@@BillHager1 same here and at the house I film at has been empty for a couple of years. It has an amazing front porch over looking the tracks. The wife said NO! 😆
I'm a locomotive engineer for BNSF and ordinarily I'll come to the comments and defend the operation of trains when commenters are wrong about something, but in this case I agree with most of you. No train should be going this fast while street running in a residential neighborhood.
@@sgt.gunslinger1532 that’s a great question because the speed limit is only 20 for vehicles and the trains do between 30 and 40 mph. I think track speed is 40 mph on that line
@@therailroadtiespiker We have one down near the port of Long Beach along McFarland St, but there's a 10mph restriction on it, plus some of the road crossings are 6.32 box 1s anyway so we have to stop frequently
@@sgt.gunslinger1532 They cannot. They have no jurisdiction over railroad operations. If they feel a train is exceeding some safe speed, they can report it to the railroad and have an internal investigation conducted, but they can't stop us for anything other than an emergency that I'm aware of. If someone has more knowledge and can correct me, I welcome it.
I can not believe the N&S is allowing this and I blame the officials of this railroad...! No wonder they have so much trouble.... I am a retired Engineer and did this for 42 years and I can tell you, I would be going through that area at restricted speed, literally creeping at no more than 10mph.... This is outrageous and the Engineers here should know better... That town should take them to court and force the N&S to slow those trains down...!
I actually got to count cars in one of your videos. Now I am happy. 70 on the first train. 75 on the 2nd. 67 on the 3rd. I also love the dash cam angle. 😮
@@therailroadtiespiker I been away for a while, so I missed the last couple. I will have to go back and check them out. Of course sometimes, just sitting back and enjoying the trains themselves is awesome too. Thanks for all you do!
It's an uneasy feeling when sat in your car & dashcam shows train coming towards you really fast, you feel a bit trapped because you can't move!😱 Wow they really book down this street it's awesome. 😮👍
As long as the inspection crew is checking the rails, what's the issue? The parked cars are beyond the yellow lines. Train's going to stay between the yellow lines.
There is something about a train going by knowing you don't dare open that left door. With the exception of the GONX gondolas that first train was probably 75% cars for ADM in Decatur IL. Some impressive High wide loads from CAT. Those are the ones that really pay the bills but if you wreck it you just bought it. On occasion Algoma Steel in Sault Ste Marie ships some plate steel SB on the old Soo Line and they actually put orange or red flags on them as some go up to a foot over on the sides that's where Old Bridge supports can pose a problem plus closer to a crew member switching
5:29 And busily working its way down the street is the garbage truck stopping and starting picking and placing those garbage pails. Must be a fun route for all concerned. 28 seconds from appearance to parallel with the garbage can.
If that ever happened just lets pray no Chemicals of any kind spill. That would be a disaster, if that happened. From the look at the train speed. It looks like it's going around 35 through here. That would be a pile up.
It's crazy how they will run hazard cars through town like that derail that would be a heck of a mess to clean up would suck couldn't get to your house for months unless you walked
It’s Amazing how Large the Loads the Railroads are capable to Safely Move across the Country. With Various Cars and Personnel to Move almost Anything. 🤔👍
Railroads have speed restrictions and meet orders when hauling wide cars . hopefully they want meet another train on single track . Them guys know where the wide spots are on double track its all taken into consideration.
@@kens.3729 You need to travel the Interstates trucks haul lots of large loads they haul large transformers just like the railroads do trucks haul wind mill blades also and the large dump trucks that haul coal in the PRB are shipped by truck they are too large to go rail.
As someone in the rigging supply industry, thankfully the one train crew dealt with tie down chains on the heavy equipment before the street running occurred. Image how much damage 1/2" or 5/8" diameter chains could do to life and property with that close proximity and speed involved - if a flailing chain at 2.5 to 4 pounds per foot were to strike an object!
Wonder how many parked cars have actually been hit cause they parked to close to the tracks.. or least side mirrors are probably a norm that have to be replaced. Lol
Great video...those long shots with the deep focus were fantastic to watch..with all the different visuals..Could you tell us how many trains a day pass there..?
Thank you so much for watching. They can have just one or two trains in a day then have six or seven. Right now they’re having a lot of the train traffic at night because of the tie gang
And I’ve taken some measurements so the max width of a train is about 10 ft 8 inches 11 feet max. I may be off a little but figure 5 ft 6 inch from center line.
I don't know about red and yellow wagons but the red and yellow rail cars carry mostly peanut hulls and shredded tires. Sometimes auto parts if the rail cats have been cleaned with down dish washing soap. Takes grease away.
I've seen enough disaster documentaries involving train derailments to have an idea as to what would happen to those neighborhoods should the worst happen. It isn't worth the cheap housing to die that way. 😓
LOL MUCH FASTER THAN LA GRANGE KENTUCKY, FOR STREET RUNNING!!!😮😮😮 DURING MY 30 YEARS TIME WITH SANTA FE MECHANICAL DEPT, I ONCE MET UP WITH AN GUY WHOSE JOB WAS WITH FIGURING CLEARANCES FOR WIDE, EXTRA HEAVY, OR UNUSUAL LOADS! AN HAIRY JOB, FOR SURE, IN THE BEST OF CIRCUMSTANCE !! KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!! 👍👍
@@therailroadtiespiker IN OTTAWA KS THERE USED TO BE 2 STREET RUN ROUTES,EAST -WEST, MISSOURI PACIFIC, OSAWATOMIE / PUEBLO MAIN LINE, AND NORTH/SOUTH AT&SF OTTAWA / TULSA OKLAHOMA, WITH THE CROSSING DIAMOND ALSO ON STREET! UNFORTUNATELY NOW ALL GONE! KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS! 👍👍
so how much "wider" is that load of caterpillars? like how much does it hang over the sides of the flat cars? I assume there's a limit of what is allowed. Excellent video production btw - would be fun to visit a town with such active street running!
