I was a royal javelin from 1969 to 1976 I left and moved to Washington state. Joined the army at 18yrs old and never looked back I survived now 61yrs old.
I was part of the 8th div. Towards the end we made a small group of us into the javelins Gestapo like inside police we kept our guy's from using hard drugs
@@jamesrivera7618 your division was by 176th st and Morris ave under johnny javelin correct i got a pic of the javelin gestapo colors with the genie in the middle and it had the puerto rican behind the genie I know what gestapos in the outlaw world im also a outlaw gang historian im also a former navy seal myself my pops was a sgt in the army during nam
True .. but I last lived on 169th and sheridan ave one block off the grand concourse as for the colors I made them there was about only 6 pairs they were bad ass mine being the best cause I took about a month to make them
@@jamesrivera7618 i live by 172nd st and morris i can tell you for a fact the 8th div was one of the biggest divisions around the area you have facebook ?
I'm 41, I used to be in a gang in Phoenix in the 90's. Watching this and looking back at my days in that life, one thing continues to stand out: What attracts kids to gangs is the instinctive understanding of strength in numbers. You're no longer just an individual, you're part of a family, some are disfunctional and some function well together. And when you're young you're subconsciously trying to forge tight relationships with your friends (at least I was) so you'd be solid for the long haul. Obviously things don't always go as planned.. people fall in love, move away, have a change of heart, end up dead or caught in the correctional system. Gangs become a substitute for your actual family but there's no guarantee that the family (gang) you vow loyalty to will be loyal in return. Such is life.
May I quote you, sir? Many Organizations in these United States are attempting to encourage the Black and Brown Community in our USA Region to look "inwards", at (we) ourselves, and as a Community of Persons with shared spaces/environments i.e. neighborhoods, shared interest(s) (a long life, right?), shared circumstances (many of "we" are parents of children we truly do not want to be burying, rather than the other way around), and in reality a shared Struggle (America, in some ways, does seem to 'eat her young'). Personally, I think we Need more Love in our Approach(es). More Love, and better, improved, Understanding of what factors in young children's lives is conducive to those vulnerable youths arriving at identifying with gang identity/gang culture. I think you hit the nail on its head with: "belonging, sense of security/safety in numbers, and protection". Please advise. Thank you.
I'm a native of the Bronx. I'm 52. I got emotional watching this documentary, watching people like Blackie, China, Laurie, Benjy, etc. My mentor was from the Galaxies, and because of him, I standed clear of street life and went to college. There aren't dudes like that anymore. May God bless them.
Interesting doc about 70s New York gangs that inspired movies like "The Warriors". The black & white footage is particularly fascinating because the quality is very good for footage filmed 40+ years ago. The slang, the way they spoke, the attitude, it's very gritty & don't feel old.
Very good documentary. Brought back a lot of memories of how things were in the Bronx back in the day. And how from all that neglect, poverty, and violence came an art form that influenced pop culture, and is still influencing it to this day.
Man this was awsome , my fam and i we left THE BRONX in 72, im 68 now, brought back lot of memories! Joined the ARMY stayed in the ARMY 20 years learned Radiology Technology , still working it will soon retire! living in Jax FL
The new doc Rubble Kings looks to be an updated sleeker version of this film but Flyin' Cut Sleeves is awesome in it's own right! Also cool to see it was directed by Henry Chalfant of Style Wars fame.
Apart from The Warriors The Rogues The Satan’s Mothers and The Turnbull ACs every other gang in that movie doesn’t depict any real life New York street gang
Incredible... brings me back to the 70s, although I was very younf back then. Every time I watch one of these videos, I think of an old friend named Delma, I thought she lived in Sunset Park, but I think she told me she moved to Coney Island, we were in our senior year together in FHHS [class of 83 !!] and while we talked, we knew some of the same writers [grafitti...] for some reason I never had the courage to ask her out. Last time I saw Delma was in Bay Ridge, 77th and 3rd, she was talking to maybe Eddie ?? who had a blue Nova at the time, Delma was decked out in a dungarees Jacket and mini skrt, no shoes she was barefoot in the street.. man, Delama was hard !! but I was on the 3rd ave bus, and missed her............. and to this day Delma denies that was her, and maybe she's right because today she is Iris living down south. This film was incredible, it just gets better and better and deeper as it goes on, especially past the 50 min mark. A lot of people fail to realize the positive aspects the gangs had on their communities back in the day, how they were instrumental and getting programs set up for the school kids, like breakfast and lunch, among other things.... funny, you never see stuff liek this in the good neighborhoods. Makes you wonder, don't it... Thank you so much for posting this film.
