Very privileged to acquire this with such smooth transactions from the company. You've done very well as a spokesman for SA&V. Happy to review further Creations when available. Cheers Felix.
Felix - I am fielding some questions and concerns about 'sheath rattle'. I doesn't concern me very much but is this something SAK/V is considering addressing?
That was my thought initially until I handled it. A very functional blade for what it was meant to do. But Mors Kochanski and OG Bushcrafters carried similar simple knives like a Mora and not much different in many ways. It's all what you know and how you are proficient with any tool including knives of this design.
@@JEFFALLENOFFTHEGRIDIRON True but the price tag on the venture is a bit too rich for my blood -- $100 CAD. I just can't justify that when I can get a Swedish made Mora in stainless steel for under $20.
Hi Jeff, please forgive me for what I’m initially about to say. I saw Felix Immler’s short video about the knife this evening, he had a lot of design input, and wanted more information. Your video was first in my search, I’m sorry, I prejudged what I thought your video was going to be like. From an English point of view, so many American bushcraft channels see themselves as TV anchors of their own networks and are excruciating to watch. But, yours, it’s really good Jeff, everything I wanted to know, well explained and clearly shown. I apologise for my bigotry and thank you for your video. Subscribed. Andy.
Not saying 80s, but 90s or 2000s, but nice try. Did not expected it, really nice knife but 20 years ago. Buy full carbon Mora basic, give it some ceramic sharpener rod and magnesium ferro rod, you have good knife too.
I would have liked to see the shapeners integrated on the sheath itself but unique idea for having this style of sharpener in the field. A novel concept that I haven't seen before.
With the various slots on the hardcase, perhaps two could have been angled with integrated stones. The frequency of sharpening not often and stones would be on the sheath permanently without the kit.
2:51 Ambidextrous. In nearly all the comments I've read hardly anyone actually mentions this. I wonder if left-handers don't do bushcraft? I agree with you that it's actually a good attribute to have. 3:50 Some commenters claim that the knife rattles in the case, but yours did not and several others neither. My suspicious mind nudges me that maybe they did not click it in properly? Just asking. 6:oo You mention that one can exchange the 2cm bit for any other size - I did not see that mentioned anywhere. For me it would be important, as I can't see myself ever wanting to make a 20mm hole. It's far to big. I would rather prefer a 10 or 12mm bit, as those sizes would be loads more useful. Why did you choose the 2cm bit, if I may ask? Please be sure to let us know how you find the knife for bushcrafting tasks once you've played with it a bit! Cheers mate!
Yes, upon further review, the ambidextrous design lends itself to a little play but solid retention. Also, any hex bit including drills would fit. It comes with this larger bit for tables, chairs, ladder making I presume. It looks deceptively like a kitchen knife but solid and weighty with Victorinox attention to detail in terms of quality and precision.
@@JEFFALLENOFFTHEGRIDIRON Actually, the shape of the knife blade is very reminiscent of their smaller SAKs, don't you think? Just upscaled. So they know that shape works! 3,4mm is quite thick for that blade and suits the flat grind.
The click in and then rattle a LOT, so if you have seen some which do not, then the situation would be worse because it mean a production quality flaw on many of them, not just a few, for me its a showstopper (true bushcrafting and animal observation, which means true Pro and not like many here who only caress their knives ...). I have over 160 knives in my collection, several of them for bushcrafting, not a single one rattles like this in its carrying sheat, none ... oh and many have better materials and were less expensive. Ive got many SAKs and other Vic products but this one is fails in terms of price, rattle and carrying concept (to large when adding all up for what it contains) the knife itself is good, everything else is cheap and not well designed for real Pros, Felix Immler should have look at the rest too and not only the knife ...
@@Careoran It puzzles me why it has a rattle. It seems to have guiding slits which should hold it stable. But with standard field movements it is not a game changer or animal alert signal imo.
I few videos now surfacing on youtube about common methods to reduce rattling with knives in general. I don't disagree with this oversight however accept it and will likely tweak it to make it uniquely my own, similarly to those who modify their cases with ranger bands, paracord, etc.
Sorry Fwlix to comment on this right now. The sheet is basically not hetting nearly close to Swiss quality. The knive is and you can hear it in your video, movong around in the sheet badly. Also this "dangler" has an O-ring and if Ou pull itnober the sharp wnd of the knive a few times, it will break. Also the knive has no locking mechanism like when you wear it in the pro sheet. I say that's nit acceptable at all. All though Felix told me already Victorinox is working on some approvements, I don't beliebe it's coming soon. I think of making a custom Kidex sheet which can attach all those gimmicks like pen, firestone abd tweezers.
