Video Shortcuts: My Reasons for Larger Tank: 0:00:29 Available Tank Options for CRF250L & CRF250 Rally: 0:03:04 Tank & Hardware Overview: 0:06:44 Draining Stock Tank: 0:08:07 Seat & Fairing Removal: 0:09:51 Tank Mounting Pints: 0:13:38 Best Practices for Disconnecting Petrol Hoses: 0:14:32 Disconnecting Battery Negative Terminal & Fuel Pump Harness: 0:15:50 Disconnecting Tank Breather Hose & Fuel Hose Clamp Release: 0:16:45 Lifting the Stock Tank: 0:18:12 Provisionally Attaching Hardware to the New Tank: 0:18:52 Offering Up the New Tank to The Bike (Testing Cable Routing): 0:22:43 Stock Tank Fuel Pump Removal: 0:26:23 Provisionally Attaching Fuel Pump to the New Tank: 0:27:50 Offering Up the New Tank to The Bike (Testing Alignment): 0:28:59 Radiator Guard & Frame Mounting Point Issues: 0:30:38 Trimming Tank’s Fairing Mount Brackets: 0:32:47 New Tank’s Hardware Realignment: 0:33:18 Attaching Fuel Pump to the New Tank: 0:36:33 Inspecting Fuel Float: 0:40:15 Inspecting & Bending Mounting Points Touching the Tank: 0:40:45 Testing Fuel Pump Seals: 0:45:57 Petrol Vapour Warning: 0:47:12 Inspecting Fuel Pump Seals for Leaks: 0:48:59 Connecting Fuel Pump Harness & Installing Tank on the Bike: 0:49:40 Final Checks for Rubbing: 0:51:15 Starting the Bike Up: 0:53:24 Inspecting Fuel Gauge: 0:54:39 Installing Fairings: 0:55:54 Bike with the New Tank Fitted: 1:01:45 Weight Difference - Stock vs Plastic 13.2l Tank: 1:02:06
@1:03:39 ... so it makes sense for necomers to not be a cheapskate and go for the CRF300 Rally instead. It saves time, you have a windshield, LED headlights, a skid plate and a 12.5l tank. The suspension still sucks for big boyes. :)
@@worldhello1234 Yes, indeed, providing that they improved the windscreen on the CRL300 Rally, as the one on CRF250L was too short for taller riders. Nonetheless, the CRF300 Rally with larger tank and reduced weight seems like a very appealing bike.
Very useful video Shem. Thank you. I installed an IMS tank on my 2019 CRF250L today. The fuel line connects with the bottom of the fuel pump with a quick release connector. Disconnecting this made the job easier as the pump swap can be carried out on the bench.
I bought the Chinese-manufactured tank for a 2016, too. It fit pretty much perfectly. If you turn the front mount around facing outward you can use the OEM Honda tank mounts and rubbers. No issues with rubbing, no touching of the Flatland Racing radiator guard on mine, and a bit of wiggling and pressure to mount at the back of the tank first. Thanks for your tutorial. It was really helpful to see how things went together.
Shem, great in-depth video. I like the way you have your tools organized: the cleaning brushes, the bits, the compressor tubing with valves, etc. I will steal some of those ideas for my garage setup. Well done!
@@TheScatman89 Just wondering what either of you did for the stock vent hose? Shem appears to have used a cap with petcock, so did you cap off the stock vent ? The IMS tank that I am installing has a vent hose to the cap that hooks into the stock vent hose? Did you install that Daniel? Would appreciate any advice you can offer, I don’t understand advantages and disadvantages.
@@fosterdogg Yes that confused me aswell. I searched around for it, and apparently the manufacturer vent hose, needs to be plugged in with the IMS one (the one that goes ontop of your gas cap) for it to be "legal" so think "emissions standards". Ive seen you can get a little plug, just ontop of your gas cap, alot of dual sport bikes have that, I guess that is an option, I really doubt anyone cares if it meets emission standards or not. I did it the "right way", and if it bothers me too much, I might just blind the factory vent hose off, and zip tie it so it doesnt bounce around under the tank, but right now the gas cap is not going to fall off the bike, when I refuel cause the vent hose (ims one) is stuck on the cap which I see as a positive atm. Hope that helps! - this is my first dual sport bike too.. so everything is new to me aswell :)
Again, awesome video, and this is only the second one I've watched. And i don't even own a CFR yet (though it is on my increasingly short shortlist, thanks to your video on suspension). I really appreciate the level of detail you go into. Please keep them coming!