@@leehodges8422 Since news spread of Mr. Melendez’s death on May 28 at 64, after a long illness and a heart attack, his wife has been overwhelmed by an outpouring of love for a man whose political awakening - not to mention his charisma, optimism and musical skills - transformed young lives and helped break the cycle of violence among warring cliques when he brokered a historic truce in 1971. www.nytimes.com/2017/06/04/nyregion/benjy-melendez-bronx.html
19:58 Love this Picture. I grew up in Chicago where the gangs used to wear the sweaters with the patches. For the most part the white, mexican and puerto rican gangs...I remember I stole a book from the library about 70's new york gangs. Sagave Nomads, Dirty Ones, etc. The first name of the Author was Sandra. Wish I still had that book. I was obsessed with that culture.
This was a great Doc... You could only find this in the library. It was almost too ahead of its time, the Bronx was just as bad in 1990, if not worse in murders than in the mid 70's. This was also Pre-"Rubble Kings", almost exactly the same, without fancy editing.
It sickens me to see children who never got to be children. I know this experience under sonewhat different circumstances. They say what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I see this here ✊🏽
Excellent documentary. All politicians and law enforcement should watch this. Our youth today need help. These neighborhoods needs help. The same problems still exist.
I am 63 and THESE are the streets I grew up on. This may sound crazy but I would rather go through every minute of back then again, than to be here now.💀 That was real, back then… today is unreal, fake, insulting and not worth a damn. One day real soon everybody will realize and it’ll be too late.
You must have it really bad if you hate today and think its unreal. Leave tik twitter and with mates and family life is very real, tough sometimes, but real.
At the end of this, what really makes me wonder is if The Ghetto Brothers will ever do another album, because in my opinion, that is one of the greatest albums I've ever heard in my life.
I think I knew that lady name Lorine Padilla, her daughter baylit and brother went to the public school CS150! Wow how amazing is this doc. The way things were compare to now it's a very big change!!
I wouldn't call the attire of New York 70"s street gangs fashion but more of a uniform. The Street Gangs of that era looked to the more well known Motor Cycle Gangs for examples of Structure and Public Image, thus the denim jackets with the Top Rocker, Middle Logo, Bottom Rocker layout, also the structure of hierarchy that mimics the military was also copied from Biker Gangs. Early Rap Music fashion was influenced by NY Street Gangs as well as late 70's glam rock. The early professional rap music performers were faced with the decision of what should the costume / wardrobe of these new performers consist of thus in the beginning you see rappers (ex. Sugar Hill Gang) wearing normal street clothes then a few years latter you start to see the leather pants and ripped shirts (ex. Furious Five, Kurtis Blow) as those artist were emulating what was seen in rock shows. It was Russell Simmons who insisted Run (his brother) and partner DMC dress like the groups newest addition DJ Jam Master Jay, who was a veteran of NYC street life and wore the flashy clothing that street hustlers of that era commonly wore. With the wild success of Run - DMC from that point on the trend in rap music has been to copy the inner city street fashion trends.
Very true my dad God rest his soul was a savage skull and he told me a lot of the old gangs got inspired by the hells angels because they represented true freedom
Helped my brother clean his basement and we came across a binder he had of a hundred "business cards" from Chicago gangs from the 70s-80s. Crazy they made business cards with their aliases on it
@@1503ONERUS I was told they were like a get out of jail card . They gave them to friends who were non members . If the friend ever gets pressed by a fellow gang member or rival gang they could show the card and they ether knew you was homies with a member or the gang would back the non gang member up if another gang started problems.
People saying they miss these times or that they wish today was like this haha no no you don't you can't fathom what these people lived through, it was dangerous times back then
Yeah, but the cities were full of creative energy and cheap places to live. If you watched your back you'd survive fine. And there was great music and shit going on. It was great.
So you prefer being constantly judged, surveillance recording your every move, speech/messages recorded via social media & being constantly blamed for your predecessors from hundreds of years ago nowadays? Nah, gimme freedom anyday of the week.
George i met you this morning on the beach in Aguada. I thoroughly enjoyed watching your video. Please finish this project and get it out there for people to view an integral part of NYC history. Bwell Brother
@Sash Lilac HI Sash, this video address was given too me by the man who alledged to have made it. His name is George, met him on the beach in Aguada Puerto Rico
this is where hip hop was born. im surprised they didnt show pablo guzman and geraldo rivera in this documentary because they were part of the young lordz as well.
