Carnivora - In a World With Cats, How Do Dogs Survive?
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- Опубликовано: 29 мар 2024
- Lions and tigers and bears and walruses! Oh my! If the Carnivora is not the coolest and most diverse clade of mammals on the planet, it is certainly the clade most likely to eat you! And the thing is that from the hyena to the skunk, the fossa to the seal, if there isn't something in this clade for you, you're on the wrong channel!
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You didn’t do extinct families, but I think it’s relevant to mention that out of the 6 groups of animals to develop Saber-Teeth, 3 of them are in Feliformia.
Edit: If you did go over the extinct Nimravidae and Barbourofelidae, cats wouldn’t appear as “hagfish” as they did in the video.
Hey Clint Laidlaw, Why don't you get to think of a suggestion and creating a RUclips Videos all about the 🐺🦊🐶🐕🦮🐕🦺🐩Canine Group (Wild Dogs And Domestic Dogs)🐺🦊🐶🐕🦮🐕🦺🐩 on the next Clint's Reptiles on the next Saturday coming up next?!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍👍👍👍👍
Hey Clint Laidlaw, Why don't you get to think of a suggestion and creating a RUclips Videos all about the 🦁🐯🐅🐆🐈🐈⬛🐱Feline Group 🦁(Wild Cats, Big Cats, And Saber Toothed Cats) 🐯🐅🐆🐈🐈⬛🐱, on the next Clint's Reptiles on the next Saturday coming up next?!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍👍👍👍👍
@@HassanMohamed-rm1cbI will be harshly judging this to make sure he gets it correct. There will be no “clouded leopards are saber toothed cats” when I’m around.
I will also be closely watching to see if he gets Saber Toothed cats correct.
Doing a Phylogeny of cats would be difficult because he’d have to go over Pseudaelurus-Grade cats.
You had me rollin' (down the street stokin' niche trolls) this episode lol! Maybe the funniest video I've seen from you! Really cranked that JOKE DIAL up to eleven, today, my friend! Some good chivznet! Definitely am looking forward to the other half of it! :o)
NO WAY CLINT JUST SAID "WHAT'S UP MY NICHES" LMAOOOO
the sheer caucasity
Beat me to it.@@AngryKnees
I choked when I heard that 😂
Yeah... I totally died!😂😂😂
I love Clint. Truly a great educator and entertainer lmao
1:30 to quote Casual Geographic, "An herbivore is only as vegetarian as it's options"
Casual Geographic is awesome
That's a good way of putting it.
@@ClintsReptiles I would love to see you react to that guy. Casual Geographic has some good videos on all kinds of cats that roar and cats that purr
Very true. Diets a spectrum. And that's coming from a strict vegan who is an animal nerd. Horses be sucking up mice sometimes. 😂😂 That video still haunts me. 😂😂
I wonder what'd happen if Casual Geographic and Clint's Reptiles team up for a video?
instead of saying civets look like stretched out cats we should be saying cats look like compressed civets
I subscribed. Gimme my kitty video.
Got sucked in by amphibian compare/contrasts and then hagfish but I think evolution was what originally brought me here months ago. And now I'm looking forward to kitties
Sorry it took me so long to realize I wasn't subscribed. Your videos are great
Wait until you see Nimravids and Barbourofelids.
Ya. I want people to say that other animals are the breaking apart of a platypus instead of the platypus being a combination of other animals.
Only civets are nicer.
15:22 Clint: Nobody calls multiple meerkats MeerKitties....
Me: Until now!
Thus it has been resolved!
Let the movement begin!
My thoughts exactly!
This 😂
I will always say Mongeese.
The TikTok animal is a Jaguarundi. I think RUclips is removing my comments because they contain a link to another RUclips channel, but you can find the original trail cam footage in 4k on RUclips under "Ocho Verde Wildlife Channel" along with many other creatures crossing the same creek. The name of the video is "Handsome Jaguarundi Cat On Trail Cam - Videos of Jungle Animals". I found it by running an internet search for "Madagascar Trail Cam Fossa Creek" and subsequently "Brazil Trail Cam Jaguarundi Creek" (though, in the end, the footage was actually captured in Costa Rica).
Ya, don’t know how he ever called that a Fossa
21:03
You are the hero we need, but don’t deserve. ❤
He didn't, he said it looked similar to one. Which it objectively does.@@Wolfie54545
@@Wolfie54545 nobody's erfpect
"What's up my niches!" Needs to be the next piece of merch 😂
That would be so niche!
@@ClintsReptiles 🤣 nice
What's up my hagfish of niches!
And they diversified all of that hizzy!
I'd buy it
"If you're going to be killed and eaten by a mammal it's probably one of these guys"
Sir I do not see Hippos here.
"And eaten". But even still. I didn't think hippos would beat this entire clade.
