The production quality is so great, and you describe what you are doing in a way that everyone can understand, without taking too long. Keep up the good work man! Looking forward to buying myself a pair of these bad boys.
@@hvpeless i started when he was milling his SS handles. he deserves way more attention and love. this guy is gonna make a fortune with his baliscizzors mark my words
Carbon fiber, and probably other composites as well, should be milled in a water bath, to contain dust. As for the issues with the resin, you might have to order more stock and play around with feeds and speeds, unless the manufacturer themselves specifies what speed and feed you need. The issue with using a down-spiral bit is chip evacuation, you're machining straight into a pocket, and chips can only evacuate out of what portion of the pocket has been machined; if you do switch to a down-spiral bit, you need to revise fixturing to account for this, which may introduce other issues. Personally, I'd revise clamping first. Something that you could try, for when thin borders and material properties are an issue, is a top plate that clamps downwards, with cavities only where the scales are, with a slight bit of clearance tolerance around the perimeter, and this would work better with screws; basically a fixture-material-plate sandwich clamped by screws. You could have screws located on the outside of the part, which means negating a drilling operation, inside the part, or both, depending on your needs. This kind of setup would also work for any material type, just adjust feeds and speeds per specific material, and thickness, just shim the fixturing for thicker material, with no need to modify Z depth except for step-downs if a certain material doesn't like a full plunge. This concept basically clamps everything except where the scales are to be milled out, those thin borders would no longer be an issue, and material wanting to pull up would no longer be an issue; except possibly where there is a void in the clamp, but that's an unknown variable until the concept is tested.
It has been really cool to see the progression of this design and the mistakes and improvements you made along the way, I will definitely buy at least one.
Looking great! For machining the micarta, G10 and carbon, try using double sided tape to hold them to a piece of aluminum, then clamp the aluminum in a vice. I've used 3M 467MP to machine G10 with great results. Just make sure you clean both surfaces well, I typically use alcohol. I've also found that scuffing the back of the G10 with a scotchbrite pad helps it stick. The only downside is the need to rub the glue off afterwards. For the G10 I machined, I used coolant to keep the dust down and keep the material from burning. Then oil with something like WD-40 after machining to bring out the color. Also, it seems like all the endmills you use have really long flute lengths. This causes the endmills to deflect a lot more, which can cause chatter on your parts and endmills to break. Use the shortest flute length you can get away with and only stick it out of the holder the minimum needed as well.
Comment for the algorithm - love the series so far! I'm definitely gifting myself a pair of these bad boys when you finish them and put them up for sale.
To do thin material parts in one setup on a router I use the blue tape and superglue trick works really well as it holds down the material on the wide bottom surface opposed to just the ends. I would recommend you give it a shot. It might not be the right idea for production as it takes longer than putting something in a fixture BUT for banging out these prototypes it's a great way to do it. That or if you are doing production work I would recommend a vacuum table for the thin sheet stuff and a custom made table with holes only where your pieces are. Totally loving everything you are doing here, especially the details and problems that many channels gloss over.
i think wood for the scales would be really cool, i don't know how you could do that tho and i cant wait until i can buy them they will be so cool! and i love the gold anodizing of the smaller parts!
Your making a lot of good progress! For holding those inserts that's where vacuum really shines, but it is expensive. For just testing I give the ol' masking tape and super glue fixturing method a go. I use the superglue method when milling sheet metal parts. Keep up the good work!
I want this in anodized pink titanium and carbon fiber I can't wait doesn't matter whether it is 200$ or 1000$ I will buy one. Keep it going your doing amazing
i think the black and blue layer g10 with the gnurled pattern would look amazing with the annodized titanium handles the gnurling should give it a better pattern with the layers, and it machined better than the mycarta did so it should come out better.
if you use one sheet for two scales, then you can use your current fixture to drill holes into the sheets which you can use to bolt them onto another fixture. This way you can prevent the sheets from coming loose. Also i would recommend trying stabilized redwood or snakewood inlays with black anodized handles. Anyway love the content and keep up the good work!