+IAN m The punk biker look was so cool looking! All the movies used punks and these kinds of looking fellas to play bad guys in movies all through the 80s. When i was a kid I thought all gangs were punks with mohawks and spikes. But then I found out when I got older gangs just sagged their pants and wore boring and dumb looking clothes.
im a teenager from the south bronx and yes its not how it use to be but their is still some young cats trying to bring positivity to the borough and gradually trying to bring it back on its feet
“These were very bright young people who, if born into other families, could have been senators, congressmen, and community leaders.” 52:40 They should be now, capitalism, poverty, and racism be damned.
Most middle class white people don't have to face racism, poverty, or a lack of education & opportunity, on a daily basis. Most middle class white people are either blind, ignorant, or just plain don't want to know, & so don't care. Treat people like animals, & they'll act like animals. There's still a hell of a lot more educating needed to be done. :-( Thanks for posting.
wow i remember being scared to walk down certain streets in the north bronx having white angels on one side golden ginnies on the other and having to alter my route home not knowing if i would make it home or to school!!
ftnrbhmwk Most slang has been around for decades. It's weird, some shit I found being used back in the 1930s even. Some changes obviously, but we still use much of the same.
Incredible documentary. Thank You very much for uploading it on RUclips. These were very exciting times to be young and alive, that's for sure. I would love to take a time machine and visit 70's/80's/90's New York.. Well, it's all gone now.. glad that I can at least watch this and get some feeling about how it was like.
Those young dudes in that gym were so dynamic in their speaking! Some people really have that leadership quality! It's just amazing to see it in young ppl! Tupac was like that. Young and fierce..... Just around the wing energy but was so gifted!
This is a must see...especially for those who are clueless about the core of the hip hop culture and those whom are oblivious to the turmoil urban youth face in their communities
@@billreid818 these group of people gave rise to that generation you speak of. Similar to around here where the generation before us still had a decent (but "humble") upbringing but got into meth. Now a generation of dope addicts raise there kid and gave them a shitty upbringing. Some turn like coal into diamonds, but most end up shitty uneducated junkies
Whats the Ghetto Brother song at the end of the video, at 57:38? I can't find it anywhere. It's "I'm your Captain" by Grand Funk Railroad, but I want to hear the Ghetto Brother version at the end of this video.
Love it I grew up in Wilkins ave I kno all the gangs mentioned God bless made me a strong man never peddled their bad habits to the young ones like they do now
See's a pretty girl standing close by: Yeah mah brotha, we tough! The zippits were scared. Real punk stuff. I killed 3 of them that night. (Woop! Woop! Cop lights) Man this is so wrong
This was a very good documentary back in the days brought me back a lot of memories I was very scared when I was small I was like 9 8 or 9 and 10 years old when he's games were out there I was bullied in school but hang in there I got friendly with a lot of gang members they were tough times for Puerto Ricans back then but the city used to help out a lot and Welfare and stuff like that giving out free lunches and breakfast in the morning summer some areas in the Bronx now you don't see that that much everybody's taking advantage of the system more kids back then we used to play in the streets we will more in good health most Puerto Ricans now have good jobs and living a good life and they are more educated and have high position jobs in the city things will get better thanks for the good memories my name is Hector known as p u t i and I approve this message
I think my generation was the last to experience the Bronx being broken down. I miss it and when I visit my old neighborhood, it’s so different that its almost shocking. Where there used to be piles on piles of trash on stained concrete are now trees. School yards of garbage, broken glass, food and crack tubes are now a clean environment for parking and for kids to play during recess. No graffiti. The bodegas not smelling like cat piss. People standing on the corner. Abandoned buildings are gone and so are the unfriendly empty parks. It’s kind of...bizarre. The positive change, I’m grateful for. But a part of me misses the crap.
took me back to a sad time in my life, but thank God I survived! my question is where the hell was the help from Geraldo Rivera, he was a Young Lord or is it Gerry Rivers the fake Puerto Rican?!
It seems that with people that live like this, a little compassion goes a long way (Due to the preceding absence thereof). So with that being said, regardless of the efforts of things like "community outreach", there must be something much stronger pulling them in the opposite direction.
Man thats crazy! Tell blackie he should write a biography about his life, especially around the time he was growing up in NY and started the skulls ... ,not much info on those times in the gangs besides this doc an 80 blocks from Tiffany's
My dad grew in the Bronx and actually knew a few guys in the Savage skulls. It’s interesting to watch documentaries about the gangs of NYC in the 70’s.
