On August 27th 2021, Microsoft provided an update on Windows 11 system requirements here: blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/08/27/update-on-windows-11-minimum-system-requirements-and-the-pc-health-check-app/ As you will see, they have added a few CPUs to the compatible list, including some 7th Gen Intel processors, but not 1st generation AMD Zen (so chips like the Ryzen 3 2200G remain unsupported). Microsoft is hence -- for now -- sticking to its initial position regarding (fully) supported CPUs, on the grounds of security and reliability. It therefore remains the fact that Windows 11 is an OS for new and pretty new PCs, with as Microsoft put it, Windows 10 being "the right choice" for other hardware. And after 2025, such hardware will no longer be able to run a supported version of Windows. The title of this video still says it all, with my assessment of the situation remaining unchanged following Microsoft's above announcement . . .
Tbh, I wouldn't be too surprised if Win10 support gets extended because of the slow adoption rate of Win11 (given the average PC probably can't run it as in 2018 the average age of a PC was 6 years old) like how XP's support was extended because of the failure of Vista. The gap between 10 and 11 is the largest in Windows history and even longer than the XP and Vista gap and 10 is even more entrenched than XP was in its heyday.
I have win 11 on a 1st generation AMD. All you have to do is replace a few certain files in the Source directory in the ISO, with the windows 10 source directory files, and it boots up and installs with no problem. Same thing with an older laptop. After trying the full version, I also did the same with a light version and it was faster.
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Access to updates. Yuo want to use Windows for something ( otherwise you wouldn't have installed it) and have some apps running there. This program needs to be validated against known threats, signatures/keys checked and revoked if needed.
@@VFPn96kQT Why? Watching DVDs, playing off-line games, viewing family photos etc. doesn't threaten anyone even if it should get infected which it won't.
@Hydride XY Does microft controls what you do on ayour Windows? We're talking about registration, It doesn't reduce functionality. Everything is allowed as long as you don't break EULA ( and even then most likely things will work)
@@propersod2390 For me, the animation thing is a gamebreaker. Having to wait for the right click menu to appear before I can interact with it breaks workflow. I should not have to slow my inputs purely because the OS wants to look fancy
@@Jonen560ti are u serious rn? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Right clicking taskbar, windows icon, desktop and apps on the desktop for me are all instant. Or is 0.1 seconds of an animation too much for u?
That point about people tolerating Windows after Windows 7 instead of craving it like we used to really resonated with me, now I realise why I'm not so excited by Windows as much these days. Thanks for throwing light on that! :)
Yeah, I actually looked forward to new versions of Windows until after seven. In fact, I had so many problems with Windows XP that I went looking for an alternative, not knowing if one existed, and learned about Linux. But even that didn't stop me from being excited to try the newest Windows versions when they came out. Vista hit me hard, but Windows 7 was the best Windows OS to date. It has only gone down from there. I did help some people get their free upgrade to Windows ten, but then I also helped some of them downgrade because of Windows 10 problems right at the beginning.
@@SuperDavidEF Hmm interesting, I used XP from 2009 up until 2012/2013 as my daily OS, and had very few problems with it. Although within that time I think there was a window of time where I was using Windows 7, and that was the best thing ever when I first used it, I never used Vista that much but never had any issues with it. I only upgraded from Windows 7 due to the EOL, same with my dad. I showed him the Windows 11 default wallpaper and he said it looked like someone scrunched up some blue serviettes and took a photo
When the news published about Windows 11, my first thought was "WTF? Mmm, let see how this will work in my machines." Turns out, Windows 11 will not work with those system requirements. Sad, very sad.
Got to agree, 7 was actually a decent release. While XP was one of the better releases (once you got all the SPs installed), I actually miss 98 SE; 95 was a giant turd and never really ready for prime-time. 98 was substantially more stable and still relatively light to run. Things went to pot once they decided to write their OS using .NET instead of native C/C++; it has been a slow beast ever since, requiring more and more resources to run "comfortably". Win 10 was substantially better than 8 in that regard, but still too heavy for my taste.
@@basshead. let us give credit where it is due. Win 10 at least later versions have better running abilities and control if one knows regedit and PowerShell to perfection...all due to a pseudo Linux kernel. The garbage is still a plenty but stuffed under the bed and into the closet, so to speak.
The requirement of having an account and registering the OS online was what initially made me migrate to Mac and later to linux for my new systems. "Continues to take us down the path of an operating system being a service, rather than a basic utility." You nailed it.
@@CuanPrince We are not speaking of logging into a user account on a computer. We are talking about activating the OS. Windows requires an online activation for you to use the operating system. You have to have an account and internet access to use the operating system. Back in the day, to purchase an OS you bought disks and got a key, this meant you owned the OS. Not this way with Windows anymore. Mac and Linux (obviously) do not require online activation.
I tolerated Windows 2000 and XP reasonably well, but really hated having to tolerate anything thereafter, including Windows Vista, 7 (in my opinion even worse than Vista from a user interface point of view even if less unstable), and 10 (fortunately managed to get away with not having to touch Windows 8 except for a few minutes of morbid curiosity).
"for many people (...) Windows is now something they tolerate, rather than crave" - Well said. This is going to be my quote of the month. Couldn't agree more.
It has always been that... :) I've only used 3.1, 98, XP, Vista, 8, and 10 but none of them have been what you'd call slick or nice to use. Windows 8 was probably the most infuriating -- on my laptop/tablet it wouldn't even render colours the same way in Metro UI/tablet mode vs the desktop mode, making the transition very jarring -- especially when it would constantly jump back and forth between the two in some of the settings dialogs for instance. There were settings screens that would ultimately send you to the older "Mouse Settings" dialogs or the like that were, of course, still there under the new coat of paint... So why not just let me load up the "Control Panel" and go there in the first place!
My toleration for anything MS waned the morning I woke up and found Windows 10 installed on my Windows 7 system without my express permission. I got my system restored from backup for a few programs that are not found in the Linux world, or not as tolerable or polished. But made the conscious decision to completely move to Linux as of that time. I have been using Linux Mint since, with the exception of my flight sim cockpit/VR system. I do not regret my choice in the least and my skill set with Linux has vastly improved..
it's a shame because at its core windows 8 actually wasn't too bad, if they just got rid of the tiling UI for PC's it would've had way better reception.
Vista over XP's UI, it looks more modern than the Fischer Price UI. Windows 8 I don't mind the live tiles and since Vista intro'ed the Search function, I don't even use the Start Menu at all.
The operating system ought to be a configurable, consistent interface between the user and the programs they want to run. Not an interactive, distracting, overbearing, interfering mess that morphs itself every six months and needs constant taming to stop it getting in the way.
i like his tuts and hes very honest , its rare indeed i have used many linux flavours and bsds ...but win ten is the most gawds damn annoying sack a crap ever.... this win 11 no thanks
@@Tall_Order how so , hes 100% right since win 7 ms has gona to shit...real shit not its regualr shit , but even looks like shit...win 11 looks like they are trying to rip off linux
@@chronosschiron I'm actually on your side here, so please dont expect me to have to explain the mentality of a microsoft fanboy. I'm just saying that the diehard fanboys will dismiss everything he said as "some boomer" because fanboys are blind.
You might think... but when I turned on my trusted module in the UEFI in preparation for a dual boot like always... now Garunda linux will not load. It's based on Arch so maybe other distros might play well but as it is now I'm forced to choose between the two... and as someone who needs the Adobe creative cloud for career reasons...
Windows 10 was the last straw for me. Ads on the start menu, ads on the lockscreen, ads on the taskbar (that "news" and weather panel no one asked for), dark patterns to force Microsoft accounts and services on you, so on so forth. Although I was lucky enough to avoid it thanks to knowing how to disable all of that garbage, 95% of Windows users just deal with it because they don't know they even can disable it. I upgraded to Linux earlier this year when I'd finally had enough, definitely not looking back no matter how pretty Windows 11 looks.
If you think the Windows 11 looks pretty and you're using Linux, then you can already use the WIndows 11 desktop there. It's called KDE Plasma lol. Microsoft always uses various Linux Desktops as the source of their 'improvements'.
@@nunyobiznez875 I'm already using Fedora's KDE spin :) In truth I've been playing with Linux off-and-on for about 9 years, but this is the first year I've actually really properly *used* it as a daily driver. It's amazing how far it's come since 9 years ago.
@@babyboomertwerkteam5662 I've been using Linux (SUSE) as my primary OS for over 18 years now, though I've always also at least maintained a Windows system as well, even when it's gone largely unused. But Windows has gone so far down the wrong path, and Linux has progressed so far in the right direction, after support for Win 10 ends, my use of WIndows will likely end there as well. I'm not planning to use Win 11 at all. You are right that the progress Linux has made in the last decade has been amazing. But it's still dwarfed compared to the progress it made in the decades prior to that. I only wish I had begun using Linux in the early 90s, when it first began. It was still the wild west days when I did finally start using it at kernel 2.4 in the early 2000s, but it had already made a lot of progress by that point in time and was already fairly mature by then. I do feel a little like I missed out on being able to watch it develop from the very beginning.
He says his enthusiasm for any new version of Windows has waned. every time I hear a new version of Windows announced I get a distinct feeling of anxiety!!
I am one of the proud people who never updated from Windows 7 to Windows 10 on my laptop even though it was free, and they kept pestering me with pop-up ads for months. (Now, I mostly use Windows 10 on another computer, and it's a Ryzen first gen, but even if I can get Windows 11, I'll stay with Windows 10.)
@@Rationalific That was a mistake. even if you were skeptical about windows 10 at first, it was still worth upgrading just so that you can claim the license. Turns out Windows 10 eventually became the best windows Microsoft has ever created, and its security was good enough that you could actually get away with running windows 10 without an AV. When windows 11 drops, I'll still upgrade even if its just for the free license.
Right? Though my situation is very uncommon as a user--I'm a digital painter and the graphic tablet I most prefer is very old and so is my favorite art program. I have to hope Microsoft continues to support these drivers and programs that were built for Windows XP. They work just fine on Windows 10, but every upgrade intimidates me with the idea that I won't have access to the tools I work most efficiently with. Sure, I could buy newer tools, but do traditional painters need to throw out all their brushes and send their entire workstation to the landfill because a company decided their workflow is too old? These are the tools of my craft and I work well with them. I do have newer software for art that I sometimes use as well, but my tablet is non-negotiable and I can't work comfortably in the newer software. Why should I be forced into a new workflow for no reason? It won't improve my artwork. It slows down my productivity as I adapt. Just to have new things for the sake of novelty? Any upgrade for a consumer should provide them with benefits and if they need to sacrifice, it should be to fix an issue that is so dire it's worth the loss. The only issue I see here is that the culture around digital technology demands that we constantly change our tools when other kinds of artists are allowed to use the same tools for decades towards mastery. I can't imagine Microsoft is thinking hard about users like me when they create new OSs, but they have supported backwards compatibility well enough up to this point. If anything I can just dual-boot and have a work station frozen in time while the rest of my digital life progresses. But it's certainly weird as a consumer that I'm even in this position
I remember when Microsoft promised that Windows 10 would be the last ever major iteration of Windows and no new versions would be released, just updates and patches. They have already ensured I won't install Windows 11 on any PC, Linux, here I come.
same, for the most time i am using win10 for most things like projects, games, movies and so on, but some time ago i notice that every few weeks windows started download some bullshit updates that cost me around 2-3gb of disk space every time... in one of these updates was added "news" to taskbar and these news was related to america even i am living in ukraine, ofcource you could turn off this feature but why they force every user to download this?
Good luck with that. The reason so many people tolerate WIndows is that it's easier to live with than Linux. While I use both i dont recommend Linux to the average PC user.
I bought a now unsupported PC with Windows 10 in 2017 when they still said Windows 10 would be the last version. If I was in America I'd look into my options for a lawsuit. They have gone too far this time.
Linux is much worse. Just stick with windows 10 if your system is not supported for windows 11. Windows 10 will still get updates and features until 2025 iirc. Linux is great for specialized use-cases, not for ordinary home users.
"my enthusiasm for new Windows operating systems has waned" A serious understatement. I've done enterprise deployments of every one since Windows 3.1. We used to get all excited about new features..... now, it's just mild amusement wondering what they were thinking when they decide to hide those amazing features from the previous release.
Your question is easily answered: "Let's see how many ways we can screw our customers. And how much money we can make for essentially DOING NOTHING USEFUL!"
@@jamesmccarte1609 lol, it wasn't a question. I know why they do it. Can't complain too much though.... they've kept me well employed for several decades.
@@MrR40388 Yeah, we've been talking about that for over 20 years ;) Not worried, I'll manage the cloud services. Haven't had much to do with physical desktops in quite a long time.
Oh dear ! This looks like chronically bad timing on Microsoft's part. A restrictive OS at a time when the (unrestricted) alternatives are becoming more numerous and viable. Hardware prices, particularly for high spec machines being through the roof, prompting myself and I'm sure plenty of others to hold on to existing hardware, and the potential carbon footprint of replacing millions of computers at a time when climate change is at the forefront of people's consciousness. Have Microsoft just shot themselves in the foot or have they blown it clean off ?
@@truthwillout1980 Yes, I understand that because I know that for many years the introduction of a new OS has had more to do with Microsoft's cash flow projections than actual user need or demand. I appreciate that the timescale for introducing a new OS may demand they do it now, and that it's been planned for some time, but I'm wondering what effect the factors I mentioned (which are outside their control) may have on their agenda ? Personally, and because of the demands it makes, I don't see where Windows 11 fits into my life. My wife has been using Linux full-time and very successfully for over a year now, and I have only one remaining (dual boot) computer that runs Windows 10, the rest having been Linux only for some time. Only a slight adjustment (at no expense) will be needed to say goodbye to Microsoft forever, so why should I ditch perfectly good hardware to move to an OS I don't want ?
Lots of cheap, or free, computers available for Linux users in a few years time :). I just need to keep my existing hardware going while I wait for the opportunity to upgrade!
Indeed. Even an old Sandy bridge like the i5 2500K which served for so long is still a pretty nice office machine. So no reason to throw it in the bin. Just give it another life with Linux.
Seems to be a Chimera of an OS, part KDE, part macOS with Windows holding it up.... and intentionally hostile too, so it's a no to this little beastie. Now, I need to use some eye cleanser....
Indeed, and with none of the features that make any of those appealing. None of the consistent design of macOS, none of the super-customisability of KDE, and none of the features that made older version of Windows, like Windows 7, actually nice to use. Windows 7 was the last good version of Windows. It looked nice, it worked well, and Microsoft knew that so they killed it early by introducing that rubbish artificial CPU ceiling trying to block Windows 7 running on newer CPUs since 2016.
@Tano KDE is a "clone" of Windows... no siree you got that the wrong way around! Many features that would show up on the Windows desktop were in KDE quite some time beforehand. Lol. Look at the first version of KDE from 1996 with those big icons on the panel (taskbar). Took until 2009 for Windows to get that :P
@@babyboomertwerkteam5662 KDE takes a lot of UI influences from windows and Mac designs but has also been an influencer in and of itself at times. I would suggest that about any UI would need to take advantage of popular trends to varying degrees to stay relevant.
