Thanks for watching our brief tour of our current home city! It's a smaller city, but we've come to really appreciate all that it has to offer. Now we want to know: Have YOU ever been to Illinois?? Let us know in the comments below!
Hahaha I KNOW. I think that happens to everyone who lives in a semi-touristy area. They see it so much that they often forget just how cool their home is! But yeah, our downtown is actually pretty cool and has some unique sites!
Oh that's cool! Yeah, we really like Springfield and think there is a lot more to do here than people give it credit for. Have you done a lot of the things we mentioned in the video?
The fries represent the nails of the shoe. The sizzling platter is supposed to represent the hot anvil...while the name horseshoe comes from the shape of the ham used on the original sandwich
Hey Ruth and Tom. Just discovered your channel today. 2-16-22. While just looking at videos on RUclips for Springfield Illinois. That’s my wife and I’s Hometown. Born and Raised. But moved to Texas in October 2020. I like all the shots you took in your video of Springfield. Brings back memories. We miss it there. The Restaurants, our family, but growing up there we seen everything there is to see. Ya know. But the main reason we moved away, simply, was the weather. We just couldn’t stand the winters anymore. But just wanted to say it’s cool to see a video on RUclips highlighting Springfield. A lot of people down here have never even heard of it. So Thanks for putting one up! Down here there’s no Culver’s, Hardee’s, etc.. So there’s things we miss a lot there. Take Care.
Oh cool! We kind of did the opposite haha - we lived in the Texas hill country for a little bit, but then moved to Springfield in 2017. We really enjoyed the hill country - TEXAS IS BEAUTIFUL. But thanks so much for your support! We think Springfield has so much more to offer than people give it credit for and it became a nice home for us. NO CULVER'S?? That's so sad.. guess you'll just have to supplement with Whataburger haha
@@RuthandThomas Springfield is a nice homey town to raise a family. But the winters are just too brutal. We originally wanted to move to Florida cause we Love Florida, but our plans fell through so we picked another warm state.
@@lowendthumper205 I lived for 25 years in those brutal winters and moved to Chicago when I was about 25. Met my husband there and 2-3 years later moved to Missouri where my husband was from. And I always tease my daughter that she had a song written about her. Allen Sherman sang a song entitled "I Was Born In Lutheran Deaconess Hospital in Chicago, IL". I lived one block from Lincoln Park and one block from the Hugh Hefner mansion.
Yes!! It was so cool to meet up with other creators in REAL LIFE after seeing so many of their videos. We could have talked about RUclips stuff for a week. 😂 Thanks for checking out our video!
I went to Springfield last summer and we had a really fun time! I was surprised how good the food was, from horseshoe sandwiches to cozy dogs to Maid-Rite.
I grew up in Springfield, IL and Girard, IL. I always remember that our first house in Springfield cost us all of $7,000. Boy, haven't prices went up a lot?
very cool video, guys... we have Springfield on our list along with about 100 other places,... You know what I'm saying... lol I think I'm looking most forward to the horseshoe though.... hmmm haha
Thanks guys! haha yeah, the horseshoe really is one of the coolest things Springfield has to offer. It's not the healthiest meal you've ever eaten, nor is it the tastiest, but it is an experience that everyone should have at least once in their life 😂
I'm considering moving to Springfield from a suburb about 30 minutes out from Chicago. I decided to randomly look on Zillow and found some places that were 1-2 bedrooms for $600-$700 a month, something unheard of where I am. The lowest price around me is $1200 per month! So after seeing that I decided to do some research and found your video! It's super interesting to see all these cool places, I really hope I can move out there soon. I found out my job has a location in Springfield as well, so I'm really hoping to transfer! I got to go to see The Lincoln Museum and Lincoln's Tomb when I was in school for a field trip, it was so cool and I did rub Lincoln's nose haha. I hope to do it again sometime soon :)
That is so cool to hear!! Springfield is certainly a very affordable place to live, especially when comparing it to somewhere like Chicago!! Good luck with the transfer and let us know if you have any more questions about Springfield!
I hung out at Lincolns home as my Mom used to give the tours. I used to sneak behind the roped off areas and just hang out and fantasize I lived there.
