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  • @alexateurcat
    @alexateurcat Месяц назад +593

    As a rat owner... the cage should absolutely never smell. Unless you're on a deep clean day, my cage almost never smells, and I can stick my head in and take a deep breath without smelling anything except the woody smell of their bedding!

    • @Toby-k8v
      @Toby-k8v Месяц назад +44

      yeah when I was growing up my sister had 2 rats and I dont remember there cage ever smelling

    • @Chris_GT
      @Chris_GT Месяц назад +30

      its sad the way people treat them

    • @6chr
      @6chr Месяц назад +8

      i have guineapigs with a massive cage in the living room, and it never smells

    • @catsnwhales
      @catsnwhales Месяц назад +1

      How do you keep it from smelling?

    • @ateriemouse8406
      @ateriemouse8406 Месяц назад +4

      @@catsnwhalesclean the cage 1 per month and give them healthy food

  • @Duelvrf
    @Duelvrf Месяц назад +1155

    the teenager with no privacy is the worst

    • @thetafoya
      @thetafoya Месяц назад +27

      real😭

    • @RIPbeeze
      @RIPbeeze Месяц назад +39

      Cap it could 100% be worse

    • @rainbow-mj4hi
      @rainbow-mj4hi Месяц назад +1

      fr

    • @derjager3797
      @derjager3797 Месяц назад +71

      @@RIPbeeze well obviously everything could be worse

    • @sasqucho
      @sasqucho Месяц назад +56

      @@RIPbeeze she is still in a horrible situation because teenagers strive for a lot of privacy. its horrible that the parents don't consider this. i get that it definitely be worse but just imagine that was you.

  • @Wingstripe
    @Wingstripe Месяц назад +550

    Imagine your only long term friends being your parents and siblings💀

    • @Mr.Murasakino
      @Mr.Murasakino Месяц назад +32

      Riiight i could neeevver imagine not having friends... hahaha😂😢

    • @caseyhoward9935
      @caseyhoward9935 Месяц назад

      ​@@Mr.Murasakinoloser

    • @KRAT0S_son_of_zeus
      @KRAT0S_son_of_zeus Месяц назад +17

      My life a scentence

    • @bunnybunnyrunny
      @bunnybunnyrunny Месяц назад +11

      Ha ha imagineeee!! 😣

    • @s04p11
      @s04p11 Месяц назад +8

      Nah what I moved a lot in my younger days and my only long term friends are my family. Stfu I love my siblings and parents, they're the best, they love and support me.

  • @demonbones
    @demonbones Месяц назад +223

    if i see a vid starts at 00:01 comment im gonna start tweakin

  • @notimmune6264
    @notimmune6264 Месяц назад +40

    Weird asf thought but like did anyone stop to think how awkward it must've been for the oldest to be chillin in the bed whilst the parents were getting a "new sibling" going?

  • @s04p11
    @s04p11 Месяц назад +137

    I live with my family (of 5) and I could NEVER live in a van with them in such a tiny space. My dad always yelled at us when we would just talk a bit too loudly in the car because it was such a small space. Kids need privacy, van life is for single people or couples only, DONT HAVE KIDS.

  • @COMAXETERNAL
    @COMAXETERNAL Месяц назад +77

    NOT THE END LMAO
    BRO SAID THE KIDS WOULD GET RUN OVER BY A CAR AND THEN HIS OUTRO PLAYS WITH A SPORTS CAR

  • @D.O.M_officiall
    @D.O.M_officiall Месяц назад +61

    I will say as an adult that moved out at 18 it is extremely difficult joe, but anything is possible. I ran away from home at 15, stayed with an aunt and payed rent for 3 years. I moved out a month after I was 18 from her house on my own and have been doing well enough since, but the prices are crazy out here. $1000 for a 1 bedroom is normal in Ohio right now. I would of been doing very well if I made my wage in my grandparents day. That's why I hate when people call all of gen z lazy, it's not lazy, it's a ruined economy

    • @jacksonyork7079
      @jacksonyork7079 Месяц назад +5

      that’s why i’m joining the air force and gonna work for 20 years lol

    • @Italian_pizzeria
      @Italian_pizzeria 18 дней назад

      @@jacksonyork7079you know that’s gonna be hard

  • @ModelAaliyahAustin-i8o
    @ModelAaliyahAustin-i8o Месяц назад +171

    My parents are in their upper 60s and traveling the world in their retirement, it def does happen, they go on vacation at least once every 3-4 months now somewhere in hr world.

