I'll never forget, one day I was feeling really sick mid-day, and told my boss I was leaving early, and started down the hall. He ran ahead of me, blocking my way, telling me I needed to stay. I asked him to move out of my way. He said, "You can't leave until your shift is over or you find someone to come in and replace you." I threw up all over him. He tried to jump back, but I got his pants and shoes. He was furious. I said " I told you I was sick, and to get out of my way. You physically prevented me from getting to the bathroom in time. Your fault". The entire office was laughing at him.
Pro tip: If you call in sick for a few days and your boss demands you get a doctors note to "verify" your illness. When you go to the doc for the note, ask for ADDITIONAL days off to recover and then tell your boss you have to stay out LONGER per the doc and thank him for telling you to see the doc.
That actually happened to me, but not by my request. I woke up one morning sick as a dog. Went to the doc's, and he put me off for a week. The company said I had to go to see a company doc the next day. She took one look at me and put me off for 2 weeks, lol. Would love to have been a fly on the wall when the office were told - which their doc did, not me.
@@GodShadowdeath When it's the company doc that puts you off for 2 weeks, they aren't gonna fire you, because their own employee/rep would be called into the employment court to testify about the unjustified dismissal. The courts love that sort of thing.
Is only because of lazy people and the "quiet quitting" generation that managers even feel like they need to police these things. My generation partied all night and showed up the next day in the same clothes and didn't cry about it. Buncha pu**ies these days.
@@GodShadowdeathwhile sick days aren’t unlimited the doctors orders are. If you’re fired over missing work and it was a doctors order to do so due to being sick or an injury and they fire you for said reason that opens a whole case for a lawsuit. Now in certain states in the U.S they can fire you without providing a reason so that’s a different problem entirely and almost impossible to prove or win.
I was a teacher (retired now). Over one weekend, I had gotten sick and my intestinal tract was severely inflamed and swollen. I went to the emergency room on Sunday afternoon and was scheduled for an emergency endoscopy. I warned my principal and chief administrator that this was occurring and that I wouldn’t be in for the next two days. I had already lined up a substitute teacher and filled them in on everything. Both administrators had the gall to ask me to put off the procedure until our next school vacation (Spring Break), which was 6 weeks away. I politely declined that and told them that I would have a doctor’s note for them when I got back. Doctor over heard that conversation and wrote me a note for 2 weeks off. He wasn’t very happy with them.
I’ve done this and been threatened to be fired, not even joking. Im in a state though where legally they can fire you for no reason at all, or any reason, and they don’t have to tell you. I left that job 😂😂 I agree with you, if anything you will know EXACTLY who you are working for and whether you wanna continue to work there or not .
Same here. I am off sick from work at this very moment. Phoning in sick is just giving them warning that I won't be in. But I live in the UK so I know they can't fire me.
I found out last week that our general manager has had blood poisoning, liver issues, a concussion, and intestinal blockage. She still went to work and was late a few times because of it. The boss has thought about replacing her. I may be her replacement. But, I don’t want to work under a boss like that.
I was fired because I wouldn't cancel an appointment I had with a specialist who had JUST called me to to come to the office the next afternoon to go over some test results. I had immediately told my manager that I would need to leave about 45 mins early. And he said I couldn't do that. When I told him that I NEEDED to go to this appointment he told me I was fired and watched me collect my things ...
This happened to me. They demanded that I come in. I did, I was very sick. I looked like death warmed over. They sent me home 2 hours later but almost *everyone* I worked with was sick the next day and for the rest of the week.
I worked for a woman who told me I'd taken off too much sick time with migraines. Then I come in sick with bronchitis and my co-workers had to go to her and say let her go ..... or we'll all get sick.
It is high time that employers figure out they can't screw with people anymore. We need half a day off to deal with something and you say no? We will remember that and it will bite you back 3 times as hard.
I started having an ocular migraine while working this morning. I phoned my manager to say what was happening. Immediately i was told to stop working and put the job back into the list and close the focs i was working on. Then i was told to go and do what i need to do, be safe and they would call me on the hour for a welfare check. If i needed sick leave they would take care of it ASAP. I was fine after two hours and was back at my work, only at my insistence and only after I'd eaten the lunch my manager had organised to be delivered. Otherwise they would have my VPN disabled. They are strict with sick policy as per the law and their enhanced rules, we are valued and our health is very important.