Railroads use loading templates so that equipment stays within the minimum acceptable clearance of obstructions on their lines. Clearances can vary depending on the routes narrowest obstructions - these can be bridges, tunnels, structures, etc. This is really important for shippers and for interchanging loads from one railroad to another. Generally, east coast routes are more restrictive than mid west routes. Out of template loads may require special handling or routing to avoid obstacles.
The width is within the max confines of the car as set by railroad standards. Unlike trucks trains can't move over when going thru tunnels and such. If I remember correctly from my heavy equipment days it like 11 feet and you better be dead on center. We shipped a lot at maximum width. Speed in some shots appears fast but that is set by the town in most locations I know of. I know in my town there is one that is rather fast, my opinion, but normal freight train length is given only so long to clear a crossing so they roll it to that speed.
3:19 Omg how fast are they going 70? I can’t believe they go that fast on a street with houses and children possibly being outside. That’s kind of irresponsible. Usually, I thought they only go 5 miles to 10 miles an hour through areas like that.
@@AMTK90200 35 mile an hour in a tight residential area never seen that before usually I would figure trains like that would have to go slow like 10 miles an hour children play in that area imagine a derailment with oil tanks in that area. Remember that runaway train derailment when they lost their breaks and destroyed several homes and killed people. Things can happen just like that. Oil train in Canada that derailed and wiped out 1/4 of the town.
I can still remember Lac Megantic & it was almost 11 years ago, I'm not even Canadian either. I'm amazed they didn't ban trains in that area, but it probably would've been a legal nightmare.
He was some guy working on one of the neighbors car now just before the train got there they had a bump truck parked along the side of the street so I told them a train was coming soon and they moved it. They weren’t from there. Lol
No way in heck that I would own a home on that street. I too can't believe that trains go through a residential neighborhood that fast. I am a rail fan also and work in the industry.
I have seen trains running through business/industrial districts but not through residential areas like this and NOT at these speeds. I'm not certain how they rationalize that. I have watched trains run about industrial areas in Oakland and they move probably not more than 10 MPH. This is crazy. These houses must be ready to shake off of their foundations. Even a minor derailment here could be catastrophic.
When this train flies and rumbles through this neighborhood, the dishes in the kitchen cabinets are shaking and rattling themselves out of their secure places and setting themselves out on the dining room table, along with the spoons knives, forks, glasses, and paper napkins. The living room TV 📺 changes channels by itself. The photos and paintings on the walls of these homes completely turn upside down or fall on the floor every time the train barrels through down the street. Imagine sleeping at night, and after this train goes through, your bed ends up either in the backyard or front porch. 😂 This scenario belongs in a Three Stooges film 🎥 short. 😅
Only 1 of the Cats was over the edge of the flat car and not by much. Not much of a need to slow down. Definitely not over the painted line on road. It is incredible how fast they fly thru the residential area. I'd live to have a vacation house on that road. Would be in heaven a few weeks out of the year, but not living there year round.
Right down the middle of the street. Like Germany but with an American train instead of a trolley. That looks nuts in this little town. They don't have land for a street AND a set of tracks?
I think you could say the same about basically every painting. Let's start with Rembrandt and his famous painting: De Nachtwacht. Or van Gogh and his famous painting: De zonnenbloemen. Or Hieronymus Bosch (if you know him. He was born in the city i live in here in the Netherlands. He is also known as Jeroen Bosch.) One of his famous paintings: The Garden of Earthly Delights. Or even the Mona Lisa. Heck, Leonardo should not have wasted his time painting that ceiling in in the Sistine Chapel. Waste of paint in my opinion, and time. Now, i am not going to say everything we see in this video can be considered art, but there are Graffiti artists out there who make beautiful art wasting paint. You know: You could actually make the argument that life itself is a waste of energy, oxygen, resources and all the rest. But my guess is that that will not yet convince you to end it all cheaply by stepping over the edge of a cliff, or will it? So why not let people waste a bit of paint?
Interesting that because it goes down a residential street, every driveway has to have a crossbuck. I also can't imagine they're allowed to run trains through here at night.
The street used to run all the way up to crossing they took out that little section about 10 years ago. I’ll have to point that out next time. Thank you for watching
There's one on my street. It means the street doesn't connect to another street. It's either a dead end, or it ends in a roundabout that just brings you back the way you came. People might think it's a shortcut, so they put up a NO OUTLET sign to tell people it doesn't go anywhere.
@@therailroadtiespiker from what I understand the limit in a residential area is 25 mph unless posted differently. I can't believe it would be higher than that. The second train was definitely well above 25.
Nice videos, but the situation is insane. It's 2024 and you have still trains in the streets and no safety fences? In my country, The Netherlands, it's all seperated. Along the tracks are fences and walls. And in most European countries it's the same situation.
Here in America we don’t want to cut into the profits of the big companies and upset the shares holders. You know greed and profit makes the world go round. Don’t get me started…. Thank you so much for watching
Hey what street are you on, I was going to go to Google Earth and look that up That's interesting to see a street that congested with cars on both sides.
Well, I'm going to go out on a limb and say, "This doesn't help increase the property value of the houses on that street". Unless of course, you're selling to Jawtooth, Distant Signal, or The Railroad Tie Spiker. They might pay a little more for the house! LOL Fun to watch though. I grew up in New Jersey and there are a few old industrial towns that have lines like this.
