I know this is an older video... but I needed to watch this Saturday before I went to the poker room Sunday🤣 I definitely need to tighten up my 1/2 game, I donate way too often.
spoiler: no. Only way to do 1/2 is to find a loose table and be TAG as F. Anything decent will likely double up your stack. rinse repeat. Works for me. Don't spend more than 2 hours at a single table, especially if everyone is tight. You can't go LAG on them because they will LPA call you til the end, so cant bluff either. Best time to play is 10pm-4am. The ultra LAG drunk maniac tourists easily give you their money.
I need to move to that card room. I'm a 1-2 regular at the Palm Beach Kennel Club Poker Room in West Palm Beach, Fla. At PBKC, nobody plays 1-2 that badly ... for long.
James... I play a home game with a ton of limpers and most hands go multiway. That being said, I wholeheartedly agree with NO open limping, however I have created a limping range from EP. You stated that you could agree with one if there was some thought behind it, so I'd love your input or anyone else's.... My limping range is small pp and any Ax suited that isn't strong enough to come in for a raise. And my justification is that both hands can withstand a raise for the most part. The small pp can still have 10:1 odds for setmining as most players aren't deep stacked at all and the Ax suited hands can call as usually most players call a reasonable sized raise. 12-15$ in 1/2$ and most players will call off a 100BB shove/bet with two pair, etc. and even overpairs to the board. I hope this is something that is worth doing?
I think for live hand analysis, it's better to go over hands that are played well and vs more skilled players that way you learn from what's being done right. High School football team isn't going to be getting better and improving by watching mistakes from a pee-wee game, ya know? It's better to show the proper way and talk about why that's proper vs showing bad form and saying why it's bad (IMO). Love all ur videos tho! Keep it up.
I hear you. There is a subset of people who learn well by seeing the same mistake they make, made by someone else who then gets punished for that same mistake. (That's a rough sentence to write lol)
I know limping, especially open-limping is bad. A couple spots where I'll do it in a recreational 1/2 game that I wouldn't do in a 2/5+ game is with small pairs and bad Ax suited hands that I'd normally fold. I think with so little squeezing and the propensity for players to make big mistakes post-flop, I don't mind open limping these hands because of their ability to stack players when they hit. I get it, I could just open these hands like normal, but in reality I should be folding them from EP. I generally don't do this in games even with decent regs as it becomes pretty easy to range me in that situation, but against bad recs that make constant big mistakes post flop I sometimes can't help myself.
Maybe they're all genius-level, but only at knowing how bad the other guys are...? This is such a rare type of breakdown, but I like it. It's extremely useful for people who need to learn, or remember (like me, because I don't get to play often) that even knowing what low-stakes players can be like, it's easy to still give them too much credit.
Hey man, love your videos and am currently enjoying working my way through your Preflop workbook. I mean this in total good faith and hope you take it that way, but it really bothers me every time you say 'spazzy play'. I know it's a relatively common term in poker parlance (unfortunately), but spazz is just such a slur against all disabled people that carries a lot of weight and baggage. I have a couple of good friends who are disabled and them educating me about this recently has totally cut it out of my poker vocabulary (I'm sure it's a work most people realise is wrong in normal conversation). "Random play", "Bonkers play" are so much better.
Nice hand and commentary, thanks. A suggestion: after the hand, you could briefly suggest how the betting might have gone at (say) $100-$200? Although probably not very interesting on this specific hand, I'm guessing J9 opens, K9 defends, J9 cbets and takes it...
Cheers! Always tough to do especially since this hand doesn't go that MW to the flop in an SRP at higher stakes. It's one of the things that makes small cash games so unique.
I love the 1/2 hand analysis! Thank you. I don't get why you are so down on the K6S UG limp. If you know you are in a game where you stand a very decent chance of seeing a flop for 1 BB why not limp with a limp/fold strategy? I think he got exactly what he was hoping for, i.e. two clubs and then simply failed to go super agressive on the flop and as well as the turn. Didn't Dave have a lot of fold equity on those streets and would be able to blow top pair guy off his hand? ty.
let me help you out. Limping marginal hands from early position loses ev. You will be playing out of position for the rest of the hand and will have little visibility going forward. Playing marginal hands from on of the worst positions on table is going to be a long term losing play. Most low stakes games are heavily raked and any perceived advantage you have is going to be hard to realize going 5 ways to flop. Tryin to bluff in multiway pots is pure punt. Players behind or in the blinds can have a large assortment of strong hands that are not going to fold. At low stakes players tend to fold to bluffs less often if they have and hand the perceive as strong like in the case top pair.
other commenter stated most of the importance but a small thing I like to tell people is that if you put your 1 bb in with like 5 people still left to act, now their opening raise is going to be larger (theoretically) because theres more in the pot. and now you've just donated 1 BB from your stack for no reason other than hoping nobody opens with anything, because you sure arent going to be calling like a 6 BB open with K6S and if nobody opens past you you're going to be miserable in like a 5 way flop and it comes K whatever whatever with no suits of your hand and you're being bet into since theres only 4 worse king holdings than you and 8 better holdings of Kx (including KK, i dont know the actual numbers for true combos lol). Dont donate chips to opponents and dont put yourself in bad spots for no reason!
