Mojo and magic over clair and sym supreme is laughable mojo has 0 utility in comparison to both same with magic in the actual game claire has a 40 percent power drain good damage or insane sustainability depending on what u need she is also suicide friendly and can completely shut down any non debuff immune opponent with her buff immunity in many fights if you are in the poison stance you can make most fights a joke by cycling sp2s and shutting down every and any buff turing it into a meme fight
Colossus with Omega Red synergy is definitely beyond God tier, I seen his heavies crit for over 50K with suicides and armours stacked, plus all his immunities and power gain with Emma Frost is insane. He’s worthy of a promotion I think a lot of the community would agree with that!
Claire is definitely second best mystic in the game. With suicides Claire>Doom without suicides Doom>Claire. Then Symbiote Supreme and Sorcerer Supreme. Offensively Mojo doesn't belong there imo. Hype definitely deserves beyond god tier. Colosus, Sunspot and maybe even AA needs to be in beyond god tier. Science is fine.
@@kit2877 IDK I have them both at 5/65 but with suicides I rarely use Doom. He always take a ton of bleed/poison damage plus you need to use l1s with him so a bunch of recoil damage too (specially for longer fights). So if you wanna use him for 1 fight then yeah he is great with suicides but definitely not for quests or longer fights. The recoil is too painful...he is almost like Void that way.
@@PeterGrayson Doom has better damage and power control than Claire. I'd say buff immunity on sp2 + nullify on medium makes Claire slightly better at nullifing but Doom is pretty good for that too with his staggers and L1. But immunities and sustainability are definitely Claire's strong suit. Suicides make Claire a lot better and makes Doom a lot worse. I remove suicides everytime I use my Doom in act 6/AW.
Moleman & New Black Widow over Elsa Bloodstone, and Hyperion on same tier with AArkus?? BWCV is one of my most used champ to explore act 6, you`re sleeping in a lot of champs my opinion, Mojo is good and fun but not as good as BWCV!
all respect to your opinion lags, but its crazy how many champs i disagree with the placement of (e.g. daredevil OG too high, crossbones and sabretooth too low etc). still all the respect dude. it is your opinion
There's no way sabretooth should be that low, his ramped up damage is really good and his synergies with killmonger and omega red give him better damage and utility. Plus he has an immunity to cold snap. He's definitely at least better than characters in the mighty tier like terrax, nova, daredevil og and doctor strange
Ry Guy that’s a good point I agree he is much better than Terrax, nova and og daredevil and I also forgot he was immune to cold snap he was my first 5 star and really enjoyed playing with him and he brought me through some tough act 4 content. Overall I think he is super underrated and frowned upon thanks for reminding me of that.
Enjoyed your tier list man! Some interesting arguments for differences from seatin tier list. I gotta say though sunspot deserves to be in that beyond god tier! I really think he's better than namor
You are underrating Claire, watch her sp2 damage with hellfire and she is a lot more sustainable champion. It doesn't mean that if we got NF and Aegon,blade will be underrated. I am somewhat happy with that squirrel girl, her sp2 damage is insane.
You have Gwenpool and Daredevil in the same bracket. Gwenpool who can shut down defensive abilities, bleed like crazy (she can one shot Medusa in 6.3.1), do good damage from that armor break, some power lock, and can’t die from specials. Your crazy
For all those people who are giving hate about who should be in god tier and who shouldn’t, leave it. It’s his opinion based on his personal experience. If you have a different opinion it’s fine but stop putting hate and saying it’s annoying on how he puts up his list.
Awesome vid @lagacy . Dropped a like because I wanna see that defensive list! Also, on the new black widow I sent you a vid of her doing map 6 day 5 mini boss IW on line app (kmackis). It’s also on my channel but she’s awesome. I’m know that’s not end game but I have taken her in 6.4 tenacity path and she performed well! Her shocks didn’t have a big issue applying due to tenacity because she applies so many... plus you wanna play tenacity as stun immune so that’s where her insight really shines!! Keep up the great work bro!
