.NATO is an instrument in US hands!Poland must buy everything USA want to sell in price fixed by USA.They don,t care about poor social situation in Poland they want to push Poland into ukrainian war in the case of Ukraine loose.They are ready to sacrifice Poland in the name of Wall Street and NATO interests
People in Poland remember German "values" and don't want these guys to mess up again. We choose our own way. There is nothing like European values. These guys want Europe perpetuals to be their colony. Look at Greece, Spain, Portugal. Are they happy with their European values?
What is interesting is that while Russian accusations of "Polish" imperialism, is projection of they own Imperialism. Accusations of German guy are protections of they own insecurities toward authoritarian rule. And while I despise current Polish government, whole conflict is rather issue of interpretation of the Law, then attempt to sizing the power. At least for now. Lot of drama is result of Polish internal conflict between Liberals and Conservatives. Rather then any sort of devious plot. For reminder. Poland was second modern democracy after US.
And first democracy in Europe at all, since 16th century! Germans tend to call Poland "young democracy", like they're an old one, they had brief democracy for 20 years in the period of 1920-1930, that's it. Their democracy is imported from USA since 1945. So much for it.
Poland is the most underrated country in the world. It is situated between two powers, separating Germany and Russia. To rule over the West or the East, one must pass through Poland, which is why there have been so many wars here, and this country has been destroyed from various directions over the centuries. The fact that Poland exists can be called a miracle. Both Germany and Russia will try to prevent Poland from developing too much so that they can keep it under their influence, hence Poland's orientation towards the USA.
The fact that Poland and Poles exist at all is a true miracle and God's providence. Probably no other Nation would have been able to survive, to preserve the continuity of the state, language, culture, traditions, etc. in the very heart of Europe (on the Central European plain, where there are no natural obstacles).... Between two powers; Germany and Russia. The 20th century was a huge disaster for Poland, we lost the largest number of people in percentage terms, the capital was practically completely demolished, communism was forcibly imposed on us, yet we were reborn and Poland is flourishing - both economically and culturally.
It’s not any miracle - it’s our resilience and I compromised morals that keep our people and country alive! But we do have shills amongst us just like the two present at this panel!
LOL Like USA doesn't have an Imperialist agenda too... You think USA will help Poland in ANYTHING?!?? Well... You can look at Ukraine and see.... And it's not like they are happy with China being a superpower also LOL Soooooooo like... USA is trying to stop China to become a superpower, but it will help Poland become one?! Good one dude! You are funny
Poland represents European values as much as Germany. Is this man so full of himself to dictate all Europeans what European values should be? Germany has no monopoly on them as far as I know. Polish values: Solidarity (All countries in the world are seen as equal partners and treated as well as they treat us); The rule of law and hospitality (Protecting war refugees, not illegal migrants. Enabling human trafficking and let uncontrolled migration in Europe without sufficient security checks is not accepted in Poland); Democracy (Accepting and honoring the outcome of democratic elections in Poland and other European countries and not undermining governments of any country just because we don't agree with their liberal/conservative way of ruling their country); Safety (Protecting Europe from extremism, terrorism, ruscism, nazizm and communism - small letters, no respect); Free speech (Poles can say whatever we want and we don't pay attention to so called political correctness. What you see is what you get). Poland supports Ukraine in almost unlimited way, the grain issue is the only one that we disagree with. Poland has enough grain for our domestic needs and we have every right to block Ukrainian grain coming to Polish market but we allowed them to send their grain further to Germany and any other country through our territory.
The transfer of Ukrainian grain through Poland is going smoothly and has increased month by month over the last year, so Ukraine, among other things, thanks to Polish help, has no problem with shipping grain to its recipients in, for example, Africa. Poles, however, and rightly so, do not want to ruin their agriculture by opening their market to all Ukrainian agricultural products, produced much cheaper, because Ukrainians do not have to comply with high and expensive EU requirements regarding the quality of agricultural production.
Not so much. She failed to address many fake statements of the German shills as well as shutting up the German halfbrain patronising Poland. She should destroy all of them for perpetuating the false narrative about problems with rule of law in Poland. It’s fake news! And I’m claiming it as someone who hates socialistic PiS gubbernment!
@@jonathanstuart7289Yes, they are so insignificant that Russian propaganda devotes a lot of time to them.. Besides, if they were insignificant, you wouldn't have watched the video and hysterically commented.
Poland has been invaded too many times by its enemies and betrayed too many times by its 'friends' and 'allies' to allow itself to be weak. We Poles understand what independence mean, our grandfathers and fathers shed hectolitres of blood for freedom and independence, we are not an aggressive and revisionist country, but we know how to defend our own land. Still in the context of Russia - I may surprise you, but we do not consider Russia as an enemy, it should be remembered that Poland and Russia do not have any disputed territories, and there is practically no Russian minority in Poland. So let's stop creating hysteria that Poles and Russians are the biggest enemies. Of course we have fought numerous wars with Russia over the centuries, but it is far more often that we have been attacked (and betrayed) by our Western neighbours....We are a country that loves peace, but as the old Latin saying goes - 'Si vis pacem, para bellum' (if you want peace, get ready for war).
"Of course we have fought numerous wars with Russia over the centuries, but it is far more often that we have been attacked (and betrayed) by our Western neighbors...." - I'm not so sure about the "far more often" part, I think it was roughly similar over the history. However, that's history, today it's pretty clear that we are allies with Germany (UE, NATO, strong economic ties) and consider Russia a real threat to our safety and independence.
Germany and Russia are two sides of the same coin. Germany trades with Russia to the same extent despite sanctions, through countries such as Georgia, Turkey and other former soviet republics
Wealthy EU member states should support Poland in maintaining its food security by offering fair compensation for Polish farmers if the EU wants cheap grain. It’s right for Poland to protect its own farmers from bankruptcy and it’s what all other well governed countries do. Poland has displayed remarkable generosity since the conflict began. Also… it is within the capabilities of Western nations, and especially the United States, to end this war as soon as they feel like it.
Ta wojna nabija kabze ukrom i tym co złom bojowy dstarczają! Kto tym steruje z tylnego siedzenia .O nich dziwnie cicho .Wszystkie sznurki sterujące wojną są w Tel-awiwie.
Due to Poland's 🇵🇱 history of being repeatedly invaded, divided and annexed by Germany, Austria, Russia, the Mongols, the Ottomans, the Bolsheviks/Soviets, etc, I get why Poland would want to beef up their army 🪖. Geographically, Poland is just too easy to invade due to it being so flat.
Actually, if it was so easy we wouldn't be there today. While you are right about the geography the bigger problem was that those flat fields were surrounded by sizable aggressive neighbors who cooperated and invaded from multiple axes. In most of other cases invaders were destroyed and powered our fields with vital elements for plants to grow. Nevertheless trough our history we had ~20 armed conflicts with rus with them always invading, so the pattern of behavior is pretty clear and our reaction is simply calculated.
And now the United States in invading and occupying our Poland and dictating what to do and tells us to support Ukraine. Anyone wanna talk about Americas occupying countries?
It is not entirely true. Half of Poles is Liberal, but not internet "liberal". Polish liberals are against illegal migration and some weird inventions of modern culture. While still being highly tolerant. But they also largely oppose Turbo-Catholics going too far and trying turn country into 19'th century theocratic state. Still, lot of issues is highly overblown. I would say Polish politic is similar but actually less intense then whole MAGA drama in US.
Poland is the oldest democracy in Europe. German democracy started for real after WWII with help of Allied rifles. Germany can't teach Poland about democratic values as they do not get it.
Yeah and maybe not provoke or side with the devil, be careful poland no honestly dont want you ill slavic brother but US is not your friend neither russia is soviet union so enemy
Poland provided Ukraine with the largest military aid in relation to GDP, in addition, Poland sent a lot of important weapons at key moments for the war, such as tanks, Krabs , Pioruny, the world's best Piorun anti-aircraft launchers . The diplomat who said about the ingratitude of theses was the only diplomat who stayed in Kiev during the Russian invasion of Kiev, that's why he said such words about ingratitude that also provoked various earlier actions of Kiev.
@@user-ww1ip1uz5d Poland recognizes the Ukrainian borders of 1991. And only Russia justifies its aggression against Ukraine with Poland's alleged plans. Typical thief translation. I stole so others wouldn't steal. Because they are all thieves.
@@user-ww1ip1uz5d Russians are so dumpp stupid that they don't even understand basic definitions like occupation, nazism, what a fascist state looks like (it's a copy of a state built by Putin ) etc. etc .
@@user-ww1ip1uz5d These are two separate things, for example, the reaction of civil society to the tragedy of the Ukrainians, the large scale of humanitarian aid, and the activity of business in capitalism, the purpose of which is to invest and generate profits.
@@user-ww1ip1uz5d There was no political calculation reaction of people on the tragedy of civilians and crimes committed against civilians in Ukraine but people get used to war and normal life must go on, business must also operate as business.