    • @pelkiutrolis4451
      @pelkiutrolis4451 Месяц назад +2

      Rat!

    • @owenhoffner3150
      @owenhoffner3150 Месяц назад +5

      Bot

    • @corab930
      @corab930 Месяц назад +9

      Yall calling it out i didnt even realize 😭🙏

    • @fildafernandes4366
      @fildafernandes4366 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@corab930Fr they are getting smarter with the profiles

    • @MR_V3N0M
      @MR_V3N0M Месяц назад

      BRO THE AI DONT EVEN LOOK REAL😭🙏

  • @luantlol
    @luantlol Месяц назад +62

    22:36 best way to end a video

  • @christopherwilson5300
    @christopherwilson5300 Месяц назад +72

    Ive been in that experience where you constantly move, that shit is so annoying and doesnt help a childs development stay in one place if u can, i struggled every school i went to because i was constantly moving, yes i get that they r probably homeschooled but an actual place to learn and understand how to communicate with ppl is better than doing homeschooled imo but idk i need other ppl pov's

    • @Ballin4LifeFr
      @Ballin4LifeFr Месяц назад +2

      In my experience personally if it wasn’t for moving I never would’ve been to develop my social skills. But that’s just me personally.

    • @s04p11
      @s04p11 Месяц назад +5

      I moved a lot as well when I was younger. Ive never made close friends and I never really feel "at home" anywhere I go

    • @BunnyGxre
      @BunnyGxre Месяц назад +4

      @@Ballin4LifeFrit’s not so much that it’ll stop you from developing social skills but if you’re on the move 24/7, what good are your social skills even gonna do you?? You can’t make friends as easy as most people because you don’t have security and you never know when you’re going to have to leave everyone you currently know behind

    • @christopherwilson5300
      @christopherwilson5300 Месяц назад

      @@BunnyGxre exactly my thoughts

    • @mushroomz3110
      @mushroomz3110 Месяц назад +1

      God this !! Grew up as a military kid moving every 3-4 years, with no way of contacting any friends I may have made till my late teens. Absolutely killed my social skills & confidence, still trying to recover. Could not imagine having to go through that every other week/month or however long these van lifers do 😭

  • @Mong1809
    @Mong1809 Месяц назад +14

    im 15 and i would be pissed of if i had no privacy let alone not having my own space

  • @alten1426
    @alten1426 Месяц назад +46

    Bouta watch this 4 times in a row since there’s no stream today

  • @thetafoya
    @thetafoya Месяц назад +31

    i could never stay that close with my family

  • @josiahcherry7944
    @josiahcherry7944 Месяц назад +15

    Joe made a great point about homeschooling. I was homeschooled my whole life and was never forced to do anything for school. Learned how to read and spell from playing clash of clans as a kid and was never involved in any sports or groups of any kind. So when i was in my teenage years, i was unbelievably anti-social and had horrible social anxiety, which was one reason that led me down a bad path of drug addictions. I'm now 21 and have learned alot, ive graduated highschool and dont have a problem making friends or talking to new people but i still have little interest in being around people, i still much rather keep to myself.
    Do not homeschool your children if you have a disfunction household, and if you do, force them to be involved in sports or groups of some kind.

    • @KO_116
      @KO_116 19 дней назад

      I’m homeschooled and it really does matter how you do it, I’m definitely going to homeschool my kids

  • @oogabooga4977
    @oogabooga4977 Месяц назад +19

    Here be4 the "yapping starts at 0:01" comments

    • @Yesna
      @Yesna Месяц назад +2

      Here before the "actually it starts at 00:00" replies

    • @Thetraitor-g2y
      @Thetraitor-g2y Месяц назад

      Yeah I don’t get those comments he is reviewing the videos

  • @alvt1146
    @alvt1146 Месяц назад +8

    0:20 ive kept more in my van

  • @Very_sleepy-zZzZ
    @Very_sleepy-zZzZ Месяц назад +19

    1:25 an rv is way better than a van🤣💀

  • @ftfberetta3020
    @ftfberetta3020 Месяц назад +13

    If I was these kids I woulda ran away or begged for foster care ngl 💯

  • @k4productions
    @k4productions Месяц назад +10

    It would be cool to do a van life alone but with multiple people and kids hell no

