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I use the floating thumb technique but never quite looked at it the way you explained it; thumb resting on E, while up against B. Me being more conscious of it now will make me more effective at muting. Thx
EXCELLENT bass lesson with clear explanation! I play guitar in a band but bass is my second instrument! I played bass at a jam session and some thought I was a regular bass player!!! 😂😂😂
I've picked up a 5 string twice in my life, and it felt completely foreign to me. I'm a Bootsy guy, so I've basically decided that if 4 was enough for him (and Larry Graham), 4 was enough for me. I'm also a Les Claypool fan, which goes against my philosophy, though.
I mean, fair. A 4s is enough. That said, that 5s will speak to your soul imo. It's not inherently better, it's just an augmentation that gives you more options. That low B moves mad weight. (We can do E in universal fingering now. Lol)
Man I have had 5 strings & still have 1 but I have small fingers Every time I bought 1 I wound up trading it in for another 4 Jazz type So to compensate because I was always asked if I played a 5,I took 1 of my Moon Jazz 4 had my buddy Jimmy Coppolo file the brass nut to fit the B on it & strung it BEAD Now GHS has the Bass Boomers BEAD made specifically for 4 string Basses I have my Atelier Z strung that way now & I still have a Fender 24/5 Jazz 5 string I mess with it here & there but never played 1 on a gig So thanks for this I may now refer back to this & rediscover the 5 Thx
Gotta put this revelation I received out there. A 5 string is just a 4 string with an extra string. This one line put EVERYTHING in perspective for me. It's not so different of an instrument from the 4s. Just merely an augmentation. At least, that helps me out.
It’s just a string…to a point. The 5 does bring it’s challenges but it you’re right. It really is just a string. When I got my first five I was lucky that RUclips wasn’t really popping and I didn’t give it much thought other than “meh, extra string”
@TedTalksBass Heard and heard. Also, to be clear, I'm not saying what I said to undercut the magnitude of what the 5s brings to the table. The power of a 5s is not lost on me at all. I use it in gospel. The 5s gives MAD depth, maneuverability, and approach options that will give you a whole new world. "Just 5 extra notes" is the biggest cap I've ever heard, respectfully to anyone who subscribes to that. That's like saying "it's only 5 hundred dollar bills. What does that get me?!??" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 The main reason I say "just an extra string" is because we can overcomplicate things inadvertently sometimes. And we get lots of power with the 5s that we don't have to "work as hard for" has it looks. Just wanna make the transition simpler. It's easier to move up to a 5s when you see it's not as complex as it looks. See what I mean?
@@Six3rdycontext is key for sure. I love when people say Jaco only needed 4…well, Jaco didn’t live long enough to see what he might really do with 5. My guess is he’d have tried anything. Louis Armstrong didn’t read music…because he didn’t have access to it in his day. My suspicion is that had he had access he would have.
@TedTalksBass All very valid points. Though, I do think that the argument of the greats actually fuels both sides instead of just one. And sometimes a great can miss the mark. Buddy Rich is a good example, because he's the greatest drummer who ever lived, but he didn't have quite the best take on traditional vs matched drumming grips. Lol. (I'm a drummer as well.) I will say this tho. The 4 string bass does have an appeal to it, because it can directly force you to become better when you're past a certain point. I say this because a 4s isn't necessarily _limiting_ , but it is technically _limited_ . There's a difference. And the experienced bass players tend to realize that difference.......and go right back to the 4s so that they can use those limitations to train their skills. As an example of what I mean, just _try_ to play a 4s in Eb........... don't worry, I'll wait. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Jkjk. But you get the idea. Your approach has to change a bit (speaking from experience). And you can take those approaches _back to_ the 5s and max out what you can do on it.
It depends as TED mentioned on the genre of music. Even with BEAD. If your set list is a mix of genres, a 5ver is the way to go. Yes I do prefer a 4 string, dealing with an extra extended range means an extra string muting, however increased dynamic range for the positives Pro players will never say a 4 string is all you need. They’re flexible & still as skilful from 4, 5 & 6 string basses. They have a preference. That’s alright. The instrument serves the music & so does the player. Peace ✌🏾
@Gj8355r i whole heartedly agree. My comment was more of a joke. I started on a 5 and the stretch and neck were obstacles. I loved the low B for the style of music I play & didn't mind sacrificing the G string. As you stated, music isn't a "1 size fits all" scenario. That's the beauty of it. Peace and well wishes 2 you!
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Marvelous stuff Ted,we’re familiar with the floating thumb and now this gives a greater desire to implement it
Yes. Please do more videos on the 5 string❤. I’m a novice and started/play on a 5 string left handed Ibanez bass.
More 5 string deep dives will be at TedTalksBass.net
You’re a great bass teacher! Thanks for your efforts!