But, was he right? For my understanding it works like this: any intel 8th gen cpu or newer and any AMD second gen Ryzen or newer will support the OS for sure. In case the pc does not have one of those CPUs than it must have a TPM 2.0 chip, the presence of the chip depends on computer or motherboard model. For example my desktop with I7 6700K and an ASUS Z170 will support W11
Bought a laptop open box yesterday with windows 10s with free upgrade to 11. Erased ssd and loaded linuxmint 20.2 now I have a laptop with everything I'll need for the coming future.
I'm so glad I switched over to Linux to avoid this stupidity. I've been running Linux Mint Cinnamon on a 9 year old laptop for the last month to take care of my daily computer needs to see how it can handle it and it's running like a champ.
@pk5l ouip most anticipated feature they said is ms store support android apps using msix format... If they fail to implement that properly then its a waste of a decade...
yeah my 1st pc came with windows 8 and when i updated to windows 10 i enjoyed it much more but then things stopped working. i think it was too much for it
I will got a laptop at the tail end of Vista. It was fine and died four later. I replaced that Vista machine in late 2012 with a clearance Win 7 laptop. I got a Win 10 machine about 2.5 years ago as Win 7 was being phased out. If if I get a Win 10 machine, it will be because I must. Knowing Microsoft, installing any Linux Distro on an OEM Win 11 machine will be made difficult . Much of The Win 11 OS security features will make any non OEM OS locked out.
@@edalder2000 That won't happen, because MS has already fallen foul of the rules before. MS simply cannot stop third party hardware manufacturers from allowing alternatives to Win 11. If the manufacturers themselves decide to limit choice, people would ultimately vote with their wallets. Most PC manufacturers can't afford to risk losing customers in today's crowded market.
So they just don't care about Fitt's Law anymore? "The corners of the screen are very valuable, because users can target them with very little effort. You just slam the mouse in the direction you want, and the cursor goes into the corner. And since closing a window is a much more common operation than minimizing, maximizing, and restoring it, it seems a natural choice to give the close button the preferred location. Besides, maximizing and restoring a window already have very large targets, namely the entire caption. You can double-click the caption to maximize, and double-click again to restore. The restore even gets you a little bit of Fitt’s Law action because the top of the screen makes the height of the caption bar effectively infinite."
All mouse-based GUIs are inherently diffucult anyway, akthough easer, of course, than touch-based ones for people with normal motoric skills. Once people learn go use the command line and keyboard they rarely go for the mouse save for unusual tasks. It is much easier to tell the computer what one wants it to do than it is for one to do it oneself through mouse moves, clicks, and visual parsing of multiple infirmation-loaded heterogeneous views. GUIs are cognitively surpirisingly taxing.
@@mechantl0up I grew up on the command line. DOS 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 4, 4.01, 5, 6. But then the GUI was invented. I'm not going back to the dark ages. If that don't create a GUI, then they have failed as software developers.
u know, they have this sub system for linux, WSL, i wonder why they did this, and since valve has the steamdeck, probably more devs will develop for linux too
This and trying to make working a legal installation of Microsoft Office that was imposible to do, are the final nails in the coffin for me. I'm looking to installing Linux Mint for my normal daily use, and keep Windows only for gaming. The annoyances are now too much to handle for me. Let's switch to the penguing for good.
I've used Linux for longer than I have Windows. 8 years ago when I was *12* years old I switched to Linux because my PC at the time performed horrifically in Windows 7. If a 12 year old can figure it out when Linux was early enough on that it was almost *guarenteed* your wifi wouldn't work then the *it's too hard* excuse doesn't exist. Never looked back even though I don't have that PC anymore.
Big corporations always end up in such a situation once the founders hand over to new, professional management that cares more about the bottom line and less about the organisation's future. It's also happening at Boeing and other big companies. The passion for excellence simply vanishes.
Windows 8/8.1 was the beginning of the end in my mind for Microsoft. By the time Windows 10 had released, I'd made up my mind that I was done with Microsoft and consequently moved over to Linux. I've been using it ever since and can honestly say I truly enjoy it. I have a couple offline Windows boxes for offline gaming, though gaming through VM's on Linux is getting easier by the day. Windows 11 basically just reinforces all the reasons I felt Microsoft was going down the wrong path clear back in the 8/8.1 days and highlights further why I have absolutely no interest in supporting or recommending the platform to ANYONE until Satya Nadella (current CEO of Microsoft) is out of the company, and someone with both competence, as well as any level of self awareness towards the users takes control over the company once more. Thus allowing the company to produce products that ACTUALLY do what the users want and demand, verses Microsoft's current strategy of simply trying to FORCE people into adapting to whatever standard Microsoft is trying to set. Until that day comes, Microsoft is a product of a by-gone era in my mind, and Linux is the way forward. Opinions may vary, but that's what I have to say about it.
My pc still uses windows 7 but have upgraded to macos since Apple and Linux at least focus on making their computer os computer os unlike Microsoft making it for tablets.
We can forgive Microsoft, b/c it was expected from them to slowly turn the volume up for anti-features in their O/S. As the frog gets used to the increasing temperature of the water, it will not notice when the water is boiling and it is killed. I'm a happy Linux user since the turn of the Millenium and I'm only running Windows in VMs for work purposes.
When you consider how much e waste this is going to generate it makes you wonder if Microsoft is ethical at all. However all those amazing CPUs and laptops you can buy cheap when this is forced is going to be unreal.
@@HereInPA_Hagen yes thank you Microsoft as 6700hq laptop to run Linux yes please. 🥳🥳🥳🥳. Prices are stupid for old stuff right now. Some of the Linux builds I see are so old tech it's stupid. A guy was trying to put puppy on a p4 system think oh cool. Hopefully if all this old tech looses value we can reap some rewards and Linux finally makes a decent GUI experience
Bonjour Chris, Using twisterOS on my RPi with the Windows 11 interface works just fine for me. The only thing I wish is an accelerated Graphics chip for the RPi. You're review of Windows 11 is spot on and maybe Microsoft will be attentive to a well respected technical commentator.
As a home PC user with simple needs, I gave up dual booting Windows and Linux after Windows 7. I now use Linux solely for my home PC for the past 5 years. I have used several flavours/distros of Linux. My personal Subjective preference is OpenSuse Leap 15.2 KDE. i Stress that it is due to a Subjective choice on my part as there are many excellent Linux Distros apart from Suse. Many Thanks
Chris, First, thank you for yet another informative and enjoyable video. I always appreciate your take on things. Second, I want to point out that your videos have become a valuable on-line resource for me. I am putting together a Pi based NAS using Open Media Vault. Your videos on the topic have given me faith that I can successfully do this w/o a bunch of frustration. I have also reviewed your videos on microSD cards to select one to hold the OS long term and your video on SSDs. For a recent project to move videos to my store bought NAS, your video on codecs and containers was one of the first resources I drew upon. With your videos I do not have to contend with a bouncy, over eager presenter spouting stuff a mile a minute. Instead, I get well paced, concise and thoughtful information that I can use. So, again, thanks for all of your hard work. It is much appreciated.
"...my enthusiasm for any version of windows has waned..." I could not have said it better Chris. Thank you for the review of Windows 11. I have decided to abandon the Windows OS after using versions of it for over 15 years. My next computer will run nothing but Linux. I am searching for your Linux review videos right after this comment. I look forward to your next video.
Definitely considering either Linux or MacOS once Windows 10 support ends on my laptop. Only reason I stick to Windows is because my work Apps and programs only work with Windows.
MacOS is a lot more appealing now that the M1 is a thing and the M1 macbook air has been seeing heavy discounts lately. Might just make the jump once I can get a console for my gaming needs since I still do lots of gaming on my Windows machine.
@@zen608 Yeah. I might just get an M1 Mac Mini or the next Apple Silicon Mac Mini once Windows 10 support ends on my laptop. Already have a tablet for mobility so I probably won't need a desktop OS except for desktop apps.
Welcome aboard the HMS LiNuX, sir! Me am user of Ubuntu ( Debian ) since August 2008, and now run Debian straight-forward on various machines. Best route so far!
@@ciongutkhan8470 I'm a month late, but if you are just dipping your toes from Windows, I'd say Zorin OS is a great distro for beginners. This is where I am right now.
The best thing about Windows 11 is that I'll have convincing grounds to get a couple more laptops moved over to Linux when support for Windows 10 ends. Very nice indeed. I just hope wireless display functionality (e.g. Miracast) in Linux is supported by then.
I have been moving away from Windows for over a year. Your videos explains why. I currently dual boot between Linux and Windows. Linux is the default. There are still some things I have not figured out how to do in Linux, but I am working on it.
I totally agree, regarding hardware "requirements", the term "Shameful" is the most respectful word we can use. I recommend that: Software Vendors: Improve / invest in linux ports / releases. Linux Distros: Improve / invest in UX, education, support and publicity. In fact we already have a lot of it. Final users: Try using a linux flavor. Yes, it's easy, beautiful, fast, reliable, and give us the freedom we deserve.
@@jkeelsnc This is one of the best comments I've seen on this so far. I'm a huge fan of Linux, and have used it for awhile. I used Windows 10 for a long time, then switched to linux, and back to Windows 10. Linux is not a great Operating System for creative people. Like you mentioned, the Adobe Suite is missing, then there's things like music programs (fl studio, ableton), then there's construction programs (Revit, AutoCAD, Navisworks), then there's Oracle compatibility with things like SQLDeveloper (which I'm using for SQL programming and school, and I know MySQL works great on it), then there's android compatibility, even microsoft is realizing and is using the amazon store which sucks compared to google play, and this part REALLY matters this day in age. Then 3D animation software (Blendr doesn't cut it for some). Gaming is also huge. I think we might need to shift our gears into making Android phones and tablets more compatible with this kind of stuff. Android could easily become a full fledged desktop environment, and there's a lot of huge push from companies like Samsung who've created Samsung Dex (which is amazing and something I use a lot). Plus, Android is already built from a Linux framework and gives the user a lot of freedom that's really understated (especially with programs like Termux, and the ability to literally install a full-fledged linux distro on top of your android phone with very little compatibility issues). Phones are starting to become very fast. I think it's important we bridge this gap, and once and for all wipe windows off the market. Make Android compatible with legacy computers and desktops, and BOOM, microsoft has some steep competition.
I switched to linux mint on some of my PCs a year ago. It still takes some time getting used to it sometimes, but I never looked back. Need one win10 pc for some simulation programs though
@@jkeelsnc I don’t know if I’m 100% behind your idea that “there should be only ONE”. That’s the idea driving Microsoft’s whole attitude. Personally, I like variety. It just needs to be variety that works. So, not necessarily ONE, but compatible. I could work with that.
@@jkeelsnc The Adobe Creative Suite workflow is indeed important to many people and industries. As a home user, I have successfully moved all my image editing and video editing needs to GIMP and DaVinci Resolve (the latter of which is often used by many serious and enthusiast filmmakers over Premiere). However, my anecdotal experience here is not the same as stating it is possible to switch, even if functional equivalence is the same (which I am sure it is not in fringe cases), because people and businesses have existing assets, existing skills, existing plugins, and existing deadlines all built around their current hardware and software. I'm not even promoting GIMP, just using it as a proxy image editing software for any home users that want to cut the cord with Adobe (and by extension, Microsoft) dependence. And yes, DaVinci Resolve has a Linux version (at least according to their website).
Even without the hardware restrictions (none of my current windows 10pcs will run windows 11) I have yet to see anything that would want to make me upgrade.
I’m sure once this information hits mainstream and the public realizes how much ewaste will be generated by these hardware constraints Microsoft will be forced to backpedal on these requirements.
But, look, shiny new graphics!! Just throw away your perfectly functioning hardware and buy a new PC, and you too can enjoy new bitmaps and having a menu moved slightly to the right.
I am still using it. Windows support is not worth anything anyway. Just try phoning them with a problem. I did once and was given my own tel no to phone!
"The Edge browser. Someone's got to use it; might as well be Microsoft". What an eloquent and economical condemnatiomn. So much said with so little! :-)*
The release of windows 11 is great imo. By releasing an even more closed OS in a time that OS's such as linux becomes a more viable option means that (depending on the development like steams compatibility fixes for their games on the Linux kernel among other developments) this could encourage many more people into moving to Linux and expose the need for more and better open source software, drivers and support.
If people move to Lennox it's not going to move to a more open environment. In the fact most likely it will move to a more closed environment. Fact of the matter is the end user does not wanna deal with Open Source shit, they just wanna run the application, for better or for worse. OS is not gonna be encouraged, the ecosystem will be as bad as windows in OS programs with the OS fanatics having extremely little say into the ecosystem.
@@donovan6320 Linux already is an open environment by nature and will remain that way regardless of future user adoption. I believe that by (windows) closing itself off more and providing less freedom to its users will most likely encourage people who DO care about having freedom of choice to move to Linux and/or at least encourage more attention be paid to free alternatives of some of Microsofts price gouged products. Open source simply provides an alternative for those who want more and (in many cases) better options. I think a lot of people stayed with windows for the main reason being that it was one of very few viable options, which isn't the case now, the average person most likely would prefer to use the hardware they have currently and don't want to switch to more expensive systems to accommodate an OS that provides little to no benefits and treks down a path with a model focused on selling more products rather than functionality. I do not believe mass adoption of windows 11 will work with the required hardware configurations needed.
@@kingofbubbles6220 The end user wants a computer that turns on and boots up office. They want everything to be plugged in play. They want a nice giy and be able to double click on an executable to install whatever app nl matter how insecure it may be. They don't care about updates or security, or app stores on PC and dispise terminal apps. To them those are the IT guys job. Power users, system administrators, etc are thr only ones who care For me I won't be switching anytime soon because visual studio is still the best .net code editor (I hate VS Code especially on multiproject solutions) and no office suite loads and saves .docx, .ppx, .xlsx etc reliably. Windows for me is the only choice.
@@donovan6320 My point is that Linux becomes a better option every day. I don't believe there's gonna be mass migration over to Linux, I believe adoption of windows 11 will be slow at best as "the end user" also doesn't want to buy completely new hardware (in a time where PC costs are through the roof) to accommodate a new mediocre OS. I still believe the average person most likely doesn't care about privacy and functionality, I think those who *do* care about it will probably be put off by Microsofts shifting standards. Edit: And terminal know-how is not as big of a requirement as it used to be, Linux has terminal functionality, just like how windows has terminal functionality.
@@kingofbubbles6220 It may not be a requirement but when every tutorial suggests it then it looks like it. Also that they would rather work in an environment that's familiar. Don't give them a .exe analog they are out. Microsoft isn't shifting any standards There are Enforcing standards they've required to be on every window certified PC for past 6 years. The only new thing is the cpu requirements. That still leaves even on 7th gen pcs some 8 years or so of life and most people upgrade every 5 years. There is no problem to the end user.