@@alh6255 tak, to prawda. Ale broniła kwestii migracji a to już dużo. Generalnie wypadła całkiem nieźle i uważam że kolejne jej wystąpienia będą jeszcze lepsze
What this German guest says is rubbish!!!! Poland has to protect own agriculture and save the country from a collapse!!!! Poland ALLOWS UKRAINIAN trains in and to transport their grains but doesn’t allow to sell the cargo in Poland Ukraine EXPECTS help but doesn’t care what price Poland pays for it LETS SEE GERMANY HELPING 😂😂😂😂😂
The Polish ambassador is right. Ukraine and Ukrainians do lack gratitude. This is the general sentiment I feel as well. We had Ukrainians refugees here complaining on how they were "forced" to work in retail like Tesco or ASDA and demanded to be given higher paying and position jobs despite not being fluent in English or qualified.
Even teenagers know having lowest wages during summer work is only good for petty expenses. World forgets that refugies from Palestine, Syria,, Iraq, now Ukraine had houses and land and gardens of different kinds. Out of $300 billion confiscated from Russia as payment for the war or land, Poland can demand billion or 2 for welcoming refugies.
@@zealmediaproductions844 putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine man. Why are apologists of the kremlin so quick to take power and sovereignty away from putin? he chose to invade, he even had a little tv special where all his inner circle recommended the so called 'special military operation'. putin forced war, not Poland nor NATO.
@@zealmediaproductions844 By you? You mean Russia? Russia hold sole responsibility of the war. In every country some politician make some stupid claim and Lavrov and Peskov straight need try to not talk bollocks. Poland wasn't only country what said that, though they absolutely should not.
I am a citizen of Poland. Courts in Poland pass judgments on my behalf, not on behalf of Ursula von der Leyen. Why is Ursula taking away our right to have judicial reform through a democratically elected parliament? Currently, 60% of Polish citizens do not trust the courts, so what legitimacy does Ursula defend? Would Mr. Ben Harris want to be judged by a court he doesn't trust?!!!
The courts in Poland are as legal as the usurper Duda called president, the same as Morawiecki called prime minister, and the illegal constitution, which was not adopted by the nation in the Referendum. This state is illegal and occupies Poland and Poles through political genocides who during covid19 murdered over 200,000 Poles as part of excess deaths. In a word, it's time to denazification of polishspeaking politicians and their security like Police or Army.
I am not familiar with Liliana Smiech or the Warsaw Institute think tank. I looked it up on their website, but I only recognized a few names such as Professor Tomasz Grzegorz Grosse, Kacper Kita, and journalists Aleksandra Rybinska and Krzysztof Rak who participated in a public debate on media and social media. If you require information about Polish-Ukrainian relations, I recommend seeking advice from Marek Budzisz from Strategy & Future, as he is the most knowledgeable person on this topic.
What's the fuss all about...of course Poland is going to send troops to the border ....Wagner is a mercenary group... and thus they can be very unpredictable.
Poland and all other neighboring countries will massively increase their militaries. Russia has only achieved one thing here: it has created a steel belt around its Western border.
Poland situation is complex but optimistic. Situation on east can be handled by - strong military - and multi vector foreign policy like “ In between sea alliance concept” On west situation is more of a “fight against a political intrigue” It is clear that EU leadership controlled by German led EPP party trying to destabilise situation in Poland to help install Government controlled by EPP. By doing so Eurocrats are in breach of EU and International law and treaties. Sole reason for this is to protect German unfair business advantage. Current Polish government manage to put Polish economy on path of aggressive grow, making Poles far wealthier, and this competition to Germany, France , Holland businesses making Polish government a prime target for them. So for Poland best course of action on west is. - maintaining strong economy - rebuilding “intelligence and counterintelligence “ agencies ( past ones was totally infiltrated by Russia or others . Check Polish WSI) Then Polish can start releasing to public all corruption and tax avoidance evidences of western politicians who are behind constant attacks on Poland. And when those individual will start paying heavy personal price for its action , it will make anyone think twice before attacking Poland again. Fortunately political landscape in EU is changing towards right, so that may steam some of leftist hate towards Poles in EU. So Poland have rather bright future 🇵🇱💪.
😂😂😂 Polish government is economically the most leftist government in Europe. More economy is now controled by state than in communism. Next year predicted budget deficit is 40 bilion Euro, or two netto basic salaries per each Pole.
I love how the moderator of this program pushes the fault for the grain embargo problem on Poland and the elections...that problem has been created by the Russians blocking the Ukrainian harbors from exporting the tons of grain to Asia and Africa to the starving people blocking their income, as a 38 million nation producing a lot of grain for the internal market we can take a limited amount of their large grain exports without our farmer communities taking an economic hit that would express itself in their voting in Autumn...always blame the supporter never the ones who created the problem...
Russia has been blocked from supplying its grain to the foreign market. Russia, which is at war with Ukraine, has every reason to block the supply of Ukrainian grain. Anyone in her place, including Poland, would have done the same.
@@user-ww1ip1uz5d Stalin said exactly the same in the 1920s when the Soviets conquered Ukraine for the same reason to kill 20 million Ukrainians using hunger as a weapon to save the bullets...today it's faceless millions in Africa in Asia...ironically people living in countries which governments support Russia as the Global South, vetoed or abstained from vote like India who has plenty of grain and wants a permanent seat in the Security Council (laughable) during the UN Resution to stop the war in Ukraine...different times same methods...
@@user-ww1ip1uz5d You only have apologies for russia's actions don't you? Yet you speak as if you were concerned in another comment, about the supposed Polish occupation of western Ukraine, and how 'we are watching'. Classic.
As for this dispute with UE Court of Justice, the explanation is simply. It is politically motivated by the current operators of the EU structures and is related to Germany influence. This attack from EU is meant to boost the opposition which is supported by Germany. The opposition is practically a party which protects the German's interests in Poland, which before a current government was a semi-colony of Berlin. To understand why these attacks are pure hypocrisy and baseless you should compare the judicial system of Germany which is strongly depended on politicians, and no "rule of law" arguments are not used in this case. Without delving into details, which clearly show how abominable the EU Court of "Justice" is, one thing should convince you: after this unjustified and unlawful pressure, the Polish government withdrew all changes made (so we have situation as of 2015 when Berlin puppets held power), but still the EU commission have not withdrawn the so called "sanctions".
i love how a lot of you dont know what Poland's actual power is, their one of the largest armies in Europe armed with modern western tech and would smashed russia or its allies
That’s the deeper historical layer within Polish-Ukrainian relationships and it’s consequences are frustrating Polish people. During Second World War there was genocide committed by Ukrainian people which ended up of massacre of around 150k-200k innocent Polish civilians by Ukrainian nationalists. This year is 80 anniversary of this massacre and everyone expected Zelenski to at-least allow exhumations of murderd people in Ukraine than Poland. Nothing had happened in this manner even news came out that Ukrainian government allowed Germans to exhume they own Wehrmacht troops. Many say that if exhumations go ahead it will show scale of atrocities and sadistic trauma victims received. This way it might decrease Western help in the war. Also Ukrainian government had hidden this inconvenient historical event from openly spoken in Ukraine. The other aspect is thousands of young Ukrainian males who bribed their border guards to escape war are now nuisance in Poland. Many of them are drunk everywhere and cause antisocial behaviour towards Polish citizens. This makes many Polish people unhappy with lack of appreciation from Ukrainian side.
does it worth to keep reminding bad things from the past from your neighbours??!! it won’t help for future relationship.Poland’s and Lithuanias war???!!! it did happen and who is a live now have to make sure it won’t happen again. trust and respect to each other makes us stronger against ours enemies and we know who’s our enemy
@@algijurawhat allies? Ukrainians were always fighting against poland. Every century allied with polish enemy. The so called lithuania is actually even worse- ponary massacre.
Mieszkam we Wrocławiu i nigdy nie miałem problemów z Ukraińcami.Na moim osiedlu (Kozanów) widzę głównie kobiety i grupki hałaśliwych dzieciaków.Te dzieciaki już mówią po polsku,jak skończą Polskie szkoły mogą zostać wartościowymi obywatelami.
To all these CIA and Mossad bots - I hope you are paid well, because your taxpayers money are spent on anything but not on supporting he wealth of your nations.
I live in Warsaw, I follow the media on a daily basis and I have never ever heard of this young geopolitical "expert" before. My first thought was who actually pays her.
Putin says Poland needs to be reminded of its history? Russo-speak , in other words , Russia will take over eastern Poland again like in Stalin / Hitler pact , killing 42,000 polish elite in katyn forest in 1940 by russian troops , Poland needs a new lesson says Putin
People forget these things too easily, or they claim those events are fabricated, justified, etc. For example, there is no shortage of people (essentially tankies) who will genuinely argue that the 'Kulaks had it coming'. It's insane....