Ms. Padilla is correct. Ask questions. What is going on in their lives. In their community. Kids are kids. Chaos creates more chaos. Don't expect these kids to do right. But assume they WANT to do right 💕💕💕
I grew up in similiar neighbourhood and was great fun at times but there was always violence and lots of bullys in fact between 1974 and 1990 there was 5 murders in my block alone
This was way better than Rubble Kings. I liked how this doc, as compared to Rubble Kings, had more about what the more political gangs members were doing later in life to positively change their enviroment. I wish more people would wake up to who the real oppressors are and their shady distracting ways and that to make a difference you don't need to be a Jordan or a Clinton, you can effect change in your own community in many different ways, and not just the conventional medias portral of what is esentially a "money'd hero". Maybe someone should do a doc as to what these people are up to in their comunities in another 10-20 years?
My father told me when I was young : " When you do good, no one remembers ... but, when you do wrong , no one forgets."
That's pretty stupid - what about Oscar Schindler?he did good and everyone remembers him, they made a movie about him
52958 True indeed
TheThepusherman7 lol. no one remembered him ... till they made the movie. more rememnered barbie, mendolson, etc.
@Andy T Latin so bachelors much love old school bangers P3 Lee p i t o......cypress ave.b.l.s.1418
@@TheThepusherman7 it's very true. You can do a world of good, but one significant mess up, that poses to ruin that good.
I was a royal javelin from 1969 to 1976 I left and moved to Washington state. Joined the army at 18yrs old and never looked back I survived now 61yrs old.
Which division of the royal javelins were you in i know few royal javelins from different divisions
I was part of the 8th div. Towards the end we made a small group of us into the javelins Gestapo like inside police we kept our guy's from using hard drugs
@@jamesrivera7618 your division was by 176th st and Morris ave under johnny javelin correct i got a pic of the javelin gestapo colors with the genie in the middle and it had the puerto rican behind the genie
I know what gestapos in the outlaw world im also a outlaw gang historian im also a former navy seal myself my pops was a sgt in the army during nam
True .. but I last lived on 169th and sheridan ave one block off the grand concourse as for the colors I made them there was about only 6 pairs they were bad ass mine being the best cause I took about a month to make them
@@jamesrivera7618 i live by 172nd st and morris i can tell you for a fact the 8th div was one of the biggest divisions around the area you have facebook ?
I worked as one of the editors on this back in College, great experience and I learned a ton. So glad to see that it is still out there.
Thank you sir!
Amazing work by you and the crew. Love this documentary.
@Jeremy Stillwell We pulled as much as the old footage that we could get, there was some stuff that got cut but not much from what was shot first.
thanks. what year was it?
@@tree-hutlastname4008 This back in 1992-1993
My family were members of "The Javelins" this is an amazing documentary. I love the fact that I could see my old neighbor hood in these clips.
Which division they belonged to?
I'm 41, I used to be in a gang in Phoenix in the 90's. Watching this and looking back at my days in that life, one thing continues to stand out: What attracts kids to gangs is the instinctive understanding of strength in numbers. You're no longer just an individual, you're part of a family, some are disfunctional and some function well together. And when you're young you're subconsciously trying to forge tight relationships with your friends (at least I was) so you'd be solid for the long haul. Obviously things don't always go as planned.. people fall in love, move away, have a change of heart, end up dead or caught in the correctional system. Gangs become a substitute for your actual family but there's no guarantee that the family (gang) you vow loyalty to will be loyal in return. Such is life.
FACTS💯💯💯💯
@Dsmv The less intelligent perspective
Facts,that's real.
May I quote you, sir? Many Organizations in these United States are attempting to encourage the Black and Brown Community in our USA Region to look "inwards", at (we) ourselves, and as a Community of Persons with shared spaces/environments i.e. neighborhoods, shared interest(s) (a long life, right?), shared circumstances (many of "we" are parents of children we truly do not want to be burying, rather than the other way around), and in reality a shared Struggle (America, in some ways, does seem to 'eat her young'). Personally, I think we Need more Love in our Approach(es). More Love, and better, improved, Understanding of what factors in young children's lives is conducive to those vulnerable youths arriving at identifying with gang identity/gang culture. I think you hit the nail on its head with: "belonging, sense of security/safety in numbers, and protection". Please advise. Thank you.
@Dsmv Perhaps. But then again.....
I'm a native of the Bronx. I'm 52. I got emotional watching this documentary, watching people like Blackie, China, Laurie, Benjy, etc. My mentor was from the Galaxies, and because of him, I standed clear of street life and went to college. There aren't dudes like that anymore. May God bless them.
I was same , we left in the 80s but nothing but best memories, but I was a kid . Different world really
Interesting doc about 70s New York gangs that inspired movies like "The Warriors". The black & white footage is particularly fascinating because the quality is very good for footage filmed 40+ years ago. The slang, the way they spoke, the attitude, it's very gritty & don't feel old.