The comments above this are good starting points. By the logic of "the weak limped hand could hit big and get paid off", why not limp just about anything UTG since any hand could technically smash the flop and possibly get paid off?
I hate time wasters. That tanking at the end? Just a total waste of everybody's time. Does tanking for two minutes save face more than 15 seconds? Nope, fold, move on.
Remember, GTO is "unexploitable," but players are not. Give a.i. a 50% chance of playing the best move instead of 100%. That's what GTO players are, basically. They are exploitable even if their "game" isn't.
cuz u still get value with your value hands from random idiots who don’t think about anything but the two cards in their hand and the five cards on the board lol once people get good, nits can’t win cuz nobody pays them off and they start complaining it’s rigged
Dude, You are a bad spokes person. You are not explaining why not good and not taking your time why dont do this and why good.. in your head you know why its good or not but not explaining much. have you watch yourself? all I hear is this is good and not good but why not explain...
Do you have specific questions? I could certainly elaborate on all points, but doing so would make even a single-hand video like this incredibly long...so it's a balance of video length and depth.
I always find it difficult when Americans say "spazz out". In the UK, spazz is an ableist slur.... I know its not malicious or anything, just feels awkward to my British ears
It's getting tough to speak an entire sentence that has no chance of offending someone, even 100% unintentionally. This isn't an attack on you, just commentary that may very well end up proving my first sentence =)
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I love your commentary Man. Lots of players “make their bones” at $1-$2.
Cheers Eugene!
I love that you review 1-2 streams. More of that please!!
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@@ThePokerBank I’ve seen that one already!
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I know this is an older video... but I needed to watch this Saturday before I went to the poker room Sunday🤣
I definitely need to tighten up my 1/2 game, I donate way too often.
Wonderful analysis James. Keep ‘em coming!
spoiler: no. Only way to do 1/2 is to find a loose table and be TAG as F. Anything decent will likely double up your stack. rinse repeat. Works for me. Don't spend more than 2 hours at a single table, especially if everyone is tight. You can't go LAG on them because they will LPA call you til the end, so cant bluff either. Best time to play is 10pm-4am. The ultra LAG drunk maniac tourists easily give you their money.
Best advice ever!
That's a game I need to be in thanks for the vid keep up the great work and thumbs up
I need to move to that card room. I'm a 1-2 regular at the Palm Beach Kennel Club Poker Room in West Palm Beach, Fla. At PBKC, nobody plays 1-2 that badly ... for long.
You get slightly better weather in FL compared to Chicago though, lol
James... I play a home game with a ton of limpers and most hands go multiway. That being said, I wholeheartedly agree with NO open limping, however I have created a limping range from EP. You stated that you could agree with one if there was some thought behind it, so I'd love your input or anyone else's....
My limping range is small pp and any Ax suited that isn't strong enough to come in for a raise. And my justification is that both hands can withstand a raise for the most part. The small pp can still have 10:1 odds for setmining as most players aren't deep stacked at all and the Ax suited hands can call as usually most players call a reasonable sized raise. 12-15$ in 1/2$ and most players will call off a 100BB shove/bet with two pair, etc. and even overpairs to the board.
I hope this is something that is worth doing?
You want much better odds than that for setmining fwiw. Especially if the game isn't deep, I would highly suggest dumping the entire OL strategy.
I think for live hand analysis, it's better to go over hands that are played well and vs more skilled players that way you learn from what's being done right. High School football team isn't going to be getting better and improving by watching mistakes from a pee-wee game, ya know? It's better to show the proper way and talk about why that's proper vs showing bad form and saying why it's bad (IMO). Love all ur videos tho! Keep it up.
I hear you. There is a subset of people who learn well by seeing the same mistake they make, made by someone else who then gets punished for that same mistake. (That's a rough sentence to write lol)
I know limping, especially open-limping is bad. A couple spots where I'll do it in a recreational 1/2 game that I wouldn't do in a 2/5+ game is with small pairs and bad Ax suited hands that I'd normally fold. I think with so little squeezing and the propensity for players to make big mistakes post-flop, I don't mind open limping these hands because of their ability to stack players when they hit.
I get it, I could just open these hands like normal, but in reality I should be folding them from EP. I generally don't do this in games even with decent regs as it becomes pretty easy to range me in that situation, but against bad recs that make constant big mistakes post flop I sometimes can't help myself.
Maybe they're all genius-level, but only at knowing how bad the other guys are...?
This is such a rare type of breakdown, but I like it. It's extremely useful for people who need to learn, or remember (like me, because I don't get to play often) that even knowing what low-stakes players can be like, it's easy to still give them too much credit.
Hey man, love your videos and am currently enjoying working my way through your Preflop workbook. I mean this in total good faith and hope you take it that way, but it really bothers me every time you say 'spazzy play'. I know it's a relatively common term in poker parlance (unfortunately), but spazz is just such a slur against all disabled people that carries a lot of weight and baggage. I have a couple of good friends who are disabled and them educating me about this recently has totally cut it out of my poker vocabulary (I'm sure it's a work most people realise is wrong in normal conversation). "Random play", "Bonkers play" are so much better.