Hey Lagacy just wanted to let you know I’ve been loving your videos as of lately, you’ve got really unique content with the war videos and your stats for your season and your battle card you got with magik I think it’s a really cool and fun new take and look at the game. I would love to see those other ideas hopefully this video gets 2,000 likes I definitely think it deserves it
Lagacy, please play around with colossus using omega, Emma, juggernaut, and magneto(or hype/sinister). His damage is off the charts, you can even do LOL with him
In my opinion Sunspot deserves a higher rating, that perfect block is one of the most important things in act 6 content as I can finish fights and even entire paths without taking more than 3% damage. His damage is amazing and while he doesn't suit suicides, his incinerate immunity comes in helpful sometimes. Also, Hyperion is definitely beyond god tier. These are just my thoughts and positive critiques to help the list. It's sad, but also good to see you stepping up to seatins spot and I hope these suggestions help
As someone who has completed all content, colossus for me is the best mutant. I have all the mutant champions that you have in the top 2 tiers, at r5 or r2, except namor. Colossus was the mutant I used most in 6.4. the biohazard tunnel vision in 6.4.1, thermostat......that combination of immunities are so valuable. He's so easy to play , insane damage. I'm talking 27-32 hit WS kills. And the synergy he needs is omega red, who is such a great champ. He doesn't need crappy champs for synergies And domino......can't agree there. I value her less than my colossus, omega, AA, Havok or emma . Domino has next to 0 real utility and there are just too many paths she couldn't be used on. No immunities at all Doesn't control healing Doesn't control power Doesn't counter evade / auto block / miss or unstoppable Doesn't nullify or stagger buffs Doesn't ignore passive damage back from electro/killmonger type abilities No armor break or debuffs that can count as utility No healing No poison or shock or incinerate to counter acid wash or pleasure to burn etc Doesn't counter unique defenders like Havok or korg or aarkus Just a 50% to purify a bleed or a random 15% to stop an opponents abilities...... completely random an unreliable Just my opinion
I enjoyed your overview, list. A suggestion to improve your list is to advise if the champions need to be awaken and their recommended, sig level. Their synergies would be a nice addition as well, if applicable.
TheRadSteve Nope. Power Lock 1/2 means he won't get to that SP3 that unleashes him. Any node such as safeguard that limits his hits to 1% damage hurt him a lot also. There are a few others but I'm working so don't have time to go in depth on them.
Hey Lagacy! I think that Jane Foster deserves to be higher, and it's because of Incursions. With the Lightning Fists upgrade, which allows for light attacks to inflict shock, Foster can basically stun lock most fights! I know that the tier list is in general, but she is an absolute BEAST in Incursions because of that
Like your content bro, but how is Venom not higher on the list? He is an absolute beast, best finisher in the game and his damage is incredible. He is better than almost everyone on your God tier list.
I'm missing 3 champs from beyond God tier list. The rest I have at 565 or 6/1 accept void hes 4/55 oh n omega but I'm taking him up next level up. Great vid lags n thank you for taking time to make this spreadsheet for us 😊👍🏻
I would want to see these monthly like Seatin it doesn’t have to be a 20 minute thing just an update on the new champs and occasionally a couple or changes
I support your channel and your skills and expertise in the game are definitely undisputed also, I’m no expert but I’m pretty sure that offensively AA , Hyperion, and Stark Spidey are Beyond God tier
hey lag can u try playing mole man another way. 1. reach monster mass 15 till u are almost near to sp3 bar. 2.take a block hit and u get into frenzy mode , launch ur sp2 . 3.meanwhile u have that frenzy on ,rech quickly to another sp2. hope so this may help mole man to get optimal damage while rest players think its a trash skill champ. PLEASE REPLY AFTER TESTING IT.
Hey Lag. Thanks for your mcoc vids! Which champs of these need to be awaken to stand their tier? I mean, unawakened void isn't that beyond god tier, right?
I’m a little surprised you didn’t put stealth in beyond god tier, but given that slow seems to be becoming a more common ability, I can see where your coming from. Also, your hype on torch way before it was realized by anybody else will probably end up being your best call of all time lol.
I appreciate you posting this video and taking the time for it for sure. However, I disagree with a bunch of these but especially Magik. She is outdated and does not have ANY immunities. Hyperion and AA should be beyond GT because you can spam to get around a lot of content and Hype has immunity. I feel like Corvus sucks because his crits run out then u are a sitting duck for what feels like forever and it is like you don’t do any damage. I have a 5 AND 6* and hate him. Especially as you progress later in the game into Act 6 and similar content they all have higher health pools, and he will have to be refreshed with his crits multiple times and it will just take longer. Doc Strange has been nerfed down to the ground so I don't know why he is in the Mighty tier. Hela is useless except for synergies, Hood should be higher, Sym Sup should be higher, any champ with 2 or more immunities should be higher, champs that require max sig for usefulness should be lower, don't know why AA is not in the highest, and Iceman in the same category as Winter Soldier?!? Furthermore, I feel like ANY champion who needs or benefits more by having suicides on should not be considered as much because a lot of people don’t run or even like suicides.. If you have to max sig, change masteries or use other useless champs for synergies for ONE champion then they are not as valuable to me. Champs that are great straight out of the box like Warlock are the best, IMO. Some of these I agree with but there is A LOT that I disagree with here. I like Seatin’s tier list better. (no offense)
@@Lagacy btw I just added suicides for my r2 unawakened Corvus and see he is great now but so many other champs suffer from suicides and I don't want to have to switch back and forth
I don't believe gully is beyond personally.. She doesn’t has utilities anywhere near as warlock or ghost.. Gully 99 is a better version of starlord thats all but again specific to fights.. Also Colossus if you're thinking as a champ solo is a God tier if combined with omega or emma definitely beyond with utility & immunity
Hey lags great list, here are some of my suggestions for the lower tier champs: Bishop and sabretooth are mighty or almighty tier, terrax is so much worse than nova, night thrasher is god tier and finally venom and venom the duck are god tiers
Lags honestly this tier isn't as well made as seatins and BTW blade symbiote Supreme Starky Medusa hyperion Sunspot should all be in bgt like this if u agree 😁😁
Came back to watch this again, and I have to say, you do not understand Doc Voodoo or BWCV If you drop spirit venom on an odd number his, you can get as much as 15 stacks which will drop 100,000 health in a few seconds. BWCV, Is poison and bleed immune depending on which curse you apply . I use her in AQ and I can run an entire map with her on any lane and destroy everything in my path. Collosus and Sunspot need to be in BGT. Majik needs to come down. She is not the best game in town anymore. Havok and Archangel are both better than God Teir also. Also, Wasp. She is a beast and you have her ranked way to low. She can heavy her way through the Realm. Her L2 attack does massive damage and she auto applies shock. I have her R4 unawakened and she still crushes most foes. Her heavy also is a good counter to Mordo when he is stunned.
