June 1967 War was a war of ‘No Choice’. • Israel is the only Democracy in the Middle East. • The Oslo Mythologies • The Gaza Mythologies • The Two-State Solution
The lobby will make sure that any Congress man or woman that puts America first over the Zionist will lose any election to a person the lobby supports with their money to push the Zionist agenda.
At 14” when he starts discussing Israeli reaction to the rape torture of the Palestinian hostage, it made me think of the parallels in the US to BLM and the lack of sympathy from some Americans to police terror in the Black community as well as the liberal inability to see this as a systematic problem that is a continuance of years white supremacist policing and, ultimately, white supremacy.
Please do write/speak more on the situation in France where there seems to be total govt sandbagging with regard to criticism of Israel’s war on Gaza, including on the top talk shows!
It’s the capitalist mindset: everywhere is a place you must establish an outpost and have a market, and everything is a resource to extract. The corollary is police who think everything in their field of view is a valid target for immediate destruction
@@truthadvocacy When people use the term "America", it's understood they don't include Canada and Mexico. "North America" is generally used to connote a reference to the "continent". To be exact, or, at least, more exacting.
The only person to serve time was SFPD detective Thomas Gerard, who served two months in a work camp. Gerard, a former CIA agent, had fled to the Philippines after an FBI interrogation. In a briefcase he left behind in his police locker were 10 fake ID's, four in his name for American embassies in South America. Also I'm the briefcase were official government stationary, extensive info about death squads, a black hood, pictures of blindfolded men in chains and blank birth certificates & passports. During an interview from the Philippines Gerard threatened to expose the CIA for assisting South American death squads.
Sde Teiman detention camp is a “concentration camp” that the entirety of Israeli society and the international community are “complicit” in- Diana Buttu, a Palestinian human rights lawyer.
Anyone standing with Israel today will be remembered the same way we remember Nazis in history. They are one in the same today.
You're guilty of buying the BS about WWII. Germany was NOT the problem. It was the USSR, Great Britain & the USSA. Even General Patton said as much. Do some research/reading, written by REAL historians!
Both are based on many of the same ideas.
Not necessarily. The Austrians supported Hitler who was Austrian and they became part of the Third Reich. Yet, they are never blamed for Nazism.
This is my 5th RUclips channel bcz they keep striking then removing them...10000s of vids and 1000s of subscribers lost for being pro Palestine 😢 can't explain how frustrating to have voice canceled so many times
Yes. Some may find it interesting that the AIPAC Non-profit Tax Returns say (under penalty of perjury) that they do NOT engage in Lobbying or U.S. Political Campaigns.
Every interview with Ilan Pappe is gold.
👍
An absolutely extraordinary interview. Ilan Pappè is really an essential reference point in the struggle for the liberation of Palestine.
Love Pappe, bravest historian in the world!
Please stay safe Ilan!! Your voice is invaluable! ❤
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ABOUT THIS HOROR IN GAZA !!!
FROM FRANCE
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And from Croatia!
Pozdrav tebi! @@LucijaPodic-fx9it
Ilan Pappe is always a great guess. Thank you.❤❤❤
It must be exhausting carrying all that knowledge around….The man is a veritable fountain of information. ✊🏼🇵🇸🌍
Thanks everyone on this channel.
Professor Pappe listening to you give us hope to believe these dark days ends.
Dr Ilan Pappe is always on the right side of history and the right side of the Truth.
God bless and protect Pr. Pappé: our light in darkness.
Love this man’s courage!
Ilam Pappe is a legend 🙌🏽
Ilan Pappé is a treasure and an honour to listen to.
Thank you from a German. It's so good to listen to this profound analysis. It would be ineresting in which way the lobby works here in Germany. Because the intimidation of people who speak out is so strong. Even jews are arrested if they something that doesn't apply to the narrative of Israel.
Thank you for your work, ei.❤❤❤❤❤❤
👍
I recommend ‘The Pro-Israel Lobby in Europe: The Politics of Religion and Christian Zionism in the European Union’, written by Elvira King.
Check out the work of ECI and you will get a better picture of the European lobbying process.
@@eclectiumthanks!
I could listen to Prof Pappe for hours. Like Nora said, it really is good to hear from him. I’m so thankful to have him on our side.
Many wedding happened in Gaza, During this conflict, They believe in better future. Very inspiring.
👍
Think it was the same during WW11, especially with men about to leave for the front.
And a surge in the birth rate post war, especially of male infants!
Thank you for interviewing Prof Pappe’
This presentation is one of the best in a long time! The presenters focus en sensitivity is admirable and the the talk by Prof. Ilan Pappe was so brilliant and eloquent! I love his deep analysis which helps us understand such unique and tragic moment in history. I also agree and find comforting to hear that there is a big hope for the big change that The People of the World are asking for. Thank you all.
Inocenta Sanchez Ewart
An honour to listen to Ilan Pappe. I too MUST listen again and again to remain hopeful.
Thank You Prof Pappè for sharing your research and knowledge. Thank you for coming on Electronic Intifada ❤
Feel deeply grateful for finding out about Ilan Pappé's work in recent months. Thank you to Mr. Pappé and EI for having him and everything else You do.
