Can this Cheap Simple Hack make my Model Carriages Better?
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- Hello everyone,
Today Lawrie did some reading on the internet and has come up with a cunning plan to improve his old Hornby Teaks, but will it work?
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if you seal them in with a coat of gloss enamel varnish and wet sand in a few more coats with a final brushed coat, you will also get the golden shimmer and depth that a real teak has, but great result still Lawrie!
Splendid transformation! The other simple technique I use to improve these is to paint the underframe in a sort of faux-teak colour and paint the roof grey - I go for a different shade on every roof to indicate that they've spent different amounts of time in service. But I'm modelling the early BR era, when any coach still in teak livery was probably looking pretty rough.
Wonderful transformation! Very well done. One tip for fitting in the people is cutting off their feet, as model carriage floors are much thickker than their real life counterparts. You'll find your passengers go in more easy that way.
Ahhhhhh! That would certainly help
I never thought Model Railways would be so barbaric 😂😂 Good tip
great tip !
For some Hornby models such as the Intercity 125 power cars, you've got to chop off not just the feet, but the legs as well, to make them sit properly within the driver cabs.
I dug out mine and my dads collection of old Hornby trains and rolling stock and we spent the weekend servicing them up getting most of them running again, i love little jobs like this, yes you could buy a nice newer model but sometimes its more satisfying getting the old stuff going or looking better.
Struggled to believe the coaches at the end were the same ones at the beginning, that really is a fantastic technique!
I keep catching a glance of them and feeling quite chuffed.
I love when small cheap and easy things work so well. Great job as always brother! 👏
Thank you very much! I was very pleased with how these came out
I am loving the content but please don't burn yourself out again.
Doing my best!
Sadly, it's jeep making content to earn enough to survive or pack up!
@lmm I am sorry to hear that. I don't want to see your channel go but I also don't want you to suffer.
@TheSteamdriver keep watching the videos and share with your friends!
@lmm your videos complete me.
Yes. Lawrie, take care of yourself.
Best treatment for these teak coaches is Citadel Paints ‘Seraphim Sepia’ wash. Successive coats will darken the effect. Two to three normally suffices. Easy to wash off before it dries in the event of mistakes.
I used this paint too but also the Contrast Gore Guntra Fur. Both nice and in reality there were many shades and finishes👍
The "standing passenger" in a coach is not often modelled, but I've rarely been on a train without people walking up and down the aisle almost all the time. I haven't seen a rendition of the classic early seventies "football special" either. That popped in my head because the last time I saw a Gresley in revenue service was a buffet in blue grey on a football special, around 1974. The football special coach (heads and arms sticking out of every available window, screaming) could also be used for the "Lunatic Railtour" coach, another gem of the seventies and eighties. For purist authenticity, always make sure your football special arrives in a heroically filthy condition, exactly eight minutes after kick off.
The furniture pen looks like it would be good for rain stain and weathering on buildings too.
I'm really happy with the TTI. Makes it look more real.
Oh that's a good idea, I'll have to try it on buildings
I installed one but should have cut off the base, he is just a bit too tall
It's a great result, especially considering what a pain in the behind fully repainting the coach bodes would be, with having to redo all the pinstripes and decals.
I was very pleased with the result!
Great coaching session on the technique. Bought a discounted Black Prince, wonderful deal and goes well with my Evening Star… the new detailed Hornby 9F is a great model.
It's a lot of model for the money. I'm really impressed with mine!
Thank you, Lawie, for the interesting video. Personally, I used a Citadel Sepia wash, which produced a nice finish. - Martin (Thailand)
Also one thing to improve on these carriages is the top half of the chassis needs painting the correct brown colour and the wheel centres also require this brown colour.
I will be doing this wood stain pen method and paint the interior and chassis and wheel centres on mine i purchased at a show.
Ah thank you, I'll give that a bash
Good job, Lawrie 👍.
I've seen some people use a very thin black wash to tone down the fake teak, and it looks quite good.
That would work, but might take longer as I'd guess would be quite runny
I was going to suggest the same, maybe even a watered down ink wash, I've had really good results with vallejo brown ink.
What a contrast! Really makes them pop.
Paint and stain markers are a godsend for the modeler with an unsteady hand.
Or for us who have no talent!
Great video and now I'm inspired to do all my old Hornby teaks inside and out. Thank you
You're most welcome!