I agree with this video wholeheartedly. The reason I am not excited is because there is no vision anymore. W11 largely looks the same but with a huge hassle to comply with the many rules. Just imagine if Microsoft released a new MSPaint that supported layers or a new fully-featured video editor. That would make a difference, but they want to push everyone into the cloud. If MS doesn't watch out, someone else will create a more popular OS soon!
The last time I got excited about an operating system was when I changed from CP/M to DOS 3.3 - First version to support 3.5-inch, 1.44 MB floppy drives and diskettes, extended and logical partitions, directory tree copying with XCOPY.
09:59 And how can anyone believe that statement after what Microsoft lying about Windows 10 being its very last definitive version of its operating system?
@@apefish2266 linux lacks a bazillion features and lack-of interactibility that makes it so only tech-savvy people can use it. It's far from overtaking Windows, as the majority of the users have no idea what's even an OS.
I have no intentions of changing my hardware for windows 11. I'll only change once my hardware fails..I have a lot of old hardware and it works perfectly.
Everything you have said I totally agree with Christopher. I've been a Windows user for years but maybe it's time to look at Mac or a user friendly Linux distribution. I was really passionate about all things IT once but now as I'm getting older sadly it's just a tool for everyday use. In a nutshell Microsoft has just treated users particularly those not so skilled with utter contempt. This may well backfire so maybe long overdue. Great video and extremely informative. Thanks for posting this 🙂.
@@KameraShy If you still have your Windows 7 installation media then: 1. Install Ubuntu. (Plus optionally Cinnamon desktop.) 2. Install Virtualbox or VMware. 3. Re-install Window 7 in a virtual machine.
I'm excited to see linux grow its market share. Also, I hope they bring the fun back from windows XP to linux. As I loved the charm in old operating systems vs the new ones which have lost that charm ever since windows 7/8.
So, just for clarity Gary, Microsoft, requiring PART of a PC's hardware to be compatible with windows 11 is them "treating users ... with utter contempt". And your potential answer is to go to a Mac ... where the ENTIRE computer must be apple built?
I switched to Linux Mint 1.5 years ago as my daily driver and never looked back. However, I need Windows 11 for the rest of the family as they don't want Linux (maybe my wife). Habitually, I've always had used computers for everyone to use; now I'm moving my daughters to Ryzen computers that are Windows 11 - compatible.
@Cindy SparkleFarts My daughters' computers have been replaced, one with a Ryzen 3400G system (that I had built for myself but never really used) and a Ryzen 4300G I bought for my wife but then decided to give it to my other daughter. I'm building my wife a Ryzen 3 4650G computer; the CPU should be here this coming Wednesday; I already have the other components.
I have one big question/concern! I know that linux really came a long way in the last years and now is easy to install and use, but, I'm one of those users that does not want to go and search for drivers, for compatible softwares or anything like that, I just want to tell google what program i want to download and I know that once the installer is on my PC I only have to click on it for it to work. My concern is that with some random programs I will be required (on linux) to "manually install" it. How is your experience? I also like the syinc of the documents, user settings and favorites on edge between my laptop and desktop. Is this feature also available on linux?
@@mastroitek 1: You can use sudo apt install (for Ubuntu based distros; just add the name after the command) 2: Edge is available for Linux, but I don't know if it will sync with other devices, but it should
@@mastroitek Long post ahead, buy some popcorn. Usually, you don't have to go and search for drivers. I have installed Linux Mint on a Pentium 4! The only problem seemed to be that it used to freeze at random which at the time I attributed to graphics card driver issues, but I received word from a friend that I am mistaken as it could be due to faulty connections due to the age of the computer. So, unless you have some kind of bleeding edge hardware, you are good to go. Many vendors release Linux versions of their hardware drivers anyway now. You might have to learn some new programs, in case some program is Windows-only. It usually happens with propertiery programs, but it is getting increasingly uncommon. I am of the opinion, however, that if a program doesn't offer a Linux version, I might as well use something else if possible. As others have said, most programs are available through the distro's repositories. You can install them either through the command line or through the graphic "Software Manager" (names may vary by distro), similarly to Google Play Store. In some cases, you do have to install a program using an installer (e.g. .deb package), but it is handled through a different part of the software manager. I don't get what you mean by "manually install". In any case, programs offer installation guides detailing the process. You use EDGE? Who are you, Microsoft (3:10)? Jokes aside, I don't know if Edge for Linux supports syncing but you can always move to Firefox, it offers great syncing capabilities and you should be able to import the current settings from Edge. Overall, my experience with Linux has been excellent so far. I have used Linux Mint (daily driver for the rest of my family), Ubuntu (was kinda slow for my taste), Lubuntu (VM in my Windows computer to facilitate developing) and Debian (WSL and at school, both via ssh and using the GUI). I would move my computer there, probably I will do it at some point, but couldn't do it due to Webex's lack of support for a native client. I hope my analysis is useful. Tag me if you need to ask anything.
Transferred to Linux Mint on my main computer several years ago and couldn't be happier. Does everything I want and better than any version of Windows ever did. The interface is fully configurable so I don't have to learn a new interface every couple of years as well and hunt round for where everything is. I run Windows 10 on a secondary computer just for one legacy program which won't run on Linux. I won't upgrade to Windows 11 and if Windows 10 is ever effectively "switched off" by Microsoft then I will looking for an alternative (i.e. non-Microsoft) solution. I worked in IT for 30 years and used to be a Microsoft fan boy but not any more. Microsoft can go and spin on it now for all I care.
Microsoft's timing for these restrictive new hardware requirements couldn't be worse. The world is struggling with CPU, GPU and most other PC hardware supplies, meaning it's going to be difficult for many people to even find new hardware. Let alone millions at once. I think that alone is going to significantly limit the adoption of Win 11.
You have till oct 2025 to upgrade.. The hardware shortage will be over by then! Its really a great thing how more secure your system will be once you upgrade. You should be thanking Microsoft.
@@northyland1157 Will it be over by then? It should have been over with by now. Moving Ethereum mining to proof-of-stake will help with GPUs, but scalpers will remain a problem until there's enough CPU supply to bring prices back down to MSRP. We can only hope these newly planned foundries will be online by 2025.
Hopefully not an immediate problem generally. This is not like on the Mac where a new OS release becomes the majority after a few months. This is Microsoft and upgrades, percentage wise, happen at a snails pace.
@@northyland1157 It will be more securely in the hands of Microsoft, not more secure for the users. Corporations hate their customers. Remember that. They only want your money. Microsoft is the worst offender. There's no way they're doing it for you.
Just put windows 11 on a 2011 Thinkpad and a 2016 Inspiron and it never stopped me for some reason, absolutely surprised by how well it performs, Its crazy they have these extra requirements when some old hardware is perfectly capable of running it.
So true about tolerating Win after Win7. I remember being *so* excited to install Win95 on my 486DX2-66. Win10 I only got it because Win7 support was stopped in early 2020. Now 30 years after I got my first (hand me down) PC compatible, I'm ready to totally turn my back on MS.
@@Synthwave89 Linux (Arch Linux perhaps as SteamOS is based on it). Steam and Proton gives access to games. MS Office documents, I've an Office 365 subscription via work so can open documents in a browser (Firefox or Chrome).
I actually don't like the centered menu, it looks nicer but it's impractical because the location of each icons will change everytime and it's annoying that you can't rely on your muscle memory to click on your pinned apps.
@@pinklightninggacha to be honest it's not that outdated. For now. Plus after all, it's stable version. It's supposed not to be the bleeding edge software.
I'm pretty much done with Windows at this point. Ive got my builds on dual boot with various different linux distros at the moment, but im sure one day i will switch to Linux completely.
Do a SomeOrdinaryGamers move like I have done haha (RUclips his name along with Linux in the search) and run it under a virtual machine if you have good enough hardware or just buy an additional hard drive (can get them cheap second hand or refurbished on various websites) for Windows and only use it when you need to. Linux all the way for me though! 😁
It's *just WRONG* not having the Start button in the lower left. This means you have to *actually look* for where it is instead of just moving your mouse to the lower left. With it in the lower left corner you can start moving your mouse there before even looking to finally line it up. And actually you don't even need to line it up. If you keep moving the mouse in that direction it can't overshoot and you just need to click. You can do it without looking. Lower left corner is faster. (Unless you have a second screen on the left.)
@Tano - I think you miss understood my point. I'm saying you can move the mouse to the Start button in the lower left (like it has defaulted to since Windows 95 IIRC) AND click it without even looking. Your eyes can finish reading whatever while you move the mouse to the Start button without even looking. It's just faster there as you can't move the mouse past the lower left (unless you have a 2nd monitor there). Yes, it is only a second but my subconscious like to get a jump start before I'm even done reading (or whatever). Try it. But thanks to "ThatsIsJustCrazy" above, now I know it can be moved back to where it should be. It's not about complaining about new things but more about not changing things just to change them.
This might be an early release or demo but what really bothers me is the advanced part requirements for an interface that looks more suited to a cheap Single Board Computer.
They did this to avoid security threats related to CPU. Also the OS probably now takes full use of newer instruction sets only available on modern CPU architectures.
To some degree this is true. But earlier versions are secure until they cease to receive security patches (ie when programmers at Microsoft cease to play catch-up with the hackers).
Actually if you follow general secure practices it's very hard to catch a malware on unsupported OSes. And then there are hardening measures for older OSes to increase security without patches.
That's a true statement because once security updates stop being released then you are vulnerable to any new weaknesses that hackers find for any given OS. There are Linux distros that are far worse in this regard forcing full version upgrades in some cases on an annual basis.
It was pretty obvious to me that after Windows 7, Microsoft stop listening to its users. So a couple of years before Windows 7 reach end of support, I started to make the switch to Linux. So when Windows 7 support was dropped, I was fully using Linux as my main OS. I won't say that converting to Linux was painless but it was something I knew I had to do. I still occasionally use XP, Windows7, and Window10 but only in a Virtual Box machine under Linux. And I hardly ever spin up that Windows 10 VM. I even have two SSDs in my laptop where I can boot directly into Windows 10 or Linux. But to be honest, I have never once found a need to boot directly into Windows so that second Windows 10 SSD turned out to be a waste of money. Probably the hardest part of converting to Linux was finding replacements for the Windows programs I was using. But eventually I found Linux equivalents for the most common tasks. For those few exceptions where I have to use Windows (e.g. update the maps on my Garmin GPS), I do it from a VM instead. Even if Microsoft changed their ways and started listening to their users again, there would be no way that I would go back to Windows. Is Linux perfect?... by no means. But Linux is orders of magnitude better than Windows 10.
@@NowThatsAnime I am currently using Linux Mint 19.2 and in the process of switching over to Linux Mint 20.2. One of the great things about Linux is you can removed your hard drive/SSID from one computer and put it in another and you are usually off and running again. So I am building the new version on a spare laptop and plan to move it over to my production laptop when I am done. No issues with registrations and no 100 page terms and conditions you have to agree too. I am sure other Linux distributions are good too but Mint has serve my purposes well.
I feel the same way about Windows over the years. Windows 7 really was the last decent version of windows, I think it's really the Windows as a service that really makes it so awful. Hopefully more and more people will go down the Linux road, I know I will as soon as i can run the software I need on it.
@@aviralverma2944 You can try first install later. Manjaro Linux KDE and an empty USB drive. Find tutorials how to create "livecd usb" or a "bootable usb" If you dedicate a second HDD (or some partition space on your current one) then you can install it *alongside* Windows (aka dualboot)
Microsoft has been trying to push TPM for 20 years for "security", but really because it transfers control of people's system away from users and towards Microsoft. They've been turning Windows into an unusable walled-garden for a while now, but people keep bypassing restrictions, so forcing the restrictions through hardware gives them a little more control and makes it a little harder to bypass (though even hardware lock-downs don't stop people, viz the Kamikaze Xbox 360 hack!)
Kaimkaze wasnt exactly a 'little harder' you was essentially cutting 1 wire in a very crude manner and 1 mm out and you bricked your drive. Not really comparable to TPM xD
@@AurynGaming you are missing the point the guy is just pointing out the extreme lengths people will go to to bypass restrictions even if it does mean you might brick your disc drive
Goodness, if there’s gonna be a landfill of 7th gen and bellow I would SWIM to get at least ONE. For all my life I have never tasted past 2ND Gen (poor gang) and I would screech in joy, I have no problems using them since I use a Linux distribution. Greatest possible win.
7:03-Just before you got to the “Coming Soon” part of the description, I was planning to make a road trip to my mom’s so I can run that comparability checker for her recently purchased computer. Mom comes from a place, situation, and time where a person learned to appreciate each large purchase, to take care of that purchase more so than a great many people and choose the subject of that purchase carefully. Her computer is only a couple of years old, and surprisingly powerful, (considering how she uses it) and I hope that she can upgrade the thing easily. She’s not a tech person, and would not understand the Microsoft Balderdash spouted to justify its changes. I get the feeling that those of us who are a bit more tech-oriented might feel as bad or worse! I inherited her old computer-I’ve upgraded the ram and storage and it’s running Linux Mint now-but I don’t think I want to inherit another computer!
@@paulstubbs7678 Ah, but there’s always Locutus’s sleep command! Kidding aside, I’m not thrilled about this-I even toyed with teaching Mom the basics of a Linux distro, but the ugly reality of it all is that for her needs, like it or not, Windows is not just the best game in town in terms of her relatively modest computer usage, but until we can break the hold, it’s the company store!
@@angusmacfrankenstein7227 I have taught older people how to use computers so I feel your pain. Personally, if your Mum’s computer won’t accept Win11, I would put a Linux distro on her computer. Linux Mint seems to get a lot of good reports from Windows refugees.
This is the kind of behaviour one would expect from a company that is seriously tired of its own existence. Microsoft seems to have fallen into a deep depression since Bill left. It wants its daddy back. It is insecure and alone in the dark, all the money can´t make it happy, it needs to get comforted by dad.
My main PC is 9 years old and still does everything I need from it. It doesn't have UEFI and is running an i5 Core 2500K CPU. Looks like I will be running Windows 10 beyond its 2025 end of support.
I am the same, have 3 Dell Optiplex machines from 2012 to 2013 with Core I5, 6gb of ram, 512gb ssd; basic workstations. Windows 11 won't support them, so it's back to the XP to Vista days where I stick on unsupported os for a couple of years. What does Microsoft think that I am going to pay 2,000 to 3,000 for brand new systems just to support Windows 11? Haha!! They can go screw themselves!! This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I still don't know what I am going to do. I tried migrating to Linux, but the way I have networking and programs, I literally need a Linux professional just to help me set it up and I will need new training to support Linux.
I think you hit the points most users are wondering about. There's been a slow destruction of the PC user market for a while, and I wouldn't be surprised if the base for linux will increase with more friendly distros. Thanks for the video.
I be completely honest here. I thought your style is a bit old. But after watching many videos, I realized that it's not old, it's a classical. And I was being rude to thinking that way. Your works are so great.
