My blackwilf mountain freight train has one job on our club layout. Run as an unscheduled extra and be a pain for operators to deal with. I totally enjoy doing that
Well done. Some very well spoken club members explained their system very well. Operations are a lot of fun. I hope you get to operate on more layouts and see all the different styles. From TT&TO to CTC, Switchlist, tab on car, car cards to JMRI computer driven car forwarding. Good luck at your next session and thank you for sharing.
@ 10:04... "... you don't get yelled at..." ... i had to chuckle a when he said that because i worked as a switchman for chicago and northwestern and i can tell for sure there was a LOT of yelling every now and then LOL... trainmaster yelling, yardmaster yelling, foreman yelling... even the dispatchers were yelling... everybody yelling lol
Thank you John for a really informative Video and this System of Woking certainly adds realism to a model Railway's Operations, great.Thank all the Lads at the Society.
Thanks, Ben. Just workin' it. I think a lot of people are intimidated by ops but it can be a whole lot of fun and it doesn't have to be overly complicated.
I love the idea, Miguel. This has been on the list for quite some time. It's a tricky topic, though, because signals vary quite a bit from railroad to railroad. I can tell you something about the way Union Pacific signals work in the western states I've visited, but the east coast railroads have some differences. The same goes for signals on model layouts. I'll get around to this program at some point but I have a lot to learn about the differences! Maybe there are some experts out there willing to provide some info? Anyone?
@@tsgmultimedia I understand signals are different between railroads like UP BNSF And NS but knowing what signals are saying will be helpfull while chasing trains
Thats good advice about OPS Sessions and Car cards but what about people like me who just a have a simple 4x8 N scale layout. What kind OPS is there for small layouts
@@tsgmultimedia my layout is a 4x8 double loop track with a small railyard and its DC powered. Maybe someday there could be a MR101 episode about OPS for small layouts
John, this was just FANTASTIC it was so good seeing just one side of the ins and outs of operations. I have always been a fan of operations but have yet participated in one. Is it at all possible to see a local run with pick ups and drops off. I know it’s asking a lot but this will just help the viewers see in more detail what else really happens. Also I believe the club also have a N scale layout. Do they do operations on the N scale layout as well. If you tell me that was the N scale layout you might just give me a heart attack because the level of detail is amazing and the sounds if the engines as well. I will wait to hear back from you. Peace be with you, and thank you so much for all you have done?
I have some plans to do a video like what you described in the future. That is, "what do railroads actually do?" and it will demonstrate in more detail the kind of job a local turn does.
Good video, but it doesn't actually show how the CC&WB system is used to manage the movement of cars. Can you please do another video showing the operation of a local freight, and showing how cars move according to their waybill instructions.
This sounds like it could be an interesting show idea. I can tell you from my experience running at CMRS that the easy jobs simply have cards handed to the operator by the yard master and those cards have destinations on them. In my case, I had some for an intermediate yard then picked more cars up at that yard and took them to the yard at the end of the line. It's pretty simple.
I agree. Liam Hart's comments just repeat what was said in the earlier video with Seth Neumann -- that's fine for making the video self-contained, but it doesn't give any information that wasn't already in the general ops video. Then the train shown, a manifest freight between two yards is a poor choice, because its only interaction with the CC&WB system is that the engineer is given a wad of cards, which he hands to the Sacramento yardmaster when he arrives there. To show the working of the system, you need to show either a yard job, starting from the point when an incoming train arrives, or a local freight setting off and picking up cars at industries along the line.
An LPS right brhind the 4 engines, 3 LPS's right infront of the caboose. 4 power for something that needs 2. Also a caboose on a modern train. God i love foamers.
Who says it's a load? If it's an empty LPG it's fine with only 2 spacers. In fact it's still fine with only one. In any case, it's not real world anyway! Their railroad, their rules!
@@chrisschanbacher9061 LPS stands for "Load Prone to Shift" sadly you don't learn this in youtube videos since its only part of CROR training. Anyways a load prone to shift is anything that is a load and can shift... So pipes, equipment on flats, lumber, etc. And cannot be marshaled beside any special dangerous, ERAP, or crew/passenger carrying car/piece of equipment. In Canada you only need 1 buffer car between any of these but in the US it requires 5.
My blackwilf mountain freight train has one job on our club layout. Run as an unscheduled extra and be a pain for operators to deal with. I totally enjoy doing that
Well done. Some very well spoken club members explained their system very well. Operations are a lot of fun. I hope you get to operate on more layouts and see all the different styles. From TT&TO to CTC, Switchlist, tab on car, car cards to JMRI computer driven car forwarding. Good luck at your next session and thank you for sharing.
