Cerdocyonina: South America's Unique Canines

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  • Опубликовано: 12 янв 2025

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  • @dr.polaris6423
    @dr.polaris6423  2 года назад +123

    Happy New Year everyone and thanks for helping the channel to reach 36K subscribers!

    • @julianshepherd2038
      @julianshepherd2038 2 года назад

      Probably get more clicks if you titled it Dogs of S America then the Latin. Not many Latins browsing the Yt for videos in English.

    • @tyrannotherium7873
      @tyrannotherium7873 2 года назад +3

      Happy new year

    • @hashemkaeraky6395
      @hashemkaeraky6395 2 года назад +3

      You deserve more than 36 k subs
      Keep up the good work
      Hope you reach 10 M subs
      😘😘😘😘😘😘😍😍😍😍😍😍👍👍❤❤

    • @connorflaherty175
      @connorflaherty175 2 года назад

      Congratulations and keep it up

    • @maozilla9149
      @maozilla9149 2 года назад +2

      happy new year

  • @HY115.
    @HY115. 2 года назад +65

    I legit didn't know that bush dogs existed I love your channel man I always learn things i never hear anywhere else keep up the amazing work man or take a break if u can afford it u deserve it man

  • @flightlesslord2688
    @flightlesslord2688 2 года назад +16

    Maned wolves are mythical creatures lol. Absolutely stunning animals. Was lucky enough to see then feeding at Yorkshire Wildlife Park. I love all dogs but these are up there as one of my favourite animals, alongside African wild dogs.
    Also damn we really took out Falkland's wolf while they were still young.

  • @robertgotschall1246
    @robertgotschall1246 2 года назад +22

    Great topic, thanks. Just one caveat about the Falklands Wolf. That they appeared during the Glacial Maximum may be significant. The Antarctic Ice Sheets could have extended that far north. But this was also the time of a huge lowering of sea level. Maps of that period show the Falkland Islands actually connected to South America by a land bridge, much like Berengia in the northern hemisphere. They would have been cut off when sea level rose.

    • @AnnaMarianne
      @AnnaMarianne Год назад

      If there was as a land bridge between the Falkland Islands and the mainland, more than just the Falkland Wolf would have colonized the islands. In the very least, there would be native rodents

  • @youregonnaattackthem
    @youregonnaattackthem 2 года назад +16

    Happy New Year, Doctor!

  • @rikallan5742
    @rikallan5742 2 года назад +4

    These videos are superb. They deliver visually and are clear and concise .

  • @joeshmoe8345
    @joeshmoe8345 2 года назад +6

    That was wonderful, I really love the Dr Polaris quality information you bring. Thanks for sharing big dog, you know we appreciate having your channel as a resource.

  • @andythegoatman694
    @andythegoatman694 2 года назад +6

    Thank you for saying every habitable continent instead of 'every continent except Antarctica' that gets old also thanks for the video these guys catch my interest

  • @slappy8941
    @slappy8941 Год назад +6

    Imagine what the animals of the Americas would look like if the continents had never been connected to Asia or each other.

    • @AnnaMarianne
      @AnnaMarianne Год назад +3

      The animals of Afro-Eurasia would look very different then as well. We would have no horses, donkeys, dogs or camels in the Old World. How would human cultures have turned up then?

  • @DraptorRonin
    @DraptorRonin 2 года назад +18

    Thank you for mentioning the Fuegian Dog! It's a shame that there are no living ones left tho...

    • @Reyma777
      @Reyma777 2 года назад +5

      It may have been systematically exterminated by colonist and missionaries. Unfortunately, European colonization efforts caused loss of artifacts, languages and other cultural aspects in Indigenous communities. Disease brought by Domestic Dogs were probably a factor in the extinction of Fuegian Dog aswell.

    • @RCSVirginia
      @RCSVirginia 2 года назад +4

      DraptorRonin
      I wonder if a controlled experiment with the Culpeo in either Chile or Argentina along the lines of Dmitry Belyayev's experiments with Silver Foxes in Russia could recreate the Fuegian Dog. The researchers could work to not just establish tameness and toleration of humans over generations, but, also, trainability and cooperation with people.

