@@Alexs_the_king348Wait for the new game where everything you know gets tossed out the window. You can't solve it because that's what it's meant to be. Unsolvable.
Personally i think that we've already solved the story of fnaf on a macro scale, as a game to game story theres not really anything that changes that story from theory to theory. In that sense I think Scott has done a fine job telling the story, as well as Poppy and Bendy. The lifespan of "new information theories" when a new game comes out lasts about the same time for all 3 series. FNaF is just unique in the fact that there's enough small details in the old games that we can come back and keep discussing those small details. Other Horror franchises tend to be more barren in that sense. More upfront about the lore important details. To use a metaphor, the FNaF franchise is a silent movie we've all seen a hundred times, we know the characters, we know the main plot. What we're doing is dubbing in dialouge to recontextualize the story in a more satisfying manner to us personally. When someone calls out a line or two that we really like, we try to work it into our own version of the dialouge. Every once in a while someone drops their own full version of the movie and we take what we like from it. Im sure most of us have several different versions of the movie that we like and swap between them.
I think I respectfully strongly disagree. I believe that with FNAF lore the devil is absolutely in the details. I feel that most of the community's theories are shown to have significant plot holes when we look at the finer things in the games. Those finer things get obscured if we move to a 'big picture' view. I also think it is possible to solve FNAF with such a finer tooth comb, but with one caveat: We need to stop theorizing about it for a few minutes. All of the grander FNAF theories make assumptions, which is their key problem. We need a bulletin board, with sticky notes and conspiracy threads everywhere. We need to itemize the objective data from each and every game first. Dates, locations, people. With zero presumptions about any of it. Only then will we have the evidence to fill in those gaps.
@@Takejiro24 I do think the books need the same treatment, but I would start by keeping them both completely separate. That would also help in showing us the connection between the two, if any.
There is a guy that went so far with the overthink that he seed that fnaf 1 animatronics aren’t possessed. He claimed that there acting like possessed because they have the mimic program and fazbear entertainment showed the the camera footage so they don’t have to program them. I won’t even try to say why it’s wrong. It’s really clear I think.
Thats why i cant wait for secret of the mimic to come out so that we can learn were he came from and what game mimic can and can't do. I just hope that once the game is out we can finally lay many of those wack mimic centric theorys to rest because im tired of those theorys that go "mimic 1 program did everything" type theorys.
@@Gigi4uyeah he maybe the one responsible for the events of hw and sb but before he didn’t exist. Scott haven’t created him yet at the point of of fnaf 1.
@@AlekthedachshundAnim I'm sure a new game would clear up the fog around if stuff from the books are canon or not. Right now between security breach and the next mainline fnaf game there is a massive gap of clear information about were the story is going and the back story of important characters. yes we did get healp wanted 2 and ruin but they both didn't progress the story much and only added more plot threads like who is the protagonists in Help wanted 2 and what plot relevance the mimic has. The books were really the only big source of potentially new info that under some interpretation could be seen as possibly relevant to the games at the time, which unsurprisingly lead to many people believing that the book are canon or relevant to the games. I personally don't think that but I don't blame people for believing that because of recent edition to the games like the mimic which only reinforced that belief. I'm going to wait to see how different the mimic is going to be in secret of the mimic because usually characters don't perfectly reflect the other contenuetys depictions like for example book Henry and Baby being very different to thire game counterparts.
@@Gigi4uthe silver eyes aren’t cannon. Fazbears frights aren’t cannon. Now the Tftpp books maybe cannon. But then there is Elenor that appears in Tftpp. So now that makes the ff books cannon. Then in one of the guide books Ela is a fusion of the original book trilogy and the ff books. Scott seed that the epilogues are cannon. What I just did probably confused you and that the book problem.
I totally agree, I really love what our fanbase can do.....but also the fact that we always overthink things.....like I just found out that pigpatch's eyes look the same as tiger rock's eyes.....and now I am kinda going insane over it even though it probably means nothing (also speak of the devil I commented on duoprocesstheory's newest short and they said that my email was probably in the spam folder and they will take a look at it (the fnafback email)
It’s too much of a mess. The story changed a hundred times. Everytime there was a new game the story changed. There’s so many details in the games that in reality mean nothing. Also with all the inconsistencies it has makes it impossible to solve.
@@blumouse8539Technically Scott admitted long ago there was 1 retcon and recently in his 2nd interview with Dawko, he’s said that the box is no longer important because the story changed/moved in a direction to where it wasn’t needed. That’s 2 confirmed scenarios when the story switched up, who knows how many more times?
