Out at the Plate overturned by Replay Baldelli Ejected
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- Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024
- In a Collision Rule review, an out call by Marty Foster was overturned and as a result, Twins Manager Rocco Baldelli was ejected for arguing the replay overturn.
From the MLBUM:
64. CATCHER POSITIONING ON POTENTIAL PLAYS AT HOME PLATE
Rule 6.01(i)(2) Comment:
In determining situations with a potential play at home plate, it is important to observe the catcher’s positioning when he sets up to receive a throw. If a catcher sets up entirely in front of the plate (i.e., with his left foot on the fair side of the third base foul line), the catcher will not be found to have violated the Rule if he maintains that position without possession of the ball. Conversely, a catcher that sets up in foul territory or straddles/stands behind home plate (with his left foot on the line or in foul territory) while not in possession of the ball is at
jeopardy for a violation to be called if it is determined that he hindered or impeded a sliding runner. A catcher without possession also may not set up with his left leg extending over the third base foul line, or otherwise lean his body over the foul
line, in order to block the pathway of the runner.
This play flipped the whole season for the Twins.
i think this was one of the last games for both buxton and polanco too. it really was the end.
If you couldn’t hear that he said “Fuck off” to the fans
The game that finished the 2022 Twins
"You have to be in position to catch the throw..." but that position can't block the runner. You CAN block the path AFTER having control of the ball, but not before then.
You can block before you have the ball if you are moving in the direction to field the ball, which Sanchez did. This was a missed call.
@@jacobwerman1008 And that is a HUGELY subjective call. The replay got it right. He blocked the runners path.
@@tvideo1189you clearly don’t know ball. Go watch bowling.
Umpire’s challenge should be safe, because the catcher can’t block the plate!
@@jacobwerman1008 I don't think you can call this a "missed call", because the on-field officials called him out. it was the video review officials that called the runner safe and overturned the call. Therefore, its more like a blown call.
The ball was in the glove before the catcher's knee touched the ground, and before the runner contacted the catcher. By that definition the catcher did receive the ball correctly and did drop his knee correctly. Before is before, as with a play at first base it does matter how close it is. Only that the ball arrives in the glove before the runner touches the plate. For whatever reason, the ball arriving before the knee touched the field, and before the runner arrived wasn't enough.
He chose to slide inside. He had a path outside. The catcher was in allowable position to catch the ball. Should not have been overturned. Baseball has an umpire problem.
Wasn't the umpires it was new York
The catcher is blocking the plate so therefore the runner is safe
@@minaeldiwany3215 He didn’t block it
Absolute trash call. I have lost my faith in umpiring. I did enjoy Rocco telling the Jays fans to F off at the 4:38 mark however. LOL
I liked that two. Most classless baseball fans in the league. Worst than the Yankees
I actually think he's directing that at the replay booth.
Pretty sure that was to the replay booth
Umpire on the field called him out. So what’s the problem with the ‘umping’?
@@barry6290 ikr
This killed the Twins season
I guess as the rule defines the catcher impeded the runner's path so my opinion is that the rule sucks.
It's to protect the catchers. There is no reason why a catcher couldn't just stand in front of the plate if this rule didn't exist, so there would be no logical reason to disallow the runner from smashing into catchers like a runaway train. It is what it is, ig.
The catcher was blocking the plate in which he did not the runner a lane to touch the plate so therefore the runner is safe.
There was a good half of plate available to slide on the outside. This should not have been an out, this ruins baseball.
The runner was out
He was not blocking the plate
It was a bad call
@@krasnoff91 he was blocking the plate
Rocco doing his best Earl Weaver. ✌️❤️⚾
This is getting so bad they should get rid of the tag at home plate all together and install a buzzer on home plate and if the runner gets there before the ball the buzzer goes off and the run scores and no one gets hurt, Yay, sounds like fun.
If knowing the rules of the game the announcers are paid to comment on isn't part of the job description, what is?
Manfred is a joke
New York doesn’t even know how to go off the rules 😂.
Per MLB rule glossary: "The catcher is not permitted to block the runner's path to the plate unless he is in possession of the ball, though blocking the path of the runner in a legitimate attempt to receive a throw is not considered a violation
Wrong as the catcher you have to give the runner a lane to touch the plate
@@minaeldiwany3215 you really calling the MLB rule book wrong. Haha. What an idiot
@@minaeldiwany3215you really saying the MLB rule book is wrong 😆
The runner was out
Even the MLB rule book says the catcher must have possession of the ball which Gary Sanchez did. The instant replay in New York is ruing baseball.
The catcher is not permitted to block the runner's path to the plate unless he is in possession of the ball. He was in the baseline before the ball arrived therefore the runner was ruled safe /the end
so what if hes in the baseline? he didnt make any contact with the runner and thats not even the case here, his leg was NOT on the ground therefore not blocking anything.