Very good documentary. Brought back a lot of memories of how things were in the Bronx back in the day. And how from all that neglect, poverty, and violence came an art form that influenced pop culture, and is still influencing it to this day.
Man this was awsome , my fam and i we left THE BRONX in 72, im 68 now, brought back lot of memories! Joined the ARMY stayed in the ARMY 20 years learned Radiology Technology , still working it will soon retire! living in Jax FL
The new doc Rubble Kings looks to be an updated sleeker version of this film but Flyin' Cut Sleeves is awesome in it's own right! Also cool to see it was directed by Henry Chalfant of Style Wars fame.
I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT AM LOOKING AT "BLACK BELT BENJI" ON THIS RUclips VIDEO. AM LEE. ITS BEEN OVER 45 YEARS ...WOW!
Hope everything is well with u OG.
Rip to Benji
The Warriors is one, but a modern film with an old school plot would be insane!
The Warriors is a classic. I love that movie.
Hey if they can do it with Star Wars then anything’s possible
Trust me, they need a remake
Apart from The Warriors The Rogues The Satan’s Mothers and The Turnbull ACs every other gang in that movie doesn’t depict any real life New York street gang
@@patriotamerican3426 what about the orphans 🤣🤣
That tears it. I'm officially obsessed with '70s gangs in New York.
I remember those dayz.
Have you seen 80 blocks from Tiffany's?
Jane Doh they got a fresh style too. That biker outlaw look was 💯
John Williams well, if you was there then you would take it very seriously trust me.
John Williams ok tough guy. That’s what they all say.
I have this documentary on DVD. And I happen to love it very much since it's about the 1970s in NYC.
Incredible... brings me back to the 70s, although I was very younf back then.
Every time I watch one of these videos, I think of an old friend named Delma, I thought she lived in Sunset Park, but I think she told me she moved to Coney Island, we were in our senior year together in FHHS [class of 83 !!] and while we talked, we knew some of the same writers [grafitti...] for some reason I never had the courage to ask her out.
Last time I saw Delma was in Bay Ridge, 77th and 3rd, she was talking to maybe Eddie ?? who had a blue Nova at the time, Delma was decked out in a dungarees Jacket and mini skrt, no shoes she was barefoot in the street.. man, Delama was hard !! but I was on the 3rd ave bus, and missed her............. and to this day Delma denies that was her, and maybe she's right because today she is Iris living down south.
This film was incredible, it just gets better and better and deeper as it goes on, especially past the 50 min mark.
A lot of people fail to realize the positive aspects the gangs had on their communities back in the day, how they were instrumental and getting programs set up for the school kids, like breakfast and lunch, among other things.... funny, you never see stuff liek this in the good neighborhoods.
Makes you wonder, don't it...
Thank you so much for posting this film.
You can tell this is a good genuine person here ^
RIP Benjamin Melendez 1952 - May 28, 2017
R Montana hi there if you don’t mind could you tell me what he died of????
@@leehodges8422 Since news spread of Mr. Melendez’s death on May 28 at 64, after a long illness and a heart attack, his wife has been overwhelmed by an outpouring of love for a man whose political awakening - not to mention his charisma, optimism and musical skills - transformed young lives and helped break the cycle of violence among warring cliques when he brokered a historic truce in 1971.
www.nytimes.com/2017/06/04/nyregion/benjy-melendez-bronx.html
Thank you for posting this video . I enjoyed watching it, it's all about unity and respect . Now we just have to preach it,and take action !!
Incredible documentary. Thank you.
19:58 Love this Picture. I grew up in Chicago where the gangs used to wear the sweaters with the patches. For the most part the white, mexican and puerto rican gangs...I remember I stole a book from the library about 70's new york gangs. Sagave Nomads, Dirty Ones, etc. The first name of the Author was Sandra. Wish I still had that book. I was obsessed with that culture.
What happened to the book x)
Bro is so honest with the stolen book.
Great documentary! Thanks for the upload!
This was a great Doc... You could only find this in the library. It was almost too ahead of its time, the Bronx was just as bad in 1990, if not worse in murders than in the mid 70's.
This was also Pre-"Rubble Kings", almost exactly the same, without fancy editing.
Kelsey Charter
34 murders in 1970. How many in 1989?
It sickens me to see children who never got to be children.
I know this experience under sonewhat different circumstances. They say what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I see this here ✊🏽
It’s wild how a lot of the gangs in NYC went from hurting to rebuilding the community, such an awesome thing.
Stop the VIOLENCE,Make a change,Were all in the SAME gang..Lets Build!!!
Excellent documentary. All politicians and law enforcement should watch this. Our youth today need help. These neighborhoods needs help. The same problems still exist.