Welcome back guys! Hope all is well and good to see you guys out filming again! The horseshoe sandwich looked...well...notorious... holy smokes😮😮😮. I'd be lights out after that😵
Thanks! Glad to be back. I don't know how regularly we'll be posting videos, but it sure feels good to be back at it for a bit! And hahaha yeah, the horseshoe is something else. I think when it was originally invented it was more of a classy dish - with homemade potato wedges, thinly sliced cuts of pork and sauce on the side. But now it's just the epitome of midwest bar food, and (if I'm being honest) I have yet to eat one that is truly delicious 😂😂
Awesome thanks for sharing! Moved to Springfield Illinois 4 years ago. We take a walk everyday in historic west Springfield. I post videos of homes and clips of our walks on facebook. Great to know you live here!!! Blessings Salo👍❤
The Knights Action water park and family fun center looks like a decent, medium sized place. Glad you are back, hope you enjoyed the rest of your trip south.
Yeah! Knight's Action is pretty fun and families around here get season passes and go quite frequently in the summer. We've only been to the waterpark a few times, but we really like to go there for the drive-in and mini-golf. It's the only place in town to go mini-golfing!!
OK We like this for a few reasons, mainly because Thomas edited it (nothing wrong with Ruth's work - just the fact that both of y'all are doing it!) and also because you did a collab vlog with fellow RUclipsrs! Keep up the great work, you two ❤️
Thanks so much, guys! We had so much fun with our first collab and are excited to have 2 editors for the channel. Also, it was so much more fun than I anticipated! It has been intimidating to me ever since Ruth first expressed interest in making videos, but now I'm actually pretty stoked to learn a lot more about it and learn some new skills!
We’re thinking about a trip to Springfield in the near future with the kids, so this list is great! Plus, we love Carl and Melissa! Thanks so much for sharing these! Great video. 🎉
Whaaaaaat!! Thomas, did you seriously edit that one?? It was amazing! Well done guys, really really cool how you put it all together, such a fun video 🤩
Aw thanks guys! We haven't been consistent over the last few months with posting on RUclips and have had a lot going on, but we're hoping to be more consistent in a few weeks!
Not sure which is more impressive: Lincoln's home or Ruth's strength! WOW! HEY SANTOS CREW! We know them a bit...Melissa, of course, in Cubs gear... OK, Horseshoe speed eating contest...without hands! Must..do... You have TWO Capitol buildings. Lucky...and the new one is taller than the one in DC? Frank Lloyd Wright? A Wisconsin guy! We want vid of you two sledding at Centennial Park! Oh, the Lincoln Museum...saving the best for last. That will rock.
Aw thanks 😊We put so much work into our videos and it's encouraging to know that it's appreciated! We've had to take a break recently, but we're planning some big trips in the next few months and will definitely be making many videos like this!
Thank you so much!!! This was Thomas' first go at editing a video and I'm so impressed with how he did! Pretty cool to think that Reese Witherspoon graced our small city...
Thanks for reaching out! We are safe and healthy.. We've just been busy with some international travel and also the newest thing is that we're expecting a baby! So, there's been a lot going on haha. Hope you and your family are doing well!
@@RuthandThomas Aye yaaaaaaaaaa!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!! What a crazy 2021 it's been for your guys! Sell your home, international travel, and a little R&T!! Hooooooooo man! No videos on the travel??? I'm guessing the course has changed for 2022 with the little guest on the way?
I'm from Springfield. When everyone does the Lincoln tour of Springfield, they never visit New Salem. The first place Lincoln lived in Illinois. Is it no longer open?
We were thinking of visiting Springfield and found your video. Looks like an awesome place to visit. We're thinking of something to do Easter weekend ☺️. We also subscribed so we can keep up on your adventures. Steve and Sandee
Hey, that’s us. I have been excited to watch this. Love all the additional graphics. What do you guys use to edit? Lincoln home is a classic. I think I’m still full from that horseshoe. We feel famous making it to your video. Springfield is such a beautiful place. I like Thomas 360 tour. Nice drone shots. I was named after Frank Lloyd Wright (Carl Lloyd). I think Lincoln’s Tomb is my favorite spot in Springfield. Oh man, we have to go to that drive in. Cool video guys. Oh yea 0:47 I think we just jumped into the movie TENET 😂
OH MY GOSH THE TENET MOMENT! 😂😂😂 Thomas edited the whole video so I didn't notice that until you pointed it out! Hilarious! We use Final Cut Pro now instead of iMovie so that's enabled us to play around a lot more with editing! Last I heard you had FCP but hadn't made the switch yet right? Also SO COOL that you were named after Wright!!! You're going to have to go to all of his houses or something as tribute! Thanks again for being in our video and sorry for the massive delay in posting.
