Joyce has been fighting the same way all the time. He’ll fight the same way in the rematch it will be extremely hard to fight differently. I’m going for Joyce to get stopped again. Zhang is a tough guy to beat.
@@TheJoker-yz8dv Hrgovic won because of the major number of shots landed...Maybe Zhang has landed something heavier, but the judges today look only the number of shots to score points . unless there are knockdowns...
@@an8dr2a Damage is the most important, in some of the early rounds Hrgovic landed a few more punches than Zhang but Zhang landed cleaner and harder shots.
Not an upset. It's always different when a fighter goes against one who doesn't back up. Weiling has been improving each fight. Joyce is a punching bag.
What kind of casual take is this. Styles make fights, Joyce always trains hes professional but he took Zhang slightly lightly in the sense that he didn't respect his skills
I like Joe.. man has heart, but l can't see him turning it round in the 2nd fight. Hes too robotic & stiff.. Zhangs quick for a big lump & has footwork, timing & can bang! I don't know what Joyce does different to make an impact.
@@ArtemMk19 I think it will be closer this time around if Joyce and his team are smart the made MAJOR adjustments one being head movement. Joyce did a really good job last fight blocking shots with his face loll. This time around hopefully he will pick up the defensive slack and bob and weave. With That being said zhang will come out victorious ending Joyce hype train ( he was never that good anyway one dimensional)
Credit to Joyce taking the rematch. Can’t see what purpose the huge weight gain for the rematch serves, as I didn’t feel it was the weight differential that caused him to lose…..unless of course Joyce felt that he had somewhat drained himself in coming in a lot leaner in the first fight. Hopefully he’s been working on staying out of the way of that southpaw straight left and countering it whilst staying close. Zhang seems to like that mid range distance where his combos flow better. Joyce really should try and smother him up close with constant pressure whisky being defensively responsible.
Zhang was around 5 stone heavier I think they said in the 1st fight or a good few stones and Joyce came in way lighter thinking he can be faster with his hands and footwork and thought Zhang would be to slow but Zhang hits hard very hard so not a good idea plus it was Joyce who looked slower. The added weight for this fight now zhang only around 10lb heavier. The added weight could either slow Joyce down more as he's not the quickest when lighter. It may slow him down badly making him a sitting duck or he has a firefight and hopes he stops Zhang but that won't be easy Zhang is a warrior.
They weren't jabs. He barely threw a jab the whole bout. He's a southpaw, so those punches you think are jabs are actually straight lefts. Technically 'power punches'
Why did the doc say "how many fingers"? He asked the question, Joyce answered correctly twice, proving his eye was still working. Then after quickly checking if the TV had picked it up, the doc bottles the question and leaves it upto the ref?
Styles make fights. Zhang is not a big puncher, but his strategy of taking Joyce head on with straight punches through the guard was the correct one. Unless Joyce finds a way to block Zhang's straight left, the same thing will happen again.
@@thomaslandcaster9638 Zhang is a good puncher. He's a solid puncher. But Zhang is not a Wilder or AJ-level puncher who are "big punchers" in my book. If he was, he would've KO'd Hrgovic. He would've put away Forrest. But instead he had to settle for a majority draw. Unless you are prepared to say that Hrgovic has a chin stronger than Joyce. Are you? If so, based on what? It's pretty clear you've only seen one of Zhang's fights.
Wow hes for me the hardest puncher in heavyweight boxing,wilder can hit with his swingers,this guy is straight left ,and hard,every has their take on things my friend
@@finchsferrets2390 If Zhang was truly a "big puncher", he would've taken Hrgovic out and certainly Forrest, a man he put down three times and could not finish. Zhang is a solid puncher, because he busted up Joyce's face to the point that the ref had to stop the fight. He employed the right style against an aggressive pressure fighter with poor defense. But the "hardest puncher in boxing"? C'mon! Forrest would've been out in the first round and Hrgovic would've been gone, too. But that didn't happen.