I'm nowhere near as popular as these guys, but i would absolutely buy one of those homes and then host a dozen or more webcams for a channel or Virtual Railfan easily. as long as I can get something similar to what I get now where i am which is 5 Gbit Fiber, absolutely I could make that happen.
Once the engine is on outskirts heading out, may as well go ahead and speed up because that space in the middle of the road in town is currently occupied. Nobody can get in front of any of those train cars
I wonder how they ever got to lay tarmac either side of the line. I guess it must have started as a couple of dirt tracks which then got progressively widened and then tarmacked
It started as a street back in the 1840 s then the line came through in the 1860s but this was common to see it made it easier to unload rail cars back then in these rule towns.
This is a matter for the Federal Railroad Administration. Indiana has a number of places where a mainline railroad goes down the center of a street--including the South Shore commuter rail line through Michigan City, IN. But 30 MPH is absurd and unnecessary. I can't believe this has been going on forever.
30 mph is fine for most people, but there have been fatal accidents at 30 and 25 mph. Young and old sometimes have trouble being able to react, which is why many speed zones are 20 and 15 mph. I'm assuming the 30 mph zone is from 75-85 years ago. These trains are definitely rolling too hot!
Yes but they can’t stop quick enough if there’s a problem on the street and the railroad has no problem sitting on C street for hours when they’re servicing Red Gold
I have an idea, don't buy a house with train tracks in the street at your front yard. It's like someone buying a house near an airport and complaining about the noise.
I completely understand the railroad was there first, and they have the right of way, but going that fast? Street running in Chicago was mostly switching, but they moved at barely above a walking pace.
@@carlossanchez-kz4wh it was warm and muggy but I’ll take that over cold weather I was just hoping the storm would hold off and it did. It rained about 10 minutes after they came through
That fast down the middle of a residential street?? A derailment at that speed, in that area would be absolutely disastrous. I wonder if the NTSB has any ideas on this. I'd bet they don't even know about it. I suspect they're going faster than a car would be a allowed to in the same neighborhood.
Guys they just don't go through there as they please they are allowed to run track speed unless otherwise instructed once train orders or other special instructions . you'll find track speed on given sections of track in time table instructions. I won't say they don't speed they may allow them a mile or two over the speed limits. No to trains are ever made up alike if its 35 or whatever sometimes bits just hard to hold it right on the money but you let it creep 5 mph over the speed limit and you'll get sent home if your caught. And just as info management watches these videos themselves they know where they are and who's on the train and they can tell the speed of the train just by watching the film far better than you realize. As far as parking on the side of the road that's your responsibility just like its your responsibility when you cross the track. Its the exact same thing. You watch out for yourself they don't have to consider and worry about if you done your part there is a camera n the lead locomotive that records it all . they also have tapes in black boxes they can take off and review on every locomotive they can tell you mile post location and the speed you are running down to inches . they can tell throttle notch weather you used air or dynamic break. Speed amps and throttle is right on the tapes they will go out and randomly pull tapes after the end of your trip and know everything you did while you was on that train they can tell what the last crew did as well and the one before that. The cameras will reset about once a week. All that guy info you if something wasn't right the FRA has access to if they request it . I only observed all this stuff working transportation for 38 years . I can watch someone who gets a little excited on here and claim he's an engineer and can tell most of the time if he's just full of trap most of the time. When they speak of something they seen here there is a before they got to that point and an after they got there and what the train does doesn't coincide with the train handling I see going on. I don't know everything but I can spot out a lot of BS when its said. These guys are operating by time table orders and special instructions provided to them . call the FRA if you think its wrong they get enough responses like you all go on with they will go and look for themselves I've had those guys walk up on me and you would think nobody was within miles of you. There are train masters out there everyday everywhere hiding in bushes watching ever move you make. You go 5 mph over the speed limit in your car you might get a warning ticket these guys go 5 mph over they get sent home in a mans 30 year carrier if you don't get fired a couple of times you wasn't moving a train . its just that simple. Just like commercial airline there is a black box recorder recording everything that goes on. They use them in train and engine service as well.
What is the logic of putting a residential street parallel with a train line? This doesn’t exactly look like the kind of town where there isn’t any open land nearby. This does not seem like prime real estate. With all the risks involved with trains, I just don’t understand the appeal of doing this.
Great question…. Back in the 1860s before the streets were crowded with vehicles they would use street runs too load and unload goods. That’s why you see a lot of old street runs now a lot of them have been done away with over the past 50 years or so with only a few left on class 1 railroad lines they’re just dangerous.
I wonder why in the world is a railroad track running in the middle of a street? Why are people even allowed to park on that street or even better, why be allowed to build next to a railroad?
@@therailroadtiespiker Ah! Lived in Sioux Falls SD for coupla decades, big rail presence there. Currently in Temple, Texas, named after a railroad construction boss.
It's amazing they haven't had a derailment there yet with the frequency and speed of the trains. Norfolk Southern doesn't exactly have the best reputation for safe running.
Pretty sure that first train is breaking the speed limit for a residential street. Where are the traffic cops when you need them? It's blowing the branches on the tree even. Then the pan to the graveyard. You sure this isn't a preview of a new dark comedy coming to the theaters? How is this even still a thing?
Those poor people that have to live like that....... I hope they don't loose too many kids or pets ... Slow the trains down or make a different line.... what about derailment ???