@@RuthandThomas Love the movie TENET!!! Yea I switched to Final Cut Pro about two weeks ago and loved it. But adding all the fin stuff sure adds to the editing time. Has to be nice to have 2 editors in the household. Great job Thomas!!!!
We've actually never been shockingly!! But my mom went a couple weeks ago while I was at work and she said it was well worth it, so it's high on our to do list!
Hello. I will be moving to Springfield soon for business reasons. What 2-3 areas do you recommend for living? I will be needing a 1 or 2 bedroom rental apartment, nothing fancy, and will be moving by myself. I guess I have a budget of $800-900 per month. Thank you in advance.
Hi there! Yes, Chatham is a nice area to live as well as anything on the west side of town. The area around Washington Park (like a 1 mile radius around the park) is a great place to find rentals! A lot of historic, more affordable homes.
There are actually not that many homeless people in Springfield! We’ve got a few homeless shelters and food pantries and you’ll occasionally see them on street corners, but there are not nearly as many as in some of the bigger cities like Chicago or St. Louis.
Thanks for watching our brief tour of our current home city! It's a smaller city, but we've come to really appreciate all that it has to offer. Now we want to know: Have YOU ever been to Illinois?? Let us know in the comments below!
Yes that’s where me and my wife are from. All our lives, grew up in Springfield.
Born and raised in Springfield.
I live in Springfield
I live Downtown Springfield. I see Tourists all the time, and think to myself. This is no big deal! 🤣🤣🤣
Hahaha I KNOW. I think that happens to everyone who lives in a semi-touristy area. They see it so much that they often forget just how cool their home is! But yeah, our downtown is actually pretty cool and has some unique sites!
Nostalgia, I lived in Springfield down town for about 15 months. Thanks for the video.
Oh that's cool! Yeah, we really like Springfield and think there is a lot more to do here than people give it credit for. Have you done a lot of the things we mentioned in the video?
The fries represent the nails of the shoe. The sizzling platter is supposed to represent the hot anvil...while the name horseshoe comes from the shape of the ham used on the original sandwich
Hey Ruth and Tom. Just discovered your channel today. 2-16-22. While just looking at videos on RUclips for Springfield Illinois. That’s my wife and I’s Hometown. Born and Raised. But moved to Texas in October 2020. I like all the shots you took in your video of Springfield. Brings back memories. We miss it there. The Restaurants, our family, but growing up there we seen everything there is to see. Ya know. But the main reason we moved away, simply, was the weather. We just couldn’t stand the winters anymore. But just wanted to say it’s cool to see a video on RUclips highlighting Springfield. A lot of people down here have never even heard of it. So Thanks for putting one up! Down here there’s no Culver’s, Hardee’s, etc.. So there’s things we miss a lot there. Take Care.
Oh cool! We kind of did the opposite haha - we lived in the Texas hill country for a little bit, but then moved to Springfield in 2017. We really enjoyed the hill country - TEXAS IS BEAUTIFUL. But thanks so much for your support! We think Springfield has so much more to offer than people give it credit for and it became a nice home for us. NO CULVER'S?? That's so sad.. guess you'll just have to supplement with Whataburger haha
@@RuthandThomas Springfield is a nice homey town to raise a family. But the winters are just too brutal. We originally wanted to move to Florida cause we Love Florida, but our plans fell through so we picked another warm state.
@@lowendthumper205 I lived for 25 years in those brutal winters and moved to Chicago when I was about 25. Met my husband there and 2-3 years later moved to Missouri where my husband was from. And I always tease my daughter that she had a song written about her. Allen Sherman sang a song entitled "I Was Born In Lutheran Deaconess Hospital in Chicago, IL".
I lived one block from Lincoln Park and one block from the Hugh Hefner mansion.
Great vlog and collab with one of our favorite channels, Santos Chronicles!! Love history and this was a good one!!
Yes!! It was so cool to meet up with other creators in REAL LIFE after seeing so many of their videos. We could have talked about RUclips stuff for a week. 😂 Thanks for checking out our video!