in 1988, when i was 18, i was fired for refusing overtime. i had already worked 85 hours and was physically and mentally exhausted. It was a security job, and the supervisor said I had to cover for his shift because he had a family dinner that day. i had already worked 2 8 hour shifts that day. he insisted i told him i just couldnt he said if i didnt do it dont bother coming back long story short they fired me for insubordination of a superior i was young and naive didnt know what they did was illegal
I spent ten years in private security myself - during your training in the region I live, you are told to explicitly that it’s illegal for security personnel to work more than sixteen hours in a row without eight hours off. Of course, some companies just flat out ignore this and make you put in shifts of 18-20 hours or more but you can threaten to report them for it: just be sure to keep copies of log and other relevant paperwork to make your case in court…
I'm a manager of a small team and I definitely subscribe to the "one hand washes the other" attitude. Sometimes *I* need time off on short notice, and because I treat my team right, they are always willing to step up and cover for my absence. It's a two-way street.
Yup, my two bosses are great with this, too. Even family dramas can be worked around. When they need a hand or a stay late- no problem! Everyone is happy.
I had an employer say to me. I need you to start at 7.30 am and work until 7pm on Thursday. I was on 3 weeks of afternoon shifts and 1 week of nights and when I finally had a day shift he would ask me to stay until 7pm in the one week I wanted to be with my family. This one week I had enough! he gave me a written warning for dropping off the wrong paper to a printing press. We had 2 kinds that looked the same and they didn't put forestry on the pick slip so I delivered Non forestry. it was wrong he gave me a written warning and said don't forget you are on until 7pm. I said no worries he left at 4pm and I followed him out of the gate he said where are you going I said to get food. I just didn't say it was at my house! The next day he asked why I didn't work until 7 they needed me. I said I was so stressed over my warning i couldn't possibly stay. It was a good night being home with my family.
I don't ask for permission to be sick or to go to the doctor. I just call out. It's been 17 years and not one of my bosses has had a problem with it yet. If they do, so what?
I love Veronica. My managers are scared to talk to me. I like it that way. I’m the only one here that tells them no. I do my job. That’s it. I don’t want a promotion. I don’t want to move up. Im not taking one for the team. I do my job extremely well, and I go home. I actually had one boss tell me I had to do my part like everyone else. I am currently covering 3 people’s shift. Ok. I will work like everyone else. The second day a different manager asked why I’ve slowed down. I told him what happened. He apologized and said he would keep her away from me from now on. They are so screwed when I quit. Luckily one or two know it.
I did come in sick, and since my sickness was related to allergies sustained by the work environment, I sustained further injury. 22 years later, I still can't smell or taste anything and continue to suffer daily sinus pain.
Once I called in early sick because I had a bad cold. Not 5 mins later my then supervisor calls me and says I have to go in because he needs the day off. Being the naive person I was, I let him make me go into work. And everyone was like "didn't you call in sick" mind you I'm hacking up a lung and reply "yes but my supervisor told me he needed the time off." Grrrr this was when I was afraid of losing my job cause I was still new. Now I realize I should have just told him to stuff it. 😅
@@professormadlad7773 The thing is, this channel is also using someone else's audio, and the good thing is she is given the credits to that channel in the video title so no issues
How do you ask if you are sick? You just call and tell them you are sick. I had one of these bosses once. They always make you feel bad for being sick. Which always resulted in me healing slower due to stress. It always made me sick 2 days longer. 😉
Some jobs will state in their description before you sign the employment contract that there is mandatory overtime. Meaning that if you refuse you are subject to disciplinary action up to and including termination. Check that before saying this. Or even taking the job.
I work for corporate (mostly NGOs, federal contractors, and nonprofit) and I have never seen any managers denied sick leave or PTO due to sickness. However, when I worked for state agencies you will expect to be bleeding at your desk, they won’t fire you but if you take a sick leave they will make your life a living hell for a couple of months.
I remember I worked at a grocery store as a teen they tried to give me a no call no show because they didn't answer the phone (I heard my co-workers say "don't answer that its just someone calling off, if I gotta be here so do they. On top of multiple customers complaining No one answers the phone)...so I told them I tried to call and no one answered the manager said I don't believe that, so I pulled up my phone record and showed 3 minutes and a few seconds. She looked so dumbfounded but still tried to reprimand me so is asked "Was I supposed to come in to tell you I'm not coming in?" 😂😂😂 Her face turned red and not another word was spoken
I have learned to say "(Explain about urgent medical appointment) so *I Will have to be a bit late tomorrow." Never say "Will it be okay?" because that gives them the chance to say No. State the facts and stick to it.
At my place of work it is theoretically possible to be out sick, but they’ll ding you for not putting in a PTO request two weeks in advance. This is obviously a logical policy because 24 hours stomach viruses are some of the polite viruses in the world and they always give us advanced notice.