@@ClintsReptiles do hippos not eat the people that they kill? I would assume an animal like a hippo likely isn’t very picky
They're mainly herbivores, but very territorial and quite aggressive. Beyond attacking boats that get close, they apparently raid farms and end up fighting humans for the crops.
He did only say "probably". 😆
Nope, Hippo will 100% kill you, but it won't eat you. Pure herbivores. They kill you because they're extremely territorial and aggressive, and they can. Hippos are like FINISH HIM. They look at you and see no hunger, but hatred. They absolutely WANT you dead.
They'll kill you to get you out of their space, and probably save your body for the crocodiles, who WILL eat a body floating in the water.
Just stay out of the river. 😂
Got to the part where Clint said Felidae are intelligent, turned to my cats and said "Hear that? You are supposed to be smart," and one of them promptly licked the door.
I can not imagine a more perfect situation of events
😂
It is actually trying to play dumb. They understood you and proceeded to do exactly something that you would find dumb.
Cats' intelligence is wild, they can act like the most clueless of dimwits then all of a sudden surprise you by figuring out stuff they have no business to whilst you were not looking.
I'm sure them being dumb is just a ploy so that we lower our guard (that or they need to give their braincells a few days to recharge after every smart action)
It just outsmarted you, as ... you didn't get the point in licking the door. Don't blame it for being smarter than me. 😂
"what's up my niches" caught me so off guard I nearly spat out my quiche 😂😂😂😂
Clint. You owe me a quiche.
I wasnt ready 😂
i choked on my crumpet
we deserve compensation
I had walked into the other room with my headset on and stopped what I was doing to come back in, rewind, and make sure I heard that right 😂
I hope you pronounce "quiche" like "kwitch"
@@Taschenschieber I will now.
You are my Saturday morning cartoons.
I'm 38 and I watch Clint on Saturday mornings in bed and get excited. I just have black coffee instead of cereal.
Housecats are kind of a fascinating case. The relationship between humans and cats is one of the most purely mutualist in the anthrosphere. Humans gain pest control, the cats, while people usually think they gain food, actually gain the security of being admitted into the territory of the most aggressively territorial vertebrate on the planet, while historically neither really gave up anything. Food isn't really an issue for housecats, they're supreme generalist small predators and finding prey really isn't that much of a problem for them, but having the things that prey on them held at bay by the almost Hymenopteran territorial aggression that H. Sapiens manifest in larger groups is an _immense_ benefit.
That's an amazing take I'd never considered. I'd always heard/assumed that as agriculture developed, rodents came for the grain stores and cats came for the rodents, then just stuck around. But there undeniably is an advantage of being in the good graces of a territorial, aggressive, and capable species. Cats deal with the vermin that we're too big to effectively handle, and we deal with vermin big enough to threaten both of us.
Dogs may be Man’s best friend, but cats are Man’s coolest neighbor.
In the regions where cats originally "domesticated" themselves, there's an even better reason for us to appreciate their company. I'd have a huge love of any animal that kept scorpions and venomous snakes away from the places where my children play
They are also one of the largest invasive species in the world.
@@Nutmeg142 Cats or humans? An argument could be made for either.
I'm sorry but the plural of mongoose is polygeese.
This should have more likes
"The hagfishes of mongooses" is a quote i want embroidered on my bathroom wall
That clip of the tiger attacking the man on the elephant is absolute nightmare fuel.
For some eye bleach check out Michael Jamison's channel. He's been caring for tigers (among many other animals) at his home in South Africa, and listening to him talk is really relaxing
you should see the one of a tiger chasing a guy on a motorbike
@@thewerewolfofwaggawagga8818
Saw that a day or two back. A YT short I think from Thailand? Terrifying.
People should also remember a certain pugilist MikeT hugging a large tiger & what it did to someone else ( less pugilistically proportioned ?) some time later! Not that even Mr Tyson could have stood much of a chance if it had turned on him back then.
Absolutely
Yes, terrifying. Reminds me of the tiger attack in the movie, Apocalypse Now. Incredible animals which deserve fear, respect and preservation.
"This is a panda! It's a bear. And this is a panda! It's not a bear."
That was so funny I had to run it back twice just to watch it again, I was laughing so hard! 😂🤣😂🤣
A group of my friends went camping once and we had a carrot cake. A piece of cake was left on the plate and a civit started approaching it like it was stalking prey. It was so cute - its little ears, the serious way it was stalking the cake etc. - we were all cooing. Then suddenly it barred its teeth and jumped on the cake, claws out. It was the only real life jump scare I have ever had.
Edit: now I don't know if it was a civit or not. It was in the Western Cape and it was a little mongoose-cat thing with round ears and spots.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genet_(animal) :) , an amazing animal, a rare find in the western cape, consider your very self lucky :)
Keep 'Em Seperated... and there goes a nice mouthful of coffee right out my nose. God love a geek! LOL!