Thanks for the operations video its good to know how it all works
@ 10:04... "... you don't get yelled at..." ... i had to chuckle a when he said that because i worked as a switchman for chicago and northwestern and i can tell for sure there was a LOT of yelling every now and then LOL... trainmaster yelling, yardmaster yelling, foreman yelling... even the dispatchers were yelling... everybody yelling lol
Thank you John for a really informative Video and this System of Woking certainly adds realism to a model Railway's Operations, great.Thank all the Lads at the Society.
thank you for detailed video operation
Great Info! Makes it Fun Thanks!
Now I know about cars operation Thanks John
Great video, I think the car cards system, is great especially once you get the hang of it. thanks for the video
Another great video John! Really clear and well explained. Sweet layout too!
Thanks, Ben. Just workin' it. I think a lot of people are intimidated by ops but it can be a whole lot of fun and it doesn't have to be overly complicated.
awesome layout ... great run & explanation of what was going on..thx for sharing.. vinny/cuz
It would be good to see how the car cards are changed when a car reaches an industry.
I got a good idea for MR101. Signals. But not just on how to install and use on a layout signals but also on what all the signal mean
I love the idea, Miguel. This has been on the list for quite some time. It's a tricky topic, though, because signals vary quite a bit from railroad to railroad. I can tell you something about the way Union Pacific signals work in the western states I've visited, but the east coast railroads have some differences. The same goes for signals on model layouts. I'll get around to this program at some point but I have a lot to learn about the differences! Maybe there are some experts out there willing to provide some info? Anyone?
@@tsgmultimedia I understand signals are different between railroads like UP BNSF And NS but knowing what signals are saying will be helpfull while chasing trains
Yes, knowing how to read signals can help a lot.
John, I'd be willing to help with signals if you wanted more information.
@@chrisschanbacher9061 That would be great. You're always welcome to forward info to me. You can find the email for that in my "about" section.
Cool and awesome
Thats good advice about OPS Sessions and Car cards but what about people like me who just a have a simple 4x8 N scale layout. What kind OPS is there for small layouts
Small layouts are almost always designed for switching. You could easily make up switch lists to instruct the operator where to place which equipment.
@@tsgmultimedia my layout is a 4x8 double loop track with a small railyard and its DC powered. Maybe someday there could be a MR101 episode about OPS for small layouts
John, this was just FANTASTIC it was so good seeing just one side of the ins and outs of operations. I have always been a fan of operations but have yet participated in one. Is it at all possible to see a local run with pick ups and drops off. I know it’s asking a lot but this will just help the viewers see in more detail what else really happens. Also I believe the club also have a N scale layout. Do they do operations on the N scale layout as well. If you tell me that was the N scale layout you might just give me a heart attack because the level of detail is amazing and the sounds if the engines as well. I will wait to hear back from you.
Peace be with you, and thank you so much for all you have done?
I have some plans to do a video like what you described in the future. That is, "what do railroads actually do?" and it will demonstrate in more detail the kind of job a local turn does.
How keep they the track clean? I'ts a very large layout with open Space!
Good video, but it doesn't actually show how the CC&WB system is used to manage the movement of cars. Can you please do another video showing the operation of a local freight, and showing how cars move according to their waybill instructions.
This sounds like it could be an interesting show idea. I can tell you from my experience running at CMRS that the easy jobs simply have cards handed to the operator by the yard master and those cards have destinations on them. In my case, I had some for an intermediate yard then picked more cars up at that yard and took them to the yard at the end of the line. It's pretty simple.
I agree. Liam Hart's comments just repeat what was said in the earlier video with Seth Neumann -- that's fine for making the video self-contained, but it doesn't give any information that wasn't already in the general ops video. Then the train shown, a manifest freight between two yards is a poor choice, because its only interaction with the CC&WB system is that the engineer is given a wad of cards, which he hands to the Sacramento yardmaster when he arrives there. To show the working of the system, you need to show either a yard job, starting from the point when an incoming train arrives, or a local freight setting off and picking up cars at industries along the line.
20 staff? Sounds like a small FREMO meeting.😉
An LPS right brhind the 4 engines, 3 LPS's right infront of the caboose. 4 power for something that needs 2. Also a caboose on a modern train. God i love foamers.
Someone sure sounds like a foamer!
Canadian railway demands caboose?
Who says it's a load? If it's an empty LPG it's fine with only 2 spacers. In fact it's still fine with only one. In any case, it's not real world anyway! Their railroad, their rules!
@@chrisschanbacher9061 LPS stands for "Load Prone to Shift" sadly you don't learn this in youtube videos since its only part of CROR training. Anyways a load prone to shift is anything that is a load and can shift... So pipes, equipment on flats, lumber, etc. And cannot be marshaled beside any special dangerous, ERAP, or crew/passenger carrying car/piece of equipment. In Canada you only need 1 buffer car between any of these but in the US it requires 5.
@@tsgmultimedia I wish i could play trains all day in a heated house but sadly i have to play trains outside in a yard.
Slow down on the train moves.
"Passenger trains have priority" on the layout? Not very realistic is it? LOL it's the way it should be though!
Amtrak trains hardly ever have priority because they usually run on freight track from other companies.