Nice work. Thanks for coaching us on that improvement. 👍😊
I see what you did there, and I approve
@ Always enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work. 👍
I used a paint wash called "seraphim sepia" from Citadel Paints.
Hi Lawrie, I always enjoy watching your videos especially those that help to improve the look of older models that many of us have. So I immediately opened up this video as I too have many of these Teaks.
There are a thousand ways to skin a cat and this is another approach which many will probably have a go at.
A while back I too decided to improve my Teaks but went for a more painterly approach using the Citadel Colour paints used by war gamers.
I was pleasantly surprised with the outcome giving some one coat and others two coats.
The best one in my opinion is the Gore Guntra Fur Contrast paint.
I also did a couple of the Triang Thompson Carriages which made a massive difference.
If interested head over to my channel for a look at how they turned out.
Thanks for sharing this tutorial.
Cheers 👍
Lawrie always a pleasure! Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice job Lawrie. I've got 3 of these that I've had for about a thousand years. I think I'll try it
I easy very pleasantly surprised
That looks fantastic. I have some new Isle of Wight Hornby 4 wheels and they use lots of dots to get the wood effect. It really only works from a few feet away, up close you can see the dots. You method actually looks good close up. I do like an easy solution that gives an impressive result. Its amazing how a simple wash can turn an ok painted miniature into a rely nice looking miniature.
Oh really? That's disappointing that the new ones don't look brilliant close
Great video mate, this looks loads better!
Thank you! I've very pleased
that was a very nice improvement !
Thank you!
They look great with some weathering and detailing 👌nice work!
Thank you!
The theory is 'that the paint is ok as you cannot really see it'. Please do not give up your day job when it comes to painting. Interesting tip and vid but your hand painting is truly epic. I will not say epic in which way but I am sure you know.
The teak coaches are great ofc, but you gotta applaud him for bringing along a pack of jelly tots lol
Big fan of a Jelly Tot
Great job Lawrie. We all wish we could be the perfect model maker but this is just up my street :)
I like things which are easy to do but have a big effect
Hi Lawrie, I am a great believer in thin washes, building up multiple layers to get the right effect. I think you saw my WDLR weathered wagons at LOWMEX. I was after a different effect to what you are doing here but the principle is the same. If you finish off with a gloss varnish it will brighten them right up. Cheers (hope to see you at LOWMEX again this year, November the 1st and 2nd at Lowestoft College. I am Neal's friend who told you off for poking about with his Jung 😆).
I think that would work - but that's a proper technique which takes time and skill. This I wanted to try because it was so simple.
Neal remains very amused by that!
@@lmm I don't know about skill. I ended up with it because I am crap at painting 🤣🤣🤣 Practice on something of the same material and don't worry about it. See what you end up with and make a note for the real job. It may take several coats of different colours but every day is a school day.
Another coat Then Some Varnish works Wonders ✨
I think varnish will really make them pop
I do like 9f’s and I do like saving a load of money, thank you for your service lawrie
Excellent!
It's a really nice Model. I can't wait for the next show so I can give it a proper run
It’s amazing what a little work will improve the appearance of a model, passenger coaches always look better with passengers.
I was very pleasantly surprised how they came out. Putting people in was a huge improvement.
i did it and it works fantastic
It works well doesn't it!
Yes a good coat of satin varnish. The paintwork on the teaks strange but true is known as 'Scumble' Fascinating how they applied it.
I didn't know that, thanks for sharing
They look really good 👍🏻
Thank you!
I use a silver Sharpie on black plastic wheels to great effect. Tread and rim only, not on the hub (spoked or solid). Yes, I’ve got a lot of older second hand rolling stock, and black plastic wheels do them no favours. I will replace wheel sets where necessary (other issues) on coaches, and have replaced a few wagon sets, but for early four wheeled wagons, I can’t justify the expense. Like the furniture touch up pens, there is colour suspended in a solvent… so you have to find the right technique. But well worth a few minutes of your time.
Oh I'll give that a bash!
Thanks for sharing the idea, hadn't occurred to me to do this to the colour of coaches. Have you you tried amputating the lower legs of the figures so they sit better? Bit brutal but works nicely.
That's been mentioned a few times! Next time I shall!
They look great. !