@@CallmeKeyiiiScott seed he does not change the story every game he add’s more details but we have only 2 confirmed times the story changed. So your statement is wrong
Great video and can't wait for your interpretation of the timeline! Also, with the recent AftonMM confirmation from FLAF and considering that you worked pretty hard on your GabrielMM video, how do you feel?
Honestly, This comes from a dude who believes in the “Ballora is possessed by Mrs. Afton” theory… I don’t really think the story must be solved to get the context of every single story of the games. I feel like Scott decides how the story would go and what interpretation he wants for the fandom. Like yeah, I understand that FNAF can be solved but I don’t see why it must be solved if each games are going to get vague whenever new media comes out. I feel like the biggest problem with the FNAF lore is the books themselves… I’m sure the story can’t be solved because we all didn’t agree upon the Frights and Tales books if they were within the games’ continuity or not. But since things like VIP Novel and the ITP Game have huge lore bombs, I’m completely baffled that the books tell the story but not the games. The whole book debate was argued all because of the Novel Trilogy being a separate continuity and treated as parallels (which the Trilogy was the first entry of FNAF books). And things were worse when people from Reddit and Twitter started accusing the parallels and start a huge book debate that we all can’t agree upon. But I think the anniversary had ended the debate by saying the Frights and Tales lore are gonna get video game adaptations to be more accurate to the games’ lore, while the Interactive Novels are our MAIN Bookline of the FNAF lore. Thoughts on the FNAF Lore? I think people are free to interpret the story based on what they believe in. And whenever new content comes out, we’ll go back to square one to see the story with new content. I do think the story is there but sometimes, Scott might give us the FNAF lore with a Bible sized version of it. Love the video, I feel like this needs to be showed to other people as well
I'd like to think that Scott just made up certain events as the series progressed. If he didn't, then Henry would have been mentioned in more than one game.
I myself just feel like fnaf needs a reboot. I get how impossible and stupid it is. But i just feel like its a good choice at this point. For a concrete story to be written first and work from there.
how do we know if its solved or not is what we should be asking imagine if someone already guessed the lore in 2016 but no one saw his reddit post and its lost to time forever
All I'm saying is that TRTF may have had dumb stuff like super cancer and a Mafia mob boss as an antagonist... BUT AT LEAST I COULD PIECE TOGETHER IT'S STORY! As far as I'm concerned, Scott never released a document that had a full timeline of the events. Then you have weird stuff like the novels and the FNAF movie. Where do those go in the timeline? Are they even there at all? Are they reboots? I'll just assume they're reboots.
Wish you great luck in the future timeline. Just make sure you don't attract the toxic kind of theorists who get mad because their theories were proven wrong.
Obviously not, and it never will be because Scott needs merch and game. The best solution would be to remake fnaf 1-6 and remove things that are no longer lore relevant and have proper characterisation for every character
Not so short answer: yes because fnaf1 was Scott's last ditch effort as a game developer sfter years of not very successful games. This means that fnaf1 has the evidence we need in order to make sure that the killer does end up in prison.
I truly think the mimic isn't connected to Afton/Glitchtrap at all. I feel like fans just want it to be true so the 6 ending isn't made pointless. But most of the mimic=Glitchtrap theories all seem so convoluted and disjointed in trying to find any leads to try to stich to gether a theorie that on the surface looks coherent but when examined more closely has many plot holes. I hate how people treat the books not storys but instead as lore dumps that need to be picked apart for any nuggets of "lore" in them. Like they could also just be fun and interesting storys that dont want to be relevant to the game contenuety and lore. To be honest i will just wait till the next mainline fnaf game comes out before i will take any of the theories the community comes up with seriously due to the overreliance on the books for theories.
The true lore is the friends we made along the way
Short answer NO..
They need to keep it unsolvable otherwise the series will die
@@molamola9723actualy the answear is yes cuz i think i might have splved it
Facts
@@Alexs_the_king348do tell
@@Alexs_the_king348Wait for the new game where everything you know gets tossed out the window. You can't solve it because that's what it's meant to be. Unsolvable.
Personally i think that we've already solved the story of fnaf on a macro scale, as a game to game story theres not really anything that changes that story from theory to theory.
In that sense I think Scott has done a fine job telling the story, as well as Poppy and Bendy. The lifespan of "new information theories" when a new game comes out lasts about the same time for all 3 series. FNaF is just unique in the fact that there's enough small details in the old games that we can come back and keep discussing those small details. Other Horror franchises tend to be more barren in that sense. More upfront about the lore important details.