I cannot decide who to rank 5 out of doom or CV. I run full suicides with MD. And love playing them both. I’m leaning towards doom as I feel he’ll help me clear more content where Claire’s more a utility champ... any advice??
Burst damage is the best utility in the game a character that can 1 shot opponents with a special attack doesnt need much utility bc they end fights so fast However if they cant 1 shot the character they will be useless
I’m not sure if I’m really messing with this tier list. Like Ghost rider, Darkhawk, and Dr Voodoo should be god tier. And Mysterio is so underrated and it’s dumb.
Never had a fight with hyperion where I felt the rng screwed me. Plus, his power gain and ability to cycle specials completely kill the stun immune issue.
Don't know if you've tried hyperion in the incursions, the "increased ability accuracy on heavies" buff you can get takes away from the rng of his furies for the most part and he becomes an absolute monster, especially if you combine it with the "increased fury potency" buff.
i really think colossus should be easily beyond god tier , like if you look how the mystic class is arranged then colossus should be in BGT since is basically immune to everything and hit such a truck , Namor needs high sig and so much of investment i feel compared to him , so Colossus needs promotion i feel . And i feel G099 and Stark spidey is a debatable option on who is better or so , and I think in mystic some changes need to be done , although i agree what you have said , Mojo and Magik should be in God Tier i feel , caz compared to Doom they are not that BGT level i feel
I think doc ock should be at least god tier. You were talking about unique abilities like gulk’s face me, and doc ock’s power control is in a similar boat. He’s one of if not the best at controlling power right from the start of the fight. Fighting a 200% power gain/spite hype or doc strange or havok? Doc ock is arguably the best option as he shuts down that power gain as easily as dr doom does. Not saying that he’s on the same level as doom but as far as power control goes, he’s not far behind
Yea first time I’ve been disappointed with a vid from lags and I’ve been subbed for years:/ He says Claire’s regen based on damage is a bad thing? Wtf!? There’s act6 nodes like bane+power shield, or Icarus, etc where literally go from 1% to 100% every sp2. How is that bad when without a damage boost or even the boost from death touch, you get 20-50% regen per sp2. With death touch that’d be a full heal. She literally is the most sustainable champion in the game with suicides while maintaining max damage output doing so. Not like doom who sucks with suicides and can’t cycle properly. Also lags clearly hasn’t damage tested her, shes actually got better Ttk (time to kill) than sym and doesn’t require enemy has buffs or even immunities to do it. She’s not as flashy as a corv or ghost, but she’s been the majority of my act6.4 fights go to choice, with almost no item use at all, as a full time suicide runner. Sym being god tier is the biggest joke, Her buff control is actually better (can always keep immunity up) or nullify them, not reliant on staggers. And as I said her damage is as good as his when compared with suicides on both. (And that’s without using death touch or Immunity maxed sp3’s).
I think like most Colossus , BWCV and hype should be on the Beyond tier . if Hype not being a 6 is the reason Magic , and quake aren’t 6 stars as well just saying lol 😂 good list though keep it up
Sorcerer supreme gang rise up!!!! She is definetly deserving of that beyond god tier ranking she OP as fudge with that power control regen armor break slow buff control she is just... so underrated and ridiculous and it’s nice to see her getting respect
I'm getting ready for an uncollected run, who of these 4 stars would be best to max out? Ghost Archangel (awakened) Doctor Doom (awakened) Corvus Havok Cap IW (awakened, can max sig) Symbiote supreme
How is BWCV matchup restricted? She’s prob got the most utility out of them all. With suicides on she’s the ultimate questing champ, she can do almost every matchup and regen when needed.