Thank you very much
In York carriage works apparently they used to give the each teak coach 32 coats of varnish. I wonder how long it took to wear those coats of varnish away.
Quite a while!
Awesome thanks for sharing this video keep them up
You're most welcome
Those coaches look much better now. Could you give us a link to where you got the pen from?
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I got the 'oak' one
I actually really like these teaks, especially the ones with metal wheels. They free roll so well that it's a shame they're so lacking for small detail.
I'd like to renumber a few of the ones I have before coloring with a refinishing pen, since I have four of the same numbered coach.
I have a set from Hornby that came with coaches with the same number!
Huh. I've bought all my teaks second hand off a.... well known bidding website... and figured the haphazard numbered coaches I got were as a result of a set being separated over time, different sold lots, etc. Didn't think one set would come with the same number straight from Hornby but oh well!
Great video lmm!
@@NextEevolution ....Nnnnooo.... Hornby has pretty much nearly always used "22357" as the running number of the Gresley corridor composite, and "4237" for the brake variant; while they occasionally change one or two numbers around, they usually default back to those eventually.
I'm tempted to try this on my old teaks now...
It worked really well and was super easy!
Hi Lawrie you should go to the Telford steam railway and love the video’s
Stay tuned next month!
Maybe a coat of primer on the interior would help the pen take to the plastic better. Also, don't be afraid to cut the feet off the figures that don't want to sit properly!
Yes, it probably would have!
Lawrie, would it have been easier to put the superglue on the seat?
I did end up doing that
lawrie you should get a 5 inch garden railway iv got one in my garden I think it would be you short of style going through the mantinace of it.
If only I had room!
Brilliant
Thank you!
My dad's been using oil pastels for weathering for ages
Oh that's a good idea
6:18 @LMM Yea cus the NYMR broke all the other engines...
Looks great though
They looked dramatically different and considering you can pick them coaches up for as little as 3 - 5 pounds there is so much potential in what you could do
It really makes them much better!
Hey there👋
great vlog
Glad you enjoyed it
Masking tape along the roof edge will give you a cleaner line and avoid issues.
Yes it would, I had hoped that I would have been able to colour inside the lines
Do you think one of these pens (maybe a darker wood) would be a good way to give a base coat of colour on sleepers?
In not sure, as they're quite dark to start with
i think the interior was maybe better with paint and also i think to cut there feets off was better sitting pose. but still it does look good
Next time I'll paint the interior better and remove feet!
@@lmm but still it does look good on that nice wagons. but i was watching only early video when i finished comment and later you did tell it. sorry if i offend you bit...
These coaches were actually introduced in 1977, so they're even older than you thought. 🙂
Iv had some troublesome sitting figures. I was forced to remove all the feet. That was a horrific job! 😂
I may have to do that next time!
I’ve got 3 from the flying Scotsman train set. I think I’ll try this.
It worked surprisingly well!
I have that coach.
It's a very common coach!
@lmm I know but it's still cool we have the same one.
Unfortunately i can't afford a fleet of 9Fs ( or even 1 ). I do however have a fleet ( of 3) of 1960's Hornby Brush Type 2s. ( All of which need some TLC ( when i have the time ( and inclination )) to get into good running order).
That's a few evenings work!
What is the LEGO excavator on you're desk?
It's some knock off brand a friend got me for my birthday.
There's a short on the channel of building it which reveals what it is
This doesn't surprise me: in Warhammer 40,000 circles, wood stain is known as "instant skill," and it looks like that pen is just dispensing small amounts of wood stain.
Washes are how I got all of my minis to an acceptable standard 😂
I remember when they released the first ones, and what a difference that made
oh wonder how a bachmann toby would look
I have no idea.
Your model of "Toby" could use that pen too
I don't actually have Toby
Hi Lawrie. Only 11 more to do. caroline.
That's going to take a while!
Reminds me of how I surf the webs.
The only correct way to use a computer.
Fancy doing mine now? 😅
Sure. It was surprisingly easy
Those really cheap ones are quite dreadful. I bought a few of them for mine and had to repaint the lot.
You've done a better job than I
Shading in wood shades? Sounds shady 😅
Hahahaha
They were produced from the 1970s more like. They are really that old, the design.
Are they really
That does look a lot better, I have to say - the old Hornby 'teak' looked horrible, to be honest.
Thank you!