To use a metaphor, the FNaF franchise is a silent movie we've all seen a hundred times, we know the characters, we know the main plot. What we're doing is dubbing in dialouge to recontextualize the story in a more satisfying manner to us personally. When someone calls out a line or two that we really like, we try to work it into our own version of the dialouge. Every once in a while someone drops their own full version of the movie and we take what we like from it. Im sure most of us have several different versions of the movie that we like and swap between them.
Short answer: Yes and NO… because we could have actually already solved it and just not know it
I think I respectfully strongly disagree. I believe that with FNAF lore the devil is absolutely in the details. I feel that most of the community's theories are shown to have significant plot holes when we look at the finer things in the games. Those finer things get obscured if we move to a 'big picture' view. I also think it is possible to solve FNAF with such a finer tooth comb, but with one caveat: We need to stop theorizing about it for a few minutes. All of the grander FNAF theories make assumptions, which is their key problem. We need a bulletin board, with sticky notes and conspiracy threads everywhere. We need to itemize the objective data from each and every game first. Dates, locations, people. With zero presumptions about any of it. Only then will we have the evidence to fill in those gaps.
RyeToast is actually doing what you're suggesting (and had done with his "games only" timeline being a notable example to me).
@@Takejiro24 I do think the books need the same treatment, but I would start by keeping them both completely separate. That would also help in showing us the connection between the two, if any.
There is a guy that went so far with the overthink that he seed that fnaf 1 animatronics aren’t possessed. He claimed that there acting like possessed because they have the mimic program and fazbear entertainment showed the the camera footage so they don’t have to program them. I won’t even try to say why it’s wrong. It’s really clear I think.
Thats why i cant wait for secret of the mimic to come out so that we can learn were he came from and what game mimic can and can't do.
I just hope that once the game is out we can finally lay many of those wack mimic centric theorys to rest because im tired of those theorys that go "mimic 1 program did everything" type theorys.
@@Gigi4uyeah he maybe the one responsible for the events of hw and sb but before he didn’t exist. Scott haven’t created him yet at the point of of fnaf 1.
@@Gigi4ubut I’m afraid that kind of theory’s won’t stop.
@@AlekthedachshundAnim I'm sure a new game would clear up the fog around if stuff from the books are canon or not.
Right now between security breach and the next mainline fnaf game there is a massive gap of clear information about were the story is going and the back story of important characters.
yes we did get healp wanted 2 and ruin but they both didn't progress the story much and only added more plot threads like who is the protagonists in Help wanted 2 and what plot relevance the mimic has.
The books were really the only big source of potentially new info that under some interpretation could be seen as possibly relevant to the games at the time, which unsurprisingly lead to many people believing that the book are canon or relevant to the games.
I personally don't think that but I don't blame people for believing that because of recent edition to the games like the mimic which only reinforced that belief.
I'm going to wait to see how different the mimic is going to be in secret of the mimic because usually characters don't perfectly reflect the other contenuetys depictions like for example book Henry and Baby being very different to thire game counterparts.
@@Gigi4uthe silver eyes aren’t cannon. Fazbears frights aren’t cannon. Now the Tftpp books maybe cannon. But then there is Elenor that appears in Tftpp. So now that makes the ff books cannon. Then in one of the guide books Ela is a fusion of the original book trilogy and the ff books. Scott seed that the epilogues are cannon. What I just did probably confused you and that the book problem.
I totally agree, I really love what our fanbase can do.....but also the fact that we always overthink things.....like I just found out that pigpatch's eyes look the same as tiger rock's eyes.....and now I am kinda going insane over it even though it probably means nothing (also speak of the devil I commented on duoprocesstheory's newest short and they said that my email was probably in the spam folder and they will take a look at it (the fnafback email)
It’s too much of a mess. The story changed a hundred times. Everytime there was a new game the story changed. There’s so many details in the games that in reality mean nothing. Also with all the inconsistencies it has makes it impossible to solve.
@@brandonnn9543 the Story never changed it just complicated.
@@blumouse8539Technically Scott admitted long ago there was 1 retcon and recently in his 2nd interview with Dawko, he’s said that the box is no longer important because the story changed/moved in a direction to where it wasn’t needed.
That’s 2 confirmed scenarios when the story switched up, who knows how many more times?
@@CallmeKeyiiiScott seed he does not change the story every game he add’s more details but we have only 2 confirmed times the story changed. So your statement is wrong
@brandonnn9543 the same for you.
@@AlekthedachshundAnim I’ll eat your dog
Great video and can't wait for your interpretation of the timeline!
