As a lot of people have been saying, the machining on the pistol, and craftsmanship in general, looks stunning. Call me old fashioned, but I think that it's a lost art that pistols such as these are no longer being made. In a world dominated by mass produced polymer pistols, its always reassuring to see an example of old world craftsmanship every once in a while. Awesome video Ian, can't wait for the next one!
There are so many cool and unique pistols that Ian has examined over the course of this channel that it's really a shame that all pistols look exactly the same now a days with very little unique about them. Very few designers take risks and make changes so when shopping for a pistol you're shopping for the brand and that's it. Which brand at which price do you want? Because they all look the same, have the same features, same operation, and do the same things. The only pistol making some kind of change right now is the RIA 5.0 with their patented RVS for mitigating felt recoil and their extremely low, as low as can be, bore axis.
The uniqueness lies not just with the fact that this is a double stack pistol and an early one at that. The UNIQUENESS is that this is a DOUBLE STACK DOUBLE FEED design!
The Nambu-pistols look like some kind of injection pistol to me, like some neat sci-fi design, really like them. Thanks for the great video (again). You got quite a high output these days. Cool :)
I know, right? And to think that they probably made those on basic, horizontal mills with no DRO or carbide tooling or anything is just a testament to japanese craftsmanship.
+Tyrannosaurus54 You can actually buy love, too. But I would recommend renting it on a temporary basis. It will save you lots of money in the long run, considering how high the divorce rate is.
+Forgotten Weapons Exactly. I give my dad unopened boxes of 3.5" and 5.25" floppies for Christmas. Not because I'm a terrible son, but because our family appreciates a good joke over some disposable waste of money. It's about togetherness, not the gifts, anyway.
That's hilarious! On the safety of that type 14, the fire position is literally marked 'fire' 火, as in the kind one might cook in. The character is even meant as a pictograph of a campfire.
@@potatojerry2511 Yeah, and it's also how the English language works. Firearms use fire to work. Hence why they are "fire" arms and why you're said to "fire" them. It's not just a fancy synonym for "shoot", it literally means to apply fire to the gunpowder. I wonder why the original comment found this so funny?
@@hanfei6871 Are those Chinese words? I've never seen either one In Japanese, and this is a Japanese pistol. I've also never seen the character 火 used in Japanese in reference to shooting a gun, which is why that usage looks so odd to me.
I love guns since I know myself. I am 60 now. I read, and read about guns in my language and 3 others, since some 40 te years ago, or so. Never heard of this gun ever. Not even once. And I learned more here on this channel and others then all I read before
I owned a late-model (1943 production) 14 Nambu. The safety is the same as a 1934 Beretta. The pistol was nicely made, felt good in the hand, and shot very well. The cartridge was about as potent as what European officers often carried. The small grip fitted my wife's small hand very well. If the ammo (courtesy of Larry Potterfield) hadn't been so expensive, I might have kept it.
The day I win the lottery Im going to sign up for all the gun smithing and machining classes that I can, fund my own shop and start making reproductions of all these awesome historical firearms in modern/practical calibers. It seems everything cool I see is rare as hell or shoots out of date ammo. Just last weekend I found a sweet French pocket revolver for $200 in 380 but it wasnt 380acp.
I keep wondering when someone is going to do that! It's almost like Ian is doing advertising for a company (YOUR company?) that doesn't exist yet but should. Rescuing some of these amazing twentieth-century to space-age designs, making them use cheap ammo and be economical. Doesn't that SEEM like something that would have a market?
I am surprised there aren't more mom and pop gunsmiths in America pumping out replicas of obscure and iconic guns. I mean, you can legally do so with the right license and certification. You just can't make automatics for commercial sale. I guess the start-up costs and niche nature of the market, plus the $2500 (or so) annual fee stops this from being profitable.
If Ian ever runs out of guns to review I hope he does watches. I'd be stoked to see how those old things worked, and Ian is awesome at explaining this mechanical stuff.
A criminal was caught in my area yesterday carrying the same gun. Unfortunate for the rest of us that that gun will be destroyed after its booked into evidence
You do realize this is the first double stacked and striker fired pistol in existence? This predates the first modern striker fired pistols from Glock and H&K by 70-80 years.
@115madmax Many national militaries at the time were more interested in a culture of marksmanship than what actually made a good combat pistol. There are numerous instances of double stack pistols being rejected because it made the grips big enough to be less accurate in competition shooting.
For the record, the Broomhandle Mauser was one of the first automatic pistols with a double-stack box magazine. It just happened to be fixed rather than removable.
Several years ago a group of these super rare pistols were discovered in Japan. A problem showed up that the guns were never registered . The Government was demanding that they all be destroyed. Several Japanese museums wanted to save them as they knew how rare they are. I never heard who prevailed and what the outcome was.