All good comments. Time will tell if Victorinox will address this. Personally, I am happy with it and not something that I am concerned about at the moment.
You can hear it rattling because it is being shaken. In a plastic sheath. No surprises there. Moras rattle if you shake them, too. Why would you pull the O ring over the sharp end of the knife?
I didn't mention a price as subject to change based on location and shipping. Accurate lists on Victorinox website with necessary conversion to where you are located.
Thanks. I just watched the video and I would never use any knife in this manner. Basically a destruction test which utililizes the knife in a very inappropriate and juvenile way. Hammer and tip prying, excessive batoning, etc. are not necessary in my bushcraft skillset. I would question your consideration for purchasing this style of knife and your skillset if that's what you hope to use your knife for. Destruction tests like this one make me laugh and often prove nothing to field experts.
@@JEFFALLENOFFTHEGRIDIRON Thanks for your input. I have this knife on my list to possibly purchase and I was already wondering about the tip stability because one of the designers, Felix Immler, said something about that in his video on the knife. I don't have a lot of money to spend on knives so I just don't wanna make a bad choice! I guess the important thing is to know the limitations and not view it as a survival knife. I enjoyed your video.
FF - Regardless of what knife you chose, it won't be the last one. This is guaranteed. If budget is of concern, you can't go wrong with the best Mora or Condor you can afford (these are but two companies I consider good value for starter knives eg. Kansbol and Bushlore are two popular knives but both desinged to do very different tasks well. There are many versions that may suit your needs to continue to invest in research. But buying a knife is like buying a hammer (or other tool); they may do some things great but not all. As the knife is new to me, I am excited to put it through its paces, none of which are hammering the tip, prying, heavy batoning, etc. I feel confident in my skills at this point that I know the knife doesn't make the bushcrafter or survivalist and it's who is holding it that really matters. Focus on your skills with a knife that fits your budget, and grow from there. This is certainly a great choice if you are looking for all the things this one provides, however only my current purchase, after making, using, owning too many to count.
Just watched that myself. Funnily enough it's a Swiss guy. He also broke an ESEE and a Joker Nomad, the only 3 knives he ''tested'' on his channel. He took a lot of flak in the comments and rightly so.
This is one of the best Kitchen knives Victorinox has ever made, but I won't be buying it as I already own 5 of their kitchen knives and I own a 111mm Outrider, a 130mm Ranger Grip 79, several 111mm Foresters & Rucksacks plus 111mm Picnickers / Nomads. Kitchen knives should not pose as outdoor knives, their place is in the Kitchen! "Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock and now the Victorinox Venture! Kitchen Knife"
Lol. That fluctuates quite a bit based on location and shipping. Victorinox website can walk though purchase and then cancel order based on final tally.
As with many 'new' tools and innovations, they are not always a necessity for the common folk but provide additional options for exploring the many possibilities that survival skills and bushcraft conjures up. Bow drill divets and ferro rods can often be redundant to one's basic kit however each one drives a unique skill set.
@@carlsberg-gs6rl Bics work for me too but building and staring a fire with a bow drill with limited tools in pissing rain is a skill I'm proud to have and teach.
tell that to the caveman 😂. joking aside i agree that the divit is basically a gimmick. of the many fire starting methods, bow drill probably is the last one.
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Thanks a lot for this video!!!
Very privileged to acquire this with such smooth transactions from the company. You've done very well as a spokesman for SA&V. Happy to review further Creations when available. Cheers Felix.
Felix - I am fielding some questions and concerns about 'sheath rattle'. I doesn't concern me very much but is this something SAK/V is considering addressing?
Nice kitchen knife :)
That was my thought initially until I handled it. A very functional blade for what it was meant to do. But Mors Kochanski and OG Bushcrafters carried similar simple knives like a Mora and not much different in many ways. It's all what you know and how you are proficient with any tool including knives of this design.
@@JEFFALLENOFFTHEGRIDIRON True but the price tag on the venture is a bit too rich for my blood -- $100 CAD. I just can't justify that when I can get a Swedish made Mora in stainless steel for under $20.
Hi Jeff, please forgive me for what I’m initially about to say. I saw Felix Immler’s short video about the knife this evening, he had a lot of design input, and wanted more information. Your video was first in my search, I’m sorry, I prejudged what I thought your video was going to be like. From an English point of view, so many American bushcraft channels see themselves as TV anchors of their own networks and are excruciating to watch. But, yours, it’s really good Jeff, everything I wanted to know, well explained and clearly shown. I apologise for my bigotry and thank you for your video. Subscribed. Andy.
