AMD, The most common problem with the Land Cruiser 200 Series and LX 570 is that we CANNOT AFFORD them. 😉😂🤣 Having said that, we do wish Toyota would bring us some of the simpler, more affordable versions of the Land Cruiser they sell overseas. 🤞🤞
@@DaddyGlez The Prado is just as much Land Cruiser as the bigger 200/300-series and 70-series Land Cruiser. The LC Prado started as a light duty version of the 70-series in 1984 which later in 1990 evolved to the J70 LC Prado. Afterwards came the J90, J120 and the current J150-series. The bigger 300-series is more robust and heavy duty but that does not make the LC Prado ‘lesser’.
I am an owner of LC200, add to that: 1. Crack of top plastic of the radiator. It happens more to one’s with more driving cycle and cold climates. 2. Coolant leak from engine underneath the intake manifold, leak can be seen from bottom on the torque converter housing. 3. Sunroof drain plugs and leaks, water can go through the roof tell the kick of panel you have shown. It will corrode the big wire connection. 4. Rotors will warpage even through the brake pads still thick. 5. Transfer case actuator do go bad after some time and needs replacement. It will require dismantling the transfer case. 6. Be carful when you replace the air conditioning filter, put the ac at recalculation mode or you will brake the blind door. 7. 2016 and up do have more problems with blind doors actuator going bad. Thank you for the informative Video👍 If I am not mistaken, the late models came with aisin 8speed.
@@RickActual When you remove the cabin air filter access port and the blower is in "outside air" mode you will see a curved black accordion-like cover over the filter. Don't try to force it open or you will break it. If it's already open in that mode and moves freely by hand, it's already broken and that means when you push the recirculate button nothing really happens. To access the filter without breaking it follow #6.
As a shop that only works on Land Cruisers I cringed when he said he had never seen a radiator that leaked. For me I've yet to see a pre 18' that didn't leak. We have replaced every single one that come into the shop with the flaw on the embossment for the manufacturer. You can easily tell if it's the old crappy style because the edges around it are sharper. The new style that supersedes the old one has been redesigned with a thicker more smother edge that doesn't crack. Sometimes the crack is really small and if you have an iphone and put it in magnifier mode and zoom in you will see where the crack starts and it's in the corners of the embossment. Bad thing about the 570 is the plastic covers hide all this. I've yet to see this crack be the death nail for the 200 series but all pre 18's with this flaw will fail. Toyota should have extended the warranty on these. Also we see some with the center diff lock light that flashes when it's cold. I think you nailed all the rest.
i had my 2010 replaced around 115k after it blew.. The diff lock was also flashing but it started working after banging it with a hammer a few times. ......
You work in a shop, you’re like a doctor but for cars. There are 1,000 people in my small town that have diabetes. Of a total population of 10,000 people. If I worked in a shop that sold diabetic test strips, I could say every person in this town seems to have diabetes. But there are 9,000 that don’t have it. Not trying to take away from what your saying, just adding perspective. There’s about 18,000 LC 200 made per year. What percentage leak? 1%, 5%, 20%? Now since I said this, I’m sure mine will leak 😅
This is a diamond video to watch. Spot on on critical things to watch. Based on this video - I bought a Landcruiser VX V8 2011 60th Anniversary in 2024 with 105K km on the clock. So my 13 year old (two owner) car looked great. No rust. (Because driving in Malaysia). Upon purchase, changed ACH globes. So no longer does stationary dives at traffic lights. Drives like a dream at up to 165 kph on our expressway,. Cruising at 150kph is the norm. (Vs 120kph for the Landcruiser Prado 2.7L). Sits happily in long traffic jams if needed. It feels and looks like a new car despite being 13 years old! The "Facelift" to 2021 model and the PX6 16" (Tesla-esque) centre console makes the car feel new. Both done by the previous owner...
You are the man! I have spent months researching for 200 or LX 570 and this video has helped me so much. Everyone talks about how bulletproof they are but no one talks about key issues to look out for. It's always landcruiser last forever and just look for rust but that's about it. I don't want to spent top dollars then have to spend top dollar to fix it. If I do at least would like to know what I am getting myself into. Thank you so much for this video.
LC are hard to find. LX more likely especially one not taken off road. Best advice is find a good shop that specializes in LC/LX and spend the few hundred bucks on a thorough documented pre purchase inspection.
My 2010 diesel LC200 has 520.000 km, had two small problems, my car lives in the worst conditions a car can exist in. Replacing the oil every 15.000km and tectyl treat the car every 3 years is the key to few problems. Rust is the main cause for expensive repairs for LC200.
May I ask what top dollar is? I bought mine and thought it was truly expensive. LC200 2008 V6 Petrol 124.000km for almost 13.000 Euro. No rust, basically perfect condition. But still.... 15 year old car for that price, ouch.
This is true of every Toyota to be honest. The kool-aid drinking fan boys do an excellent job of covering things up and making you think you’ll never need a repair done ever. They need repairs and maintenance just like anything else. yours truly, 1995 4Runner, GX460, and LX570 owner.
I’ve owned several land cruisers and rust has been the demise of them. Sadly living in eastern North America, it’s a BIG problem. That coupled with expensive parts. Otherwise I would have kept my Toyotas forever. They never let me down, they are machines , and wear and require maintenance, but they are well made. So now I’m shopping for my last LandCruiser/LX 570, or GX V8. Shopping can be fun, when you’re shopping for a new TOY ! Really appreciate your time recording these videos, I wished I lived near you because I would work with you to find me my last ride. Peace! And have a great DAY.
FYI. The cost to fix the oil leak on the center stack shown on the LX will be between $7-10k depending on the shop. If it has been leaking for some time you can expect to replace the rubber hoses in the area because the oil will deteriorate them. I went through this on one of mine 2 years ago. If you see this run. Move on to the next one.
I shopped for and found a 2013 LX570. Gorgeous 1 owner, dealer maintained, all records no accident history. That all checks out. But! Its from Long island albeit a very "nice" neighborhood. Frame "crust" starting. Only 50,000 miles, but needing immediate attention on the undercarriage. 2 weeks in the AHC springs a leak. Rusted hydraulics line. 😢 Fast forward i replaced that line. De-scaled all frame rust including suspension and lines. Neutralized rust and now I'm POR 15 painting the underside and will be lanolin treated inside and outside frame! I'm in for the long haul and I genuinely love this car!
What's wrong with the oil under spray. In Canada we have companies like Krown Rust Control, Rust Check and others that do a great job of combating rust. It's an annual application, but it works very well and will increase your resale value.
The Radiator is a common issue on the 08-17 models with the actual core itself but the neck that is made of thin plastic and cracks over time. Toyota updated the designed with a thicker, chamfered neck in the 2018+ models. Also Cam tower & coolant vallet leaks as all 5.7 3UR's are susceptible to can also go wrong.
I bought a 2015 Lexus LX 570 this past February, and it has been a great experience. It spent most of its previous life in Oklahoma and Arkansas, so rust was never an issue I had to consider. I've wanted a Land Cruiser since I was 18, and now 14 years later have managed to get one with 88k miles. Car Care Nut is proper; the engine bay is very cramped, so changing my spark plugs out compared to my 05' Camry was a hassle. Fortunately, there is a great community of enthusiasts out there who will gladly help you sort your truck out. The LX was about $10k cheaper than similar Land Cruiser models of the same year and mileage. I'd encourage anyone to buy a well-maintained LX over a well-maintained Land Cruiser for that reason.
How much did you get your LX for I’m looking at at 2014 lx570 with 148,000 miles and they want 30,000 after taxes and everything. I’m considering doing it seems like a very clean vehicle it’s just a lot of money haha.
@@floofyboii6034 I did end up doing it found a 13’ with 135,000 miles and got it for $27.5k before taxes. Unfortunately it was not very well maintained and the transmission is on its way out and leaking oil from everything and the front shocks are leaking suspension fluid so kinda got fucked on it, thinking about selling it currently..
I think your channel is a gift to the Toyota community. I have a 2019 LC 200 and plan to pass it down to the next generation. I have noticed that the air conditioning dampers sometimes misdirect air on the driver side, but then the problem spontaneously went away and hasn’t come back in the last year. It is nice that your channel has a couple of videos on the LC, which usually doesn’t get much discussion in depth, probably because there are not many of them.