Down cutting endmills or conventional cutting tool paths work best for plastics/composites in my experience. Some of your operation orders seem flipped like the scale clamp. Personally I'd deck the part use a chamfer mill to cut the angle since they're cheaper than dovetail cutters, and cut the profile. Flip, drill/counter bore, texture. Function before cosmetic. Doing great tho and love watching people learn by trial and error
For the handle scales, would it be possible to drill a series of round cavities or depressions in the G10 so you would have a good textured grip and be able to see the blue and black pattern?
In episode 6 I might have done the thing you're talking about with drilling round cavities. I think it might work, but the layers of this particular multi-colored G10, just might be too thick. It might be a little more pronounced though. I'll probably try that stuff again eventually but there's a huge amount of options for scales out there, so I'm not sweating it if the striped G10 always ends up bland.
that these videos aren't bigger is surprising to me, would be awesome to see you try multi-colour micarta where each layer is smaller and with more contrast, think it would give the curved surface of the scales a better colour. you could also try some Damascus steel scales, would be more work but would look cool.
I was going to say ealier, "have you thought about Kyranite for the scales?" I see you had some on-hand. It's really smooth, but gives grip. It's an odd material. I love these updates. Keep it up!
Kinda curious about the fixture: why not have a few more clamps at the side and have them press down from the top too? And with the current fixtures - wouldn't some spray-adhesive help? A Bit messy to clean up after every part but it should help with parts moving.
Loving the project so far!! I was wondering if anyone knows if these would be legal to buy in countries where butterfly knives themselves are illegal? Good luck!! Also, when I saw those scales, I was thinking that a more "wet" look like from a varnish would just look Wonderful for making the colors more vibrant and deeper, tho i don't know if that's a preferable thing for the materials and this sorta project.
Hey these videos are super cool! I subbed and bell'd! As someone who uses scissors often in my line of work (textiles related) I think it would be awesome to whip out one of these on the daily. However I can see some frustration arising from having to awkwardly hold and use them without finger loops. Maybe working them into the handles as a sort of "blade guard" of sorts would be just enough to avoid struggling to cut things with them. Just imagine the awkwardness of whipping out a sick pair of Butterfly Scissors but having to put them down and switch to regular scissors to get the job done haha. I'll leave it in your very capable hands good sir! Keep up the awesome content!!✂️
Honestly in my head I wasn't a huge fan of the grips with the holes in them but seeing the last pair on the right with the black and orange grips really changed my mind. I didn't think I would like those grips when I saw them by themselves but with the aluminum, I think, handles they look good.
I also wanted to say you have an amazing marketing campaign going. To me this is way better than just some kickstarter project with a fancy 10 minute video showing the machining process you are actually taking people step by step through the manufacturing steps and the development of the scissors. This is such a better way to do it because you are growing this following while also showing the complete development process who once you work everything out and do start selling them they are gonna be chomping at the bit to buy them. Before fining your channel I had no interest in a pair of ballisong scissors but shit after seeing your videos I would definitely consider purchasing a pair once they are available.
Concerning the issues with the fiber material flexing and differences in stock size, would it do any good to change the fixture method to finger clamps and add pocket holes for locating pins?
Definitely buying a set when you start selling.
If they are under $500 me too
It would be nice if he makes the out of titanium and aluminum for a little cheaper
every time a Baiscissors update is posted I get exited, cant wait until they are finished, because I'm definitely buying one!
Same
This channel is on par with Clickspring in terms of watch priority
I can’t wait to get a pair myself
The production quality is so great, and you describe what you are doing in a way that everyone can understand, without taking too long. Keep up the good work man! Looking forward to buying myself a pair of these bad boys.
1:02 broooo that transition is sooo smooth
hell yea it is.
This series is so cool!! Can’t believe I didn’t find this sooner...