Glad I'm not the only one. 🤙
@@F_ERAL 🤙
This is the third place I've heard that line in as many days
@@liambohl And we all know your only hobby, besides imitating coprilytes, is to harass random people on social media. Not gonna spoil my day.
Come out and play
I remember interning at a zoo when I was in highschool and whenever people would ask me about “black panthers” I’d have to prepare myself to explain “that could basically mean any big cat that’s melanistic”.
People generally weren’t too happy with that explanation
Wait until you tell them Cougars and Cheetahs aren’t big cats but Clouded Leopards are.
What was the question?
Yeah, it is interesting to try and explain
Honestly clint i love the longer phylogeny videos, I actually understand it when you explain everything
A really cool thing about hyenas is the fact, that there are African villages that throw out their leftovers to attract Hyaenas to the outskirts. The hyaenas in turn hold lions and especially leopards at bay, keeping the village safe.
@12:19, “What’s up my niches”. OMG. Instant cringe, and instant like. Well done, sir. Well done.
The bifecta!
Clint: No one calles them Merekitties
Me: I am now 😂
My work here is done!
"What's up my niches! And they diversified all over that hizzy" oof
You will not find whiter white people than Utah white people. Maybe with the exception of the midwest??
i thought he would say something else after wassup my ni-
I enjoy the fact that these videos always consist of something like 10-15% roasting of morphology, by air time.
I love that I'm getting etymology lessons from a biologist. This is why Clint is a treasure.
Sincerely, an English major
I have a question
Niche is viewed as an unadapted borrowing from French (this is just what Google says), meaning it hasn't been conformed to the target language of English
Wouldn't this mean that the initial pronunciation of "nitch" *was* incorrect and should have been "neesh"? Obviously now it isn't incorrect
As an example, schadenfreude is an unadapted borrowing from German, and in English it's still pronounced like the German word
@@imlivinlikelarry6672 technically both would be considered correct in English, as when borrowing words from other languages it was common to "anglosize" (pretty sure I'm spelling that wrong 😂) them. So, either would work.
If it was an etymology lesson he would have taught us that English got the word "niche" from French, and that it would have sounded different from how he says it in both languages at the time, and that French got it from other Romance languages and it's ultimate origin was Latin, nidus, which also didn't sound like the way he says it. Love Clint, but what he gave was an explanation for his pronunciation, he did not touch on the etymology of the word, and his argument for how it was historically pronounced in English is without a solid foundation.
@@imlivinlikelarry6672 It is morphologically adapted though. So the only sense in which it's unadapted would be the pronunciation, in which case /niʃ/ is a more recent unadapted borrowing event
@@Lowlandlord “got it from other Romance languages” LOL, you mean inherited it from its ancestors. What does that have to do with anything though?
"What's up my niches!" was so jarring coming from clint that i can't help but respect it
Clint your passion and enthusiasm not only for educating people, but especially when talking about animals. I always love seeing a new video from you, every time I learn something new and that's pretty neat
Oh Clint. The Offspring reference made me spit out my drink. And the outtakes are so funny too. love love love from Canada
I read the comments so I saw the “what’s up my niches” coming but that delivery still made me guffaw. Will have to work that into daily conversation somehow
SAME
The eyelids of all French speakers watching this video: *twiche*
Also super excited for all the carnivoran content! Looking forward to the caniforms!
*tweesh*
I have met some extremely friendly cats, like one who would meow incessantly until they got petted.
Yeah, my niece had one of those. She always referred to her as "my catdog". 😄
Yeh they're a rarity but I've seen cats straight up playing fetch, swimming, going for walks with the owner (not on a leash) etc. etc
I guess with the right genetics and enough environmental pressure you can see how they're similar.
So much information in this one!
I like that each opposite side produced an animal that became an excellent house pet 🐶🐱
I'm from Brazil 🇧🇷 and when I saw this video here on the channel I immediately thought about Jaguarundi, I thought "this isn't a fossa" but I still had doubts
I’m listening to this while feeding my household caniformae and my feliformae.
I think that the clades Canidae (dogs), Mustelidae (weasels) and the Felidae (cats) all deserve to get their own individual phylogeny videos especially the cats!