No worries. I share content as honest reviews and supports my interests. Thanks for checking out my channel. Enjoy your outdoors!!
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Sorry you cut your leg :)
@@1967AJB It was a good lesson. No retention tests over your lap. Lol
Have you watched a Welshman explain a Tarp set up??? LOL...holy moses!!!! cheers
It looks like a lot of thought was put into the knife and sheath as a package, with multiple uses and carry options.
Take note Fallkniven!
Wow! The 80s survival knives are on their way back. Good video bud 👍👍👍
I am relatively new to SAK survival knives but glad to see Victorinox make this full tang knife. Great tandem to my Ranger Grip 58 Hunter.
@@JEFFALLENOFFTHEGRIDIRON I suspect they were referring to those crappy "survival knives" with hollow handles full of shit kit.
Not saying 80s, but 90s or 2000s, but nice try. Did not expected it, really nice knife but 20 years ago. Buy full carbon Mora basic, give it some ceramic sharpener rod and magnesium ferro rod, you have good knife too.
@@LG-cz6ls Yeah, they used to be called Rambo knives. He sold a lot of crappy knives.
@@simonh6371 The swine!
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Good video. I think that i need a new knive for me. 😄
Beautiful intro
being in california i have no need for a bow drill divot and a drill bit because of our strict fire laws but....... i want it....
Good vid ta. Do you think the pro kit is a bit elaborate with the sharpeners in the pouch?? Really like the knife tho.
I would have liked to see the shapeners integrated on the sheath itself but unique idea for having this style of sharpener in the field. A novel concept that I haven't seen before.
With the various slots on the hardcase, perhaps two could have been angled with integrated stones. The frequency of sharpening not often and stones would be on the sheath permanently without the kit.
Thanks for the response
WOW! Just think what McGyver could do with a knife like this....🙂
2:51 Ambidextrous. In nearly all the comments I've read hardly anyone actually mentions this. I wonder if left-handers don't do bushcraft? I agree with you that it's actually a good attribute to have.
3:50 Some commenters claim that the knife rattles in the case, but yours did not and several others neither. My suspicious mind nudges me that maybe they did not click it in properly? Just asking.
6:oo You mention that one can exchange the 2cm bit for any other size - I did not see that mentioned anywhere. For me it would be important, as I can't see myself ever wanting to make a 20mm hole. It's far to big. I would rather prefer a 10 or 12mm bit, as those sizes would be loads more useful. Why did you choose the 2cm bit, if I may ask?
Please be sure to let us know how you find the knife for bushcrafting tasks once you've played with it a bit!
Cheers mate!
Yes, upon further review, the ambidextrous design lends itself to a little play but solid retention. Also, any hex bit including drills would fit. It comes with this larger bit for tables, chairs, ladder making I presume. It looks deceptively like a kitchen knife but solid and weighty with Victorinox attention to detail in terms of quality and precision.
@@JEFFALLENOFFTHEGRIDIRON Actually, the shape of the knife blade is very reminiscent of their smaller SAKs, don't you think? Just upscaled. So they know that shape works!
3,4mm is quite thick for that blade and suits the flat grind.
The click in and then rattle a LOT, so if you have seen some which do not, then the situation would be worse because it mean a production quality flaw on many of them, not just a few, for me its a showstopper (true bushcrafting and animal observation, which means true Pro and not like many here who only caress their knives ...). I have over 160 knives in my collection, several of them for bushcrafting, not a single one rattles like this in its carrying sheat, none ... oh and many have better materials and were less expensive. Ive got many SAKs and other Vic products but this one is fails in terms of price, rattle and carrying concept (to large when adding all up for what it contains) the knife itself is good, everything else is cheap and not well designed for real Pros, Felix Immler should have look at the rest too and not only the knife ...
@@Careoran It puzzles me why it has a rattle. It seems to have guiding slits which should hold it stable. But with standard field movements it is not a game changer or animal alert signal imo.
I few videos now surfacing on youtube about common methods to reduce rattling with knives in general. I don't disagree with this oversight however accept it and will likely tweak it to make it uniquely my own, similarly to those who modify their cases with ranger bands, paracord, etc.
Sorry Fwlix to comment on this right now. The sheet is basically not hetting nearly close to Swiss quality. The knive is and you can hear it in your video, movong around in the sheet badly. Also this "dangler" has an O-ring and if Ou pull itnober the sharp wnd of the knive a few times, it will break. Also the knive has no locking mechanism like when you wear it in the pro sheet. I say that's nit acceptable at all. All though Felix told me already Victorinox is working on some approvements, I don't beliebe it's coming soon. I think of making a custom Kidex sheet which can attach all those gimmicks like pen, firestone abd tweezers.