My boss is very controlling. She complains when I take days off or sick days and even questions me when I'm actually sick. Last year, I couldn't use all my sick days, but this year, I plan to take all my sick days, whether I'm sick or not, and I don't care what my boss thinks.
When I was 21 years old, I was so sick that I had a high fever and lost my voice completely.. I couldn’t even whisper.. My mom had to call my office to let them know I wouldn’t be coming in, and I was written up as a “no-cal, no-show” because I wasn’t the one who called… I was severely ill and couldn’t function or speak..
I remember when i set up an doc appt months in advance (that's how it is). I was in college and come to find out we had a quiz on that day. So i emailed the professor and asked her if i could retake the quiz during her office hours or something because i had an appt (hard to reschedule appts) and that I'd bring a doc note. She said no... so i failed the quiz
I hate professors like that, luckily I got a good professor and managed to ace the class where with the oroginal I failed because she was so strict with the dumb as reasons you needed to do to even take the quiz
Go to the doctors anyway and ask them to write you out of work for as long at ethically possible. I worked in a restaraunt when i was pregnant with my first, i had horrible morning sickness. I dry heaved so bad that i broke blood vesels around my mouth. It looked awful. I looked awful. i tried to call in but.... They said no. So i came in. The manager took one look at me wide eyed. And told me i should probably stay in the back of the house rather then the front. Gee, guess they should have took me for my word when i said i was sick. With hindsight i should have insisted i work my schedualed postion in the front and let the guests see me and i could tell them the truth. Im sure i would have been sent home once a guest called the health department. 😊
I relate to this so much right now. Just last week I got pretty ill and my Doctor wrote me a Medical Certificate stating very clearly I needed rest Thursday and Friday, and my manager said no, I can't be absent on those two very specific days, and now it's Sunday and my sickness has gotten a whole lot worse.
I have never understood the way they treat calling out sick occurrences . If I call out sick for 1 day , it's 1 occurrence . If I call out sick for 5 days in a row , it's 1 occurrence . If I call out sick on Monday , come in to work on Tuesday to try and help out the team but feel worse on Wednesday and call out , that is 2 occurrences .
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I used to work in a call center and if they sent you home for being sick you didn’t take an “occurrence”. I threw up at work and spent 20 minutes arguing with my manager. She said I should leave on my own and take an occurrence. I kept declining saying, I’ll just finish my shift then. She kept saying, I can’t have you throwing up here so you should choose to go home. I eventually won.
I remember I told my boss i wasn’t feeling well and I think I have Covid and I messaged her hours before my shift about it since Covid was going around at the time and I was running a fever and had no sense of smell i immediately knew that’s what it was. And her response was no your fine you have to come into work today it’s probably just a simple sinus infection. I was proud of myself for sticking up to her, I said no I know what I have and I’m staying out and getting tested anyways. Which is a good thing I did bcs I was a waitress and could’ve gotten so many people sick.
At my old job I informed my boss I need to leave to get my hand checked out, she said no. I called in sick the next morning to go to the ER to find out my hand was broken. She never apologize
My work denied my claim when I had RSV and was out for a few days, even got a doctors note (even though they don’t accept doctors notes) and showed them. Still got denied
To be honest, this is what I like about the military, as long as you actually try at work, your higher ups or leadership will do their best to help you
At my job I make my own hours. Rn, I have serious health issues, and some days are worse than others. If I have something scheduled and need the day off I just need to let them know at least 2hrs in advance so they have enough time to get my client rescheduled. But they're very understanding and I like that about them. 😊😊😊❤❤❤
This sort of reminds me of when i asked for bereavement leave because my mother-in-law passed. They APPROVED it for 2 days. On last break, about an hour or two before the end of my shift HR comes up and says MIL doesn't count for bereavement and asked if i still wanted those two days off, unpaid. It was so last minute i just said yes
I’ve had a situation like this happen to me. I was NOTICEABLY not well and was scheduled for a follow up, sooooo this new manager was feeling herself. Well, I ended up being wheeled out of the building. Never returned to that job.
Well... for one, I've never been one to disclose ANYTHING that's personal about myself regarding why I request ANY time off... it's my time to handle MY business. So it needs to be on a "need to know basis" before I begin sharing anything. Imagine revealing all that only to be denied for your own time and then the fact that they know all your personal business... and really, I think that's what prompt people to tell their business... they think it'll make a difference on whether or not their request gets debied or approved. Problem with that is managers begin to get that "entitled to know your business" attitude and think everyone should disclose factors about their personal lives and if you don't, you're considered anti-social.