Curious why u didn't put SymS/Claire in Beyond god tier, but put HTorch/Void? Both are just as "niche". HT still not close to best option vs non-mystics. Void mainly used vs Regen & some P.Gains, not best option elsewhere. Imo they all belong in god or beyond god tier together, except Void.
Not a bad list but i would recommend newer players to look into whether certain champs on this list need suicides, awakened ability, synergies, MD, etc to make them bgt/gt. Additionally, I have to agree with the rest of the comment section: bwcv and hyperion (and colossus with synergies) belong in bgt. Claire and warlock are arguably the utility king and queen of the game. One last thing, red deadpool higher than sabretooth? Can someone please explain?
Keep giving feedback guys it’ll help with the next edition of my list! I’ve already taken into account some of your suggestions/arguments!
Where is old man Logan?
I think Hyperion is beyond god tier
Proxima is god, Cull, Gwenpool, starlord and Doctor Voodoo. Rocket and Yondu need to go down
Where’s venom?
Lags I love you but cmon. You gotta show Elsa and spider Gwen more love. Too many people sleep on them.
Medusa and hyperion is beyond god tier
Hell ya love my Hyp👌
It's his opinion
Not medusa. She’s awesome but quite outdated
Hyperion is but not medusa
Agreed
This list is kinda more aw based ...but if you look at the game entirely seatin got the best list there
Seatin likes outdated champions, I followed his tier list for a good time and I ended up wasting units using 2017 champs
@@urvenicebitch Not that he likes them more so he just hasn't touched them in forever. if you watch his streams he runs later champs
Kina but some of the champs like aegon are useless in war
Mojo and magic over clair and sym supreme is laughable mojo has 0 utility in comparison to both same with magic in the actual game claire has a 40 percent power drain good damage or insane sustainability depending on what u need she is also suicide friendly and can completely shut down any non debuff immune opponent with her buff immunity in many fights if you are in the poison stance you can make most fights a joke by cycling sp2s and shutting down every and any buff turing it into a meme fight
Personal opinión
I’m sick of the disrespect given to colossus and BWCV😤. How in the world are neither of them Beyond god tier
WidestHardo yeah it’s getting annoying now lmao
Yeah no kidding
Yeah colossus is ridiculous
Can't agree more
Agreed
Colossus with Omega Red synergy is definitely beyond God tier, I seen his heavies crit for over 50K with suicides and armours stacked, plus all his immunities and power gain with Emma Frost is insane. He’s worthy of a promotion I think a lot of the community would agree with that!
I'm glad Aarkus got the recognition he deserves. he makes mice meat out of Nightcrawler as soon as Coldsnap applies.
Anyone with evade counter makes mincemeat of Nightcrawler. He's overrated in my opinion
Great list Lags, can't wait for the defensive list.
Claire is definitely second best mystic in the game. With suicides Claire>Doom without suicides Doom>Claire. Then Symbiote Supreme and Sorcerer Supreme. Offensively Mojo doesn't belong there imo.
Hype definitely deserves beyond god tier.
Colosus, Sunspot and maybe even AA needs to be in beyond god tier.
Science is fine.
That’s cause you sleep on mojo. So does most of the community. This is the only time I’ve seen him get the credit he deserves
Nah doom is better even with suicides this is coming from a clair stand she is far better than magic mojo and sorcerer supreme
Doom in every level is far superior than claire
@@kit2877 IDK I have them both at 5/65 but with suicides I rarely use Doom. He always take a ton of bleed/poison damage plus you need to use l1s with him so a bunch of recoil damage too (specially for longer fights). So if you wanna use him for 1 fight then yeah he is great with suicides but definitely not for quests or longer fights. The recoil is too painful...he is almost like Void that way.
@@PeterGrayson Doom has better damage and power control than Claire. I'd say buff immunity on sp2 + nullify on medium makes Claire slightly better at nullifing but Doom is pretty good for that too with his staggers and L1. But immunities and sustainability are definitely Claire's strong suit. Suicides make Claire a lot better and makes Doom a lot worse. I remove suicides everytime I use my Doom in act 6/AW.
I need a defensive tier list. We haven’t gotten a good one for years
Moleman & New Black Widow over Elsa Bloodstone, and Hyperion on same tier with AArkus?? BWCV is one of my most used champ to explore act 6, you`re sleeping in a lot of champs my opinion, Mojo is good and fun but not as good as BWCV!
