On my previous setup I needed to lift a 33 gallon trashcan into a position similar to yours. My solution was to build a cheap & cheerful lever (think seesaw), by placing the can on top of the low end I could use my knee or foot to press down on the high side and easily lift and hold the can until it was secured. It took more time to think it out than it did to build. I love your videos and look forward to each one.
Thanks for the review. I highly recommend this unit for a small one man shop. Made in the US which is rare for dust collectors. Some things to watch: 1. Do not overfill the collection drum. If you overfill the carryover into the HEPA filter will permanently reduce your airflow no matter how hard you try clean the filter. 2. Getting the drum properly aligned is difficult as Colin says. I added a small bracket midway between two of the legs helps to align when pulling up the first clamp on the side opposite the added bracket.
When reattaching the barrel, I slide a piece of 3/4” plywood on the floor underneath the barrel. It lifts the casters up off the floor so the barrel doesn’t roll around and gets the clips closer to the spot where they need to hook on. Makes it easy.
I picked one of these up a couple years ago from craigslist (poor guy was moving and had to sell off his woodshop), and absolutely love it for all of my tools (well, except the ones that are too small and work better with my festool + dust deputy). The previous owner tossed in a 240v Long Ranger switch and 2 remotes, which are an awesome addition that I highly recommend (both have 3m "command" velcro on them, one lives on the mini gorilla and the other is usually stuck to my table saw (which is the most awkward reach to the dust collector).
Does look like an awesome unit with quite a bit of volume of air it moves. Just out of my $$ range currently. The bag for the chips does look easier to change out so that would be nice. Thank you for sharing
Great overview. Seems nice for an all-in-one portable unit, but very pricy at almost $2000. It lacks some features like a canister crank to clean the inside of the filter and the canister & collection bins are much smaller than I'd like to see (half the size). I have a Grizzly G0944 and plan to add an Oneida Super Dust Deputy XL to a metal 30 gallon garbage can as my 2-stage. I needed 6" inlet and outlets as to not restrict the collector feed off my 6" main line (that then splits off into a pair of 4"). The entire setup will cost well under $2000, including all the SDR 35 piping, elbows/fittings and flex hoses.
Canister cranks destroy your filter media and decrease filter life. Any kind of contact with the filter media isn't advisable. The best way to clean your filter is with compressed air.
@@chuckhudson8159 Perhaps, if not properly used. Mine is adjusted to barely touch and I only have to use it one in a great while, as the DD collects 99% before it hits the filter.
I can but feel envy.... I think you should replace those clips with a single leverage handle, I believe Jer Schmidt has a very nice solution on his dust collector.
Highly recommend the Dust Sentry option so you know when the canister is full especially when hooked up to a planer otherwise you'll pack the filter solid with chips in no time which is a pain to clean out.
I've never had a problem with mini gorilla dust. I guess I should keep an eye out for those things in my shop. Just so long as they don't fling poo at me or ransack the workbench, I guess I can live with the mini gorillas.
12:45. You just said the single greatest thing in history. Vacuums should have a BAG. When you create a bigger mess emptying something and have an explosion of fine dust covering your entire body, that defeats the purpose of dust collection. The only reason that there are a 2 million "dust cyclone" videos on RUclips is because shop vacuums aren't shipped with bags. They should include at least 10 bags when you buy one, because the filter isn't designed to function without a bag. Vacuums being sold without a bag are actually not functional, and should have a class action lawsuit for trying to force consumers into constant filter replacements. I put a bag in my Rigid shop vacuum and the filter never even gets dirt on it, and you can suck up 15 pounds fine dust and sawdust, with no loss of suction, it transforms the usability.
I have the same set-up. Can you do an update and show how you have it hooked to different tools. I was told that it did not work well with smaller inlets - 2 1/2" ports of some small shop tools. How long of large inlet must run before you can go down to 2 1/2" ports.
Hi Colin, just stumbled over this video. I use a super max sander and a two stage dust collector. The dust on the second stage is blowing up out of the bag into the filter. How is this gorilla doing of separating the dust? Is your filter plugging or is the majority of if falling into the cyclone?
I do a ton of sawing, but the saw doesn't generate nearly as much dust as my planer so I'm sticking with my plain old dust collection system and plan ahead for lots of fun when I plane down a big stack of boards when I generate enough former boards to choke a herd of elephants.
Congrats Colin! Looks like a great system for your shop. Would you have gone for the larger system if your shop was spread out more/ larger with tools further apart?
Wow! I was wondering how much it was and figured someone would comment on the price. Thanks On the other hand how much are you willing to pay for good health? I have a lung condition caused by an autoimmune disease so good dust collection is very important.