I use the floating thumb technique but never quite looked at it the way you explained it; thumb resting on E, while up against B. Me being more conscious of it now will make me more effective at muting. Thx
Oh yeah fam, using your thumb to double-mute is the cheat code! I was glad I found that in the bass book I used when I was teaching myself.
EXCELLENT bass lesson with clear explanation! I play guitar in a band but bass is my second instrument! I played bass at a jam session and some thought I was a regular bass player!!! 😂😂😂
thanks......
Yes sir!
I've picked up a 5 string twice in my life, and it felt completely foreign to me.
I'm a Bootsy guy, so I've basically decided that if 4 was enough for him (and Larry Graham), 4 was enough for me. I'm also a Les Claypool fan, which goes against my philosophy, though.
I mean, fair. A 4s is enough.
That said, that 5s will speak to your soul imo. It's not inherently better, it's just an augmentation that gives you more options.
That low B moves mad weight. (We can do E in universal fingering now. Lol)
Man I have had 5 strings & still have 1 but I have small fingers Every time I bought 1 I wound up trading it in for another 4 Jazz type So to compensate because I was always asked if I played a 5,I took 1 of my Moon Jazz 4 had my buddy Jimmy Coppolo file the brass nut to fit the B on it & strung it BEAD Now GHS has the Bass Boomers BEAD made specifically for 4 string Basses I have my Atelier Z strung that way now & I still have a Fender 24/5 Jazz 5 string I mess with it here & there but never played 1 on a gig So thanks for this I may now refer back to this & rediscover the 5 Thx
I just ordered an Altilier Z
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Gotta put this revelation I received out there.
A 5 string is just a 4 string with an extra string.
This one line put EVERYTHING in perspective for me. It's not so different of an instrument from the 4s. Just merely an augmentation.
At least, that helps me out.
It’s just a string…to a point. The 5 does bring it’s challenges but it you’re right. It really is just a string. When I got my first five I was lucky that RUclips wasn’t really popping and I didn’t give it much thought other than “meh, extra string”
@TedTalksBass Heard and heard.
Also, to be clear, I'm not saying what I said to undercut the magnitude of what the 5s brings to the table. The power of a 5s is not lost on me at all. I use it in gospel.
The 5s gives MAD depth, maneuverability, and approach options that will give you a whole new world. "Just 5 extra notes" is the biggest cap I've ever heard, respectfully to anyone who subscribes to that. That's like saying "it's only 5 hundred dollar bills. What does that get me?!??" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The main reason I say "just an extra string" is because we can overcomplicate things inadvertently sometimes. And we get lots of power with the 5s that we don't have to "work as hard for" has it looks. Just wanna make the transition simpler. It's easier to move up to a 5s when you see it's not as complex as it looks. See what I mean?
@@Six3rdywe on the same page 😊
@@Six3rdycontext is key for sure. I love when people say Jaco only needed 4…well, Jaco didn’t live long enough to see what he might really do with 5. My guess is he’d have tried anything.
Louis Armstrong didn’t read music…because he didn’t have access to it in his day. My suspicion is that had he had access he would have.
@TedTalksBass All very valid points.
Though, I do think that the argument of the greats actually fuels both sides instead of just one. And sometimes a great can miss the mark. Buddy Rich is a good example, because he's the greatest drummer who ever lived, but he didn't have quite the best take on traditional vs matched drumming grips. Lol. (I'm a drummer as well.)
I will say this tho. The 4 string bass does have an appeal to it, because it can directly force you to become better when you're past a certain point. I say this because a 4s isn't necessarily _limiting_ , but it is technically _limited_ . There's a difference. And the experienced bass players tend to realize that difference.......and go right back to the 4s so that they can use those limitations to train their skills.
As an example of what I mean, just _try_ to play a 4s in Eb........... don't worry, I'll wait. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jkjk. But you get the idea. Your approach has to change a bit (speaking from experience). And you can take those approaches _back to_ the 5s and max out what you can do on it.
4 string is all you need.
Depends on what you do. A four string isn’t all I need. I need a 4 string for some gigs, a 5 for some.
Exactly...
BEAD 😂
It depends as TED mentioned on the genre of music. Even with BEAD. If your set list is a mix of genres, a 5ver is the way to go. Yes I do prefer a 4 string, dealing with an extra extended range means an extra string muting, however increased dynamic range for the positives
Pro players will never say a 4 string is all you need. They’re flexible & still as skilful from 4, 5 & 6 string basses. They have a preference. That’s alright. The instrument serves the music & so does the player. Peace ✌🏾
@Gj8355r i whole heartedly agree. My comment was more of a joke. I started on a 5 and the stretch and neck were obstacles. I loved the low B for the style of music I play & didn't mind sacrificing the G string. As you stated, music isn't a "1 size fits all" scenario. That's the beauty of it. Peace and well wishes 2 you!
23 years 4 strings, 3 months on a 5.
I use them each for different styles but I do like the range of the 5.