It's also funny how dogs are actually the "hagfish" of the Caniformia clade considering that it was clearly named after them! 😂😂
Actually, there is no most basal extant family of the suborders Caniformia or Feliformia, both are actually split into infraorders, with the infraorders of Caniformia being Cynopsia and Galopsia and the infraorders of Feliformia being Aeluropsia and Crocutopsia, the Cynopsia infraorder is split into the parvorders Eufissipedia and Pinnipedia with the former being further split into the superfamilies Canoidea and Ursoidea and the latter being further split into the superfamilies Phocoidea and Otarioidea, within the Eufissipedia parvorder, the Canoidea superfamily contains the dogs of the extant family Canidae and their closest extinct relatives the parictids, which constitute the family Parictidae, whereas the Ursoidea superfamily contains the extant families Ursidae (Bears) and Ailuropodidae (Giant Panda and Fossil Relatives) and the extinct families Hemicyonidae and Ursavidae, within the Pinnipedia parvorder, the Phocoidea superfamily contains the extant families Phocidae (Seals) and Cystophoridae (Hooded Seal and Elephant Seals), whereas the Otarioidea superfamily contains the extant families Otariidae (Sea Lions and Fur Seals) and Odobenidae (Walrus and Fossil Relatives), the Galopsia infraorder is split into the superfamilies Procyonoidea and Musteloidea, the former is constituted by the extant families Mephitidae (Skunks and Stink Badgers), Procyonidae (Raccoons and Bassarisks), Ailuridae (Red Panda and Fossil Relatives), and Nasuidae (Coatis, Kinkajou, Olingos, and Olinguito) and the latter is split into the families Melidae (Badgers), Mustelidae (Weasels, Ferrets, and Minks), Lutridae (Otters), and Ictonychidae (Zorillas, Muishund, Shulang, Huro, Grisons, Wolverine, Tayra, and Martens), both superfamilies are very different and not closely related, which is why the Galopsia infraorder is also split into the parvorders Mesopalmata for the superfamily Procyonoidea and fossil taxa more closely related to procyonoids than to musteloids and Parapalmata for the superfamily Musteloidea and fossil taxa more closely related to musteloids than to procyonoids, the Aeluropsia infraorder contains the extinct superfamily Dinictidoidea and the extant superfamily Feloidea, the Dinictidoidea superfamily includes the extinct families Hoplophoneidae and Dinictididae while the Feloidea superfamily contains the cats of the extant family Felidae and their closest extinct relatives of the family Barbourofelidae, which makes cats the only extant family of both the superfamily Feloidea and the infraorder Aeluropsia following the extinctions of the taxa Barbourofelidae and Dinictidoidea, and the Crocutopsia infraorder contains all of the more superficially caniform-like feliforms and is split into the superfamilies Hyaenoidea and Viverroidea, the Hyaenoidea superfamily contains the extant families Protelidae (Aardwolf and Fossil Relatives) and Hyaenidae (Hyenas) and the extinct families Lophocyonidae and Percrocutidae while the Viverroidea superfamily contains the extant families Nandiniidae (Feripaka and Fossil Relatives), Prionodontidae (Linsangs and Fossil Relatives), Poianidae (Oyans and Fossil Relatives), Genettidae (Genets and Fossil Relatives), Viverridae (Civets), Herpestidae (Mongooses), and Eupleridae (Malagasy Carnivorans) and the extinct family Palaeogalidae, the extinct carnivoran families Amphicyonidae and Nimravidae are the most basal families of the suborders Caniformia and Feliformia respectively and do not fall under any of their respective infraorders.
@@indyreno2933 All of that information is incorrect.
@TheLeopardSeal-kq4fx, no it is not.
@@indyreno2933 Did you not see the phylogeny of the caniforms he had on the screen? It showed that the Canids (dogs) are actually the least related among all caniforms with all of the other caniforms being more closely related to each other than to dogs themselves.
@@indyreno2933 Provide sources for your claims please.
Carnivora is probably my favorite order of mammals. I'm so excited to see an episode on them!
About seven years ago I visited the Natural History Museum in London, but in my attempt to escape large groups of school children (please kids, learn all there is! It's just very noisey for me
that's my favourite museum in the world!
Panda: I'm a bear ... I'm not a bear ... wait, I'm a bear again! Yay?
That clip of the tiger attack puts into perspective why conservation of what species we cherish isn’t exactly as big in the areas the species actually live
Yup. First world issue
Oddly enough, India (where the clip is from) for the most part respect tigers immensely and have been exemplary in restoring their numbers over the past few decades. Tigers hold a high place in many Indian cultures. Obviously there are still challenges but the outlook for large wildlife in India is not as bleak as many other places.
Just started watching but I will be watching closely to see if you get cats correct.
Clint: There is a cat that functions close to a Hyena.
Homotherium: Ayyyy-!
Clint: Cheetah.
Homotherium:
Homotherium: quit your lion!
Why is Clint so devilishly happy about "if you're going to get eaten by x group its going to be from these guys" initiate broad smile
9:40 The range of the Striped Hyena very much extends into Asia, as far east as India.
13:45 In fact, in practically all media in which I’ve come across Fossa fossana (a confusing scientific name, I might add) with the exception of Wikipedia, its name is not “Malagasy Civet”, but “Fanaloka”.