I love my Dust Deputy. Can’t remember the last time I had to clean out my shop vac. But this unit appears to take less floor space than my combo unit. Looks like a nice unit. Imagine something can be rigged to deal with the canister issue.
@@MMMS75 absolutely wrong, this system provides hepa 583 cfm, your shop vac is much less than a third of that in comparison (approx. 160cfm). So no, you are mistaken. This unit also offers much larger hoses than a shop vac could ever accommodate
What I hate about the consumer dust collections systems is the size of the dust bin is so small. I have a Harbor Freight dust collector that I converted to a 2 stage cyclone with the Oneida super dust deputy. I have a 55 gallon drum on wheels under that sucker so I wont have to empty it as often. As far as the fiddling with the bin trying to line it up to fasten it, can you put a spacer between the wheels and the bottom of the bin to raise it up closer to the lid? It looks like you are having to pick the bin up a bit to get it lined up for it to latch. I thought making the bin a little taller, like only 1/2 clearance between the bin and the latching lid might help get it close enough to its latching position that when you engage the locking levers, (once the bin and lid are lined up) that when you push down on the levers, it will grab the bin and pick it up just enough to latch it.
This is exactly what I do. I slide a piece of 3/4” plywood underneath the barrel. It lifts the casters up off the floor so the barrel doesn’t roll around and gets the clips closer to the spot where they need to hook on. I’m going to repeat this as a separate comment for those who don’t read replies.
Because of the limitations on the amount of degree that could be collected before they needed to be emptied, I bought some plastic barrels with metal lids and snap rings to use as the base for my and a friend's Dust Deputy. The vacuum was mounted above the DD using two pipes over allthread that ran into the bottom of the shop vac on top, and down through the top of the collection bin. The vac draws on the DD via a pipe I inserted through a hole I made in the bottom of the vacuum bin. The pipe stops about 1" under the vacuum. I added handles, wheels and a REAL dust view port. It works great for shop cleaning, hand tools and so on. I used variations for my Super Dust Deputy too.
-Why don't factory shop vacuums have a cyclone canister as standard equipment? -The Milwaukee M18 cordless round canister vacuum has cyclone technology! I own 2 of them and wondered why the filter seems to last forever without losing suction, it's because the canister has a high speed vortex, you can see the dirt flinging at 50mph around the tank. -If a shop vacuum had a cyclone technology, they wouldn't be able to sell filters anymore, because the dust wouldn't reach the filter. -Home vacuums should be legally required to have a bag, and the should just include the bags with the purchase. Emptying a big canister full of pet fur that explodes in your face, is not a very sanitary or fun experience. -Who the F**K invented a "bagless" vacuum for home users? -Why do they still sell light bulbs, but the companies hate selling filter bags? -There is a conspiracy to stop people using bags in vacuums. -RUclips woodworking users complain about the filter being dirty, apparently they don't understand that you HAVE to use a bag. -A large cyclone chamber is acceptable to prevent the use of filter bags, but only if you're wearing full PPE when you empty the canister.
I think that's pretty poor design on Oneida's part. First, the lack of alignment aids between the barrel and he bottom of the cyclone flange. I think some downward extensions around the back perimeter of the lower cyclone flange would allow you to push the barrel against them to properly position it for clamping. The other thing is lack of a bag at the bottom of the filter allowing dust not caught by the cyclone to collect in the filter. That filter cleaning process seems as it would be a pain.
Check out my video on the Oneida Dust Sentry: ruclips.net/video/2sEo6NAVrLM/видео.html
On my previous setup I needed to lift a 33 gallon trashcan into a position similar to yours. My solution was to build a cheap & cheerful lever (think seesaw), by placing the can on top of the low end I could use my knee or foot to press down on the high side and easily lift and hold the can until it was secured. It took more time to think it out than it did to build. I love your videos and look forward to each one.
Thanks for the review. I highly recommend this unit for a small one man shop. Made in the US which is rare for dust collectors.
Some things to watch:
1. Do not overfill the collection drum. If you overfill the carryover into the HEPA filter will permanently reduce your airflow no matter how hard you try clean the filter.
2. Getting the drum properly aligned is difficult as Colin says. I added a small bracket midway between two of the legs helps to align when pulling up the first clamp on the side opposite the added bracket.
When reattaching the barrel, I slide a piece of 3/4” plywood on the floor underneath the barrel. It lifts the casters up off the floor so the barrel doesn’t roll around and gets the clips closer to the spot where they need to hook on. Makes it easy.