Zhang is very much dependent on his power punch. On the other hand, joyce was able to walk through everyone of his opponents power, and is known for his super durability. And probably would've continued if it weren't for his face failing him
zhilei is from Henan province which is a humble agricultural province. Not easy for him to get to this point with this achievement. it is also a clean fight, respect to Joe as well
Was always a huge risk to take this rematch. Can't help but wonder why with all that close range fighting in the pocket neither fight tried any Cus D'Amato side steps? Fair play to Joyce he Fort like a warrior and stood toe to toe for the fans.
Joyce came in way too light in this fight… who told him 256 is good especially after he mollywopped Joesph Parker at 277 why would you come in to your next fight at 256 against a bigger opponent smh
I like the press conference before the fight where Zhang praised the opponent great chin great stamina etc but I'm big bang right here, I bang everything ...hahaha.
Early on, it's evident that Joe would fight without defense and eventually, Zhang would be just too much punishment to endure. I don't think Zhang could beat Tyson Fury.
In my mind, he is already the number one boxing champion. It seems that everyone wants to avoid him. He is already 40 years old and can only fight for 5 more years at most.
I said it with respect, l never did see Joyce as a good boxer, respect to him to get so far but it's time for him to quite or be a punching bag for many excellent heavyweights
Próximo rival de tyson fury. Pero del tirón. Muy bien boxeador además zurdo potente con buen movimiento de piernas y cabeza me a gustado mucho combatazo con fury🎉
Bit more lateral movement to his right, bit better jab and right hook. A few more uppercuts on inside, besides that looks great. 280, built for power, dense with bone crushing power. Rematch will go same way. Joyce has no fast twitch or power/speed to his shots. Tough as nails but CTE is inevitable, slow reflexes. Arm puncher not very athletic. Best quality is his resiliency. It’s great but when that’s your only strong point, that and size u got issues. Should make his money and get out
Joe Joyce is very tough at taking hard punches but unfortunately he can't land hard punches himself and his punching isn't for heavyweight at all unless he ups his power to a heavyweight status. Zhang on other hand is a very powerful heavyweight puncher . But in the rematch if Joyce can just punch harder, improve his head movement and footwork , he surely will beat Zhang coz Zhilei conditioning is bad and after rounds 6 he loses stamina badly.
Joe Joyce is so easy to hit, just stands infront with no movement , can see same in 2nd fight, unless Joyce goes wild on Zhang, no that ain't gonna happen
Moving the head moving the torso moving the feet hitting and not getting hit are the basic of the basics in boxing, how world class boxers don't apply that?
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Zhang lui a martyrisé et matraquer l'oeil car il a visé aux mêmes endroits , il faut être très thecnique pour faire ça. C'est une sacrée performance de Zhang , tout en douceur il l'a éteint. Et joe Joyce il n'est pas facile a battre , bravo Zhang.
Joyce has been fighting the same way all the time. He’ll fight the same way in the rematch it will be extremely hard to fight differently. I’m going for Joyce to get stopped again. Zhang is a tough guy to beat.
Joyce is slow. And has no power punch, jabs is OK but against a beast like zhang it's no good
Joe to me always seems to fight like a robot
Spot on
they having a 3rd at some point ?
This aged extremely well lol
Zhilei zhang was robbed in the filip hrgovic fight.💯🥊
Yes
@@059eastNah Hrgovic won that fight ...
with 4 margin points
@@an8dr2aNo way. Zhang won that 114-113
@@TheJoker-yz8dv Hrgovic won because of the major number of shots landed...Maybe Zhang has landed something heavier, but the judges today look only the number of shots to score points .
unless there are knockdowns...
@@an8dr2a Damage is the most important, in some of the early rounds Hrgovic landed a few more punches than Zhang but Zhang landed cleaner and harder shots.
Glaciers move faster than Joyce’s punches! Zhang’s still waiting for Joyce’s punches from the first fight..