Good Video. I agree and disagree with several things. 1) Radiator (Disagree) The factory radiator rarely lasts more than 70-80K. Both of these 200's have the newer style radiators so they have both been replaced. 2) Timer cover leak/cooling tower leak is very rare. You are much more likely to have a valley coolant leak. 3) Suspension mods (Neutral), 200 series suspension mods on the market are very good. You can change your LC for the better with a good suspension setup. 4) Rust. (100 percent agree). Especially in the LX models, you will have very expensive AHC leaks. 5) LC cost more than LX because of supply and demand. There are about half as many LC's in the US than the LX...both had very low production numbers. Bonus issue: Cycle the 4LO, many of these the 4LO actuator will fail to engage. Especially if 4LO is never used. The internal contacts get rusty and corrode.
Great video!! Looked at four of these and bought an LX about a month ago. Common things to look for or anticipate: - Rusty frame, exhaust, trans pan bolts (rusty stock skid bolts are normal) - Rust on AHC lines/globes (LX) or KDSS components (LC) - Valley plate coolant leak (hard to see, leaks to top of front of trans) - Cam tower oil leak - Valve / timing cover oil leak (around dipstick) - Non-original glass (can cause issues w/ leaks in door sills and A-pillars, affecting electronics) - Non-working rain-sensing wipers (usually caused by non-original glass) - Clogged sunroof drain (can cause issues w/ leaks in door sills and A-pillars, affecting electronics) - Radiator hairline crack around protrusion (original radiator) will eventually leak - carry JB Weld - Starter (will randomly, possibly inevitably, fail) - Leaky struts - 4 Hi/Lo or Center Diff Actuator not working - Radio/amp restarts or doesn't work (amp is under carpet of driver seat, multi display ECU under passenger seat) - Broken AC recirculation door (where you change the cabin filter) - fixed w/ a 3D printed part or a full replacement - Side mirror flicker/wobble - easily fixed w/ replacement bolt & cover kit - Passenger seat cooler (failed ECU under passenger seat due to corrosion in passenger door sill / A-pillar) - U-joint in driveline loose - Failed bushings throughout - Brakes are generally poor until 2016; can replace w/ Tundra [need to replace lines] or 16+ [need to expand caliper bolt hole] - Broken wood trim up front
@@anthonyrice8528 it’s what I saw in four different vehicles. I picked the one with a leaky front strut, broken trim, and broken recirc door (but I think all of them had broken recirc doors). I expect to replace radiator, starter, and brakes.
These things are so expensive and can't take you anywhere and lifted tundra 5.7 with 37's and another locking diff installed. For less than half the price. If used 1/5 the price. These are now a luxury buy and not something people take offroad anymore
Another check recommendation for a very common issue: CABIN AIR FILTER DOOR Check to make sure it moves appropriately from recirc to fresh mode. This door can be found through the glove box. The cabin air filter is only accessible if the air is in recirc mode. This isn’t made clear (especially on earlier models of the 200), and the door is often forced open to replace or inspect the filter, even by Toyota techs. This can pop the door off its solenoid pin, or worse, break the pin or its housing. Popping it back in place can be done, but requires removing the glove box. Repairing it requires tedious door removal and superglue. Replacing it requires total dash removal and big $$$, from what I understand. Lots of details on IH8MUD of this issue (~1/3 of surveyed had it). If broken, I’d demand it to be fixed and get photo proof that the fix was high quality. If the cabin air filter door doesn’t work, you can fog up the interior glass real bad in wet conditions, making a driving hazard. Not to mention you’re paying a lot for this vehicle: The recirc/fresh selector should work, period.
My dream car, I prefer the LC because of no AHC, another item I don’t have to worry about servicing. And the back hatch is manual, takes 2 seconds to close the door with my hand not a button.
i own a 2016 LX570 with 250,000+ km. The car has been extremely reliable with the desert heat at 50c and rough roads when i go off-roading. Yet you travel comfortably known that you'd reach your destination no matter what. once i was in Empty Quarter in Saudi arabia, the nearest town was 400km away. the fuel pump started failing due to sand in fuel tank, yet the car turned on and drove across the desert until i reached a mechanic shop.
This video saved me 29,000 dollars. I was looking at a 2010 LC but once I climbed underneath with the information I was given in this video I walked away. Rust everywhere and oil leaks combined with aftermarket windshield. I will continue my search and continue to drive my old 4runner. Thank you for posting this very informative video.
We roll in a 2017 Lexus LX 570 with 23,000 miles on it, and all I can say is WOW. The vehicle is very comfortable, very capable, and were very satisfied.
Happy owner of a 2013 LX570 with 76k km. Only 3 years of limited winter driving but it rusted fast. Good to learn about oil spots to watch out for. I removed 3rd row and swapped to Tundra brake kit. LX is heavy with a hundred small motors, sound proofing, and oversized components (motor mounts!) that are made to last forever. Hard to find after-market parts. Hydraulic lift is great to lower for my wife's bad hip and rising to full height for off-road.
As the owner of an LX470 I relate heavily to the stigma of land cruiser owners 😂 Excellent video as always, I would love to upgrade to a 200 series one day and this will help immensely!
I had an LX470 and thought it was the best car I ever owned until I upgraded to a 570. Upgrade if you can, you won’t regret it, but I do regret not keeping the LX470.
Lol, the worst ones are on the Land Cruiser subreddit when someone posts a question about which to buy. They talk about the LX’s AHC like it’s riding around with a Range Rover’s air suspension yet never mention anything about LC’s with AHC ever having a problem. Then they talk about the 20/21” rims like they turn the LX into an AWD Sienna off-road. “Oh myyy gwaaaaahd those LX’s! They’re just teeeeahrrible! The fancyness just ruins them!” -Idiots.
@@aaronmacy9134 Love my lx570 with ahc that's still mint condition lol, I mean I've thrown the thing airborne multiple times 5-6 feet into the air offroad. The cream interior is extra work to keep clean for sure though.
I followed this channel when it barely had subscribers. Now up to 755k. This is one of the best technical toyota/lexus channel period, none of that Scotty K BS.
I bought a 2023 4runner TRD pro and my bottom hurts so much after driving 2-3 hours in it, now I'm seriously thinking to trad in for a 2016-2019 LX570, thanks for the video!
Great video @CCN! I've owned 2 200 Series now (08 LX & 13 LC) and I actually miss the LX because of all the comfort features and amenities that the LC's utilitarian nature doesn't possess. In addition, you forgot to mention 1 achilles hill in the 200 series, valley plate/heat exchanger leak, which is very common in the 3UR-FE. If anyone is looking at one of these, bring a scope with you to look under the intake before purchasing. This alone can be a $1,200 fix.
OMG I have been waiting for this very video! I have wanted a LC for over 30 years. I have always had Toyotas since 1987. For work I drove GMC, Ford, and Dodge off road for 3 decades, so Toyotas were always for me. In late 2021, I finally scored a 2019 LC, 1 owner, no accidents, not fleet, Certified, with 21K miles. Unbelievable. Clean as a whistle. Yes, I looked. Loved it so much that we sold the 2019 Tundra Crewmax Limited with 30k the last May 2023 and bought a Certified 2019 LX 570. One owner. No accidents. Not fleet. Had 30k miles. I was nervous about the AHC system. We really wanted another LC but it is difficult to find one that isn't over priced or was/is compromised mechanically. I caught flak from friends on the LX but continue to say over and over that it is simply a LC in a tuxedo and not as valuable as the LC. There were on average only about 3,000 LCs imported each year over the last 2? decades. There were only 4,000 LX's imported. So there is the simple availability factor. But people treat the LX wirth awe but I always explain the LC is simpler. I like the KDSS better and I simply like the way it drives better than the LX. Unfortunately, I don't trust the Lexus dealership where I live. I only trust one Toyota dealership which is 120 miles away (but worth the TLC). But, both dealerships have said they don't see either respective vehicle very often. Again, not that many 200 LCs and LX 570's around. So, for serious stuff I may have to drive to Chicago to see you or perhaps the specialty shop in Boise which would be a "going on vacation" type of repair. The dealerships are frightening, unfortunately.
Bought a used rust free lx470 from Louisiana last year and it’s the best purchase I have ever made. If you want to keep the AHC working properly, change the fluid.