@@ExplainingComputers I love Barnett's videos, but I will say that there are some aesthetic and oratory changes that he can make to improve the quality of his videos substantially; all without compromising the professional veneer he has established in his excellent videos. Granted, this would require research on editing and graphical techniques that some modern youtubers utilize. --Chris seems like a busy dude given how knowledgeable he is, so his capability to dedicate time into these aspects while maintaining a proper upload schedule, as well as handling research and development on each given video seems like asking for a bit much -- especially on a channel that uploads free content. A bit of a shame, but ExplainingComputers is such a valuable resource tool for guys like me who get into electrical engineering on a whim, that I can't find it in me to lament a couple niggles here and there.
I hope this backfires spectacularly in Microsoft's face and with the advent of Linux gaming becoming more of a thing thanks to the Steam Deck there is hope that it will.
lets hope so... but would be nice with a fully compatible alternative so stuff just worked... but I must admit I have seriously considered just dumping winblows, Win8 I skipped and Win10 has been super obnoxious and they haven't even fixed the thing about "multiple control panels" instead of just having ONE where you can go into sub categories to fix everything... noooo we need multiple and stuff is hidden weird places and such that makes no sense when you were used to older versions.... Win98/Xp/7 where the BEST... after that it has just been horrible... heck even Windows 3.11 is better than Windows 8/8.1/10
I wonder if anyone has considered the impact this will have on the elderly,Many of us rely on our computers, renewing prescriptions,contacting family,shoping.etc.In my case my pc is 15yearsold.Cannot afford a new one like all of my old dodderer friends.We are aiming to move to linux.Wish us luck.
In my experience, upgrading senior folk and the ancient version of Windows that they inevitably have on their venerable computer to a lightweight Linux distro such as Lubuntu is invariably a complete success. Just do it and they will be happy.
What you rely on is your browser. As long as there is an icon on the desktop to launch Firefox, Chrome etc., nothing will get in the way of your emails or prescription service. If you need to do some word processing, home publishing or something similar, there are so many alternatives to Microsoft Office. I've been using Linux since 2008 - Ubuntu Hardy Heron - and never looked back. Good luck making friends with a penguin!
I'm not sure where you live, but if you are upto the task, do check your local recycle center drop off points, and see if they will let you look in the e-waste bin for good hardware to salvage. I do it from time to time, and have gotten good gear like Apple Macbooks(I run Manjaro Linux on them), HP desktops/laptops, Amazon Kindles, etc.. all I needed to get them running again if they are in decent shape was a little elbow grease with Lemon Lysol, a soft clean paintbrush, my mini shop vac in blower mode, replace the thermal paste on the CPU(that's more advanced, and only if you are up to that task) and if they have at least 4GB of RAM and a decent dual core CPU you are 1/2 way to running something like Solus Linux, Manjaro Mate Linux, or Chromium OS via Neverware CloudReady OS Home Edition(all free unless you want to donate to the Linux projects to say thanks, or buy some merch) just pick up a cheap 120GB ADATA SSD off ebay for $22, and a SATA III cable for a few bucks if needed, and use that as your boot drive, and reformat the HDD in the system as secondary storage.
Hello, J H, There is nothing to worry about Linux. I am writing this on a Linux OS installed laptop. I bought it 2006 & installed Windows XP. It initially had 0.5 gb ram and 120gb HDD. After 2014 I have removed Win XP and upgraded RAM to max limit 2 GB and 500 GB HDD. Initially I tried Ubuntu 14 which was slow. So I shifted to Linux Mint 17 cinnamon, I used it till 2019, then upgraded to linux mint 18 which running slow. So I moved to Ubuntu Mate 18 which was running great but if you open 6-7 tabs in chromium it starts to cripple. Finally I moved to Lubuntu 18. Which runs great. But problem with Lubuntu and with all ubuntu distro is they have stopped support for 32 bit cpu architecture. which is my case. So my Lubuntu ed can't be upgraded and will be left unsupported after 2023 April. I can however Install Linux mint debian ed but computer will run slower. Lubuntu is not as beautiful as linux mint but it does all the job. If you have 15 years old PC could be it also has a 32 bit CPU and you don't have much option left. I suggest you to buy a 2nd hand PC from Amazon or Ebay. They come with pre-installed windows 10 and have good config. Dell, HP, Lenovo are few to name. Check description. I have purchased a Lenovo Thinkcentre M72e with intel i5 3rd gen 3470s and 8gb ddr3 RAM, 320gb HDD. which is running great for 6 months. You can uphrade HDD to SSD and it will work even better. Of course it is a 64 bit cpu and all Linux distro especially Linux mint cinnamon will run great. How ever it came with Windows 10 genuine ed which I have kept. You can activate win 10 ed in stalled with the win 7 activation sticker attached to your 2nd hand PC. The price I paid for it is only 110 $. However, if you plan to use win 11 then this PC won't work.
Technically I think hard hardware requirements are a really good opportunity to clean up the OS (remove old and legacy drivers for hardware almost no one uses anymore). But this is Microsoft we are talking about, I doubt they will actually do this and the hardware requirement is just a result of horrible coding.
I personally never install spyware on my systems. When Windows10 became 'free', I decided not to pay the price and move to Linux Mint. I never looked back...
10:05 - "This is a big improvement on Windows 10, which likes to stop you working and mess up your PC every 6 months." Truer words have never been spoken in relation to Microsoft. Ever.
I thought I heard back when 10 was launching Microsoft say that they no longer we’re going to do these upgrades and they were just going to take the macOS approach to releasing incremental updates.
Incremental updates isn't the macOS approach. Each new macOS version released every year is a whole new operating system often with loads of things changed under the hood which makes old programs stop working correctly. That's why a lot of Mac users - and especially those who rely on older versions of photo, video and audio apps - never update their computers.
TPM. Has nothing to do with the user's ability to trust the platform. More like Microsoft trusting the user's platform. MS remains an abusive monopoly, and if it weren't for games I'd have switched decades ago.
MS has had this monopoly since the days of Windows 98 when they forced every computer to have Internet Explorer and as more people used Internet Explorer, they relied more on using Windows. Also, I'm not a Windows hater, in fact I like using Windows on my computer for than anything else. I'm just saying how the monopoly all started.
@@jezz2k Wine can definitely work on Debian, not sure why it wouldn't work for you. And honestly, not every game may work with it, but the majority of games does these days (a notable exception being games with EAC or BattlEye Anti Cheat). Proton runs the majority of Windows games on Steam quite well, and for non-Steam games, Lutris helps you set up Wine for lots and lots of games.
I really hate when Microsoft changes the "look and feel" of the desktop for no good reason, or changes where things are located. As a power user, I am constantly having to re-learn where to find things in the OS. Microsoft doesn't listen to their users - they are off in their own world, making changes for no other purpose than to justify their jobs. I have been a PC user since the mid 1980's, but after Windows 7 support ceased I have been migrating everything I can over to Mac and Linux. There are only a few apps I use that are not available on other platforms, but I guess that before 2025 I will need to find good alternatives and completely cut the MS cord.
I think you'll be able to move it back to the left, or so I've read. I also imagine that GUI shells to make 11 feel more like 10 (or even 7?) will pop up in time.
Agreed! I remember struggling to find network adapter settings back with windows 8.0 on my uncles laptop...something that would of taken me 2 seconds on any previous windows. That was a hot mess.
I can hit the start menu with my mouse without looking because its in the corner...good luck doing that when its in the middle. its just plain dumb, "fixing" something that is perfectly fine as it is.
I thought we were going to get the 'Theme tune' from a certain spaghetti western, 1966 anyone!! Another interesting and thought provoking video from Chris. I switched to Linux Mint several years ago, dual booting with Win 7 (offline)! The dock in W 11 is very similar to the one in 'elementary' OS (Linux).
I think its convenient how they revised the CPU requirements to include their studio 2 machines. That particular 7th gen processor seems to only be used in Studio 2 or it is only narrowly deployed in a very limited number of OEM systems.
On August 27th 2021, Microsoft provided an update on Windows 11 system requirements here: blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/08/27/update-on-windows-11-minimum-system-requirements-and-the-pc-health-check-app/
As you will see, they have added a few CPUs to the compatible list, including some 7th Gen Intel processors, but not 1st generation AMD Zen (so chips like the Ryzen 3 2200G remain unsupported). Microsoft is hence -- for now -- sticking to its initial position regarding (fully) supported CPUs, on the grounds of security and reliability. It therefore remains the fact that Windows 11 is an OS for new and pretty new PCs, with as Microsoft put it, Windows 10 being "the right choice" for other hardware. And after 2025, such hardware will no longer be able to run a supported version of Windows.
The title of this video still says it all, with my assessment of the situation remaining unchanged following Microsoft's above announcement . . .
My pc suports windows 11 yay in installed insider
Tbh, I wouldn't be too surprised if Win10 support gets extended because of the slow adoption rate of Win11 (given the average PC probably can't run it as in 2018 the average age of a PC was 6 years old) like how XP's support was extended because of the failure of Vista. The gap between 10 and 11 is the largest in Windows history and even longer than the XP and Vista gap and 10 is even more entrenched than XP was in its heyday.
I have win 11 on a 1st generation AMD. All you have to do is replace a few certain files in the Source directory in the ISO, with the windows 10 source directory files, and it boots up and installs with no problem. Same thing with an older laptop. After trying the full version, I also did the same with a light version and it was faster.
Do they support Vacuum tubes?
Another shady Microsoft move because they can just [basically] get away with it...and keep getting away with it.
"Shameful" - That's the strongest piece of language I've heard CB use in all my years of following him! I know he means it! 😬
Well he sometimes uses the word "swine"
@@Drakey_Fenix 😄 I'm sure he's just holding back!
"Shameful" is way too kind, in my opinion.
@@SkipperChuck42 :- Well, when he gets the final release version, he might say he is "Jolly cross".
Descriptors like that are far more profound when delivered by someone that is typically unflappable.
"Windows 11 is designed to bring you closer to what you love."
Well, they FINALLY get something right. Linux
:)
Windows 10 made me migrate to Linux, and I never have looked back.
Linux distro's are in many flavours and there is probably one for everyone.
@@sleepymarauder4178 why people think Linux is better than window 😐
@Throwable Salt imagine somehow download games then struggling in scripting 😐
@@lynx873 just use steam
Hey Microsoft, explain how having to have an Internet connection improves security over not having one?
Possible response “At Microsoft we wish to bring the world together in a more collaborative atmosphere. By allowing us 24/7 webcam and microphone access, you are doing your part to bridge the digital divide. If you are doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear. Download Windows 11 today.”
Access to updates. Yuo want to use Windows for something ( otherwise you wouldn't have installed it) and have some apps running there. This program needs to be validated against known threats, signatures/keys checked and revoked if needed.
@@VFPn96kQT Why? Watching DVDs, playing off-line games, viewing family photos etc. doesn't threaten anyone even if it should get infected which it won't.
@@qviewq2071 To play DVD and play games you have to instal programmes and drivers. One of the things Windows update is doing is downloading drivers.
@Hydride XY Does microft controls what you do on ayour Windows? We're talking about registration, It doesn't reduce functionality. Everything is allowed as long as you don't break EULA ( and even then most likely things will work)
I remember when I was excited to see new versions of Windows, now I'm just terrified how much they will mess it up
> _now I'm just terrified how much they will mess it up_
yeah same
What exactly did they mess up in windows 11?
@@propersod2390 read my comment above. it shall show up when u sort the comments by newest first now.
@@propersod2390 For me, the animation thing is a gamebreaker. Having to wait for the right click menu to appear before I can interact with it breaks workflow. I should not have to slow my inputs purely because the OS wants to look fancy
@@Jonen560ti are u serious rn? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Right clicking taskbar, windows icon, desktop and apps on the desktop for me are all instant. Or is 0.1 seconds of an animation too much for u?
That point about people tolerating Windows after Windows 7 instead of craving it like we used to really resonated with me, now I realise why I'm not so excited by Windows as much these days. Thanks for throwing light on that! :)
Yeah, I actually looked forward to new versions of Windows until after seven. In fact, I had so many problems with Windows XP that I went looking for an alternative, not knowing if one existed, and learned about Linux. But even that didn't stop me from being excited to try the newest Windows versions when they came out. Vista hit me hard, but Windows 7 was the best Windows OS to date. It has only gone down from there. I did help some people get their free upgrade to Windows ten, but then I also helped some of them downgrade because of Windows 10 problems right at the beginning.
@@SuperDavidEF Hmm interesting, I used XP from 2009 up until 2012/2013 as my daily OS, and had very few problems with it. Although within that time I think there was a window of time where I was using Windows 7, and that was the best thing ever when I first used it, I never used Vista that much but never had any issues with it. I only upgraded from Windows 7 due to the EOL, same with my dad. I showed him the Windows 11 default wallpaper and he said it looked like someone scrunched up some blue serviettes and took a photo
When the news published about Windows 11, my first thought was "WTF? Mmm, let see how this will work in my machines." Turns out, Windows 11 will not work with those system requirements. Sad, very sad.
Yeah after 7 I just didn’t care much anymore. And it’s true I just started tolerating how bad it was after 7.
@@sithnamqus Yeah it is, very... My 4th gen Intel system won't run it either... Disgraceful as Chris says...
I miss Windows 7... it felt faster, less cluttered and didn't have as much unnecessary "fluff" as Windows 8, 10 and especially 11.
Got to agree, 7 was actually a decent release. While XP was one of the better releases (once you got all the SPs installed), I actually miss 98 SE; 95 was a giant turd and never really ready for prime-time. 98 was substantially more stable and still relatively light to run. Things went to pot once they decided to write their OS using .NET instead of native C/C++; it has been a slow beast ever since, requiring more and more resources to run "comfortably". Win 10 was substantially better than 8 in that regard, but still too heavy for my taste.
taskbar sacrifices functionality for looks. which is dumb
Tweaked Win 10 runs better than tweaked Win 7.
Me too.
@@basshead. let us give credit where it is due. Win 10 at least later versions have better running abilities and control if one knows regedit and PowerShell to perfection...all due to a pseudo Linux kernel. The garbage is still a plenty but stuffed under the bed and into the closet, so to speak.
The requirement of having an account and registering the OS online was what initially made me migrate to Mac and later to linux for my new systems.
"Continues to take us down the path of an operating system being a service, rather than a basic utility." You nailed it.
taskbar sacrifices functionality for looks. which is dumb
Do you not always have to sign in to Mac OS?
@@stocothedude well work made you use mac.... and what is stopping you for using mac os then?
@@CuanPrince We are not speaking of logging into a user account on a computer. We are talking about activating the OS. Windows requires an online activation for you to use the operating system. You have to have an account and internet access to use the operating system. Back in the day, to purchase an OS you bought disks and got a key, this meant you owned the OS. Not this way with Windows anymore. Mac and Linux (obviously) do not require online activation.
@@nemocheerio ah ok, I am with you....yeah Windows wants to take 2 steps forward and 10 steps back...clowns.
Tolerate rather than crave. Such good writing. Windows 7 was so "Craveable" in its day.
Yah, everyone loved windows Vista service pack 4.