You can't expect not to get smashed at home while also blocking the base.
I remember like yesterday Rocco with full set of hair manning CF in Tropicana Field lol Didn’t know the dude went big time bald like that 😂
He had to live up to his last name lmao
@@djshuffl3r hehe Rocco BALDelli 😆 good one
It was the correct call, should the runner have blasted the catcher into the batter's box would that been would that have been better?
This should have never been reversed. The ball was in he catchers mitt by the time the runner was in his full slide. I think the runner would have been out anyway. After
the catcher has the ball in his mitt, things happen so fast that he cannot always control where he is going to end up.
The catcher was blocking the plate so therefore the runner is safe
@@Eddie_Schantz He was out at home even the umpires agreed he was out. The instant replay has got to go.
Gary did a definition of good feet work to get the runner out at home but got reversed being safe. What a bull shit call of the play being reversed it should’ve been out. Gary didn’t even block the plate when the runner tried to score
NFL: man are replay rules suck. No one could possibly be worse.
MLB: hold my beer
If I was a catcher I might start in first base foul territory behind the plate and only move once I catch the ball
right, you have to reprogram your brain from how you've been playing baseball your whole life.
@@deputyduffy if that was the case you were taught wrong from way back in your youth. You can’t block the plate without the ball. Been a rule a long time now. The catcher here is clearly blocking the plate without the ball. Textbook obstruction.
If the catcher stayed where he was he could have caught the ball then dropped forward. He would have been ok. Instead he stepped between the runner and the plate without the ball. He screwed up. It happens.
@@baseballumpires6901 but my understanding is that the rule allows the catcher to move in front of the plate (or really anywhere the throw takes them) in order to catch the ball, correct?
I stated what a catcher could do to guarantee not being called for a blocking violation.
@@holmj12 not necessarily correct. Watch the video again. The catcher could have stayed right where he set up and caught the ball plus came down on the tag legally. Instead he moved in between the plate and runner when he didn’t need to and was blocking the plate before the runner was even in the screen.
The rule doesn’t seem fair to the fielder at times but it is the rule. No question whatsoever in this video that was obstruction.
Those 2 umps and the one that called the play out aren’t the guys in NY so not sure why he is mad at them lol
Exactly. He should get a good fine for being ridiculous!
Needed someone to yell at I guess
He’s not the only one that has done this lol. After the game he addressed it. And called out New York
You would be pissed off too. Lol
Can't wait to see the Jomboy breakdown! Lol.
Rocco is taking lessons from Aaron Boone on how to chew the ump's ass.
This is beyond pathetic why does NY not ever give their lame explanation?
Just add a second home plate and make it a force out like softball
I hope Jomboy Media covers this
Embarrassing for baseball.
Rule 6.01 (i)(2) Unless the catcher is in possession of the ball, the catcher cannot block the pathway of the runner as he is attempting to score. If, in the judgment of the umpire, the catcher without possession of the ball blocks the pathway of the runner, the umpire shall call or signal the runner safe. Not withstanding the above, it shall not be considered a violation of this Rule 6.01(i)(2) if the catcher blocks the pathway of the runner in a legitimate attempt to field the throw (e.g., in reaction to the direction, trajectory or the hop of the incoming throw, or in reaction to a throw that originates from a pitcher or drawn-in infielder). In addition, a catcher without possession of the ball shall not be adjudged to violate this Rule 6.01(i)(2) if the runner could have avoided the collision with the catcher (or other player covering home plate) by sliding.
Rule 6.01(i)(2) Comment: A catcher shall not be deemed to have violated Rule 6.01(i)(2) unless he has both blocked the plate without possession the ball (or when not in a legitimate attempt to field the throw), and also hindered or impeded the progress of the runner attempting to score. A catcher shall not be deemed to have hindered or impeded the progress of the runner if, in the judgment of the umpire, the runner would have been called out notwithstanding the catcher having blocked the plate. In addition, a catcher should use best efforts to avoid unnecessary and forcible contact while tagging a runner attempting to slide. Catchers who routinely make unnecessary and forcible contact with a runner attempting to slide (e.g., by initiating contact using a knee, shin guard, elbow or forearm) may be subject to discipline by the League President. All references to “the catcher” in this Rule 6.01(i) shall apply equally to other players covering home plate. In addition, Rule 6.01(i)(2) shall not apply to force plays at home plate.
Replay review got the call correct catcher was blocking the plate without the possession of the ball.