Great Video! I’m a 8yr LX570 owner and love it! (Owned 2 LCs before it) One more reason the LX costs less than the Land Cruiser is availability. 3-4x more LX570’s than LC200s were sold in the US every year (before the LC200 was discontinued). Simple supply and demand. For those of you looking to buy, these are bomber vehicles, but know they are COSTLY! Even used. Very expensive to fuel, insure, and repair. For DIY maintenance get your parts from Toyota (it shares most mechanical parts with the LC200, or cheaper still, partsouq.
I do agree on the lifting and modifying personally. It is perfect as it is. But I have also modified many of them in my younger years, too. I think for every individual they should make it to be the way they want, and I will never judge anyone for modifying their vehicle. Even if it is not to my taste, it makes them happy. That's what life is all about right? Finding happiness in everything you do :-) God bless, and great video!
After driving a 2010 GX for many years, I thought I wanted a LX570. I was ready to buy one and took it for a test drive and was very surprised that I hated it. The visibility was not as good as the GX, it felt incredibly bloated and cumbersome, and somehow didn’t feel that much bigger inside than the GX. Ended up buying a 2023 GX460 caviar black on black with Levinson and I love it. Powerful yet nimble and a joy to drive. I felt like the LX was a burden to drive at least for a daily anyway.
That is such a smart observation - you buy these because they're built like tanks, but if you replace them with non-tank parts, then it's really not a Land Cruiser - a tank - anymore!
The Lexus LX is actually not cheaper. To buy yes but not to own. The biggest issue is that it's tuned for premium gas. And if anything goes wrong that you can't fix yourself, mechanics will charge the Lexus premium. That's why the Land Cruiser is worth more.
i have one for my dad's 2019 toyota land cruiser some removal third row seat september 2019 some more room and it very reliable and no issues whatsoever
Maybe the Lexus has better quality interior materials, maybe, but to my taste, the Land Cruiser just looks much better outside and inside, it's just my opinion. You can't go wrong with one or the other. Great video as usual AMD
We have a 2019 LC VXR at our vacation home in the Caribbean. Much nicer bumpers, interior, wheels and a twin turbo diesel V8. Although it still has less than 5000miles, it has been absolutely flawless, as you’d expect. It’s a shame the US spec has such poor trim options.
I compared/test drove the new 2021 LC200 Heritage Edition and new 2021 LX570 Inspiration series, both the cars were fully loaded will all options. After test driving both SUVs the LX570 felt slower compared to LC200, with a slower gearbox and slower steering (maybe done for luxury) and the LC200 felt quick for such a huge heavy car and gave a feeling of solidity that is impossible to replicate in other cars. Finally I ended up buying the 2021 LC200 Heritage Edition because it was more fun to drive, relatively speaking, and it was a better looking SUV compared to the LX570. There is definitely something different in the drive feel of LX570 and LC200, seems to me as if intentionally done by Toyota. In the past I have only owned German cars and it was pleasant change with the Japanese LC200, in terms of refinement and performance.
Agree. I have both the 2019 LC and the 2019 LX. Nearly same mileage. The LX is a touring car, very cushy. I can almost fall asleep driving it. My husband loves the LX. For me, the LC is more enjoyable to drive. It feels more alive and suits my better overall. We use the LX for long pleasure drives since it has a luxurious ride and that way I don't put the miles on the LC. We are working people. No cc debt but do love our 2 cars...worth the debt. Proven SAFE, reliable, and comfortable.
Only reason to buy this car is because of long term reliability. Other cars are better in every way but this Toyota products excels in longterm reliability. I prefer the Lx over the landcruiser though
I had the LX470, and then the LX570. The engines are very reliable. But I had to replace the air-suspension in both. Add that to the 200 miles to a $100 tank of gas-terrible gas mileage-awful handling on the road-and incredibly expensive general repairs after 100,000 miles-and very expensive prices to buy or lease-and I just gave up on them and went to another big SUV for my family.
If it hadn't been corrected, it was a 6spd vs 8spd transmission. And there is more to a LC vs. LX difference, one of the big ones is towing capacity, 1500lbs difference plus.
Land Cruiser videos are always satisfying to watch👏 something has to be said about these cars even compared to other Toyota trucks since they rust at a noticeably lesser level imo
Noooooo!!!! My whole plan is to someday replace my GX with a 200 series LX because it’s cheaper than the LC. Your channel is big enough that now the secret’s out. I can already hear used lot managers yelling to add $5k to their LX’s window stickers. Great video though!
The LX costs more to modify for off-road. The electronic air suspension needs to be replaced with normal suspension. The bumper and side skirts needs to be replaced for more ground clearance. The big wheels need to be changed with smaller wheels and higher sidewall tires.
I personally don't plan on getting a land cruiser, but I'm definitely a Toyota fan. Toyota's really are the best of the best in most cases. Honda and Mazda are probably the second and third runners up. I personally like the simple and light weight cars, and honestly prefer a standard transmission where I push in a clutch pedal and shit the gears myself. This is still a very interesting video though, and I really think it's a good example of the market showing what most people don't know. Thank you for the interesting videos, and I'm sure this is helpful to the people that actually want a land cruiser for it's practical use instead of just it's badge.👍👍
I bought a used LX570 in part based on this review (made sure it was not rusty). My plan was to have it inspected by the CCN for a post vehicle purchase inspection as I am within a 1 hour drive from the CCN shop. However, I had to go another route as the standard used car warranty period is 15 days & 500 miles. CCN is booking appointments 6+ weeks out, which did not work for my situation. Either way, good to see that business is booming for the CCN.
Excellent Video! I have a 2009 LX 570 (same color as the one in your video) I bought it used with 130,000 miles on it serviced at the local dealership per all recommended maintenance schedules. It replaced my 2003 LX 470 that was totaled when a driver ran a red light. I learned about rust with that rig, but still drove it everywhere here in the NW. I narrowed my newer car search to 2 LX's and a Landcruiser...the rig I always wanted. All 3 where comparable in age and mileage, but in the end I saved 4K and purchased the LX as it had complete service history and the landcruiser did not. The other LX had been sitting on a lot for 100 days and the dealer would only come down 1 K. Ironically, he called me back the next day to "deal" but I had already purchased the other LX. Mine is stock except some Black rims I put on but I have been in Snow, Mud, lots of rain and this Beast goes anywhere. Again, enjoyed the video very informative.
Ive already viewed all of his vids about the 4Runner...for me, the ONLY upgrade that im looking to get into is an LC200/LX...or if i can dream big enough, this new GX...thank you for giving us this vid...
I had a 100 series that was fully built. 5.29 gears, transfer case gears, 35"s bumpers, etc. Miss that rig so much. I plan on buying a 2017 LX570 in a few years and putting portals with 38" tires on it. Been a long time since I have been able to go offroading and I cant wait to get on the trails again with the newer tech and creature comforts.
I would get the LX purely for the Mark Levinson audio. Otherwise, really can't go wrong with either. Many Land Cruisers in my family and they all just keeeeeeep going.
My LC200 2010 diesel went 423.000km before the first problem striked, speed sensors on front wheels. Outside of tectyl treatment every 3 years and normal maintenance I have never had a single problem, the water pump sweats minimally. In my country a LC200 2010 - 2017 costed $90.000 new, now a used 2014 with 300.000km goes for $110.000. Modified my LC200 to a Arctic Trucks AT37 5 years ago, never had a single problem with the modification.
Key-points 1. Look out for after market parts replacements. 2. Look out for Rust especially underneath. 3. Look out for bad mechanic work. 4. DO NOT DARE BUY A USED ONE (you’ll most likely encounter 1, 2 & 3) Noted Sir. Thank you so much 🙏
Fun fact for Toyota/Lexus owners in general: If you have a 6th-gen Lexus ES350, Avalon, or some Camry's, and you are due for a brake job: Toyota Highlander larger front rotors/twin-piston calipers/pads are a direct bolt-on to those smaller cars. For my car, an ES350, it's basically a "budget" big-brake upgrade, huge increase in stopping power without braking the bank.
While you can't do much about exhaust rust, I fluid film everything - inside and out of the frame, suspension, doors, rockers, tail gate, fenders, under the hood - every single fall from new. Do that and it will never rust. So worth $100 - 150 / year.
Why does the Land Cruiser use 87 octane gas where as the LX requires 91 octane if they are exactly the same? And is there any risk putting 87 octane gas in the LX? Thanks in advance!