If it wasn't for the Nambu's issues, primarily it's meek ammo, Japan would have had the best pistol of WW2 if they fixed them and went with this 15-round beauty.
@@anzaca1 We don't totally know that. Close quarter combat was not totally uncommon and resistance forces like the French Resistance frequently used pistols before acquiring better weapons. The Japanese "never surrender" ideal meant they would commonly use pistols while playing dead and then popping up to shoot somebody, if they didn't have an armed grenade ready to blow which was also common. The resistance forces and the Japanese probably used pistols more often than anybody else though.
@@DrownInLysergic The Germans used pistols a lot as well and considered them very important. I've seen old documentaries showing German paratroops using them, but those were propaganda films I believe. The one I remember best was a film about paratroops taking a brudge, one of them was using his Luger instead of a rifle.
He's right numbers don't lie. Pistols while better than a sharp stick aka katana. They account for very few casualties. A shoulder stock makes a big difference when you're jacked on adrenaline. This has been known since ancient times.
The Nambu is one of my favorite automatic pistols, along with the Luger and of course the Colt 1911. I especially like the Type 14 because it's lighter than the other two, looks just as cool, and the 8mm packs a serious punch.
I've been under the impression that 8 mm Nambu is rather anemic by today's standards. According to Wikipedia it's muzzle energy is only half that of 9 mm Para, presumably from comparible barrels.
While the polymer striker fired systems are a proven system that only need further ergonomic adjustments seems to be the norm today; is great to see the directions that early pistol engineer tried out.
What advantages do different handle angles have? Mentioned in the video that the highly slanted handle makes this gun fairly comfortable. So what are the reasons to have a more straight handle?
It's fascinating to see so many hi-capacity guns from the era. I heard that John Browning's original Hi-power pistol had a mag capacity of 16 rounds in 1923. I wonder why it took so long for them to realize 'hey, you know what? 7 to 9 rounds is OK, but wouldn't 15 be better? I mean it's not like we're designing these guns with combat or fighting or whatnot'. I understand that the philosophy behind pistol design was different at the time (especially between American and European standards for handgun firepower), but it seemed like a natural step to take. It took them until the 70s for that to get really get going, and even then, many, MANY full-sized handguns still had a fairly low magazine capacity (I'm looking at you, S&W) until the 2000s.
Amazing, so Japan was quite close to being the first nation to adopt a Military side arm with the first proper detachable double stack magazine? Nice, I didn't expect that; learn something new every day! It's like how Russia was nearly the first nation to make a semi auto rifle standard issue instead of America.
***** Standard issue, meaning ALL soldiers got them, completely replacing bolt actions for standard soldiers. The French didn't do that until the MAS49 I think. America had the Canadian-designed M1 Rifle, while the Soviets were producing basically twice as many SVT-40s. If not for Operation Barbarossa; the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union, the SVT-40 might just have replaced M91/30s in time. The goal was 2,000,000 per year by 1942 I think. Unfortunately in Summer 1941, Germany invaded, and so the sudden need for more rifles made production lean more towards Mosin rather than SVTs because they were much faster to make. By December 1941, there were about half a million M1 Rifles. By that same time, there were about 1,000,000 or 1,500,000 Tokarev rifles. Something like that, and they really were approaching 2,000,000 per year when they had to stop production. 2,000,000/year is basically 5,500/day. Over 200 per hour. That is A LOT of semi auto rifles for WWII times.
+NormanMatchem The French really *wanted* to be the first to have a standard issue semi-auto rifle, but they didn't have the budget for it. And for decades they were hampered by the truly ridiculous shape of the 8mm Lebel cartridge.
RedXlV Yeah, that round is kind of ridiculous in shape. Such a HUGE rim, yet it all slims down to an 8mm bullet. Well, it's the first smokeless cartridge in the WORLD, so I guess it has an excuse for being a bit funky looking. 1886, it was a good few moons ago. 2 years before .303 British and 8mm Mauser (possibly the most modern cartridge of its day), 7.5x55 was I think 1899 which was also VERY modern with quite a streamlined shape and rimless. 7.62x54r from 1891 wasn't all that modern in shape; quite a fat rim then slimming down to .30 cal, but it's good enough to STILL be in use today 125 years later on a VERY large scale. Very interesting, the history of cartridges, and how so very many of the ones made in the late 1800s were used in the mid 1900s in WWII. Ah yes, and .30-06 is from 1903 (altered in .30-06 to Spitzer I think), while .308 is only from the 1950s, with 7.62 Nato being from around 1957 basically using .308 but with a VERY specific loading. I think .45-70 is from 1873 when the Springfield Trapdoor came out. .455 for the Martini Henry was probably around 1870 or 1871 I think.