Feels Great To See My Parents Are Still Alive After Watching Them In This video...
Which one are they?
🤥
Nigga they dead this video is old.
@@earlyculyer4103 lol
It’s the 70’s my dude it’s not that old you brain dead idiot.
Thanks for making this.
I am 63 and THESE are the streets I grew up on. This may sound crazy but I would rather go through every minute of back then again, than to be here now.💀
That was real, back then… today is unreal, fake, insulting and not worth a damn. One day real soon everybody will realize and it’ll be too late.
shut up old head
You must have it really bad if you hate today and think its unreal. Leave tik twitter and with mates and family life is very real, tough sometimes, but real.
Thanks for posting!
At the end of this, what really makes me wonder is if The Ghetto Brothers will ever do another album, because in my opinion, that is one of the greatest albums I've ever heard in my life.
Thanks for the info gonna check it out
Yeah that album is funky as hell. Bboy shit.
awesome album but benji melendez passed away a couple of years ago.
They are all dead
I think I knew that lady name Lorine Padilla, her daughter baylit and brother went to the public school CS150! Wow how amazing is this doc. The way things were compare to now it's a very big change!!
I wouldn't call the attire of New York 70"s street gangs fashion but more of a uniform. The Street Gangs of that era looked to the more well known Motor Cycle Gangs for examples of Structure and Public Image, thus the denim jackets with the Top Rocker, Middle Logo, Bottom Rocker layout, also the structure of hierarchy that mimics the military was also copied from Biker Gangs.
Early Rap Music fashion was influenced by NY Street Gangs as well as late 70's glam rock. The early professional rap music performers were faced with the decision of what should the costume / wardrobe of these new performers consist of thus in the beginning you see rappers (ex. Sugar Hill Gang) wearing normal street clothes then a few years latter you start to see the leather pants and ripped shirts (ex. Furious Five, Kurtis Blow) as those artist were emulating what was seen in rock shows. It was Russell Simmons who insisted Run (his brother) and partner DMC dress like the groups newest addition DJ Jam Master Jay, who was a veteran of NYC street life and wore the flashy clothing that street hustlers of that era commonly wore. With the wild success of Run - DMC from that point on the trend in rap music has been to copy the inner city street fashion trends.
*era
Very true my dad God rest his soul was a savage skull and he told me a lot of the old gangs got inspired by the hells angels because they represented true freedom
Most of the gangs are motorcycle clubs now like the Dirty Ones The Savage Nomads
these were my days and I know most of these people, awesome doc, thanks for the memories....PALANTE!
I love this documentary , definitely in my top three, thank you
VERY GOOD DOCUMENTARY.
Helped my brother clean his basement and we came across a binder he had of a hundred "business cards" from Chicago gangs from the 70s-80s. Crazy they made business cards with their aliases on it
Their called compliment cards
I woukd love to see them! Bet their worth something too now.
They did same thing in Cali. Cause with a business card . Your considered a SOCIAL CLUB not a gang = no enhancements, no curfew, ect
@@1503ONERUS
I was told they were like a get out of jail card . They gave them to friends who were non members . If the friend ever gets pressed by a fellow gang member or rival gang they could show the card and they ether knew you was homies with a member or the gang would back the non gang member up if another gang started problems.
Great stuff...Thanx from England.
Thank you for this jewel of a documentary
ty for uploading this movie...
great documentary, thanks.
2 years have passed & watching the doc again lol 💜💙💚💛
People saying they miss these times or that they wish today was like this haha no no you don't you can't fathom what these people lived through, it was dangerous times back then
Yeah, but the cities were full of creative energy and cheap places to live. If you watched your back you'd survive fine. And there was great music and shit going on. It was great.
So you prefer being constantly judged, surveillance recording your every move, speech/messages recorded via social media & being constantly blamed for your predecessors from hundreds of years ago nowadays? Nah, gimme freedom anyday of the week.
Miguel Cervantes I’m from this time and still wish for these days today’s world sux
Still dangerous now in these times
@Channel It must have been very oppressive to live in that environment. It certainly doesn't look like a place where people were set up to prosper.
now this is what im talkin bout... what an excellent documentary... thank you very much.
These gangs where the real gangs. These young, punks we got today are a bunch of cowards.
"So we made it an un-racial problem." Right on man
I grew up in New York South Bronx Brook Avenue I remember those days good days and bad days
Damn time have changed hope everyone in this film found peace with themselves
Rip, Benji Melendez. My teacher and mentor
What's his story, if you don't mind me asking?
fantastic post. thank you.