  • @jarodjohnson6630
    @jarodjohnson6630 2 года назад +4

    Happy New Year Dr.P! U never fail to delivery I love your chronological breakdowns on how the species evolve through it's predecessors in which U mention them with a brief bio. U the man

  • @TheAnimalKingdom-tq3sz
    @TheAnimalKingdom-tq3sz 2 года назад +6

    Happy New Year, Doc!

  • @nemanjastanimirovic155
    @nemanjastanimirovic155 2 года назад +6

    Well the bush dogs are my new favorite thing in the whole goddamn universe

  • @riks081
    @riks081 2 года назад +2

    Always look forward to your videos, they have evolved into a before sleep habit of mine.

  • @innovativeatavist159
    @innovativeatavist159 2 года назад +4

    Thylocenes and the Faulkland Island's wolf are my personal favorite picks for de-extinction, should we ever figure out how to actually do that and then actually go through with it.

  • @robrice7246
    @robrice7246 2 года назад +25

    So if this group of canids had North American history (evolutionary wise), would they thrive in North American habitats (especially Florida) today (more so if certain environmental and climatic changes happened differently)?

    • @Mr_G.B.
      @Mr_G.B. 8 месяцев назад

      Kinda impossible to say definitely but in my Opinion, Nah.

  • @colehalford1893
    @colehalford1893 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for another great video. Also, can we get a whole minute worth of your intro song? It’s very catchy.

  • @Neonblue84
    @Neonblue84 2 года назад +2

    haha 3:25 maned wolf+ bush dog *boop*🤗
    nice draw

  • @artkoenig9434
    @artkoenig9434 Год назад

    Thank you! Your presentation held my interest from beginning to end!

  • @CaucAsianSasquatch
    @CaucAsianSasquatch 2 года назад +7

    Thank you

  • @tyrannotherium7873
    @tyrannotherium7873 2 года назад +6

    The South American bush dog does look a little bit terrier like I always thought that they were related to the dachshund but no they are not at all

  • @ryueldragonborn4145
    @ryueldragonborn4145 2 года назад +1

    Great to see more of your stuff 👏

  • @markykid8760
    @markykid8760 7 месяцев назад

    Cool to learn about Chris O'Cyon, the maned wolf.

  • @PoshLifeforME
    @PoshLifeforME 2 года назад +3

    Great stuff yet again.

  • @robwalsh9843
    @robwalsh9843 2 года назад

    I like the roar-bark of the maned wolf. It sounds like they're roaring "WOAH"

  • @Solomon0424
    @Solomon0424 2 года назад +1

    13:07 I never knew this dog existed! Cool

  • @Dr.IanPlect
    @Dr.IanPlect 2 года назад +4

    Beware of a commenter below called Indy Reno posting nonsense taxonomy and other flawed info. He does this all the time and stubbornly ignores criticism.

  • @RCSVirginia
    @RCSVirginia 2 года назад +7

    As I posted below in reply to DraptorRonin:
    "I wonder if a controlled experiment with the Culpeo in either Chile or Argentina along the lines of Dmitry Belyayev's experiments with Silver Foxes in Russia could recreate the Fuegian Dog. The researchers could work to not just establish tameness and toleration of humans over generations, but, also, trainability and cooperation with people."

    • @N0sf3r4tuR1s3n
      @N0sf3r4tuR1s3n 6 месяцев назад +1

      I've often wondered if we could domesticate coyotes. The experiments Dr. Belyayev did with foxes are quite interesting, that's for sure- hell he not only selected for tameness but another group for aggression, genetic analysis of both groups could of course help identify genes associated with either trait.
      But your idea about applying this to the Culpeo is also quite interesting, maybe they wouldn't be entirely the same as the Fuegian Dog but close enough and they will properly fill that hole in the ecosystem. Considering that removing native species from an ecosystem is like pulling out Jenga blocks, their absence has probably caused effects that should be remedied.

    • @RCSVirginia
      @RCSVirginia 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@N0sf3r4tuR1s3n
      I cannot recall in which US state it was located, but there was an excavation of an ancient American Indian village that discovered something interesting. Amongst other items, there were found the bones of domesticated "dogs." When closely examined, it turned out that they were descended from coyotes and were not typical Indian dogs at all. So, this did happen at least once.