I tolerated Windows 2000 and XP reasonably well, but really hated having to tolerate anything thereafter, including Windows Vista, 7 (in my opinion even worse than Vista from a user interface point of view even if less unstable), and 10 (fortunately managed to get away with not having to touch Windows 8 except for a few minutes of morbid curiosity).
so you mean windows vista but just on better hardware lmao
@@ShaunBaaSheep Nah, my opinion hasn't changed much since w7's release. Pretty much everything that made w7 great was already present in Vista.
I don't crave Windows 7. I use it. Call me crazy.
"for many people (...) Windows is now something they tolerate, rather than crave" - Well said. This is going to be my quote of the month. Couldn't agree more.
It's just a
"Folks, please harm the climate and environment and buy brand new hardware to inflationary prices, because we have now WINDOWS 11."
It has always been that... :) I've only used 3.1, 98, XP, Vista, 8, and 10 but none of them have been what you'd call slick or nice to use.
Windows 8 was probably the most infuriating -- on my laptop/tablet it wouldn't even render colours the same way in Metro UI/tablet mode vs the desktop mode, making the transition very jarring -- especially when it would constantly jump back and forth between the two in some of the settings dialogs for instance. There were settings screens that would ultimately send you to the older "Mouse Settings" dialogs or the like that were, of course, still there under the new coat of paint... So why not just let me load up the "Control Panel" and go there in the first place!
TassieLorenzo Windows 8 was a dream compared to the shit show that was Vista
My toleration for anything MS waned the morning I woke up and found Windows 10 installed on my Windows 7 system without my express permission. I got my system restored from backup for a few programs that are not found in the Linux world, or not as tolerable or polished. But made the conscious decision to completely move to Linux as of that time. I have been using Linux Mint since, with the exception of my flight sim cockpit/VR system. I do not regret my choice in the least and my skill set with Linux has vastly improved..
cause they have not yet tried linux , which is a way worse os
I love the way your calm, cool, laidback style has been so consistent and blitzed the other 'hip' tech channels! keep it up mate!
3:10 "The Edge browser - someone has to use it, might as well be Microsoft"
- Christopher Barnatt
😁
Pure magic in that word-smithing
@@paulstubbs7678 It shouldn't have made me chuckle, but it did haha
Yeah, I lol'd hard at that one.
Perfect ! I did almost spit my rum and coke all over the sofa when he said that :)
@Cosmo Kramer I've never seen him that angry before !
Great Video. They clearly didn't learn from Vista & 8 - what the user reaction was regarding UI changes.
Vista didn't change UI much. It just lagged in performance.
it's a shame because at its core windows 8 actually wasn't too bad, if they just got rid of the tiling UI for PC's it would've had way better reception.
Vista over XP's UI, it looks more modern than the Fischer Price UI.
Windows 8 I don't mind the live tiles and since Vista intro'ed the Search function, I don't even use the Start Menu at all.
@@monkeyzuul7808 it served as a testbed for the best windows OS, windows 7
Simply making UI changes optional would improve a lot.
The operating system ought to be a configurable, consistent interface between the user and the programs they want to run.
Not an interactive, distracting, overbearing, interfering mess that morphs itself every six months and needs constant taming to stop it getting in the way.
Nailed it. Microsoft seems to be under the impression that the only reason we turn on our computers is to play with Windows.
Combine this great OS with Office 360, and you have a 3x $$ Chromebook. OMG!
EXACTLY
I think Chris makes this precise point when saying Windows is more akin to a service rather than an operating system.
This is happening in Apple world already forcing me to stay on Mojave
Can we all at least thank Chris for taking a hit for the team.
i like his tuts and hes very honest , its rare indeed
i have used many linux flavours and bsds ...but win ten is the most gawds damn annoying sack a crap ever....
this win 11 no thanks
I'm sure the microsoft fanboys will be here any minute to call him a boomer. lol
@@Tall_Order
how so , hes 100% right since win 7 ms has gona to shit...real shit not its regualr shit , but even looks like shit...win 11 looks like they are trying to rip off linux
@@chronosschiron I'm actually on your side here, so please dont expect me to have to explain the mentality of a microsoft fanboy. I'm just saying that the diehard fanboys will dismiss everything he said as "some boomer" because fanboys are blind.
@@chronosschiron On the exact day that MS stopped supporting Win7, I switched to Linux and have not looked back.
I was waiting for a long time for Chris' take on Windows 11.
I thought about it a bit! :)
@@ExplainingComputers Fair thoughts.
Me too!
Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake was my first distro.. 2006. That's how long I have been using Linux as my daily OS....
@@5argetech56 It's my daily bread and butter since Yggdrasil. (Linux Counter 3406)
When they launched the windows 10 and said it would be the last windows version ever, I immediately doubted it. I was so right
It's official: you're off the Microsoft Christmas card list! Thanks for this ruthlessly honest analysis.
Ha ! Ha ! Ha ! very good.
I'm very happy for the new restrictive OS requirements, as it will give a wider boost for Linux adaptation .
taskbar sacrifices functionality for looks. which is dumb
Yeah, never going to happen but keep dreaming buddy
I would rather keep going on win10 other than moving to Linux or other platforms
You might think... but when I turned on my trusted module in the UEFI in preparation for a dual boot like always... now Garunda linux will not load. It's based on Arch so maybe other distros might play well but as it is now I'm forced to choose between the two... and as someone who needs the Adobe creative cloud for career reasons...
It runs on just about anything, it’s literally windows 10 21h2 with features
Windows 10 was the last straw for me. Ads on the start menu, ads on the lockscreen, ads on the taskbar (that "news" and weather panel no one asked for), dark patterns to force Microsoft accounts and services on you, so on so forth. Although I was lucky enough to avoid it thanks to knowing how to disable all of that garbage, 95% of Windows users just deal with it because they don't know they even can disable it. I upgraded to Linux earlier this year when I'd finally had enough, definitely not looking back no matter how pretty Windows 11 looks.
Right-click Taskbar > News and interests > Turn off
@@franksierow5792 THANK YOU!! 👍👍👍
Bloody things been bugging me for ages! 😀
If you think the Windows 11 looks pretty and you're using Linux, then you can already use the WIndows 11 desktop there. It's called KDE Plasma lol. Microsoft always uses various Linux Desktops as the source of their 'improvements'.
@@nunyobiznez875 I'm already using Fedora's KDE spin :) In truth I've been playing with Linux off-and-on for about 9 years, but this is the first year I've actually really properly *used* it as a daily driver. It's amazing how far it's come since 9 years ago.
@@babyboomertwerkteam5662 I've been using Linux (SUSE) as my primary OS for over 18 years now, though I've always also at least maintained a Windows system as well, even when it's gone largely unused. But Windows has gone so far down the wrong path, and Linux has progressed so far in the right direction, after support for Win 10 ends, my use of WIndows will likely end there as well. I'm not planning to use Win 11 at all.
You are right that the progress Linux has made in the last decade has been amazing. But it's still dwarfed compared to the progress it made in the decades prior to that. I only wish I had begun using Linux in the early 90s, when it first began. It was still the wild west days when I did finally start using it at kernel 2.4 in the early 2000s, but it had already made a lot of progress by that point in time and was already fairly mature by then. I do feel a little like I missed out on being able to watch it develop from the very beginning.
He says his enthusiasm for any new version of Windows has waned. every time I hear a new version of Windows announced I get a distinct feeling of anxiety!!
Me too. When I first heard that windows 11 is coming, I was like "wait, what? Why?"
I am one of the proud people who never updated from Windows 7 to Windows 10 on my laptop even though it was free, and they kept pestering me with pop-up ads for months. (Now, I mostly use Windows 10 on another computer, and it's a Ryzen first gen, but even if I can get Windows 11, I'll stay with Windows 10.)
@@Rationalific That was a mistake. even if you were skeptical about windows 10 at first, it was still worth upgrading just so that you can claim the license. Turns out Windows 10 eventually became the best windows Microsoft has ever created, and its security was good enough that you could actually get away with running windows 10 without an AV.
When windows 11 drops, I'll still upgrade even if its just for the free license.
Right? Though my situation is very uncommon as a user--I'm a digital painter and the graphic tablet I most prefer is very old and so is my favorite art program. I have to hope Microsoft continues to support these drivers and programs that were built for Windows XP. They work just fine on Windows 10, but every upgrade intimidates me with the idea that I won't have access to the tools I work most efficiently with. Sure, I could buy newer tools, but do traditional painters need to throw out all their brushes and send their entire workstation to the landfill because a company decided their workflow is too old? These are the tools of my craft and I work well with them.
I do have newer software for art that I sometimes use as well, but my tablet is non-negotiable and I can't work comfortably in the newer software. Why should I be forced into a new workflow for no reason? It won't improve my artwork. It slows down my productivity as I adapt. Just to have new things for the sake of novelty?
Any upgrade for a consumer should provide them with benefits and if they need to sacrifice, it should be to fix an issue that is so dire it's worth the loss. The only issue I see here is that the culture around digital technology demands that we constantly change our tools when other kinds of artists are allowed to use the same tools for decades towards mastery.
I can't imagine Microsoft is thinking hard about users like me when they create new OSs, but they have supported backwards compatibility well enough up to this point. If anything I can just dual-boot and have a work station frozen in time while the rest of my digital life progresses. But it's certainly weird as a consumer that I'm even in this position
Steam's progress on their Proton Windows compatibility layer for Linux should make the next few years very interesting.
I suspect the Steam Deck will create a lot of Linux converts.
As soon as I am able to run all of my game library on any linux distro, I am ditching windows for good without even have a second thought.
@@dmytro.d You're certainly are not alone in thinking that. A lot of people are eagerly awaiting what happens with Proton.
It would be awesome if this really picked up.
I remember when Microsoft promised that Windows 10 would be the last ever major iteration of Windows and no new versions would be released, just updates and patches. They have already ensured I won't install Windows 11 on any PC, Linux, here I come.
same, for the most time i am using win10 for most things like projects, games, movies and so on, but some time ago i notice that every few weeks windows started download some bullshit updates that cost me around 2-3gb of disk space every time... in one of these updates was added "news" to taskbar and these news was related to america even i am living in ukraine, ofcource you could turn off this feature but why they force every user to download this?
Absolutely
Good luck with that. The reason so many people tolerate WIndows is that it's easier to live with than Linux. While I use both i dont recommend Linux to the average PC user.
I bought a now unsupported PC with Windows 10 in 2017 when they still said Windows 10 would be the last version. If I was in America I'd look into my options for a lawsuit. They have gone too far this time.
Linux is much worse. Just stick with windows 10 if your system is not supported for windows 11. Windows 10 will still get updates and features until 2025 iirc.
Linux is great for specialized use-cases, not for ordinary home users.
This show feels like it should have been on daytime BBC2 in 1987. And that's why I love it.
"my enthusiasm for new Windows operating systems has waned"
A serious understatement. I've done enterprise deployments of every one since Windows 3.1. We used to get all excited about new features..... now, it's just mild amusement wondering what they were thinking when they decide to hide those amazing features from the previous release.
I'm happy to be in the Linux ecosystem, where we get exciting news every week or so.
Your question is easily answered: "Let's see how many ways we can screw our customers. And how much money we can make for essentially DOING NOTHING USEFUL!"
@@jamesmccarte1609 lol, it wasn't a question. I know why they do it. Can't complain too much though.... they've kept me well employed for several decades.
@@sparkeyjones6261 Watch out. They came out with a cloud pc that can run on chromebooks among other devices.
@@MrR40388 Yeah, we've been talking about that for over 20 years ;)
Not worried, I'll manage the cloud services. Haven't had much to do with physical desktops in quite a long time.
Oh dear ! This looks like chronically bad timing on Microsoft's part. A restrictive OS at a time when the (unrestricted) alternatives are becoming more numerous and viable. Hardware prices, particularly for high spec machines being through the roof, prompting myself and I'm sure plenty of others to hold on to existing hardware, and the potential carbon footprint of replacing millions of computers at a time when climate change is at the forefront of people's consciousness.
Have Microsoft just shot themselves in the foot or have they blown it clean off ?
It's called an agenda.
Looks like Microsoft hasn't learned much form the Windows 8 disaster anyway
@@truthwillout1980 Yes, I understand that because I know that for many years the introduction of a new OS has had more to do with Microsoft's cash flow projections than actual user need or demand.
I appreciate that the timescale for introducing a new OS may demand they do it now, and that it's been planned for some time, but I'm wondering what effect the factors I mentioned (which are outside their control) may have on their agenda ?
Personally, and because of the demands it makes, I don't see where Windows 11 fits into my life. My wife has been using Linux full-time and very successfully for over a year now, and I have only one remaining (dual boot) computer that runs Windows 10, the rest having been Linux only for some time. Only a slight adjustment (at no expense) will be needed to say goodbye to Microsoft forever, so why should I ditch perfectly good hardware to move to an OS I don't want ?
@SnappyJon 2nd-hand market indeed ... lots of perfectly good Linux systems waiting to be installed and that will run til the cows come home.
Microsoft are not shooting themselves in the foot. They aim higher… somewhere around the balls.
Lots of cheap, or free, computers available for Linux users in a few years time :). I just need to keep my existing hardware going while I wait for the opportunity to upgrade!
Now this is a very good point indeed.
Nice of the people at Microsoft to give the competition a sporting chance like that
Indeed. Even an old Sandy bridge like the i5 2500K which served for so long is still a pretty nice office machine. So no reason to throw it in the bin. Just give it another life with Linux.
Why wait? Switch now.
@@ChrisM243 i5 seems quite exotic to me! My most powerful machine is only an i3!
Fair assessment. Not a very green initiative. Maybe this will indeed be a great opportunity to expand user base of Linux distributions.
Seems to be a Chimera of an OS, part KDE, part macOS with Windows holding it up.... and intentionally hostile too, so it's a no to this little beastie.
Now, I need to use some eye cleanser....
yeah, if only I could remember were I placed the purple soap after the first video talking of this
Indeed, and with none of the features that make any of those appealing. None of the consistent design of macOS, none of the super-customisability of KDE, and none of the features that made older version of Windows, like Windows 7, actually nice to use. Windows 7 was the last good version of Windows. It looked nice, it worked well, and Microsoft knew that so they killed it early by introducing that rubbish artificial CPU ceiling trying to block Windows 7 running on newer CPUs since 2016.
My first thought was that they got "inspired" by ChromeOS.
@Tano KDE is a "clone" of Windows... no siree you got that the wrong way around! Many features that would show up on the Windows desktop were in KDE quite some time beforehand. Lol. Look at the first version of KDE from 1996 with those big icons on the panel (taskbar). Took until 2009 for Windows to get that :P
@@babyboomertwerkteam5662 KDE takes a lot of UI influences from windows and Mac designs but has also been an influencer in and of itself at times.
I would suggest that about any UI would need to take advantage of popular trends to varying degrees to stay relevant.
*_"This is at best an absolute disgrace"_* - 5:30 LOL! Love it when Chris gets mad! :-)
Forsoooth! Perfect brit accent.
*"MELTDOWN, SPECTOR"*
Elmer, you are a cold, mean man!
