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  • Опубликовано: 20 фев 2019
  • Today we restore this great tradition with a stand-off between two legendary heavies: the Soviet T-72A and the American M1 Abrams.
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  • @brucegrant7884
    @brucegrant7884 5 лет назад +1056

    Hey, you intrepid tankers… I want to correct a slight misunderstanding that COULD exist! I narrated, “ One might argue that the Abrams has better armour on the sides - as well as an autoloader that makes it a considerably deadlier opponent.” It should have been, “One might argue that the Abrams has better armour on the sides - but, the T80’s autoloader that makes it a considerably more explosive target.”

    • @Berserker3062
      @Berserker3062 5 лет назад +14

      So, I don't get it. If you all know the M1 isn't a real 10.0 why is it placed there?

    • @JamesVDBosch
      @JamesVDBosch 5 лет назад +43

      @@Berserker3062
      Uhmm, what?
      The M1 is likely to be the strongest MBT in the game shared with the Type 90.

    • @JamesVDBosch
      @JamesVDBosch 5 лет назад +2

      @Singha Mura
      The Leopard 2A4 is literally just a worse M1IP in every single aspect possible.
      But sure, totally takes first place ))))))

    • @JamesVDBosch
      @JamesVDBosch 5 лет назад +3

      @Singha Mura
      Mobility? M1IP.
      Protection (turret)? M1IP.
      Protection (hull)? M1IP.
      Survivability? M1IP.
      Gun handling? M1IP.
      Firepower? Tied.
      But sure, Leo 2A4 is totally better.

    • @JamesVDBosch
      @JamesVDBosch 5 лет назад +7

      @Singha Mura
      M1IP has a vastly superior hull traverse.
      M1IP has a quicker turret traverse and slightly better gun depression.
      HEAT-FS is worse as a stock round than M735.
      Doesn't have better post-pen damage, calibre is irrelevant, it's the coding, and they're coded the same.
      Survivability is MUCH worse on the Leo 2A4, driver is off-set to the right and is now in a direct line with the gunner and commander, easy 3/4 OHKs.
      Also, hull ammo rack.
      Leo 2A4's weakspots are larger than the M1IP's, so moot point there as well.
      ''M1IP's insufficiency''
      LEL
      Sure, currently sitting on a 6.5 - 1 K/D ratio, 75% winrate, average of 3.1 kills per match M1 Abrams.
      Totally insufficient, buff plsss...

  • @Lait_De_Brebis
    @Lait_De_Brebis 3 года назад +466

    The Abrams does have an autoloader. It's just different kind. Its name is "organic autoloader" or more often called "crew member"

    • @onlinebean9813
      @onlinebean9813 3 года назад +14

      Not funny did not laugh

    • @Lait_De_Brebis
      @Lait_De_Brebis 3 года назад +70

      @@onlinebean9813 Understandable, have a great day.

    • @umbananaqualquer4052
      @umbananaqualquer4052 3 года назад +5

      I am so sorry to get it to work tomorrow

    • @BYRDE1917
      @BYRDE1917 3 года назад +6

      @@onlinebean9813 it is not meant to be funny

    • @diligentone-six2688
      @diligentone-six2688 2 года назад +1

      It's called Effort and Exercise with little complaints nor any disadvantages.

  • @YuriYoshiosan
    @YuriYoshiosan 4 года назад +710

    "No Retreat."
    - Stalin
    That's why Soviets can't reverse their tanks.

  • @siddhanttambe4066
    @siddhanttambe4066 5 лет назад +1046

    Wait what?
    Abrams has autoloader
    Gaijin is high on snails...

    • @mindfreak078589
      @mindfreak078589 5 лет назад +30

      Nah they just don't bother to even play what they've created. They just want you to shower them with schmeckles and leave so you don't over use their underpowered engine and servers.

    • @samuelmerrill7661
      @samuelmerrill7661 5 лет назад +10

      The Abrahams actually doesn't have an automatic loader

    • @callmejoejoe6516
      @callmejoejoe6516 5 лет назад +6

      The Abrams new version that coming out will have a autoloader but there no abrams in series at the moment that have one

    • @Huskycomicowner
      @Huskycomicowner 5 лет назад +1

      Lol

    • @excalibur_maga6188
      @excalibur_maga6188 5 лет назад +3

      @@callmejoejoe6516 No it won't. Stop spouting BS.

  • @phippsies001
    @phippsies001 5 лет назад +317

    Once again proof the dev's dont actually play the game at top tier

    • @murphym3755
      @murphym3755 5 лет назад +7

      r Phippsies Or care about America... 😢😢😢

    • @lorddeathofmurdermountain76
      @lorddeathofmurdermountain76 4 года назад +10

      The t-72 should have been blown up they were not using heat rounds just apfsds rounds

    • @maxim6088
      @maxim6088 4 года назад +11

      Abrams is much better then the t72a both irl and in game, but the t80 is an equally good vehicle irl, but in game it is better, that is a it unfair, although it is what it is, and for me an American top tier player it does not make a difference, I think it's ok

    • @Fyrdman
      @Fyrdman 3 года назад +1

      @@lorddeathofmurdermountain76 APFSDS is better than HEAT in the game, because the latter ignores the angle of armour when you penn something.

    • @mr.stealyourgirl1104
      @mr.stealyourgirl1104 3 года назад +1

      Fr fr, the whole game is rigged in high tier

  • @brucegrant7884
    @brucegrant7884 5 лет назад +133

    It's great that all you guys are so tuned-in to what is being said. I also have to be kept on my toes, to make sure that I say the correct thing! Thanks for being so attentive. We really do LOVE your comments!