    • @RCSVirginia
      @RCSVirginia 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@N0sf3r4tuR1s3n
      The Culpeo, the ancestral source of the Fuegian Dog, is still extant and plays the role in the environment, hunting smaller animals, that it always has done. Recreating the Yahgan Dog would be aimed at making a totally domesticated animal. It could start with Dr. Dmitry Belyayev's selection of those with reduced flight response and move on to the ability to be trained. Achieving full domestication would be important because if these "dogs" started attacking people or other animals, the public would likely demand that they be destroyed. Done properly, they could become a symbol and source of pride for the people of Argentina and Chile, as well as the descendants of the Yahgan people themselves.

    • @N0sf3r4tuR1s3n
      @N0sf3r4tuR1s3n 6 месяцев назад

      @@RCSVirginia hmm, well I seem to remember reading in an encyclopedia about dogs years ago that South American tribes domesticated like 3 kinds of "foxes" before European settlers moved in, so the idea that coyotes haven't been domesticated, or the Yaghan dog, well they apparently did. After all, the domestication of dogs from wolves was largely based on the pack orientation of wolves and that would apply to these closely related species. And I definitely agree that Yaghan dogs would have that added protection of Chilean and Argentinan pride- they'd consider them a cultural heritage probably. Yet another win for those countries on the international stage and I'm all for it, they've accomplished some interesting things so far and this proposal would be yet another accomplishment for them.

  • @RafaCB0987
    @RafaCB0987 2 года назад +3

    Happy new year!

  • @samrizzardi2213
    @samrizzardi2213 2 года назад +4

    14:03 Wait, what? What studies are these?

    • @dr.polaris6423
      @dr.polaris6423  2 года назад +3

      I would recommend reading this article: synapsida.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-crab-eating-fox-that-wasnt.html

  • @dynojackal1911
    @dynojackal1911 2 года назад +4

    Will you be doing a video centered on Aenocyon dirus, thought to be closer to these dogs than true wolves?
    Please more Alter Earth spec zoo videos, please.

    • @Dr.IanPlect
      @Dr.IanPlect 2 года назад

      "Will you be doing a video centered on Aenocyon dirus, thought to be closer to these dogs than true wolves?"
      - 'dogs' is ok colloquially, but in this context it's plain wrong. These aren't dogs, the appropriate term is canines or canids

  • @Clearlight201
    @Clearlight201 10 месяцев назад

    My favourite fact about Bush Dogs: They're nicknamed 'Vinegar Dogs' as they mark their territories with urine which has a pungent smell similar to vinegar.

  • @eacalvert
    @eacalvert 2 года назад

    Brilliant as always

  • @thedarkmasterthedarkmaster
    @thedarkmasterthedarkmaster 2 года назад +2

    Canines for the new year

  • @cyankirkpatrick5194
    @cyankirkpatrick5194 2 года назад +4

    Watching, but just out of curiosity where just the did the Chihuahua actually come from? I know there's so many different types of them.

    • @thelaughinghyenas8465
      @thelaughinghyenas8465 2 года назад +1

      People say Chihuahua, but when you DNA test them they come out as European dogs. My guess is that there has been SUCH a flood of European dog DNA introduced into the canine genome that most indigenous DNA has been drowned forever, sadly.

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 11 месяцев назад

      Rich white girl’s purses.

  • @independentnature295
    @independentnature295 2 года назад +1

    13:22 Did he say crap-eating fox!? Ohhh ...crab

  • @remuslazar2033
    @remuslazar2033 Год назад +1

    Hello Dr Polaris

  • @mortified776
    @mortified776 2 года назад +2

    That's it, from now on Bush Dogs are Potato Foxes to me!

  • @carlorielmendez6505
    @carlorielmendez6505 Год назад +1

    This made me realize, on ground, hypercarnivores are either solitary megafauna that never reached sizes of the largest herbivores of their ecosystems, or mid-sized pack hunters.
    It seems to be the case with the seas as well like how whales are filter feeders but killer whales are pack hunters that are just a fraction of the size of baleen whales. Are there huge filter feeders during the time of Triassic til age of dinos equivalent to whales? I know back in the age of anomalocarids, the largest one seems to be a filter feeder that is niche-wise equivalent to modern whales.

  • @beastmaster0934
    @beastmaster0934 2 года назад +6

    Fun Fact: Maned wolf urine smells similarly to marijuana.