Great video! Love in depth and detailed videos like these when modifying oem. Very thorough and covers many things most overlook. How has the tank held up? Any leaks or complaints. Thanks again. Ride on!
Thanks Kyle. Yes, I've been on some long off-road journeys and dropped the bike couple of times - no issues with the tank so far. I've not used it in any hot climates yet so we'll have to see how it is going to behave when I can finally follow Trans Euro Trail in Alps (most likely next year now). I'll do an update video if I come across any problems.
@@Shem I changed my 2017 250L original tank to acerbis tank. After the change I could not start my bike. The motor will Crank but will not start. I wonder why. Thanks for any advise 👌
@@willisbcteoh9840 Just seen this comment - sorry to hear about your trouble. Have you resolved it now? Without being there in person or having and in-depth conversation about it is next to impossible to troubleshoot it properly. I'd suggest trying to 'break' everything into smaller chunks, and do it bit by bit following logic. What components you might have touched while working on it? It's likely to be cables and fuel hoses. So start by checking whether the power is getting to the fuel pump / spark plug and try to go from there.
Thanks for the video. I bought my crf250l used from dealer with Acerbus tank already installed by previous owner. I disconnected rear tank mounting bolts to lift rear of tank for access and noticed when reconnecting the tank it was binding a bulky wiring harness on left side. Did you run into this problem?
I’ve done this a while back so I cannot be sure but I do recall a think harness of wires on the left side. I don’t think it was binding but it was quite close to the side of tank. Good luck with sorting it 👍
No I do not. I've purchased it from eBay and these links often expire, and this is why I rarely share any product links in my videos. Yes, it is still working for me, no issues with the tank.
Not quite. It's a good indication of when you are running low, however, I tend to rely on my odometer more. My average fuel consumption is astound 3.6L/Km (78mpg) , so I know I should get about 354Km (220mi) from a full tank.
Thank you. I'm not sure, you'll have to check with the person/shop that you are buying it from. I believe the petrol pump fixing may be slightly different for models prior to 2017, so definitely worth checking.
I've found that on eBay UK. It was called "GP Kompozit" and here are couple of videos I've made about fitting it on: Fitting: ruclips.net/video/BfodopqACfg/видео.html New Lighter Brackets: ruclips.net/video/Yg4ki273_vc/видео.html
Hi Shem, on a completely different subject, when did you fit the Renthal bars? Did you drill them for the locating lugs on the switch gear? I'm guessing so.. :-)
Hey David. I fitted Renthal bars couple of months ago becasue I crashed the bike during one of my winter trips and bent the stock bars. I was quite happy with the shape of the sock bars, so I found the Renhal model (971-08-BK) that was close in shape to that. I belive this Renthal model is fitted into the CRF450L as stock bars. And yes, I had to drill the holes for assemblies on both sides - the bars are quite thick so I did not need to drill through, just blind holes ;).
@@Shem I did exactly the same on the CRF250 Rally with pro taper evo bars. You should have done a video! lots of guys just file down or remove the lugs, wouldn't trust that for security especially on the throttle side.. Great in depth videos by the way.
@@djhowse Yeh, I should have but the replacement was more of a reaction to my crash rather than a planned upgrade. Filming a detailed video like this one takes anywhere between 8 to 14 hours, plus 4 to 6 hours for putting it together. At the time, I just wanted the new bars on the bike quickly so I could ride again ;).
Now you have the benefit of more experience with the bike, do you still stand by your initial spreadsheet findings when you did the comparison between the 250L and the Rally, and would the new 300 Rally have changed your mind, or would the weight differential still feature for green laning applications?
Yes, for how I use the bike, my opinion has not changed - I'd still choose the 250L version over the 250 Rally. In terms of weight, I'm going through a weight reduction project right now, and I'm planning to shave off around 10kg from the bike; I'll make a separate video about it. In terms of the new bike, I obviously like the idea of slightly more power, but it is not a deal breaker for me. Even if you put a 60hp engine it in, it will never be as composed at the motorway speeds as heavier and more aerodynamic bikes. What I like about the 300 Rally is that is comes with a 12.8l tank, which if you are planning longer trips, is a welcomed addition. I felt that the tank of the 250 Rally wasn't really that much of an improvement over the 250L's tank. So if someone planned really long trips on the 250 Rally, they would have had to either change the tank or carry extra fuel somewhere else. Looking at the RRP of the CRF300L vs CRF300 Rally, there is over £1k difference in price. This is a lot of money that could be spend on accessories and making the bike lighter... On top of that, the CRF300L is 142kg whereas CRF300 Rally is 153kg - so the weight difference of 11kg is still there. Without taking both bikes for a ride, it is hard to tell, but looking at the specs and the price difference, I'd probably go for the CRF300L. Or potentially look for a relatively new CRF250L which are bound to go down in price now.