  • @steventapper4866
    @steventapper4866 3 года назад +40

    Gaijin casually ignoring the huge turret ring on the abrams and the ammo carrousel on the t-72 And t-80b

  • @bryannrisse3852
    @bryannrisse3852 5 лет назад +263

    5:07 The M1 Abram does not have a auto loader. What the Hell

  • @Citizen_Snips1
    @Citizen_Snips1 5 лет назад +37

    2:04 *Notices a lack of ammo in the turret carousel, the LFP shot would of likely set off any ammo stored there*

    • @MaskFky
      @MaskFky 8 месяцев назад

      Ngl nobody cares, it doesn't matter anyway

    • @wacky_duck1095
      @wacky_duck1095 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@MaskFky yeah the whole turret being blown sky high because of the ammo doesnt matter

    • @deathmetalfan
      @deathmetalfan 28 дней назад

      @@wacky_duck1095 usually when im playing t72 only my driver dies cuz the abrams is a lot taller and doesnt hit the ammo with the angle

  • @CathFawr
    @CathFawr 5 лет назад +397

    Uh.. Abrams autoloader?

    • @Pulkz
      @Pulkz 5 лет назад +12

      About to say

    • @spacialsonic7779
      @spacialsonic7779 5 лет назад +7

      Abrams not autoloader because need loader for reload skill :Kappa:

    • @mindfreak078589
      @mindfreak078589 5 лет назад +18

      Just go to show that these people don't even play the gamr.

    • @sarttee
      @sarttee 5 лет назад +10

      you would think that gaijin would atleast do research before makign a video.... but w/e

    • @sovietred7371
      @sovietred7371 5 лет назад +7

      Slip of the tongue maybe?

  • @BarManFesteiro
    @BarManFesteiro 5 лет назад +166

    Somethings they say in this video makes me think the devs dont play the game

    • @andromeda4047
      @andromeda4047 3 года назад

      Я пытался играть на ваших танках они дерьмовые

    • @andromeda4047
      @andromeda4047 3 года назад

      I tried to play on your tanks, they're shitty. Hello from Russia

    • @andromeda4047
      @andromeda4047 3 года назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/VCY2cAQ-A9I/видео.html

    • @majk5995
      @majk5995 3 года назад +1

      @@andromeda4047 you know War Thunder was made by Russians right?

    • @Rguhbuh
      @Rguhbuh 2 года назад

      @@majk5995 so?

  • @Market-Motivation
    @Market-Motivation 3 года назад +19

    M1 Abrams: We need backup!
    (M1A2 has joined the chat)

  • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
    @imnotusingmyrealname4566 5 лет назад +78

    M1A2 is coming I guess.

    • @swt_purged132
      @swt_purged132 5 лет назад +5

      It better

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 5 лет назад +4

      @@swt_purged132 Only the Chally 2 and Leo 2A5 have been confirmed up until now right?

    • @swt_purged132
      @swt_purged132 5 лет назад +4

      @@imnotusingmyrealname4566 i rly hope they add the M1A2 or atleast the M1A1 mod with the 120 . But idk they may not

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 5 лет назад +2

      @@swt_purged132 I don't know how great the 105 is but they should add the M1A1 because the Leo 2A5 seems pretty powerful. Then there's also the T-90A from the April fool's joke which will come 100%. I'm just waiting for the Rh-120 L/55 on the 2A6 and 2A7.

    • @swt_purged132
      @swt_purged132 5 лет назад +2

      @@imnotusingmyrealname4566 the 105 is decient right now but if they add the M1A1 or the M1A2 they need to give it a 120.

  • @almaandreucci6746
    @almaandreucci6746 5 лет назад +186

    If the abrams is worse than the T80B why is it that its repair cost is 17k sl compared to 5k sl of the T80B???

    • @almaandreucci6746
      @almaandreucci6746 5 лет назад +68

      @IS 2 mod.1944 the rep costs in the game aren t based on historical data but supposed gameplay balance

    • @fsxlover2maumauthelink5
      @fsxlover2maumauthelink5 5 лет назад +16

      Gaijin still thinks its 1.77 when the abrams clubbed everything.

    • @PAUL-ESNEED
      @PAUL-ESNEED 5 лет назад +14

      It's Gaijin lmao.
      I'd take the T-80B over the Abrams any day, the only good thing about US 10.0 is the AH1Z.

    • @Loki1701e
      @Loki1701e 5 лет назад +21

      If it iwas historical the t eries would be pluaged with engine problems, ammo problems, armour quality problems(ie the armour is not the best quality). But it is supposed to be balance. Supposedly, to all the whiners(slavs and wheabos) the abrams is "op" so it is got the high repair cost, while every other thanks is cheap. If t80 is better than abrams then why is abrams 10 times more expensive. And abrams irl with m833 would bash t80.

    • @Huskycomicowner
      @Huskycomicowner 5 лет назад +11

      Russian bias.

  • @HEATSEEKR
    @HEATSEEKR 5 лет назад +188

    If it's worse than the T-80, then why does it cost so much

    • @flash98449
      @flash98449 5 лет назад +79

      Thats how capitalism works

    • @provision9495
      @provision9495 5 лет назад +8

      Actually no, uranium was not in the Abrams chassis until the m1a1 HA, watch the Scottish koala

    • @voltagedrop5899
      @voltagedrop5899 4 года назад +22

      +
      HEATSEEKER3227 because they don't want you to research it since you'll realize how laughably underpowered it is compared to its real-life counterparts that you'll realize russian bias was a thing all along.

    • @maxim6088
      @maxim6088 4 года назад +7

      @@voltagedrop5899 well, not true the m1 variant of the Abrams is not that good irl, and the t80 is as good or better irl

    • @cursedcliff7562
      @cursedcliff7562 4 года назад +13

      @@voltagedrop5899 yeah sure russian bias...
      Sure there is buddy

  • @xXMaverick56Xx
    @xXMaverick56Xx 5 лет назад +42

    You forgot to mention that the repair cost of the M1 Abrams is x2/x3 higher than the Russian one...bias?