One of the neighbors lost their dog this past winter he was hit by NS 122 early in the morning. It was sad he had gotten loss from the backyard. A derailment would be horrible for the whole town
I can hear the realtor saying "Oh, no, these tracks haven't been used since the '60s".
Lol
;Realtor, “1860’s.”
I don’t see the problem I’d love to have one of those houses
@@BillHager1 same here and at the house I film at has been empty for a couple of years. It has an amazing front porch over looking the tracks. The wife said NO! 😆
@@therailroadtiespiker where?!?!? I want it
I'm a locomotive engineer for BNSF and ordinarily I'll come to the comments and defend the operation of trains when commenters are wrong about something, but in this case I agree with most of you. No train should be going this fast while street running in a residential neighborhood.
Do you have any street runs on your line?
Weird question, but can a cop stop you when street running for speeding?
@@sgt.gunslinger1532 that’s a great question because the speed limit is only 20 for vehicles and the trains do between 30 and 40 mph. I think track speed is 40 mph on that line
@@therailroadtiespiker We have one down near the port of Long Beach along McFarland St, but there's a 10mph restriction on it, plus some of the road crossings are 6.32 box 1s anyway so we have to stop frequently
@@sgt.gunslinger1532 They cannot. They have no jurisdiction over railroad operations. If they feel a train is exceeding some safe speed, they can report it to the railroad and have an internal investigation conducted, but they can't stop us for anything other than an emergency that I'm aware of. If someone has more knowledge and can correct me, I welcome it.
I can not believe the N&S is allowing this and I blame the officials of this railroad...! No wonder they have so much trouble.... I am a retired Engineer and did this for 42 years and I can tell you, I would be going through that area at restricted speed, literally creeping at no more than 10mph.... This is outrageous and the Engineers here should know better... That town should take them to court and force the N&S to slow those trains down...!
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Lol
There's a difference between should, would, and will.
See this in some other countries all the time.
Then again if there rail road was there before the road, then I’d imagine they may have some priority in law?
Retired with 28 years on the RR. Glad I saw this video it make me have warm fuzzies that this is all behind me.
I actually got to count cars in one of your videos. Now I am happy. 70 on the first train. 75 on the 2nd. 67 on the 3rd. I also love the dash cam angle. 😮
The last 3 or 4 videos are car counting friendly. Lol more to come… thank you for watching
@@therailroadtiespiker I been away for a while, so I missed the last couple. I will have to go back and check them out. Of course sometimes, just sitting back and enjoying the trains themselves is awesome too.
Thanks for all you do!
@@earlschmitt884 I’ve had a lot of people request so they could count the cars.
30 mph in a residential area??? Are they nuts? Most of those blind crossings obstructed by buildings don’t even have gates
Great video Spike, Happy Father's Day to you and enjoy your day.👍👌😇
Thank you John so much for watching and happy Father’s Day
Crazy speed through a residential area!
Yes it is.
It's an uneasy feeling when sat in your car & dashcam shows train coming towards you really fast, you feel a bit trapped because you can't move!😱 Wow they really book down this street it's awesome. 😮👍
You couldn’t pay me to sit in the car. 😆 Thank the Carol for watching
@@therailroadtiespiker HA Ha 🤣
Way too fast a speed going through that street.
This is so awesome! A town named after one of the Blues brothers!
Lol
Jake: How often does the train go by.
Elwood: So often you won't even notice.
@@TheNjpiney they’re seeing about 4 trains a day but I’ve been told that could go up in the next few months.
With that cemetery next to the tracks....so much for Rest In Peace!
Lol
They have not had any complaints yet from the residents.
@@rbottomley most of the neighbors love the trains coming through.
They lost their eardrums decades ago.
3:50 can you imagine a derailment at that speed that close to homes.
Agree 👍
@@erinkstansell4246 With those lumpy rails, it's sure to happen.
Like East Palestine???? Load of hazardous goods derailed and created hell there.
Here is your chance call the FRA and report them !!!
Unbelievable, running trains that fast through a neighborhood with hazardous tankers.
Retired railroader.
It is crazy
The Wisconsin Southern runs through my back yard 60 feet from my house hauling 12 to 18 cars of ethanol every day sometimes 40 miles an hour
As long as the inspection crew is checking the rails, what's the issue? The parked cars are beyond the yellow lines. Train's going to stay between the yellow lines.
Retired railroaded ? Was you a clerk or a janitor they are all retired railroaders . oh I worked in transportation.
There are some real good train artists on this line.
Wow
Very cool 😎
I have never seen a train going through the middle of the road 👌
It’s really cool to see as a train fan thank you for watching
There is something about a train going by knowing you don't dare open that left door. With the exception of the GONX gondolas that first train was probably 75% cars for ADM in Decatur IL. Some impressive High wide loads from CAT. Those are the ones that really pay the bills but if you wreck it you just bought it. On occasion Algoma Steel in Sault Ste Marie ships some plate steel SB on the old Soo Line and they actually put orange or red flags on them as some go up to a foot over on the sides that's where Old Bridge supports can pose a problem plus closer to a crew member switching
5:29 And busily working its way down the street is the garbage truck stopping and starting picking and placing those garbage pails. Must be a fun route for all concerned. 28 seconds from appearance to parallel with the garbage can.
Could imagine how bad it would be if a train derailed in the middle on that street run? WOW! Cool Video!
It would be a big mess if they did. Thank you for watching
If that ever happened just lets pray no Chemicals of any kind spill. That would be a disaster, if that happened. From the look at the train speed. It looks like it's going around 35 through here. That would be a pile up.