Sanchez blocked the plate due to the throw and having the ball before Merrifield got there
You obviously did not watch the clip. Lol😅
"Where is the catcher supposed to be to catch the ball"?? He can stand in front of or behind the plate THEN HE CAN BLOCK THE PLATE!!!!!!!!!!! AGAIN when you challenge the call you give away your right to complain to the umpires on the field because they didn't make the call NY made the call. This rule will be reviewed and possibly changed when runners start to cleat the catcher for blocking the plate, and once a catcher gets cleated a few times they will change the way they play the throw either set up in front of the plate or in back of the plate and give the runner a lane.
No he can’t block the plate he has to give the runner a lane to touch the plate
Bad Call absolutely the worst ejection ever in baseball
Good call 🤙🏾🤙🏾 catcher was blocking the plate
@@JevilduryI disagree
@@krasnoff91 what you mean 😆😆😆 he was blocking the plate Sanchez sucks as a defensive catcher
@@Jevildury More people say the call was out then safe
Even umpires
That’s a tough decision……what the hell else can he do? I don’t like it either……
When the umpiring is that bad, why doesn't a manager just pull the team off the field and call the commissioners office and tell them they would play again unless there's a new crew assigned? Boycott stupidity, at all levels.
I was just happy to see Rocco show some life
Might as well just play t-ball
WHO. ARE. YOU. ARGUING. WITH?
It's ridiculous to be this crazy yelling at 2 guys who have nothing to do with the call you're upset about.
He has to yell at someone. It's like yelling at you wife because your boss pissed you off.
@@deputyduffy You yell at your wife when your boss pisses you off?
@@ButchRahman That's why I'm single
But im backing in you cant go head first
Next time have your team walk off the field.
Absolutely blocked the plate.
I agree with you
@@krasnoff91 he was safe
@@minaeldiwany3215 I think Rocco has every right to be pist about the play. He is a good manager and knows the game well.
The replay booth in New York has got to go
The right call should’ve been an out, even the umpires agree.
I'm surprised the Out call was made in the first place. Review got it right. Home plate umpire had a great view of catcher blocking the plate but didn't make the call.
On another note, it is so weird to see Managers over and over arguing reversed calls with the umpires on the field that had nothing to do with the call.
Isn't the catcher allowed to block the plate after he receives the ball? Seems like that's what happened
@@cuse1182 Yup
we live on different planets my friend, my eyes saw the ball take him in front of the plate and he only blocked it after he caught the ball. All Legal
You smoke crack often?
The manager argues with the officials that are there, if he could call the replay officials he would, but he can't so he let's them have it (imo it's semi performative, sticking up for his team)
I don't see obstruction by catcher even in a high school or little league game. runner was not obstructed until the catcher had the ball.
Nothing to argue about here!
Most rulesets make this call much more black-and-white (textbook obstruction). It seems MLB wants to make things confusing. What makes this even more frustrating is that the catcher caught the ball slightly in front of the plate in fair territory but had his left leg blocking the plate. I have a feeling that the last camera angle was what determined for the replay official that it was obstruction (4:53). As the runner neared the plate, the catcher moved into the runner's path. The runner was already sliding with no path to the plate when the catcher caught the ball. Like I said, in most rulesets this is textbook obstruction.
Announcer: "Is he supposed to stand in fair territory?" Yes.
The throw took him into the runners path not obstruction
@@basedjiren3889 Throw did not take him there. Look at 4:55. One step to his right and he could have still caught the ball easily and not impeded the runner.
Clear violation. Replay crew got it right.
Per MLB rule glossary: "The catcher is not permitted to block the runner's path to the plate unless he is in possession of the ball, though blocking the path of the runner in a legitimate attempt to receive a throw is not considered a violation
Obviously wasn’t according to the rule
He was out
The replay booth got it wrong
How about the fielder not throwing the ball right at the plate so that the catcher doesn't have to block the plate to catch it? Had the throw been just slightly away from the plate this would not have happened.
Problem is. Sanchez actually did give him a lane. Merrifield admitted he slid into him on purpose to get the call. So Whit knew he had a lane
if I'm a fan of the jays they got it right a fan of Twins they got it wrong LoL I stand by that
Nice fake rage Rocco lol
Sanchez Needs to be in fair territory to avoid a collision.
Per MLB rule glossary: "The catcher is not permitted to block the runner's path to the plate unless he is in possession of the ball, though blocking the path of the runner in a legitimate attempt to receive a throw is not considered a violation."
Sanchez followed all of those. Not even a Twins fan either
Throw pulled the catcher in the line. You're wrong and im not a twins fan.
@@Pack247 Toronto fans know nothing except a few of them have admitted it was the wrong call
That's cap and even tho I'm a Twins fan this call was complete full of shit from replay
Clearly yells FUCK OFF at the press box directed to the replay crew
The MLB is cracking down on all these note to catchers STOP BLOCKING THE PLATE...stand in front of the plate, use the third base line as a guide in front is yours behind belongs to the runner.
no lane from start the rules state in ball is thrown in direction you can change he didn't need to change therefore they got the rule correct
If the left fielder hadn't taken an unnecessary crow hop, there would have been no debate. I'm a Twins fan, but blame this one on the left fielder. Shoulda never been close.