    • @longwaydown6959
      @longwaydown6959 2 года назад

      He mentions it in the video

    • @beastmaster0934
      @beastmaster0934 2 года назад

      @@longwaydown6959
      Whoops, didn’t know that.

    • @matthewwelsh294
      @matthewwelsh294 2 года назад

      I bet the stupid ass conservatives want to ban Maned Wolves then

  • @beaststattotal
    @beaststattotal 2 года назад +6

    Woo! More dog content!

  • @Neonblue84
    @Neonblue84 2 года назад +1

    and a happy new year👍

  • @sciencegravy
    @sciencegravy 2 года назад

    Can I please compose another theme song for your channel?

  • @cro-magnoncarol4017
    @cro-magnoncarol4017 2 года назад +3

    Protocyon was probably more a kin to modern day African Wild Dogs & Dholes as megafaunal-specialists.

    • @cro-magnoncarol4017
      @cro-magnoncarol4017 2 года назад +2

      @@indyreno2933 I wasn't taking about relation, I was talking about lifestyle.

    • @Dr.IanPlect
      @Dr.IanPlect 2 года назад

      @@cro-magnoncarol4017 Be aware of what this Reno parasite does; Dogmatically ignores criticism and continually posts flawed or plain made up taxonomies. It's always the same; he posts flawed taxonomy, I correct it, he ignores it and posts even more bs. Don't rely on a single word of that spewed up drivel.

    • @Dr.IanPlect
      @Dr.IanPlect 2 года назад +3

      @@indyreno2933 YET AGAIN, here's Reno posting outdated, inaccurate/made up taxonomies, this effort is among your worst mess yet.
      FOR THOSE UNAWARE, this commenter; Dogmatically ignores criticism and continually posts flawed taxonomies. It's always the same; he posts flawed taxonomy, I correct it, he ignores it and posts even more bs. I'm a PhD zoologist and detest this kind of misinformation and ignorance.

    • @zebedeemadness2672
      @zebedeemadness2672 2 года назад +1

      @@indyreno2933 You get an (F) for the use of out dated scientific names within your paper 😉.

  • @BigJFindAWay
    @BigJFindAWay 2 года назад

    I think that the Falkland wolf should be recreated by carefully over time selectively breeding maned wolves to have smaller ears, shorter legs, thicker coats, and more of a farm coloration.

  • @chheinrich8486
    @chheinrich8486 11 месяцев назад

    Before this video I didn’t knew a the species of Falkland fox had members living on the main land

  • @GrandviewKing
    @GrandviewKing 2 года назад +1

    Why are there so few large South American herbivores.. tapirs, llama and ilk, capybara .. probably an ungulate I’m missing but there isn’t much…

    • @dr.polaris6423
      @dr.polaris6423  2 года назад +1

      Because South America's once diverse megafauna perished at the end of the Pleistocene due to a mixture of climate change and hunting by humans. Of all continents, only Africa (as well as south eastern Eurasia) retained some of their original large mammals.

  • @kailawkamo1568
    @kailawkamo1568 8 месяцев назад

    BUSH DOGS ARE SO CUTE

  • @danieljohnson2349
    @danieljohnson2349 2 года назад +1

    Dr. Polaris 👍

  • @michaelturner2806
    @michaelturner2806 2 месяца назад

    It wasn't until you said they fed on crustaceans that I realized you said "craB-eating". I thought at first it was a crude way to describe the species having coprophagic tendencies. When our families merged my stepsister had a small poodle, and we couldn't keep her from "recycling" out of my cat's litterbox.

  • @xHappySnowmanx
    @xHappySnowmanx 2 года назад +2

    crap eating fox. XD. i love this channel though, just havin' a laugh

  • @bartolomeorizzo
    @bartolomeorizzo 2 года назад +1

    i wonder what the deal is with tapyrs origins tho

    • @tyrellthiel2201
      @tyrellthiel2201 2 года назад

      Diverged from the rest of the perrisodactyla (equines and rhinos) to larp as hippopotamus.

  • @MrBonners
    @MrBonners 2 года назад

    Interesting. Never thought the idea of a South American 'dog/wolf/fox' animal'. .