Goat is so loosely an overused these days, but that Land Cruiser 200 series is the greatest vehicle ever made. It is the Lionel Messi of cars or vehicles, or SUVs whatever you wanna call it. If you had to pick one truck to go from Alaska to Argentina it would be a 200 series. if you want to pick a truck to own for the next 25 years and hand down to your family and it still be worth a lot of money, that’s a 200 series Land Cruiser. Simply stated there are more expensive vehicles, more prestigious, vehicles, faster, vehicles, etc. but the overall package that Land Cruiser is the best car ever made. Thank you for your video and your knowledge and your commentary. I really enjoy it and keep up the great work. You have a wonderful channel.
Hello. I already see another issue with ahs on that lexus. Somebody messed up with rear left height sensor linkage adjustment )) You better double check readiness of that sensor by techstream and make shure it is in right spot because otherwise suspention will have a problems. I perform AHS adjustments on Toyota and Lexus for many years by the way and want to add another part of common issues with it. It is the height sensors linkages and sensors itself. If they get rusty the car suspention will start it's own life by moving up and down with no reasons. You have a good day there!
Yea, I have to agree on the modifications. If you want a Toyota platform to modify for off-roading / overlanding, go simpler and go cheaper (and probably older models). You will also find a lot more after market parts simply because there is a bigger community and demand for them. I also would not for example want to be 500 miles from your nearest Toyota dealership, when something hard to find and expensive breaks. If you are hitch hiking out of the bush, kind of defeats the purpose. Like the FJ cruiser, 4runner, hilux, etc, share a lot of parts, and are way cheaper. Keep the land cruiser stock, the way it was designed to be. If I found the right one to buy, I would probably want to keep it simple and classic.
I've driven my 2001 Land Cruiser Prado 90 for 15 years with oil leaks and it's still working fine to this day. Just been adding half a bottle of oil every 5000 miles no big deal. So I don't think oil leaks are that big of a problem it's kind of overrated.
The AHC is a great system. With the exception of rusty bits, it is bulletproof, and if neglected, usually easily rehabbed. The major difference between the Land Cruiser and the LX is sound proofing. The LX is quieter. They are also more softly sprung. The LX is cheaper because there are much more of them. Land Cruisers are very rare in the US compared to the LX.
ARB bp 51 suspension improves the ride. allievates the nosedive when you break. also, SPC upper control arm better. improves castor the lift and has uniball.
I understand a mistrust of aftermarket parts and cheap lifts, but I don’t see an alternative to modifying one if you expect it to be a Land Cruiser in the historic sense. A stock 200 Series is simply not a serious 4x4. It’s a full size vehicle on a 31.5” tire with a relatively flat bottom. If you’re looking for a Toyota Suburban, then I 100% endorse the advice of keep it OEM and avoid modified suspensions. And, I’ve never heard a word of complaint about them as Toyota Suburbans. But I also never found one at the end of any moderately difficult 4x4 trails. If you want a “Land Cruiser” then you’re either going down the aftermarket rabbit hole yourself or should have a chat with Slee or a similar shop about options.
Can you answer the question that has vexed many? Despite being the same engines and transmissions, why does the Land Cruiser require regular fuel, while the LX570 Requires Premium Fuel?
Hi AMD, the 2007 Avalon is much nicer than any ES 350. The Avalon has much more leg room, more HP, reclining rear seats, soft open covers for the information center and surround sound controls, I believe a slightly larger trunk while having all the amenities of the Lexus except maybe a heated steering wheel. What the Avalon does not have is the Lexus badge and higher price. Avalon owners are smart not showy👍 oh and the Avalon has the same drivetrain as the Lexus just tuned differently.
I had a 2008 Avalon Limited and now drive a 2017 Lexus ES350. Yes the Avalon has more rear leg room and IMO the Lexus is quieter, rides softer and interior material is better.
I love the Land Cruiser . Its my dream car and you'd definitely be my dream mechanic, if I ever get one. I love the way you narrate the video as you show us around this legend. Kudos !
That LX has has the radiator replaced. It has the updated version. Radiators leak from a crack in the top tank that’s always in the same spot at the square part of it where they print markings on it. LC’s are generally more expensive because they are MUCH more rare than the LX 570.
FYI - relative just purchased a new 23 Corolla. Guess what - when she got home she found the two rubber car plugs in the glove box. Just like you cautioned. Dealership never popped them in. Think dealers take the cars off the truck & just sell them. No PDI or very little.
Both have the amazing 3UR-FE engine but the LC engine is tuned for regular gas and the LX570 premium. That's a huge difference to consider when you're driving these rugged machines for 300k+ miles. Definitely one of the reasons for the LC not depreciating as much as the LX570.
Good point on the fuel differences. LX engine is tuned for a whole two more HP -AND- requires premium -AND- most people say that it has a more sluggish acceleration feel as well.
LCs and LXs are manufactured in dedicated factories, in Japan, where as sequoias and tundras are manufactured in Texas - the LCs and LXs are manufactured to much higher performance and longevity targets/standards and thus the large price difference. I bought a 2000LC off the showroom floor, in Dec 2000, for $55k, sold it 12 yrs later, w/ 120k miles on it, for $30k… recently, in March 2023, I bought a 2019 LX570, w/ 8k miles on it, CPO, for $70k…. My wife literally tries to drive it every day, leaving her 2021 MB S580 4matic in the garage for me to drive….
I went with the Lexus LX570 2019 over the Land Cruiser for the very reason you said which was the Lexus was $5,000 cheaper and I got a 2-row which was huge for me.
Rust is a big problem on all these toyota bofs. I coated my gx460 underneath with fluid film . No rust anymore. Besides greasy appearance it is still new underneath. Dont forget to use fluid film on your new gx!
Love the content and THANK YOU for all you do! As an owner myself of a 2023 GX460, I'd love to learn more from you on that vehicle with regard to maintenance as you perform it on your own GX.
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AMD, The most common problem with the Land Cruiser 200 Series and LX 570 is that we CANNOT AFFORD them. 😉😂🤣 Having said that, we do wish Toyota would bring us some of the simpler, more affordable versions of the Land Cruiser they sell overseas. 🤞🤞
Well, we will be getting the Prado in the US simply badged as ‘Land Cruiser’. It’s been announced.
@@electrikoptikthat's not a land cruiser though
Roadrunner
@@DaddyGlez The Prado is just as much Land Cruiser as the bigger 200/300-series and 70-series Land Cruiser. The LC Prado started as a light duty version of the 70-series in 1984 which later in 1990 evolved to the J70 LC Prado. Afterwards came the J90, J120 and the current J150-series. The bigger 300-series is more robust and heavy duty but that does not make the LC Prado ‘lesser’.
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I do not own either a Land Cruiser or Lexus LX570, and probably never will. So why am I watching this video? Because this guy is good!!
Hehehe... I'd encourage you to consider owning one, just for the experience... You won't regret it 🫡
I am an owner of LC200, add to that:
1. Crack of top plastic of the radiator. It happens more to one’s with more driving cycle and cold climates.
2. Coolant leak from engine underneath the intake manifold, leak can be seen from bottom on the torque converter housing.
3. Sunroof drain plugs and leaks, water can go through the roof tell the kick of panel you have shown. It will corrode the big wire connection.
4. Rotors will warpage even through the brake pads still thick.
5. Transfer case actuator do go bad after some time and needs replacement. It will require dismantling the transfer case.
6. Be carful when you replace the air conditioning filter, put the ac at recalculation mode or you will brake the blind door.
7. 2016 and up do have more problems with blind doors actuator going bad.
Thank you for the informative Video👍
If I am not mistaken, the late models came with aisin 8speed.
All true. #6 I broke my actuator and it was a +$3000 repair
@@ianboyd7687@redfalcon 4469 Thank you. What is this “blind door” you speak of in 6 and 7?
@@RickActual When you remove the cabin air filter access port and the blower is in "outside air" mode you will see a curved black accordion-like cover over the filter. Don't try to force it open or you will break it. If it's already open in that mode and moves freely by hand, it's already broken and that means when you push the recirculate button nothing really happens. To access the filter without breaking it follow #6.
@@ianboyd7687 Great info! Thanks again.