@@Shem Hi Shem. Sounds like a good plan for your application. For my mileage, the 300 Rally will be ideal. I do a 120-mile round trip every Saturday and ADV work in the summer. My 900 was getting too heavy at my age, so the 300 Rally will be much more nimble and get me to more remote places again. Good luck and enjoying the videos. My SRC Moto rack and can is on it's way. I can live with the extra weight and is a good fit for the "Goose" motorcycle tent. Cheers
@@Tanuki65 Thanks. The weight reduction video may be a while as it gets quite expensive once you've changed the heaviest parts. I'm in between how for to take it now... It would be a good material for a video but you could easily spend £2 to £3k on it, and by that time, you may as well get a better and lighter bike. So, we will see :).
@@Shem the classic conundrum - the law of diminishing returns! There must be a weight/value ranking - top 3 weight savers then everything after that is subjective?
Hey Maciej. I've purchased the 21 Brothers Rogal 40l, made in our home country. I've not used it due to lockdown, so don't have any opinion about it yet.
I don't include eBay links in the videos as they often change, may not be available to viewers from different countries, and are not available forever. Quick eBay search for "crf250l tank" should list all options that are available for you.
Video Shortcuts:
My Reasons for Larger Tank: 0:00:29
Available Tank Options for CRF250L & CRF250 Rally: 0:03:04
Tank & Hardware Overview: 0:06:44
Draining Stock Tank: 0:08:07
Seat & Fairing Removal: 0:09:51
Tank Mounting Pints: 0:13:38
Best Practices for Disconnecting Petrol Hoses: 0:14:32
Disconnecting Battery Negative Terminal & Fuel Pump Harness: 0:15:50
Disconnecting Tank Breather Hose & Fuel Hose Clamp Release: 0:16:45
Lifting the Stock Tank: 0:18:12
Provisionally Attaching Hardware to the New Tank: 0:18:52
Offering Up the New Tank to The Bike (Testing Cable Routing): 0:22:43
Stock Tank Fuel Pump Removal: 0:26:23
Provisionally Attaching Fuel Pump to the New Tank: 0:27:50
Offering Up the New Tank to The Bike (Testing Alignment): 0:28:59
Radiator Guard & Frame Mounting Point Issues: 0:30:38
Trimming Tank’s Fairing Mount Brackets: 0:32:47
New Tank’s Hardware Realignment: 0:33:18
Attaching Fuel Pump to the New Tank: 0:36:33
Inspecting Fuel Float: 0:40:15
Inspecting & Bending Mounting Points Touching the Tank: 0:40:45
Testing Fuel Pump Seals: 0:45:57
Petrol Vapour Warning: 0:47:12
Inspecting Fuel Pump Seals for Leaks: 0:48:59
Connecting Fuel Pump Harness & Installing Tank on the Bike: 0:49:40
Final Checks for Rubbing: 0:51:15
Starting the Bike Up: 0:53:24
Inspecting Fuel Gauge: 0:54:39
Installing Fairings: 0:55:54
Bike with the New Tank Fitted: 1:01:45
Weight Difference - Stock vs Plastic 13.2l Tank: 1:02:06
@1:03:39 ... so it makes sense for necomers to not be a cheapskate and go for the CRF300 Rally instead. It saves time, you have a windshield, LED headlights, a skid plate and a 12.5l tank. The suspension still sucks for big boyes. :)
@@worldhello1234 Yes, indeed, providing that they improved the windscreen on the CRL300 Rally, as the one on CRF250L was too short for taller riders. Nonetheless, the CRF300 Rally with larger tank and reduced weight seems like a very appealing bike.
Dude, thank you! Not a lot of "very specific" videos out there of this. You saved me a lot of head ache.
Glad to hear that! Good luck with your project.
Very useful video Shem. Thank you. I installed an IMS tank on my 2019 CRF250L today. The fuel line connects with the bottom of the fuel pump with a quick release connector. Disconnecting this made the job easier as the pump swap can be carried out on the bench.
Thanks! Good point, did not think about it at the time.
I bought the Chinese-manufactured tank for a 2016, too. It fit pretty much perfectly. If you turn the front mount around facing outward you can use the OEM Honda tank mounts and rubbers. No issues with rubbing, no touching of the Flatland Racing radiator guard on mine, and a bit of wiggling and pressure to mount at the back of the tank first. Thanks for your tutorial. It was really helpful to see how things went together.