    • @arkaiko5401
      @arkaiko5401 5 лет назад +9

      Bias, or is a very expensive tank in real life??? Soviet/russian are the best in cost/quality

    • @xXMaverick56Xx
      @xXMaverick56Xx 5 лет назад +1

      Sordo Mudo the game does not keep into account real costs of production but somehow some weird stats that inefficiently reflect the effectiveness of a vehicle

    • @maxim6088
      @maxim6088 4 года назад +3

      Not bias... You're just a twat m8, the Abrams m1 was very expensive (and trash compared to the new Abrams varients which most people think of when they hear Abrams), the t80 is cheap, and essentially the best price/quality mbt ever built

    • @Storlans
      @Storlans 4 года назад +1

      @@maxim6088 underperforming 105mm ammo and overperforming ufp tells you something different...... The m1 does not need new ammo the game just needs to be fixed the 105 should be able to pen the T-72 and the T-64 ingame.

    • @deltacharlieromeo8252
      @deltacharlieromeo8252 3 года назад

      But who created War Thunder 😂

  • @sirilluminarthevaliant2895
    @sirilluminarthevaliant2895 5 лет назад +48

    Abrams : hey t-72
    T-72 : yes
    Abrams: -*dreamily* remember the good ole days. The gulf war
    T-72: *flashback to screams of terror and Abrams tanks rolling unharmed right past a line of destroyed t-72s as he hid in a shed*
    T-72: *shudders* y-yeah whatever you say

    • @command_unit7792
      @command_unit7792 5 лет назад +10

      Abrams tanks are burning in yemen while you have multiple videos of T72's surviving heavy atgm shoots easily!

    • @sirilluminarthevaliant2895
      @sirilluminarthevaliant2895 5 лет назад +10

      Command_Unit That was the result of very poor use.

    • @command_unit7792
      @command_unit7792 5 лет назад +8

      @@sirilluminarthevaliant2895 The Abrams where used by the saudis they have a bigger military budget then Russia against rebles...While the T72s in Iraq where used by mostly somewhat capable crews against the US army with clear air superiority...

    • @Weltenbastler2000
      @Weltenbastler2000 5 лет назад +3

      @@sirilluminarthevaliant2895 same story with the Iraqi M1s or T72s.
      These comparisons are useless in reality and can be only used in game. Anything else is nonsense. As long as you are not a country buying tanks but these decisions are mostly made in a political context anyways. I don't think Iraq replaces its M1s because of their performance but due to a bad US Government.

    • @sirilluminarthevaliant2895
      @sirilluminarthevaliant2895 5 лет назад +6

      Max B. Those t-72s couldn’t kill a single one. The best troops in one of the most powerful armies at the time. That’s pretty solid proof. The saudis sending out an unsupported tank then leaving it in the open is pure idiocy

  • @grom884
    @grom884 5 лет назад +54

    2:02 too easy, try not to remove all the ammo.

    • @F_lynx
      @F_lynx 5 лет назад +9

      if it had ammo the lowerplate show would have 1 shotted it

    • @TheAlexn2
      @TheAlexn2 5 лет назад +13

      @@F_lynx its like in game u have ammo so they compare a tank without ammo vs a M1 loaded full of ammo what is this unfair comparisoin

  • @siem3113
    @siem3113 5 лет назад +55

    You said the M1 Abrams has an Autoloader, this is incorrect, Russian tanks use them tho

  • @Real_Claudy_Focan
    @Real_Claudy_Focan 5 лет назад +18

    1:05 Calling T-72 a heavy tank
    2:00 shooting at an empty T-72 to prove its strength and durabilty
    5:00 Abrams autoloader

    • @bourbon2605
      @bourbon2605 5 лет назад +1

      Suprised they didn't show the weak spot for spot for the abrams

  • @sethl6626
    @sethl6626 5 лет назад +101

    M1A1 and M1A1HA are added into the game:
    Russians: *dear Neptune*

    • @Graczent.D
      @Graczent.D 5 лет назад +22

      *T-80U Joins the Game*

    • @Citizen_Snips1
      @Citizen_Snips1 5 лет назад +16

      @@Graczent.D *M829 Depleted Uranium Sabot designed to counter Konkat-5 has joined the match*

    • @elroynathanael6535
      @elroynathanael6535 5 лет назад +18

      T-90A Joined

    • @Citizen_Snips1
      @Citizen_Snips1 5 лет назад +14

      @@elroynathanael6535 *M1A2 SEPv4 has entered the arena*

    • @sethl6626
      @sethl6626 5 лет назад +11

      Citizen Snips *God has left the room* 😂😂😂

  • @NZobservatory
    @NZobservatory 4 года назад +4

    "We only hit the transmission and the driver." - Bruce Grant
    "Comrade, a word if you please..." - T-72A driver

  • @rn-zu5ld
    @rn-zu5ld 5 лет назад +157

    Now do roblox vs Minecraft

    • @henriquepedrazzi9008
      @henriquepedrazzi9008 5 лет назад +28

      two immortal legends shall not confront eachother, it will only bring armagedom

    • @rn-zu5ld
      @rn-zu5ld 5 лет назад +6

      @@henriquepedrazzi9008 true

    • @mcchickenbaptistchurch.org2
      @mcchickenbaptistchurch.org2 5 лет назад +12

      Boi this war already happened and it just resulted with bolth games losing more then half they'rr players bruh wdym

    • @rn-zu5ld
      @rn-zu5ld 4 года назад

      @@mcchickenbaptistchurch.org2 I did it as a joke

  • @madtatrfart1437
    @madtatrfart1437 5 лет назад +33

    They called them heavies when they’re classified as mediums in the game

    • @mr.vuchuchel3619
      @mr.vuchuchel3619 3 года назад +2

      Because they are heavy as heavy tanks but arent heavy tanks

    • @M4A1BestGirl
      @M4A1BestGirl 3 года назад +3

      I think it's because of the Abrams' speed

  • @dennysusanto5673
    @dennysusanto5673 5 лет назад +47

    Mig-19 vs super sabre please

    • @polaskatyu9368
      @polaskatyu9368 5 лет назад +1

      Denny Susanto which mig19, Germany is getting the S variant now )))))