Doesn't mean they won't try. Unfortunately, many managers don't know the laws, or their obligations under them...nor would they care if they did. In fact, many who do know the laws are hoping that you don't, so they can take advantage.
Employers don't have to give you time off for a medical appointment. You do that on your own time. If you or a family member has a long term illness, then they may need to allow you short term disability or FMLA, depending upon the size of the company, etc.
In some states, they can fire you for no reason/any reason and not tell you. I live in one 😅 so it’s a way they can say they ‘didn’t fire you for that reason’ . But legally if you can prove they denied or fired you for it, the employer can be sued I’ve been told
My supervisor was astonished I asked for the rest of the day off from work after I literally stopped breathing and almost went into cardiac arrest during my dental surgery. I Teams messaged the horrific ordeal and explained how the dental surgeon accidentally placed the breathing apparatus upside down. My supervisor said “ I’m sorry that sounds awful but you need to see your clients. “ I’m a social worker. I went back to work though my mouth was frozen and I had a terrible scare that morning. Of course when my supervisor needs time away she takes as much time as possible. I rarely take time off too. I’m staying there because it pays sooo welll. Social workers can make a lot of money .
I remember once when I was a teen at one of my first jobs at a dunkins I tried calling out sick cuz I had been up all night with a cough, stomach ache, runny nose, headache, fever, throwing up, diarrhea. And my boss said if I didn't come in I would be fired. So I went in anyway. Less then 2 hours into my shift my boss told me to go home cuz apparently a ton of customers saw how sick I was and complained to the manager why I was at work if I was as sick as I was cuz they heard me coughing and saw me running to the bathroom every 10 mins to either have diarrhea or throw up and I looked very pale and disoriented
My supervisor bullied me into staying after I told her I literally threw up on the side of the road on my way to work. She was bitching under her breath about people calling in sick and how she was there with a head cold. Like maybe that's why people are getting sick left and right. 😅 It took the safety supervisor walking into the bathroom while I threw up another two times to advise my supervisor to send me home. Like my supervisor really thought I was making that shit up or something. Had to have another people verify I was in fact sick. 😂 even as a supervisor myself, if someone came to me saying they were not feeling good or throwing up, I'd tell them to go the fuck home. relax and rest, don't worry about work. We'll figure out it without you. This job ain't worth destroying your health over.
My boss wouldn’t let me leave to go and pick up my paperwork for my back surgery- so I missed work and they wrote me up - they really expected for me to come to work after a back procedure.
I was really sick one day. Boss told me I need to go to the doctor. Called and scheduled appointment for next day. Boss loses mind and writes me up for scheduling the appointment during work hours. Keep in mind I don't get off till 8pm. To him, I should go to the doctor early in the morning as soon as they open so I can hurry and be here in time for work lol
I was expecting part 2 to be "Oh, PTO needs to be scheduled 2 weeks out, so does overtime requests. If it takes you 2 weeks for you to do your job processing PTO, it take me 2 weeks to re-arrange my child care".
I hate this... I'm a manager at my company and I can't even think of calling in sick without my boss tearing into me. Then when my employees get sick I let them off. But when everybody's sick?.... You'd think we were allowed to close. But no.
I wasn’t even treated like this working at McDonald’s as a teenager! The only time I’ve gone to work sick is when it was of my own doing (hung over) and ONE time, because I had already gone to the doctor, was already on antibiotics, and knew that what I had going on that day was of EXTREME importance. My boss didn’t force me or guilt trip me. Because of me attending that single day, we got that $22M government contract. Yeah, everyone’s jobs were riding on that presentation.
Gotta work someplace that actually cares enough to offer PTO and sick time. Sadly, too few employers even know what that looks like. Even fewer know how to actually respect the people that bust ass and make the company function and profitable.
I was recovering from a persistant abscess in a very... uncomfortable place. The doctor saw me in the morning and used silver nitrate to seal it. I cane into work promising to work as long as I could, boss and his boss took one look at my pale face and told me to go home lol.
When you're sick, you're sick. You have sick leave, you don't need to get permission to use it. You already earned the sick leave. It would be great though, if you're still lucid, to call the office for a heads up
It’s incredible to me that ppl actually put “the reason” for PTO on their PTO slips. I actually tell my team NOT to fill that part out - because it’s neither my, nor the company’s business what they want their PTO for
It's sad when a work environment gets the point where i have to go tit for tat like this. I've seen work places go from an environment where ppl care about one another and will help out to one where u behave like this clip all because of the leading manager. It really doesn't have to be like this
"You know, per policy, you have to submit your PTO two weeks in advance." I remember having this conversation. The thing is, the policy doesn't say that there can't be some leniency on their part, their hands aren't tied. I was much more willing to go out of my way for my previous supervisor who would have simply said, "You can take tomorrow off if you can get someone in to cover for you." I almost forgot about the boss that never answered his messages so you couldn't even ask him for time off, emergency or otherwise. It's sad how one change in management can completely change the whole complexion of a workplace for the worse and rarely for the better.