I don't get why people think this is a huge upset. Zhang was always a good boxer, even in the Olympics
I mean we know why....🙄
Because everyone expected Joe to win, except for the RUclips commentors who after the fight said they always picked zhang
Probably because of his stamina issues but I agree he shouldn't have been that much of an underdog. Joyce is overrated and Zhang is underrated.
Always bet on Asian.
@@Getithowyoulive863Let me guess.. racism?
Joyce does a good job at blocking punches with his face.
Unfortunately yes.
😂😂😂😂 I never heard that joke before
awesome😅😅😂
@@chrishaz1122 most boxing videos have this one.
@@animemium9935 I was being sarcastic
Zhilei zhang 🇨🇳 vs Andy ruiz 🇺🇸 would be a fireworks type of fight.
Don't Worry about that I'm gonna knock Ruiz around
@@loserischamp5457is that you Charlie Z?
@@tamaaa7745 No but I have Wondered what ever happened to old Charlie
@michaelhernandez7700 Michael when I get done with ruiz you'll soon be my fan but guess what you can stay with that obese loser
@@loserischamp5457mafia hit for getting out of line.😂
i feel like watching a slow mo video when looking at joyce punch combination
First thing I thought of while watching is how slow Joe Joyce is! 😮
Crazy how these two guys carried the entire heavyweight division this year with no belts. 😂😢
#StraightLikeThat
I carry the division on my back! - Joshua 🤡 lol
@@memento5113wym, he did .
@@mehulmaharaj5015yeah he carried those two losses against a cruiserweight on his back, thats for sure
Man people just be saying anything
joyce looked a little sluggish and possibly under done. Zhang how ever, solid. well done.
No he can’t bully someone his size lol got no skills
Teddy Atlas said “ you can turn the lights out and you’ll still hit Joyce . You can’t miss him. It’s harder to miss him than hit. him
One of the hardest hitters in the division against a guy who likes to block punches with his face. "An upset for the ages"? Really??
Joyce boxing like a robot
Never thought anyone could look more static and laboured in boxing ring than AJ. Then I watched Joyce. My goodness what a log
Joyce fights like we all do when we are dreaming. In slow motion.
Yes
The level of superiority is huge I don’t think Joyce vs zhang 2 will be different than this fight
Because (for some reason) you believe people don't learn from their mistakes. Thus, nothing changes in life (in your mind).
@@MrBri0523has nothing to do with learning one guy is clearly stronger and has a heavier hand
@@diegoportillo21 He probably doesn’t know what Boxing is and how really works 😂Leave him alone😂🤡
@@gianlucadesposorio8869aged poorly 😂
@@MrBri0523 You were wrong Zhang banged Joyce head a second time. Joyce is a slow mo boxer is not even his fault.
My god its like watching in slow motion
Zhang is a fucking monster
Zhang is the real juggernaut. Zhang hits really hard with his left. If someone stands and bangs with him then goodbye.
💯💥
Zheili Bang, boy this guy is heavy handed. Cannot wait for Saturday
After rewatching this fight, I believe Joyce is going to get knocked out latest round 10. He doesn't move his stiff head
Yeah he is a terrible boxer. Seems he got this far on his Chin and Power.
It’s like watching in slow motion if compared to a Holyfield v Bowe fight.
Yeah it’s crazy how big of a difference steroids make isn’t it
An upset? Joyce is a top 10 gate keeper, at best.
Not an upset. It's always different when a fighter goes against one who doesn't back up. Weiling has been improving each fight. Joyce is a punching bag.
Where tf you getting the name Weiling from? Mans got Zhilei you racist
LMFAO@@HoLeefuk-zc7oo
@@HoLeefuk-zc7ooufc..
I love watching fights in slo mo…. Oh wait
Joe throws a punch today - it will arrive tomorrow.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
yeah but these punches heavy
he started moving his head in this fight to avoid a punch in the rematch
Definitely 💯
How teh F was Joyce a -11000 favorite over anyone let alone Zhang ? Goodness people are clueless about boxing
You can tell who actually trained and took this seriously
Yeah both of them, making excuses up Ffs he lost weight for the fight that’s how serious he was taking it.