I know I can't believe GHulk is at the same tier as Hyperion, Blade, AA, etc. lol
BWCV help me so much for 6.2.2 . Mojo for boss AW Defender
all respect to your opinion lags, but its crazy how many champs i disagree with the placement of (e.g. daredevil OG too high, crossbones and sabretooth too low etc). still all the respect dude. it is your opinion
There's no way sabretooth should be that low, his ramped up damage is really good and his synergies with killmonger and omega red give him better damage and utility. Plus he has an immunity to cold snap. He's definitely at least better than characters in the mighty tier like terrax, nova, daredevil og and doctor strange
I’ll take a look at those! I was more focused on the higher tiers
Ry Guy that’s a good point I agree he is much better than Terrax, nova and og daredevil and I also forgot he was immune to cold snap he was my first 5 star and really enjoyed playing with him and he brought me through some tough act 4 content. Overall I think he is super underrated and frowned upon thanks for reminding me of that.
@@maddixlarocque7638 You had 5* in Act 4? HAd to clear mine with r4 4*
he is my top champ and i use him almost daily. he wrecks people once he ramps up.
@@lordanomandris same some r3 4*s too
Elsa deserves god tier especially in
synergy with tigra, a lot of utiilities , a lot damage with 10 busted debuff
Enjoyed your tier list man! Some interesting arguments for differences from seatin tier list. I gotta say though sunspot deserves to be in that beyond god tier! I really think he's better than namor
You are underrating Claire, watch her sp2 damage with hellfire and she is a lot more sustainable champion.
It doesn't mean that if we got NF and Aegon,blade will be underrated. I am somewhat happy with that squirrel girl, her sp2 damage is insane.
You have Gwenpool and Daredevil in the same bracket. Gwenpool who can shut down defensive abilities, bleed like crazy (she can one shot Medusa in 6.3.1), do good damage from that armor break, some power lock, and can’t die from specials. Your crazy
Elsa Bloodstone is definitely Almighty tier bro!!!
Really ? I just pulled her and haven't test her out yet, but u give me a little hope
@@kristenasomua3668 dude I've ranked 5 her ....she's beyond god tire for me
Luke cage is a almighty god tier
Hulkbuster gonna be in that God tier with Spidey when he gets his update
For all those people who are giving hate about who should be in god tier and who shouldn’t, leave it. It’s his opinion based on his personal experience. If you have a different opinion it’s fine but stop putting hate and saying it’s annoying on how he puts up his list.
Spider Gwen is the most underrated champion in the gaaame. Every youtuber is sleeping on her! Spider Gwen crusade is officially launched.
I have her at 5/65 she is very useful hits hard and auto evades all unblockable specials. Her slow is great enervate is useful.
Awesome vid @lagacy . Dropped a like because I wanna see that defensive list! Also, on the new black widow I sent you a vid of her doing map 6 day 5 mini boss IW on line app (kmackis). It’s also on my channel but she’s awesome. I’m know that’s not end game but I have taken her in 6.4 tenacity path and she performed well! Her shocks didn’t have a big issue applying due to tenacity because she applies so many... plus you wanna play tenacity as stun immune so that’s where her insight really shines!! Keep up the great work bro!
Great work man, I'd like to see it monthly if possible. Thanks for putting this together. Gotta give Claire that promotion though! Haha
Love that someone is showing Sorcerer Supreme the love that she deserves. Have her 6* R3 and she is SO DAMN GOOD for end game content
Did you make the best defenders tier list?
Hey Lagacy just wanted to let you know I’ve been loving your videos as of lately, you’ve got really unique content with the war videos and your stats for your season and your battle card you got with magik I think it’s a really cool and fun new take and look at the game. I would love to see those other ideas hopefully this video gets 2,000 likes I definitely think it deserves it
Thanks for the nice comment buddy!
I like that you're consoling with other people to make your lists. Props.
Lagacy, please play around with colossus using omega, Emma, juggernaut, and magneto(or hype/sinister). His damage is off the charts, you can even do LOL with him
In my opinion Sunspot deserves a higher rating, that perfect block is one of the most important things in act 6 content as I can finish fights and even entire paths without taking more than 3% damage. His damage is amazing and while he doesn't suit suicides, his incinerate immunity comes in helpful sometimes. Also, Hyperion is definitely beyond god tier. These are just my thoughts and positive critiques to help the list. It's sad, but also good to see you stepping up to seatins spot and I hope these suggestions help
As someone who has completed all content, colossus for me is the best mutant. I have all the mutant champions that you have in the top 2 tiers, at r5 or r2, except namor. Colossus was the mutant I used most in 6.4. the biohazard tunnel vision in 6.4.1, thermostat......that combination of immunities are so valuable. He's so easy to play , insane damage. I'm talking 27-32 hit WS kills. And the synergy he needs is omega red, who is such a great champ. He doesn't need crappy champs for synergies
And domino......can't agree there. I value her less than my colossus, omega, AA, Havok or emma . Domino has next to 0 real utility and there are just too many paths she couldn't be used on.