Dobre! Ale się uśmiałam. Gdyby nie sprzęt wojskowy podarowany Ukrainie przez inne kraje, Ukraina byłaby już dawno przejęta przez Rosję. Gdzie sprzęt, który Ukraina powinna mieć? Po zajęciu Kremla, Ukraina powinnam była kupować mnóstwo sprzętu wojskowego. A teraz wychodzą afery z oligarchami, którzy sprzedawali sprzęt z zachodnich ziem. Brawo!
Belarus signed the union state with Russia. Bottom line: Belarus is one dictator's death away of becoming part of Russia. Now Russia has a history of not knowing where its borders are located. Russia has proved recently it is willing to invade other sovereign countries. When was the last time the US annexed a sovereign country? What point are you trying to make?
Losing Sovereignty is when you allow a neighbouring country to exile a democratically elected leader. The average Belarusian doesn't want war and dislike Lukashenko
Only problem I see with Poland getting a lot of its hardware from South Korea is that it's a long distance relationship. Otherwise I think they make a cute couple.
Maybe because German army factories created so many problems with army parts for Poland? France and Germany didn't agreed for Polish share with creating of a new tank?
How come Al Jazeera has become so blatantly partisan? How can bring three persons supporting one side together and call it a debate? Where is Russian view point? This is no independent journalism!
Po obejrzeniu tego filmu można by pomysleć, że wszyscy w Polsce drżą ze strachu przed inwazją ze strony Rosji i Białorusi. Nonsens. Rząd owszem próbuje wszystkich Polaków zastraszyć jak każdy reżim, i wmawiać że tylko on jest lekarstwem. W rzeczywistości prawdopodobieństwo ataku na Polskę jest niemal zerowe. Rosja nigdy nie zaatakuje kraju NATO, chyba że konkretnie sprowokowana (tak jak atak na Ukrainę był sprowokowany serią wcześniejszych wydarzeń ze strony USA i CIA jak Snowden, Majdan i odsunięcie Janukowycza, zablokowanie Nord Stream2 i nakładanie nieskończonej ilości sankcji). Żeby Rosja zaatakowała Polskę to z terytorium Polski lub krajów NATO musiałyby nastąpić wcześniejszy atak na Rosję. Putin nie jest głupi żeby bić sięz całą Europą.
Have you taken too much strong drinks or some white powder to utter such rubbish and nonsense? You have to definitely put them aside or consult a good therapist.
German lies. Polish reform of the judiciary system was similar to what works in Germany or in France, where the government appoint judges. There real reason of withdrawal UE founds from Poland is that Germany looses its influence in Poland. Poles voted for a party that is not controlled by Germany. This is the real source of the problem.
The arrogance of this German surprised me as a Pole, to be honest. Even though I am not a supporter of the party currently ruling in Poland, with which we have problems, the position presented by the EU and people who think like this expert is counterproductive. Especially telling us Poles what European values are is simply ridiculous. After all, Poland is far from being an authoritarian country like Turkey or Hungary because, due to history, we value freedom and sovereignty more than countries that have not experienced a history such as Poland's. That's why pigeonholing us into such a category only annoys Poles and turns us against the attempts of interventions in our politics even if they are right. Moreover, if Western Europe wants to rely on the security guaranteed by countries with with they have ideological differences such as Poland, Turkey and the USA, without increasing their own defense budgets, and on the other hand they think that they can tell them what to do without even paying for it, they are stupid. It doesn't work like that anywhere in the world and it never worked. ;) As for whether Poles trust NATO, I will say this. They have confidence in NATO and its leadership, which is fresh-minded, but within this NATO there is no doubt that there are weak links like Germany, Hungary, other sluggish countries that had good relations with Russia and pro-Russian trolls placed in politics and that is it which, among other things, threatens European values. In turn, the countries that constitute the core of NATO and determine its strength today are the USA, Great Britain, the Scandinavian countries, Poland and Romania and, paradoxically, also Ukraine. If there is a problem with the import of Ukrainian grain, it is not a problem that evil Poland does not want to allow its food market to be ruined, but it is a problem that Russia attacked Ukraine and the export of this grain is difficult. This grain fed Africa. We will not solve this problem by having Poles eat this grain now, but by providing Ukraine with military planes and long-range missiles so that they can finally effectively end this war. The discussion about the import of grain by the EU is another substitute problem, not to talk about ways to end what is the cause of these problems.
in first few months of war between Ukraine and Russia, when Germans told to Ukraine's ambassador that its not worth to help Ukraine and he started to cry, Poland sent around 300 tanks and Germans were proposing 5000 helmets. I think Germans were affraid of sending more because of their precious Nord Stream 2 pipeline with blood of Ukrainian children inside. Btw it reminds me of grandfathers of todays Germans who were putting Polish children into gaz rooms to kill them.
Like Poland stand on many things. I dont like when they undermine court independence. EU holds or atleast slows authoritarian slide of Poland and Hungary with internal check and policies, but this is such a shame for such a great country.
The EU should focus on fairness within its own structures, for example it should stick to the rules that the member states have agreed to. Unlawfully changing the rules without the agreement of the member states does not sound like something akin to the rule of law (illigal interference with our internal justice system to support Polish opposition). If the EU/German elites think that they will exclude Poland as a growing military and economic player through false accusations of lack of justice and by supporting Polish political opposition - I assure you that we Poles will not give in.
Poland do not try to undermine court independence. But we recognize that the power of courts can not be absolute. There must be a kind of democratically based control of each branch of the government. That include the courts and it is clearly stipulated by the Article 2 and 4 of Poland's constitution. As of now no such democratic control over the courts is not present in our judicial system. This must be emended.
Russia has no chance with the Poles, it would be the same as on September 8, 1610, the Polish troops of Hetman Żółkiewski captured Moscow and occupied it for two years.🎉🎉
I feel Poland's leading party wants the conflict to escalate a bit. In most countries, national security and wars get elections pushed out. Their opposition is in a tough spot.
@@zawiszaczarny7876 PiS still leading polls. but i guess they might slip slightly bellow total majory im sure they can find some nutters to support them. in a coalition.
But it was the opposition in Poland who screamed loudest that Belarusian helicopters that crossed Poland border should have been shot down :)))) You are rather idiot who knows nothing about politics in Poland.
Rather border is strengthened and evryone takes the situation seriously because if an incident happens without a strong response, the opposition in Poland will be scream that the defense minister should be resigned :)))
For a long time Poland was a European superpower. Don't forget that Poland is the only one country that successfully fought Russia and kept Moscow. Poland was a huge country, its eastern border was less than 300 km from Moscow.
No ,we dont need higher taxes, but we should apply taxes to BIG FORREIGN CORPORATIONS ( especially these from GERMANY , RUSSIA ) and USA who are NOT PAYING enough.
@@marciecorda5209 We're paying too much. Do you know the cost of developing new oil and gas fields? How much logistics and industries to produce petrol and engines' oil cost? 😅
The thing about the judiciary in Poland is that the majority of society wants changes, because in Poland the judge is not responsible for anything. For the sentences where he clearly put an innocent man in prison or because of his sentence, the man lost all his property. Most of these things are not a mistake, but intentional because someone benefited from it. eg reprivatization how can a judge take a word that a 120-year-old woman buys or sells real estate (without checking whether she is alive) How many people in the world live at this age? The judge steals money from the counter in the store, ruling that he was distracted. Should get a penalty (demotion to a lower rank) Now, if I were a thief and this judge was trying me, I'd tell him I was distracted. Poland has created an elite of judges, judges are held accountable by judges (i.e. zero penalties) This needs to be changed, according to the PIS authorities currently ruling in Poland. But that's the problem, not how they do it. We are coming to a situation where reforms need to be carried out, but not in this way. The EU has ordered the money to be blocked and says it has everything to go back to what it was in the rule of law. Where judges are a caste, they are unshakeable. And it is a paradox that the EU defends the caste and allows them everything, while Pis wants a bad change in the judiciary. So, in my humble opinion, yes, reforms are needed. But I don't agree with how PiS is doing it, and I don't agree with the EU that makes caste continue to rule in Poland.
Like, government shouldnt have any way how to impact judges. You can change system without taking indirect control over courts, theynjust are at majority power and they can get foothold for years to come even if fail lobby changes as they want. Similiar situation with israel. You can change judicial system, if you wan to, without grabbing power for yourself. But why shouls you do that, if you can enrich yourself or increase your political power for zealous reforms in future.
@@Paparapatheraper-POL I'm sorry, but you are obviously repeating Polish government's propaganda 1 to 1, and even use the exact same propaganda terms they do (like calling all judges "kasta" - the "caste", no one else does that). A few frindge cases, like some cases of wrong sentences or some judge being cought shoplifting (sic!) are no reason to throw the entire judiciary system under the bus. And the truth is, that: A) all of the reforms enacted so far by the Law & Justice government didn't do anything to improve the functioning of courts, if anything court trials take even longer now than they did a few years ago; and B) reforming judiciary system in order to fix it was never a problem, and EU has nothing against that. The problem is that many of the reforms proposed by Law & Justice aim to make the whole system subservient to politicians and the government, and in the process destroying courts' independence, which is one of the core values not only of the EU, but all democracies in general. Just look at what is happening in Israel right now, they are not in the EU, yet they have massive protests on the streets for the exact same reason, because their government (Netanyahu) is also destroying judiciary independence.