    • @user-il1by9rv2o
      @user-il1by9rv2o 5 лет назад +1

      @@polaskatyu9368 Not any Germany, East Germany )))

    • @polaskatyu9368
      @polaskatyu9368 5 лет назад

      Лука Живановић ))))))

  • @x7shadow429
    @x7shadow429 4 года назад +5

    5:02 Don’t talk to me or my son again
    T-72 on the right

  • @Alpakinator
    @Alpakinator 5 лет назад +27

    T72 has been shot with empty ammo racks. With them it woud immediately die when hit in LFP.

  • @thelegodude2595
    @thelegodude2595 5 лет назад +4

    So how about trying the weapons test with the M833 round, because the m774 was never actually used. Also the m1a1 variant absolutely destroyed the t72s in the gulf war. And the Abrams has no auto loader. Thanks for making a great game Gaijan!

    • @ronaldthompson4989
      @ronaldthompson4989 Год назад

      Didnt help those were export variant T-72s without armor inserts or fire control packages, loaded with mild steel training rounds instead of tungsten APFSDS in order to save money

  • @Henry-uq1hl
    @Henry-uq1hl 5 лет назад +57

    How about T-54 (1951) VS M60?

    • @swt_purged132
      @swt_purged132 5 лет назад +5

      M60 will win . The M60 is a faster tank. Armour t54 probably win but speed gun and stuff M60

    • @Henry-uq1hl
      @Henry-uq1hl 5 лет назад +1

      @@swt_purged132 Not really.

    • @nekilik4352
      @nekilik4352 5 лет назад +1

      @@Henry-uq1hl roki vulović?

    • @swt_purged132
      @swt_purged132 5 лет назад +1

      I was right. I checked it on the stats here are the things T54 is better on (Armour "Highway speed" and weight and hp) ( m60- Speed offroad better pen better reload vetter gun depression ) like said T54 would win on some things but M60 probably win as far as gun and stuff

    • @Henry-uq1hl
      @Henry-uq1hl 5 лет назад +3

      @@swt_purged132 You forgot that T-54 has Shells with HE filler that can easily one shot anything it faces.

  • @Shank039
    @Shank039 5 лет назад +14

    Abrams doesnt have an autoloader.

  • @mikolajkowalski1220
    @mikolajkowalski1220 5 лет назад +7

    I want you to do a match up with mouse and the IS-7.

  • @darthsnader8911
    @darthsnader8911 5 лет назад +6

    The Abrams repair cost makes it worse than the T-72A

    • @Ccofi123
      @Ccofi123 5 лет назад +1

      T72 is more enjoyable becouse it's cheaper

    • @darthsnader8911
      @darthsnader8911 5 лет назад

      @@Ccofi123 Exactly

  • @kevlarburrito6693
    @kevlarburrito6693 5 лет назад +74

    Hold up...the Abrams does not have an autoloader....also several hundred burnt up T-72's in the Iraqi desert would beg to differ with these "findings"....

    • @nuckerball1259
      @nuckerball1259 5 лет назад +19

      This is the pre production abrams. The gulf war abrams were mostly m1a1 and up.

    • @yrkjrk2972
      @yrkjrk2972 5 лет назад +3

      @@emperorjorge5596 The Republic Guard was a feared armed force until it was dismantled in 3 weeks

    • @maxim6088
      @maxim6088 4 года назад +11

      Pls, could you first fact check yourself before you comment? The m1 was not in the Iraqi wars, the t72's there where not even remotely comparable to new Russian T80's, plus the people using them where not as good at using them as the Russians.

    • @kevlarburrito6693
      @kevlarburrito6693 4 года назад +3

      Maxim ...what are you talking about? The Abrams was in both Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. I can personally attest to it being there during OIF as I served IN Iraq for 3 years.

    • @maxim6088
      @maxim6088 4 года назад +3

      @@kevlarburrito6693 I thought that the m1a2 was used in the 2003-2010iraq war

  • @MrAlpal
    @MrAlpal 5 лет назад +6

    1:54 the transmission is in the rear behind the engine, a lower plate shot almost always kills in one shot.
    5:08 already been said, but the Abrams has no autoloader.
    do you guys even play your game?

    • @rn-zu5ld
      @rn-zu5ld 4 года назад +1

      Read the pinned comment

  • @Sebastian-yl7nq
    @Sebastian-yl7nq 5 лет назад +15

    T-72 wins, because you actually earn Silver Lions with it ;)

    • @Henry-uq1hl
      @Henry-uq1hl 5 лет назад

      If you aren't using the 3BM15. You get ~1000 Silver Lions for killing other MBT,and the shell costs 900. Not to mention you aren't always gonna kill everything with one shot. It is easier to earn SL with T-72A than with M1 Abrams,but it's still not a very good money maker.

  • @raizencore
    @raizencore 3 года назад +17

    The M1 Abrams should be put on 9.7, it's a good MBT but the competition it faces is so much stronger that it's unfair.

    • @carkawalakhatulistiwa
      @carkawalakhatulistiwa Год назад +2

      M1 is 1980 is vs t80 not t72

    • @ronaldthompson4989
      @ronaldthompson4989 Год назад +3

      Comparing the incoming M1 clone to the T-72AV TURMS is a head scratcher, with the russian prem having better ammo, better sights, better armor, and only slightly worse mobility than the new american prem, but being a LOWER br

  • @oliverhobbs2231
    @oliverhobbs2231 5 лет назад +26

    Bob simple tank when? .-.

