Definitely! You can tell a huge difference when watching it in slow-mo. Or, like when I'm editing and I can watch them frame-by-frame. Man it's a HUGE difference. That should tell you how much internal gas volume difference there is between a Nomad-L/LT and a Sandman-S. And how well the baffle designs are made to scavenge gas and disrupt it's flow. For it's size, the Sandman-S is in the top 3 quietest and best-sounding cans, IMO. But internal volume of a 6.8" 1.5" O.D. can, vs. a 9" 1.75" O.D. can is huge. The Nomad-L/LT also has a lot more baffles than the Sandman-S, and they're shaped different, too.
Your vids are so helpful man! I was having a bit of buyer's remorse after getting the Sandman S(Realized after purchasing I am really wanting to prioritize Db reduction). The S looks like a versatile can though, all things considered. I will probably pick up a Nomad L as my next can for the Dbs. Whats your preferred gun to use the Sandman S with? I ask because I am thinking of building a specific rifle just for the sandman. Is it worth looking at 7.62 caliber?
Thanks man, that means a lot! The Sandman-S is not a supremely quiet suppressor, but it does an amazing job at what it was designed to do…Reduce volume (DB), reduce flash, and reduce blast. It was designed for extreme use, so it works really well on any high-volume firing schedule weapon, or any machine-gun that’s 7.62 (or smaller) bore diameter. It sounds really good on .300 BLK with subs, and it sounds pretty good on an AR10 in .308 Win (7.62x51). Because 5.56 is such a hard cartridge on suppressors, especially in shorter barrels (less than 16”), I find it works very well for SBR’s and AR pistols, because those are typically pretty loud anyway. If you are wanting maximum DB reduction and lightweight (for hunting or precision use), the Dead Air Nomad-LT, Otter Creek Labs Hydrogen-L, or TBAC Magnus HUB are currently the 3 quietest cans on the market. I have both the Nomad-LT and Hydrogen-L. They both sound amazing and are nearly identical in performance. I will be adding a Magnus HUB to my collection sometime this year.
Well... That depends. When ti comes to DB levels (in-person) the Nomad-LT is exponentially quieter without a doubt, and is hearing safe on a 5.56 with supersonic ammo. But the Sandman-S is such a very robust can, made of solid Stellite baffles and a 17-4 stainless steel tube, so it's just very thick and solid.and sturdy, made for the hardest abuse you can give it. So, it's got a very deep and chunky tone to it (you'll notice this difference more prevalently in my previous video with the subsonic .300 BLK). So, as far as quietness, the Nomad-LT wins hands-down, but if you could get the Sandman-S volume down to the Nomad-LT sound levels, the deeper tone of the Sandman would probably be a bit more pleasing to most. Personally, it doesn't bother me either way. I like the way they both sound, and they both sound great. But some people are weird about titanium cans, and them naturally having a slightly higher-pitched tone than stainless, satellite, and inconel cans. If you don't mind the extra weight, a regular stainless Nomad-L would be a good one. I will end pu with one of those, as well, eventually just because. And then Nomad-LT will end up being pretty much strictly a hunting and bolt-action suppressor for me, because of the light weight.
@@fireboyrasmussen1976 Thanks man! That means a lot! My channel has been so small for so long, I can't recall having gotten any comments before from anyone else who are regular watchers. 👍🏼 Feel free to share my videos and post them up on your social media and text them to your buddies and stuff to help get my views and sub count higher. The more I grow, maybe I can eventually get monetized and start buying some new/more stuff to make videos with. Right now, I'm self-sponsored, and my wallet hates it! 😂
Congrats. Those are both great cans. If you plan on using one of them on any hunting rifles, I would use the Nomad for it, and use the Sandman for the AR’s. Just my $0.02.
Muzzle flash. The 5.56 is a hard round to suppress while still maintaining low backpressure. The Sandman-S does a damn good job of both…But there is never a free lunch…And a slight bit of muzzle flash is that byproduct. Dead Air does make a flash hider end cap for the Sandman series, and from what I hear it works really well…I just haven’t gotten one yet. 👍🏼
@@cameronkerr7761 What’s your host? The Nomad-30 might be a better option to avoid flash, given it has almost twice the baffles and a much larger internal volume. It will be my next DA can added to my collection. If you’re using it as a dedicated 5.56 can, the. I highly recommend the new Otter Creek Labs Polonium. I have one on the way. 😏 It’s very similar to the Nomad-30, but dedicated for 5.56. It just beat everything on the PEW Science charts in DB rating. And the MSRP is only $550. ottercreeklabs.com/product/polonium/
Because I have a Nomad-LT that I bought about 3 months before my Sandman-S cans… So, I didn’t really feel a need for a Sandman-L. I’ll probably still get one someday, just to add to my collection. But the Sandman-S is a great can. It’s very quiet for its size, and it’s a great combination of DB reduction, and length & weight. If you compare an L and an S in person (on supersonic ammo), there’s honestly not that much of a difference to the ears.
The muzzle flash is noticeably different between the two; it’s like night and day.
Definitely! You can tell a huge difference when watching it in slow-mo. Or, like when I'm editing and I can watch them frame-by-frame. Man it's a HUGE difference. That should tell you how much internal gas volume difference there is between a Nomad-L/LT and a Sandman-S. And how well the baffle designs are made to scavenge gas and disrupt it's flow.
For it's size, the Sandman-S is in the top 3 quietest and best-sounding cans, IMO. But internal volume of a 6.8" 1.5" O.D. can, vs. a 9" 1.75" O.D. can is huge. The Nomad-L/LT also has a lot more baffles than the Sandman-S, and they're shaped different, too.