Same Ben... Same
I’ve been here since day one and it’s insane how much he accomplished
@@hvpeless i started when he was milling his SS handles. he deserves way more attention and love. this guy is gonna make a fortune with his baliscizzors mark my words
I think he should make the handles like the spiderfly from spider.co
I have no idea for a name just no
Carbon fiber, and probably other composites as well, should be milled in a water bath, to contain dust. As for the issues with the resin, you might have to order more stock and play around with feeds and speeds, unless the manufacturer themselves specifies what speed and feed you need. The issue with using a down-spiral bit is chip evacuation, you're machining straight into a pocket, and chips can only evacuate out of what portion of the pocket has been machined; if you do switch to a down-spiral bit, you need to revise fixturing to account for this, which may introduce other issues.
Personally, I'd revise clamping first. Something that you could try, for when thin borders and material properties are an issue, is a top plate that clamps downwards, with cavities only where the scales are, with a slight bit of clearance tolerance around the perimeter, and this would work better with screws; basically a fixture-material-plate sandwich clamped by screws. You could have screws located on the outside of the part, which means negating a drilling operation, inside the part, or both, depending on your needs. This kind of setup would also work for any material type, just adjust feeds and speeds per specific material, and thickness, just shim the fixturing for thicker material, with no need to modify Z depth except for step-downs if a certain material doesn't like a full plunge. This concept basically clamps everything except where the scales are to be milled out, those thin borders would no longer be an issue, and material wanting to pull up would no longer be an issue; except possibly where there is a void in the clamp, but that's an unknown variable until the concept is tested.
I’ve never been so hype to see an update video
Im so glad i found this channel young, so I can watch it grow
the handles are coming along wonderfully!!! I can't wait until you have a finished version!
This is one of the best machining series I've seen recently. Please keep up with the amazing work!
I keep forgetting about this series, then a video pops up and I get excited again.
This man will change how the world works
This is one of the coolest Bali’s I’ve seen in a while keep up the good work man
Any estimation on what they might cost? They are so cool.
It has been really cool to see the progression of this design and the mistakes and improvements you made along the way, I will definitely buy at least one.
Looking great!
For machining the micarta, G10 and carbon, try using double sided tape to hold them to a piece of aluminum, then clamp the aluminum in a vice. I've used 3M 467MP to machine G10 with great results. Just make sure you clean both surfaces well, I typically use alcohol. I've also found that scuffing the back of the G10 with a scotchbrite pad helps it stick. The only downside is the need to rub the glue off afterwards. For the G10 I machined, I used coolant to keep the dust down and keep the material from burning. Then oil with something like WD-40 after machining to bring out the color.
Also, it seems like all the endmills you use have really long flute lengths. This causes the endmills to deflect a lot more, which can cause chatter on your parts and endmills to break. Use the shortest flute length you can get away with and only stick it out of the holder the minimum needed as well.
When I heard Squid Industries, the biggest smile appeared on my face. Glad that those in the Bali hobby are sharing their knowledge.
Man keep up the work! Just found this and I’m excited to see the finished bali scissors
Why your channel hasn't sky rocketed yet will forever be a mistery
I already want to preorder baliscissors and I don't even know how much they're gonna cost
It’s so great seeing your channel do so well
I like the micarta ones and then the layered g10 with the slots looks really cool too. These are fun to watch
Every second of this video left me speechless.
Fantastic recommendation from youtube. I love this channel ,Joe Pera's voice with AVE level machining quality, and ToT editing.
AvE is a bit of a rough machinist. He’s more of a fitter. I’d say ToT machining and Clickspring editing.
It’s always nice to see that you’ve uploaded another video
Oh man. I would love me a pair of these
Yess ur vids are something else man🔥
I think the black and blue handles with the decorative holes would look awesome. Subtle but stylish.
cannot wait to see your progress in the next one. just wow
Omg finally a new vid I've been waiting for this
I love this series. Wash the machine well and bump up the oiler interval to keep wear from glass and carbon fiber machining down
In my opinion, the blue resin you used would look the best for scales, very bright
i'm not even into balisong or metal working. But the quality of your video keeps me here
These are so cool. I not only want one for myself. I want to get one for my barber =)
Imagine seeing your barber flip what seems like a knife for about 3 minutes just for them to put it in scissor mode
Comment for the algorithm - love the series so far! I'm definitely gifting myself a pair of these bad boys when you finish them and put them up for sale.