    • @rn-zu5ld
      @rn-zu5ld 5 лет назад +4

      It would be too op and be at BR 900000000000000000.786889

    • @statesecurityserviceoflith4783
      @statesecurityserviceoflith4783 5 лет назад +3

      @@oliverhobbs2231 you crazy bob could destroy every tank in game one shot it needs to be in 99999999999999999999999.9br even in that br it would be to op

    • @tigersympathiser2265
      @tigersympathiser2265 5 лет назад +2

      Those machineguns have too much pen, probably couldn't be put in game.

  • @mr.abrams9885
    @mr.abrams9885 5 лет назад +209

    You all know very well that I'm better

  • @bullreeves1109
    @bullreeves1109 5 лет назад +2

    So... the 10.0 Abrams is “Equal” to the 9.7 T-72, and is completely inferior to the 10.0 T-80... why is it 10.0 and cost 3 times more then every other rank again?

  • @slouchygames1923
    @slouchygames1923 3 года назад +1

    This should be a rematch at some point

  • @isabelle2670
    @isabelle2670 5 лет назад +8

    There's not a SINGLE comparisson video in which there's not a russian vehicle

    • @deltacharlieromeo8252
      @deltacharlieromeo8252 3 года назад +1

      Because Russia is Russia. With every military hardware the West makes, the Russians have a counter. Sometimes even better.

    • @possum456
      @possum456 3 года назад

      @@deltacharlieromeo8252 In this scenario the Abrams should of easily defeated the T-72

    • @zeffy._440
      @zeffy._440 2 года назад

      @@possum456 not really

  • @sincereeastman6972
    @sincereeastman6972 5 лет назад +33

    Leopard 2A4 vs Type 90 next?

    • @Asgar1205
      @Asgar1205 5 лет назад +13

      type 90 wins, same tank with smaller cross section, better ammo and higher RoF ... oh and it's transmission isn't artificially fucked

    • @sincereeastman6972
      @sincereeastman6972 5 лет назад +2

      @@Asgar1205 haha yeah, just wanted to see Werhaboos whine in the comment section XD

    • @Asgar1205
      @Asgar1205 5 лет назад +9

      Not sure why legitimate complaints about a vehicle are whining, but okay

    • @marcelojoelpaolin5683
      @marcelojoelpaolin5683 5 лет назад +4

      @@Asgar1205 its canadian u expect something good from them ?

    • @AnnatarCarvour
      @AnnatarCarvour 5 лет назад +1

      Better survivability in game in the 2A4 over the 90 all day

  • @TNTExplodesLOL
    @TNTExplodesLOL 5 лет назад

    Very nice video as usual!

  • @crnorizechrabar4879
    @crnorizechrabar4879 5 лет назад +2

    I cannot wait for the M1A2 Abrams, and certainly for the t-90 and the T-14 Armata, they must be added! I know you will do that Gaijin.

  • @boneless_.
    @boneless_. 5 лет назад +4

    How about this? Panzer III B vs. T-26.

  • @e500coupe
    @e500coupe 5 лет назад +7

    Give the m833 or m900 and the abrams will rekt those two tank

  • @Berserker3062
    @Berserker3062 5 лет назад +2

    I'm glad you admit the 105 equipped M1 and MiP are not worthy of 10.0 BR. A few other US tanks are higher BR than they should be. M60 series for example.

  • @drezworthy
    @drezworthy 5 лет назад +1

    When doing penetration comparisons you should do from a variety of ranges instead of just close range. Then you can also talk about optics and trajectories etc.

  • @TheRedMartian
    @TheRedMartian 5 лет назад +7

    Lmao. LFP is an instant kill, if you actually put ammo in the turret. And why not also put them against the M1IP??

  • @nattly6340
    @nattly6340 5 лет назад +5

    One interesting comparison could be all the very fast light tanks. Eg.. ru 251 Vs amx 13

  • @orbitalpotato9940
    @orbitalpotato9940 4 года назад

    That shell casing ejection animation, i didnt know that existed
    well done Gaijin...

  • @SuperMiiBrother
    @SuperMiiBrother 5 лет назад +2

    2:14 No! I don't want to get shot at!

  • @mr.z2269
    @mr.z2269 5 лет назад +6

    Can you make a video on leopard 2a4 vs m1 abrams

  • @justanander
    @justanander 5 лет назад +17

    I want email changing

  • @shuffler1577
    @shuffler1577 3 года назад +2

    A T80 can destroy the abrams by sneezing in its general direction yet they’re in the same BR

  • @cobalt2361
    @cobalt2361 5 лет назад +2

    1:54 How do you hit the transmission if it's all the way in the back of the tank, behind the ammo and the engine.

  • @PAUL-ESNEED
    @PAUL-ESNEED 5 лет назад +6

    WHY IS THE REPAIR COST 15K FOR AN INFERIOR VEHICLE WHILE THE RUSSIAN COUNTERPARTS ARE ALL AT AROUND 3K REEEEEEEEEEEEE

    • @maxim6088
      @maxim6088 4 года назад

      It's expensive irl, and in game it is as good or sometimes better then the t80

  • @OmarSlloum
    @OmarSlloum 5 лет назад +21

    If we had bigger maps the T-72 would be a much better adversary to the Abroomz than it is now. I swear to god every time I play sim battles and get a map like Italy I just want to play another game, but there ISN'T another game I can play that is realistic like War Thunder, so I'm stuck playing these call of duty maps in my modern mbt, which needs to pay 900 sl for each shot just to penetrate the tank it will face the most!

    • @XpunisherX8152
      @XpunisherX8152 5 лет назад +4

      Seriously. All i want is Italy and Vietnam to be reworked or removed and i really want balanced long range engagements

    • @OmarSlloum
      @OmarSlloum 5 лет назад +4

      @@XpunisherX8152 people should be able to choose which maps they want to play, that's the one thing from CoD that War Thunder SHOULD copy! Also we need maps that allow you to shoot for more than 1.5km. Maybe something like 2.5 to 4 km would make the game much more enjoyable for top tier.