Well done!
Thank you!! So glad you enjoyed the video!
I went to Springfield last summer and we had a really fun time! I was surprised how good the food was, from horseshoe sandwiches to cozy dogs to Maid-Rite.
Love 💕 Springfield IL
Springfield has a lot of character!! We hope it only continues to grow!!
I grew up in Springfield, IL and Girard, IL. I always remember that our first house in Springfield cost us all of $7,000. Boy, haven't prices went up a lot?
very cool video, guys... we have Springfield on our list along with about 100 other places,... You know what I'm saying... lol I think I'm looking most forward to the horseshoe though.... hmmm haha
Thanks guys! haha yeah, the horseshoe really is one of the coolest things Springfield has to offer. It's not the healthiest meal you've ever eaten, nor is it the tastiest, but it is an experience that everyone should have at least once in their life 😂
I'm considering moving to Springfield from a suburb about 30 minutes out from Chicago. I decided to randomly look on Zillow and found some places that were 1-2 bedrooms for $600-$700 a month, something unheard of where I am. The lowest price around me is $1200 per month! So after seeing that I decided to do some research and found your video! It's super interesting to see all these cool places, I really hope I can move out there soon. I found out my job has a location in Springfield as well, so I'm really hoping to transfer! I got to go to see The Lincoln Museum and Lincoln's Tomb when I was in school for a field trip, it was so cool and I did rub Lincoln's nose haha. I hope to do it again sometime soon :)
That is so cool to hear!! Springfield is certainly a very affordable place to live, especially when comparing it to somewhere like Chicago!! Good luck with the transfer and let us know if you have any more questions about Springfield!
I hung out at Lincolns home as my Mom used to give the tours. I used to sneak behind the roped off areas and just hang out and fantasize I lived there.
That’s so cool!! Did you sit at Lincoln’s desk?? 🤯
We should check out more of the parks while in Springfield!
You can check Washington off the list! Just a few more to go!
Welcome back guys! Hope all is well and good to see you guys out filming again! The horseshoe sandwich looked...well...notorious... holy smokes😮😮😮. I'd be lights out after that😵
Thanks! Glad to be back. I don't know how regularly we'll be posting videos, but it sure feels good to be back at it for a bit! And hahaha yeah, the horseshoe is something else. I think when it was originally invented it was more of a classy dish - with homemade potato wedges, thinly sliced cuts of pork and sauce on the side. But now it's just the epitome of midwest bar food, and (if I'm being honest) I have yet to eat one that is truly delicious 😂😂
I used to go to Knight’s Action Park as a kid when I would spend my summers with my family!
That's awesome! It's a pretty cool spot for a city the size of Springfield to have!
Such beautiful video.
This place look beautiful.
My words are less to describe your video.
Thanks for sharing !!!
Thanks for the support! We really like our little town of Springfield and are happy to share it with anyone who comes to visit!
Glad you mentioned the carillon!! Hope to see you next summer for a tour! 😁🔔
Gotta mention the carillon!! Thanks for watching!! 😁
for some reason i enjoy watching vlogs of where i live
Haha we're the same way! We love watching vlogs of places we've lived or places we've visited!!
I'm 13 and have lived here all my life in n my opinion the best place is scheels and Knights action Park and you have to go to cozy dog
Rosalie with the oversized leaf...ADORBS!
😆😂😂
love the master of disguise reference
Right?? Glad someone finally mentioned it - hands down the best part of the video. I don't even think Ruth got the ref.. haha
Awesome thanks for sharing! Moved to Springfield Illinois 4 years ago. We take a walk everyday in historic west Springfield. I post videos of homes and clips of our walks on facebook. Great to know you live here!!! Blessings Salo👍❤
That’s so cool! There are so many beautiful historic homes especially around Washington Park. We love taking walks in that area.
@@RuthandThomas me too!!!
The Knights Action water park and family fun center looks like a decent, medium sized place. Glad you are back, hope you enjoyed the rest of your trip south.
Yeah! Knight's Action is pretty fun and families around here get season passes and go quite frequently in the summer. We've only been to the waterpark a few times, but we really like to go there for the drive-in and mini-golf. It's the only place in town to go mini-golfing!!