Just getting better and better, getting stoked for them man!
Just love how you talk and describe what's going on bro. Makes it so much more interesting to watch. Thanks brother 🤙
Been here since your first few videos and I’m buying one of these as soon as I can.
Orange G10 on that blue and gold titanium would look GORGEOUS!😍
I'm in, Just subbed! I was already thinking about buying titanium scissors, but if I can get baliscissors I'll jump on them fast!
I will Deff be buying these as soon as I can, all this hard work and passion is inspiring!
underrated channel
Anyone else aside from me think that blue set looked darn pretty?
To do thin material parts in one setup on a router I use the blue tape and superglue trick works really well as it holds down the material on the wide bottom surface opposed to just the ends. I would recommend you give it a shot. It might not be the right idea for production as it takes longer than putting something in a fixture BUT for banging out these prototypes it's a great way to do it. That or if you are doing production work I would recommend a vacuum table for the thin sheet stuff and a custom made table with holes only where your pieces are. Totally loving everything you are doing here, especially the details and problems that many channels gloss over.
The honestly look so phenomenal I can’t wait till you start to sell them
Be careful when milling the carbon fiber! You really really dont want to inhale the dust that is produced.
a bit of water, just enough to make it damp can make a world of difference
Any of the composites and resins should be milled damp or with a liquid catch. Very bad for your health!
I was coming down to comment this. We don’t want anything happening to this legend of RUclips.
it cannot be repeated too many times, please please cut carbon fiber in water/liquid. Inhaling carbon fiber dust is very very bad.
A comment to help the algorithm, because you deserve it.
i think wood for the scales would be really cool, i don't know how you could do that tho and i cant wait until i can buy them they will be so cool! and i love the gold anodizing of the smaller parts!
10:13 Stabilized wood should look great.
im so excited for this project bro this looks so cool
Can't wait to get some of these! They look great!
I love these videos, you're so good at this
Your making a lot of good progress! For holding those inserts that's where vacuum really shines, but it is expensive. For just testing I give the ol' masking tape and super glue fixturing method a go. I use the superglue method when milling sheet metal parts. Keep up the good work!
For sure buying one of these when they come out! Love seeing how their made! :)
dude the handles look so good
I want this in anodized pink titanium and carbon fiber I can't wait doesn't matter whether it is 200$ or 1000$ I will buy one. Keep it going your doing amazing
I'm thinking Raffir Noble Blue Uranium would look amazing as the scale insert. Would be cool to see how it reacts to the mill too
love your production quality and everything dude aaaaa
All the handle options are a great ide.
i think the black and blue layer g10 with the gnurled pattern would look amazing with the annodized titanium handles the gnurling should give it a better pattern with the layers, and it machined better than the mycarta did so it should come out better.
if you use one sheet for two scales, then you can use your current fixture to drill holes into the sheets which you can use to bolt them onto another fixture. This way you can prevent the sheets from coming loose.
Also i would recommend trying stabilized redwood or snakewood inlays with black anodized handles.
Anyway love the content and keep up the good work!
Down cutting endmills or conventional cutting tool paths work best for plastics/composites in my experience. Some of your operation orders seem flipped like the scale clamp. Personally I'd deck the part use a chamfer mill to cut the angle since they're cheaper than dovetail cutters, and cut the profile. Flip, drill/counter bore, texture. Function before cosmetic. Doing great tho and love watching people learn by trial and error
this is dope! cant wait for more
getting better and better
Thanks for the awesome vid! love your work.
For the handle scales, would it be possible to drill a series of round cavities or depressions in the G10 so you would have a good textured grip and be able to see the blue and black pattern?
