Peter is starting to feel like an old friend after all these years when you start to hear their stories over and over. Heard the Ahmad Jamal in the van story before.
Keep these album episodes coming! It's great to hear the breakdowns and point out details I may have missed in my own listening. By the way, as a native San Diegan, we have a Pershing street, and it's Pershing with a "sh" like you're shushing someone, like: "shhhh it's a library"
Another bit of the lore (or backstory perhaps) is the fact that Argo records was the jazz spinoff of Chess Records, an Jamal's importance in Argo's catalog is kind of like Coltrane's importance in Impulse's catalog. Argo had some other successes (Etta James' "At Last" is one notable Argo release), but if you scan their catalog today, Jamal's records stand out in quantity and quality. Sonny Stitt, Kenny Burrell, Quincy Jones, Lou Donaldson, Ramsey Lewis, and Barry Harris all recorded for Argo, but none of them did their best work there like Jamal.
And Peter’s frequent mention of his Attorney’s at DeBosier & DeBosier, which I feel he must need to contact quite often as I bet they are contacted by the Jazz Police more than they’ll ever tell us, it would take up all the time of almost every episode. Keep ‘em on speed-dial, Peter.
Guy's, I have a humble request that I feel may be of merit to other listeners - could you do an episode or two about the astounding ESQUIVEL! He was a brutally wonderful pianist and evidently an extraordinary producer. I think there's plenty there to talk about and his music is widely underappreciated in my view.
Honestly, I really dislike the idea of rating albums, since it is so reductive, and it would be a problem if that were the focus, but I really enjoy and appreciate the process of thinking about an album and what makes it great in a structured, formal way. I know it's all about the journey for you guys, and not the numbers, and this series is really just a game, so I'm totally on board with this and loving every minute of it. P.S. - I've been hoping you would cover this album because I really want to go deeper on it and absorb more of what is going on, so this was great. You get a 9/10 for reviewing this album, and an 8/10 for the banter.
Loving this series. Do you take requests? Here's one: Komeda Quintet - Astigmatic (1966). Not a record I'm familiar with, but one I see coming up on different "best of all time" lists.
I want aunt Linda back as well! We need an Aunt Linda-meter! Split the ten points between Snobs and Aunt Linda. Would Snobs like it? Snob-o-meter, ratings 1-5. Would Aunt Linda like it? Aunt Linda-meter, ratings 1-5.
The golden years you guys talk about here were in the wake of a huge Calypso craze in the US. The adoption of this approach by the top jazz musicians of the time resulted in some amazing all-time ear worms, including “Poinciana”. I feel like this was taken a step further by the house band at Motown, especially Jamerson, who I think must have listened to Israel Crosby quite a bit.
Hearing your back and forth about Pershing Avenue I had a hunch and just had to look it up. It's a character flaw. Pershing Avenue was originally named "Berlin" but as that fell out of favour in WWII, sometime during or after the war it was renamed in honour of General Jack Pershing. Based on that, Adam's pronunciation is probably correct. I say "probably" because Toronto has a long street named Spadina Avenue that originally was built as the drive up to a mansion called Spadina House. Today the "i" in the street name is pronounced like the one in "mine", whereas for the property it's pronounced as in "ski". Spad-eye-na Spadeena, Pershing Perzhing. 😅
I went to Pershing School and only heard it and said it with the z sound my whole life. Maybe just a UCity thing, but sounds strange the way Adam pronounced it.
Comment/engagement tax Been really enjoying this series. As a baby jazz piano player y'all have been bringing a bunch of records I didn't know. It's been a fun accessible way of expanding my ears. Would love to hear y'all engage with some newer albums, too, like from Robert Glasper
I know what Adam's doing. Sometimes I used to pronounce "pizza" just as it's written, and pretend like I didn't notice (and other common but weirdly spelled vs pronounced nouns, and obviously you only do this with people who don't know you, like when you have to dine with random people, or at an event). Mainly, it's just to mess with peoples' reality. Is that an ET in disguise, or a spy? I think I look too normal, to pull that off any more. It helps if you really get into character. I think that sort of thing started because someone I knew was into chaos magic and discordianism, and they were always talking about interfering with habitual perspectives. I had to ask - he starting referring to himself only in the 3rd person, like Gollum, and I just had to ask. And that led down THAT rabbit hole. It was fun, for sure. I used to forward my spam folder to Hormel. That was after they stopped accepting faxes. Yes, we used to spam the fax machines at Spam HQ. Good times.