OK We like this for a few reasons, mainly because Thomas edited it (nothing wrong with Ruth's work - just the fact that both of y'all are doing it!) and also because you did a collab vlog with fellow RUclipsrs!
Keep up the great work, you two ❤️
Thanks so much, guys! We had so much fun with our first collab and are excited to have 2 editors for the channel. Also, it was so much more fun than I anticipated! It has been intimidating to me ever since Ruth first expressed interest in making videos, but now I'm actually pretty stoked to learn a lot more about it and learn some new skills!
Thanks for the video!🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷
great guide! thank you.
Carl is such a mess trying to eat the pony shoe by hand! 😆
We were so impressed that he just went for it! Definitely have never seen anyone try to eat it that way.
We’re thinking about a trip to Springfield in the near future with the kids, so this list is great! Plus, we love Carl and Melissa! Thanks so much for sharing these! Great video. 🎉
You should totally make a trip out of it!! It's a great place to visit in the summer!
Whaaaaaat!! Thomas, did you seriously edit that one?? It was amazing! Well done guys, really really cool how you put it all together, such a fun video 🤩
Aw thanks guys! It was way more fun than I expected it to be, but definitely still a lot of work haha
Good looks good
Hey friends! Happy to see a vid from our faves!
Aw thanks guys! We haven't been consistent over the last few months with posting on RUclips and have had a lot going on, but we're hoping to be more consistent in a few weeks!
Great video
Thank you!! So glad you enjoyed it!
Not sure which is more impressive: Lincoln's home or Ruth's strength! WOW!
HEY SANTOS CREW! We know them a bit...Melissa, of course, in Cubs gear...
OK, Horseshoe speed eating contest...without hands! Must..do...
You have TWO Capitol buildings. Lucky...and the new one is taller than the one in DC?
Frank Lloyd Wright? A Wisconsin guy!
We want vid of you two sledding at Centennial Park!
Oh, the Lincoln Museum...saving the best for last. That will rock.
Hahaha well if you ever pass through town we can have a horseshoe eating contest
Lincoln’s home was fun to see!!
Have you guys been there?
@@RuthandThomas yes! Such a cool place!
I love this video! Enjoyable yet informative at the same time! More video contents please..
Aw thanks 😊We put so much work into our videos and it's encouraging to know that it's appreciated! We've had to take a break recently, but we're planning some big trips in the next few months and will definitely be making many videos like this!
You to make watching your videos so much fun. I did not know about Legally Blonde 2. That drive in movie would be fun.👍
Thank you so much!!! This was Thomas' first go at editing a video and I'm so impressed with how he did! Pretty cool to think that Reese Witherspoon graced our small city...
6:42 went to the preschool in the bottom left corner
I live in Springfield
I’ve lived in Springfield for 1 year and I can safely say IT SUCKS!!! 😂😂😂😂definitely going back to my beautiful city of Chicago
Hope you guys are safe and healthy~
Thanks for reaching out! We are safe and healthy.. We've just been busy with some international travel and also the newest thing is that we're expecting a baby! So, there's been a lot going on haha. Hope you and your family are doing well!
@@RuthandThomas Aye yaaaaaaaaaa!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!! What a crazy 2021 it's been for your guys! Sell your home, international travel, and a little R&T!! Hooooooooo man! No videos on the travel??? I'm guessing the course has changed for 2022 with the little guest on the way?
I love the pony shoe!
Makes me hungry watching... 😂
I had no idea that Legally Blonde 2 was filmed there!
I know right!! I'm sure it wasn't too many scenes but still such a fun fact!
I'm from Springfield. When everyone does the Lincoln tour of Springfield, they never visit New Salem. The first place Lincoln lived in Illinois. Is it no longer open?
We were thinking of visiting Springfield and found your video. Looks like an awesome place to visit. We're thinking of something to do Easter weekend ☺️. We also subscribed so we can keep up on your adventures.
Steve and Sandee
You should definitely visit and let us know what you think!! It's a unique place! Thanks for checking out our channel. 😍
Stay away from that town. Go to STL or something.
Great video!