    • @Greatduck777
      @Greatduck777 23 дня назад

      If you’re doing a van life thing you’d need a property and you’d need to set it up with proper things so you can go back there and take breaks there, you’d need only ONE kid and maybe your spouse if you have one, and 1 pet, nothing too big like a great dane, just a small dog like a yorkshire terrier or a chihuahua, and enough money to deck out your RV/van.

  • @Crazy_Alex_7667
    @Crazy_Alex_7667 Месяц назад +11

    4:03 Yoo it’s papa meat 😂

  • @mrcleantrash2345
    @mrcleantrash2345 Месяц назад +93

    my pants get sticky when joe uploads

  • @HyperTJ
    @HyperTJ Месяц назад +8

    Van life is fucking horrible I know from experience

  • @Barcaontopoflaliga
    @Barcaontopoflaliga Месяц назад +4

    I saw this and it’s depressing the fact these kids are robbed of a childhood to live in a van is sad if the parents cares they would settle down and go on van related activities during the winter this way the kids would have a normal childhood with friends and be happiest I mean traveling is fun but sitting in a van for a while sucks especially with mid ass seats

  • @Nazera_vr
    @Nazera_vr Месяц назад +10

    bro at this point they should just leagalize abuse this is upsurd my god

  • @ChanelWilson-g2m
    @ChanelWilson-g2m Месяц назад +6

    If we gonna be real joe makes every video better, every life better, every thing better'' Thank u Joe for being there for me through everything breakups,kms,collage, thank u for everything!

  • @LeanneLeroy-ou7ob
    @LeanneLeroy-ou7ob Месяц назад +33

    Loved every min of this vid! You nailed it!

  • @Bob-yj5hd
    @Bob-yj5hd Месяц назад +2

    First

  • @markotafa
    @markotafa Месяц назад +11

    125 views in 1 minute, joe is blowing up!!

  • @TheKnightedSlime
    @TheKnightedSlime Месяц назад +4

    dude i have claustrophobia and im scared of things falling on top of me those beds are hell

  • @mouscee6346
    @mouscee6346 Месяц назад +1

    I feel like I have to say that homeschooling should be regulated.. like, a LOT more than it currently is. I’ve gone my whole life without a check and thanks to that and my parents not getting me a proper education, I’m Lowkey fucked. Idk where I’m gonna be when I turn 17 next year.

  • @TheBananaMan6
    @TheBananaMan6 Месяц назад +3

    My grandpa is 68 and we just took a big euro trip we saw italy, Sweden, greece, and albania we also saw historic sights very fun

  • @IM_IN_THE_WALLS02198
    @IM_IN_THE_WALLS02198 Месяц назад +5

    5:33 why does he always say that😭

  • @Keep-u9d
    @Keep-u9d Месяц назад +3

    joe never fails to fill me up with long hard uploads

  • @ga-qn6we
    @ga-qn6we Месяц назад +3

    imagine wanting to let one out and having no privacy

  • @wellimagamer8848
    @wellimagamer8848 Месяц назад +2

    You should watch the old British experiment video where they just dump a bunch of boys into one house on thier own and a bunch of girls in a different house and see what happens. All kids, I’d say under the age of 12 max

  • @DeemRoupl
    @DeemRoupl Месяц назад +3

    If I had to live in a bus atleast choose a double decker bus 💀

  • @JuanitoPalomas
    @JuanitoPalomas Месяц назад +5

    Only in the hills

  • @rtblax5135
    @rtblax5135 Месяц назад +1

    12min in… I did move out at 18 got an apartment and moved out… It was 2021 and I didn’t get a 700 grand rv tho