Rating albums is silly, and your rating system really stinks. Having said that, I get a guilty pleasure out of watching this series, and you two are great, so here I am once again.
I think you should claim your first! After all, the internet runs on puppies, kittens and firsts! I don’t win the lottery much, but I get a little thrill being first.
Peter is starting to feel like an old friend after all these years when you start to hear their stories over and over. Heard the Ahmad Jamal in the van story before.
One day I hoe he recalls and tells some of what they discussed.
Morning guys. I'm here for AAAAALLLLLLLL my jazz needs.🎼
Pershing is probably a reference to WWI General Pershing (as in the Pershing Tank) who is known phonetically as General Perzhing.
Keep these album episodes coming! It's great to hear the breakdowns and point out details I may have missed in my own listening. By the way, as a native San Diegan, we have a Pershing street, and it's Pershing with a "sh" like you're shushing someone, like: "shhhh it's a library"
Another bit of the lore (or backstory perhaps) is the fact that Argo records was the jazz spinoff of Chess Records, an Jamal's importance in Argo's catalog is kind of like Coltrane's importance in Impulse's catalog. Argo had some other successes (Etta James' "At Last" is one notable Argo release), but if you scan their catalog today, Jamal's records stand out in quantity and quality. Sonny Stitt, Kenny Burrell, Quincy Jones, Lou Donaldson, Ramsey Lewis, and Barry Harris all recorded for Argo, but none of them did their best work there like Jamal.
These are great! Keep them coming!
Thank you for this series. I did not know this album and to have some help discovering great music is really nice
Very Honorable Mention: The Peter Martin Stankface😎
And Peter’s frequent mention of his Attorney’s at DeBosier & DeBosier, which I feel he must need to contact quite often as I bet they are contacted by the Jazz Police more than they’ll ever tell us, it would take up all the time of almost every episode. Keep ‘em on speed-dial, Peter.
first thing i played this morning was this album! perfect timing. thanks guys! 🎶
I would love if you could review Ahmad Jamal's Heatwave album, it's an album very close to my heart.
Guy's, I have a humble request that I feel may be of merit to other listeners - could you do an episode or two about the astounding ESQUIVEL! He was a brutally wonderful pianist and evidently an extraordinary producer. I think there's plenty there to talk about and his music is widely underappreciated in my view.
Wow! You guys went full Charlie Brown’s Teacher at around 11 minutes! 😂😂😂 I’ll finish here then check out the pod. 😃🥰🌷🌺🔥
Honestly, I really dislike the idea of rating albums, since it is so reductive, and it would be a problem if that were the focus, but I really enjoy and appreciate the process of thinking about an album and what makes it great in a structured, formal way. I know it's all about the journey for you guys, and not the numbers, and this series is really just a game, so I'm totally on board with this and loving every minute of it.
P.S. - I've been hoping you would cover this album because I really want to go deeper on it and absorb more of what is going on, so this was great. You get a 9/10 for reviewing this album, and an 8/10 for the banter.
great episode - pulled out the LP and listening now - Mine is on the Cadet label - Also own Jamal at the Pershing Vol 2
what exact record is peter refering to when mention "live at the Alhambra," Because theres a lot i feel like
LETS GO ILOVE THIS ALBUM
Loving this series. Do you take requests? Here's one: Komeda Quintet - Astigmatic (1966). Not a record I'm familiar with, but one I see coming up on different "best of all time" lists.
I want aunt Linda back as well! We need an Aunt Linda-meter! Split the ten points between Snobs and Aunt Linda.
Would Snobs like it? Snob-o-meter, ratings 1-5.
Would Aunt Linda like it? Aunt Linda-meter, ratings 1-5.