As a shop that only works on Land Cruisers I cringed when he said he had never seen a radiator that leaked. For me I've yet to see a pre 18' that didn't leak. We have replaced every single one that come into the shop with the flaw on the embossment for the manufacturer. You can easily tell if it's the old crappy style because the edges around it are sharper. The new style that supersedes the old one has been redesigned with a thicker more smother edge that doesn't crack. Sometimes the crack is really small and if you have an iphone and put it in magnifier mode and zoom in you will see where the crack starts and it's in the corners of the embossment. Bad thing about the 570 is the plastic covers hide all this. I've yet to see this crack be the death nail for the 200 series but all pre 18's with this flaw will fail. Toyota should have extended the warranty on these. Also we see some with the center diff lock light that flashes when it's cold.
I think you nailed all the rest.
The radiator on my 2010 diesel has 540.000km and no leaks.
2008 model here, no leaks.
i had my 2010 replaced around 115k after it blew.. The diff lock was also flashing but it started working after banging it with a hammer a few times. ......
My 570 has replaced the radiator three years ago.
You work in a shop, you’re like a doctor but for cars. There are 1,000 people in my small town that have diabetes. Of a total population of 10,000 people. If I worked in a shop that sold diabetic test strips, I could say every person in this town seems to have diabetes. But there are 9,000 that don’t have it.
Not trying to take away from what your saying, just adding perspective. There’s about 18,000 LC 200 made per year. What percentage leak? 1%, 5%, 20%?
Now since I said this, I’m sure mine will leak 😅
I've had several Toyotas but the Land Cruiser build quality really does feel like a step up.
Land cruisers are built differently, thats why they are so expensive.
Well unlike most other Toyota’s sold recently. It was actually Made in Japan unlike other Toyota’s.
LC is made in Japan. 4Runner as well. Taco/Tundra/Seq. are USA made.
😂😂😂 from fkn what?
This is a diamond video to watch. Spot on on critical things to watch. Based on this video - I bought a Landcruiser VX V8 2011 60th Anniversary in 2024 with 105K km on the clock. So my 13 year old (two owner) car looked great. No rust. (Because driving in Malaysia). Upon purchase, changed ACH globes. So no longer does stationary dives at traffic lights. Drives like a dream at up to 165 kph on our expressway,. Cruising at 150kph is the norm. (Vs 120kph for the Landcruiser Prado 2.7L). Sits happily in long traffic jams if needed. It feels and looks like a new car despite being 13 years old! The "Facelift" to 2021 model and the PX6 16" (Tesla-esque) centre console makes the car feel new. Both done by the previous owner...
You are the man! I have spent months researching for 200 or LX 570 and this video has helped me so much. Everyone talks about how bulletproof they are but no one talks about key issues to look out for. It's always landcruiser last forever and just look for rust but that's about it. I don't want to spent top dollars then have to spend top dollar to fix it. If I do at least would like to know what I am getting myself into. Thank you so much for this video.
LC are hard to find. LX more likely especially one not taken off road. Best advice is find a good shop that specializes in LC/LX and spend the few hundred bucks on a thorough documented pre purchase inspection.
My 2010 diesel LC200 has 520.000 km, had two small problems, my car lives in the worst conditions a car can exist in. Replacing the oil every 15.000km and tectyl treat the car every 3 years is the key to few problems. Rust is the main cause for expensive repairs for LC200.
May I ask what top dollar is? I bought mine and thought it was truly expensive. LC200 2008 V6 Petrol 124.000km for almost 13.000 Euro. No rust, basically perfect condition. But still.... 15 year old car for that price, ouch.
@@QnA22 top dollar is $25,000-$30,000 for 2008. You got a steal with yours. Super cheap!
This is true of every Toyota to be honest. The kool-aid drinking fan boys do an excellent job of covering things up and making you think you’ll never need a repair done ever. They need repairs and maintenance just like anything else.
yours truly,
1995 4Runner, GX460, and LX570 owner.
I’ve owned several land cruisers and rust has been the demise of them. Sadly living in eastern North America, it’s a BIG problem.
That coupled with expensive parts. Otherwise I would have kept my Toyotas forever. They never let me down, they are machines , and wear and require maintenance, but they are well made.
So now I’m shopping for my last LandCruiser/LX 570, or GX V8. Shopping can be fun, when you’re shopping for a new TOY !
Really appreciate your time recording these videos, I wished I lived near you because I would work with you to find me my last ride.
Peace! And have a great DAY.
FYI. The cost to fix the oil leak on the center stack shown on the LX will be between $7-10k depending on the shop. If it has been leaking for some time you can expect to replace the rubber hoses in the area because the oil will deteriorate them. I went through this on one of mine 2 years ago. If you see this run. Move on to the next one.
what is a center stack?
If they all do it, shouldn’t you run from all of them eventually? Thx.
I shopped for and found a 2013 LX570. Gorgeous 1 owner, dealer maintained, all records no accident history. That all checks out. But! Its from Long island albeit a very "nice" neighborhood. Frame "crust" starting. Only 50,000 miles, but needing immediate attention on the undercarriage. 2 weeks in the AHC springs a leak. Rusted hydraulics line. 😢
Fast forward i replaced that line. De-scaled all frame rust including suspension and lines. Neutralized rust and now I'm POR 15 painting the underside and will be lanolin treated inside and outside frame! I'm in for the long haul and I genuinely love this car!
What's wrong with the oil under spray. In Canada we have companies like Krown Rust Control, Rust Check and others that do a great job of combating rust. It's an annual application, but it works very well and will increase your resale value.
Buy a new car. Never used car.
The Radiator is a common issue on the 08-17 models with the actual core itself but the neck that is made of thin plastic and cracks over time. Toyota updated the designed with a thicker, chamfered neck in the 2018+ models. Also Cam tower & coolant vallet leaks as all 5.7 3UR's are susceptible to can also go wrong.
“The Radiator”!!!!
I bought a 2015 Lexus LX 570 this past February, and it has been a great experience. It spent most of its previous life in Oklahoma and Arkansas, so rust was never an issue I had to consider. I've wanted a Land Cruiser since I was 18, and now 14 years later have managed to get one with 88k miles. Car Care Nut is proper; the engine bay is very cramped, so changing my spark plugs out compared to my 05' Camry was a hassle. Fortunately, there is a great community of enthusiasts out there who will gladly help you sort your truck out. The LX was about $10k cheaper than similar Land Cruiser models of the same year and mileage. I'd encourage anyone to buy a well-maintained LX over a well-maintained Land Cruiser for that reason.
How much did you get your LX for I’m looking at at 2014 lx570 with 148,000 miles and they want 30,000 after taxes and everything. I’m considering doing it seems like a very clean vehicle it’s just a lot of money haha.
@@EazysJourneydid you end up doing it?
@@floofyboii6034 I did end up doing it found a 13’ with 135,000 miles and got it for $27.5k before taxes. Unfortunately it was not very well maintained and the transmission is on its way out and leaking oil from everything and the front shocks are leaking suspension fluid so kinda got fucked on it, thinking about selling it currently..
I think your channel is a gift to the Toyota community. I have a 2019 LC 200 and plan to pass it down to the next generation. I have noticed that the air conditioning dampers sometimes misdirect air on the driver side, but then the problem spontaneously went away and hasn’t come back in the last year. It is nice that your channel has a couple of videos on the LC, which usually doesn’t get much discussion in depth, probably because there are not many of them.
Good Video. I agree and disagree with several things. 1) Radiator (Disagree) The factory radiator rarely lasts more than 70-80K. Both of these 200's have the newer style radiators so they have both been replaced. 2) Timer cover leak/cooling tower leak is very rare. You are much more likely to have a valley coolant leak. 3) Suspension mods (Neutral), 200 series suspension mods on the market are very good. You can change your LC for the better with a good suspension setup. 4) Rust. (100 percent agree). Especially in the LX models, you will have very expensive AHC leaks. 5) LC cost more than LX because of supply and demand. There are about half as many LC's in the US than the LX...both had very low production numbers. Bonus issue: Cycle the 4LO, many of these the 4LO actuator will fail to engage. Especially if 4LO is never used. The internal contacts get rusty and corrode.