Thank you so much!! 😍
Hey, that’s us. I have been excited to watch this. Love all the additional graphics. What do you guys use to edit? Lincoln home is a classic. I think I’m still full from that horseshoe. We feel famous making it to your video. Springfield is such a beautiful place. I like Thomas 360 tour. Nice drone shots. I was named after Frank Lloyd Wright (Carl Lloyd). I think Lincoln’s Tomb is my favorite spot in Springfield. Oh man, we have to go to that drive in. Cool video guys. Oh yea 0:47 I think we just jumped into the movie TENET 😂
OH MY GOSH THE TENET MOMENT! 😂😂😂 Thomas edited the whole video so I didn't notice that until you pointed it out! Hilarious! We use Final Cut Pro now instead of iMovie so that's enabled us to play around a lot more with editing! Last I heard you had FCP but hadn't made the switch yet right? Also SO COOL that you were named after Wright!!! You're going to have to go to all of his houses or something as tribute! Thanks again for being in our video and sorry for the massive delay in posting.
@@RuthandThomas Love the movie TENET!!! Yea I switched to Final Cut Pro about two weeks ago and loved it. But adding all the fin stuff sure adds to the editing time. Has to be nice to have 2 editors in the household. Great job Thomas!!!!
where is the covered bridge in the intro?
Y'all should try the City Museum in STL.
We LOVE the City Museum!!! One of the coolest things we’ve ever done!
I didn’t know there was a Frank Lloyd Wright house was in Springfield!
We've actually never been shockingly!! But my mom went a couple weeks ago while I was at work and she said it was well worth it, so it's high on our to do list!
Nice like 27 🔔🔔👈👍
Thanks for watching! We appreciate the support :)
I seen you guys filming this😂😂😂
No way!! That's crazy! Where did you see us??
Hello. I will be moving to Springfield soon for business reasons. What 2-3 areas do you recommend for living? I will be needing a 1 or 2 bedroom rental apartment, nothing fancy, and will be moving by myself. I guess I have a budget of $800-900 per month. Thank you in advance.
Springfield suburbs like chatham are good to live in as the closer you get to the city the more dangerous it usually gets
@@mariomario9209 Thank you so much!!
@@lifeisgood3087 yep in 2018 it was ranked the 9th best city to live in
In all of America
@@mariomario9209 👍👍❤ Thank you again!
Hi there! Yes, Chatham is a nice area to live as well as anything on the west side of town. The area around Washington Park (like a 1 mile radius around the park) is a great place to find rentals! A lot of historic, more affordable homes.
Hey!! It’s us!!!!
Yes!! Thanks so much for your cameo! It was awesome getting to hang out with your family for an afternoon.
Damn born and raised in Springfield, no longer there. All those things are boring AF. Lol
Alright, let’s hear your suggestions!!
ya i know because i live there
Springfield’s a pretty cool city! We enjoyed living there when we did.. it’s got a lot to offer and is a nice place to raise a family 🙂
That’s a catalpa tree 🌳
Oh cool! Thanks for letting us know!!
What about the black history museum? Where is it located
have you ever been to cooks spice rack and chilli my family owns it
That is so cool! We have never been, but will have to put it on the list. What's the thing to get there? Chili, of course, but what else?
we have a lot of stuff like smoked meats fish and a lot more
My family owns cozy dog
That's super cool!!! A Springfield tradition.
My friend
Thanks for the support!
As a Springfielder, I am offended at the way he tried to eat that horseshoe
Hahaha right?? We’d never seen anything like it!
I have never, EVER seen a horseshoe eaten like a legitimate sandwich. Haha, fork and knife for me!
We'd never seen that either haha. He was certainly creative in his approach!!
You missed Vincent
Dang it! He should've gotten his own chapter for sure. We'll just have to make a part 2! 😂
I live here
Cool! Do you have any cool places you like to visit as a local?
I lived in Springfield IL for 13 years. It is absolutely awful. I wouldn’t recommend moving there. The food is good, and that is it.
It’s a bummer you feel that way! Springfield has its downsides like any other city, but there’s a lot to love too!
Lol, at least it's easy to get around with little traffic AND...your town does have Portillos.
If you live there, there's nothing to do...trust me
It's a horseshoe, not a horseshoe sandwich.
How many homeless did you see?
There are actually not that many homeless people in Springfield! We’ve got a few homeless shelters and food pantries and you’ll occasionally see them on street corners, but there are not nearly as many as in some of the bigger cities like Chicago or St. Louis.
Guess they gave up
Malibu Jack's and Obed & Isaac's?