Thank you for you comment - glad the tutorial was useful. I'm glad that you got yours sorted without much hassle.
Shem, great in-depth video. I like the way you have your tools organized: the cleaning brushes, the bits, the compressor tubing with valves, etc. I will steal some of those ideas for my garage setup. Well done!
Thanks M W! There is probably a better way to organise it all but I has been working OK for me so far. Good luck with you project!
I just did this upgrade to my own CRF250L 2019. Good job on the video very detailed.
Thanks. Did you get the IMS tank or the same tank as I did?
@@Shem I got the IMS one. :)
@@TheScatman89 Just wondering what either of you did for the stock vent hose? Shem appears to have used a cap with petcock, so did you cap off the stock vent ? The IMS tank that I am installing has a vent hose to the cap that hooks into the stock vent hose? Did you install that Daniel? Would appreciate any advice you can offer, I don’t understand advantages and disadvantages.
@@fosterdogg Yes that confused me aswell. I searched around for it, and apparently the manufacturer vent hose, needs to be plugged in with the IMS one (the one that goes ontop of your gas cap) for it to be "legal" so think "emissions standards".
Ive seen you can get a little plug, just ontop of your gas cap, alot of dual sport bikes have that, I guess that is an option, I really doubt anyone cares if it meets emission standards or not. I did it the "right way", and if it bothers me too much, I might just blind the factory vent hose off, and zip tie it so it doesnt bounce around under the tank, but right now the gas cap is not going to fall off the bike, when I refuel cause the vent hose (ims one) is stuck on the cap which I see as a positive atm. Hope that helps! - this is my first dual sport bike too.. so everything is new to me aswell :)
@@TheScatman89 Thanks! I went with the “right way” and will see like you mentioned.
Again, awesome video, and this is only the second one I've watched. And i don't even own a CFR yet (though it is on my increasingly short shortlist, thanks to your video on suspension). I really appreciate the level of detail you go into. Please keep them coming!
Thanks. CRF is a really nice bike regardless which one you get. I have no regrets buying mine :).
What a detailed installation, and very good video. Thank you.
Thank you!
Great video! Love in depth and detailed videos like these when modifying oem. Very thorough and covers many things most overlook. How has the tank held up? Any leaks or complaints. Thanks again. Ride on!
Thanks Kyle. Yes, I've been on some long off-road journeys and dropped the bike couple of times - no issues with the tank so far. I've not used it in any hot climates yet so we'll have to see how it is going to behave when I can finally follow Trans Euro Trail in Alps (most likely next year now). I'll do an update video if I come across any problems.
Super good job 👏 👍
Thanks ;)
@@Shem I changed my 2017 250L original tank to acerbis tank. After the change I could not start my bike. The motor will Crank but will not start. I wonder why. Thanks for any advise 👌
@@willisbcteoh9840 Just seen this comment - sorry to hear about your trouble. Have you resolved it now? Without being there in person or having and in-depth conversation about it is next to impossible to troubleshoot it properly. I'd suggest trying to 'break' everything into smaller chunks, and do it bit by bit following logic. What components you might have touched while working on it? It's likely to be cables and fuel hoses. So start by checking whether the power is getting to the fuel pump / spark plug and try to go from there.
Anyone know if this tank can be modified or fits a crf300L.Anyone tried?
Thanks for the video. I bought my crf250l used from dealer with Acerbus tank already installed by previous owner. I disconnected rear tank mounting bolts to lift rear of tank for access and noticed when reconnecting the tank it was binding a bulky wiring harness on left side. Did you run into this problem?
I’ve done this a while back so I cannot be sure but I do recall a think harness of wires on the left side. I don’t think it was binding but it was quite close to the side of tank. Good luck with sorting it 👍
Do you have a link to the tank? How is it working for you now? Do you still like it?
No I do not. I've purchased it from eBay and these links often expire, and this is why I rarely share any product links in my videos.
Yes, it is still working for me, no issues with the tank.
Is the fuel gauge useles once you install the new tank?
Not quite. It's a good indication of when you are running low, however, I tend to rely on my odometer more. My average fuel consumption is astound 3.6L/Km (78mpg) , so I know I should get about 354Km (220mi) from a full tank.
good video,increible bike!!
Thank you.
Who makes the tank ?
It is a Chinese made tank, no manufacturer name on it.
Great video. I'm about to make this installation on the 2013 model. Does the tank fit that year?