  • @TrajGreekFire
    @TrajGreekFire 2 года назад

    I legit wanted to request a video on the short eared dog

  • @stormevans6897
    @stormevans6897 2 года назад

    Bush dog is like a fox undergoing bearification. Similar to crabification in evolutionary terms.

  • @raphlvlogs271
    @raphlvlogs271 2 года назад +3

    Zorro just means fox in Spanish

  • @beneficent2557
    @beneficent2557 2 года назад +1

    Where does the Dire Wolf fall in this menagerie?

    • @dr.polaris6423
      @dr.polaris6423  2 года назад +2

      Dna analysis has shown that Dire Wolves were not true wolves at all, but were actually basal members of Canina.

    • @zebedeemadness2672
      @zebedeemadness2672 2 года назад

      They are a basal (primitive) member of the subtribe Canina, making there closest living relatives the African jackals of the genus (Lupulella), and not the Grey wolf of the genus (Canis) that was originally thought.

    • @zebedeemadness2672
      @zebedeemadness2672 2 года назад

      @@indyreno2933 I know you don't know what this is, but NEW that's NEW up to date evidence based on DNA data (more reliable), puts Dire dogs in the Family-Canidae, Subfamily-Caninae, Tribe-Canini, Subtribe-Canina, Genus-(Aenocyon). So thanks for your 💩🐂 info, but Kindly put it in a dark place that's behind you, you're like head lice, annoying and no body want you 😉 👋.

    • @beneficent2557
      @beneficent2557 2 года назад

      @@dr.polaris6423 Hi Dr. Polaris, have you ever heard of any modern research on the Haare Indian Dog?
      (Contemporary Sources suggested that it may have been a domesticated Coyote).

  • @laurachapple6795
    @laurachapple6795 2 года назад +5

    I love bush dogs. They look like if a bear were a wiener dog.

    • @pete4043
      @pete4043 2 года назад

      a wiener bear

  • @andythegoatman694
    @andythegoatman694 2 года назад +1

    ........have you ever opened the can of worms of the dmanisi hominins?

  • @MrBargill
    @MrBargill 2 года назад +1

    Well there werent/aren't a lot of Felids/cats in South Americal thus canids/semi-canids thrived....

    • @Dr.IanPlect
      @Dr.IanPlect 2 года назад

      "Well there werent/aren't a ot of Felids/cats in South Americal thus canids/semi-canids thrived...."
      - can you substantiate this as a causal factor?

    • @MrBargill
      @MrBargill 2 года назад

      Felidae/true cats were the cause of 40 % extinction of canid/canid forms …

    • @Dr.IanPlect
      @Dr.IanPlect 2 года назад +3

      @@MrBargill That's not substantiation and it may even be a point of contradiction!

    • @MrBargill
      @MrBargill 2 года назад

      @@Dr.IanPlect ... could be... but it has been noted by various paleontologists...also present day...there are less canids on continents that are dominated by cats...

    • @Dr.IanPlect
      @Dr.IanPlect 2 года назад

      @@MrBargill Again, this is correlation, not a substantive point of causation, nor does it address your specific claim. The picture forming here is; you just threw out this superficially plausible, yet unsubstantiated comment, and continue to waffle your way through, instead of just admitting you have no basis.

  • @ogrejd
    @ogrejd 2 года назад +1

    Man, maned wolves are freaky. Maybe it's just the pictures you used, but most of them look like bad Photoshop jobs. Take a normal fox body, stretch it out a bit, lengthen the legs - then shrink the head down to like 75%. :P

  • @tyrannotherium7873
    @tyrannotherium7873 2 года назад +1

    I bet a jaguar would not mess around with a large pack of Bush dogs

  • @arthurconrad3355
    @arthurconrad3355 Год назад

    Zorro is just the spanish word for fox lol

  • @elshebactm6769
    @elshebactm6769 2 года назад

    🤠👍🏿

  • @bijm4609
    @bijm4609 2 года назад

    Dr Polaris can you please reply to the email I sent you

  • @Huntersaurus-a4c
    @Huntersaurus-a4c 8 месяцев назад

    "cerdo" means pig/swine, so how the fuck did Cerdocyonina get this name?

  • @nicksweeney5176
    @nicksweeney5176 2 года назад +4

    Firrrrst...!!!

  • @shadetreader
    @shadetreader Год назад

    *Malvinas