No immunities at all
Doesn't control healing
Doesn't control power
Doesn't counter evade / auto block / miss or unstoppable
Doesn't nullify or stagger buffs
Doesn't ignore passive damage back from electro/killmonger type abilities
No armor break or debuffs that can count as utility
No healing
No poison or shock or incinerate to counter acid wash or pleasure to burn etc
Doesn't counter unique defenders like Havok or korg or aarkus
Just a 50% to purify a bleed or a random 15% to stop an opponents abilities...... completely random an unreliable
Just my opinion
Yes lags, I’ve been waiting for one of these vids after the last one u made!!!!!
I enjoyed your overview, list. A suggestion to improve your list is to advise if the champions need to be awaken and their recommended, sig level. Their synergies would be a nice addition as well, if applicable.
Awesome list bro.Please make a tier list every month
Hyperion is not Beyond God Tier? WAT.
Too many nodes these days that limit his usefulness
buckeyedal no there isn’t lmao the only nodes that limit him is mandator and power struggle lmao
TheRadSteve Nope. Power Lock 1/2 means he won't get to that SP3 that unleashes him. Any node such as safeguard that limits his hits to 1% damage hurt him a lot also. There are a few others but I'm working so don't have time to go in depth on them.
@@buckeyedal have you used him against safeguard? His incinerated are so good for it and he doesn't need a special 3 for the furies and damage
Hey be happy with where she hulk is and maybe once Hyperion is a 6* 👀
Hey Lagacy! I think that Jane Foster deserves to be higher, and it's because of Incursions. With the Lightning Fists upgrade, which allows for light attacks to inflict shock, Foster can basically stun lock most fights! I know that the tier list is in general, but she is an absolute BEAST in Incursions because of that
Thankyou for the tier list! It really helps knowing which champs are worth ranking.
Like your content bro, but how is Venom not higher on the list? He is an absolute beast, best finisher in the game and his damage is incredible. He is better than almost everyone on your God tier list.
I'm missing 3 champs from beyond God tier list. The rest I have at 565 or 6/1 accept void hes 4/55 oh n omega but I'm taking him up next level up. Great vid lags n thank you for taking time to make this spreadsheet for us 😊👍🏻
I would want to see these monthly like Seatin it doesn’t have to be a 20 minute thing just an update on the new champs and occasionally a couple or changes
I support your channel and your skills and expertise in the game are definitely undisputed also, I’m no expert but I’m pretty sure that offensively AA , Hyperion, and Stark Spidey are Beyond God tier
All I can say is that you massively underrated Sabertooth in my opinion.
two tiers too low at least! So many great synergies, and that damage.
Thank you for this Legacy!!! please continue with the defensive tier list
hey lag can u try playing mole man another way.
1. reach monster mass 15 till u are almost near to sp3 bar.
2.take a block hit and u get into frenzy mode , launch ur sp2 .
3.meanwhile u have that frenzy on ,rech quickly to another sp2.
hope so this may help mole man to get optimal damage while rest players think its a trash skill champ.
PLEASE REPLY AFTER TESTING IT.
Hey Lag. Thanks for your mcoc vids! Which champs of these need to be awaken to stand their tier? I mean, unawakened void isn't that beyond god tier, right?
I’m a little surprised you didn’t put stealth in beyond god tier, but given that slow seems to be becoming a more common ability, I can see where your coming from. Also, your hype on torch way before it was realized by anybody else will probably end up being your best call of all time lol.
I appreciate you posting this video and taking the time for it for sure. However, I disagree with a bunch of these but especially Magik. She is outdated and does not have ANY immunities. Hyperion and AA should be beyond GT because you can spam to get around a lot of content and Hype has immunity. I feel like Corvus sucks because his crits run out then u are a sitting duck for what feels like forever and it is like you don’t do any damage. I have a 5 AND 6* and hate him. Especially as you progress later in the game into Act 6 and similar content they all have higher health pools, and he will have to be refreshed with his crits multiple times and it will just take longer. Doc Strange has been nerfed down to the ground so I don't know why he is in the Mighty tier. Hela is useless except for synergies, Hood should be higher, Sym Sup should be higher, any champ with 2 or more immunities should be higher, champs that require max sig for usefulness should be lower, don't know why AA is not in the highest, and Iceman in the same category as Winter Soldier?!? Furthermore, I feel like ANY champion who needs or benefits more by having suicides on should not be considered as much because a lot of people don’t run or even like suicides.. If you have to max sig, change masteries or use other useless champs for synergies for ONE champion then they are not as valuable to me. Champs that are great straight out of the box like Warlock are the best, IMO. Some of these I agree with but there is A LOT that I disagree with here. I like Seatin’s tier list better. (no offense)
max sig and suicides is what makes some champions so good lol so thats a huge factor for some choices.