It's crazy how they will run hazard cars through town like that derail that would be a heck of a mess to clean up would suck couldn't get to your house for months unless you walked
It’s Amazing how Large the Loads the Railroads are capable to Safely Move across the Country. With Various Cars and Personnel to Move almost Anything. 🤔👍
Yes it’s amazing.
They are the same loads trucks move every day.
@@csxnsRail Cars Haul Huge Generators and Other Huge Items. Tractor Trailer have a Weight Limit. Railroads Don’t have those Weight Limitations.
Railroads have speed restrictions and meet orders when hauling wide cars . hopefully they want meet another train on single track . Them guys know where the wide spots are on double track its all taken into consideration.
@@kens.3729 You need to travel the Interstates trucks haul lots of large loads they haul large transformers just like the railroads do trucks haul wind mill blades also and the large dump trucks that haul coal in the PRB are shipped by truck they are too large to go rail.
Monon/ L&N/ CSC tracks used to run down the street through the middle of Bedford Indiana. They only ran about 5 MPH. Fun tho watch.
I would have loved to see the NW that ran past the courthouse here in Kokomo Indiana I believe they stopped using that track in the late 80s
I really enjoy seeing these trains. I am hearing impaired, and CC sure does help. Can you put closed caption next time. Would be appreciated.
Let me work on that…. Trying watching it again in a day or so. Thank you for watching
As someone in the rigging supply industry, thankfully the one train crew dealt with tie down chains on the heavy equipment before the street running occurred. Image how much damage 1/2" or 5/8" diameter chains could do to life and property with that close proximity and speed involved - if a flailing chain at 2.5 to 4 pounds per foot were to strike an object!
Wonder how many parked cars have actually been hit cause they parked to close to the tracks.. or least side mirrors are probably a norm that have to be replaced. Lol
I’ve thought about that it would be interesting to know. Thank you for watching
They would only do it once, after that they would be more careful where they park.
Great video...those long shots with the deep focus were fantastic to watch..with all the different visuals..Could you tell us how many trains a day pass there..?
Thank you so much for watching. They can have just one or two trains in a day then have six or seven. Right now they’re having a lot of the train traffic at night because of the tie gang
@@therailroadtiespiker Thanks for that info..👍
Very nice that's pretty cool keep up the good work
Thank you Ron for watching
And I’ve taken some measurements so the max width of a train is about 10 ft 8 inches 11 feet max. I may be off a little but figure 5 ft 6 inch from center line.
When the traindriver listens to 'freebird' and approaches a neighborhood
does anyone know what is usually loaded in the closed wagons, the box wagons, the yellow and red ones?
I don't know about red and yellow wagons but the red and yellow rail cars carry mostly peanut hulls and shredded tires. Sometimes auto parts if the rail cats have been cleaned with down dish washing soap. Takes grease away.
What is in the tank cars with flammable placards? What came first the tracks or the houses? The second never should have been built!
Gasoline
I thought tracks were close to my house, they at least aren’t close enough that I couldn’t get out of my driveway.
Nice footage and catch on Caterpillar equipment wide loads and MOW equipment street running!🛤🚂
I waited for 5 hours and almost didn’t think I was going to get it because a storm was blowing in.
I'm reminded of Wayne's World where they were playing street hockey...."Game Off!"
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Was hoping to see the clearance of the wide load cars with camera on the road close to the track.
I did get some good shots with camera “B” and I was going to put together a video showing different angles I’ll should have it out soon.
Welcome to the world of precision railroading!
I've seen enough disaster documentaries involving train derailments to have an idea as to what would happen to those neighborhoods should the worst happen. It isn't worth the cheap housing to die that way. 😓
Yep… thank you for watching
I've seen it with my own two eyes as it happened
LOL MUCH FASTER THAN LA GRANGE KENTUCKY, FOR STREET RUNNING!!!😮😮😮
DURING MY 30 YEARS TIME WITH SANTA FE MECHANICAL DEPT, I ONCE MET UP WITH AN GUY WHOSE JOB WAS WITH FIGURING CLEARANCES FOR WIDE, EXTRA HEAVY, OR UNUSUAL LOADS!
AN HAIRY JOB, FOR SURE, IN THE BEST OF CIRCUMSTANCE !!
KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!!
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I need to get down to La Grange this summer and I want to get up to Warsaw Indiana for the street run there
@@therailroadtiespiker IN OTTAWA KS THERE USED TO BE 2 STREET RUN ROUTES,EAST -WEST, MISSOURI PACIFIC, OSAWATOMIE / PUEBLO MAIN LINE, AND NORTH/SOUTH AT&SF OTTAWA / TULSA OKLAHOMA, WITH THE CROSSING DIAMOND ALSO ON STREET!
UNFORTUNATELY NOW ALL GONE!
KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!
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Very awesome video! Extremely tight!👍😃
Thank you Timothy for watching
so how much "wider" is that load of caterpillars? like how much does it hang over the sides of the flat cars? I assume there's a limit of what is allowed. Excellent video production btw - would be fun to visit a town with such active street running!
I think they can only hang out so far that’s why some of the equipment doesn’t have the wheels on them. Thank you so much for watching
Railroads use loading templates so that equipment stays within the minimum acceptable clearance of obstructions on their lines. Clearances can vary depending on the routes narrowest obstructions - these can be bridges, tunnels, structures, etc. This is really important for shippers and for interchanging loads from one railroad to another. Generally, east coast routes are more restrictive than mid west routes. Out of template loads may require special handling or routing to avoid obstacles.