What kind of casual take is this. Styles make fights, Joyce always trains hes professional but he took Zhang slightly lightly in the sense that he didn't respect his skills
I like zhang. Hrgovic shoul give him rematch
I like Joe.. man has heart, but l can't see him turning it round in the 2nd fight.
Hes too robotic & stiff.. Zhangs quick for a big lump & has footwork, timing & can bang!
I don't know what Joyce does different to make an impact.
Joyce will beeak both eyes this time. With that slow motion punches, he ll go no where.
Big Bang v Fury would be epic
Genuinely the best heavyweight matchup of the year. What a year for heavyweight boxing 2023 has been...
You'd be better off going to your local pub to see a good fight this year.
Kung Pao Zhang adds some nice spice to the division.
Kung pao😂 that's funny man
Man that straight left hand is like a missile
joyce ate those punches to his face like its a snack, god damn😮
Whenever Zhang threw that left he ate. Still the guy has a good chin.
Joyce trained all these months to not
Change tactics 😂
Couple of more Rounds! Joyce would have done more dams to his eye! So good call Doctor.
Not a upset if you know boxing💯
You won big money on this huh. Zang was huge favorite
@@duckyh9712 didn’t bet on it payout was cheeks nevertheless I knew he would outbox Joyce way more skill.
What do you think the result will be in the second battle? your opinion?
@@ArtemMk19 I think it will be closer this time around if Joyce and his team are smart the made MAJOR adjustments one being head movement. Joyce did a really good job last fight blocking shots with his face loll. This time around hopefully he will pick up the defensive slack and bob and weave. With That being said zhang will come out victorious ending Joyce hype train ( he was never that good anyway one dimensional)
@duckyh9712 @ArtemMk19 devastating KO this time around not surprised zhang is a beast for his age
Winner vs Wilder
Wilder vs Zhang would be 🔥
I agree
Wilder would flatten both of these guys. Maybe Zhang could knock him out early, but the man has no stamina.
@@NyQuilDonut out in 5 lol
@@KissKissKrazyK Ok? I never predicted Wilder would win lol.
Credit to Joyce taking the rematch. Can’t see what purpose the huge weight gain for the rematch serves, as I didn’t feel it was the weight differential that caused him to lose…..unless of course Joyce felt that he had somewhat drained himself in coming in a lot leaner in the first fight. Hopefully he’s been working on staying out of the way of that southpaw straight left and countering it whilst staying close. Zhang seems to like that mid range distance where his combos flow better. Joyce really should try and smother him up close with constant pressure whisky being defensively responsible.
Zhang was around 5 stone heavier I think they said in the 1st fight or a good few stones and Joyce came in way lighter thinking he can be faster with his hands and footwork and thought Zhang would be to slow but Zhang hits hard very hard so not a good idea plus it was Joyce who looked slower. The added weight for this fight now zhang only around 10lb heavier. The added weight could either slow Joyce down more as he's not the quickest when lighter. It may slow him down badly making him a sitting duck or he has a firefight and hopes he stops Zhang but that won't be easy Zhang is a warrior.
Kudos to the ref!!! He knew Joyce couldnt stop Zhangs left.!!!! no need in joyce suffering anymore damage!!!
ZHang threw punches in bunches that were crunches to Joyce who munches 😇
Same result tomorrow for me
What do you think the result will be in the second battle? your opinion?
@@ArtemMk19 I think Zhang will win on a split decision, be a good fight though, Joyce said last time he didn't realise how quick Zhang was
@@leehowson440Zhang is stopping him lol
Not saying it was a bad stoppage but what is the point of asking him how many fingers he was holding as he got it right and still stopped it
Deontay Wilder must be in Wembley Saturday night for this showdown
That bum won't even take the Ruiz fight you think he'll get in there with either of these guys?
not a lot of southpaws in heavyweight division, prob why the left landed so cleanly
Joe moving to his right & getting caught square on didn't help.