Nice hand and commentary, thanks.
A suggestion: after the hand, you could briefly suggest how the betting might have gone at (say) $100-$200?
Although probably not very interesting on this specific hand, I'm guessing J9 opens, K9 defends, J9 cbets and takes it...
Cheers! Always tough to do especially since this hand doesn't go that MW to the flop in an SRP at higher stakes. It's one of the things that makes small cash games so unique.
J9o would not open from the LJ. It would fold around and then the blinds would chop or (if that's not a thing) the SB would fold with 42o
This is why I can't move up in stakes. Grinding $1/$2 is like trying to take baby from a candy.
How did a candy even get a baby in the first place!?
IF DAVE WERE TO RAISE PREFLOP, WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD SIZE BET TO GET FOLDS OUOT OF THE OTHER PLAYERS WITH MARGINAL HANDS?
I love the 1/2 hand analysis! Thank you. I don't get why you are so down on the K6S UG limp. If you know you are in a game where you stand a very decent chance of seeing a flop for 1 BB why not limp with a limp/fold strategy? I think he got exactly what he was hoping for, i.e. two clubs and then simply failed to go super agressive on the flop and as well as the turn. Didn't Dave have a lot of fold equity on those streets and would be able to blow top pair guy off his hand? ty.
let me help you out. Limping marginal hands from early position loses ev. You will be playing out of position for the rest of the hand and will have little visibility going forward. Playing marginal hands from on of the worst positions on table is going to be a long term losing play. Most low stakes games are heavily raked and any perceived advantage you have is going to be hard to realize going 5 ways to flop. Tryin to bluff in multiway pots is pure punt. Players behind or in the blinds can have a large assortment of strong hands that are not going to fold. At low stakes players tend to fold to bluffs less often if they have and hand the perceive as strong like in the case top pair.
other commenter stated most of the importance but a small thing I like to tell people is that if you put your 1 bb in with like 5 people still left to act, now their opening raise is going to be larger (theoretically) because theres more in the pot. and now you've just donated 1 BB from your stack for no reason other than hoping nobody opens with anything, because you sure arent going to be calling like a 6 BB open with K6S and if nobody opens past you you're going to be miserable in like a 5 way flop and it comes K whatever whatever with no suits of your hand and you're being bet into since theres only 4 worse king holdings than you and 8 better holdings of Kx (including KK, i dont know the actual numbers for true combos lol). Dont donate chips to opponents and dont put yourself in bad spots for no reason!
The comments above this are good starting points. By the logic of "the weak limped hand could hit big and get paid off", why not limp just about anything UTG since any hand could technically smash the flop and possibly get paid off?
I think I'll switch from tourney play to cash games...:)
Welcome to cash!
In poker players version of afterlife hell,players such as these bust you over and over again for all eternity...lol
I would love to be at this table, and I'm terrible
Do you think micro stakes online poker is harder than 1 - 2 live?
1-2-live is like 5NL online
Yes
I would say a winning online 5nl player would grape 1-2 live
Typically, yes.
I hate time wasters. That tanking at the end? Just a total waste of everybody's time. Does tanking for two minutes save face more than 15 seconds? Nope, fold, move on.
Yup.
Remember, GTO is "unexploitable," but players are not. Give a.i. a 50% chance of playing the best move instead of 100%. That's what GTO players are, basically. They are exploitable even if their "game" isn't.
Don’t tap the glass!
Worst part of any of this is the long tank. HURRY UP PEOPLE its just $1/$2
No. The correct answer is no. Only me.
Don’t tap the tank
People do silly stuff on streams. Of course they're going to play goofy. They want to make a RUclips highlight.
You're probably right.
This is roulette what they here play ,,, nothing to do with poker :)
lol
whistling when u pronounce 's' coming out the speaker too hot..check your audio
When did everyone become such a NIT?!
cuz u still get value with your value hands from random idiots who don’t think about anything but the two cards in their hand and the five cards on the board lol
once people get good, nits can’t win cuz nobody pays them off and they start complaining it’s rigged
@@Aploplex I know you’re right I’m just finding I need to table change often in a good 1/3 room I hate bum hunting and changing tables so often.
you can always 3bet more often ;)
Nits and grinders ruin poker.
Dude, You are a bad spokes person. You are not explaining why not good and not taking your time why dont do this and why good.. in your head you know why its good or not but not explaining much. have you watch yourself? all I hear is this is good and not good but why not explain...
Do you have specific questions? I could certainly elaborate on all points, but doing so would make even a single-hand video like this incredibly long...so it's a balance of video length and depth.
"Classic, classic, 1/2" TL;DR posers
I always find it difficult when Americans say "spazz out". In the UK, spazz is an ableist slur.... I know its not malicious or anything, just feels awkward to my British ears
It's getting tough to speak an entire sentence that has no chance of offending someone, even 100% unintentionally. This isn't an attack on you, just commentary that may very well end up proving my first sentence =)