  • @IsaacHND
    @IsaacHND Месяц назад +50

    "___ likes in __ minutes, bro fell off 💀"
    "___ views in __ minutes, bro fell off 😭"
    "the rant starts at 0:01"
    "the yapping starts at 0:01"
    "video starts 0:01"
    "video ends at 23:03"
    "Joe never fails to ____________"
    "Joe Fartolozzi"
    "Bart Fart"
    "it's like he's still with us 🙏🕊"
    "his family is posting his last drafts😔"
    🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖

    • @IsaacHND
      @IsaacHND Месяц назад +7

      me when I make the same type of comments I make fun of: 🤭👉👈

    • @zwei.0002
      @zwei.0002 Месяц назад +4

      Bro is mentally insane

    • @getreal3847
      @getreal3847 Месяц назад +1

      hell no

    • @R0astT0ast
      @R0astT0ast Месяц назад +2

      cuh used all the templates

    • @Mr.Murasakino
      @Mr.Murasakino Месяц назад +1

      ​@@IsaacHNDthey are calling them out. Isaac... do you do this? 🧐

  • @860_James.
    @860_James. Месяц назад +1

    As a teenager who fulltime rv's, I was the one who wanted to go full time. Are camper is 2 bedrooms 1.5 baths so it's big and just 2 people. I enjoy it and don't see any wrong with it, I go to normal school so that's just the same. Also there is no way that camper is worth 1 mill, my family's camper was 60k off the lot brand new(bought 3 weeks ago).

  • @Crazy_Alex_7667
    @Crazy_Alex_7667 Месяц назад +5

    4:44 wait where do they keep the other one, at their HOUSE😂

  • @humpdaytwinkies9191
    @humpdaytwinkies9191 Месяц назад +1

    I had scheduled chores but if I wasn't done in thirty minutes my step mom would beat the shit out of me so this honestly sounds like paradise

    • @humpdaytwinkies9191
      @humpdaytwinkies9191 Месяц назад +1

      Albeit, we never lived in an RV. We lived in my dad's van for a couple years when he first started out in the military

  • @AllyLammert
    @AllyLammert Месяц назад +2

    5:31 this is why Joe is my favorite

  • @Enxev1ty
    @Enxev1ty Месяц назад +2

    I LOVE YOU JOE!!! On gloomy days your videos always cheer me up.❤

  • @sknndbunny
    @sknndbunny Месяц назад +2

    I will say being 19 and moved out is definitely not easy. BUT when you actually have a steady job, it is feasible. Like I said though, not easy.

  • @sc00bes
    @sc00bes Месяц назад +1

    8:00 exactly what happend and is still happening to me now that i'm in highschool ;-;

  • @elliott1949
    @elliott1949 Месяц назад +6

    love u joe

  • @Billlothy
    @Billlothy Месяц назад +24

    Video starts at 00:01

  • @Jamesp2828
    @Jamesp2828 Месяц назад +7

    1 like = 1push up edit 6likes tysm six push ups😐

  • @Crimsonarts2323
    @Crimsonarts2323 Месяц назад +1

    joe smod should automatically ban anyone who says "unpause" or anything along those lines cus theyre so fucking annoying

  • @Ooober1932
    @Ooober1932 Месяц назад +1

    31 seconds no views bro fell off

  • @CameronHadley-uo1pr
    @CameronHadley-uo1pr Месяц назад +4

    The car at end in the outro is great timing 💀

  • @LuyVuitton
    @LuyVuitton Месяц назад +13

    It’s like he’s still here 0:26

  • @WizardEli420
    @WizardEli420 27 дней назад +1

    ive had rats before, theyre absolutely adorable and they are incredibly smart

  • @colinmeade-tu3ln
    @colinmeade-tu3ln Месяц назад +1

    This should be a birth control ad. Know if you are fit for parenthood

  • @strawbewrii_neko
    @strawbewrii_neko Месяц назад +1

    7:48 this is true because I have online schooled (not rlly home schooled but I don’t have zooms and I only do homework so it’s sorta like that) and I’m really anti social and have social anxiety. I actually have been online schooled since COVID started

    • @jiłłian_2
      @jiłłian_2 Месяц назад

      honestly same but in my old house i had great friends i’m a semi social person i’ve been homeschooled my whole life but i have social skills and my homeschool was a public school just on my computer