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no foot works from joy Joyce, he is slow no head movement .
Glacia Joycemon y Zhileimon pol su selvicio muy bueno ete combatemon glacia
It's like an online PvP and the guy is spamming the straight left punches 😂
Zhilei Zhang is an absolute beast! 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳💪🔥
Respect to Zhang. He earned it the hard way. Not so much respect to Fury, who wants the belt but won't fight for it.
Fury will beat Joyce and Zhang at the same time bro 😂
@@rhodesboyson1700same time? Wow you must have a sore jaw from all that gulping
I had to play the video at x 2 speed to make Joyce's punches look normal.
Yes so slow why
Joyce ain’t winning rematch.
It wasn't an upset. Zhang is an all round better boxer ⚠️
I Think Zhang wins again
You knew Joyce's lack defense would catch up to him eventually; I was wrong though, I didn't think Zhang would be the one to catch him.
Joyce will beat him in the rematch
Joyce couldn't beat an egg 😂😂
@@md144 I think Zhang gets him again... but what do I know.
Team Joyce chose the wrong guy for records padding🤣
@3:24 " Theres that Quick hands "... Joyce punches visibly in slow motion 😂
No need for a rematch this was a one sided beating, Zhang wad trying to take it to distance to prove himself but his jabs destroyed the other guy
They weren't jabs. He barely threw a jab the whole bout. He's a southpaw, so those punches you think are jabs are actually straight lefts. Technically 'power punches'
Why did the doc say "how many fingers"? He asked the question, Joyce answered correctly twice, proving his eye was still working. Then after quickly checking if the TV had picked it up, the doc bottles the question and leaves it upto the ref?
Zhang put that left hand rite on Joyce's nose 👃🏿🩸
Speed and timing against heavy handed power .speed usualy wins.
Joyce can't handle the left hand of Zhang and I think Zhang will ko Joyce within 10 rounds
Styles make fights.
Zhang is not a big puncher, but his strategy of taking Joyce head on with straight punches through the guard was the correct one.
Unless Joyce finds a way to block Zhang's straight left, the same thing will happen again.
Not a big puncher? Are you kidding me. You probably didn't see much of his fight to say that.
@@thomaslandcaster9638 Zhang is a good puncher. He's a solid puncher. But Zhang is not a Wilder or AJ-level puncher who are "big punchers" in my book.
If he was, he would've KO'd Hrgovic.
He would've put away Forrest. But instead he had to settle for a majority draw.
Unless you are prepared to say that Hrgovic has a chin stronger than Joyce. Are you? If so, based on what?
It's pretty clear you've only seen one of Zhang's fights.
Wow hes for me the hardest puncher in heavyweight boxing,wilder can hit with his swingers,this guy is straight left ,and hard,every has their take on things my friend
@@finchsferrets2390 If Zhang was truly a "big puncher", he would've taken Hrgovic out and certainly Forrest, a man he put down three times and could not finish.
Zhang is a solid puncher, because he busted up Joyce's face to the point that the ref had to stop the fight. He employed the right style against an aggressive pressure fighter with poor defense.
But the "hardest puncher in boxing"? C'mon! Forrest would've been out in the first round and Hrgovic would've been gone, too. But that didn't happen.
Zhang is very much dependent on his power punch. On the other hand, joyce was able to walk through everyone of his opponents power, and is known for his super durability. And probably would've continued if it weren't for his face failing him
bruh zhang is also a medalist idk why they think upset, typical western people things i spose
zhilei is from Henan province which is a humble agricultural province. Not easy for him to get to this point with this achievement. it is also a clean fight, respect to Joe as well
Ok I checked this out after hearing Zhang make comments. Let's see how far he can make it with the politics in boxing 🤷🤔
Zhang vs Ruis would be an interesting fight
Joe joyce need to use the cross arm guard to protect himself.🥊💯
He still would’ve gotten a beat down!
Still he is too slow
@@And-the-newLol he was never even down on the canvas.