I picked one of these up a couple years ago from craigslist (poor guy was moving and had to sell off his woodshop), and absolutely love it for all of my tools (well, except the ones that are too small and work better with my festool + dust deputy). The previous owner tossed in a 240v Long Ranger switch and 2 remotes, which are an awesome addition that I highly recommend (both have 3m "command" velcro on them, one lives on the mini gorilla and the other is usually stuck to my table saw (which is the most awkward reach to the dust collector).
It looks like a very good system you've gotten. Best of luck with it in your shop. Hope you do a follow-up review after using it for a few months!
That looks like a great dust collector! If it was me I would get some small barrels and put close to the machines that collect the most dust.
Does look like an awesome unit with quite a bit of volume of air it moves. Just out of my $$ range currently. The bag for the chips does look easier to change out so that would be nice. Thank you for sharing
Great review and information. One day I will upgrade my system to this in my garage.
Looks great. Maybe you could fabricate some sort of lever/jack to lift the bucket into place with your knee.
Great overview. Seems nice for an all-in-one portable unit, but very pricy at almost $2000. It lacks some features like a canister crank to clean the inside of the filter and the canister & collection bins are much smaller than I'd like to see (half the size).
I have a Grizzly G0944 and plan to add an Oneida Super Dust Deputy XL to a metal 30 gallon garbage can as my 2-stage. I needed 6" inlet and outlets as to not restrict the collector feed off my 6" main line (that then splits off into a pair of 4"). The entire setup will cost well under $2000, including all the SDR 35 piping, elbows/fittings and flex hoses.
Canister cranks destroy your filter media and decrease filter life. Any kind of contact with the filter media isn't advisable. The best way to clean your filter is with compressed air.
@@chuckhudson8159 Perhaps, if not properly used. Mine is adjusted to barely touch and I only have to use it one in a great while, as the DD collects 99% before it hits the filter.
@@chuckhudson8159 Thats what Oneida told also me some time ago when I bought mine.
I can but feel envy.... I think you should replace those clips with a single leverage handle, I believe Jer Schmidt has a very nice solution on his dust collector.
Highly recommend the Dust Sentry option so you know when the canister is full especially when hooked up to a planer otherwise you'll pack the filter solid with chips in no time which is a pain to clean out.
How well does this work for you? How did you decide among the various versions of level monitors?
@@jaysimmons2319 Works great can't imagine not having it, you can set the strobe to come on at a level you'd like in the bin.
@@inspectr1949
Which version do you have?
@@jaysimmons2319 Infrared Dust Sentry Bin Fill Level Indicator.
I've never had a problem with mini gorilla dust. I guess I should keep an eye out for those things in my shop. Just so long as they don't fling poo at me or ransack the workbench, I guess I can live with the mini gorillas.
Going to stick with my Cyclone and HD bucket, but great video!
Thank you for sharing your review, nice machine stay safe happy and healthy from Henrico County Virginia
I have been looking at Oneida new "High Pressure" dust collector. I was hoping that is the one you reviewed.
12:45. You just said the single greatest thing in history. Vacuums should have a BAG. When you create a bigger mess emptying something and have an explosion of fine dust covering your entire body, that defeats the purpose of dust collection. The only reason that there are a 2 million "dust cyclone" videos on RUclips is because shop vacuums aren't shipped with bags. They should include at least 10 bags when you buy one, because the filter isn't designed to function without a bag. Vacuums being sold without a bag are actually not functional, and should have a class action lawsuit for trying to force consumers into constant filter replacements. I put a bag in my Rigid shop vacuum and the filter never even gets dirt on it, and you can suck up 15 pounds fine dust and sawdust, with no loss of suction, it transforms the usability.
Thanks, for sharing that, good for you!
I have the same set-up. Can you do an update and show how you have it hooked to different tools. I was told that it did not work well with smaller inlets - 2 1/2" ports of some small shop tools. How long of large inlet must run before you can go down to 2 1/2" ports.
I dont have a dust collector system - and have been wondering if this would work or if I should wait and save up more to get a SuperCell - thoughts?
Hi Colin, just stumbled over this video. I use a super max sander and a two stage dust collector. The dust on the second stage is blowing up out of the bag into the filter.
How is this gorilla doing of separating the dust? Is your filter plugging or is the majority of if falling into the cyclone?
We’ll done, practical review.
I do a ton of sawing, but the saw doesn't generate nearly as much dust as my planer so I'm sticking with my plain old dust collection system and plan ahead for lots of fun when I plane down a big stack of boards when I generate enough former boards to choke a herd of elephants.
Good to see Luke Skywalker is keeping himself busy.
Congrats Colin! Looks like a great system for your shop.
Would you have gone for the larger system if your shop was spread out more/ larger with tools further apart?
I wanted to know two things from this video. How quiet does it run and how well does it pick up?
Why didn’t you get the 25’ hose with it?