@@Lagacy that is the Kabam trick. Only a few champs are great out of the box.
@@Lagacy btw I just added suicides for my r2 unawakened Corvus and see he is great now but so many other champs suffer from suicides and I don't want to have to switch back and forth
Good job bro. Please keep posting monthly tier list for MCOC. Seatin appears to be retired in this game and focusing on that other game of him.
I don't believe gully is beyond personally.. She doesn’t has utilities anywhere near as warlock or ghost.. Gully 99 is a better version of starlord thats all but again specific to fights.. Also Colossus if you're thinking as a champ solo is a God tier if combined with omega or emma definitely beyond with utility & immunity
Hey lags great list, here are some of my suggestions for the lower tier champs:
Bishop and sabretooth are mighty or almighty tier, terrax is so much worse than nova, night thrasher is god tier and finally venom and venom the duck are god tiers
nice content as always bro 👍🏼
Quake finally in SSS tier hooray!!! Great video
Quake op
Quake > Ghost????
@@gjthelegend6597 Only if you are extremely good with Quake
Where is tigra ranked on this list??
Lags honestly this tier isn't as well made as seatins and BTW blade symbiote Supreme Starky Medusa hyperion Sunspot should all be in bgt like this if u agree 😁😁
Agreed
agreed except for blade
Stealth , Colossus and Hyperion definitely deserve that beyong god teir.
The mechanic that will dominate this year are the distance champs. Nova was the first. Wait for his synergies. He might zoom up to the top spot.
Came back to watch this again, and I have to say, you do not understand Doc Voodoo or BWCV
If you drop spirit venom on an odd number his, you can get as much as 15 stacks which will drop 100,000 health in a few seconds.
BWCV, Is poison and bleed immune depending on which curse you apply . I use her in AQ and I can run an entire map with her on any lane and destroy everything in my path.
Collosus and Sunspot need to be in BGT. Majik needs to come down. She is not the best game in town anymore.
Havok and Archangel are both better than God Teir also.
Also, Wasp. She is a beast and you have her ranked way to low. She can heavy her way through the Realm. Her L2 attack does massive damage and she auto applies shock. I have her R4 unawakened and she still crushes most foes. Her heavy also is a good counter to Mordo when he is stunned.
I cannot decide who to rank 5 out of doom or CV. I run full suicides with MD. And love playing them both. I’m leaning towards doom as I feel he’ll help me clear more content where Claire’s more a utility champ... any advice??
I love Doom in this game, but I've never tried him and CV with suicides.
Human torch is restricted to matches (mystic and 1 pump chump prefight ability). Change my mind.
go look at how many fights hes good for in abyss dawg... sinister, darkhawk, imiw etc
2/3 of those are better without prefight too ;)
IMIW is very underrated, especially with the Stealth Spidey synergy. Seatin made a video with him a while back
you ur saying sabretooth, night thrasher, and gwenpool are all worse than moleman?
Ikr especially gwenpool
In my opinion sym sup and Claire should be bygt and sorcerer supreme should be god tier
Memer McMemes 100% agree
Iceman, Elsa, Claire, Hyp and Medusa should all go up one tier in my opinion but I like this tier list
How is Sentinel not God tier? They cover so much content in Variants and has decent damage and immunities
Burst damage is the best utility in the game a character that can 1 shot opponents with a special attack doesnt need much utility bc they end fights so fast
However if they cant 1 shot the character they will be useless
I’m not sure if I’m really messing with this tier list. Like Ghost rider, Darkhawk, and Dr Voodoo should be god tier. And Mysterio is so underrated and it’s dumb.
Never had a fight with hyperion where I felt the rng screwed me. Plus, his power gain and ability to cycle specials completely kill the stun immune issue.
Don't know if you've tried hyperion in the incursions, the "increased ability accuracy on heavies" buff you can get takes away from the rng of his furies for the most part and he becomes an absolute monster, especially if you combine it with the "increased fury potency" buff.
Ace William buff cornucopia with his is RIDICULOUSLY fun 😂
Lags, give Black bolt a run (in a long fight) with this synergy team: Fury, Karnak, Medusa and Hit monkey. Insane ramp up damage.
Not available as six star shouldn't be a factor when u decide the tier list
Overall awesome stuff
i really think colossus should be easily beyond god tier , like if you look how the mystic class is arranged then colossus should be in BGT since is basically immune to everything and hit such a truck , Namor needs high sig and so much of investment i feel compared to him , so Colossus needs promotion i feel .