The nambu in it's early stages was a ctually a very good pistol. I had one of the early small trigger guard Type 14's, and it actually shot quite well, with the 8mm nambu cartridge meaning it was very low recoil, but i would not want to have used it in actual combat. the gun that kiiled the Nambu name was the type 94, made late in the war and had a number of simplifies design features that made it justifiably bad. I would go into it but I bet Ian already has a vid on it somewhere
Wow, that is a lot of nice machine work on that pistol. Alot being the word. That thing would have taken way longer to make then the 14. I can see why the 14 was made, considering how fast they needed to make them.
On the 1911, the "idiot mark" is a curing scratch from the slide stop pin being removed poorly. On the Type 14, moving the safety from safe to fire and back will inevitably leave a semicircular scratch on the gun, which I called an "idiot mark" because of its similarity to the one on the 1911.
Forgotten Weapons I've never heard of this before on the 1911 (goes to show how little i know). Thanks for the reply Ian, and thank you for all of the amazing content you make.
Yeah, anyone who uses a safety is an idiot. Therefore, idiot mark. It's the same thing with an AK safety- it puts a nice, arcing scratch on the gun, if you engage it.
would that mean the same is true for AK pattern rifles? or do i misunderstand. at the moment im being powered by a coffee IV or as near as i can get, bah 74 hour work weeks. this message has been sent from the stores public convenience, because i dont earn enough to deal with people first thing in the morning without 'stand up a spoon in it' coffee
Ian, this appears to be, despite it's underperforming caliber, one of the finest pre WWII designs ever. Is it refinished or is it in original condition? I'd really like for you to add an analysis of these guns as well as your opinions too. Would a few extra minutes or addendum videos ever come?
Probably the original condition. The other surviving pieces are also finished in the same fine manner. The reason is simple. it is a prototype, not a mass-produced product, so there was no need to simplify anything.
They should had adopted this instead. This looks to be a better design in almost every way. You get 15 rounds, which is insane for a service pistol of the time. You get one less spring so it takes a bit less to manufacture. You get a better safety as well. The only drawback is it is a thicker. Might be a problem for a concealed carry piece, but not a service pistol. Frankly the weight is not really that big of a difference.
Hi ,, ;-) Good job, I was thinking that it would be neat to know if ammo is available for the obscure firearms,and if they are safe to use. Not nessisarily this one , but the obscure ones.. thanks again for your great work. ..
+Willy Bee That varies enormously from one firearm to the next. A lot of obscure and low-production firearms were made in the most common calibers of their eras, some of which calibers are still in manufacture today. On the other hand, there are a few guns of which thousands were made, but in a proprietary caliber that's long out of print, so to speak. It would be hard to do a single video that was a actually useful in much detail...
Lahti L35/M40 is one of the best 9mm pistols from its era, its really accurate and recoil is easy to compensate... Only thing is that Lahti is just not very known weapon. And, in fact, Lahti as weapon name is also town in southern Finland and also word "Lahti" also means "slaughter" in finnish. i have both 9mm luger and Lahti and Lahti Pistol is very much better weapon by usability, accuracy and overall performance. Torilla tavataan!
+DJCDavisDubstep Watch Ian and Karl's other channel, InRange. A good quarter or so of that one is two-gun match competition, and most of the videos involve live fire testing.
Jessie Edsell It also looks more sturdy and elegant than the other guns. I don't get it. They made great rifles, but their pistols were trash for the most part. I don't see how they dropped the ball with so many pre-existing systems they could have gone with.
The IJA never issued any pistols. If officers wished to have a sidearm they had to purchase them privately. Unfortunately I can't quote my reference - the hard drive I had it was on is now long-dead, but spend a few hours with Google and you should find it.
soooo the reason why nambu pistols don't cycle well anymore is because of the age of the gun right? or what's going on with them? i've always wanted one, but i'm afraid it will act like a bolt action pistol. did they work well during the war?
Amazing work of steel! Class & style. Something like geometric Japanese paper wall panel shapes on the upper assembly. Even the trigger looks kind of like a… tiny wakizashi :) This pistol was "liberated" in 1946… "LOL"! Of course, American "good guys" only liberate, the others just loot & steal…
@@alexm566 Yes, I agree, it may be LEGITIMATE. But calling it "liberation" is just… too much for me :) (but maybe it was 2nd degree, I do not remember, saw the video last year…) I presume that, if IT went "the other way around", Japanese RUclipsrs would show nowadays a lot of M1911 and Savages and S&W and stuff, but I doubt somehow that they would call them "liberated". THANK You for your answer!! :)
What were they supposed to do? Let a defeated military keep their guns and weapons on their terms? Maybe the Japanese shouldn’t have sided with the Nazi’s and bomb Pearl Harbor.
Hi, I just saw your video on Simpson ltd. just a question on importation markings, are there any special requirements when it comes to location of the marking of a rifle or pistol or could you engrave its import markings in a place that isn't visible without disassembling like under the furniture?