    • @XpunisherX8152
      @XpunisherX8152 5 лет назад

      @@OmarSlloum im all for the 2nd part of that reply. But if we have a voting system , then ppl will vote for the most favorable map and always leave out the least popular maps. It has to come down to the lesser of two evil maps

    • @omnipotank
      @omnipotank 5 лет назад +1

      If we had bigger maps, the challenger would actually be worth playing and practically invulnerable hull down from range. (If HE nukes were modeled correctly) With the upcoming challenger 2 and more modern MBTs, they better add huge maps.

    • @Szpareq
      @Szpareq 5 лет назад

      Long range engagements are very unlikely. I think the game stops showing tanks after 1km, 2 if another tank in your team is within 1km (I'm not sure though).

  • @inimitz6421
    @inimitz6421 5 лет назад +2

    See, if the fuel line in the T-80 was modeled in, that would level the playing field significantly- especially as it was in the turret ring.

  • @fsxlover2maumauthelink5
    @fsxlover2maumauthelink5 5 лет назад +1

    Abrams was able to go through the UFP before the retarded ammo changes

  • @joeblowe3180
    @joeblowe3180 Месяц назад +8

    Russian bias: The game

  • @legogenius1667
    @legogenius1667 5 лет назад +9

    So you literally admit that the T-72 is equal and the T-80 is blatantly better, and you refuse to balance them?? WHY? Why can't you just raise the Abrams to 11.0 or 12.0, buff it to historical standards (DP shells, realistic armor values, and so on) and go from there?

    • @BEAR-lw6mh
      @BEAR-lw6mh 5 лет назад +4

      If the T-80 were blatantly better than the Abrams in the game and the T-72A were equal then the Soviets wouldn’t be having so much trouble winning at top tier

  • @MythWarpathIX
    @MythWarpathIX 5 лет назад +3

    The T-72A has the same mobility like my Grandma.

    • @bourbon2605
      @bourbon2605 5 лет назад +1

      And has the same enough of your grandmas firepower too make you an obese child in under a week

  • @gigi64tpyes
    @gigi64tpyes 5 лет назад +1

    can you fix the Abrams round I'm confused on why the "better" round has less pen? explain thank you

  • @henriquepedrazzi9008
    @henriquepedrazzi9008 5 лет назад +5

    Or the heavy turtles like the tortoise, t28, jagdtiger, etc

    • @Asgar1205
      @Asgar1205 5 лет назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/Bf1YWYfD_qk/видео.html

  • @MiguelCastro-ow5ho
    @MiguelCastro-ow5ho 5 лет назад +3

    So it's a combative draw. Two minutes later, silver for the Abrams and bronze for the T-72!

  • @legomanyt3524
    @legomanyt3524 3 года назад +1

    You should do a updated version like the M1A2 vs T90A

  • @NYCSputnik
    @NYCSputnik 5 лет назад +1

    Side shots are much more common that frontal!

  • @Sturmv0gel
    @Sturmv0gel 5 лет назад +4

    Please do a T-62 vs. Leopard A1A1 Attempt no.5 or Leopard 2A4 vs. Abrams or Type 90 or some tank else

  • @mathiasenevoldsen3583
    @mathiasenevoldsen3583 5 лет назад +13

    Why arent you using the IPM1?

    • @KICKASSoBASSIST
      @KICKASSoBASSIST 5 лет назад +3

      SuperSovsen because we don’t complain as much as the others do lol. Jokes aside the IP would only add 20mm extra in kinetic protection so it’s a tad irrelevant

    • @mathiasenevoldsen3583
      @mathiasenevoldsen3583 5 лет назад +2

      @@KICKASSoBASSIST Its something

    • @mathiasenevoldsen3583
      @mathiasenevoldsen3583 5 лет назад +2

      @@KICKASSoBASSIST Wait what, Theyve made me research and buy anotehr tank, for 20 mm protection? And I thought Rep cost was bad

    • @KICKASSoBASSIST
      @KICKASSoBASSIST 5 лет назад +2

      SuperSovsen chemical protection is 200mm more but yea it doesn’t stack much for kinetic. So yea your grinding out another Abrams for overall minimal benefits

    • @JamesVDBosch
      @JamesVDBosch 5 лет назад +1

      @@KICKASSoBASSIST
      Extra turret armour cuts about 400m fromt he distance at which 3BM-22 can pen it as well as making it entirely DM23 proof.
      No, it's not irrelevant.

  • @versatile_yt4838
    @versatile_yt4838 5 лет назад +1

    The Abrams may have less Armour but it is survivabillity that matters not Armour.

    • @andreypolyakov1593
      @andreypolyakov1593 5 лет назад

      Versatile_YT actually , armor is ( for me ) à part of survivability : it’s one thing to get your mega ultra over OP armor pierced by APFSDS and get little to no damage , it’s another to get your paper armor pierced by a simple HE round ! Survivability is good on a long period , but if your tank can’t stand one hit , then you’re pretty much fucked

  • @bluefoxy6478
    @bluefoxy6478 5 лет назад +2

    Hey Gijan! I found 2 things that isnt realistic about the Abrams! The spot between the turret and hull is way to big, IRL a shell from any modern mbt wont be able to get in between cause the gap is too small, and you miscalculated it and made it too big, furthermore, you didn't use the more uparmored Abrams which is unfair cause your useing a newer tank, verses the exact same vehicle as last time, also the lower plate of the up armored one even though its the exact same as the old one, its somehow weaker!