Thank you, Ilan Pappe for standing up for truth and justice so we don’t lose our humanity ❤
I am currently reading Ilan's latest book. I am learning a lot about the history of Zionism's campaign.
The Palestinian cause aside, LGBT much?😂
History of Zionism is a Christian project, end of story!
Thank you again, Ali, Nora, and lian Pappe, for this discourse in these perilous days.
Wisdom is truth with intelligence as we raise our voices with integrity and dignity. One must ask oneself why we still murdering each other and what creates these divisions after centuries? It begings inside by asking the right questions of who are "we," and reading valuable books of importance.
I am looking forward to having Iian Pappe's new book. Fortunately, through my bookstore, I will have it on Aug. 16, 2024 here in America.
Love, peace, and truth for Palestine 🇵🇸 and our world.
🙏♥️🌎🌏🌍🌿🕊🎵🎶🎵✨️💫✨️💫
Ali said something very important, that we gain new insights every time Ilan Pappé speaks.
👍
Thank you Ilon! Thank you EI! ❤
Thank you Electronic Intifada
Great to hear professor Pappe,very inspiring,and instructive and hopefull for justice in Paledtine.
Free Palestine
Thank you again for this excellent interview today
The Good Part: Ilan, Ali, and Nora = enlightened, inspiring conversation 😃
The Bad Part: USA = United Slaves of AIPAC 😞
Compare the intelligence & gentle tone of this conversation to the vile ranting & inane response in Congress.
@@mauraorourke9849but I'm starting to have an insane reaction to what's happening....Gaza has near finished what's left of any tolerance I may have had...
From Ireland 🇮🇪
We are now being swamped by right wing nationalists anti immigration mobs...
Stay strong.
@@tracysauvage1351 Thank you Tracy. Yes we have that element here now. The half of them yobs & the other half criminals just out spewing hate. Able to appear anytime of day so no jobs. Just happy to put their hands in the taxpayers pocket while they damage property etc adding more cost to the state. They are an embarrassment & I think they should not be given so much publicity.
🥰
@@mauraorourke9849 To their credit, half of Congress democrats boycotted Netanyau's speech.
"USA = United Slaves of AIPAC"😂👍
A great reflection of our human indecency!
👍 Political porn!
Always so enlightening thank you all three of you. Ali i will keep your observation of Prof Pappe’s comments front of mind. The future is not yet written. We will all have our part in it🙏🏼. Lets keep pushing hard to bend that arc toward justice.
Merci infiniment pour cette entrevue avec un grand humaniste 🙏
Keep on the good work you guys! We rely on your journalism - based on truth, facts and pure honesty!
Thank you for this great podcast. I watched it for a 2nd time today.
Me too
“In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.” ~Nietzche
And he died of dementia/syphilis as an individual.😁
Thanks to all of you for the hard work you do and the courage and truth. ❤
Thanks for great interview with Mr pappe
We will not surrender to hate, but remain hopeful❤
Yes hope in the face of despair is all we have to cling to.
From Ireland 🇮🇪
For Gaza, For Palestine, For the world.
Quelle sagesse! Quelle science!
Merci pour Ilan Pappé.
"Part of it"
Thank you for invite ILlan, a person that I respect and admire So much❤I going to share this
interview with many of my friends, some Arabs, some Jews that are going like many people in the world, so sad with what the people are going through 😢😢😢😢😢. I tell allways that I can see changes in the world (I'm going to be 80 in December) and I never see millions of people young and old marching all the time for so long.
I express to my family and friends my hope and kind of looking at me like with a I'm a dremer 😊 Thank you ILlan for what you say at the end, it warm my heart ❤❤❤❤
As always, loved listening to and learning from Elan Pappe. Thank you EI ❤
Agree 💯
Brilliant,unbiased,accurate,sincere vastly interesting Thankyou immensely.
Thank you 🙏🏽 ei and great gust 🙏🏽👏🏼🍉🕊️🇵🇸
Lobbying for Zionism on Both Sides of the Atlantic” Book by the Israeli historian Ilan Pappe
Thank you for these updates listening from Arizona today
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Thanks and salute 🫡 you prof. Pappé for giving hope for futures generation and humanity.✌️👏🙏🤲💐💐💐
Ilan Pape has given me a peace I haven't had since the knowledge of the 7th of October 2023. I found myself screaming out loud on my own to the Australian government when yet another child was executed by an Israeli sniper with a bullet to the head, and heart sometimes. All the probably hundreds of thousands of Palestinians killed over the last 11 months and no one from my government nor the USA, Britain, Germany, France, Canada raised their voices to condemn the Israeli government. Thank you. Blessings and Peace⭐
Thank God for the Electronic Intifada and walahai for Prof Pappe , rhe Intellectual Giant !
Amazing interview, thank you!!
3rd time listening 🙂 Prof Pappé's talks are so meaningful for deeper understanding + so inspiring for staying active in the fight ✊
Words of Wisdom!