George i met you this morning on the beach in Aguada. I thoroughly enjoyed watching your video. Please finish this project and get it out there for people to view an integral part of NYC history. Bwell Brother
@Sash Lilac HI Sash, this video address was given too me by the man who alledged to have made it. His name is George, met him on the beach in Aguada Puerto Rico
No problems brother, thanks for watching.
this is where hip hop was born. im surprised they didnt show pablo guzman and geraldo rivera in this documentary because they were part of the young lordz as well.
Yeah they're already out the gang , moving on with their life
New York and L.A gangs are like night and day
L.A. gangs don't TALK as much.
I find it fascinating how the fashion went from a punk biker look to the hip hop look in 5 years or so.
***** No one has ever accused the Yanks of being original.
***** More like 15-20 years. The punk & biker look was prominent throughout the 70's & 80's.
+IAN m The punk biker look was so cool looking! All the movies used punks and these kinds of looking fellas to play bad guys in movies all through the 80s. When i was a kid I thought all gangs were punks with mohawks and spikes. But then I found out when I got older gangs just sagged their pants and wore boring and dumb looking clothes.
+Kaan Kaant (Kaankaant) Don't know where your from or for that matter do I care, but most of ,if not all of recent pop culture originates with yanks.
Erm, fuck no kiddo!
Did SKA originate in Yankyville?
im a teenager from the south bronx and yes its not how it use to be but their is still some young cats trying to bring positivity to the borough and gradually trying to bring it back on its feet
great story good information
“These were very bright young people who, if born into other families, could have been senators, congressmen, and community leaders.” 52:40
They should be now, capitalism, poverty, and racism be damned.
Did you ever notice white people don't need Community leaders
tolfan elaborate
None of those things require integrity or intelligence, especially if your district lacks people those two things.
tolfan
They’re called ministers, preachers, Klan leaders, and Priests.
Most middle class white people don't have to face racism, poverty, or a lack of education & opportunity, on a daily basis.
Most middle class white people are either blind, ignorant, or just plain don't want to know, & so don't care.
Treat people like animals, & they'll act like animals.
There's still a hell of a lot more educating needed to be done. :-(
Thanks for posting.
It's great to see how these guys were still behind their community - but NY sadly as t the same.
The babies are so adorable!
Make em proud, Pops 💕💕💕💕💕
Always bringing a brother down !
wow i remember being scared to walk down certain streets in the north bronx having white angels on one side golden ginnies on the other and having to alter my route home not knowing if i would make it home or to school!!
Ron Smith were those Italian gangs ?
Yea north bronx got a little italy too
Lol golden ginnies is a bitchin name for a click
RESPECT & THANK YOU.
Did he say , ''hey YO'' in 1970?? Damn New Yorkers been saying YO....Lol
ftnrbhmwk Most slang has been around for decades. It's weird, some shit I found being used back in the 1930s even. Some changes obviously, but we still use much of the same.
yo is just iam in spanish man
yo is a 50s term buddy boy
...Razor Ramon!
Yo is also a Jersey & Philly thing.
It’s 2020 and nothing has changed
Absolute brilliant documentary brilliant ✌🏻♥️💯%
Incredible documentary. Thank You very much for uploading it on RUclips. These were very exciting times to be young and alive, that's for sure. I would love to take a time machine and visit 70's/80's/90's New York.. Well, it's all gone now.. glad that I can at least watch this and get some feeling about how it was like.
Those young dudes in that gym were so dynamic in their speaking! Some people really have that leadership quality! It's just amazing to see it in young ppl!
Tupac was like that.
Young and fierce.....
Just around the wing energy but was so gifted!
Pre and early Hip Hop era. No MTV, no record deals, no Radio, no
Recorded songs. Just Blacks and Afro Latinos in the Bronx, NY.
Latinos of all shades not just afro
Papi Champú here we go
9:45 is a hard bar! 🔥
This is a must see...especially for those who are clueless about the core of the hip hop culture and those whom are oblivious to the turmoil urban youth face in their communities
This was before hip hop was around...
@@billreid818 these group of people gave rise to that generation you speak of. Similar to around here where the generation before us still had a decent (but "humble") upbringing but got into meth. Now a generation of dope addicts raise there kid and gave them a shitty upbringing. Some turn like coal into diamonds, but most end up shitty uneducated junkies
I was born in 87 but for some reason i feel like i remember this era. Maybe because ive always lived in the south bronx. Patterson houses 🏘 🙌
Whats the Ghetto Brother song at the end of the video, at 57:38? I can't find it anywhere. It's "I'm your Captain" by Grand Funk Railroad, but I want to hear the Ghetto Brother version at the end of this video.