@@MrBri0523 he still got a beating! TKO
Was always a huge risk to take this rematch. Can't help but wonder why with all that close range fighting in the pocket neither fight tried any Cus D'Amato side steps? Fair play to Joyce he Fort like a warrior and stood toe to toe for the fans.
Joyce came in way too light in this fight… who told him 256 is good especially after he mollywopped Joesph Parker at 277 why would you come in to your next fight at 256 against a bigger opponent smh
I like the press conference before the fight where Zhang praised the opponent great chin great stamina etc but I'm big bang right here, I bang everything ...hahaha.
Early on, it's evident that Joe would fight without defense and eventually, Zhang would be just too much punishment to endure. I don't think Zhang could beat Tyson Fury.
I don't think Godzilla himself could beat Fury right now :p
The ref should administer the standing 8 count just to make sure the boxers are okay!
It was not an upset at all, except for the Top Rank and Queensberry's delusional clowns
In my mind, he is already the number one boxing champion. It seems that everyone wants to avoid him. He is already 40 years old and can only fight for 5 more years at most.
I said it with respect, l never did see Joyce as a good boxer, respect to him to get so far but it's time for him to quite or be a punching bag for many excellent heavyweights
The rematch will go the same, Joyce only knows one way to fight. He’s slooooooooo no head movement leads with his face. 😂🤣
I agree
😂🤣 Very impressive boxing, great finish. 😁
@@ArtemMk19We both got it right. 😁
Próximo rival de tyson fury.
Pero del tirón.
Muy bien boxeador además zurdo potente con buen movimiento de piernas y cabeza me a gustado mucho combatazo con fury🎉
hardly an upset. it looks like joyce started boxing a week ago
Big Joe, should be told to retire fof his own health.....
Nothing seems natural about Joyce, he’s putting nothing into his punches, I’ll be surprised if he does any better in the rematch
Bit more lateral movement to his right, bit better jab and right hook. A few more uppercuts on inside, besides that looks great. 280, built for power, dense with bone crushing power. Rematch will go same way. Joyce has no fast twitch or power/speed to his shots. Tough as nails but CTE is inevitable, slow reflexes. Arm puncher not very athletic. Best quality is his resiliency. It’s great but when that’s your only strong point, that and size u got issues. Should make his money and get out
Joyce got what he deserved man was talking about aj is afraid of him proceed to get back to back K.O😂😂😂
Joe Joyce is very tough at taking hard punches but unfortunately he can't land hard punches himself and his punching isn't for heavyweight at all unless he ups his power to a heavyweight status. Zhang on other hand is a very powerful heavyweight puncher . But in the rematch if Joyce can just punch harder, improve his head movement and footwork , he surely will beat Zhang coz Zhilei conditioning is bad and after rounds 6 he loses stamina badly.
Joyce looks like a bigger Virgil Hill
Joe Joyce is so easy to hit, just stands infront with no movement , can see same in 2nd fight, unless Joyce goes wild on Zhang, no that ain't gonna happen
What do you think the result will be in the second fight? your opinion?
Anyone who watched zang fight hogovic had a good idea wat Joyce was in for
Buen campeón el 🍻 chino.. salio bueno....
"Yeah, we'll show em, Chinese boxing!"
Joyce's chin is insane
watch at 1.25 speed it's a pretty exciting fight.
Moving the head moving the torso moving the feet hitting and not getting hit are the basic of the basics in boxing, how world class boxers don't apply that?
"Upset for the ages"
LOL
Bro Zhang was an Olympic silver medalist! OLYMPIC!! Meaning the top 2 in the world!
Joyce was an Olympic silver medalist too. (Should of got gold)
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Zhang lui a martyrisé et matraquer l'oeil car il a visé aux mêmes endroits , il faut être très thecnique pour faire ça.
C'est une sacrée performance de Zhang , tout en douceur il l'a éteint.
Et joe Joyce il n'est pas facile a battre , bravo Zhang.
Why does Joyce look soo slow????
Why did Joyce throws punches like he was sparring with his grandmother?