Great video!! Looked at four of these and bought an LX about a month ago. Common things to look for or anticipate:
- Rusty frame, exhaust, trans pan bolts (rusty stock skid bolts are normal)
- Rust on AHC lines/globes (LX) or KDSS components (LC)
- Valley plate coolant leak (hard to see, leaks to top of front of trans)
- Cam tower oil leak
- Valve / timing cover oil leak (around dipstick)
- Non-original glass (can cause issues w/ leaks in door sills and A-pillars, affecting electronics)
- Non-working rain-sensing wipers (usually caused by non-original glass)
- Clogged sunroof drain (can cause issues w/ leaks in door sills and A-pillars, affecting electronics)
- Radiator hairline crack around protrusion (original radiator) will eventually leak - carry JB Weld
- Starter (will randomly, possibly inevitably, fail)
- Leaky struts
- 4 Hi/Lo or Center Diff Actuator not working
- Radio/amp restarts or doesn't work (amp is under carpet of driver seat, multi display ECU under passenger seat)
- Broken AC recirculation door (where you change the cabin filter) - fixed w/ a 3D printed part or a full replacement
- Side mirror flicker/wobble - easily fixed w/ replacement bolt & cover kit
- Passenger seat cooler (failed ECU under passenger seat due to corrosion in passenger door sill / A-pillar)
- U-joint in driveline loose
- Failed bushings throughout
- Brakes are generally poor until 2016; can replace w/ Tundra [need to replace lines] or 16+ [need to expand caliper bolt hole]
- Broken wood trim up front
Jeez, how much did all that cost you to fix?
@@anthonyrice8528 it’s what I saw in four different vehicles. I picked the one with a leaky front strut, broken trim, and broken recirc door (but I think all of them had broken recirc doors). I expect to replace radiator, starter, and brakes.
Did you buy a new LX? I cannot believe it.
Key take away: don't try and run a land cruiser on a tight budget, and don't buy one from someone who has.
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These things are so expensive and can't take you anywhere and lifted tundra 5.7 with 37's and another locking diff installed. For less than half the price. If used 1/5 the price. These are now a luxury buy and not something people take offroad anymore
Another check recommendation for a very common issue: CABIN AIR FILTER DOOR
Check to make sure it moves appropriately from recirc to fresh mode. This door can be found through the glove box.
The cabin air filter is only accessible if the air is in recirc mode. This isn’t made clear (especially on earlier models of the 200), and the door is often forced open to replace or inspect the filter, even by Toyota techs. This can pop the door off its solenoid pin, or worse, break the pin or its housing. Popping it back in place can be done, but requires removing the glove box. Repairing it requires tedious door removal and superglue. Replacing it requires total dash removal and big $$$, from what I understand. Lots of details on IH8MUD of this issue (~1/3 of surveyed had it).
If broken, I’d demand it to be fixed and get photo proof that the fix was high quality. If the cabin air filter door doesn’t work, you can fog up the interior glass real bad in wet conditions, making a driving hazard. Not to mention you’re paying a lot for this vehicle: The recirc/fresh selector should work, period.
That's why I do it myself. Follow instructions, no issues.
I’m glad you posted this up, might not have heard about this otherwise. Thanks
I just bought an LX570 and was hoping you would make a video about them...and here we are! Big thanks!
My dream car, I prefer the LC because of no AHC, another item I don’t have to worry about servicing. And the back hatch is manual, takes 2 seconds to close the door with my hand not a button.
Hands down one of the best channels on RUclips. And this is coming from a GM guy!
i own a 2016 LX570 with 250,000+ km. The car has been extremely reliable with the desert heat at 50c and rough roads when i go off-roading. Yet you travel comfortably known that you'd reach your destination no matter what. once i was in Empty Quarter in Saudi arabia, the nearest town was 400km away. the fuel pump started failing due to sand in fuel tank, yet the car turned on and drove across the desert until i reached a mechanic shop.
This video saved me 29,000 dollars. I was looking at a 2010 LC but once I climbed underneath with the information I was given in this video I walked away. Rust everywhere and oil leaks combined with aftermarket windshield. I will continue my search and continue to drive my old 4runner. Thank you for posting this very informative video.
This mechanic is humble, practical ans wise man! Big respect to him.
We roll in a 2017 Lexus LX 570 with 23,000 miles on it, and all I can say is WOW. The vehicle is very comfortable, very capable, and were very satisfied.
Happy owner of a 2013 LX570 with 76k km. Only 3 years of limited winter driving but it rusted fast. Good to learn about oil spots to watch out for. I removed 3rd row and swapped to Tundra brake kit. LX is heavy with a hundred small motors, sound proofing, and oversized components (motor mounts!) that are made to last forever. Hard to find after-market parts. Hydraulic lift is great to lower for my wife's bad hip and rising to full height for off-road.
As the owner of an LX470 I relate heavily to the stigma of land cruiser owners 😂 Excellent video as always, I would love to upgrade to a 200 series one day and this will help immensely!
I had an LX470 and thought it was the best car I ever owned until I upgraded to a 570. Upgrade if you can, you won’t regret it, but I do regret not keeping the LX470.
Lol, the worst ones are on the Land Cruiser subreddit when someone posts a question about which to buy. They talk about the LX’s AHC like it’s riding around with a Range Rover’s air suspension yet never mention anything about LC’s with AHC ever having a problem. Then they talk about the 20/21” rims like they turn the LX into an AWD Sienna off-road.
“Oh myyy gwaaaaahd those LX’s! They’re just teeeeahrrible! The fancyness just ruins them!” -Idiots.
@@aaronmacy9134 Love my lx570 with ahc that's still mint condition lol, I mean I've thrown the thing airborne multiple times 5-6 feet into the air offroad. The cream interior is extra work to keep clean for sure though.
Me too…then the GX550 was released with the same 112.2” wheelbase so, there’s that now as well!😊
@@joshuacloutier840 it’ll just become a garage queen if/when the GX550 happens
I followed this channel when it barely had subscribers. Now up to 755k. This is one of the best technical toyota/lexus channel period, none of that Scotty K BS.
I bought a 2023 4runner TRD pro and my bottom hurts so much after driving 2-3 hours in it, now I'm seriously thinking to trad in for a 2016-2019 LX570, thanks for the video!
Great video @CCN! I've owned 2 200 Series now (08 LX & 13 LC) and I actually miss the LX because of all the comfort features and amenities that the LC's utilitarian nature doesn't possess. In addition, you forgot to mention 1 achilles hill in the 200 series, valley plate/heat exchanger leak, which is very common in the 3UR-FE. If anyone is looking at one of these, bring a scope with you to look under the intake before purchasing. This alone can be a $1,200 fix.
OMG I have been waiting for this very video! I have wanted a LC for over 30 years. I have always had Toyotas since 1987. For work I drove GMC, Ford, and Dodge off road for 3 decades, so Toyotas were always for me. In late 2021, I finally scored a 2019 LC, 1 owner, no accidents, not fleet, Certified, with 21K miles. Unbelievable. Clean as a whistle. Yes, I looked. Loved it so much that we sold the 2019 Tundra Crewmax Limited with 30k the last May 2023 and bought a Certified 2019 LX 570. One owner. No accidents. Not fleet. Had 30k miles. I was nervous about the AHC system. We really wanted another LC but it is difficult to find one that isn't over priced or was/is compromised mechanically. I caught flak from friends on the LX but continue to say over and over that it is simply a LC in a tuxedo and not as valuable as the LC. There were on average only about 3,000 LCs imported each year over the last 2? decades. There were only 4,000 LX's imported. So there is the simple availability factor. But people treat the LX wirth awe but I always explain the LC is simpler. I like the KDSS better and I simply like the way it drives better than the LX. Unfortunately, I don't trust the Lexus dealership where I live. I only trust one Toyota dealership which is 120 miles away (but worth the TLC). But, both dealerships have said they don't see either respective vehicle very often. Again, not that many 200 LCs and LX 570's around. So, for serious stuff I may have to drive to Chicago to see you or perhaps the specialty shop in Boise which would be a "going on vacation" type of repair. The dealerships are frightening, unfortunately.
Bought a used rust free lx470 from Louisiana last year and it’s the best purchase I have ever made. If you want to keep the AHC working properly, change the fluid.
Great Video! I’m a 8yr LX570 owner and love it! (Owned 2 LCs before it) One more reason the LX costs less than the Land Cruiser is availability. 3-4x more LX570’s than LC200s were sold in the US every year (before the LC200 was discontinued). Simple supply and demand.
For those of you looking to buy, these are bomber vehicles, but know they are COSTLY! Even used. Very expensive to fuel, insure, and repair. For DIY maintenance get your parts from Toyota (it shares most mechanical parts with the LC200, or cheaper still, partsouq.