  • @wangxrtom
    @wangxrtom 5 лет назад +9

    Still no comparison about the survivability of the tanks when a shell did manage penetrate the armor.
    The Abrams shines in this category as it often takes more than 2 shots to kill it, while the stronk turret ejection system on the T-80 means any shot that penetrates the armor will most likely result in a big boom. Considering this the Abrams is actually on-par with the T-80 or arguably better than the T-80 since it is much more forgiving and gives you a better chance to retreat and reengage at another angle even if you got hit(let's face it lol, no matter how good you are, you are going to get hit anyways)

    • @sexyitalian891
      @sexyitalian891 5 лет назад

      Might be more forgiving but the T80B on the other hand has an absolute beast of a gun, and good armor. Your talking about a good amount of survivability and a minor increase in mobility, compared to much more firepower and armor on the T80. The T80 is the superior tank imo. It takes me half a second to aim for that gun breach or turret ring and completely disable its ability to fire back. Abrams can't do the same to the T80 as quickly.

    • @s0me1up
      @s0me1up 5 лет назад +1

      i have given up to argue about this aspect of the gameplay long ago.
      it seems only people with above average IQ actually realise the importance of survivability. everyone else keeps ignoring it since it's not even a visible stat.
      M1 is so much more forgiving and allows a player to stay in battle longer, thereby giving more chances to inflict damage and have an impact on the battle.
      it's like the old argument between t-34-76 and pz.4 or t-34-85 and panther. although the t-34s may have a stronger post-penetration effect, the german counterparts can simply outlive them and oneshot the russians in return.
      the current damage model needs to be reworked in total. most vehicles in game survive way too much.

    • @andreypolyakov1593
      @andreypolyakov1593 5 лет назад

      s0me1up actually survivability is important , but the t80 can cripple the abrams of almost everyone in one good shot ! Survivability is good on a long period , but if you can’t stay alive in 1 on 1 fights , then it’s pretty much useless as you can’t fight back if half of your tank is torn apart in one hit ! One last thing : survivability or not , ATGM’s aren’t merciful

    • @s0me1up
      @s0me1up 5 лет назад

      @@andreypolyakov1593 simple scenario: an enemy sneaks up on you and shoots you in the side. if you are in a t80, you die 99.9% of the time. if you are in an abrams, you lose a crewman and a few modules, pop smoke and drive away into safety.
      nothing that you said discredited my argument. abrams (and all the other non-russian modern MBTs) is simply very forgiving and comfortable to play. in a t80 (t72, t64) you need much more luck and much more skill.
      even if we imagine a fair stand off where both tanks notice each other at the same time, the t80 needs 2-3 accurate hits. this is a waste of time. the abrams needs only 1 center mass hit on a t80.
      the entire high tier rank for the russians is screwed over. they get slower, less comfortable, fragile tanks that require luck and skill. this started with the introduction of MBT-70 vs t-64 and nothing has changed so far.
      btw no need for a discussion, i played the game long enough to make up my mind and nothing you say could change my opinion, because i saw with my own eyes what is happening in the game and the russians are at a severe disadvantage.

  • @bishop51807
    @bishop51807 5 лет назад +6

    Still waiting on Gaijin to add the M833 and M900 rounds to the Abrams otherwise I call Russian bias.

    • @GOD719
      @GOD719 5 лет назад +1

      That would justify the cost. If not. It needs to be dropped lower than the A4 and type 90

  • @TC-yv3ud
    @TC-yv3ud 2 года назад +1

    Lfp: *exists*
    Damage is far from critical
    Meanwhile the turret: hello im on the moon

  • @PropperNaughtyGeezer
    @PropperNaughtyGeezer 4 года назад

    In this game I ve been ever killed by the first hit from nowhere. I never see my enemy as near.

  • @dopplerapples7307
    @dopplerapples7307 3 месяца назад +7

    Well as of now its been confirmed a Abrahams tank got destroyed by a t72 in Ukraine.

  • @AnnatarCarvour
    @AnnatarCarvour 5 лет назад +4

    After you nerfed the.m774 shell even more..either way still love the game..but used to be able to one shot the T-80 or 72 with it through the ufp

    • @ronaldthompson4989
      @ronaldthompson4989 Год назад +1

      Use mean first gen DU used to have the same incendiary party trick as later gens?

    • @AnnatarCarvour
      @AnnatarCarvour Год назад

      @@ronaldthompson4989 yep
      I don't even play anymore not sure if they shut down my account
      Stopped in 2021 sometime..had top tier in most everything

    • @ronaldthompson4989
      @ronaldthompson4989 Год назад

      @@AnnatarCarvour oh, you missed out on the M1A2 SEP. America now has the armor and firepower to hang with the Russians

  • @michaprolejko286
    @michaprolejko286 5 лет назад +1

    Everything cool why did you compared m1 abrams and not the m1 IP version as you added t80bv to competition ?

  • @Huy-G-Le
    @Huy-G-Le 3 месяца назад

    Consider the Soviet T-70 which is a simplified and slightly upgrade version of the T-62 tanks, which is the counterpart to the M60 American Patton, This is more than what I had expect out of their performance.

  • @darkfunewolfcoop6768
    @darkfunewolfcoop6768 5 лет назад +5

    Ok so now there's no more subtitle .... Nicee

  • @whoknows475
    @whoknows475 5 лет назад +13

    Plz do a Flakpanzer gepard vs the otomatic

    • @snonsig2688
      @snonsig2688 5 лет назад

      Oto wins

    • @polaskatyu9368
      @polaskatyu9368 5 лет назад +2

      snonsig nein, flakpanzer

    • @ethandearman3965
      @ethandearman3965 5 лет назад

      Unless the spaas are trying to kill each other the OTOMATIC is better

    • @ethandearman3965
      @ethandearman3965 5 лет назад

      @blue's hunter I don't think they added the version that had them. Anyway I have both and I have used the Gepard since it came out OTOMATIC with it's MOM shells is much better vs air that the Gepard and better for killing tanks. In a 1v1 of the Gepard and the OTOMATIC the Gepard wins because of the massive breach not that they would every really fight out side of a CB

    • @ethandearman3965
      @ethandearman3965 5 лет назад

      @blue's hunter if you don't play why are you here? We are talking about in game performance. The OTOMATIC was designed to replace SPAAs like the Gepard and was proven better and longer range. SAMs are irrelevant if anything defeats the point of the Gepard as well.