Similarly, "feripaka" is now the correct name for Nandinia binotata, "zorilla" is the correct name for all in the genus Ictonyx, "muishund" is the correct name for Poecilogale albinucha, "shulang" is the correct name for Vormela peregusna, "huro" is the correct name for Lyncodon patagonicus, and "vontsira" is the correct name for all in the subfamily Galidiinae.
I’ve seen a few separate sites give Fossa fossana the common name Malagasy Civet. Animal Diversity Web is probably the most notable. I mean so many animals have multiple common names that are, and can be, used interchangeably. I mean Malagasy Civet isn’t even the only common usage name for Fossa fossana that has civet in it.
@azurelegends2696, except because there are no civets and mongooses in Madagascar, Fossa fossana is more correctly referred to as a "fanaloka" and "vontsira" is the correct name for all members of the subfamily Galidiinae, the fanaloka (Fossa fossana) is not a civet because it is not part of the family Viverridae and vontsiras (subfamily Galidiinae) are not mongooses because they are not part of the family Herpestidae.
@@indyreno2933 “Correctness” when it comes to common names is an interesting subject. There aren’t the same parameters or level of rigidity for common names that there are for scientific names. Common names don’t have to be unique or show the actual relationship between species. Common names just originate from common usage, and calling something a “Malagasy Civet” doesn’t mean that it is truly a civet either. It can just mean that the animal is visually similar to a civet but is from Madagascar. I don’t think that a standard of correctness for common names should be heavily enforced when scientific names already exist.
@@indyreno2933 What you are saying is undeniably true. I am just saying that not all common names make phylogenetic sense.
Learning that my favorite animal my Punk Kittens (Skunks) are actually more Canine than Feline is kind of crazy to me after all this time calling them kittens, I love learning about life!
Time to start calling them Punk Puppies?
15:23 they really should be called merekitties.
Clint , only three of the four hyenas are exclusively found in Africa. Striped hyenas are found in parts of Asia and the Middle East too
The Middle East is a part of Asia.
Between 'what's up my niches' and quoting The Offspring, Clint is becoming my new favorite youtuber.
"They were like 'what's up my niches, and they diversified all over that izzy!"
😂
"They diversified all over that hizzy" 😂
Omg Sumatran tigers are one of my all time favourite animals! Please please do a deep dive video into the felidae fam and give them a shout out, they need more love ❤
I absolutely love that this channel has pivoted more towards taxonomy and biology. This is the good stuff, keep it up!
I’ve always pronounced niche as “nitch” when it’s a noun and “neesh” when it’s an adjective.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who does this.
07:40 No idea why but using pensive Clint as the human standard for size comparison got a good chuckle out of me
I am a factory worker. But one could call me the Hag Fish of factory workers.
I looove cats and your videos that are formatted this way where you show the phylogenetic tree of different animals are my absolute favorite videos of yours! Which means I've probably watched this video 6 times these 10 days since you posted this. This is so much fun! And oh do I feel like the biggest nerd after writing this comment... proud nerd!
10:17 ive only ever said neesh but this stock photo has me seriously reconsidering things. i cant be this bereted gentleman
Wonderful! As usual, your enthusiasm is infectious and your content is spot on.
Canines are generally smarter and way more effective at working in groups that felines are (lions do work in groups yeah, but they are the only ones and not nearly as effective as wild dogs that live in the same ecosystem) , that's mainly why.
Did you just say Canids are smarter than Felids? I don’t think that can be said.
Cats are overpowered. They used to be much more the top predators when the Machairdonts were still around.
@@Wolfie54545 I'm not saying felines are dumb by any means, because they certainly aren't, but yes, most canids are smarter than felines. That's basically how they can thrive in the same echosystem as bigger felids, that's why Dohles can live near tigers and hold their ground as species there and even having a higher percentage at catching prey than leopards and tigers on mostly the same prey.
They are not OP at almost anything but smarts and teamplay and using both together.
@@Wolfie54545 that's also why most predators actually fear us when they can easily kill us 1v1, we are way smarter, we use guns and stuff to compensante being underpowered on everything but stamina and brains
Social interaction elevates the intellect of some species. For example, even if not as successful as canines. No other feline is more intelligent than a lion, and anyone who knows the tactics that lions know how to employ knows this, unlike their relatives, they go beyond just ambushing, this is their difference.
This guy is really a great science communicator.
Always fun, always packed full of information I didn't know.
Love this channel.
YES! I've been waiting for this video, thanks Clint!
Actually, Chiroptera is the clade containing most carnivorous mammal species. Technically correct, which is the best kind of correct.
I agree with your point.
😀
Mammalia is the clade containing the most carnivorous mammals. Even more technically, and therefore even bester.
@@tulliusexmisc2191 You win!