The width is within the max confines of the car as set by railroad standards. Unlike trucks trains can't move over when going thru tunnels and such. If I remember correctly from my heavy equipment days it like 11 feet and you better be dead on center. We shipped a lot at maximum width. Speed in some shots appears fast but that is set by the town in most locations I know of. I know in my town there is one that is rather fast, my opinion, but normal freight train length is given only so long to clear a crossing so they roll it to that speed.
3:19 Omg how fast are they going 70? I can’t believe they go that fast on a street with houses and children possibly being outside. That’s kind of irresponsible. Usually, I thought they only go 5 miles to 10 miles an hour through areas like that.
35 mph
@@AMTK90200 35 mile an hour in a tight residential area never seen that before usually I would figure trains like that would have to go slow like 10 miles an hour children play in that area imagine a derailment with oil tanks in that area. Remember that runaway train derailment when they lost their breaks and destroyed several homes and killed people. Things can happen just like that. Oil train in Canada that derailed and wiped out 1/4 of the town.
I can still remember Lac Megantic & it was almost 11 years ago, I'm not even Canadian either. I'm amazed they didn't ban trains in that area, but it probably would've been a legal nightmare.
Yeah you weren’t lying. Those oversized were moving! I like how the dude at 11:08 puts the penny on the track. 🤦♂️
He was some guy working on one of the neighbors car now just before the train got there they had a bump truck parked along the side of the street so I told them a train was coming soon and they moved it. They weren’t from there. Lol
@@therailroadtiespiker that’s cool that you spotted that and told him to move that. Lol 😂 🤦♂️
Great Film 🎥
Thank you for watching
No way in heck that I would own a home on that street. I too can't believe that trains go through a residential neighborhood that fast. I am a rail fan also and work in the industry.
The real king of the roads
I have seen trains running through business/industrial districts but not through residential areas like this and NOT at these speeds. I'm not certain how they rationalize that. I have watched trains run about industrial areas in Oakland and they move probably not more than 10 MPH. This is crazy. These houses must be ready to shake off of their foundations. Even a minor derailment here could be catastrophic.
When this train flies and rumbles through this neighborhood, the dishes in the kitchen cabinets are shaking and rattling themselves out of their secure places and setting themselves out on the dining room table, along with the spoons knives, forks, glasses, and paper napkins. The living room TV 📺 changes channels by itself. The photos and paintings on the walls of these homes completely turn upside down or fall on the floor every time the train barrels through down the street. Imagine sleeping at night, and after this train goes through, your bed ends up either in the backyard or front porch. 😂 This scenario belongs in a Three Stooges film 🎥 short. 😅
And to think they’ve been running a few trains in the middle of the night lately.
Only 1 of the Cats was over the edge of the flat car and not by much. Not much of a need to slow down. Definitely not over the painted line on road. It is incredible how fast they fly thru the residential area. I'd live to have a vacation house on that road. Would be in heaven a few weeks out of the year, but not living there year round.
Right down the middle of the street. Like Germany but with an American train instead of a trolley. That looks nuts in this little town. They don't have land for a street AND a set of tracks?
It’s just a 160 year old design that never got corrected because it would cut into their profit
It's amazing the amount of paint wasted on graffiti.
And that paint be high ...
That is so true, especially when it could be used for something else useful.
Some people have nothing else to do.
like what?@@curtisziegler3934
I think you could say the same about basically every painting.
Let's start with Rembrandt and his famous painting: De Nachtwacht.
Or van Gogh and his famous painting: De zonnenbloemen.
Or Hieronymus Bosch (if you know him. He was born in the city i live in here in the Netherlands. He is also known as Jeroen Bosch.)
One of his famous paintings: The Garden of Earthly Delights.
Or even the Mona Lisa.
Heck, Leonardo should not have wasted his time painting that ceiling in in the Sistine Chapel.
Waste of paint in my opinion, and time.
Now, i am not going to say everything we see in this video can be considered art, but there are Graffiti artists out there who make beautiful art wasting paint.
You know: You could actually make the argument that life itself is a waste of energy, oxygen, resources and all the rest.
But my guess is that that will not yet convince you to end it all cheaply by stepping over the edge of a cliff, or will it?
So why not let people waste a bit of paint?
Did the residential neighborhood just grow up around the railroad right of way?
No that rail line came through about 20 years after the neighborhood was built
Interesting that because it goes down a residential street, every driveway has to have a crossbuck. I also can't imagine they're allowed to run trains through here at night.
I have never seen the sign "No Outlet" where I reside. What is it in reference to? Love your community 😊
The street used to run all the way up to crossing they took out that little section about 10 years ago. I’ll have to point that out next time. Thank you for watching
There's one on my street. It means the street doesn't connect to another street. It's either a dead end, or it ends in a roundabout that just brings you back the way you came. People might think it's a shortcut, so they put up a NO OUTLET sign to tell people it doesn't go anywhere.
Hard to believe there isn't a slow order on that section of track.
Holly S aren't there speed limits for the engineers going through areas like this?
Yes and they’re doing it.
@@therailroadtiespiker from what I understand the limit in a residential area is 25 mph unless posted differently. I can't believe it would be higher than that. The second train was definitely well above 25.
@@KRich408 they do between 30 and 35 mph most street runs are only 10 mph.
Nice videos, but the situation is insane. It's 2024 and you have still trains in the streets and no safety fences? In my country, The Netherlands, it's all seperated. Along the tracks are fences and walls. And in most European countries it's the same situation.
Here in America we don’t want to cut into the profits of the big companies and upset the shares holders. You know greed and profit makes the world go round. Don’t get me started…. Thank you so much for watching
Hey what street are you on, I was going to go to Google Earth and look that up That's interesting to see a street that congested with cars on both sides.