😹
But, was he right? For my understanding it works like this: any intel 8th gen cpu or newer and any AMD second gen Ryzen or newer will support the OS for sure. In case the pc does not have one of those CPUs than it must have a TPM 2.0 chip, the presence of the chip depends on computer or motherboard model. For example my desktop with I7 6700K and an ASUS Z170 will support W11
@@mastroitek black market TPM 2.0 "emulators" from Taiwan might be hot items, unless China invades Taiwan. After that, I hesitate to speculate.
Bought a laptop open box yesterday with windows 10s with free upgrade to 11. Erased ssd and loaded linuxmint 20.2 now I have a laptop with everything I'll need for the coming future.
Windows 10S? Sounds like you bought a super low-end computer
Nice 😂
Excellent choice. Mint is pretty good, but i still faile to learn how to install apps there the right way.
@@Raylightsen lol
Just a pity you cannot on sell the Windows 10 that you have paid for, but do not want - Microsoft should be shot for that one.
I wish you had been my professor 20+ years ago, when I was studying IT. Your delivery is clear, crisp, succinct, and engaging.
I'm so glad I switched over to Linux to avoid this stupidity. I've been running Linux Mint Cinnamon on a 9 year old laptop for the last month to take care of my daily computer needs to see how it can handle it and it's running like a champ.
Feels like a Windows 8 step. Will wait for the corrected version !
@pk5l ouip so you are saying to wait until 12 comes out?😂
@pk5l ouip most anticipated feature they said is ms store support android apps using msix format... If they fail to implement that properly then its a waste of a decade...
Feels like ME#3
Sounds like it will be a Vista repeat....they finally had to change the name to windows 7
yeah my 1st pc came with windows 8 and when i updated to windows 10 i enjoyed it much more but then things stopped working. i think it was too much for it
In my opinion, Windows 11 will be something like Windows 8 And Vista; a update most people will skip, and keep the previous version.
I will got a laptop at the tail end of Vista. It was fine and died four later. I replaced that Vista machine in late 2012 with a clearance Win 7 laptop. I got a Win 10 machine about 2.5 years ago as Win 7 was being phased out.
If if I get a Win 10 machine, it will be because I must.
Knowing Microsoft, installing any Linux Distro on an OEM Win 11 machine will be made difficult . Much of The Win 11 OS security features will make any non OEM OS locked out.
@@edalder2000 That won't happen, because MS has already fallen foul of the rules before. MS simply cannot stop third party hardware manufacturers from allowing alternatives to Win 11. If the manufacturers themselves decide to limit choice, people would ultimately vote with their wallets. Most PC manufacturers can't afford to risk losing customers in today's crowded market.
taskbar sacrifices functionality for looks. which is dumb
@@another3997 that being said MS is enabling defaults that limit choice. Such as forcing secure boot.
@@another3997 Specifically x86, but ARM is catching up, and ARMs are locked (hence why we have to go through so much to "jailbreak" a mobile device).
So they just don't care about Fitt's Law anymore?
"The corners of the screen are very valuable, because users can target them with very little effort. You just slam the mouse in the direction you want, and the cursor goes into the corner. And since closing a window is a much more common operation than minimizing, maximizing, and restoring it, it seems a natural choice to give the close button the preferred location.
Besides, maximizing and restoring a window already have very large targets, namely the entire caption. You can double-click the caption to maximize, and double-click again to restore. The restore even gets you a little bit of Fitt’s Law action because the top of the screen makes the height of the caption bar effectively infinite."
All mouse-based GUIs are inherently diffucult anyway, akthough easer, of course, than touch-based ones for people with normal motoric skills. Once people learn go use the command line and keyboard they rarely go for the mouse save for unusual tasks. It is much easier to tell the computer what one wants it to do than it is for one to do it oneself through mouse moves, clicks, and visual parsing of multiple infirmation-loaded heterogeneous views. GUIs are cognitively surpirisingly taxing.
@@mechantl0up I grew up on the command line. DOS 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 4, 4.01, 5, 6. But then the GUI was invented. I'm not going back to the dark ages. If that don't create a GUI, then they have failed as software developers.
It's almost like Microsoft want people to switch to Linux.
u know, they have this sub system for linux, WSL, i wonder why they did this, and since valve has the steamdeck, probably more devs will develop for linux too
I've been using Linux for years now and never looked back
@Stacey Ayodele get a Lenovo T430 the same as me with an i5 it is fast and now on Linux even faster
This and trying to make working a legal installation of Microsoft Office that was imposible to do, are the final nails in the coffin for me. I'm looking to installing Linux Mint for my normal daily use, and keep Windows only for gaming. The annoyances are now too much to handle for me.
Let's switch to the penguing for good.
I've used Linux for longer than I have Windows. 8 years ago when I was *12* years old I switched to Linux because my PC at the time performed horrifically in Windows 7. If a 12 year old can figure it out when Linux was early enough on that it was almost *guarenteed* your wifi wouldn't work then the *it's too hard* excuse doesn't exist. Never looked back even though I don't have that PC anymore.
Finally, a youtuber that actually fully explains one of the easy bypass methods without expecting you to know how to open the command prompt
I love your explainings, so simple, so clearly and so understandable. Thank you.
thanks microsoft, you've finally given me a good reason to switch over to linux fully
Big corporations always end up in such a situation once the founders hand over to new, professional management that cares more about the bottom line and less about the organisation's future. It's also happening at Boeing and other big companies. The passion for excellence simply vanishes.
Windows 8/8.1 was the beginning of the end in my mind for Microsoft. By the time Windows 10 had released, I'd made up my mind that I was done with Microsoft and consequently moved over to Linux. I've been using it ever since and can honestly say I truly enjoy it. I have a couple offline Windows boxes for offline gaming, though gaming through VM's on Linux is getting easier by the day. Windows 11 basically just reinforces all the reasons I felt Microsoft was going down the wrong path clear back in the 8/8.1 days and highlights further why I have absolutely no interest in supporting or recommending the platform to ANYONE until Satya Nadella (current CEO of Microsoft) is out of the company, and someone with both competence, as well as any level of self awareness towards the users takes control over the company once more. Thus allowing the company to produce products that ACTUALLY do what the users want and demand, verses Microsoft's current strategy of simply trying to FORCE people into adapting to whatever standard Microsoft is trying to set. Until that day comes, Microsoft is a product of a by-gone era in my mind, and Linux is the way forward. Opinions may vary, but that's what I have to say about it.
Have used Zorin 16 for one day, enjoyed it so far.
My pc still uses windows 7 but have upgraded to macos since Apple and Linux at least focus on making their computer os computer os unlike Microsoft making it for tablets.
We can forgive Microsoft, b/c it was expected from them to slowly turn the volume up for anti-features in their O/S.
As the frog gets used to the increasing temperature of the water, it will not notice when the water is boiling and it is killed.
I'm a happy Linux user since the turn of the Millenium and I'm only running Windows in VMs for work purposes.
When you consider how much e waste this is going to generate it makes you wonder if Microsoft is ethical at all. However all those amazing CPUs and laptops you can buy cheap when this is forced is going to be unreal.
But those cheap laptops will have an operating system that is only supported until 2025. Thank you, Microsoft.
@@HereInPA_Hagen yes thank you Microsoft as 6700hq laptop to run Linux yes please. 🥳🥳🥳🥳. Prices are stupid for old stuff right now. Some of the Linux builds I see are so old tech it's stupid. A guy was trying to put puppy on a p4 system think oh cool. Hopefully if all this old tech looses value we can reap some rewards and Linux finally makes a decent GUI experience
I don't have to wonder "if" Microsoft is ethical.
Finally some common sense information about Windows 11...
Thank you very much Sir Christopher :)
You're welcome!
Bonjour Chris, Using twisterOS on my RPi with the Windows 11 interface works just fine for me. The only thing I wish is an accelerated Graphics chip for the RPi. You're review of Windows 11 is spot on and maybe Microsoft will be attentive to a well respected technical commentator.
As a home PC user with simple needs, I gave up dual booting Windows and Linux after Windows 7. I now use Linux solely for my home PC for the past 5 years. I have used several flavours/distros of Linux. My personal Subjective preference is OpenSuse Leap 15.2 KDE. i Stress that it is due to a Subjective choice on my part as there are many excellent Linux Distros apart from Suse. Many Thanks
Cool keep rocking!
Chris,
First, thank you for yet another informative and enjoyable video. I always appreciate your take on things.
Second, I want to point out that your videos have become a valuable on-line resource for me. I am putting together a Pi based NAS using Open Media Vault. Your videos on the topic have given me faith that I can successfully do this w/o a bunch of frustration. I have also reviewed your videos on microSD cards to select one to hold the OS long term and your video on SSDs. For a recent project to move videos to my store bought NAS, your video on codecs and containers was one of the first resources I drew upon. With your videos I do not have to contend with a bouncy, over eager presenter spouting stuff a mile a minute. Instead, I get well paced, concise and thoughtful information that I can use. So, again, thanks for all of your hard work. It is much appreciated.
"...my enthusiasm for any version of windows has waned..."
I could not have said it better Chris.
Thank you for the review of Windows 11. I have decided to abandon the Windows OS after using versions of it for over 15 years. My next computer will run nothing but Linux. I am searching for your Linux review videos right after this comment. I look forward to your next video.
I kind of like the Mac operating system, although what operating system I'm on doesn't matter much after I get the applications open.
Definitely considering either Linux or MacOS once Windows 10 support ends on my laptop. Only reason I stick to Windows is because my work Apps and programs only work with Windows.
MacOS is a lot more appealing now that the M1 is a thing and the M1 macbook air has been seeing heavy discounts lately. Might just make the jump once I can get a console for my gaming needs since I still do lots of gaming on my Windows machine.
The only reason why is stick with windows ,is Microsoft money .Been using for years probably no need for it these days ,but so used to using it
@@zen608 Yeah. I might just get an M1 Mac Mini or the next Apple Silicon Mac Mini once Windows 10 support ends on my laptop. Already have a tablet for mobility so I probably won't need a desktop OS except for desktop apps.
@@LOTPOR0402 the only reason I use Windows is because our office software needs Windows. Otherwise, I would've migrated to MacOS or Linux already.
@@zen608 where's the discount? I see the prices haven't changed.
What a convoluted mess
Windows 8 made me a Linux user
The best thing Microsoft has ever done to me
Welcome aboard the HMS LiNuX, sir! Me am user of Ubuntu ( Debian ) since August 2008, and now run Debian straight-forward on various machines. Best route so far!
What linux distro you are using and why? Im thinkink about switching
@@ciongutkhan8470 I'm a month late, but if you are just dipping your toes from Windows, I'd say Zorin OS is a great distro for beginners. This is where I am right now.
@@khango6138 im not really a begginer, but still I cant definitely say why use one distro and not the other out of SO many distros
The best thing about Windows 11 is that I'll have convincing grounds to get a couple more laptops moved over to Linux when support for Windows 10 ends. Very nice indeed. I just hope wireless display functionality (e.g. Miracast) in Linux is supported by then.
I have been moving away from Windows for over a year. Your videos explains why. I currently dual boot between Linux and Windows. Linux is the default. There are still some things I have not figured out how to do in Linux, but I am working on it.
I totally agree, regarding hardware "requirements", the term "Shameful" is the most respectful word we can use.
I recommend that:
Software Vendors: Improve / invest in linux ports / releases.
Linux Distros: Improve / invest in UX, education, support and publicity. In fact we already have a lot of it.
Final users: Try using a linux flavor. Yes, it's easy, beautiful, fast, reliable, and give us the freedom we deserve.
@@jkeelsnc This is one of the best comments I've seen on this so far. I'm a huge fan of Linux, and have used it for awhile. I used Windows 10 for a long time, then switched to linux, and back to Windows 10. Linux is not a great Operating System for creative people. Like you mentioned, the Adobe Suite is missing, then there's things like music programs (fl studio, ableton), then there's construction programs (Revit, AutoCAD, Navisworks), then there's Oracle compatibility with things like SQLDeveloper (which I'm using for SQL programming and school, and I know MySQL works great on it), then there's android compatibility, even microsoft is realizing and is using the amazon store which sucks compared to google play, and this part REALLY matters this day in age. Then 3D animation software (Blendr doesn't cut it for some). Gaming is also huge.
I think we might need to shift our gears into making Android phones and tablets more compatible with this kind of stuff. Android could easily become a full fledged desktop environment, and there's a lot of huge push from companies like Samsung who've created Samsung Dex (which is amazing and something I use a lot). Plus, Android is already built from a Linux framework and gives the user a lot of freedom that's really understated (especially with programs like Termux, and the ability to literally install a full-fledged linux distro on top of your android phone with very little compatibility issues). Phones are starting to become very fast. I think it's important we bridge this gap, and once and for all wipe windows off the market. Make Android compatible with legacy computers and desktops, and BOOM, microsoft has some steep competition.
I switched to linux mint on some of my PCs a year ago. It still takes some time getting used to it sometimes, but I never looked back. Need one win10 pc for some simulation programs though
@@jkeelsnc I don’t know if I’m 100% behind your idea that “there should be only ONE”. That’s the idea driving Microsoft’s whole attitude.
Personally, I like variety. It just needs to be variety that works. So, not necessarily ONE, but compatible. I could work with that.
@@jkeelsnc So, how is that different from MS?
@@jkeelsnc The Adobe Creative Suite workflow is indeed important to many people and industries. As a home user, I have successfully moved all my image editing and video editing needs to GIMP and DaVinci Resolve (the latter of which is often used by many serious and enthusiast filmmakers over Premiere). However, my anecdotal experience here is not the same as stating it is possible to switch, even if functional equivalence is the same (which I am sure it is not in fringe cases), because people and businesses have existing assets, existing skills, existing plugins, and existing deadlines all built around their current hardware and software. I'm not even promoting GIMP, just using it as a proxy image editing software for any home users that want to cut the cord with Adobe (and by extension, Microsoft) dependence. And yes, DaVinci Resolve has a Linux version (at least according to their website).
Even without the hardware restrictions (none of my current windows 10pcs will run windows 11) I have yet to see anything that would want to make me upgrade.
I’m sure once this information hits mainstream and the public realizes how much ewaste will be generated by these hardware constraints Microsoft will be forced to backpedal on these requirements.
@@jba2048 nah the point is they will be shameful enough to let these laptops go to the landfills
But, look, shiny new graphics!!
Just throw away your perfectly functioning hardware and buy a new PC, and you too can enjoy new bitmaps and having a menu moved slightly to the right.
@Boodysaspie nope. Linux. As a unix sysadmin it’ll give me the push to ditch Microsoft altogether.
Windows 7 has the best user interface in my opinion.
I am still using it. Windows support is not worth anything anyway. Just try phoning them with a problem. I did once and was given my own tel no to phone!
By far my favorite OS
Have you seen XP 2021?
@@matthiasausfrankfurt ??
nothing like it.Awesome.. my i3 2nd gen laptop with windows 7 runs much much faster than my windows 10 with 8thgen i5 processor(SATA hard drive)
"The Edge browser. Someone's got to use it; might as well be Microsoft". What an eloquent and economical condemnatiomn. So much said with so little! :-)*
I was going to mention that. Laugh out loud moment. 🤣😂🤣
as soon as i got 10 I installed another browser.