W Polsce po 1945 niestety nigdy nie było dobrego sądownictwa. Najpierw było totalnie podporządkowane komunistycznej władzy, a później właściwie nie zostało zreformowane albo zostało zreformowane tak nieudolnie, że wytworzyła się sytuacja patologiczna. Wszyscy chcą to zmienić poza małą częścią sędziów, którzy sami o sobie mówią, że są nadzwyczjną kastą (nawet przed kamerami). A ponieważ ci ludzie nie czują żadnego poparcia w społeczeństwie, pobiegli do UE. Ona ich ślepo poparła, bo jest to doskonały pretekst, by uderzyć w nielubiany w Berlinie i Brukseli rząd PiSu. Napewno reformę sądownictwa można przeprowadzić jeszcze lepiej, ale ten rząd jako pierwszy wogle się za to zabrał. Wbrew temu co pokazują zagraniczne media, większość polskiego społeczeństwa w tej sprawie popiera rząd i jest oburzona nadużyciami ze strony UE
I must praise video for neutrality and while problems are bring up, they are not exaggerated. With ironically German guy talking a nonsens. Where they "morality" was, when they threaten Polish internal security with Nord Stream? Currently Poland has huge internal conflict between Liberal and Conservative side. What tend to bleed, but its not actually as bad as people think. Law issue is more due to interpretation of the law, rather then deliberate attempt of authoritarian rule. As for Russia. There is such saying. Russia has only enemies and the slaves. Polish investments are purely defensive and all threats and accusations or Russia toward Poland, are mostly mental projections of they own Imperial and Colonial intentions.
Is there any politician in the world who does not "hold to his power". For example, Mr. Putin has been holding to his power for 24 year now. Is this normal?
Why there is no speaker from Russia, debate would be much more interesting. I don't like this German guy he is seem narrow viewed and doesn't see the bigger picture.
What you want hear from russia ? that Ukraine dont exist ? and russia brings freedom by bombing cities for a year and the Wagnerians are heroes because they rape women and children and cut off the penises of prisoners ???
Bigger picture is that China is the enemy of western civilizationa and putin started a war in Ukraine because every democratic state near russia is a threat to the fascist state model that Putin is building and to his corrupt system of power. Putin has no way out because any kind of domocracy would judge his crimes and the fact that he is the biggest thief in russia so he is afraid of democracy like fire
Respect for Poland from Argentina
Take Bergolio back home.
Huge respect for Argenitna from Poland!! ❤
@@Wojti0182 no one wants Bergoglio but it's not his fault that heretic is Argentinian. 😂
@@Wojti0182at least he does not hide pedophilles 😂
Thank You and wish all the best :)
God Blessed Poland.
This interview should have a title "How Germany see Poland and what issues it finds there". And Germany didn't chose democracy it was forced by USA!
Thank you VERY MUCH, my thought exactly 😅
.NATO is an instrument in US hands!Poland must buy everything USA want to sell in price fixed by USA.They don,t care about poor social situation in Poland they want to push Poland into ukrainian war in the case of Ukraine loose.They are ready to sacrifice Poland in the name of Wall Street and NATO interests
People in Poland remember German "values" and don't want these guys to mess up again. We choose our own way. There is nothing like European values. These guys want Europe perpetuals to be their colony. Look at Greece, Spain, Portugal. Are they happy with their European values?
What is interesting is that while Russian accusations of "Polish" imperialism, is projection of they own Imperialism.
Accusations of German guy are protections of they own insecurities toward authoritarian rule. And while I despise current Polish government, whole conflict is rather issue of interpretation of the Law, then attempt to sizing the power. At least for now. Lot of drama is result of Polish internal conflict between Liberals and Conservatives. Rather then any sort of devious plot. For reminder. Poland was second modern democracy after US.
And first democracy in Europe at all, since 16th century! Germans tend to call Poland "young democracy", like they're an old one, they had brief democracy for 20 years in the period of 1920-1930, that's it. Their democracy is imported from USA since 1945. So much for it.
Love poland and poles every holiday i ve been in krakow from london
Aww thank you! ❤ much love to great people of Great Britain 🇬🇧😄
Aha, przylatujesz na chlanie?
@@arturkwiatkowski6037póki nie chami to zapraszamy. I niech bierze że sobą kolegów i koleżanki.
Poland is the most underrated country in the world. It is situated between two powers, separating Germany and Russia. To rule over the West or the East, one must pass through Poland, which is why there have been so many wars here, and this country has been destroyed from various directions over the centuries. The fact that Poland exists can be called a miracle. Both Germany and Russia will try to prevent Poland from developing too much so that they can keep it under their influence, hence Poland's orientation towards the USA.
The fact that Poland and Poles exist at all is a true miracle and God's providence. Probably no other Nation would have been able to survive, to preserve the continuity of the state, language, culture, traditions, etc. in the very heart of Europe (on the Central European plain, where there are no natural obstacles).... Between two powers; Germany and Russia. The 20th century was a huge disaster for Poland, we lost the largest number of people in percentage terms, the capital was practically completely demolished, communism was forcibly imposed on us, yet we were reborn and Poland is flourishing - both economically and culturally.
wow , thats is very well said true
Exactly to the point. Thank for this sober assessment.
It’s not any miracle - it’s our resilience and I compromised morals that keep our people and country alive! But we do have shills amongst us just like the two present at this panel!
LOL Like USA doesn't have an Imperialist agenda too... You think USA will help Poland in ANYTHING?!?? Well... You can look at Ukraine and see.... And it's not like they are happy with China being a superpower also LOL Soooooooo like... USA is trying to stop China to become a superpower, but it will help Poland become one?! Good one dude! You are funny
Poland represents European values as much as Germany. Is this man so full of himself to dictate all Europeans what European values should be? Germany has no monopoly on them as far as I know. Polish values: Solidarity (All countries in the world are seen as equal partners and treated as well as they treat us); The rule of law and hospitality (Protecting war refugees, not illegal migrants. Enabling human trafficking and let uncontrolled migration in Europe without sufficient security checks is not accepted in Poland); Democracy (Accepting and honoring the outcome of democratic elections in Poland and other European countries and not undermining governments of any country just because we don't agree with their liberal/conservative way of ruling their country); Safety (Protecting Europe from extremism, terrorism, ruscism, nazizm and communism - small letters, no respect); Free speech (Poles can say whatever we want and we don't pay attention to so called political correctness. What you see is what you get). Poland supports Ukraine in almost unlimited way, the grain issue is the only one that we disagree with. Poland has enough grain for our domestic needs and we have every right to block Ukrainian grain coming to Polish market but we allowed them to send their grain further to Germany and any other country through our territory.
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This is typical of the Germans.
Couldn't agree more! 👍👍👍
Yes, Germany has the right to dictate on moral issues. The level of understanding ethics is lower in Poland due to 40 years of communism.
@@LMB222 Germany mordred millions of Polish people, stollen their goods (art, banks, etc) will learn Poland about morality? Are you stupid or stupid?
The transfer of Ukrainian grain through Poland is going smoothly and has increased month by month over the last year, so Ukraine, among other things, thanks to Polish help, has no problem with shipping grain to its recipients in, for example, Africa. Poles, however, and rightly so, do not want to ruin their agriculture by opening their market to all Ukrainian agricultural products, produced much cheaper, because Ukrainians do not have to comply with high and expensive EU requirements regarding the quality of agricultural production.
O prawda
Much respect to poland from romania
I’m from Poland, respect for what??? Our government betrayed our land and soled it to Americans. Wtf is wrong with you open your eyes
thx
Right back at you🫶
Thank You and wish all the best (from Poland)
Proud of this Polish girl 🤍❤️
Not so much. She failed to address many fake statements of the German shills as well as shutting up the German halfbrain patronising Poland. She should destroy all of them for perpetuating the false narrative about problems with rule of law in Poland. It’s fake news! And I’m claiming it as someone who hates socialistic PiS gubbernment!
Estonia 🇪🇪 Latvia 🇱🇻 Lithuania 🇱🇹 Poland 🇵🇱 Ukraine 🇺🇦
4 insignificant countries🤣
Ukraine doesn't count 🤣
@@jonathanstuart7289Yes, they are so insignificant that Russian propaganda devotes a lot of time to them.. Besides, if they were insignificant, you wouldn't have watched the video and hysterically commented.
@@jonathanstuart7289shut up looser 🤖
God bless Russia and Ukraine. Kick out the American coup government and make peace.