In episode 6 I might have done the thing you're talking about with drilling round cavities. I think it might work, but the layers of this particular multi-colored G10, just might be too thick. It might be a little more pronounced though.
I'll probably try that stuff again eventually but there's a huge amount of options for scales out there, so I'm not sweating it if the striped G10 always ends up bland.
Yes I have never clicked on a video so fast
Amazing work!!! Keep at it!
Bro can't wait till you sell them!! Nice vid
Did you have a previous channel or experience? You seem to already have expert filming, composition, and flow of your videos
yeah some nice stained dark wood would be nice for the scales... or if you want to go crazy wight marble..
I like the decorative black scales those look dope
that these videos aren't bigger is surprising to me, would be awesome to see you try multi-colour micarta where each layer is smaller and with more contrast, think it would give the curved surface of the scales a better colour. you could also try some Damascus steel scales, would be more work but would look cool.
This is so interesting
Still waiting to buy a pair!
These are absolutely Amazing!
I was going to say ealier, "have you thought about Kyranite for the scales?" I see you had some on-hand. It's really smooth, but gives grip. It's an odd material. I love these updates. Keep it up!
Kinda curious about the fixture: why not have a few more clamps at the side and have them press down from the top too?
And with the current fixtures - wouldn't some spray-adhesive help? A Bit messy to clean up after every part but it should help with parts moving.
Loving the project so far!!
I was wondering if anyone knows if these would be legal to buy in countries where butterfly knives themselves are illegal?
Good luck!!
Also, when I saw those scales, I was thinking that a more "wet" look like from a varnish would just look Wonderful for making the colors more vibrant and deeper, tho i don't know if that's a preferable thing for the materials and this sorta project.
This guy is my fav youtuber
This is so amazing and impressive I think I’m gonna try to do something similar with a pair of scissors
you sound a lot happier in these recent vids
Hey these videos are super cool! I subbed and bell'd! As someone who uses scissors often in my line of work (textiles related) I think it would be awesome to whip out one of these on the daily. However I can see some frustration arising from having to awkwardly hold and use them without finger loops. Maybe working them into the handles as a sort of "blade guard" of sorts would be just enough to avoid struggling to cut things with them. Just imagine the awkwardness of whipping out a sick pair of Butterfly Scissors but having to put them down and switch to regular scissors to get the job done haha. I'll leave it in your very capable hands good sir! Keep up the awesome content!!✂️
I can't wait to buy a pair or two
I liked the blue layers, I think you're right that it would have worked well with the extra holes to show off the color.
I am so excited for this
You're doing great!
Honestly in my head I wasn't a huge fan of the grips with the holes in them but seeing the last pair on the right with the black and orange grips really changed my mind. I didn't think I would like those grips when I saw them by themselves but with the aluminum, I think, handles they look good.
I also wanted to say you have an amazing marketing campaign going. To me this is way better than just some kickstarter project with a fancy 10 minute video showing the machining process you are actually taking people step by step through the manufacturing steps and the development of the scissors. This is such a better way to do it because you are growing this following while also showing the complete development process who once you work everything out and do start selling them they are gonna be chomping at the bit to buy them. Before fining your channel I had no interest in a pair of ballisong scissors but shit after seeing your videos I would definitely consider purchasing a pair once they are available.
Great video. Keep it up. Thanks
Lookin' so good my guy! You really make the best of that tormach. Let me know if you need some help!
Good job on the video man!!
God I can’t wait to get my hand on a pair of these
Where does the milk go after its spilled on the titanium? Does it just spills everywhere? And I know its not milk, so I would be glad if you told me:)
I gotta get one of theese, or is it a pair?
can't wait for you to sell it!
Good god I love these videos.
Concerning the issues with the fiber material flexing and differences in stock size, would it do any good to change the fixture method to finger clamps and add pocket holes for locating pins?
I don't think I saw a bad combination for the handles and insert material. Although I am partial to the orange and black with the decorative slots
So excited to watch this
for the carbon fibre and resin scales, you could try casting in a mold specific for the scales
i love watching these