Elwood, Indiana on “C” street
That’s a cool
Train crossing and I hope they don’t get rid of it
Is there a night curfew on these lines?
Nope they’re running NS 122 through there about 2am right now because of track work during the day
Well, I'm going to go out on a limb and say, "This doesn't help increase the property value of the houses on that street". Unless of course, you're selling to Jawtooth, Distant Signal, or The Railroad Tie Spiker. They might pay a little more for the house! LOL Fun to watch though. I grew up in New Jersey and there are a few old industrial towns that have lines like this.
There’s a few houses that are empty but the wife says he’ll NO!!! 😆
I'm nowhere near as popular as these guys, but i would absolutely buy one of those homes and then host a dozen or more webcams for a channel or Virtual Railfan easily.
as long as I can get something similar to what I get now where i am which is 5 Gbit Fiber, absolutely I could make that happen.
No way in hell would I buy a house on that street. If a train derailed bye bye house.
Is this a mainline for NS going through town?
@@Photosbyrasberry yes it’s the Frankfort line
@ Do you know if that is available on ATCS? I’ll be down in February.
@ I know the it’s a dark line from Alexandria to Frankfort Indiana. you need to look me up when you’re down here
@@therailroadtiespiker Not sure if there is really any other way to get in touch with you.
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What could possibly go wrong?
Once the engine is on outskirts heading out, may as well go ahead and speed up because that space in the middle of the road in town is currently occupied. Nobody can get in front of any of those train cars
The thing is they tend to slow down after they’re off the street
They should have red streetlights that flash the whole street, so they dont have to make so much horn noise.
5:00 Rest in peace.
I hear em skeletons shaking like mad and saying: Jeez, thanks pal.
I wonder how they ever got to lay tarmac either side of the line. I guess it must have started as a couple of dirt tracks which then got progressively widened and then tarmacked
It started as a street back in the 1840 s then the line came through in the 1860s but this was common to see it made it easier to unload rail cars back then in these rule towns.
This is a matter for the Federal Railroad Administration. Indiana has a number of places where a mainline railroad goes down the center of a street--including the South Shore commuter rail line through Michigan City, IN. But 30 MPH is absurd and unnecessary. I can't believe this has been going on forever.
This is how they’ve run through here for years.
@@therailroadtiespiker - That's remarkable. Restricted speed is most appropriate, even for a passenger train.
I noticed people set their garbage cans out for pickup. What does the garbage man do when an NS train is bearing down on him?
I’ve been there a few mornings when they just came through and with in minutes a train comes through and the trains come at anytime.
I know what the signal is for a crossing, how about for running parallel?🤔
Now that’s a good question
Does that train always come thru that fast? No that's very rare. It usually comes thru much faster.😂😅😂
@@BruceMielke-h1b it’s usually doing around 30 to 35 mph and the street speed limit for vehicles is only 20 mph. Go figure 😆
Conductor called a slow order for 25 mph . he'll prob stop.when he clears up single track if he's got a chain dragging.
30 mph is fine for most people, but there have been fatal accidents at 30 and 25 mph. Young and old sometimes have trouble being able to react, which is why many speed zones are 20 and 15 mph. I'm assuming the 30 mph zone is from 75-85 years ago. These trains are definitely rolling too hot!
And there’s 4 unprotected crossings in the three blocks it has a street run. Most street runs are 10 mph. Thank you for watching
People don't realize that if the train went slower it would block all the traffic for a lot longer. Better for it to go faster.
Yes but they can’t stop quick enough if there’s a problem on the street and the railroad has no problem sitting on C street for hours when they’re servicing Red Gold
I have an idea, don't buy a house with train tracks in the street at your front yard. It's like someone buying a house near an airport and complaining about the noise.
Or build a neighborhood near a rail yard then complain about the noise.
I have an idea, don't write disparaging remarks when you probably have no clue about the entire situation.
@@BruceMielke-h1b Beg your mommy to move you out of the neighborhood so you will stop bawling like a little baby every time the train goes by
How many flats on that train? Tyres with flat spots!
Yes it is
I completely understand the railroad was there first, and they have the right of way, but going that fast? Street running in Chicago was mostly switching, but they moved at barely above a walking pace.
But man it’s a rush just standing on the sidewalk when they go by. It’s like riding a roller coaster. Lol
Zero chance this would happen in the UK. Train lines and people are very much separated.
Not here in the states. Profit is all they care about.
When city planners needed to make the one street wider to accommodate vehicles of all types in a quiet neighborhood. 🤣
Beautiful Cats on that 123
I waited for about 5 hours to catch them coming through. They had to wait for the tie gang to finish for the day.
@@therailroadtiespiker wow I hope the weather was nice
@@carlossanchez-kz4wh it was warm and muggy but I’ll take that over cold weather I was just hoping the storm would hold off and it did. It rained about 10 minutes after they came through
@@therailroadtiespiker we get warm and muggy here in NY sometimes
Thinking about living there with children absolutely terrifies me.
Yes it does
Is the grave yard there for all the people who whipped open their doors without looking in their rear view mirrors?
Lol
This is nuts! Why is it allowed?
It just is.
This is insane! Slow the heck down NS!!!!!!
The trains run down the middle! So who lives on the OTHER-SIDE of the tracks?
@@Handle1969 people
Can't you see the news story after a derailment disaster. Railroad looking to investigate how such a thing could happen.😮
One thing os for sure. You better park next to the curb
You definitely park behind the line
And make sure you don’t throw open your car door
That fast down the middle of a residential street?? A derailment at that speed, in that area would be absolutely disastrous. I wonder if the NTSB has any ideas on this. I'd bet they don't even know about it. I suspect they're going faster than a car would be a allowed to in the same neighborhood.