It’s kind of wild that the military would be ok with putting the S out into the field with that much muzzle flash
The muzzle flash on the Sandman S on an AR-15 is MUCH better with Dead Air’s 5.56 flash hider endcap installed.
I bought a Nomad 30 awhile back... Feds holding up my fun....
They always do…
Your vids are so helpful man! I was having a bit of buyer's remorse after getting the Sandman S(Realized after purchasing I am really wanting to prioritize Db reduction). The S looks like a versatile can though, all things considered. I will probably pick up a Nomad L as my next can for the Dbs. Whats your preferred gun to use the Sandman S with? I ask because I am thinking of building a specific rifle just for the sandman. Is it worth looking at 7.62 caliber?
Thanks man, that means a lot! The Sandman-S is not a supremely quiet suppressor, but it does an amazing job at what it was designed to do…Reduce volume (DB), reduce flash, and reduce blast.
It was designed for extreme use, so it works really well on any high-volume firing schedule weapon, or any machine-gun that’s 7.62 (or smaller) bore diameter. It sounds really good on .300 BLK with subs, and it sounds pretty good on an AR10 in .308 Win (7.62x51). Because 5.56 is such a hard cartridge on suppressors, especially in shorter barrels (less than 16”), I find it works very well for SBR’s and AR pistols, because those are typically pretty loud anyway.
If you are wanting maximum DB reduction and lightweight (for hunting or precision use), the Dead Air Nomad-LT, Otter Creek Labs Hydrogen-L, or TBAC Magnus HUB are currently the 3 quietest cans on the market. I have both the Nomad-LT and Hydrogen-L. They both sound amazing and are nearly identical in performance. I will be adding a Magnus HUB to my collection sometime this year.
Love the reviews!! Just found your channel new subscriber!
Thanks man! Much appreciated. 👍🏼
So which was better on your ears?
Well... That depends. When ti comes to DB levels (in-person) the Nomad-LT is exponentially quieter without a doubt, and is hearing safe on a 5.56 with supersonic ammo. But the Sandman-S is such a very robust can, made of solid Stellite baffles and a 17-4 stainless steel tube, so it's just very thick and solid.and sturdy, made for the hardest abuse you can give it. So, it's got a very deep and chunky tone to it (you'll notice this difference more prevalently in my previous video with the subsonic .300 BLK).
So, as far as quietness, the Nomad-LT wins hands-down, but if you could get the Sandman-S volume down to the Nomad-LT sound levels, the deeper tone of the Sandman would probably be a bit more pleasing to most.
Personally, it doesn't bother me either way. I like the way they both sound, and they both sound great. But some people are weird about titanium cans, and them naturally having a slightly higher-pitched tone than stainless, satellite, and inconel cans.
If you don't mind the extra weight, a regular stainless Nomad-L would be a good one. I will end pu with one of those, as well, eventually just because. And then Nomad-LT will end up being pretty much strictly a hunting and bolt-action suppressor for me, because of the light weight.
@@TroyPosey thanks for the lengthy reply! Keep these nomad LT videos coming! I check every week for new ones🤣
@@fireboyrasmussen1976 Thanks man! That means a lot! My channel has been so small for so long, I can't recall having gotten any comments before from anyone else who are regular watchers. 👍🏼
Feel free to share my videos and post them up on your social media and text them to your buddies and stuff to help get my views and sub count higher. The more I grow, maybe I can eventually get monetized and start buying some new/more stuff to make videos with. Right now, I'm self-sponsored, and my wallet hates it! 😂
Did you have the flash hider endcap for the Sandman S?
No, standard end cap.
I choose Wolfman
I just got my nomad 30 and my sandman s approved. Not sure which I'm going to run on my 5.56. I do have the 5.66 end cap for the sandman though.
Congrats. Those are both great cans. If you plan on using one of them on any hunting rifles, I would use the Nomad for it, and use the Sandman for the AR’s. Just my $0.02.
Is that muzzle flash or just the gases reflecting in the light from the sandman s
Muzzle flash. The 5.56 is a hard round to suppress while still maintaining low backpressure. The Sandman-S does a damn good job of both…But there is never a free lunch…And a slight bit of muzzle flash is that byproduct. Dead Air does make a flash hider end cap for the Sandman series, and from what I hear it works really well…I just haven’t gotten one yet. 👍🏼
@@TroyPosey I have the dead air flash hider just haven’t decided of sandman is what I’m gonna go with or if I want to look into griffin’s recce 5
@@cameronkerr7761 What’s your host? The Nomad-30 might be a better option to avoid flash, given it has almost twice the baffles and a much larger internal volume. It will be my next DA can added to my collection.
If you’re using it as a dedicated 5.56 can, the. I highly recommend the new Otter Creek Labs Polonium. I have one on the way. 😏 It’s very similar to the Nomad-30, but dedicated for 5.56. It just beat everything on the PEW Science charts in DB rating. And the MSRP is only $550.
ottercreeklabs.com/product/polonium/
What cover did you have on the LT?
That’s the Dead Air brand cover.
@@TroyPosey thanks. Rifles only makes it for them it’s called the MAD suppressor cover. Also 35-40$ cheaper on rifles only
@@chrisfisher3900 Awesome! Thanks for the info. 👍🏼
Why not sandman L? Just as indestructible as the S. Strictly weight?
Because I have a Nomad-LT that I bought about 3 months before my Sandman-S cans… So, I didn’t really feel a need for a Sandman-L. I’ll probably still get one someday, just to add to my collection. But the Sandman-S is a great can. It’s very quiet for its size, and it’s a great combination of DB reduction, and length & weight. If you compare an L and an S in person (on supersonic ammo), there’s honestly not that much of a difference to the ears.
The L is so damn long and heavy fuck that. I have one and regret buying it. Shoulda went S or nomad