The mag is almost more interesting than the gun in some aspects. As you said way ahead of its time being a double stack. I'd think it wasn't adopted for mfg reasons as well and due to a single stack being "good enough" in most cases.
А где полная разборка пистолета?, а почему не показал как он стреляет, кучность, количество патронов в магазине, тип патронов- какие кушает, а какие не катят?
More that some collector died and left it to their kids/spouse, who couldn't care less about guns. You wouldn't leave a collection to an auction house, you'd leave it to a museum if that were the idea. XD
As a lot of people have been saying, the machining on the pistol, and craftsmanship in general, looks stunning. Call me old fashioned, but I think that it's a lost art that pistols such as these are no longer being made. In a world dominated by mass produced polymer pistols, its always reassuring to see an example of old world craftsmanship every once in a while. Awesome video Ian, can't wait for the next one!
There are so many cool and unique pistols that Ian has examined over the course of this channel that it's really a shame that all pistols look exactly the same now a days with very little unique about them. Very few designers take risks and make changes so when shopping for a pistol you're shopping for the brand and that's it. Which brand at which price do you want? Because they all look the same, have the same features, same operation, and do the same things. The only pistol making some kind of change right now is the RIA 5.0 with their patented RVS for mitigating felt recoil and their extremely low, as low as can be, bore axis.
The uniqueness lies not just with the fact that this is a double stack pistol and an early one at that. The UNIQUENESS is that this is a DOUBLE STACK DOUBLE FEED design!
That's a very cool pistol. Hard to believe it was a prior design to the 14.
looks very well made
But, this pistol is trash
이신학 앜ㅋㅋ trash에용 ㅋㅋㅋ 한국인 반갑습니당
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이신학 when did you get too operate one?
I love how slick it looks
The Nambu-pistols look like some kind of injection pistol to me, like some neat sci-fi design, really like them. Thanks for the great video (again). You got quite a high output these days. Cool :)
You can definitely see the similar design influence in the original Star Trek Federation phasers.
that pistol looks brand new, beautiful infact.
i would have no quarms about shooting that.
That's because it was stolen,unused,from an armoury stashed away then later sold for $51,000 Dollars-crime does pay.
300 meter sights on a pistol good job Japan
John Crain They were very optimistic with their sights. The type 100 went up to 1k meters. Thats an 8mm nambu round being "accurate" to 1k.
Pfff... The C96 had 1000 METER SIGHTS!
Imagine firing .380 ACP/9mm short at 300 to 1,000 m, which is what 8mm Nambu is closest to in relative cartridges.
What can you expect of a nation that mounts a bayonet on LMGS? These people were just nuts
@@darthmongoltheunwise8776 That's why the crazy had to come out of Americans during WWII. Because THEY WERE NUTS!!
The machine work looks top notch. Odd grip angle.
I know, right? And to think that they probably made those on basic, horizontal mills with no DRO or carbide tooling or anything is just a testament to japanese craftsmanship.
Kitsune Chan the angle of the grip is for the recoil
Odd for a military pistol.
However, it is a common angle for competition precise pistols that are fired with one hand.
@@smile_hex1883 that makes sense considering one handed grip was practiced at this time in armed forces
Looking forward to seeing you getting back out on the range with some of these types of weapons.
what a beautifully finished gun. the blueing and polishing is amazing
Also I like how the deer heads are glaring at him, making sure he does the review right lol.
I love the grip angle!
You should get that as present for your dad Ian. Sure it may be about $20000, but hey you can't put a price on love.
+Tyrannosaurus54 Yeah, actually you can. :)
How about we go halfies on it ;D
+Tyrannosaurus54 You can actually buy love, too. But I would recommend renting it on a temporary basis. It will save you lots of money in the long run, considering how high the divorce rate is.
+Forgotten Weapons lucky you! That price is $25,000! Your $5000 under!
+Forgotten Weapons Exactly. I give my dad unopened boxes of 3.5" and 5.25" floppies for Christmas. Not because I'm a terrible son, but because our family appreciates a good joke over some disposable waste of money. It's about togetherness, not the gifts, anyway.
That's hilarious! On the safety of that type 14, the fire position is literally marked 'fire' 火, as in the kind one might cook in. The character is even meant as a pictograph of a campfire.
That is not hilarious. That is how chinese-kanji language system works.
火 literally means 發火or開火，fire literally means fire, it's literally not funny and literally meant what it was supposed to literally represent.
@@potatojerry2511 Yeah, and it's also how the English language works. Firearms use fire to work. Hence why they are "fire" arms and why you're said to "fire" them. It's not just a fancy synonym for "shoot", it literally means to apply fire to the gunpowder. I wonder why the original comment found this so funny?
@@hanfei6871 Are those Chinese words? I've never seen either one In Japanese, and this is a Japanese pistol. I've also never seen the character 火 used in Japanese in reference to shooting a gun, which is why that usage looks so odd to me.