All good comments. Time will tell if Victorinox will address this. Personally, I am happy with it and not something that I am concerned about at the moment.
You can hear it rattling because it is being shaken. In a plastic sheath. No surprises there. Moras rattle if you shake them, too.
Why would you pull the O ring over the sharp end of the knife?
Check out my latest fix for pennies. Not ideal but more than adequate.
Did you mention the price or did I just miss it?
I didn't mention a price as subject to change based on location and shipping. Accurate lists on Victorinox website with necessary conversion to where you are located.
just say what you paid @@JEFFALLENOFFTHEGRIDIRON
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Buen video, saludos desde el canal "Sólo tallas..y algunas cosillas más"
meins hat nicht die Grube im Griff für Feuer. :-(
Das hat nur das Venture Pro
Remember the 80's when you could sell anything if it said NINJA on it?
FF to the 2020's...
People will buy anything labeled BUSHCRAFT!
Any idea when these bastards will be available again??
I would reply to one of Felix Immler's videos. I have no idea but he might. Good luck.
Just watched a video on a channel called Ost Outdoor Survival and this knife broke. Be careful with the tip!
Thanks. I just watched the video and I would never use any knife in this manner. Basically a destruction test which utililizes the knife in a very inappropriate and juvenile way. Hammer and tip prying, excessive batoning, etc. are not necessary in my bushcraft skillset. I would question your consideration for purchasing this style of knife and your skillset if that's what you hope to use your knife for. Destruction tests like this one make me laugh and often prove nothing to field experts.
@@JEFFALLENOFFTHEGRIDIRON Thanks for your input. I have this knife on my list to possibly purchase and I was already wondering about the tip stability because one of the designers, Felix Immler, said something about that in his video on the knife. I don't have a lot of money to spend on knives so I just don't wanna make a bad choice! I guess the important thing is to know the limitations and not view it as a survival knife. I enjoyed your video.
FF - Regardless of what knife you chose, it won't be the last one. This is guaranteed. If budget is of concern, you can't go wrong with the best Mora or Condor you can afford (these are but two companies I consider good value for starter knives eg. Kansbol and Bushlore are two popular knives but both desinged to do very different tasks well. There are many versions that may suit your needs to continue to invest in research. But buying a knife is like buying a hammer (or other tool); they may do some things great but not all. As the knife is new to me, I am excited to put it through its paces, none of which are hammering the tip, prying, heavy batoning, etc. I feel confident in my skills at this point that I know the knife doesn't make the bushcrafter or survivalist and it's who is holding it that really matters. Focus on your skills with a knife that fits your budget, and grow from there. This is certainly a great choice if you are looking for all the things this one provides, however only my current purchase, after making, using, owning too many to count.
@@JEFFALLENOFFTHEGRIDIRON Joker of Spain are pretty good value for money knives too.
Just watched that myself. Funnily enough it's a Swiss guy. He also broke an ESEE and a Joker Nomad, the only 3 knives he ''tested'' on his channel. He took a lot of flak in the comments and rightly so.
This is one of the best Kitchen knives Victorinox has ever made, but I won't be buying it as I already own 5 of their kitchen knives and I own a 111mm Outrider, a 130mm Ranger Grip 79, several 111mm Foresters & Rucksacks plus 111mm Picnickers / Nomads. Kitchen knives should not pose as outdoor knives, their place is in the Kitchen! "Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock and now the Victorinox Venture! Kitchen Knife"
You FORGOT, or OMITTED to MENTION , the most CRITICAL peace of INFORMATION ....""" PRICE""" .......
Lol. That fluctuates quite a bit based on location and shipping. Victorinox website can walk though purchase and then cancel order based on final tally.
dodge the question you will@@JEFFALLENOFFTHEGRIDIRON
Ferrorods. Iam 46 years old and i have never needed one ...
As with many 'new' tools and innovations, they are not always a necessity for the common folk but provide additional options for exploring the many possibilities that survival skills and bushcraft conjures up. Bow drill divets and ferro rods can often be redundant to one's basic kit however each one drives a unique skill set.
Bics have seriously never failed me.
@@carlsberg-gs6rl Bics work for me too but building and staring a fire with a bow drill with limited tools in pissing rain is a skill I'm proud to have and teach.
It doesn't look as good as the bushcraft knives that Victorinox had made in Spain..
Bow drill divits are as useless as corkscrew,bottle openers.....folks. Buy lighters.
tell that to the caveman 😂. joking aside i agree that the divit is basically a gimmick. of the many fire starting methods, bow drill probably is the last one.