The jaguarundi's closest relative is its cousin the cougar/puma, which shares the crown of being the biggest kitty that can purr with their next closest relative, the cheetah! Big cats (Panthera) canNOT purr and can roar instead (but what is a roar but a very gruff meow? Similarly, the small cats - yes, even cougars and cheetahs - canNOT roar. Intact females will yowl piercingly loudly when they are in heat and keep you up all night long however as they cry out for boyfriends.
Big cats are not defined by the genus Panthera, they are actually defined by the tribe Pantherini as a whole, you seem to forget that cheetahs (genus Acinonyx), pumas (Puma concolor), jaguarundis (Herpailurus yagouaroundi), and bohebaos (genus Neofelis) are big cats, also, the tiger, ounce, and jaguar do not belong to the Panthera genus anymore because they are all more closely related to the bohebaos (genus Neofelis) than they are to the leopard and lion, the ounce and tiger both now constitute the genus Uncia while the jaguar is the only surviving member of the genus Jaguarius, leaving the leopard and lion as the only two extant members of the Panthera genus.
@@indyreno2933 None of this is true.
“Big cat” are the subfamily Pantherinae, which only includes Panthera and Neofelis (Clouded Leopards) alive. Cougars, Cheetahs, and Herpailurus are all in the subfamily Felinae. They are small cats.
Also no, Panthera includes Lions, Tigers, Leopards, Snow Leopards, and Jaguars. None of those other Genera have been valid in decades.
You have spread misinformation on every single comment you reply to.
@Wolfie54545, also, there is no such thing as a snow leopard, the correct name for Uncia uncia is "ounce" and there are no such things as "clouded leopards", the correct name for species in the genus Neofelis is "bohebao", Panthera pardus is the only cat that is truly called a leopard.
@@indyreno2933of course "snow leopards" exist. That's just the common name for _P. uncia._ You can't just declare that a common name is wrong or doesn't exist. That's not how common names work.
And I can't find any source for you claim that tigers have been moved from _Panthera_ to _Uncia._ Just the reverse (snow leopards moving to _Panthera_ ).
@iapetusmccool, there are now twenty extant genera of cats, also, the word "leopard" refers exclusively to Panthera pardus, therefore there are no such things as either a snow leopard or a clouded leopard, Uncia uncia is more correctly referred to as an "ounce", while members of the genus Neofelis are more correctly referred to as "bohebaos", this is because ounces and bohebaos are not leopards, the Panthera genus now only includes the leopard and lion, while the tiger and ounce are both moved to the genus Uncia and the jaguar is treated as the only extant member of the genus Jaguarius, both genera are more closely related to bohebaos (genus Neofelis) than they are to Panthera, with Jaguarius being the sister genus to the bohebaos (genus Neofelis), therefore, there are now twenty extant genera of cats.
Lmao, I appreciated your Offspring joke there at the end 😂
At about 9:35 Clint says Hyenas are found only in Africa, however the striped Hyena’s range while partly in Africa also includes a large part of the Middle East even as far as Iran, Pakistan, and Northern India. Great video though I love your channel ^-^.
If not friends, why friend shaped??
A Caniform video later this month? That's tomorrow!
Aye, there's not much month left.
I have wanted this exact video for so long. Thank you!! THANK YOUUUUU!!
3 things: this was NOT too long! I fully believe we've been domesticated by cats when my kitty (adult cat, but has all the trappings of babies that us humans cant get enough of) runs to lay in front of me to "attack" me with her cuteness... and finally, your cheerful pronouncement that you are probably wrong, was a breath of fresh air and should be embraced by all people!
Not only that, but it's possible that early wheat/barley agriculture would not have been successful without cats to keep down rodent populations.
Watching the chart, I noticed the carniformia has members that took to the sea. So why didn't Feliformia do the same?
Always love your work. Kudos to Clint and the team!
Definitely a jaguarundi. Also, red pandas have been really fun to study, especially behavioural observations. They're quite cat-like, especially captive red pandas that have direct interactions with their keepers. The way they watch each other also carries that feline awkwardness of "What's going on over there?" Sleeping and eating habits too
I love this channel, I love your vids, I could binge watch the whole phylogeny playlist every day, but even I felt kinda baited by the two part thing
The striped hyena still lives in Asia
It used to range in to Southeastern Europe in historic times, AFAIK.
Yeah he got it slightly wrong. He was referring to the larger "cave hyenas" but they didn't die out until their preferred megafauna prey species became scarce.
Wolves never became "top dog" until AFTER the big hyenas died out, filling in the niche when Eurasia favored smaller, lighter builds. It just so happens that was around the time hominids took over Eurasia too.
You make Saturday mornings awesome, thank you!
Your videos bring me so much joy. Thank you for your channel and letting me scratch that learning itch, even as an adult with a career that has nothing to do with biology or zoology.