I do agree on the lifting and modifying personally. It is perfect as it is. But I have also modified many of them in my younger years, too. I think for every individual they should make it to be the way they want, and I will never judge anyone for modifying their vehicle. Even if it is not to my taste, it makes them happy. That's what life is all about right? Finding happiness in everything you do :-) God bless, and great video!
Love that you had a salsa red LC200, lx570 and Gx460 all at the same time!
Thats actually the GX470 because it the rear end design
After driving a 2010 GX for many years, I thought I wanted a LX570. I was ready to buy one and took it for a test drive and was very surprised that I hated it. The visibility was not as good as the GX, it felt incredibly bloated and cumbersome, and somehow didn’t feel that much bigger inside than the GX. Ended up buying a 2023 GX460 caviar black on black with Levinson and I love it. Powerful yet nimble and a joy to drive. I felt like the LX was a burden to drive at least for a daily anyway.
That is such a smart observation - you buy these because they're built like tanks, but if you replace them with non-tank parts, then it's really not a Land Cruiser - a tank - anymore!
The Lexus LX is actually not cheaper. To buy yes but not to own. The biggest issue is that it's tuned for premium gas. And if anything goes wrong that you can't fix yourself, mechanics will charge the Lexus premium. That's why the Land Cruiser is worth more.
i have one for my dad's 2019 toyota land cruiser some removal third row seat september 2019 some more room and it very reliable and no issues whatsoever
Maybe the Lexus has better quality interior materials, maybe, but to my taste, the Land Cruiser just looks much better outside and inside, it's just my opinion. You can't go wrong with one or the other. Great video as usual AMD
I've had both and I agree, the LC wins me over 2:1. That said it's a personal decision and surprisingly most on the forums seem to favor the LX.
U my friend is a true car doctor.....wished I lived in ur area n will pay u to pre-inspect a vehicle b4 purchase
We have a 2019 LC VXR at our vacation home in the Caribbean. Much nicer bumpers, interior, wheels and a twin turbo diesel V8. Although it still has less than 5000miles, it has been absolutely flawless, as you’d expect. It’s a shame the US spec has such poor trim options.
I compared/test drove the new 2021 LC200 Heritage Edition and new 2021 LX570 Inspiration series, both the cars were fully loaded will all options. After test driving both SUVs the LX570 felt slower compared to LC200, with a slower gearbox and slower steering (maybe done for luxury) and the LC200 felt quick for such a huge heavy car and gave a feeling of solidity that is impossible to replicate in other cars. Finally I ended up buying the 2021 LC200 Heritage Edition because it was more fun to drive, relatively speaking, and it was a better looking SUV compared to the LX570. There is definitely something different in the drive feel of LX570 and LC200, seems to me as if intentionally done by Toyota. In the past I have only owned German cars and it was pleasant change with the Japanese LC200, in terms of refinement and performance.
like he said, they are exactly the same. Completely different than the American crap like the Tundra and Sequoia.
Agree. I have both the 2019 LC and the 2019 LX. Nearly same mileage. The LX is a touring car, very cushy. I can almost fall asleep driving it. My husband loves the LX. For me, the LC is more enjoyable to drive. It feels more alive and suits my better overall. We use the LX for long pleasure drives since it has a luxurious ride and that way I don't put the miles on the LC. We are working people. No cc debt but do love our 2 cars...worth the debt. Proven SAFE, reliable, and comfortable.
Everything you said is spot on one thing to note though is it went from a six speed to eight speed transmission.
Only reason to buy this car is because of long term reliability. Other cars are better in every way but this Toyota products excels in longterm reliability. I prefer the Lx over the landcruiser though
I had the LX470, and then the LX570. The engines are very reliable. But I had to replace the air-suspension in both. Add that to the 200 miles to a $100 tank of gas-terrible gas mileage-awful handling on the road-and incredibly expensive general repairs after 100,000 miles-and very expensive prices to buy or lease-and I just gave up on them and went to another big SUV for my family.
Just pulled the trigger on lx 570 - 2010.
One owner
Perfect Franchise service record.
Cost the same as a used VW polo.
Wish me luck
If it hadn't been corrected, it was a 6spd vs 8spd transmission. And there is more to a LC vs. LX difference, one of the big ones is towing capacity, 1500lbs difference plus.
Land Cruiser videos are always satisfying to watch👏 something has to be said about these cars even compared to other Toyota trucks since they rust at a noticeably lesser level imo
Noooooo!!!! My whole plan is to someday replace my GX with a 200 series LX because it’s cheaper than the LC. Your channel is big enough that now the secret’s out. I can already hear used lot managers yelling to add $5k to their LX’s window stickers.
Great video though!
The LX costs more to modify for off-road. The electronic air suspension needs to be replaced with normal suspension. The bumper and side skirts needs to be replaced for more ground clearance. The big wheels need to be changed with smaller wheels and higher sidewall tires.
I personally don't plan on getting a land cruiser, but I'm definitely a Toyota fan. Toyota's really are the best of the best in most cases. Honda and Mazda are probably the second and third runners up. I personally like the simple and light weight cars, and honestly prefer a standard transmission where I push in a clutch pedal and shit the gears myself. This is still a very interesting video though, and I really think it's a good example of the market showing what most people don't know. Thank you for the interesting videos, and I'm sure this is helpful to the people that actually want a land cruiser for it's practical use instead of just it's badge.👍👍
I bought a used LX570 in part based on this review (made sure it was not rusty). My plan was to have it inspected by the CCN for a post vehicle purchase inspection as I am within a 1 hour drive from the CCN shop. However, I had to go another route as the standard used car warranty period is 15 days & 500 miles. CCN is booking appointments 6+ weeks out, which did not work for my situation. Either way, good to see that business is booming for the CCN.
I tried for two years before the prices went wild to buy an LC. I gave up because people are just willing to pay far more than I.
If there's a gap more than a 20k between oil changes, I wouldn't buy it because the damage might already been done. Maintenance is key (plus a record)
Land cruisers look better in my opinion.
Excellent Video! I have a 2009 LX 570 (same color as the one in your video) I bought it used with 130,000 miles on it serviced at the local dealership per all recommended maintenance schedules. It replaced my 2003 LX 470 that was totaled when a driver ran a red light. I learned about rust with that rig, but still drove it everywhere here in the NW. I narrowed my newer car search to 2 LX's and a Landcruiser...the rig I always wanted. All 3 where comparable in age and mileage, but in the end I saved 4K and purchased the LX as it had complete service history and the landcruiser did not. The other LX had been sitting on a lot for 100 days and the dealer would only come down 1 K. Ironically, he called me back the next day to "deal" but I had already purchased the other LX. Mine is stock except some Black rims I put on but I have been in Snow, Mud, lots of rain and this Beast goes anywhere. Again, enjoyed the video very informative.
Ive already viewed all of his vids about the 4Runner...for me, the ONLY upgrade that im looking to get into is an LC200/LX...or if i can dream big enough, this new GX...thank you for giving us this vid...
The most common problem with the LC200 is the high prices.
As someone who bought an 05' Sequoia at only 18, I hope to eventually get my hands on a 200 series.
I had a 100 series that was fully built. 5.29 gears, transfer case gears, 35"s bumpers, etc. Miss that rig so much. I plan on buying a 2017 LX570 in a few years and putting portals with 38" tires on it. Been a long time since I have been able to go offroading and I cant wait to get on the trails again with the newer tech and creature comforts.
In the US the J200 never had a five-speed transmission. It started with the six-speed and went to eight gears with the mid-cycle refresh in 2016.
The best 200 series engine is 4.5L twin turbo V8 diesel.
The 1VD-FTV
The diesel makes a lot more sense, but have more issues.
I like the Land-cruiser better. It’s more beautiful inside.
I would get the LX purely for the Mark Levinson audio. Otherwise, really can't go wrong with either. Many Land Cruisers in my family and they all just keeeeeeep going.
One of the best LandCruiser and LX videos.
My LC200 2010 diesel went 423.000km before the first problem striked, speed sensors on front wheels. Outside of tectyl treatment every 3 years and normal maintenance I have never had a single problem, the water pump sweats minimally. In my country a LC200 2010 - 2017 costed $90.000 new, now a used 2014 with 300.000km goes for $110.000. Modified my LC200 to a Arctic Trucks AT37 5 years ago, never had a single problem with the modification.