Love it I grew up in Wilkins ave I kno all the gangs mentioned God bless made me a strong man never peddled their bad habits to the young ones like they do now
That teacher that started her filming was a Fn saint!
Great documentary... I was wondering if maybe you have any old home movies from the 70's about the L.E.S GUYS LIKE THE ALLENBOYS
thanks for the upload of the whole documentary,from llanelli wales u.k.
Damn people tellen on they self back then to lol
Self snitching is rife
bow down you don’t understand what this “documentary” means to those who are being interviewed. Tells about how open minded you are.
See's a pretty girl standing close by:
Yeah mah brotha, we tough! The zippits were scared. Real punk stuff. I killed 3 of them that night. (Woop! Woop! Cop lights)
Man this is so wrong
Proud of y'all ❤ "The Meek Shall Inherit The Earth." 🙏👆
This was a very good documentary back in the days brought me back a lot of memories I was very scared when I was small I was like 9 8 or 9 and 10 years old when he's games were out there I was bullied in school but hang in there I got friendly with a lot of gang members they were tough times for Puerto Ricans back then but the city used to help out a lot and Welfare and stuff like that giving out free lunches and breakfast in the morning summer some areas in the Bronx now you don't see that that much everybody's taking advantage of the system more kids back then we used to play in the streets we will more in good health most Puerto Ricans now have good jobs and living a good life and they are more educated and have high position jobs in the city things will get better thanks for the good memories my name is Hector known as p u t i and I approve this message
I think my generation was the last to experience the Bronx being broken down. I miss it and when I visit my old neighborhood, it’s so different that its almost shocking. Where there used to be piles on piles of trash on stained concrete are now trees. School yards of garbage, broken glass, food and crack tubes are now a clean environment for parking and for kids to play during recess. No graffiti. The bodegas not smelling like cat piss. People standing on the corner. Abandoned buildings are gone and so are the unfriendly empty parks. It’s kind of...bizarre. The positive change, I’m grateful for. But a part of me misses the crap.
Yo “Blackie” in every NY hood video lol
Yoooo!!! The ending really was🤯
God bless the youth who were and are unjustly accussed of misdeeds while striving to better their communities & themselves 🙏
No worries, thanks for the comment.
took me back to a sad time in my life, but thank God I survived! my question is where the hell was the help from Geraldo Rivera, he was a Young Lord or is it Gerry Rivers the fake Puerto Rican?!
L.A. PAGAN how was it growing up there brother?
He's Jewish.
geraldo is a pos
Bronx, NY. Early 70's-Hip Hop -It's Just Begun----
THE BX NEED TO COME BACK TOGETHER YALL !
This was really good.
It seems that with people that live like this, a little compassion goes a long way (Due to the preceding absence thereof). So with that being said, regardless of the efforts of things like "community outreach", there must be something much stronger pulling them in the opposite direction.
I like that song " higher"
Wow I know Blackie fromthe Savage Skulls He is still in there.
He's still in the Bronx???
+cjbotts yup
Man thats crazy! Tell blackie he should write a biography about his life, especially around the time he was growing up in NY and started the skulls ... ,not much info on those times in the gangs besides this doc an 80 blocks from Tiffany's
hey mate is blackie still alive?? ready like this documentary
What gang did the savage skulls for into?
People are confusing the two Black Benji's. The Black Benji in this doc is still alive
THE REAL WARRIORS!
First time watching this, interesting doc, nice to see Henry Chalfont’s name at the end of it too
My dad grew in the Bronx and actually knew a few guys in the Savage skulls. It’s interesting to watch documentaries about the gangs of NYC in the 70’s.
Ms. Padilla is correct. Ask questions. What is going on in their lives. In their community. Kids are kids. Chaos creates more chaos. Don't expect these kids to do right. But assume they WANT to do right 💕💕💕
great moments in street history
sleepdep Looks like they were haveing some great times!!!! These people lived in poverty
This dude reminds me of D'Angelo Barksdale.
Army of Ninjas Ha! Agreed
it's crazy seeing the club being active way back in the day and even now in 2013 (you do the math)
I grew up in similiar neighbourhood and was great fun at times but there was always violence and lots of bullys in fact between 1974 and 1990 there was 5 murders in my block alone
This was way better than Rubble Kings. I liked how this doc, as compared to Rubble Kings, had more about what the more political gangs members were doing later in life to positively change their enviroment. I wish more people would wake up to who the real oppressors are and their shady distracting ways and that to make a difference you don't need to be a Jordan or a Clinton, you can effect change in your own community in many different ways, and not just the conventional medias portral of what is esentially a "money'd hero". Maybe someone should do a doc as to what these people are up to in their comunities in another 10-20 years?