Operation Downfall V2 (Every Day)

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  • Опубликовано: 10 мар 2024
  • This scenario depicts what may have happened if nuclear bombs were never invented and the United States invading Japan during World War 2.
    Operation Downfall was the military codename for the two stage invasion of the Japanese home islands. It was drafted after the Battle of Okinawa and it's primary goal was to force the unconditional surrender of Japan by embarking Allied troops on the Japanese home islands. The plan was divided into two stages, Operation Olympic and Operation Coronet.
    Operation Olympic was set on November 1 and was to involve the entire US and British pacific fleets as well as all available units to invade and capture 1/3 of Southern Kyushu. This would set the staging ground for the invasion of the Kanto Plain.
    Operation Coronet was set on March 1, 1946 and was to be the follow up to Operation Olympic. The main Allied objective was to invade the Kanto Plain from the presumably captured Kyushu. From there they would move inland and seize Tokyo, hopefully forcing Japan to surrender. Further information afterwards is not clear.
    Sources:
    en.wikipedia.org
    history.army.m...
    • Sino Japanese War and ... - For Soviet Invasion of Manchuria and China
    • World War II in the Ph... - For Japanese holdouts in the Philippines
    • World War II - Pacific... - For Southeast Asia and occupied Japanese islands in the Pacific
    Mistakes:
    -Resolution is 3840x1920 instead of 3840x2160
    -The color key numbers should've been displayed on Japan
    -A day is missing
    -Sunwu, Manchuria was captured too early
    -Some cities are not named
    -Some city names are in the wrong spot
    I incorporated the KMT, CCP, and other Chinese Warlords/cliques into the same country for simplicity.
    Music:
    • Japan Overture - Japan Overture
    • Hearts of Iron IV Soun... - Sound Effects
    This was made in GIMP and Movavi Video Editor Plus
    This is meant to be a remake of my original Downfall video from 2019.
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Комментарии • 67

  • @ianschmutzler8177
    @ianschmutzler8177 5 месяцев назад +36

    A number of things. To begin with, you have improved wildly in the four years since you last did this. The close ups give a better view, the timeline is more reasonable, and you are the first mapper I've seen to stick to the actual battle plan for Kyushu. Well done!
    Also, I liked how the Allies didn't take what they didn't have to. Southeast Asia was largely ignored, the Shikoku campaign was basically abandoned, and the Soviets didn't bleed themselves to death taking mountaintops they didn't need.
    Last and least, Jesus, the Japanese occupied Shanghai until 1947? Considering the Japanese Three Alls policy and how vindictive their soldiers must have been feeling by that point, that must have been Hell on Earth

  • @kaynight64
    @kaynight64 5 месяцев назад +33

    This reminds me of an anime movie I watched, where a Soviet-controlled Hokkaido squaring off against a US-occupied Japan late into the Cold War provides the background for the plot.

    • @SunnyBlam
      @SunnyBlam 5 месяцев назад +7

      What's it called?

    • @kaynight64
      @kaynight64 5 месяцев назад +10

      @@SunnyBlam The Place Promised in Our Early Days - it's a very interesting and touching romance with sci-fi elements including the use of technology to enter dreams.

    • @zayedbinimran957
      @zayedbinimran957 4 месяца назад

      ngl hokkaido alone stands 0 chance

  • @The_Guit
    @The_Guit 5 месяцев назад +23

    WHEN THE WORLD NEEDED HIM MOST, HE RETURNED

  • @James-cq2bj
    @James-cq2bj 5 месяцев назад +8

    Nice work man, very high quality content you have made!

  • @bocci103
    @bocci103 2 месяца назад +3

    “I was 12 years old, and that day was clear... Suddenly I saw a bolt of lightning, or what looked like tens of thousands of lightning bolts flashing in one moment, then a huge explosion rang out, and suddenly the place was completely dark. When I woke up, I found my hair withered, and my clothes were torn. My skin is falling off my body, my flesh is exposed and my bones are exposed. Everyone was suffering from severe burns, and they were crying, screaming and walking on their faces like a line of ghosts. Our city has been covered in complete darkness, after it had only recently been teeming with life. The fields have been burned and there is no longer anything to remind us of life.”
    hiroshima explosion survivor

  • @extratheopp
    @extratheopp 5 месяцев назад +2

    Every time you wait for soulchester to upload, it pays off

  • @quangvinho2078
    @quangvinho2078 10 дней назад +1

    An unified Vietnam post-occupation. A sweet dream not just for the Viet Minh, but for all Vietnameses at that time.

