One valve came with the regular. I'm using 3/4 pipe, which may be overkill. The generator manufacturer sells 10 to 15 feet of 3/8" gas pipe for their Tri-Fuel generator with the intention to use it on natural gas. Having done Natural gas plumbing in the past, I know the valves I am using have enough clearance to release the right amount of natural gas, but bigger valves could be used, if you wish to do so.
Question please! I have a tee fitting on my gas line after my meter. One part of the tee goes into my house and the bottom of the tee has a plug. I wanted to take out the plug and connect a nipple with another tee. This would allow me to connect my gas supply for my generator and put a plug in the bottom of the tee for the gas company access. Is that ok? It seems like it would be but wanted to make sure. Thank you!
If there is only 1 tee with plug, it probably belongs to the gas company. That means you can't use that tee or put another tee between that and the meter. So you have to add another tee after that. If you use the existing tee, and the gas company comes to work on your meter, they will have to leave your gas off, until you make an appointment with them. That means no hot water for a while until they come.
@@JohnHamed I don’t think I explained it very well. I wish I could send you a picture. But I would be putting in another tee with plug for gas company access.
@@JohnHamed What I meant to say is I will unscrew the plug from the bottom of the tee and add a nipple in place of plug. I will then add a tee to that nipple with a plug at the bottom of that new tee giving gas company access. Is that ok?
@@Atekcs I understand, and a lot of people do that, but it is not okay. Your new tee must be past that first tee going to the house. I'm sorry, once you replace that plug, even if you added another tee, game is over
If you have too many gas appliances running at the same time or if you have a small diameter pipe you are trying to pull a lot of gas through, yes that would be a problem. At my gas meter I took a Tee out of 1" pipe. I only need 3/4" pipe for the house and 1/2" for the generator (but I went above and beyond), so I have extra volume to distribute to the generator. You could do the same. Coming out of the outlet of gas meter, upsize you pipe, then split it into 2 smaller diameter pipes. However if you already experience low gas pressure, you may want to call the gas company to check if you need a bigger size gas meter.
@@JohnSadoughi great informative video! i am looking into the champion trifuel gen, i presently have the firman 5751 dual fuel, my question is, how do i know if my gas meter is large enough to accommodate the gen and my NG burner,i basically only want to run the heat in the winter in case of a blackout my meter is 250,000 btu and the generator is 135000 btu, i wont be running any other NG appliances during a blackout. but i dont want my to starve them of gas and have to relight the pilots.i think the meter is 5-7 WC,, the NG pipe from the meter into the house is 1in then reduced to 3/4,,going to the furnace and the druer,hot water heater.. i ran a 3/4 in pipe to the outside rear of the house directly opposite the meter,aprox 25 ft,, then reduced to 1/2 inch to accommodate the Champion, need some advice,,,,
@@johngraziano6652 the meter should be big enough for them all, unless you have a tankless water heater, in which case you need to call your Gas Company to upsize your meter. It may still work regardless. Just try it out and see what happens. However I'm not sure about 25 feet of 1/2 for the generator. You may have to change to 3/4 since it is a long run, depending on how much gas your generator uses at a given time. Again try it out to find out.
@@JohnHamed The hot water has a tank. And the 25ft was referring to the 1in to3/4 inch pipe inside the house from meter to back outside wall. I put a3/4,, inch valve with a1/2 inch reducer to run the ng hose to the generator. Will that be ok
@@johngraziano6652 yes, in my opinion it should. Also remember, if you have converted a Gasoline generator to a natural gas generator, it produces less energy.
May I ask why you didn’t use 2 full port gas valves?
One valve came with the regular. I'm using 3/4 pipe, which may be overkill. The generator manufacturer sells 10 to 15 feet of 3/8" gas pipe for their Tri-Fuel generator with the intention to use it on natural gas. Having done Natural gas plumbing in the past, I know the valves I am using have enough clearance to release the right amount of natural gas, but bigger valves could be used, if you wish to do so.
What is the kit you bought that you mounted to the side of your generator?
Question please! I have a tee fitting on my gas line after my meter. One part of the tee goes into my house and the bottom of the tee has a plug. I wanted to take out the plug and connect a nipple with another tee. This would allow me to connect my gas supply for my generator and put a plug in the bottom of the tee for the gas company access. Is that ok? It seems like it would be but wanted to make sure. Thank you!
If there is only 1 tee with plug, it probably belongs to the gas company. That means you can't use that tee or put another tee between that and the meter. So you have to add another tee after that. If you use the existing tee, and the gas company comes to work on your meter, they will have to leave your gas off, until you make an appointment with them. That means no hot water for a while until they come.
@@JohnHamed I don’t think I explained it very well. I wish I could send you a picture. But I would be putting in another tee with plug for gas company access.
@@JohnHamed What I meant to say is I will unscrew the plug from the bottom of the tee and add a nipple in place of plug. I will then add a tee to that nipple with a plug at the bottom of that new tee giving gas company access. Is that ok?
@@Atekcs I understand, and a lot of people do that, but it is not okay. Your new tee must be past that first tee going to the house. I'm sorry, once you replace that plug, even if you added another tee, game is over
@@JohnHamed ok gotcha. Thank you for your help and really great videos! Time for a new plan.
Question! If you connect to the natural gas going in to your home, will you reduce the volume to your furnace, stove and hot water heater?
If you have too many gas appliances running at the same time or if you have a small diameter pipe you are trying to pull a lot of gas through, yes that would be a problem. At my gas meter I took a Tee out of 1" pipe. I only need 3/4" pipe for the house and 1/2" for the generator (but I went above and beyond), so I have extra volume to distribute to the generator.
You could do the same. Coming out of the outlet of gas meter, upsize you pipe, then split it into 2 smaller diameter pipes. However if you already experience low gas pressure, you may want to call the gas company to check if you need a bigger size gas meter.
@@JohnSadoughi great informative video! i am looking into the champion trifuel gen, i presently have the firman 5751 dual fuel, my question is, how do i know if my gas meter is large enough to accommodate the gen and my NG burner,i basically only want to run the heat in the winter in case of a blackout my meter is 250,000 btu and the generator is 135000 btu, i wont be running any other NG appliances during a blackout. but i dont want my to starve them of gas and have to relight the pilots.i think the meter is 5-7 WC,,
the NG pipe from the meter into the house is 1in then reduced to 3/4,,going to the furnace and the druer,hot water heater.. i ran a 3/4 in pipe to the outside rear of the house directly opposite the meter,aprox 25 ft,, then reduced to 1/2 inch to accommodate the Champion, need some advice,,,,
@@johngraziano6652 the meter should be big enough for them all, unless you have a tankless water heater, in which case you need to call your Gas Company to upsize your meter. It may still work regardless. Just try it out and see what happens. However I'm not sure about 25 feet of 1/2 for the generator. You may have to change to 3/4 since it is a long run, depending on how much gas your generator uses at a given time. Again try it out to find out.
@@JohnHamed The hot water has a tank. And the 25ft was referring to the 1in to3/4 inch pipe inside the house from meter to back outside wall. I put a3/4,, inch valve with a1/2 inch reducer to run the ng hose to the generator. Will that be ok
@@johngraziano6652 yes, in my opinion it should. Also remember, if you have converted a Gasoline generator to a natural gas generator, it produces less energy.