    • @KO_116
      @KO_116 19 дней назад

      I’m homeschooled and I love it

  • @Twanskiii
    @Twanskiii Месяц назад +1

    12 kids? But they all live in the same room, you don’t think they…….. NOOOOOOO, in front of the kids

  • @I_Cant_type
    @I_Cant_type Месяц назад +2

    First

  • @thomasciddy
    @thomasciddy Месяц назад +1

    Ex husband on the last one js sound like a gay bestfriend fr

  • @aaronl6666
    @aaronl6666 Месяц назад +2

    “Itd be like we’re playing clue” is crazy

  • @grayisaura
    @grayisaura Месяц назад +3

    Joe always makes me happy

  • @stupefied-yt
    @stupefied-yt Месяц назад +1

    10 seconds no views joe fell off

  • @daylonhewitt321
    @daylonhewitt321 Месяц назад +2

    Joe never fails to make my toes wiggle

  • @Doggo_is_back
    @Doggo_is_back Месяц назад +1

    0 views in 10 seconds bro fell off

  • @jamesonturcky565
    @jamesonturcky565 Месяц назад +1

    These families be acting like it’s the 1750’s by popping out children and acting like half their kids are going to die of a common cold

  • @PoeYT_
    @PoeYT_ Месяц назад +2

    Last video with the white walls

    • @jiłłian_2
      @jiłłian_2 Месяц назад

      he’s got piss walls now 😔

  • @Deepthinkerwhothinksdeep
    @Deepthinkerwhothinksdeep Месяц назад +1

    Day 23 of asking joe to react to Mr Ballen

  • @CCarterGaming101
    @CCarterGaming101 Месяц назад +1

    1.5k views I'm 30 minutes, Joe fell off

  • @Cooldude-z7k
    @Cooldude-z7k Месяц назад +1

    Pls like this be a normal video😂😂😂

  • @ianlesser8028
    @ianlesser8028 Месяц назад +1

    Hi

  • @iwastemytimeonroblox
    @iwastemytimeonroblox Месяц назад +1

    Fly high joe🕊️🪦

  • @Mrduckman296
    @Mrduckman296 Месяц назад +1

    Hi

  • @Swayon60fps
    @Swayon60fps Месяц назад +1

    W Joe

  • @Tunes-Edits
    @Tunes-Edits Месяц назад

    7:41 this is very true!! Please do sports or something if you do homeschool. I have zero friends scared of being social I cant socialize and I’m scared to go to anything. I was in 7th when I was in homeschool now going to 8th. I’m going to public school and I don’t know what I’m gonna do because of my adhd and crazy nerves all of the time. But the message is just stay in PS for the best

  • @reubeman10
    @reubeman10 Месяц назад

    I went into home schooling in 4th grade and it sucks i consider myself a social person and i didnt have any freinds except one and he moved 2 hours away which isnt that much but it still makes a big diffrence. But i also want to go yo public school because sometimes i feel like im slacking and not as smart as other kids. My mom is a nurse so shes not home and my dad works from 7am to 5 pm so hes not home either. Atleast they said we can go to public school in high school tho

  • @Katchindimoutdoors
    @Katchindimoutdoors Месяц назад

    We have a chore chart
    Living room
    Dining room
    Kitchen
    Laundry room
    Upper hall and bath
    Lower hall and bath
    Every week we go one chore down, I have 8 siblings but I live with 5

  • @rebekahleigh4900
    @rebekahleigh4900 Месяц назад +1

    I was homeschooled till 5th grade and my social interactions were church, Christian homeschool groups, and dance classes. It was so hard to make friends in public school and I was so behind and it was always so overwhelming. I had horrible attendance and was ditching in high school to smoke. I still feel like it affects how I learn and I’m terrified to go to college. Homeschooling is not helpful when it’s not good education lol. I never finished public school and got my ged a few months after dropping out it junior year

    • @Crybaby-c5b
      @Crybaby-c5b Месяц назад

      You literally just explained my entire school experience lmao. But, I do hope things turn out for you, I'm sure God (if you believe in him) has a plan for you.