  • @Nycta_Gaming
    @Nycta_Gaming 20 дней назад

    This is criminally underrated

  • @turincouldbe
    @turincouldbe 4 месяца назад +2

    What about the August Revolution in Vietnam? Even with Operation Downfall, it might happen

  • @MandarynkiPolskie
    @MandarynkiPolskie 5 месяцев назад +1

    This is very great, amazing quality, though i have some complaints, mainly that the boxes for the zoomed regions are too large, and i think the offensives would be a bit quicker. I don't see soviets not capturing the Kurils by 1946

    • @justacat2
      @justacat2 5 месяцев назад

      wdym

    • @ianschmutzler8177
      @ianschmutzler8177 4 месяца назад +1

      I think that might have been like how we ignored certain islands in the Pacific an only took the ones we needed to advance. With much fiercer resistance on continental Asia and Hokkaido, a couple of islands probably fell further back on their priority list.

  • @vistagreat9994
    @vistagreat9994 4 месяца назад +3

    This is significantly better than the last one.
    However, i think that the war doesn't exactly drag on as long as it should.
    I still don't think the Soviets would have easily punched through Manchuria and Korea like that, especially considering the mountainous territory they would have been forced to trudged through, much unlike the plains of Ukraine, or for that matter, the plains of Northern Manchuria.
    Shanghai being occupied by 1947 is...very questionable, i don't think by that point Japan would have been focusing on still fighting the KMT by that point.
    Plus, what about the communist rebels in China?

    • @vistagreat9994
      @vistagreat9994 4 месяца назад

      Considering how complicated the rest of the map is, i don't really understand the excuse for it.

  • @velozio
    @velozio 5 месяцев назад +1

    Nice, you’re back!

  • @freebrazilian2006
    @freebrazilian2006 3 месяца назад

    i prefer the old one, but you improved a lot, keep it up!

  • @salsaproductions5859
    @salsaproductions5859 5 месяцев назад +15

    worse ending for korea

  • @thedarkechoes1236
    @thedarkechoes1236 4 месяца назад

    I liked the old version more never giving up seems more realistic

    • @dieletztekavallerie395
      @dieletztekavallerie395 4 месяца назад

      The old one was ridiculous. The Japanese would have no food, no ammo, even no water. They could resist until ‘47 or '48 at most, because -unlike Vietnam or Afghanistan-Americans would use total military power against them. There would be a genocide in the end.

  • @lubuskimapper4414
    @lubuskimapper4414 2 месяца назад +1

    So basicaly what if nukes werent dropped + if japanese govcerment went insane

  • @dieletztekavallerie395
    @dieletztekavallerie395 5 месяцев назад +29

    0:10 The atomic bombs were not effective at all to make the Japanese surrender. When the Soviets rushed into Manchuria, the Japanese realised that they were done.

    • @eddysw8549
      @eddysw8549 5 месяцев назад +1

      That’s soviet propaganda. The Americans dropped two bombs and threatened a third. That’s when the Japanese surrendered. The Americans were able of destroying their entire country, not the Soviets.

    • @ConorBredin-ui3cd
      @ConorBredin-ui3cd 5 месяцев назад +25

      both caused the japanese to surrender

    • @dieletztekavallerie395
      @dieletztekavallerie395 5 месяцев назад +9

      @@ConorBredin-ui3cd Nope, the bombs did nothing. The bombardment of Tokyo was far worse, but the Japanese were still resisting. In 9th August, Soviets rushed into Manchuria and the Japanese resisted against them until they gave up six days later.

    • @ianschmutzler8177
      @ianschmutzler8177 4 месяца назад +16

      Yes, a couple tanks rolling over the Amur were as influential as two cities ceasing to exist over a single week. Even if that were true, the absence of the nukes would probably mean the Japanese still wouldn't surrender. Even with the Soviets and nukes, in real life the Japanese high command had to be forced by Hirohito to surrender. Hell, an actual coup was attempted to prevent this surrender. Without nukes, the invasion would have occurred, and millions more would have died.

    • @dieletztekavallerie395
      @dieletztekavallerie395 4 месяца назад +6

      @@ianschmutzler8177 “A couple of tanks” (1.6M soldiers, 3.7K aircraft, 5.5K tanks) disconnected the Korean peninsula and the main manpower (armies in the Chinese soil) of the Japanese. The bombardment of Tokyo was worse, but the Japanese military had a hope based on Soviet neutrality and the security of Manchuria.