@@TonboIV the japanese “borrowed” chinese characters
If this had been adopted or its mag retained for the Type-14, oh boy would this be a lot more popular
I love guns since I know myself. I am 60 now. I read, and read about guns in my language and 3 others, since some 40 te years ago, or so. Never heard of this gun ever. Not even once. And I learned more here on this channel and others then all I read before
I owned a late-model (1943 production) 14 Nambu. The safety is the same as a 1934 Beretta. The pistol was nicely made, felt good in the hand, and shot very well. The cartridge was about as potent as what European officers often carried. The small grip fitted my wife's small hand very well. If the ammo (courtesy of Larry Potterfield) hadn't been so expensive, I might have kept it.
Soooo friggin cool, great work as always!
Have a papa nambu, shoots beautifully, doesn't jam, super accurate. 8 mm round is adequate. Great informational video, thankyou for sharing. 🖐🇦🇺
The day I win the lottery Im going to sign up for all the gun smithing and machining classes that I can, fund my own shop and start making reproductions of all these awesome historical firearms in modern/practical calibers. It seems everything cool I see is rare as hell or shoots out of date ammo. Just last weekend I found a sweet French pocket revolver for $200 in 380 but it wasnt 380acp.
I keep wondering when someone is going to do that! It's almost like Ian is doing advertising for a company (YOUR company?) that doesn't exist yet but should. Rescuing some of these amazing twentieth-century to space-age designs, making them use cheap ammo and be economical. Doesn't that SEEM like something that would have a market?
I am surprised there aren't more mom and pop gunsmiths in America pumping out replicas of obscure and iconic guns. I mean, you can legally do so with the right license and certification. You just can't make automatics for commercial sale.
I guess the start-up costs and niche nature of the market, plus the $2500 (or so) annual fee stops this from being profitable.
That is one thing i would love,a modern Nambu in 32 acp ,or 7,62x25.
If Ian ever runs out of guns to review I hope he does watches. I'd be stoked to see how those old things worked, and Ian is awesome at explaining this mechanical stuff.
A criminal was caught in my area yesterday carrying the same gun. Unfortunate for the rest of us that that gun will be destroyed after its booked into evidence
Beautiful quality machining. Interesting contrast with the production Model 14, which was clearly produced in a hurry.
You do realize this is the first double stacked and striker fired pistol in existence? This predates the first modern striker fired pistols from Glock and H&K by 70-80 years.
@115madmax Many national militaries at the time were more interested in a culture of marksmanship than what actually made a good combat pistol. There are numerous instances of double stack pistols being rejected because it made the grips big enough to be less accurate in competition shooting.
Actually it was not first. At least Savage model 1907 was striker-fired double-stack design earlier than this.
Incredible beautiful work . Early and prewar Japanese metalwork is supreme .
Amazing machine work!
For the record, the Broomhandle Mauser was one of the first automatic pistols with a double-stack box magazine. It just happened to be fixed rather than removable.
They are really nice looking pistols.
great idea, magazine release on the front side of the grip
Great looking pistol.
Several years ago a group of these super rare pistols were discovered in Japan. A problem showed up that the guns were never registered . The Government was demanding that they all be destroyed. Several Japanese museums wanted to save them as they knew how rare they are. I never heard who prevailed and what the outcome was.
+toomanyaccounts Thanks for the correction.
How did they end up?
I like the guns you bring to the channel . a lot of them I have never seen them before and some of them I seen similar design of them
great vid as always guy's. cool design and idea nambu had
It's interesting to see firearms design from differing perspectives.
If it wasn't for the Nambu's issues, primarily it's meek ammo, Japan would have had the best pistol of WW2 if they fixed them and went with this 15-round beauty.
Best pistol in WWII is a pointless title, really. Handguns in WWII barely got used.
@@anzaca1 We don't totally know that. Close quarter combat was not totally uncommon and resistance forces like the French Resistance frequently used pistols before acquiring better weapons.
The Japanese "never surrender" ideal meant they would commonly use pistols while playing dead and then popping up to shoot somebody, if they didn't have an armed grenade ready to blow which was also common.
The resistance forces and the Japanese probably used pistols more often than anybody else though.
@@DrownInLysergic The Germans used pistols a lot as well and considered them very important. I've seen old documentaries showing German paratroops using them, but those were propaganda films I believe. The one I remember best was a film about paratroops taking a brudge, one of them was using his Luger instead of a rifle.
He's right numbers don't lie. Pistols while better than a sharp stick aka katana. They account for very few casualties. A shoulder stock makes a big difference when you're jacked on adrenaline. This has been known since ancient times.
@@soreloser6018small arms in general are a very small part
The Nambu is one of my favorite automatic pistols, along with the Luger and of course the Colt 1911. I especially like the Type 14 because it's lighter than the other two, looks just as cool, and the 8mm packs a serious punch.