Just make the rules the way they used to be no more confusion.
This is why I am no longer a fan of MLB baseball. The rules are horrible.
The runner is out all day , anyway, in my book.
Ok, I've had enough. Time to get rid of these BS rules & go back to the way it was...in ALL sports. By now, everyone should be informed as to the consequences of concussions. Make your own choice: A) Accept the risks involved so that you can continue to be an overpaid professional athlete, or B) Sit your happy ass at home.
you all still watch this crap?
Yikes! I guess I would have to read this new rule, however, given where the ball landed I think the announcers have a point...where could have he caught the ball if not there?
It looked like the runner might have been safe if not for the slight interference. However, it was very close. The throw was a bit too high. I think the call was correct.
Announcer…”There’s nothing definitive about reviewing whether or not the catcher blocked home plate”……when the catcher very clearly blocked home plate. Why? Was the runner’s foot able to slide over the plate? NO, because it hit the catcher’s leg. That’s “blocking home plate.” Seems complicated, but actually Pretty simple. Stay in your lane bro…like the catcher in the runner’s…!
“Nothing definitive” it’s not a black or white issue, as he said. The catcher is allowed to set up wherever he can in order to make the catch, he then folds his leg in order to give the runner as much room as possible. But Sanchez makes the catch as Whitfield is sliding into him, meaning he’s not blocking the plate as long as he’s setting himself up to make the catch.
@@quenwortley2194 Def not being confrontational bro…but, by rule (which is black and white) he is not allowed to set up wherever he wants to make the catch. He is supposed to stay on the inside of the runner’s lane, make the catch, and carry the tag into the runner. He cannot block the runner’s path to slide into the plate. The catcher clearly dropped his left leg into the runner’s path. That’s obstruction.
@@Ryanrob444 where was he supposed to stand to catch the ball? If the catcher has the ball or is in the act of receiving it he can stand where ever he’d like.
@@kalebb8608 That’s just it…he cannot stand wherever he’d like. Very simply, by rule, he cannot block the runner’s path to slide into the base. If you watch the video in slow motion, you can see that the runner’s foot slid into the catcher’s leg. If his foot had not hit the catcher’s leg, the play would have been a lot closer, maybe safe. I know it seems logical that the catcher should be able to stand wherever he’d like to catch the ball, but the rules as they apply to obstruction are pretty simple. If you impede a runner’s path, it’s obstruction, period. If obstruction is called, it’s a delayed dead ball and the umpire’s job to nullify the act of obstruction after the play is over. In this case, the umpire did not signal obstruction right away (his mistake), so that’s why it went to replay. You can see the runner telling the umpire right away that his path was blocked. The replay officials watched in slow motion, which clearly showed the catcher’s leg blocking the plate, which you just simply cannot do. Easy call. Obstruction. To nullify that obstruction, the call is safe.
I know old school rules allowed the catcher to “block the plate.” You just simply cannot do that anymore, by rule. The catcher was supposed to set up on the inside of the runner’s lane, catch the ball, and carry the tag into the runner. Maybe he wouldn’t have gotten the out then, but that’s the rules. Also, if the left fielder wouldn’t have double clutched, the play wouldn’t have been close.
@@Ryanrob444Know the rules before talking about them. 🤦 What Sanchez did was legal.
What happened to our national pastime. As a catcher this is the worst ruleing I’ve ever seen.
I agree and I also agree with the announcer when he said that if the throw from the outfielder is right on the money at the plate, where is the catcher suppose
to go? He has to catch the ball where it is thrown. This was a bad call.
He was safe
troll go away
he was out go away troll
It was the right call. The runner would have scored if Sanchez hadn’t blocked the plate
I think it would be a good idea to reject Rocco permanently and get a legitimate manager. Take the analytics and run them through the shredder and start to play real baseball.
Almost every team uses analytics in some form
This is what happens when too much rules are created to protect players. I get it, but it’s going to take away your ability to play the game too. No you have to imagine a very large pole at home plate on receiving throws that is a dead area, because catching a ball there grants the runner the run.
Obvious case of announcers clueless with the rules. The call of the field was incorrect and replay was used to correct the call. This was obstruction by the catcher. He was blocking the base well before having the ball. You can see him set up and the runner Isn’t even in the screen yet. He could have been a step back to make the catch then dropped for the tag. Then the coach yells at the umpires who only announced the decision from the replay booth. Ridiculous. That is an automatic ejection the second he comes out of the dugout.
Nothing to argue about here!