  • @xeno9889
    @xeno9889 5 месяцев назад

    LETS GOOO NEW SOULCHESTER VID

  • @xshwei
    @xshwei 5 месяцев назад

    Didn't expect that

  • @red-gp9ohh
    @red-gp9ohh Месяц назад

    I doubt that Soviets would take all of Korea as they had an agreement with the US to split Korea. The Soviets would stop once they reached the 38th parallel.

  • @user-dn3pi9zs3e
    @user-dn3pi9zs3e Месяц назад

    Do decipher darkness? Map

  • @LibertyAnd1776
    @LibertyAnd1776 5 месяцев назад +5

    Why does it look like the Soviets gave land to the KMT?

    • @dieletztekavallerie395
      @dieletztekavallerie395 5 месяцев назад +10

      Kuomintang and the CCP were shown in same color.

    • @justacat2
      @justacat2 5 месяцев назад +5

      kmt and ccp = same color

    • @LibertyAnd1776
      @LibertyAnd1776 4 месяца назад

      @@dieletztekavallerie395But even if that were true, there wasn’t a border in Manchuria separating the KMT government from the CCP government.

  • @akuganteng790
    @akuganteng790 5 месяцев назад +2

    where is your ww2 eastern front animation??

  • @AllLevi13
    @AllLevi13 Месяц назад

    How do you do these sims?

  • @brayanluissoundtracks1771
    @brayanluissoundtracks1771 4 месяца назад

    I understand that in August 1945 the Soviets agreed with the Americans to leave South Korea, according to me they would not have to take all of Korea.

    • @dieletztekavallerie395
      @dieletztekavallerie395 4 месяца назад +3

      They could divide Korea, because the Japanese have already surrendered. Had the war continued, Americans would have to focus on Japan instead. When the Japanese gave up, Americans wanted to take everything they could.

  • @user-pm5dy3ep1c
    @user-pm5dy3ep1c 4 месяца назад

    BANZAI!!

  • @Spraatcely
    @Spraatcely 3 месяца назад

    What font is that?

  • @AndriySumin25
    @AndriySumin25 5 месяцев назад

    Where views?

  • @andrewmckenzie292
    @andrewmckenzie292 Месяц назад

    Still think it was the USSR entering the Pacific War and not the atomic bombs that actually made Japan finally realize this was all over.

  • @matthewbarabas3052
    @matthewbarabas3052 Месяц назад

    the soviets dont have enough landing ships to invade hokkaido. and the USA certaintly wont give them any. so, this video is factually wrong.

    • @TheBuckeyeHistoryGuy1776
      @TheBuckeyeHistoryGuy1776 Месяц назад

      What’s makes you think they couldn’t just capture IJN ships in Korean ports and use them for troop transports? Also what about civilian craft? Dunkirk ring any bells? Plus in addition, the Soviet pacific fleet had two cruisers, ten destroyers (and their escorts, and several other smaller craft. Now given Soviet history at this time of using things like the backs of T34s for example for troop transports…….. crowding their destroyers with men doesn’t seem too crazy. It’s not like your asking them to invade Alaska from Vladivostok. It’s literally just them crossing the strait of Tsushima and that’s it. Tsushima could be used as a fueling and resupply station too

    • @matthewbarabas3052
      @matthewbarabas3052 Месяц назад

      @@TheBuckeyeHistoryGuy1776 dunkirk was fine, they used civlian craft to *evacuate* troops. landing in a hostile beach is quite another level. also, the IJN will scuttle the ships if the soviets came even 100 kilometers from those troop transports. if they are even in korea.
      crusiers and destroyers, all six of them in total? no. even if they can operate with impunity (impossible with shore based batteries) they cant carry too many soliders, because they need to carry supplies and weapons, and they arent suitable to land any troops.
      they wouldnt be able to take even that piddly island, let alone anything else.

    • @TheBuckeyeHistoryGuy1776
      @TheBuckeyeHistoryGuy1776 Месяц назад

      @@matthewbarabas3052 never say never

  • @heyrakorzlar
    @heyrakorzlar Месяц назад

    That typewriting sound is getting annoying really fast

  • @zerefsunlimitedshipworks
    @zerefsunlimitedshipworks 5 месяцев назад

    Second comment

  • @emeraldbueno8018
    @emeraldbueno8018 5 месяцев назад

    First comment.

  • @ImperialZorn686
    @ImperialZorn686 5 месяцев назад

    Why did he draw the Mongolia borders completely wrong? Is he stupid??