I've been under the impression that 8 mm Nambu is rather anemic by today's standards. According to Wikipedia it's muzzle energy is only half that of 9 mm Para, presumably from comparible barrels.
While the polymer striker fired systems are a proven system that only need further ergonomic adjustments seems to be the norm today; is great to see the directions that early pistol engineer tried out.
Id love to see a "home made/ badly designed" gun video playlist. The homemade Chinese pistols are definitely my favourite videos lol
The receiver width is wider than other double stuck magazine handgun. What is a feeling of the grip like?
2:14 "liberated"
so, stolen ?
What advantages do different handle angles have? Mentioned in the video that the highly slanted handle makes this gun fairly comfortable. So what are the reasons to have a more straight handle?
Imagine hiding a gun and you will get it intuition
It's fascinating to see so many hi-capacity guns from the era. I heard that John Browning's original Hi-power pistol had a mag capacity of 16 rounds in 1923. I wonder why it took so long for them to realize 'hey, you know what? 7 to 9 rounds is OK, but wouldn't 15 be better? I mean it's not like we're designing these guns with combat or fighting or whatnot'. I understand that the philosophy behind pistol design was different at the time (especially between American and European standards for handgun firepower), but it seemed like a natural step to take. It took them until the 70s for that to get really get going, and even then, many, MANY full-sized handguns still had a fairly low magazine capacity (I'm looking at you, S&W) until the 2000s.
I would love a Luger P08 with double stack mag, also for the M1911A1
Amazing, so Japan was quite close to being the first nation to adopt a Military side arm with the first proper detachable double stack magazine? Nice, I didn't expect that; learn something new every day! It's like how Russia was nearly the first nation to make a semi auto rifle standard issue instead of America.
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Standard issue, meaning ALL soldiers got them, completely replacing bolt actions for standard soldiers. The French didn't do that until the MAS49 I think. America had the Canadian-designed M1 Rifle, while the Soviets were producing basically twice as many SVT-40s. If not for Operation Barbarossa; the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union, the SVT-40 might just have replaced M91/30s in time.
The goal was 2,000,000 per year by 1942 I think. Unfortunately in Summer 1941, Germany invaded, and so the sudden need for more rifles made production lean more towards Mosin rather than SVTs because they were much faster to make.
By December 1941, there were about half a million M1 Rifles. By that same time, there were about 1,000,000 or 1,500,000 Tokarev rifles. Something like that, and they really were approaching 2,000,000 per year when they had to stop production. 2,000,000/year is basically 5,500/day. Over 200 per hour. That is A LOT of semi auto rifles for WWII times.
Alas! Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades🍻
+NormanMatchem The French really *wanted* to be the first to have a standard issue semi-auto rifle, but they didn't have the budget for it. And for decades they were hampered by the truly ridiculous shape of the 8mm Lebel cartridge.
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Yeah, that round is kind of ridiculous in shape. Such a HUGE rim, yet it all slims down to an 8mm bullet. Well, it's the first smokeless cartridge in the WORLD, so I guess it has an excuse for being a bit funky looking. 1886, it was a good few moons ago. 2 years before .303 British and 8mm Mauser (possibly the most modern cartridge of its day), 7.5x55 was I think 1899 which was also VERY modern with quite a streamlined shape and rimless. 7.62x54r from 1891 wasn't all that modern in shape; quite a fat rim then slimming down to .30 cal, but it's good enough to STILL be in use today 125 years later on a VERY large scale.
Very interesting, the history of cartridges, and how so very many of the ones made in the late 1800s were used in the mid 1900s in WWII. Ah yes, and .30-06 is from 1903 (altered in .30-06 to Spitzer I think), while .308 is only from the 1950s, with 7.62 Nato being from around 1957 basically using .308 but with a VERY specific loading. I think .45-70 is from 1873 when the Springfield Trapdoor came out. .455 for the Martini Henry was probably around 1870 or 1871 I think.
Yep, the federov was quite something
The nambu in it's early stages was a ctually a very good pistol. I had one of the early small trigger guard Type 14's, and it actually shot quite well, with the 8mm nambu cartridge meaning it was very low recoil, but i would not want to have used it in actual combat. the gun that kiiled the Nambu name was the type 94, made late in the war and had a number of simplifies design features that made it justifiably bad. I would go into it but I bet Ian already has a vid on it somewhere
Cool, great vid Ian.:D
Honestly seems like this was a good compromise for the weak cartridge, in terms of having a higher capacity than they ultimately chose.
I want a double-stack 15-16 shot Luger now!
Looted.... woops “liberated” from Tokyo Arsenal...Nice to see them survived tho. Cool video too
what is this, Creepy uncle Nambu?
Wow, that is a lot of nice machine work on that pistol. Alot being the word. That thing would have taken way longer to make then the 14. I can see why the 14 was made, considering how fast they needed to make them.