Poland has been invaded too many times by its enemies and betrayed too many times by its 'friends' and 'allies' to allow itself to be weak. We Poles understand what independence mean, our grandfathers and fathers shed hectolitres of blood for freedom and independence, we are not an aggressive and revisionist country, but we know how to defend our own land. Still in the context of Russia - I may surprise you, but we do not consider Russia as an enemy, it should be remembered that Poland and Russia do not have any disputed territories, and there is practically no Russian minority in Poland. So let's stop creating hysteria that Poles and Russians are the biggest enemies. Of course we have fought numerous wars with Russia over the centuries, but it is far more often that we have been attacked (and betrayed) by our Western neighbours....We are a country that loves peace, but as the old Latin saying goes - 'Si vis pacem, para bellum' (if you want peace, get ready for war).
"Of course we have fought numerous wars with Russia over the centuries, but it is far more often that we have been attacked (and betrayed) by our Western neighbors...." - I'm not so sure about the "far more often" part, I think it was roughly similar over the history. However, that's history, today it's pretty clear that we are allies with Germany (UE, NATO, strong economic ties) and consider Russia a real threat to our safety and independence.
Russia is our enemy for sure but Germany is a phoney ally. They are actively seeking to undermine development of Poland.
Germany and Russia are two sides of the same coin. Germany trades with Russia to the same extent despite sanctions, through countries such as Georgia, Turkey and other former soviet republics
Wealthy EU member states should support Poland in maintaining its food security by offering fair compensation for Polish farmers if the EU wants cheap grain. It’s right for Poland to protect its own farmers from bankruptcy and it’s what all other well governed countries do. Poland has displayed remarkable generosity since the conflict began. Also… it is within the capabilities of Western nations, and especially the United States, to end this war as soon as they feel like it.
Ta wojna nabija kabze ukrom i tym co złom bojowy dstarczają! Kto tym steruje z tylnego siedzenia .O nich dziwnie cicho .Wszystkie sznurki sterujące wojną są w Tel-awiwie.
@@boguslaw-ki8xqmyślałem, że w Moskwie. Dzięki Dima za info
Due to Poland's 🇵🇱 history of being repeatedly invaded, divided and annexed by Germany, Austria, Russia, the Mongols, the Ottomans, the Bolsheviks/Soviets, etc, I get why Poland would want to beef up their army 🪖.
Geographically, Poland is just too easy to invade due to it being so flat.
Actually, if it was so easy we wouldn't be there today. While you are right about the geography the bigger problem was that those flat fields were surrounded by sizable aggressive neighbors who cooperated and invaded from multiple axes. In most of other cases invaders were destroyed and powered our fields with vital elements for plants to grow. Nevertheless trough our history we had ~20 armed conflicts with rus with them always invading, so the pattern of behavior is pretty clear and our reaction is simply calculated.
Письки неблагодарные,если бы не русские вас немцы под ноль вас истребили бы
And now the United States in invading and occupying our Poland and dictating what to do and tells us to support Ukraine. Anyone wanna talk about Americas occupying countries?
@@BBR201 loool
@@herrgolf им Америка скажет они плача пойдут умирать,Польши давно нет есть территория подвластная американцам а у них есть планы на мясоундерменцев!
Interesting that in Poland traditional family values, Catholicism are in conflict with EU “modern liberal democratic” hegemony .
Poland isn't Catholic. It's an ongoing stereotype that is plainly wrong.
@@reinhardvonlohengramm6296those are declarations in surveys.
@@Matti_us_Alpe only by leftist.....
It is not entirely true. Half of Poles is Liberal, but not internet "liberal". Polish liberals are against illegal migration and some weird inventions of modern culture. While still being highly tolerant. But they also largely oppose Turbo-Catholics going too far and trying turn country into 19'th century theocratic state. Still, lot of issues is highly overblown. I would say Polish politic is similar but actually less intense then whole MAGA drama in US.
@@TheRezro gdzie ucza takich durnot????????
Poland is the oldest democracy in Europe. German democracy started for real after WWII with help of Allied rifles. Germany can't teach Poland about democratic values as they do not get it.
Looking at proud Polish soldiers marching, I feel ashamed when looking at the potato-heads that play army in Germany
We have to protect our border at all cost!
lol🤣
Yeah and maybe not provoke or side with the devil, be careful poland no honestly dont want you ill slavic brother but US is not your friend neither russia is soviet union so enemy
@@masterp5902what's funny?
@@filipkogut8533 probably their pathetic mug they see every morning.
Poland provided Ukraine with the largest military aid in relation to GDP, in addition, Poland sent a lot of important weapons at key moments for the war, such as tanks, Krabs , Pioruny, the world's best Piorun anti-aircraft launchers . The diplomat who said about the ingratitude of theses was the only diplomat who stayed in Kiev during the Russian invasion of Kiev, that's why he said such words about ingratitude that also provoked various earlier actions of Kiev.
@@user-ww1ip1uz5d Poland recognizes the Ukrainian borders of 1991. And only Russia justifies its aggression against Ukraine with Poland's alleged plans. Typical thief translation. I stole so others wouldn't steal. Because they are all thieves.
@@user-ww1ip1uz5d Occupation of western Ukraine ?:))))
@@user-ww1ip1uz5d Russians are so dumpp stupid that they don't even understand basic definitions like occupation, nazism, what a fascist state looks like (it's a copy of a state built by Putin ) etc. etc .
@@user-ww1ip1uz5d These are two separate things, for example, the reaction of civil society to the tragedy of the Ukrainians, the large scale of humanitarian aid, and the activity of business in capitalism, the purpose of which is to invest and generate profits.
@@user-ww1ip1uz5d There was no political calculation reaction of people on the tragedy of civilians and crimes committed against civilians in Ukraine but people get used to war and normal life must go on, business must also operate as business.
Liliana, dziękujemy za mocny głos w tej dyskusji i obronę naszego wizerunku!
Obrazą naszego wizerunku jest PiS
Liliana palnęła głupotę, ze rolnictwo to główna gałąź gospodarki Polski i Europy środkowej. Ona żyje w 19 wieku.
@@alh6255 tak, to prawda. Ale broniła kwestii migracji a to już dużo. Generalnie wypadła całkiem nieźle i uważam że kolejne jej wystąpienia będą jeszcze lepsze
@TheRezro - głupiś
Niestety Liliana mało rozumie i kiepsko reprezentuje nasze interesy. Ten drugi pajac to w ogole porażka.
What this German guest says is rubbish!!!! Poland has to protect own agriculture and save the country from a collapse!!!! Poland ALLOWS UKRAINIAN trains in and to transport their grains but doesn’t allow to sell the cargo in Poland
Ukraine EXPECTS help but doesn’t care what price Poland pays for it
LETS SEE GERMANY HELPING 😂😂😂😂😂
The Polish ambassador is right. Ukraine and Ukrainians do lack gratitude. This is the general sentiment I feel as well.
We had Ukrainians refugees here complaining on how they were "forced" to work in retail like Tesco or ASDA and demanded to be given higher paying and position jobs despite not being fluent in English or qualified.
Even teenagers know having lowest wages during summer work is only good for petty expenses. World forgets that refugies from Palestine, Syria,, Iraq, now Ukraine had houses and land and gardens of different kinds. Out of $300 billion confiscated from Russia as payment for the war or land, Poland can demand billion or 2 for welcoming refugies.
Poland is dreaming of enslaving Ukraine, and only those with the brain of a snail cannot see it.
You forced a war on them and claim they lack gratitude? Braaa
@@zealmediaproductions844 putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine man. Why are apologists of the kremlin so quick to take power and sovereignty away from putin? he chose to invade, he even had a little tv special where all his inner circle recommended the so called 'special military operation'. putin forced war, not Poland nor NATO.
@@zealmediaproductions844 By you? You mean Russia? Russia hold sole responsibility of the war.
In every country some politician make some stupid claim and Lavrov and Peskov straight need try to not talk bollocks. Poland wasn't only country what said that, though they absolutely should not.
I❤ Ukraine and Poland farm Pakistan
❤thank you! Much love to you as well🫶
I am a citizen of Poland. Courts in Poland pass judgments on my behalf, not on behalf of Ursula von der Leyen. Why is Ursula taking away our right to have judicial reform through a democratically elected parliament? Currently, 60% of Polish citizens do not trust the courts, so what legitimacy does Ursula defend? Would Mr. Ben Harris want to be judged by a court he doesn't trust?!!!
The courts in Poland are as legal as the usurper Duda called president, the same as Morawiecki called prime minister, and the illegal constitution, which was not adopted by the nation in the Referendum. This state is illegal and occupies Poland and Poles through political genocides who during covid19 murdered over 200,000 Poles as part of excess deaths. In a word, it's time to denazification of polishspeaking politicians and their security like Police or Army.
Currently 80% of Polish citizens don`t trust politicians.
Exactly.....she need to change attitude and focus more on solving problem not creating them.
Wagner are like an annoying mosquito flying around Nato's bedroom, if they dared land they'd get splatted.
I’m really impressed with Aljazira; great questions, in depth knowledge on up to day issues troubling Poland and Ukraine relationship.
@dzikiwaz8987 agree 👏
@dzikiwaz8987 I don't think it was intentional.
@dzikiwaz8987 Al Jazeera is known from being neutral. If you do not criticize Kuwejt.