CARNIVORANS LETSGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Slight correction on caniforms taking over Eurasia; bone crushing hyenas and other large predators died off when megafauna prey species became scarce, not when smaller N. American predators came in. Wolves of the time never became "top dog" until hominids swept through Eurasia.
Smaller caniforms just happened to be in the right place when Eurasia favored smaller animals. Even Gray Wolves "filled in" where Dire "Wolves" died out AFTER the megafauna became scarce, not before.
I nearly did a spit take when "what up my niches?" hit 😂.
This has become one of my favorite RUclips channels. Love the upbeat vibe
We are the knights who say "niches"!
When he said "WHATS UP MY NICHES" I choked on my drink 😭😭😭🤣
12:53 I happily keep shouting out "Fossa!"
12:18, "whats up my niches" lol🤣
"WHAT'S UP MY NICHES!" OMG that's so good.
Quite ironic that red "pandas" are more closely related pinnipeds than to true bears lol
We learned in the bear video that red pandas are the original pandas.
Actually, both bears and pinnipeds are more closely related to dogs than they are to the red panda.
@@indyreno2933 no, that's incorrect. Pinnipeds are the Sister group of Musteloidea (which the red panda belongs). The Sister group of Pinnipeds and Musteloidea are the true bears and hemicyonidae. And since Musteloidea and Pinnipeds shared a common ancestor more recently than true bears and canids, which means that Musteloidea are more closely related to Pinnipeds than to the other clades of Caniformes. Canids and Bears are basically the hagfish to Musteloidea.
@wizardblizzardgaming4460, nope, none of the extant families of carnivorans are the most basal within their two suborders, instead, carnivorans are now officially split into four infraorders based on morphology and morphology alone, which are the infraorders Cynopsia, Galopsia, Aeluropsia, and Crocutopsia, the Cynopsia infraorder is split into the parvorders Eufissipedia and Pinnipedia with the former being further split into the superfamilies Canoidea and Ursoidea and the latter being further split into the superfamilies Phocoidea and Otarioidea, within the Eufissipedia parvorder, the Canoidea superfamily contains the dogs of the extant family Canidae and their closest extinct relatives the parictids, which constitute the family Parictidae, whereas the Ursoidea superfamily contains the extant families Ursidae (Bears) and Ailuropodidae (Giant Panda and Fossil Relatives) and the extinct families Hemicyonidae and Ursavidae, within the Pinnipedia parvorder, the Phocoidea superfamily contains the extant families Phocidae (Seals) and Cystophoridae (Hooded Seal and Elephant Seals), whereas the Otarioidea superfamily contains the extant families Otariidae (Sea Lions and Fur Seals) and Odobenidae (Walrus and Fossil Relatives), the Galopsia infraorder is split into the superfamilies Procyonoidea and Musteloidea, the former is constituted by the extant families Mephitidae (Skunks and Stink Badgers), Procyonidae (Raccoons and Bassarisks), Ailuridae (Red Panda and Fossil Relatives), and Nasuidae (Coatis, Kinkajou, Olingos, and Olinguito) and the latter is split into the families Melidae (Badgers), Mustelidae (Weasels, Ferrets, and Minks), Lutridae (Otters), and Ictonychidae (Zorillas, Muishund, Shulang, Huro, Grisons, Wolverine, Tayra, and Martens), both superfamilies are very different and not closely related, which is why the Galopsia infraorder is also split into the parvorders Mesopalmata for the superfamily Procyonoidea and fossil taxa more closely related to procyonoids than to musteloids and Parapalmata for the superfamily Musteloidea and fossil taxa more closely related to musteloids than to procyonoids, the Aeluropsia infraorder contains the extinct superfamily Dinictidoidea and the extant superfamily Feloidea, the Dinictidoidea superfamily includes the extinct families Hoplophoneidae and Dinictididae while the Feloidea superfamily contains the cats of the extant family Felidae and their closest extinct relatives of the family Barbourofelidae, which makes cats the only extant family of both the superfamily Feloidea and the infraorder Aeluropsia following the extinctions of the taxa Barbourofelidae and Dinictidoidea, and the Crocutopsia infraorder contains all of the more superficially caniform-like feliforms and is split into the superfamilies Hyaenoidea and Viverroidea, the Hyaenoidea superfamily contains the extant families Protelidae (Aardwolf and Fossil Relatives) and Hyaenidae (Hyenas) and the extinct families Lophocyonidae and Percrocutidae while the Viverroidea superfamily contains the extant families Nandiniidae (Feripaka and Fossil Relatives), Prionodontidae (Linsangs and Fossil Relatives), Poianidae (Oyans and Fossil Relatives), Genettidae (Genets and Fossil Relatives), Viverridae (Civets), Herpestidae (Mongooses), and Eupleridae (Malagasy Carnivorans) and the extinct family Palaeogalidae, the extinct carnivoran families Amphicyonidae and Nimravidae are the most basal families of the suborders Caniformia and Feliformia respectively and do not fall under any of their respective infraorders.