How did you buy it and get it to Canada I live in your area? Thanks
Thanks for the review! Enjoy!
not many of us can afford an $1,800 U.S. for dust collection; otherwise it's a great system.
Wow! I was wondering how much it was and figured someone would comment on the price. Thanks
On the other hand how much are you willing to pay for good health? I have a lung condition caused by an autoimmune disease so good dust collection is very important.
@@MMMS75 though I agree this system has much better performance than a shop vac (moves more air for bigger tools) and has a HEPA rated filter.
I love my Dust Deputy. Can’t remember the last time I had to clean out my shop vac. But this unit appears to take less floor space than my combo unit. Looks like a nice unit. Imagine something can be rigged to deal with the canister issue.
@@MMMS75 absolutely wrong, this system provides hepa 583 cfm, your shop vac is much less than a third of that in comparison (approx. 160cfm). So no, you are mistaken. This unit also offers much larger hoses than a shop vac could ever accommodate
If you can’t afford to keep safe, it’s not a hobby you can do… take up flying kites
Late to the game here, but was this a 110 or a 220 volt version?
Why dont you have a cantilever stick to lift bin under wich is removable ian mac woodturning
COLIN- ARE YOU ABLE TO BLOCK OR REPORT THE SCAMMER REPLYING TO ALL THE COMMENTS?
What I hate about the consumer dust collections systems is the size of the dust bin is so small. I have a Harbor Freight dust collector that I converted to a 2 stage cyclone with the Oneida super dust deputy. I have a 55 gallon drum on wheels under that sucker so I wont have to empty it as often.
As far as the fiddling with the bin trying to line it up to fasten it, can you put a spacer between the wheels and the bottom of the bin to raise it up closer to the lid? It looks like you are having to pick the bin up a bit to get it lined up for it to latch. I thought making the bin a little taller, like only 1/2 clearance between the bin and the latching lid might help get it close enough to its latching position that when you engage the locking levers, (once the bin and lid are lined up) that when you push down on the levers, it will grab the bin and pick it up just enough to latch it.
This is exactly what I do. I slide a piece of 3/4” plywood underneath the barrel. It lifts the casters up off the floor so the barrel doesn’t roll around and gets the clips closer to the spot where they need to hook on. I’m going to repeat this as a separate comment for those who don’t read replies.
Because of the limitations on the amount of degree that could be collected before they needed to be emptied, I bought some plastic barrels with metal lids and snap rings to use as the base for my and a friend's Dust Deputy.
The vacuum was mounted above the DD using two pipes over allthread that ran into the bottom of the shop vac on top, and down through the top of the collection bin. The vac draws on the DD via a pipe I inserted through a hole I made in the bottom of the vacuum bin. The pipe stops about 1" under the vacuum.
I added handles, wheels and a REAL dust view port. It works great for shop cleaning, hand tools and so on.
I used variations for my Super Dust Deputy too.
Very nice but way too expensive for me
-Why don't factory shop vacuums have a cyclone canister as standard equipment?
-The Milwaukee M18 cordless round canister vacuum has cyclone technology! I own 2 of them and wondered why the filter seems to last forever without losing suction, it's because the canister has a high speed vortex, you can see the dirt flinging at 50mph around the tank.
-If a shop vacuum had a cyclone technology, they wouldn't be able to sell filters anymore, because the dust wouldn't reach the filter.
-Home vacuums should be legally required to have a bag, and the should just include the bags with the purchase. Emptying a big canister full of pet fur that explodes in your face, is not a very sanitary or fun experience.
-Who the F**K invented a "bagless" vacuum for home users?
-Why do they still sell light bulbs, but the companies hate selling filter bags?
-There is a conspiracy to stop people using bags in vacuums.
-RUclips woodworking users complain about the filter being dirty, apparently they don't understand that you HAVE to use a bag.
-A large cyclone chamber is acceptable to prevent the use of filter bags, but only if you're wearing full PPE when you empty the canister.
I think that's pretty poor design on Oneida's part. First, the lack of alignment aids between the barrel and he bottom of the cyclone flange. I think some downward extensions around the back perimeter of the lower cyclone flange would allow you to push the barrel against them to properly position it for clamping. The other thing is lack of a bag at the bottom of the filter allowing dust not caught by the cyclone to collect in the filter. That filter cleaning process seems as it would be a pain.
But I'm low in fiber.
Well, I am sure it is just the bee's knees, but a $2,000 dust collection system is not targeted for me, nor, I suspect, many of your viewers.
Colin do you have Dutch ancestors? Your surname does suggest that…
I don't think cutting hole in gasket for blower bolts is a good idea.
You might have mentioned at the beginning that this was an $1800 unit.