Yes, having Aunt Linda back would help offset the snobs. Then any album that appeals to both earns top marks.
Yes, this makes the most sense.
The golden years you guys talk about here were in the wake of a huge Calypso craze in the US. The adoption of this approach by the top jazz musicians of the time resulted in some amazing all-time ear worms, including “Poinciana”. I feel like this was taken a step further by the house band at Motown, especially Jamerson, who I think must have listened to Israel Crosby quite a bit.
Hearing your back and forth about Pershing Avenue I had a hunch and just had to look it up. It's a character flaw.
Pershing Avenue was originally named "Berlin" but as that fell out of favour in WWII, sometime during or after the war it was renamed in honour of General Jack Pershing. Based on that, Adam's pronunciation is probably correct.
I say "probably" because Toronto has a long street named Spadina Avenue that originally was built as the drive up to a mansion called Spadina House. Today the "i" in the street name is pronounced like the one in "mine", whereas for the property it's pronounced as in "ski". Spad-eye-na Spadeena, Pershing Perzhing. 😅
I went to Pershing School and only heard it and said it with the z sound my whole life. Maybe just a UCity thing, but sounds strange the way Adam pronounced it.
Comment/engagement tax
Been really enjoying this series. As a baby jazz piano player y'all have been bringing a bunch of records I didn't know. It's been a fun accessible way of expanding my ears. Would love to hear y'all engage with some newer albums, too, like from Robert Glasper
It was kind hard to hear you guys over the music in this one but otherwise great video! I always look fprward to these reviews each week
Noted!
One of the relatively few vinyls I own
I am from Chicago - it is “Per-zhing” … also “Per- zhing” everywhere else
Sorry for being a know it all
Looking forward to an Adam Jamal lesson on triads inversions approached diatonically from above. Pls don't spoiler me
Does it save any time to say “KOB?”
Definitely not.
Some of the categories don’t have to do with the music which can bring the score down.
sick
woo
In Chicago we have Pershing road and we all say Perzhing kinda like “Persian”
Damn, they blocked Poinciana? Crap.
Really a bummer. The rest of the album is certainly great, but THAT track practically defines a huge portion of pop music.
I know what Adam's doing. Sometimes I used to pronounce "pizza" just as it's written, and pretend like I didn't notice (and other common but weirdly spelled vs pronounced nouns, and obviously you only do this with people who don't know you, like when you have to dine with random people, or at an event). Mainly, it's just to mess with peoples' reality. Is that an ET in disguise, or a spy? I think I look too normal, to pull that off any more. It helps if you really get into character. I think that sort of thing started because someone I knew was into chaos magic and discordianism, and they were always talking about interfering with habitual perspectives. I had to ask - he starting referring to himself only in the 3rd person, like Gollum, and I just had to ask. And that led down THAT rabbit hole. It was fun, for sure. I used to forward my spam folder to Hormel. That was after they stopped accepting faxes. Yes, we used to spam the fax machines at Spam HQ. Good times.
Oh, I forgot to mention - yes, Peter's pronunciation is the "correct" way, but there are no wrong notes.
The drums are too loud. The brushes....Love the record, though. It may sound better on vinyl.
Good point. I wonder if that track would be improved with a de-esser.
@@thomascordery7951 Might be, if very carefully used.
Might be, if the brushes had their own track.
Pershing: it’s pronounced sha-SHEF-skee
Rating albums is silly, and your rating system really stinks. Having said that, I get a guilty pleasure out of watching this series, and you two are great, so here I am once again.
You’re not wrong.
Don't know this one ... Must admit ...
Resisting the urge to say first 😳
RESIST ! LOL
@@BobMazzo You got the first reply above! And this is the first reply to a reply ...
First reply to the first reply to the first reply lol
I think you should claim your first! After all, the internet runs on puppies, kittens and firsts! I don’t win the lottery much, but I get a little thrill being first.
Drums are brilliant but too loud IMO.
They sure are. Can't believe only a few of us can here it. Great album, though.
I am from Chicago - it is “Per-zhing” … also “Per- zhing” everywhere else
Sorry for being a know it all