Amazing interview with the incredibly humaine Dr Ilan Pappé. Much love from South Africa 🇿🇦❤️
Sometimes it feels that those who stand for truth and humanity is dwarfed by the sheer scale of the hatred,greed and callousness of the other,but even though the odds against us seem overwhelming at times,i stand proud with you guys,names that have become,in my eyes and heart,synonymous with what the best of us can be,Max,Gideon,there are too many too mention,my thoughts,my prayers are with you,the Palestinian people and all the oppressed in the world
What I learned is that AIPAC has "branches" around the World, even in Australia where I live. The more you look at their local connections with political parties, previous PMs and ministers, the more you find. Disgusting.
Incredible interview , change comes through events not processes and being brutally realistic while externally hopeful
Is a call to action to shape our future
Wonderful interview with a Great Man ! !
Thank you for this interview. Great respect and admiration for Professor Pappé
Greetings from Cartagena de Indias, Colombia
Thank you for you Journalistic work.
Thanks ei, you guys are doing a wonderful job, salutations from Freetown Sierra Leone west Africa
Excellent presentation.
Thanks for the enlightening discussion
Writer, journalist & activist, Ben White wrote “Israeli Apartheid A Beginner's Guide”
Very informative and ray of hope
Awesome interview.
amazing interview, totally fascinating
Tremendously eye-opening and spirit - lifting approach to the historical record and prospects for it to inform a transformative present and future
solving the issues related of Olive trees will surely accelerate the process of peace.
Brilliant explanation..
Be hopeful!🙏
Great interview- learned a lot, thank you
Interesting and informative interview. Good interviewing as usual.
I can listen to illan pappa for ever❤
Ty EI, Ty Mr Pappe 👌
“Ten Myths About Israel” book by the Israeli historian Ilan Pappe
The “ten myths”-repeated endlessly in the media, enforced by the military, and accepted without question by the world’s governments-reinforce the regional status quo and include:
• Palestine was an empty land at the time of the Balfour Declaration.
• The Jews were a people without a land.
• There is no difference between Zionism and Judaism.
• Zionism is not a colonial project of occupation.
• The Palestinians left their Homeland voluntarily in 1948.
• The June 1967 War was a war of ‘No Choice’.
• Israel is the only Democracy in the Middle East.
• The Oslo Mythologies
• The Gaza Mythologies
• The Two-State Solution
Thank you.
👍
I agree, lots here. Multiple listens required.
Great interview
Great video
thank you
Hello Nora Ali and Ilan❤
the Israeli historian Ilan Pappe wrote well documented book : The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine.
These are sick people and no one to stop this criminal state.
"Most Zionists don't believe that God exists, but they do believe that he promised them Palestine." Ilan Pappé
😂
Instead of arming Israel, Ukraine and Taiwan; US tax payer money should be spent on infrastructure, healthcare, education, homelessness.....
The lobby will make sure that any Congress man or woman that puts America first over the Zionist will lose any election to a person the lobby supports with their money to push the Zionist agenda.
At 14” when he starts discussing Israeli reaction to the rape torture of the Palestinian hostage, it made me think of the parallels in the US to BLM and the lack of sympathy from some Americans to police terror in the Black community as well as the liberal inability to see this as a systematic problem that is a continuance of years white supremacist policing and, ultimately, white supremacy.
Thank you Ilan and EI. God willing Palestine’s liberation. Is coming. Ilan is right.. Gaza the victorious will liberate Palestine.
Absolutely unbelievable
Sick. They should all just leave.
Or accept a non-Zionist and secular state.
Where is a Mizrahi Jew from Iraq supposed to go now?
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Aipac used to be azc. Look into it. It has always been in front of your faces.
Please do write/speak more on the situation in France where there seems to be total govt sandbagging with regard to criticism of Israel’s war on Gaza, including on the top talk shows!
What an interview, May Allah guide him and all of u to islam.
The way the Brits and Americans assume a proprietary right over all the land and resources of the world never ceases to mind-boggle.
It’s the capitalist mindset: everywhere is a place you must establish an outpost and have a market, and everything is a resource to extract.
The corollary is police who think everything in their field of view is a valid target for immediate destruction
The US and Britain, to be exact.
America is a continent, not a nation.
@@truthadvocacy When people use the term "America", it's understood they don't include Canada and Mexico. "North America" is generally used to connote a reference to the "continent". To be exact, or, at least, more exacting.
nice video
Excellent video, great hearing from him
Excellent interview guys, so information, Professor Pappé is always such a fantastic clear voiced educator. Ps. Stay strong Asa !
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The only person to serve time was SFPD detective Thomas Gerard, who served two months in a work camp. Gerard, a former CIA agent, had fled to the Philippines after an FBI interrogation. In a briefcase he left behind in his police locker were 10 fake ID's, four in his name for American embassies in South America. Also I'm the briefcase were official government stationary, extensive info about death squads, a black hood, pictures of blindfolded men in chains and blank birth certificates & passports. During an interview from the Philippines Gerard threatened to expose the CIA for assisting South American death squads.
Sde Teiman detention camp is a “concentration camp” that the entirety of Israeli society and the international community are “complicit” in- Diana Buttu, a Palestinian human rights lawyer.