Thank you for your video! I purchased an 2019 LX last year (certified). It’s the best car/truck I’ve ever owned… period.
Key-points
1. Look out for after market parts replacements.
2. Look out for Rust especially underneath.
3. Look out for bad mechanic work.
4. DO NOT DARE BUY A USED ONE (you’ll most likely encounter 1, 2 & 3)
Noted Sir. Thank you so much 🙏
Fun fact for Toyota/Lexus owners in general: If you have a 6th-gen Lexus ES350, Avalon, or some Camry's, and you are due for a brake job: Toyota Highlander larger front rotors/twin-piston calipers/pads are a direct bolt-on to those smaller cars. For my car, an ES350, it's basically a "budget" big-brake upgrade, huge increase in stopping power without braking the bank.
While you can't do much about exhaust rust, I fluid film everything - inside and out of the frame, suspension, doors, rockers, tail gate, fenders, under the hood - every single fall from new. Do that and it will never rust. So worth $100 - 150 / year.
Why does the Land Cruiser use 87 octane gas where as the LX requires 91 octane if they are exactly the same? And is there any risk putting 87 octane gas in the LX? Thanks in advance!
I like the 200 series LC but if I really wanted one I'd just buy an outgoing LX570 for a better overall vehicle at a lower, non-inflated price.
Goat is so loosely an overused these days, but that Land Cruiser 200 series is the greatest vehicle ever made. It is the Lionel Messi of cars or vehicles, or SUVs whatever you wanna call it. If you had to pick one truck to go from Alaska to Argentina it would be a 200 series. if you want to pick a truck to own for the next 25 years and hand down to your family and it still be worth a lot of money, that’s a 200 series Land Cruiser. Simply stated there are more expensive vehicles, more prestigious, vehicles, faster, vehicles, etc. but the overall package that Land Cruiser is the best car ever made. Thank you for your video and your knowledge and your commentary. I really enjoy it and keep up the great work. You have a wonderful channel.
Hello.
I already see another issue with ahs on that lexus.
Somebody messed up with rear left height sensor linkage adjustment ))
You better double check readiness of that sensor by techstream and make shure it is in right spot because otherwise suspention will have a problems.
I perform AHS adjustments on Toyota and Lexus for many years by the way and want to add another part of common issues with it.
It is the height sensors linkages and sensors itself.
If they get rusty the car suspention will start it's own life by moving up and down with no reasons.
You have a good day there!
Iam a 200 series guy i always watch your video i learned alot thanks a lot
Yea, I have to agree on the modifications. If you want a Toyota platform to modify for off-roading / overlanding, go simpler and go cheaper (and probably older models). You will also find a lot more after market parts simply because there is a bigger community and demand for them. I also would not for example want to be 500 miles from your nearest Toyota dealership, when something hard to find and expensive breaks. If you are hitch hiking out of the bush, kind of defeats the purpose. Like the FJ cruiser, 4runner, hilux, etc, share a lot of parts, and are way cheaper. Keep the land cruiser stock, the way it was designed to be. If I found the right one to buy, I would probably want to keep it simple and classic.
The landcruiser has a very healthy aftermarket. On par or maybe more than other Toyota trucks.
I've driven my 2001 Land Cruiser Prado 90 for 15 years with oil leaks and it's still working fine to this day. Just been adding half a bottle of oil every 5000 miles no big deal. So I don't think oil leaks are that big of a problem it's kind of overrated.
The AHC is a great system. With the exception of rusty bits, it is bulletproof, and if neglected, usually easily rehabbed. The major difference between the Land Cruiser and the LX is sound proofing. The LX is quieter. They are also more softly sprung. The LX is cheaper because there are much more of them. Land Cruisers are very rare in the US compared to the LX.
I love the level of honesty in this review
ARB bp 51 suspension improves the ride. allievates the nosedive when you break. also, SPC upper control arm better. improves castor the lift and has uniball.
My exact setup 👌
@@xzerbaluyot9994same here!
Very informative... I have 2021 lx570.. with 30,000 miles.. and really I can't stand the looks of the the new 300 series..
I understand a mistrust of aftermarket parts and cheap lifts, but I don’t see an alternative to modifying one if you expect it to be a Land Cruiser in the historic sense. A stock 200 Series is simply not a serious 4x4. It’s a full size vehicle on a 31.5” tire with a relatively flat bottom.
If you’re looking for a Toyota Suburban, then I 100% endorse the advice of keep it OEM and avoid modified suspensions. And, I’ve never heard a word of complaint about them as Toyota Suburbans. But I also never found one at the end of any moderately difficult 4x4 trails.
If you want a “Land Cruiser” then you’re either going down the aftermarket rabbit hole yourself or should have a chat with Slee or a similar shop about options.
THE Best car reviewer hands down !
I’ve owned many Land cruisers
Excellent motors
Hard to beat
Can you answer the question that has vexed many? Despite being the same engines and transmissions, why does the Land Cruiser require regular fuel, while the LX570 Requires Premium Fuel?
Hi AMD, the 2007 Avalon is much nicer than any ES 350. The Avalon has much more leg room, more HP, reclining rear seats, soft open covers for the information center and surround sound controls, I believe a slightly larger trunk while having all the amenities of the Lexus except maybe a heated steering wheel. What the Avalon does not have is the Lexus badge and higher price. Avalon owners are smart not showy👍 oh and the Avalon has the same drivetrain as the Lexus just tuned differently.
I had a 2008 Avalon Limited and now drive a 2017 Lexus ES350. Yes the Avalon has more rear leg room and IMO the Lexus is quieter, rides softer and interior material is better.
I love the Land Cruiser . Its my dream car and you'd definitely be my dream mechanic, if I ever get one. I love the way you narrate the video as you show us around this legend. Kudos !
That LX has has the radiator replaced. It has the updated version. Radiators leak from a crack in the top tank that’s always in the same spot at the square part of it where they print markings on it. LC’s are generally more expensive because they are MUCH more rare than the LX 570.
FYI - relative just purchased a new 23 Corolla. Guess what - when she got home she found the two rubber car plugs in the glove box. Just like you cautioned. Dealership never popped them in. Think dealers take the cars off the truck & just sell them. No PDI or very little.
Both have the amazing 3UR-FE engine but the LC engine is tuned for regular gas and the LX570 premium.
That's a huge difference to consider when you're driving these rugged machines for 300k+ miles.
Definitely one of the reasons for the LC not depreciating as much as the LX570.
Good point on the fuel differences. LX engine is tuned for a whole two more HP -AND- requires premium -AND- most people say that it has a more sluggish acceleration feel as well.
Same car. Only an idiot would pay more for one of them. Rust and leaks are the important stuff.
LCs and LXs are manufactured in dedicated factories, in Japan, where as sequoias and tundras are manufactured in Texas - the LCs and LXs are manufactured to much higher performance and longevity targets/standards and thus the large price difference. I bought a 2000LC off the showroom floor, in Dec 2000, for $55k, sold it 12 yrs later, w/ 120k miles on it, for $30k… recently, in March 2023, I bought a 2019 LX570, w/ 8k miles on it, CPO, for $70k…. My wife literally tries to drive it every day, leaving her 2021 MB S580 4matic in the garage for me to drive….
I went with the Lexus LX570 2019 over the Land Cruiser for the very reason you said which was the Lexus was $5,000 cheaper and I got a 2-row which was huge for me.
2024 LC is coming back to the US and can’t wait for your technical review.
Glad To Have You & Servicing My 4RUNNER 😎
Rust is a big problem on all these toyota bofs. I coated my gx460 underneath with fluid film . No rust anymore. Besides greasy appearance it is still new underneath. Dont forget to use fluid film on your new gx!
I can’t wait to see a video on a 2016 Toyota Sienna SE Premium : Complete Spark plug change .
I am a fan , all the way from Yorktown Texas 🇨🇱.
You covered pretty much everything. The earlier ones had belt/tensioner issues also
Love the content and THANK YOU for all you do! As an owner myself of a 2023 GX460, I'd love to learn more from you on that vehicle with regard to maintenance as you perform it on your own GX.
In Kenya, we get the LC200 with the 1UR engine. Really enjoyed this video.
Great review on the 200 series, I was eagerly looking for a review on the common issues on the 200 series. Thank you for sharing!
200 series owner checking in here… I’ve always loved your channel and I just noticed the little fish in your logo, ichthys. So cool.❤❤