Thank you. I'm not sure, you'll have to check with the person/shop that you are buying it from. I believe the petrol pump fixing may be slightly different for models prior to 2017, so definitely worth checking.
hello.can you say what wind screen this is? what brand or where to find it. thanks
I've found that on eBay UK. It was called "GP Kompozit" and here are couple of videos I've made about fitting it on:
Fitting: ruclips.net/video/BfodopqACfg/видео.html
New Lighter Brackets: ruclips.net/video/Yg4ki273_vc/видео.html
Hi Shem, on a completely different subject, when did you fit the Renthal bars? Did you drill them for the locating lugs on the switch gear? I'm guessing so.. :-)
Hey David. I fitted Renthal bars couple of months ago becasue I crashed the bike during one of my winter trips and bent the stock bars. I was quite happy with the shape of the sock bars, so I found the Renhal model (971-08-BK) that was close in shape to that. I belive this Renthal model is fitted into the CRF450L as stock bars. And yes, I had to drill the holes for assemblies on both sides - the bars are quite thick so I did not need to drill through, just blind holes ;).
@@Shem I did exactly the same on the CRF250 Rally with pro taper evo bars. You should have done a video! lots of guys just file down or remove the lugs, wouldn't trust that for security especially on the throttle side.. Great in depth videos by the way.
@@djhowse Yeh, I should have but the replacement was more of a reaction to my crash rather than a planned upgrade. Filming a detailed video like this one takes anywhere between 8 to 14 hours, plus 4 to 6 hours for putting it together. At the time, I just wanted the new bars on the bike quickly so I could ride again ;).
Can you provide me the address for this tank? Thank you in advance!
Sorry about the delay. The eBay listing I bought it from is no longer available. Try searching eBay.
Now you have the benefit of more experience with the bike, do you still stand by your initial spreadsheet findings when you did the comparison between the 250L and the Rally, and would the new 300 Rally have changed your mind, or would the weight differential still feature for green laning applications?
Yes, for how I use the bike, my opinion has not changed - I'd still choose the 250L version over the 250 Rally. In terms of weight, I'm going through a weight reduction project right now, and I'm planning to shave off around 10kg from the bike; I'll make a separate video about it.
In terms of the new bike, I obviously like the idea of slightly more power, but it is not a deal breaker for me. Even if you put a 60hp engine it in, it will never be as composed at the motorway speeds as heavier and more aerodynamic bikes. What I like about the 300 Rally is that is comes with a 12.8l tank, which if you are planning longer trips, is a welcomed addition. I felt that the tank of the 250 Rally wasn't really that much of an improvement over the 250L's tank. So if someone planned really long trips on the 250 Rally, they would have had to either change the tank or carry extra fuel somewhere else.
Looking at the RRP of the CRF300L vs CRF300 Rally, there is over £1k difference in price. This is a lot of money that could be spend on accessories and making the bike lighter... On top of that, the CRF300L is 142kg whereas CRF300 Rally is 153kg - so the weight difference of 11kg is still there. Without taking both bikes for a ride, it is hard to tell, but looking at the specs and the price difference, I'd probably go for the CRF300L.
Or potentially look for a relatively new CRF250L which are bound to go down in price now.
@@Shem Hi Shem. Sounds like a good plan for your application. For my mileage, the 300 Rally will be ideal. I do a 120-mile round trip every Saturday and ADV work in the summer. My 900 was getting too heavy at my age, so the 300 Rally will be much more nimble and get me to more remote places again. Good luck and enjoying the videos. My SRC Moto rack and can is on it's way. I can live with the extra weight and is a good fit for the "Goose" motorcycle tent. Cheers
@@Shem Looking forward to seeing the weight reduction video. Good work on your videos - very informative :-)
@@Tanuki65 Thanks. The weight reduction video may be a while as it gets quite expensive once you've changed the heaviest parts. I'm in between how for to take it now... It would be a good material for a video but you could easily spend £2 to £3k on it, and by that time, you may as well get a better and lighter bike. So, we will see :).
@@Shem the classic conundrum - the law of diminishing returns! There must be a weight/value ranking - top 3 weight savers then everything after that is subjective?
Hi Shem, what kind of soft luggage you are using?
Hey Maciej. I've purchased the 21 Brothers Rogal 40l, made in our home country. I've not used it due to lockdown, so don't have any opinion about it yet.
Do you have the ebay link for the tank? Didn't see it in the description
I don't include eBay links in the videos as they often change, may not be available to viewers from different countries, and are not available forever.
Quick eBay search for "crf250l tank" should list all options that are available for you.
Some informative videos, every little detail covered. Still have the crf250l?
Thanks. Yes, still have it and still like it a lot.
Kind of a piece of shit, it should fit just out of the box