Also, with the recent AftonMM confirmation from FLAF and considering that you worked pretty hard on your GabrielMM video, how do you feel?
sad lol
@@WitheredCircle can't believe my cousin Gabriel beat the Midnight Motorist allegations 😔
Honestly, This comes from a dude who believes in the “Ballora is possessed by Mrs. Afton” theory…
I don’t really think the story must be solved to get the context of every single story of the games. I feel like Scott decides how the story would go and what interpretation he wants for the fandom. Like yeah, I understand that FNAF can be solved but I don’t see why it must be solved if each games are going to get vague whenever new media comes out. I feel like the biggest problem with the FNAF lore is the books themselves…
I’m sure the story can’t be solved because we all didn’t agree upon the Frights and Tales books if they were within the games’ continuity or not. But since things like VIP Novel and the ITP Game have huge lore bombs, I’m completely baffled that the books tell the story but not the games. The whole book debate was argued all because of the Novel Trilogy being a separate continuity and treated as parallels (which the Trilogy was the first entry of FNAF books). And things were worse when people from Reddit and Twitter started accusing the parallels and start a huge book debate that we all can’t agree upon.
But I think the anniversary had ended the debate by saying the Frights and Tales lore are gonna get video game adaptations to be more accurate to the games’ lore, while the Interactive Novels are our MAIN Bookline of the FNAF lore.
Thoughts on the FNAF Lore? I think people are free to interpret the story based on what they believe in. And whenever new content comes out, we’ll go back to square one to see the story with new content.
I do think the story is there but sometimes, Scott might give us the FNAF lore with a Bible sized version of it.
Love the video, I feel like this needs to be showed to other people as well
The truth is that Scott forgot the lore
I'd like to think that Scott just made up certain events as the series progressed. If he didn't, then Henry would have been mentioned in more than one game.
@@chainmengamingof course he did. Fnaf 2 would not exist if Scott didn’t do that
I think Dual Process Theory said the person on the couch was Mrs. Adton not Elizabeth.
I myself just feel like fnaf needs a reboot. I get how impossible and stupid it is. But i just feel like its a good choice at this point. For a concrete story to be written first and work from there.
The FNAF movie and the silver eyes were practically already reboots.
how do we know if its solved or not is what we should be asking imagine if someone already guessed the lore in 2016 but no one saw his reddit post and its lost to time forever
All I'm saying is that TRTF may have had dumb stuff like super cancer and a Mafia mob boss as an antagonist... BUT AT LEAST I COULD PIECE TOGETHER IT'S STORY! As far as I'm concerned, Scott never released a document that had a full timeline of the events.
Then you have weird stuff like the novels and the FNAF movie. Where do those go in the timeline? Are they even there at all? Are they reboots? I'll just assume they're reboots.
Wish you great luck in the future timeline.
Just make sure you don't attract the toxic kind of theorists who get mad because their theories were proven wrong.
Obviously not, and it never will be because Scott needs merch and game. The best solution would be to remake fnaf 1-6 and remove things that are no longer lore relevant and have proper characterisation for every character
Before I watch, my answer is yee, mostly, perhaps not, maybe not, mostly no, no, never, and impossible.
It’s solvable, we’ll just never know when we’ve solved it lol.
Nope and that's why we're all still so invested after a decade, it's genius
Yes
We already know the story but there are ominous details and missing links that are there to keep an aura of Mystery
As always, pure banger vids🙏
too convoluted fr cuz scott planned it to be 4 games
Not so short answer: yes because fnaf1 was Scott's last ditch effort as a game developer sfter years of not very successful games. This means that fnaf1 has the evidence we need in order to make sure that the killer does end up in prison.
I truly think the mimic isn't connected to Afton/Glitchtrap at all.
I feel like fans just want it to be true so the 6 ending isn't made pointless.
But most of the mimic=Glitchtrap theories all seem so convoluted and disjointed in trying to find any leads to try to stich to gether a theorie that on the surface looks coherent but when examined more closely has many plot holes.
I hate how people treat the books not storys but instead as lore dumps that need to be picked apart for any nuggets of "lore" in them.
Like they could also just be fun and interesting storys that dont want to be relevant to the game contenuety and lore.
To be honest i will just wait till the next mainline fnaf game comes out before i will take any of the theories the community comes up with seriously due to the overreliance on the books for theories.
No, because of the amount of retcons
nice new pfp
also nope
I mean I Sovled So i dont know
No so much theories and speculation made it one big incoherent mess
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