@dzikiwaz8987 I mean there is many reason to criticize Polish government. Name one far-left Polish party in Sejm?
@dzikiwaz8987 And yet. You refuse to specify what those parties are.
I am not familiar with Liliana Smiech or the Warsaw Institute think tank. I looked it up on their website, but I only recognized a few names such as Professor Tomasz Grzegorz Grosse, Kacper Kita, and journalists Aleksandra Rybinska and Krzysztof Rak who participated in a public debate on media and social media. If you require information about Polish-Ukrainian relations, I recommend seeking advice from Marek Budzisz from Strategy & Future, as he is the most knowledgeable person on this topic.
Thank you For acknowledging we play crucial role 🙏
What's the fuss all about...of course Poland is going to send troops to the border ....Wagner is a mercenary group... and thus they can be very unpredictable.
Poland and all other neighboring countries will massively increase their militaries. Russia has only achieved one thing here: it has created a steel belt around its Western border.
😂😂😂😂
@@haskalah431 comments on this channel, how much you get paid for one, cuz it's either that or you are mental
@@haskalah Yup. Irony of Putin's hubris causing, what he made up. Is really funny.
Liliana Smiech: "our main branch of the economy [of Central European Countries] is indeed agriculture" (What?!)
dobor gosci, jak i komentarze nie byly przypadkowe. dobrze, ze dziewczyna znalazla w sobie dosc przyzwoitosci, zeby sprostowac aroganckiego szwaba...
She is stupid in some ways
Respect to Mighty Polish Army🇵🇱🤝🇫🇮 from Finnish Army reservist sergeant
Respect for proxy war?
@@007naitHe was quite clear. Your stupidity isn't the best response.
No, 80% of the World is against your Western BS. Stay home.e, and you will be safe.
Russians don't start the wars, but they end them!
@@007nait you must be trumpist or putist...respect for FREEDOM, PEACE and JUSTICE
Slava Ukraine and Piland!
Poland situation is complex but optimistic.
Situation on east can be handled by
- strong military
- and multi vector foreign policy like “ In between sea alliance concept”
On west situation is more of a “fight against a political intrigue”
It is clear that EU leadership controlled by German led EPP party trying to destabilise situation in Poland to help install Government controlled by EPP. By doing so Eurocrats are in breach of EU and International law and treaties. Sole reason for this is to protect German unfair business advantage. Current Polish government manage to put Polish economy on path of aggressive grow, making Poles far wealthier, and this competition to Germany, France , Holland businesses making Polish government a prime target for them.
So for Poland best course of action on west is.
- maintaining strong economy
- rebuilding “intelligence and counterintelligence “ agencies ( past ones was totally infiltrated by Russia or others . Check Polish WSI)
Then Polish can start releasing to public all corruption and tax avoidance evidences of western politicians who are behind constant attacks on Poland.
And when those individual will start paying heavy personal price for its action , it will make anyone think twice before attacking Poland again.
Fortunately political landscape in EU is changing towards right, so that may steam some of leftist hate towards Poles in EU.
So Poland have rather bright future 🇵🇱💪.
It's true.
I haven't read a biggest pile of bull in months.😆
@@polymorphesquirrel .🤔 it’s actually surprising you can even read.😁
😂😂😂 Polish government is economically the most leftist government in Europe. More economy is now controled by state than in communism. Next year predicted budget deficit is 40 bilion Euro, or two netto basic salaries per each Pole.
I love how the moderator of this program pushes the fault for the grain embargo problem on Poland and the elections...that problem has been created by the Russians blocking the Ukrainian harbors from exporting the tons of grain to Asia and Africa to the starving people blocking their income, as a 38 million nation producing a lot of grain for the internal market we can take a limited amount of their large grain exports without our farmer communities taking an economic hit that would express itself in their voting in Autumn...always blame the supporter never the ones who created the problem...
Russia has been blocked from supplying its grain to the foreign market. Russia, which is at war with Ukraine, has every reason to block the supply of Ukrainian grain. Anyone in her place, including Poland, would have done the same.
@@user-ww1ip1uz5d Stalin said exactly the same in the 1920s when the Soviets conquered Ukraine for the same reason to kill 20 million Ukrainians using hunger as a weapon to save the bullets...today it's faceless millions in Africa in Asia...ironically people living in countries which governments support Russia as the Global South, vetoed or abstained from vote like India who has plenty of grain and wants a permanent seat in the Security Council (laughable) during the UN Resution to stop the war in Ukraine...different times same methods...
Just keeping name of Socrates Don't make you like it , you need to think a lot before saying!!!!
@@user-ww1ip1uz5d You only have apologies for russia's actions don't you? Yet you speak as if you were concerned in another comment, about the supposed Polish occupation of western Ukraine, and how 'we are watching'. Classic.
@@user-ww1ip1uz5d*USER* bot 🤖 spreading ruZzian-Lies / propaganda‼️ 🚨 REPORT
As for this dispute with UE Court of Justice, the explanation is simply. It is politically motivated by the current operators of the EU structures and is related to Germany influence. This attack from EU is meant to boost the opposition which is supported by Germany. The opposition is practically a party which protects the German's interests in Poland, which before a current government was a semi-colony of Berlin. To understand why these attacks are pure hypocrisy and baseless you should compare the judicial system of Germany which is strongly depended on politicians, and no "rule of law" arguments are not used in this case. Without delving into details, which clearly show how abominable the EU Court of "Justice" is, one thing should convince you: after this unjustified and unlawful pressure, the Polish government withdrew all changes made (so we have situation as of 2015 when Berlin puppets held power), but still the EU commission have not withdrawn the so called "sanctions".
The polish lady is beautiful, very beautiful.
Who cares?
Nobody know her in Poland
We do have more articulate people in Poland than the two invited here, I encourage AlJazeera to invite Jacek Bartosiak next time, for example
i love how a lot of you dont know what Poland's actual power is, their one of the largest armies in Europe armed with modern western tech and would smashed russia or its allies
Расскажи подробнее не ржал давно?
@@user-jr8vh7vc8m comment makes no sense because you're saying it in Bulgarian
@@Cheese_Boi1986 за кого сейчас братушки?
if you dont start making sense im not gonna bother to reply tp you @@user-jr8vh7vc8m
This isn't even their final form
That’s the deeper historical layer within Polish-Ukrainian relationships and it’s consequences are frustrating Polish people.
During Second World War there was genocide committed by Ukrainian people which ended up of massacre of around 150k-200k innocent Polish civilians by Ukrainian nationalists. This year is 80 anniversary of this massacre and everyone expected Zelenski to at-least allow exhumations of murderd people in Ukraine than Poland. Nothing had happened in this manner even news came out that Ukrainian government allowed Germans to exhume they own Wehrmacht troops. Many say that if exhumations go ahead it will show scale of atrocities and sadistic trauma victims received. This way it might decrease Western help in the war. Also Ukrainian government had hidden this inconvenient historical event from openly spoken in Ukraine.
The other aspect is thousands of young Ukrainian males who bribed their border guards to escape war are now nuisance in Poland. Many of them are drunk everywhere and cause antisocial behaviour towards Polish citizens. This makes many Polish people unhappy with lack of appreciation from Ukrainian side.
does it worth to keep reminding bad things from the past from your neighbours??!! it won’t help for future relationship.Poland’s and Lithuanias war???!!!
it did happen and who is a live now have to make sure it won’t happen again. trust and respect to each other makes us stronger against ours enemies and we know who’s our enemy
@@algijura 'A Nation That Forgets It's Past Has No Future' - Winston Churchill
@@algijurawhat allies? Ukrainians were always fighting against poland. Every century allied with polish enemy. The so called lithuania is actually even worse- ponary massacre.
@@algijuraPonary pamiętamy!
Mieszkam we Wrocławiu i nigdy nie miałem problemów z Ukraińcami.Na moim osiedlu (Kozanów) widzę głównie kobiety i grupki hałaśliwych dzieciaków.Te dzieciaki już mówią po polsku,jak skończą Polskie szkoły mogą zostać wartościowymi obywatelami.
To all you russian bots in the comments, hope you get paid well on this video before your country falls apart 😂
To all these CIA and Mossad bots - I hope you are paid well, because your taxpayers money are spent on anything but not on supporting he wealth of your nations.
well we know their nor being paid well anymore due to their currency collapsing lol
at least their money is worth something lol @@ernestolynch1926
Don't forget to pay your taxes for corrupt Ukraine, as their officials really love your money 😂
@@user-ol4sn6je7c i would rather my taxes go on currupt Ukraine then leaving it for a even more currupt Russia
Go cope elsewhere
Is not Poland a member of NATO?? Yes it is
3 Anti-Russia debating Russia.....
To be fair it's hard to take any Pro-Russian types seriously.
IKR! It’s like the “peace summit” where Russia weren’t invited. How can anyone take it seriously?
@@Campaigner82 Nobody did. It was more about diplomatic posturing.
yeah, 5,000 Wagner troops with no heavy weapons will destroy all of Poland and NATO forces as well. LOL!!