It’s like a broom handle mechanism with Luger ergonomics
What's this about an idiot marking on the type 14 safety? Can someone explain this? Was he joking or serious?
On the 1911, the "idiot mark" is a curing scratch from the slide stop pin being removed poorly. On the Type 14, moving the safety from safe to fire and back will inevitably leave a semicircular scratch on the gun, which I called an "idiot mark" because of its similarity to the one on the 1911.
Forgotten Weapons I've never heard of this before on the 1911 (goes to show how little i know). Thanks for the reply Ian, and thank you for all of the amazing content you make.
Yeah, anyone who uses a safety is an idiot. Therefore, idiot mark.
It's the same thing with an AK safety- it puts a nice, arcing scratch on the gun, if you engage it.
would that mean the same is true for AK pattern rifles? or do i misunderstand. at the moment im being powered by a coffee IV or as near as i can get, bah 74 hour work weeks. this message has been sent from the stores public convenience, because i dont earn enough to deal with people first thing in the morning without 'stand up a spoon in it' coffee
Fred Herring gThats a red herring
Ya know if it was in a more common caliber, it would be a nice pistol to own.
+Chad Barrett And if it weren't worth as much as my car, I'd bid on it
Nice handgun for its time
300 meter sight marks? Sound a bit optimistic eh?
+Robert Hickham Considering that the C96 sights go out to 1000...
+Robert Hickham Hickok45 could make a 300 shot with one of these ;)
+crazyfvck .. Not so sure about Hickok, but JM could do it with the gun upside down.
+RapidRrobert Jerry could do it upside down and gangsta style.
+Forgotten Weapons Were there provisions for a shoulder stock on this Nambu design? Perhaps 300 meters wouldn't be as ridiculous then.
Ian, this appears to be, despite it's underperforming caliber, one of the finest pre WWII designs ever. Is it refinished or is it in original condition? I'd really like for you to add an analysis of these guns as well as your opinions too. Would a few extra minutes or addendum videos ever come?
Probably the original condition.
The other surviving pieces are also finished in the same fine manner.
The reason is simple.
it is a prototype, not a mass-produced product, so there was no need to simplify anything.
The Browning hi power bas made using an early FN double stack magazine.
They should had adopted this instead. This looks to be a better design in almost every way. You get 15 rounds, which is insane for a service pistol of the time. You get one less spring so it takes a bit less to manufacture. You get a better safety as well. The only drawback is it is a thicker. Might be a problem for a concealed carry piece, but not a service pistol. Frankly the weight is not really that big of a difference.
+Donna Sachs Well that sure did not effect the size of their rifles, haha. Some of those are absurdly large.
Hi ,, ;-) Good job,
I was thinking that it would be neat to know if ammo is available for the obscure firearms,and if they are safe to use.
Not nessisarily this one , but the obscure ones..
thanks again for your great work. ..
+Willy Bee That varies enormously from one firearm to the next. A lot of obscure and low-production firearms were made in the most common calibers of their eras, some of which calibers are still in manufacture today. On the other hand, there are a few guns of which thousands were made, but in a proprietary caliber that's long out of print, so to speak. It would be hard to do a single video that was a actually useful in much detail...
Love the Nambu design. Ian, do you think you guys could do a video on the Finnish Lathi L-35/Swedish Lathi m40??
+eELijaNilLs HD I would like to see a video on the Lahti also. I almost bought one, but it felt like it weighed 5 lbs.
I think it's written as Lahti. (Source: i live about 20km away from that city)
+J.L. Roberts The m40 is a gun that in Sweden we were warned about. Lots of cracks in the slide
Lahti L35/M40 is one of the best 9mm pistols from its era, its really accurate and recoil is easy to compensate... Only thing is that Lahti is just not very known weapon.
And, in fact, Lahti as weapon name is also town in southern Finland and also word "Lahti" also means "slaughter" in finnish.
i have both 9mm luger and Lahti and Lahti Pistol is very much better weapon by usability, accuracy and overall performance.
Torilla tavataan!
+J Karra I would like to have a Lahti with an attachable shoulder stock. The Finns are very brave. They took on the Soviets and the Nazis, and won.
Saw something about Japansese Type 94 8mm Nambu, have you reviewed any of this smaller lighter "pilot" type pistols.
Big Brother Nambu
I love watching these videos but I think you should include range time a bit more often
+DJCDavisDubstep Watch Ian and Karl's other channel, InRange. A good quarter or so of that one is two-gun match competition, and most of the videos involve live fire testing.
Why the fuck didn't they adopt this pistol? I swear, Japan it's like you wanted to lose.
Jessie Edsell It also looks more sturdy and elegant than the other guns. I don't get it. They made great rifles, but their pistols were trash for the most part. I don't see how they dropped the ball with so many pre-existing systems they could have gone with.