  • @fedesilv5235
    @fedesilv5235 5 лет назад

    When do you restore the number of bushes mod?
    More than one for each type.
    And the most important game modes ???

  • @captainconcernedsr.5360
    @captainconcernedsr.5360 5 лет назад

    My own mobility comparison videos demonstrated the traverse rates to be very much equal despite lacking neutral hull traverse on the T80B

  • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
    @imnotusingmyrealname4566 5 лет назад +6

    How much do I need to play to get the T-80B for example? With and without premium time, tanks and talismans.

  • @mcchickenbaptistchurch.org2
    @mcchickenbaptistchurch.org2 5 лет назад +6

    Ki 200 vs me 136

    • @tigersympathiser2265
      @tigersympathiser2265 5 лет назад

      They're the same except the 163* has better fuel capacity by about 2 minutes and two variants which both have better guns.

  • @Farmuhan
    @Farmuhan 5 лет назад +1

    is this the first bait title for War Thunder RUclips?

  • @Glitch_Online
    @Glitch_Online 5 лет назад

    Found this game thanks to streamer named Zarvox, love it. Found this channel just thru RUclips, love it. Please keep these coming. Just getting into Tier 2 tanks and can't wait to go higher.

  • @baunguyenba8736
    @baunguyenba8736 5 лет назад +4

    American m4 sherman vs japanese chi he

  • @marcu_wojac2237
    @marcu_wojac2237 5 лет назад +15

    Oh yeah, another nice video from my favorite video game

    • @AnnatarCarvour
      @AnnatarCarvour 5 лет назад

      Alot needs fixed, but it's my favorite game as well

  • @michaeliannucci8853
    @michaeliannucci8853 5 лет назад +1

    If they're saying the Abrams can't win a fight with a T-80, then give it the M833 or M900

    • @ashati3176
      @ashati3176 5 лет назад

      Noochmaster dont wanna make the russians cry.

    • @zeffy._440
      @zeffy._440 2 года назад

      won't make a difference it was a shell that used the 105mm gun I believe Russian armour should be strong enough to withstand the hit

  • @therd2127
    @therd2127 5 лет назад +1

    If only they didn't nerf the M774, the Abrams would've had a better chance.

  • @vincea1830
    @vincea1830 5 лет назад +10

    Uhm did you forget to mention its game over if at any point there's a side shot on a t80 where there's little chance of survival from a carousel cookoff while the abrams can usually take 2-3 shots from the side and live? Lol this bias runs deep

  • @zacharyslover9365
    @zacharyslover9365 5 лет назад +18

    I have an Idea! Abrams vs. Maus!!!

    • @marcbirchen9484
      @marcbirchen9484 5 лет назад +3

      Divini Fulminis Abrams wil win

    • @swt_purged132
      @swt_purged132 5 лет назад +2

      Abrams will mop the floor with the Maus

    • @lpflore
      @lpflore 5 лет назад

      I actually once killed an Abrams with my Maus. I also once bounced 20 shots in a 10.0 Game. Those Freeaboos needed a Heli to kill me

    • @swt_purged132
      @swt_purged132 5 лет назад

      @@lpflore i killed a Abrams in a T34-85 because GaGjin dosent know how to put realistic armour. But the abrams eould come out on top if they know where to shoot

    • @cadewoolley1827
      @cadewoolley1827 5 лет назад +1

      @@swt_purged132 but the maus is also missing an extra 200mm on the turret and another 100mm covering the hull.

  • @theScottishKoala
    @theScottishKoala 5 лет назад

    How about a heavy tank comparison? T32E1 and Conqueror Mk.2 vs IS-3 and IS-6?

  • @littleaxel7301
    @littleaxel7301 4 года назад

    Alright now the real battle M1A1 vs T72a

  • @alienbrain2743
    @alienbrain2743 5 лет назад +3

    mongolian t-80 tanker

  • @Nimori
    @Nimori 5 лет назад +13

    Lets seee
    A tank that never has been destroyed in combat VS a tank that has countlessly been destroyed in combat, AGAINST the tank that never got destroyed in combat.
    Brussian Rias

    • @elliottbaker4415
      @elliottbaker4415 5 лет назад +3

      I don't think you've seen how the Iraqi M1's fair

    • @rayhan_2k841
      @rayhan_2k841 5 лет назад +2

      M1 abrams have been destroyed in combat. M1a1 and a2

    • @Nimori
      @Nimori 5 лет назад +1

      Challenger2 Black night Link? Source?

    • @Nimori
      @Nimori 5 лет назад +1

      Forever Renamed Abrams has been hit by mines, tow missiles, rpg’s in the engine, and keep rolling.
      I’d like some sources please.

    • @Nimori
      @Nimori 5 лет назад

      Bleagle Not destroyed by combat.
      Notice all the burn marks and melted... everything. An RPG and or AGTM TOW’s can’t do that damage, not at that tempature.
      Clearly a demo. Furthermore paint reveals its not owned by the US military.
      M1 Abrams are for countries other than the US. Spaded immensely.
      M1A1 is for US
      M1A2 is for US
      Again, looks like a demo. Probably tracks got blown off or engine died and they couldnt haul it back due to it being in enemy territory.

  • @phased-arraych.9150
    @phased-arraych.9150 5 лет назад +1

    There’s a reason why we developed M900 shells you know.

  • @lucianaurelius2418
    @lucianaurelius2418 5 лет назад

    The Abrams doesn’t penetrate because you won’t give it the historically accurate ammunition