@@remogatron1010
Well it's 60 000 + Military. Against useless NATO, who couldn't even fight the goat herders 😂😂😂
I live in Warsaw, I follow the media on a daily basis and I have never ever heard of this young geopolitical "expert" before. My first thought was who actually pays her.
if ure listening to mainstream crappy media all day then no suprise, change your media, if you didnt hear about that institute.
All paid by NATO
They are from the institutes. People like that usually participate more in specialist debates, then common politic.
Putin says Poland needs to be reminded of its history? Russo-speak , in other words , Russia will take over eastern Poland again like in Stalin / Hitler pact , killing 42,000 polish elite in katyn forest in 1940 by russian troops , Poland needs a new lesson says Putin
Putin also said that russia is a unique civilization and this special military operation will end in 3 days in Kiev.
People forget these things too easily, or they claim those events are fabricated, justified, etc. For example, there is no shortage of people (essentially tankies) who will genuinely argue that the 'Kulaks had it coming'. It's insane....
pootin also forgot to say that moscow was polish
Al Jazeera should hold more balanced view rather the a mouth piece of the West, especially when it is funded by Qatar.
At the second war Poland was betrayed by the European country England and France Usa
this polish fellows represent Brussels more than Warsaw - a bit not clear and fair
Come on guys. Russia ain't capable to conquer 1 region of Ukraine.
Forget about Poland or the rest of NATO.
Dobre! Ale się uśmiałam. Gdyby nie sprzęt wojskowy podarowany Ukrainie przez inne kraje, Ukraina byłaby już dawno przejęta przez Rosję. Gdzie sprzęt, który Ukraina powinna mieć? Po zajęciu Kremla, Ukraina powinnam była kupować mnóstwo sprzętu wojskowego. A teraz wychodzą afery z oligarchami, którzy sprzedawali sprzęt z zachodnich ziem. Brawo!
@@gosiajonda3664 gdyby babcia miala wasy to by byla dziadklem
@@gosiajonda3664 Z tych nerw mylisz Krym z Kremlem
If Belarus 🇧🇾 is losing its sovereignty as you claim, what will Germany Or other countries hosting US military bases and nuclear weapons be?
Belarus signed the union state with Russia. Bottom line: Belarus is one dictator's death away of becoming part of Russia. Now Russia has a history of not knowing where its borders are located. Russia has proved recently it is willing to invade other sovereign countries. When was the last time the US annexed a sovereign country? What point are you trying to make?
What are your thoughts on false equivalency?
Losing Sovereignty is when you allow a neighbouring country to exile a democratically elected leader. The average Belarusian doesn't want war and dislike Lukashenko
Subjects of any empire think they are part of that empire, but in reality they are pawns to the emperor.
yeah, 5,000 Wagner troops with no heavy weapons will destroy all of Poland and NATO forces as well. LOL!!
Only problem I see with Poland getting a lot of its hardware from South Korea is that it's a long distance relationship. Otherwise I think they make a cute couple.
They will have their own factories in Poland for the hardware so the distance is not a big deal
@@jaja3359 Thanks for the clarification!
Maybe because German army factories created so many problems with army parts for Poland? France and Germany didn't agreed for Polish share with creating of a new tank?
I find mrs Liliana very attractive
How come Al Jazeera has become so blatantly partisan? How can bring three persons supporting one side together and call it a debate? Where is Russian view point?
This is no independent journalism!
The ball is right in Poland's court, and whether it wants to play ball or brawl.
Where were the Russian and the belarussian guests? Why only Western polish and German guests? Absolutely not a neutral interview !
badytow sie nie zaprasza
W okopach są.
Po obejrzeniu tego filmu można by pomysleć, że wszyscy w Polsce drżą ze strachu przed inwazją ze strony Rosji i Białorusi. Nonsens. Rząd owszem próbuje wszystkich Polaków zastraszyć jak każdy reżim, i wmawiać że tylko on jest lekarstwem. W rzeczywistości prawdopodobieństwo ataku na Polskę jest niemal zerowe. Rosja nigdy nie zaatakuje kraju NATO, chyba że konkretnie sprowokowana (tak jak atak na Ukrainę był sprowokowany serią wcześniejszych wydarzeń ze strony USA i CIA jak Snowden, Majdan i odsunięcie Janukowycza, zablokowanie Nord Stream2 i nakładanie nieskończonej ilości sankcji). Żeby Rosja zaatakowała Polskę to z terytorium Polski lub krajów NATO musiałyby nastąpić wcześniejszy atak na Rosję. Putin nie jest głupi żeby bić sięz całą Europą.
Have you taken too much strong drinks or some white powder to utter such rubbish and nonsense? You have to definitely put them aside or consult a good therapist.
@@JanKowalski-ej6lh Jak nie masz ćwoku nic sensownego do powiedzenia to po co się odzywasz?
How dare Poland defend itself?
Truth is that Poland not block grain transport via Poland (even help a lot). Poland not alow feed industrial grain in to domestic market.
Poland 🇵🇱 🇵🇱
German murders kill 5 mill prople in Poland during ww 2 and they stolen even golden tooth 😢
German lies. Polish reform of the judiciary system was similar to what works in Germany or in France, where the government appoint judges.
There real reason of withdrawal UE founds from Poland is that Germany looses its influence in Poland. Poles voted for a party that is not controlled by Germany. This is the real source of the problem.
Great Polish People
The arrogance of this German surprised me as a Pole, to be honest. Even though I am not a supporter of the party currently ruling in Poland, with which we have problems, the position presented by the EU and people who think like this expert is counterproductive. Especially telling us Poles what European values are is simply ridiculous. After all, Poland is far from being an authoritarian country like Turkey or Hungary because, due to history, we value freedom and sovereignty more than countries that have not experienced a history such as Poland's. That's why pigeonholing us into such a category only annoys Poles and turns us against the attempts of interventions in our politics even if they are right.
Moreover, if Western Europe wants to rely on the security guaranteed by countries with with they have ideological differences such as Poland, Turkey and the USA, without increasing their own defense budgets, and on the other hand they think that they can tell them what to do without even paying for it, they are stupid. It doesn't work like that anywhere in the world and it never worked. ;)
As for whether Poles trust NATO, I will say this. They have confidence in NATO and its leadership, which is fresh-minded, but within this NATO there is no doubt that there are weak links like Germany, Hungary, other sluggish countries that had good relations with Russia and pro-Russian trolls placed in politics and that is it which, among other things, threatens European values. In turn, the countries that constitute the core of NATO and determine its strength today are the USA, Great Britain, the Scandinavian countries, Poland and Romania and, paradoxically, also Ukraine.
If there is a problem with the import of Ukrainian grain, it is not a problem that evil Poland does not want to allow its food market to be ruined, but it is a problem that Russia attacked Ukraine and the export of this grain is difficult. This grain fed Africa. We will not solve this problem by having Poles eat this grain now, but by providing Ukraine with military planes and long-range missiles so that they can finally effectively end this war. The discussion about the import of grain by the EU is another substitute problem, not to talk about ways to end what is the cause of these problems.
Why nobody asks about pipeline? Germany prepers themselvs to dry the gas pipeline out...
Is time for Poland to take advantage of the country location becoming economic hub between East and WestThis location could blessing.
the migrants should be deported to ukraine as mercenaries, after 1 year of service they might get permission to stay in EU or something
i thought poland had nothing left to send to ukraine? if they do why arent they sending it?
dumbest comment here
I thought people would tire of making stupid comments on the internet but nope, they keep on going!
in first few months of war between Ukraine and Russia, when Germans told to Ukraine's ambassador that its not worth to help Ukraine and he started to cry, Poland sent around 300 tanks and Germans were proposing 5000 helmets. I think Germans were affraid of sending more because of their precious Nord Stream 2 pipeline with blood of Ukrainian children inside. Btw it reminds me of grandfathers of todays Germans who were putting Polish children into gaz rooms to kill them.
@voyageur8208 the only thing Germany cares about is money
@@willc1294 Russia is corrupt.
Like Poland stand on many things. I dont like when they undermine court independence.
EU holds or atleast slows authoritarian slide of Poland and Hungary with internal check and policies, but this is such a shame for such a great country.
The EU should focus on fairness within its own structures, for example it should stick to the rules that the member states have agreed to. Unlawfully changing the rules without the agreement of the member states does not sound like something akin to the rule of law (illigal interference with our internal justice system to support Polish opposition). If the EU/German elites think that they will exclude Poland as a growing military and economic player through false accusations of lack of justice and by supporting Polish political opposition - I assure you that we Poles will not give in.
Poland do not try to undermine court independence. But we recognize that the power of courts can not be absolute. There must be a kind of democratically based control of each branch of the government. That include the courts and it is clearly stipulated by the Article 2 and 4 of Poland's constitution. As of now no such democratic control over the courts is not present in our judicial system. This must be emended.
I❤POLAND💪💪💪💪🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱
No thanx. We have had enough wars.