The IJA never issued any pistols. If officers wished to have a sidearm they had to purchase them privately.
Unfortunately I can't quote my reference - the hard drive I had it was on is now long-dead, but spend a few hours with Google and you should find it.
That's not entirely true. Officers did indeed have to purchase their own pistols, but pistols were also issued to NCOs.
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It's slightly too wide but I love the look of this thing.
very handsome and mechanical looking. Good job, doesn't really look like an antique I think.
A low powered pistal sight for 300 meters?
what was seen by the Tokyo Arsenal they kept this pistol from being accepted
soooo the reason why nambu pistols don't cycle well anymore is because of the age of the gun right? or what's going on with them? i've always wanted one, but i'm afraid it will act like a bolt action pistol. did they work well during the war?
Amazing work of steel! Class & style. Something like geometric Japanese paper wall panel shapes on the upper assembly. Even the trigger looks kind of like a… tiny wakizashi :)
This pistol was "liberated" in 1946… "LOL"! Of course, American "good guys" only liberate, the others just loot & steal…
Guns and weapons have always been a legitimate war trophy since forever in every culture
@@alexm566 Yes, I agree, it may be LEGITIMATE.
But calling it "liberation" is just… too much for me :)
(but maybe it was 2nd degree, I do not remember, saw the video last year…)
I presume that, if IT went "the other way around", Japanese RUclipsrs would show nowadays a lot of M1911 and Savages and S&W and stuff, but I doubt somehow that they would call them "liberated".
THANK You for your answer!! :)
@@GazalAlShaqab we're calling it liberation here as a joke, nobody is brainwashed to believe it's actual liberation.
@@alexm566 All right, I get it, thanks!! :) :)
What were they supposed to do?
Let a defeated military keep their guns and weapons on their terms? Maybe the Japanese shouldn’t have sided with the Nazi’s and bomb Pearl Harbor.
日本人でも見た事無い、貴重な拳銃が綺麗な状態で、オークション出品される欲しいですが、日本は拳銃の所持が規制されているので所持出来ません。
you can get an airsoft one probably. They're identical on the outside and have similar weight and feeling in the hand.
Hi Ian. Do you think you could do a video on the WA2000. Its pretty rare as on only 176 were made. Just a suggestion. Thanks.
+Wilbo Baggins I second that suggestion! If you can get your hands on one it would make a very cool episode.
+Wilbo Baggins I second that suggestion! If you can get your hands on one it would make a very cool episode.
Wilbo Baggins
what is your profile pic?
I wonder if someone at Lahti ever saw one of these?
Ikr
What's with all the cut away audio?
Hi, I just saw your video on Simpson ltd. just a question on importation markings, are there any special requirements when it comes to location of the marking of a rifle or pistol or could you engrave its import markings in a place that isn't visible without disassembling like under the furniture?
+Salt Factory ATF requires the marking to be visible on the outside of the gun.
So, have you ever seen a firearm with a tangent sight that didn't seem fairly overly optimistic?
These are what the Ruger MKII .22 camp pistols are modeled after. You would be surprised at how many Ruger fans don't know this.
The mag is almost more interesting than the gun in some aspects. As you said way ahead of its time being a double stack. I'd think it wasn't adopted for mfg reasons as well and due to a single stack being "good enough" in most cases.
well that sold for a pretty penny
А где полная разборка пистолета?, а почему не показал как он стреляет, кучность, количество патронов в магазине, тип патронов- какие кушает, а какие не катят?
Do the Nambu 94! (If possible)
does the nambu and the ruger mark 1 share any designs because they look very similar
Jacob Galfi none at all....
I have two type 14s. Real easy to shoot.
Is that a double stack, double feed magazine ? Feed lips look really wide.
Yes, it is.
I really like this pistol. Seems far ahead of it's time. Too bad it was not adopted.
want to see it disassembled !!!!!
Wonder how it feels in the hand. It looks well made but not comfortable.
I think it is somewhat similar to the Swedish m40/Finnish L35 in appearance.
This would have been a great gun to use in star wars, would look great on an imperial officer.
That looks similar to co2 pistol I have, plainsman 175
Is it just me or is there a lot of Japanese stuff lately on FW? Did some collector just die and leave their collection to RIA or James Julia?
b. griffin
Possibly.
More that some collector died and left it to their kids/spouse, who couldn't care less about guns.
You wouldn't leave a collection to an auction house, you'd leave it to a museum if that were the idea. XD
does anyone know why the Japanese did not end up adopting this pistol? looks like a really good concept, I wonder what the reason was.
I wonder why this didn't go into mass production, it seems like a much better pistol compared to the type 14
Bureaucrats...
The only problem I can see with the Type A is the anemic ammunition.
Those sight markings seem a bit optimistic. O.o
are 1911's more complex than they need to be?