Yes they are…. Cars do 20 mph and trains have a track speed of 35 mph
The TRAIN is "guided" by the tracks. The car is guided by the nut behind the wheel and may swerve at any time.
Guys they just don't go through there as they please they are allowed to run track speed unless otherwise instructed once train orders or other special instructions . you'll find track speed on given sections of track in time table instructions. I won't say they don't speed they may allow them a mile or two over the speed limits. No to trains are ever made up alike if its 35 or whatever sometimes bits just hard to hold it right on the money but you let it creep 5 mph over the speed limit and you'll get sent home if your caught. And just as info management watches these videos themselves they know where they are and who's on the train and they can tell the speed of the train just by watching the film far better than you realize. As far as parking on the side of the road that's your responsibility just like its your responsibility when you cross the track. Its the exact same thing. You watch out for yourself they don't have to consider and worry about if you done your part there is a camera n the lead locomotive that records it all . they also have tapes in black boxes they can take off and review on every locomotive they can tell you mile post location and the speed you are running down to inches . they can tell throttle notch weather you used air or dynamic break. Speed amps and throttle is right on the tapes they will go out and randomly pull tapes after the end of your trip and know everything you did while you was on that train they can tell what the last crew did as well and the one before that. The cameras will reset about once a week. All that guy info you if something wasn't right the FRA has access to if they request it . I only observed all this stuff working transportation for 38 years . I can watch someone who gets a little excited on here and claim he's an engineer and can tell most of the time if he's just full of trap most of the time. When they speak of something they seen here there is a before they got to that point and an after they got there and what the train does doesn't coincide with the train handling I see going on. I don't know everything but I can spot out a lot of BS when its said. These guys are operating by time table orders and special instructions provided to them . call the FRA if you think its wrong they get enough responses like you all go on with they will go and look for themselves I've had those guys walk up on me and you would think nobody was within miles of you. There are train masters out there everyday everywhere hiding in bushes watching ever move you make. You go 5 mph over the speed limit in your car you might get a warning ticket these guys go 5 mph over they get sent home in a mans 30 year carrier if you don't get fired a couple of times you wasn't moving a train . its just that simple. Just like commercial airline there is a black box recorder recording everything that goes on. They use them in train and engine service as well.
Pretty interesting for sure. But I'm thinking I'd find that neighborhood an interesting place to visit, but Lordy I'd hate to live there
What is the logic of putting a residential street parallel with a train line? This doesn’t exactly look like the kind of town where there isn’t any open land nearby. This does not seem like prime real estate. With all the risks involved with trains, I just don’t understand the appeal of doing this.
Great question…. Back in the 1860s before the streets were crowded with vehicles they would use street runs too load and unload goods. That’s why you see a lot of old street runs now a lot of them have been done away with over the past 50 years or so with only a few left on class 1 railroad lines they’re just dangerous.
Being a train lover, i would love to have train running in my backyard, not in the front of my door.
Lol
The speed.
This looks like a lot of accidents waiting to happen.
Close quarters, too many crossings, and a train going too fast.
Yes you can say the neighborhood used to it but one bad derailment and it’s over.
In the words of my boys jaw tooth and that guy from youtube, #dpu I see you.
Yes!!!! Lol
....And wait there is more !
@@BOATNIAGARA I really need to start saying that 😆
Yeah... the speed they run through that neighborhood is crazy. I bet the trains run through there faster than the cars are allowed to?
I’m assuming NS has the local officials of that town in their pocket.
I wonder why in the world is a railroad track running in the middle of a street? Why are people even allowed to park on that street or even better, why be allowed to build next to a railroad?
Over a hundred years ago they didn’t have vehicles filling up the street.
3:23 STRONG fast breeze! Playback sped up?
No they go through there at track speed which is 30 mph. It’s a place to railfan.
@@therailroadtiespiker Ah! Lived in Sioux Falls SD for coupla decades, big rail presence there. Currently in Temple, Texas, named after a railroad construction boss.
@@LordDustinDeWynd do you see any trains where you live now?
@@therailroadtiespiker Mostly stopped ones blocking the farm roads I'm using! 🤣🤣
@@therailroadtiespiker No, I live on a ridge south of town, rail yards up north 3 or 4 miles.
How easy would it be to derail a train on a street like this?
I’m sure it would only take hitting a car if going eastbound there’s a switch right after the crossing after the street run. It wouldn’t be pretty
It's amazing they haven't had a derailment there yet with the frequency and speed of the trains. Norfolk Southern doesn't exactly have the best reputation for safe running.
There most likely has been.
16:06 Sure would suck if those ties went up. Hopefully they will be removed promptly as that ROW crew moves on. 12 year olds being 12 you know.
Pretty sure that first train is breaking the speed limit for a residential street. Where are the traffic cops when you need them? It's blowing the branches on the tree even. Then the pan to the graveyard. You sure this isn't a preview of a new dark comedy coming to the theaters? How is this even still a thing?
The grave yard is at the end of the street run. Lol thank you for watching
Those poor people that have to live like that....... I hope they don't loose too many kids or pets ... Slow the trains down or make a different line.... what about derailment ???
One of the neighbors lost their dog this past winter he was hit by NS 122 early in the morning. It was sad he had gotten loss from the backyard. A derailment would be horrible for the whole town
А в городских положениях можно перевозить не габарит вообще обычно как я знаю его перевозят в других местах подальше от городов.