@@sheilaolfieway1885 So, you installed Chrome? If so, that sure stuck it to the man.
Actually, I've used Edge several times... to download Firefox
@@sheilaolfieway1885 And how is that working for you seeing that they are equally as bad as each other in their own way!
The release of windows 11 is great imo. By releasing an even more closed OS in a time that OS's such as linux becomes a more viable option means that (depending on the development like steams compatibility fixes for their games on the Linux kernel among other developments) this could encourage many more people into moving to Linux and expose the need for more and better open source software, drivers and support.
If people move to Lennox it's not going to move to a more open environment. In the fact most likely it will move to a more closed environment. Fact of the matter is the end user does not wanna deal with Open Source shit, they just wanna run the application, for better or for worse. OS is not gonna be encouraged, the ecosystem will be as bad as windows in OS programs with the OS fanatics having extremely little say into the ecosystem.
@@donovan6320 Linux already is an open environment by nature and will remain that way regardless of future user adoption. I believe that by (windows) closing itself off more and providing less freedom to its users will most likely encourage people who DO care about having freedom of choice to move to Linux and/or at least encourage more attention be paid to free alternatives of some of Microsofts price gouged products. Open source simply provides an alternative for those who want more and (in many cases) better options.
I think a lot of people stayed with windows for the main reason being that it was one of very few viable options, which isn't the case now, the average person most likely would prefer to use the hardware they have currently and don't want to switch to more expensive systems to accommodate an OS that provides little to no benefits and treks down a path with a model focused on selling more products rather than functionality. I do not believe mass adoption of windows 11 will work with the required hardware configurations needed.
@@kingofbubbles6220 The end user wants a computer that turns on and boots up office. They want everything to be plugged in play. They want a nice giy and be able to double click on an executable to install whatever app nl matter how insecure it may be. They don't care about updates or security, or app stores on PC and dispise terminal apps. To them those are the IT guys job. Power users, system administrators, etc are thr only ones who care
For me I won't be switching anytime soon because visual studio is still the best .net code editor (I hate VS Code especially on multiproject solutions) and no office suite loads and saves .docx, .ppx, .xlsx etc reliably. Windows for me is the only choice.
@@donovan6320 My point is that Linux becomes a better option every day. I don't believe there's gonna be mass migration over to Linux, I believe adoption of windows 11 will be slow at best as "the end user" also doesn't want to buy completely new hardware (in a time where PC costs are through the roof) to accommodate a new mediocre OS. I still believe the average person most likely doesn't care about privacy and functionality, I think those who *do* care about it will probably be put off by Microsofts shifting standards.
Edit: And terminal know-how is not as big of a requirement as it used to be, Linux has terminal functionality, just like how windows has terminal functionality.
@@kingofbubbles6220 It may not be a requirement but when every tutorial suggests it then it looks like it. Also that they would rather work in an environment that's familiar. Don't give them a .exe analog they are out. Microsoft isn't shifting any standards There are Enforcing standards they've required to be on every window certified PC for past 6 years. The only new thing is the cpu requirements. That still leaves even on 7th gen pcs some 8 years or so of life and most people upgrade every 5 years. There is no problem to the end user.
I agree with this video wholeheartedly. The reason I am not excited is because there is no vision anymore. W11 largely looks the same but with a huge hassle to comply with the many rules. Just imagine if Microsoft released a new MSPaint that supported layers or a new fully-featured video editor. That would make a difference, but they want to push everyone into the cloud. If MS doesn't watch out, someone else will create a more popular OS soon!
hmmm linux may take off
The last time I got excited about an operating system was when I changed from CP/M to DOS 3.3 - First version to support 3.5-inch, 1.44 MB floppy drives and diskettes, extended and logical partitions, directory tree copying with XCOPY.
09:59 And how can anyone believe that statement after what Microsoft lying about Windows 10 being its very last definitive version of its operating system?
@@apefish2266 linux lacks a bazillion features and lack-of interactibility that makes it so only tech-savvy people can use it. It's far from overtaking Windows, as the majority of the users have no idea what's even an OS.
@@Lucas-jb8ce Linux is like a tool by engineers for engineers depending on how you it's a plus and a minus.
CB on the Edge browser: "Someone has to use it; might as well be Microsoft."
This is classic British sarcasm from CB.
yeah lol
I think Edge (Chromium) is a great browser myself - even use it on macos
@@rossgeography It's legit better than Chrome in every way possible.
@@DreamDemonYT so edge is sutably mediocre
@@apefish2266 That doesn't make any sense but okay.
I have no intentions of changing my hardware for windows 11. I'll only change once my hardware fails..I have a lot of old hardware and it works perfectly.
Everything you have said I totally agree with Christopher. I've been a Windows user for years but maybe it's time to look at Mac or a user friendly Linux distribution. I was really passionate about all things IT once but now as I'm getting older sadly it's just a tool for everyday use. In a nutshell Microsoft has just treated users particularly those not so skilled with utter contempt. This may well backfire so maybe long overdue. Great video and extremely informative. Thanks for posting this 🙂.
Windows 7 will be my last MS OS.
Try Linux Ubuntu, it's really user friendly and you don't have to learn anything new to use it
@@KameraShy If you still have your Windows 7 installation media then:
1. Install Ubuntu. (Plus optionally Cinnamon desktop.)
2. Install Virtualbox or VMware.
3. Re-install Window 7 in a virtual machine.
I'm excited to see linux grow its market share. Also, I hope they bring the fun back from windows XP to linux. As I loved the charm in old operating systems vs the new ones which have lost that charm ever since windows 7/8.
So, just for clarity Gary,
Microsoft, requiring PART of a PC's hardware to be compatible with windows 11 is them "treating users ... with utter contempt".
And your potential answer is to go to a Mac ... where the ENTIRE computer must be apple built?
I switched to Linux Mint 1.5 years ago as my daily driver and never looked back. However, I need Windows 11 for the rest of the family as they don't want Linux (maybe my wife). Habitually, I've always had used computers for everyone to use; now I'm moving my daughters to Ryzen computers that are Windows 11 - compatible.
@Cindy SparkleFarts My daughters' computers have been replaced, one with a Ryzen 3400G system (that I had built for myself but never really used) and a Ryzen 4300G I bought for my wife but then decided to give it to my other daughter. I'm building my wife a Ryzen 3 4650G computer; the CPU should be here this coming Wednesday; I already have the other components.
I have one big question/concern! I know that linux really came a long way in the last years and now is easy to install and use, but, I'm one of those users that does not want to go and search for drivers, for compatible softwares or anything like that, I just want to tell google what program i want to download and I know that once the installer is on my PC I only have to click on it for it to work. My concern is that with some random programs I will be required (on linux) to "manually install" it. How is your experience?
I also like the syinc of the documents, user settings and favorites on edge between my laptop and desktop. Is this feature also available on linux?
@@mastroitek 1: You can use sudo apt install (for Ubuntu based distros; just add the name after the command)
2: Edge is available for Linux, but I don't know if it will sync with other devices, but it should
@@mastroitek you have a graphical installer where you can search for and install apps on Linux.
@@mastroitek Long post ahead, buy some popcorn.
Usually, you don't have to go and search for drivers. I have installed Linux Mint on a Pentium 4! The only problem seemed to be that it used to freeze at random which at the time I attributed to graphics card driver issues, but I received word from a friend that I am mistaken as it could be due to faulty connections due to the age of the computer. So, unless you have some kind of bleeding edge hardware, you are good to go. Many vendors release Linux versions of their hardware drivers anyway now.
You might have to learn some new programs, in case some program is Windows-only. It usually happens with propertiery programs, but it is getting increasingly uncommon. I am of the opinion, however, that if a program doesn't offer a Linux version, I might as well use something else if possible. As others have said, most programs are available through the distro's repositories. You can install them either through the command line or through the graphic "Software Manager" (names may vary by distro), similarly to Google Play Store. In some cases, you do have to install a program using an installer (e.g. .deb package), but it is handled through a different part of the software manager. I don't get what you mean by "manually install". In any case, programs offer installation guides detailing the process.
You use EDGE? Who are you, Microsoft (3:10)? Jokes aside, I don't know if Edge for Linux supports syncing but you can always move to Firefox, it offers great syncing capabilities and you should be able to import the current settings from Edge.
Overall, my experience with Linux has been excellent so far. I have used Linux Mint (daily driver for the rest of my family), Ubuntu (was kinda slow for my taste), Lubuntu (VM in my Windows computer to facilitate developing) and Debian (WSL and at school, both via ssh and using the GUI). I would move my computer there, probably I will do it at some point, but couldn't do it due to Webex's lack of support for a native client. I hope my analysis is useful. Tag me if you need to ask anything.
Thanks
Thanks for your support, most appreciated. :)
Transferred to Linux Mint on my main computer several years ago and couldn't be happier. Does everything I want and better than any version of Windows ever did. The interface is fully configurable so I don't have to learn a new interface every couple of years as well and hunt round for where everything is.
I run Windows 10 on a secondary computer just for one legacy program which won't run on Linux. I won't upgrade to Windows 11 and if Windows 10 is ever effectively "switched off" by Microsoft then I will looking for an alternative (i.e. non-Microsoft) solution. I worked in IT for 30 years and used to be a Microsoft fan boy but not any more. Microsoft can go and spin on it now for all I care.
I tried Linux Mint recently. It felt like something from the dark ages.
Honestly if it werent for MS office and visual studio (I hate VSCode for C#) I would lol.
Microsoft's timing for these restrictive new hardware requirements couldn't be worse. The world is struggling with CPU, GPU and most other PC hardware supplies, meaning it's going to be difficult for many people to even find new hardware. Let alone millions at once. I think that alone is going to significantly limit the adoption of Win 11.
You have till oct 2025 to upgrade.. The hardware shortage will be over by then! Its really a great thing how more secure your system will be once you upgrade. You should be thanking Microsoft.
@@northyland1157 Will it be over by then? It should have been over with by now. Moving Ethereum mining to proof-of-stake will help with GPUs, but scalpers will remain a problem until there's enough CPU supply to bring prices back down to MSRP. We can only hope these newly planned foundries will be online by 2025.
Hopefully not an immediate problem generally. This is not like on the Mac where a new OS release becomes the majority after a few months. This is Microsoft and upgrades, percentage wise, happen at a snails pace.
@@cgraham6 In the US at least, CPU prices are at MSRP and sometimes below.
@@northyland1157 It will be more securely in the hands of Microsoft, not more secure for the users. Corporations hate their customers. Remember that. They only want your money. Microsoft is the worst offender. There's no way they're doing it for you.
1:50 When one of the big changes is center-justify instead of left-justify
Indeed!
And even that is so stupid.
But is looks like Apple
@@barrieshepherd7694 You're going to make the Applesiders hurt themselves laughing... :)
Just put windows 11 on a 2011 Thinkpad and a 2016 Inspiron and it never stopped me for some reason, absolutely surprised by how well it performs, Its crazy they have these extra requirements when some old hardware is perfectly capable of running it.
So true about tolerating Win after Win7. I remember being *so* excited to install Win95 on my 486DX2-66. Win10 I only got it because Win7 support was stopped in early 2020. Now 30 years after I got my first (hand me down) PC compatible, I'm ready to totally turn my back on MS.
So what are you going to do?
@@Synthwave89 he's gonna change his OS to ligma
@@Synthwave89 Linux (Arch Linux perhaps as SteamOS is based on it). Steam and Proton gives access to games. MS Office documents, I've an Office 365 subscription via work so can open documents in a browser (Firefox or Chrome).
I actually don't like the centered menu, it looks nicer but it's impractical because the location of each icons will change everytime and it's annoying that you can't rely on your muscle memory to click on your pinned apps.
@@GodisGracious1031Ministries will we still be able to pin apps?
actually ive been using a centered taskbar on my windows 10 and i got use to it :)
Welp, I am more excited to try the recent Debian 11 myself.
Well enjoy the extremely outdated version of debian
@@pinklightninggacha to be honest it's not that outdated. For now. Plus after all, it's stable version. It's supposed not to be the bleeding edge software.
Perfect timing for debian *11*
Bye Bye Microsoft Windows, Welcome Linux
I'm pretty much done with Windows at this point. Ive got my builds on dual boot with various different linux distros at the moment, but im sure one day i will switch to Linux completely.
Do a SomeOrdinaryGamers move like I have done haha (RUclips his name along with Linux in the search) and run it under a virtual machine if you have good enough hardware or just buy an additional hard drive (can get them cheap second hand or refurbished on various websites) for Windows and only use it when you need to. Linux all the way for me though! 😁
It's *just WRONG* not having the Start button in the lower left. This means you have to *actually look* for where it is instead of just moving your mouse to the lower left. With it in the lower left corner you can start moving your mouse there before even looking to finally line it up. And actually you don't even need to line it up. If you keep moving the mouse in that direction it can't overshoot and you just need to click. You can do it without looking. Lower left corner is faster. (Unless you have a second screen on the left.)
It defaults to middle but you can turn that off and get back to having it on the left again.
@Tano - I think you miss understood my point. I'm saying you can move the mouse to the Start button in the lower left (like it has defaulted to since Windows 95 IIRC) AND click it without even looking. Your eyes can finish reading whatever while you move the mouse to the Start button without even looking. It's just faster there as you can't move the mouse past the lower left (unless you have a 2nd monitor there). Yes, it is only a second but my subconscious like to get a jump start before I'm even done reading (or whatever). Try it.
But thanks to "ThatsIsJustCrazy" above, now I know it can be moved back to where it should be.
It's not about complaining about new things but more about not changing things just to change them.
The start button position is selectable, it just defaults to centre at install.
This might be an early release or demo but what really bothers me is the advanced part requirements for an interface that looks more suited to a cheap Single Board Computer.
They did this to avoid security threats related to CPU. Also the OS probably now takes full use of newer instruction sets only available on modern CPU architectures.
while it looks like a cheap chip, it is, but has some serious crypto in it to secure the machine.
@@jayw654 And a whole lot of telemetry I'll bet.
I love how he uses strong words: Shameful, Disgrace...
The best trick the Devil played was to convince us that all previous versions are secure only to the point that there is a later release.
To some degree this is true. But earlier versions are secure until they cease to receive security patches (ie when programmers at Microsoft cease to play catch-up with the hackers).
Actually if you follow general secure practices it's very hard to catch a malware on unsupported OSes. And then there are hardening measures for older OSes to increase security without patches.
That's a true statement because once security updates stop being released then you are vulnerable to any new weaknesses that hackers find for any given OS. There are Linux distros that are far worse in this regard forcing full version upgrades in some cases on an annual basis.
@@alexxx4434 „if practice“ is the problem, sadly nobody does or cares.