And i feel G099 and Stark spidey is a debatable option on who is better or so , and I think in mystic some changes need to be done , although i agree what you have said , Mojo and Magik should be in God Tier i feel , caz compared to Doom they are not that BGT level i feel
I think doc ock should be at least god tier. You were talking about unique abilities like gulk’s face me, and doc ock’s power control is in a similar boat. He’s one of if not the best at controlling power right from the start of the fight. Fighting a 200% power gain/spite hype or doc strange or havok? Doc ock is arguably the best option as he shuts down that power gain as easily as dr doom does. Not saying that he’s on the same level as doom but as far as power control goes, he’s not far behind
Hey Lags do you know why there's no 6 star Hyperion and other champs?
Not sure
what tapped cute is saying diablo is better than mordo??????
You’re underrating Claire man. She’s a beast.
Yea first time I’ve been disappointed with a vid from lags and I’ve been subbed for years:/
He says Claire’s regen based on damage is a bad thing? Wtf!? There’s act6 nodes like bane+power shield, or Icarus, etc where literally go from 1% to 100% every sp2. How is that bad when without a damage boost or even the boost from death touch, you get 20-50% regen per sp2. With death touch that’d be a full heal. She literally is the most sustainable champion in the game with suicides while maintaining max damage output doing so. Not like doom who sucks with suicides and can’t cycle properly. Also lags clearly hasn’t damage tested her, shes actually got better Ttk (time to kill) than sym and doesn’t require enemy has buffs or even immunities to do it.
She’s not as flashy as a corv or ghost, but she’s been the majority of my act6.4 fights go to choice, with almost no item use at all, as a full time suicide runner.
Sym being god tier is the biggest joke,
Her buff control is actually better (can always keep immunity up) or nullify them, not reliant on staggers. And as I said her damage is as good as his when compared with suicides on both. (And that’s without using death touch or Immunity maxed sp3’s).
Havoc, AA, stealth spidey, stark spidey, sym supreme, sunspot and hype belong in beyond god tier, same with doc ock
I feel like venom the duck should be promoted to god tier. I may be wrong but I just feel like his damage output with the toxic armor is amazing
How morning star is a God tier champion ?
I used morning star . She is giving very less damage to enemies .
Placed Ghulk because "he's the only one thay can do what he does" but puts Gwenpool next to daredevil SMH #immortal #gwening
Archangel is beyond god for sure
So many you tubers ride other you tubers and don’t give Colossus the love he deserves..Darkhawk as well ..
Why doctor voodoo is there??
I think like most Colossus , BWCV and hype should be on the Beyond tier . if Hype not being a 6 is the reason Magic , and quake aren’t 6 stars as well just saying lol 😂 good list though keep it up
Sorcerer supreme gang rise up!!!! She is definetly deserving of that beyond god tier ranking she OP as fudge with that power control regen armor break slow buff control she is just... so underrated and ridiculous and it’s nice to see her getting respect
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I'm getting ready for an uncollected run, who of these 4 stars would be best to max out?
Ghost
Archangel (awakened)
Doctor Doom (awakened)
Corvus
Havok
Cap IW (awakened, can max sig)
Symbiote supreme
Doom cap iw Corvus
They’re all super good...but I feel like I would go for Corvus
Doom, cap iw, ghost
Munash is beyond god tier using quake. Wondering if u were thinking of him when u mentioned AW vids and her. He has some great aw vids quaking.
Stealth spidey blade clair voyant symbiont supreme medusa hyperion archangel dont understand why they not beyond
Should I Rank 5, 5* dupe colossus or rank 2 duep 6* CAIW for 6.3 completion. Who is more useful in long run?
Longshot’s damage combined with a fate seal deserves beyond god tier.
How is BWCV matchup restricted? She’s prob got the most utility out of them all. With suicides on she’s the ultimate questing champ, she can do almost every matchup and regen when needed.
Question? Where is Red Hulk on this list? Red hulk is OP Offensive. Controls the fight so much 👍
BWCV is incredible. I personally like playing her over Doom, especially since i run suicides
If you are putting together a defensive tier list include nodes buff suggestions to each character
Scarlet Witch as a 6* = Beyond God Tier
Great list, I'd switch Elsa for black widow...
No Tigra?
Curious why u didn't put SymS/Claire in Beyond god tier, but put HTorch/Void? Both are just as "niche". HT still not close to best option vs non-mystics. Void mainly used vs Regen & some P.Gains, not best option elsewhere. Imo they all belong in god or beyond god tier together, except Void.
Squirrel girl and aarkus god teir ?
Mordo must be at least in Great or Mighty tear. You should revisit that champion.
When you doing the defensive list bro? Could definitely do with some help in prep for next AW 👍
Not a bad list but i would recommend newer players to look into whether certain champs on this list need suicides, awakened ability, synergies, MD, etc to make them bgt/gt.
Additionally, I have to agree with the rest of the comment section: bwcv and hyperion (and colossus with synergies) belong in bgt. Claire and warlock are arguably the utility king and queen of the game.
One last thing, red deadpool higher than sabretooth? Can someone please explain?