  • @VaughnVacca
    @VaughnVacca Месяц назад +1

    W vid

  • @182ETR
    @182ETR Месяц назад +1

    first

  • @vikii_vr
    @vikii_vr Месяц назад +1

    Only viewers under 5 minis can like 👇

  • @Jamesp2828
    @Jamesp2828 Месяц назад +1

    1st here

  • @sledge_manic
    @sledge_manic 6 дней назад

    i was homeschooled in 6th grade and that messed me up for years cuz i cheated on all my math stuff (if i even did it)

  • @HarryThe1stJester
    @HarryThe1stJester Месяц назад +1

    W video to sleep to thanks joe

  • @Wrldoncets
    @Wrldoncets Месяц назад

    Bro I’m so deadass this is the realest shit I’ve seen today I can confirm it I’m homeschooled!!! 7:40

  • @Astra_on_fours
    @Astra_on_fours Месяц назад +1

    The video starts here 00:00

  • @Paran0rmalz
    @Paran0rmalz Месяц назад +1

    I live in an RV, am homeschooled, and LOVE IT!

  • @christianhubbard1246
    @christianhubbard1246 Месяц назад +1

    Hi

  • @RJK0211
    @RJK0211 9 дней назад

    Ngl some of those beds seem like they would be cozy as fuck for like 10 minutes

  • @fallensoup3917
    @fallensoup3917 Месяц назад +2

    Nice vid Joe!

  • @UphillBridge
    @UphillBridge Месяц назад

    17:15 where tf would you do it without the kids hearing it?? CPS???

  • @Barneito_123
    @Barneito_123 Месяц назад +1

    FIRSTTTTTYYYYY😂😅😂😂😅😅❤❤😅😊🎉😢😅❤😅❤

  • @ThatGoober
    @ThatGoober Месяц назад +2

    WAAAA

  • @weinermanverylarge
    @weinermanverylarge Месяц назад

    100 views in one minute? bro fell off

  • @omaroceguera4629
    @omaroceguera4629 Месяц назад +1

    Guys i just learned how to make eggs

  • @athome2004
    @athome2004 Месяц назад

    So a little bit of a TMI warning y'all if I was forced to sleep in this van and stuff and go on vacation and that tiny van or whatever and the family gave me milk or any dairy product they would regret living in those tiny homes as soon as possible it be stinking and I'll be in there for an hour so everybody got to hold it because there ain't no way my body is going to let me hold it😂😂

  • @afizzle1276
    @afizzle1276 Месяц назад

    13:19, everyone should read the article (the semi-blurred areas) instead of just reading the highlighted sections. Ong ts is actually depressing when u actually read the article fully. Thats bad, but the last van life family in the video is miserable. No set curriculum? An app? Do the children even get a diploma, or get accepted into universities let alone have the chance to even apply for one. All that while living with a homeless guy, their moms "ex" boyfriend, and another boyfriend. The kids have 3 father figures?? No education? They aren't set for failure, they aren't set for literally anything but breathing and living to the bare minimum. That woman should honestly be arrested and this van life family shit should be illegal atp

  • @Sk1zzard
    @Sk1zzard 21 день назад

    As a person who was homeschooled their entire childhood, I agree with everything you said. Thank fucking god I was able to do dance as an ‘extra curricular activity’ but the only places I ever went were church and dance. And I got bullied anyways for being the awkward shy homeschooled kid. When I got my first job it was such a shock, I realized I had no clue how to actually interact with people. Not to mention the fact that I had and still have terrible social anxiety. Before I got a job and was allowed to get social media at 16 I literally had 2 friends. My parents also kinda gave up on teaching me in highschool, it ended up being an ‘un-schooling’ type thing. So I definitely don’t know all the things I need to. I’m 20 now and terrified to try going to college because I genuinely don’t think I’m smart enough to pass the classes, plus I don’t know how to sign myself up anyways. If you homeschool, do it right. Or you are setting your children up for failure.

  • @Penguin179VODS
    @Penguin179VODS Месяц назад

    I’ve been noticing this for months now and I can finally confirm that Joe has been reloading videos and passing them off as new videos it’s been annoying me and I had no way to confirm it but with a sunny v2 video I can confirm that this is true

  • @Tedplayz60
    @Tedplayz60 24 дня назад

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