It was pretty obvious to me that after Windows 7, Microsoft stop listening to its users. So a couple of years before Windows 7 reach end of support, I started to make the switch to Linux. So when Windows 7 support was dropped, I was fully using Linux as my main OS. I won't say that converting to Linux was painless but it was something I knew I had to do. I still occasionally use XP, Windows7, and Window10 but only in a Virtual Box machine under Linux. And I hardly ever spin up that Windows 10 VM. I even have two SSDs in my laptop where I can boot directly into Windows 10 or Linux. But to be honest, I have never once found a need to boot directly into Windows so that second Windows 10 SSD turned out to be a waste of money. Probably the hardest part of converting to Linux was finding replacements for the Windows programs I was using. But eventually I found Linux equivalents for the most common tasks. For those few exceptions where I have to use Windows (e.g. update the maps on my Garmin GPS), I do it from a VM instead. Even if Microsoft changed their ways and started listening to their users again, there would be no way that I would go back to Windows. Is Linux perfect?... by no means. But Linux is orders of magnitude better than Windows 10.
what linux distro are you using?
@@NowThatsAnime I am currently using Linux Mint 19.2 and in the process of switching over to Linux Mint 20.2. One of the great things about Linux is you can removed your hard drive/SSID from one computer and put it in another and you are usually off and running again. So I am building the new version on a spare laptop and plan to move it over to my production laptop when I am done. No issues with registrations and no 100 page terms and conditions you have to agree too. I am sure other Linux distributions are good too but Mint has serve my purposes well.
I feel the same way about Windows over the years. Windows 7 really was the last decent version of windows, I think it's really the Windows as a service that really makes it so awful. Hopefully more and more people will go down the Linux road, I know I will as soon as i can run the software I need on it.
How can I get into Linux?
@@aviralverma2944 You can try first install later.
Manjaro Linux KDE and an empty USB drive. Find tutorials how to create "livecd usb" or a "bootable usb"
If you dedicate a second HDD (or some partition space on your current one) then you can install it *alongside* Windows (aka dualboot)
Though I use Windows10, I still feel Windows 7 needed no, or few, upgrades. I loved it and still miss it.
Didn't you enjoy Windows 9? That was invite only.
Microsoft has been trying to push TPM for 20 years for "security", but really because it transfers control of people's system away from users and towards Microsoft. They've been turning Windows into an unusable walled-garden for a while now, but people keep bypassing restrictions, so forcing the restrictions through hardware gives them a little more control and makes it a little harder to bypass (though even hardware lock-downs don't stop people, viz the Kamikaze Xbox 360 hack!)
Kaimkaze wasnt exactly a 'little harder' you was essentially cutting 1 wire in a very crude manner and 1 mm out and you bricked your drive. Not really comparable to TPM xD
@@AurynGaming you are missing the point the guy is just pointing out the extreme lengths people will go to to bypass restrictions even if it does mean you might brick your disc drive
Goodness, if there’s gonna be a landfill of 7th gen and bellow I would SWIM to get at least ONE.
For all my life I have never tasted past 2ND Gen (poor gang) and I would screech in joy, I have no problems using them since I use a Linux distribution. Greatest possible win.
7:03-Just before you got to the “Coming Soon” part of the description, I was planning to make a road trip to my mom’s so I can run that comparability checker for her recently purchased computer. Mom comes from a place, situation, and time where a person learned to appreciate each large purchase, to take care of that purchase more so than a great many people and choose the subject of that purchase carefully. Her computer is only a couple of years old, and surprisingly powerful, (considering how she uses it) and I hope that she can upgrade the thing easily. She’s not a tech person, and would not understand the Microsoft Balderdash spouted to justify its changes. I get the feeling that those of us who are a bit more tech-oriented might feel as bad or worse!
I inherited her old computer-I’ve upgraded the ram and storage and it’s running Linux Mint now-but I don’t think I want to inherit another computer!
You have NO CHOICE, Mum's the word - Resistance is futile.
@@paulstubbs7678 Ah, but there’s always Locutus’s sleep command!
Kidding aside, I’m not thrilled about this-I even toyed with teaching Mom the basics of a Linux distro, but the ugly reality of it all is that for her needs, like it or not, Windows is not just the best game in town in terms of her relatively modest computer usage, but until we can break the hold, it’s the company store!
taskbar sacrifices functionality for looks. which is dumb
@@angusmacfrankenstein7227 I have taught older people how to use computers so I feel your pain. Personally, if your Mum’s computer won’t accept Win11, I would put a Linux distro on her computer. Linux Mint seems to get a lot of good reports from Windows refugees.
This is the kind of behaviour one would expect from a company that is seriously tired of its own existence. Microsoft seems to have fallen into a deep depression since Bill left. It wants its daddy back. It is insecure and alone in the dark, all the money can´t make it happy, it needs to get comforted by dad.
Just like Apple without Jobs.
My main PC is 9 years old and still does everything I need from it. It doesn't have UEFI and is running an i5 Core 2500K CPU. Looks like I will be running Windows 10 beyond its 2025 end of support.
I am the same, have 3 Dell Optiplex machines from 2012 to 2013 with Core I5, 6gb of ram, 512gb ssd; basic workstations. Windows 11 won't support them, so it's back to the XP to Vista days where I stick on unsupported os for a couple of years. What does Microsoft think that I am going to pay 2,000 to 3,000 for brand new systems just to support Windows 11? Haha!! They can go screw themselves!! This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I still don't know what I am going to do. I tried migrating to Linux, but the way I have networking and programs, I literally need a Linux professional just to help me set it up and I will need new training to support Linux.
I think you hit the points most users are wondering about. There's been a slow destruction of the PC user market for a while, and I wouldn't be surprised if the base for linux will increase with more friendly distros. Thanks for the video.
I be completely honest here. I thought your style is a bit old. But after watching many videos, I realized that it's not old, it's a classical. And I was being rude to thinking that way. Your works are so great.
:)
@@ExplainingComputers I love Barnett's videos, but I will say that there are some aesthetic and oratory changes that he can make to improve the quality of his videos substantially; all without compromising the professional veneer he has established in his excellent videos. Granted, this would require research on editing and graphical techniques that some modern youtubers utilize. --Chris seems like a busy dude given how knowledgeable he is, so his capability to dedicate time into these aspects while maintaining a proper upload schedule, as well as handling research and development on each given video seems like asking for a bit much -- especially on a channel that uploads free content. A bit of a shame, but ExplainingComputers is such a valuable resource tool for guys like me who get into electrical engineering on a whim, that I can't find it in me to lament a couple niggles here and there.
@@MrValsung I prefer the existing style of videos. :)
THANKS FOR THE USEFUL VID MAN
YOUR EFFORT IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED
No problem!
I hope this backfires spectacularly in Microsoft's face and with the advent of Linux gaming becoming more of a thing thanks to the Steam Deck there is hope that it will.
It's already happening because of Hardware requirements...
Therefore, people are more into switching to Linux and other alternatives.
@@SkyFly19853 YEAH EVERYONE DOESNT LIKE sTEAM OR streaming games period
@@SupremeNerd
Well... I don't think people would be happy with Windows 11's Hardware Requirements...
lets hope so... but would be nice with a fully compatible alternative so stuff just worked... but I must admit I have seriously considered just dumping winblows, Win8 I skipped and Win10 has been super obnoxious and they haven't even fixed the thing about "multiple control panels" instead of just having ONE where you can go into sub categories to fix everything... noooo we need multiple and stuff is hidden weird places and such that makes no sense when you were used to older versions.... Win98/Xp/7 where the BEST... after that it has just been horrible... heck even Windows 3.11 is better than Windows 8/8.1/10
@@LiLBitsDK I thought the same thing: even Windows 3.1 is even better than Windows 10 or 11...
I wonder if anyone has considered the impact this will have on the elderly,Many of us rely on our computers, renewing prescriptions,contacting family,shoping.etc.In my case my pc is 15yearsold.Cannot afford a new one like all of my old dodderer friends.We are aiming to move to linux.Wish us luck.
In my experience, upgrading senior folk and the ancient version of Windows that they inevitably have on their venerable computer to a lightweight Linux distro such as Lubuntu is invariably a complete success. Just do it and they will be happy.
What you rely on is your browser. As long as there is an icon on the desktop to launch Firefox, Chrome etc., nothing will get in the way of your emails or prescription service. If you need to do some word processing, home publishing or something similar, there are so many alternatives to Microsoft Office. I've been using Linux since 2008 - Ubuntu Hardy Heron - and never looked back. Good luck making friends with a penguin!
I'm not sure where you live, but if you are upto the task, do check your local recycle center drop off points, and see if they will let you look in the e-waste bin for good hardware to salvage. I do it from time to time, and have gotten good gear like Apple Macbooks(I run Manjaro Linux on them), HP desktops/laptops, Amazon Kindles, etc.. all I needed to get them running again if they are in decent shape was a little elbow grease with Lemon Lysol, a soft clean paintbrush, my mini shop vac in blower mode, replace the thermal paste on the CPU(that's more advanced, and only if you are up to that task) and if they have at least 4GB of RAM and a decent dual core CPU you are 1/2 way to running something like Solus Linux, Manjaro Mate Linux, or Chromium OS via Neverware CloudReady OS Home Edition(all free unless you want to donate to the Linux projects to say thanks, or buy some merch) just pick up a cheap 120GB ADATA SSD off ebay for $22, and a SATA III cable for a few bucks if needed, and use that as your boot drive, and reformat the HDD in the system as secondary storage.
Hello, J H, There is nothing to worry about Linux. I am writing this on a Linux OS installed laptop. I bought it 2006 & installed Windows XP. It initially had 0.5 gb ram and 120gb HDD. After 2014 I have removed Win XP and upgraded RAM to max limit 2 GB and 500 GB HDD. Initially I tried Ubuntu 14 which was slow. So I shifted to Linux Mint 17 cinnamon, I used it till 2019, then upgraded to linux mint 18 which running slow. So I moved to Ubuntu Mate 18 which was running great but if you open 6-7 tabs in chromium it starts to cripple. Finally I moved to Lubuntu 18. Which runs great.
But problem with Lubuntu and with all ubuntu distro is they have stopped support for 32 bit cpu architecture. which is my case. So my Lubuntu ed can't be upgraded and will be left unsupported after 2023 April. I can however Install Linux mint debian ed but computer will run slower. Lubuntu is not as beautiful as linux mint but it does all the job.
If you have 15 years old PC could be it also has a 32 bit CPU and you don't have much option left.
I suggest you to buy a 2nd hand PC from Amazon or Ebay. They come with pre-installed windows 10 and have good config. Dell, HP, Lenovo are few to name. Check description.
I have purchased a Lenovo Thinkcentre M72e with intel i5 3rd gen 3470s and 8gb ddr3 RAM, 320gb HDD. which is running great for 6 months. You can uphrade HDD to SSD and it will work even better. Of course it is a 64 bit cpu and all Linux distro especially Linux mint cinnamon will run great. How ever it came with Windows 10 genuine ed which I have kept. You can activate win 10 ed in stalled with the win 7 activation sticker attached to your 2nd hand PC.
The price I paid for it is only 110 $.
However, if you plan to use win 11 then this PC won't work.
You can do all that stuff on a smartphone, no need for a pc.
Technically I think hard hardware requirements are a really good opportunity to clean up the OS (remove old and legacy drivers for hardware almost no one uses anymore). But this is Microsoft we are talking about, I doubt they will actually do this and the hardware requirement is just a result of horrible coding.
BIG THUMBS UP... worked flawlessly installing Win 11 on my ESXI 6.7 HyperVisor. Thanks Sir
Great to hear!
I personally never install spyware on my systems. When Windows10 became 'free', I decided not to pay the price and move to Linux Mint. I never looked back...
10:05 - "This is a big improvement on Windows 10, which likes to stop you working and mess up your PC every 6 months." Truer words have never been spoken in relation to Microsoft. Ever.
But you don't have to download the feature updates. I'm usually at least a year behind...
I thought I heard back when 10 was launching Microsoft say that they no longer we’re going to do these upgrades and they were just going to take the macOS approach to releasing incremental updates.
We already knew when Windows 10 support was gonna end, back when Windows 10 launched. This statement by Microsoft probably caused alot of confusion.
Incremental updates isn't the macOS approach. Each new macOS version released every year is a whole new operating system often with loads of things changed under the hood which makes old programs stop working correctly. That's why a lot of Mac users - and especially those who rely on older versions of photo, video and audio apps - never update their computers.
@@babyboomertwerkteam5662 I know this. I used the word incremental to describe the yearly update.
TPM. Has nothing to do with the user's ability to trust the platform. More like Microsoft trusting the user's platform. MS remains an abusive monopoly, and if it weren't for games I'd have switched decades ago.
@Octavio P. But Windows has a more flawless compatibility with those games than Linux with Wine.
MS has had this monopoly since the days of Windows 98 when they forced every computer to have Internet Explorer and as more people used Internet Explorer, they relied more on using Windows. Also, I'm not a Windows hater, in fact I like using Windows on my computer for than anything else. I'm just saying how the monopoly all started.
@Octavio P. Some games work in with Wine but its hit & miss. Wine won't even work on Debian, at least not for me.
@@jezz2k Wine can definitely work on Debian, not sure why it wouldn't work for you. And honestly, not every game may work with it, but the majority of games does these days (a notable exception being games with EAC or BattlEye Anti Cheat).
Proton runs the majority of Windows games on Steam quite well, and for non-Steam games, Lutris helps you set up Wine for lots and lots of games.
@Octavio P. All my gaming is VR. Maybe they'll make that better after SteamDeck, but for now ... Win 10/11 it is. Alas.
I really hate when Microsoft changes the "look and feel" of the desktop for no good reason, or changes where things are located. As a power user, I am constantly having to re-learn where to find things in the OS. Microsoft doesn't listen to their users - they are off in their own world, making changes for no other purpose than to justify their jobs. I have been a PC user since the mid 1980's, but after Windows 7 support ceased I have been migrating everything I can over to Mac and Linux. There are only a few apps I use that are not available on other platforms, but I guess that before 2025 I will need to find good alternatives and completely cut the MS cord.
I cut the cord 18 months ago! I can do it! You can!
Putting the Windows Start button in the middle of the screen instead of at the bottom left corner was too much for your brain to handle?
I think you'll be able to move it back to the left, or so I've read. I also imagine that GUI shells to make 11 feel more like 10 (or even 7?) will pop up in time.
Agreed! I remember struggling to find network adapter settings back with windows 8.0 on my uncles laptop...something that would of taken me 2 seconds on any previous windows. That was a hot mess.
I can hit the start menu with my mouse without looking because its in the corner...good luck doing that when its in the middle. its just plain dumb, "fixing" something that is perfectly fine as it is.
That Windows 11 wallpaper Looks great .... on my KDE Plasma ...Thanks Windows 11....
I thought we were going to get the 'Theme tune' from a certain spaghetti western, 1966 anyone!! Another interesting and thought provoking video from Chris. I switched to Linux Mint several years ago, dual booting with Win 7 (offline)! The dock in W 11 is very similar to the one in 'elementary' OS (Linux).
taskbar sacrifices functionality for looks. which is dumb
@@mikelisteral7863 please stop
I think its convenient how they revised the CPU requirements to include their studio 2 machines. That particular 7th gen processor seems to only be used in Studio 2 or it is only narrowly deployed in a very limited number of OEM systems.
Yes, that was rather convenient. But no 1st gen Ryzens . . .