Unbalanced panel
Free Belarus and Ukraine .
Ostatnio coraz więcej programów jest w Polsce, chwalących Polskę. Jeszcze nie oglądałam zobaczymy co tutaj będę mówić???
It sounds like europe should not be considered sovereign due to hosting us nukes and soldiers. Same concept.
They dont say that ukrainian grain is often of lower quality, not fit for people....
Idiocy for Poland to be scared of a few thousand disarmed mercenaries.
"mercenaries"
They aren't really.
better safe then sorry
@@Cheese_Boi1986 sure is easier for trigger-happy hotheads to provoke an "incident."
that sounds like cope to me @@brownmold
Russia has no chance with the Poles, it would be the same as on September 8, 1610, the Polish troops of Hetman Żółkiewski captured Moscow and occupied it for two years.🎉🎉
Good one
Slawa Ukrainie ❤Szalom
I feel Poland's leading party wants the conflict to escalate a bit. In most countries, national security and wars get elections pushed out. Their opposition is in a tough spot.
Quite the opposite, these border voliation do not work for them in case of popularity.
@@zawiszaczarny7876 PiS still leading polls. but i guess they might slip slightly bellow total majory im sure they can find some nutters to support them. in a coalition.
But it was the opposition in Poland who screamed loudest that Belarusian helicopters that crossed Poland border should have been shot down :)))) You are rather idiot who knows nothing about politics in Poland.
Rather border is strengthened and evryone takes the situation seriously because if an incident happens without a strong response, the opposition in Poland will be scream that the defense minister should be resigned :)))
@@zawiszaczarny7876 no stop provoking a war we don’t want.
we can also just kick you out. if that’s what you prefer 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏻
Eiropean union needs reforms
A very bland, unanimated discussion. Indistinguishable from France 24, the BBC, etc.
Can Poland Rule the Future of Europe??? 🤔🤐🤐🤐
Loooooooooooool
For a long time Poland was a European superpower. Don't forget that Poland is the only one country that successfully fought Russia and kept Moscow.
Poland was a huge country, its eastern border was less than 300 km from Moscow.
Lets have a debate where everyone sings from the same hymn sheet. Not journalism but propaganda.
Poland needs higher taxes😁
They have to spend dozens of billions on new weapons. 🙂
They need much bigger army, air force and fleet😁
No ,we dont need higher taxes, but we should apply taxes to BIG FORREIGN CORPORATIONS ( especially these from GERMANY , RUSSIA ) and USA who are NOT PAYING enough.
@@marciecorda5209 We're paying too much. Do you know the cost of developing new oil and gas fields? How much logistics and industries to produce petrol and engines' oil cost? 😅
The thing about the judiciary in Poland is that the majority of society wants changes, because in Poland the judge is not responsible for anything.
For the sentences where he clearly put an innocent man in prison or because of his sentence, the man lost all his property.
Most of these things are not a mistake, but intentional because someone benefited from it.
eg reprivatization how can a judge take a word that a 120-year-old woman buys or sells real estate (without checking whether she is alive) How many people in the world live at this age?
The judge steals money from the counter in the store, ruling that he was distracted.
Should get a penalty (demotion to a lower rank)
Now, if I were a thief and this judge was trying me, I'd tell him I was distracted.
Poland has created an elite of judges, judges are held accountable by judges (i.e. zero penalties)
This needs to be changed, according to the PIS authorities currently ruling in Poland.
But that's the problem, not how they do it.
We are coming to a situation where reforms need to be carried out, but not in this way.
The EU has ordered the money to be blocked and says it has everything to go back to what it was in the rule of law.
Where judges are a caste, they are unshakeable.
And it is a paradox that the EU defends the caste and allows them everything, while Pis wants a bad change in the judiciary.
So, in my humble opinion, yes, reforms are needed.
But I don't agree with how PiS is doing it, and I don't agree with the EU that makes caste continue to rule in Poland.
Like, government shouldnt have any way how to impact judges. You can change system without taking indirect control over courts, theynjust are at majority power and they can get foothold for years to come even if fail lobby changes as they want.
Similiar situation with israel. You can change judicial system, if you wan to, without grabbing power for yourself. But why shouls you do that, if you can enrich yourself or increase your political power for zealous reforms in future.
@@grumpydinosaur2347 You don't understand that the court won't allow it
@@Paparapatheraper-POL I'm sorry, but you are obviously repeating Polish government's propaganda 1 to 1, and even use the exact same propaganda terms they do (like calling all judges "kasta" - the "caste", no one else does that). A few frindge cases, like some cases of wrong sentences or some judge being cought shoplifting (sic!) are no reason to throw the entire judiciary system under the bus. And the truth is, that: A) all of the reforms enacted so far by the Law & Justice government didn't do anything to improve the functioning of courts, if anything court trials take even longer now than they did a few years ago; and B) reforming judiciary system in order to fix it was never a problem, and EU has nothing against that. The problem is that many of the reforms proposed by Law & Justice aim to make the whole system subservient to politicians and the government, and in the process destroying courts' independence, which is one of the core values not only of the EU, but all democracies in general. Just look at what is happening in Israel right now, they are not in the EU, yet they have massive protests on the streets for the exact same reason, because their government (Netanyahu) is also destroying judiciary independence.
@@Paparapatheraper-POLAn unfulfilled lawyer in the position of the minister of justice is a real problem in Poland
W Polsce po 1945 niestety nigdy nie było dobrego sądownictwa. Najpierw było totalnie podporządkowane komunistycznej władzy, a później właściwie nie zostało zreformowane albo zostało zreformowane tak nieudolnie, że wytworzyła się sytuacja patologiczna. Wszyscy chcą to zmienić poza małą częścią sędziów, którzy sami o sobie mówią, że są nadzwyczjną kastą (nawet przed kamerami). A ponieważ ci ludzie nie czują żadnego poparcia w społeczeństwie, pobiegli do UE. Ona ich ślepo poparła, bo jest to doskonały pretekst, by uderzyć w nielubiany w Berlinie i Brukseli rząd PiSu.
Napewno reformę sądownictwa można przeprowadzić jeszcze lepiej, ale ten rząd jako pierwszy wogle się za to zabrał. Wbrew temu co pokazują zagraniczne media, większość polskiego społeczeństwa w tej sprawie popiera rząd i jest oburzona nadużyciami ze strony UE
Sound quality is too bad to continue listening.
I'm ready to fight for you.
She is pretty not gonna lie
3:27 “….but, from the Taiga to the British Seas….”
Ahh gdyby all jazeera wiedziała jakie tu przekrety i machloje w naszym umęczonym kraju zachodzą...
Polish Ukrainian relations at all time low?? says who? BS
Long live freedom and democracy! Russian zombies will fall.
I must praise video for neutrality and while problems are bring up, they are not exaggerated. With ironically German guy talking a nonsens. Where they "morality" was, when they threaten Polish internal security with Nord Stream?
Currently Poland has huge internal conflict between Liberal and Conservative side. What tend to bleed, but its not actually as bad as people think. Law issue is more due to interpretation of the law, rather then deliberate attempt of authoritarian rule.
As for Russia. There is such saying. Russia has only enemies and the slaves. Polish investments are purely defensive and all threats and accusations or Russia toward Poland, are mostly mental projections of they own Imperial and Colonial intentions.
Russia will be destroyed in this conflict
In your sleep yes
@@tttuu3309 i don’t think so the evil will never win
Together with whole Europe. Mutal destruction.
like his other EU co-politicians, the Polish prime minister is just wants to be popular and hold on to his power.
All politicians what to be popular at some point.
Is there any politician in the world who does not "hold to his power". For example, Mr. Putin has been holding to his power for 24 year now. Is this normal?
@@KrzysiekWawrytko yes .. becoz he is incorruptible byt he western snakes .. he shud be president for life.
Why there is no speaker from Russia, debate would be much more interesting. I don't like this German guy he is seem narrow viewed and doesn't see the bigger picture.
what bigger picture? Bigger picture is that game is whether democracy or dictatorship and Orwell's world dominates the world
What you want hear from russia ? that Ukraine dont exist ? and russia brings freedom by bombing cities for a year and the Wagnerians are heroes because they rape women and children and cut off the penises of prisoners ???
Bigger picture is that China is the enemy of western civilizationa and putin started a war in Ukraine because every democratic state near russia is a threat to the fascist state model that Putin is building and to his corrupt system of power. Putin has no way out because any kind of domocracy would judge his crimes and the fact that he is the biggest thief in russia so he is afraid of democracy like fire
This is lesson for us in Poland- never trust Germans
00:03:20 Schlebiają Nam nazywając FA-50 mianem "combat aircraft".
Jak na razie to zachod nas moze uzywac jako weapon, tak jak to bylo w 39’.
Wielka szkoda że rozmawiacie o Polsce i nie ma tłumaczenia na polski
jest, trzeba włączyć text i tłumaczenie pod ekranem
i think the name belarus is self explanatory. migrants want to leave during war...naturally they want to go west.