You can't do a phylogeny on morphology alone, since convergent evolution can result in very similair morphology. Genetic data does also support the phylogeny that I previously explained. I also couldn't find any sources or papers that supports your claim.
The The Offspring reference made my day Clint, thank you! 😂
This is an awesome video!
Though I will dispute your pronunciation of 'niche', as it is originally a latin word, which was adopted into French and then adopted into English. A lot of the time we don't change the pronunciation when we adopt words from French, like croissant or baguette. But then again, you're speaking US English, which does use quite different pronunciation and spelling to English.
Either way, really enjoyed the video as always
Niche is French. Where are you getting the information from that says otherwise?
Merriam-Webster
From Merriam-Webster Dictionary:
"[\NICH\] is the only pronunciation given for the word in all English dictionaries until the 20th century, when \NEESH\ was first listed as a pronunciation variant in Daniel Jones's English Pronouncing Dictionary (1917). \NEESH\ wasn’t listed as a pronunciation in our dictionaries until our 1961 Webster’s Third New International Dictionary, Unabridged, and it wasn’t entered into our smaller Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary until 1993. Even then, it was marked in the Collegiate as a pronunciation that was in educated use but not considered acceptable until 2003."
Niche is French when you're speaking French. I don't speak French. Our videos are in English. I'm talking about how it is pronounced in English.
@@ClintsReptilesYou're speaking American English. There's a lot of pronunciation differences between different groups of English speakers. Here in Canada, I mostly hear neesh. English words can have different pronunciations without any of them being right or wrong.
@@ClintsReptiles American English perhaps. Not in, err, English English. Or those European nations that have strong English (such as the Dutch).
Fun fact: Siberian tigers are known to outcompete wolves to the point of localized extinction. They are that dominant.
What’s interesting, that in the us ever since wolves were introduced to yellowstone they had cougar numbers dropping off but in more forested areas like in Washington they are known to kill wolves. It seems in more forested places cats have the upper hand and in open environments wolves take the advantage. Size also matters coyotes kill bobcats but the Eurasian lynxes kills golden jackals. Really interesting that these animals are each other’s greatest competition and that environmental has just as big factor on the outcome of these confrontations as size dose if not more.
Cats are overpowered.
See: Any Saber toothed cat.
@@aottadelsei980 Cougars and wolves eat the same prey, and this makes them animals that are very hostile to each other. Hostile interactions are more frequent than people believe.
But coyotes and bobcats are simply open warfare. They are mesopredators that eat many of the same prey, live in the same environments (to avoid wolves and cougars) and end up having each other as their biggest problem. I would say that no species of wild dog and wild cat hate each other more than coyotes and bobcats.
Many thanks. Contagious enthusiasm and a right dose of humour of the right wavelength.
23 and a 1/2 minutes of pure awesomeness generously sprinkled with humor. Love it. And looking forward to the next couple 👍 ❤️❤️
Thank you all for the work you put into these videos! All of you! ❤
As a biologist, I love these videos SO MUCH. I would love a video just on all the different species of cat, but would also love one on all the different kinds of mustelid. Cat biology is what got me into animal nutrition/physiology as a field, I remember my companion animal professor talking about how cats have such unique nutritional requirements that it was my big "lightbulb moment" in undergrad and now I do comparative mammal nutrition/energetics/physiology research for a living, with a bit of a specialty in nitrogen metabolism. And it can all be traced back to my professor talking about how cats have additional amino acid requirements compared to other mammals. Just so fascinating, and to quote the nutritionist JP McNamara, "owning a pet cat is like owning a pet formula 1 race car". Ferrets have even more niche requirements than cats, to be fair, but ferrets are also less common than cats and them being a bit unusual is maybe a bit more expected. But when I give talks to schools and go in about just how weird cats are from a metabolic/nutrition sense, students get so excited and fascinated. I work with herbivores now, but cats have a special place in my heart both for being amazing pets and so weird metabolically. Thanks for such an amazing video!
clint we are so excited when we see your videos. thank you for teaching me about phylogeny
Clint saying "WHAT UP MY NICHE'S!!!" was not something I was expecting to hear today 🤣
Another absolutely amazing and hilarious clade overview video! One small thing I noticed though, when talking about Hyenas you stated that all extant hyenas live in Africa, however Striped Hyenas also live in southern and Western Asia and a little bit of southeastern Europe.
That Offspring joke in the end had me dying
Calling a bunch of Meerkat Meeritties is the cutest thing ever
"But nobody calls multiple meerkats meerkitties!"
Well... at least one does now.
Can we just appreciate how the first 60 seconds are very engaging and scientifically informative!