I hate needing the doctors note stuff for something that takes a day to heal. Like I had a twisyed muscle or something on my neck I couldn't even get out of bed, like how tf would I be able to get a doctors note?? Also it was on a sunday, like bro.
See this is why you have extra staff on hand just in case someone calls in sick. It’s easier to send somebody home early. If they’re not needed then it is to call someone in.
I'll never forget, one day I was feeling really sick mid-day, and told my boss I was leaving early, and started down the hall. He ran ahead of me, blocking my way, telling me I needed to stay. I asked him to move out of my way. He said, "You can't leave until your shift is over or you find someone to come in and replace you." I threw up all over him. He tried to jump back, but I got his pants and shoes. He was furious. I said " I told you I was sick, and to get out of my way. You physically prevented me from getting to the bathroom in time. Your fault". The entire office was laughing at him.
That, my good fellow, is what's called "unlawful detainment and possibly kidnapping."
@@Lycanthromancer1and also…
Weaponized bodily fluids… 😅
Its never YOUR job to find someone to replace you. I hate when managers do that
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Pro tip: If you call in sick for a few days and your boss demands you get a doctors note to "verify" your illness. When you go to the doc for the note, ask for ADDITIONAL days off to recover and then tell your boss you have to stay out LONGER per the doc and thank him for telling you to see the doc.
That actually happened to me, but not by my request. I woke up one morning sick as a dog. Went to the doc's, and he put me off for a week. The company said I had to go to see a company doc the next day. She took one look at me and put me off for 2 weeks, lol. Would love to have been a fly on the wall when the office were told - which their doc did, not me.
Sick days ain’t unlimited 2 weeks a year and you’re fired. I had a boss who claimed they never got sick and other were just faking it. Fml
@@GodShadowdeath When it's the company doc that puts you off for 2 weeks, they aren't gonna fire you, because their own employee/rep would be called into the employment court to testify about the unjustified dismissal. The courts love that sort of thing.
Is only because of lazy people and the "quiet quitting" generation that managers even feel like they need to police these things. My generation partied all night and showed up the next day in the same clothes and didn't cry about it. Buncha pu**ies these days.
@@GodShadowdeathwhile sick days aren’t unlimited the doctors orders are. If you’re fired over missing work and it was a doctors order to do so due to being sick or an injury and they fire you for said reason that opens a whole case for a lawsuit. Now in certain states in the U.S they can fire you without providing a reason so that’s a different problem entirely and almost impossible to prove or win.
I was a teacher (retired now). Over one weekend, I had gotten sick and my intestinal tract was severely inflamed and swollen. I went to the emergency room on Sunday afternoon and was scheduled for an emergency endoscopy. I warned my principal and chief administrator that this was occurring and that I wouldn’t be in for the next two days. I had already lined up a substitute teacher and filled them in on everything.
Both administrators had the gall to ask me to put off the procedure until our next school vacation (Spring Break), which was 6 weeks away. I politely declined that and told them that I would have a doctor’s note for them when I got back. Doctor over heard that conversation and wrote me a note for 2 weeks off. He wasn’t very happy with them.
"You need to submit your overtime request to me 2 weeks in advance so that I can work in around my schedule" and see how they react to that retort.
I never ASK to be out sick, or go to the doctor. I tell them I will not be working.
I’ve done this and been threatened to be fired, not even joking. Im in a state though where legally they can fire you for no reason at all, or any reason, and they don’t have to tell you. I left that job 😂😂 I agree with you, if anything you will know EXACTLY who you are working for and whether you wanna continue to work there or not .
Same
Same here. I am off sick from work at this very moment. Phoning in sick is just giving them warning that I won't be in. But I live in the UK so I know they can't fire me.
@@victoriacamaillepoole5828 Gotta be MI or FL
@@victoriacamaillepoole5828 Well, sounds like a GREAT state to live in. America, i assume? You probably mean a state inside the US?
I found out last week that our general manager has had blood poisoning, liver issues, a concussion, and intestinal blockage. She still went to work and was late a few times because of it. The boss has thought about replacing her.
I may be her replacement. But, I don’t want to work under a boss like that.
Exactly
Your boss is a literal monster wtf.
Working under a devil is probably not gonna feel great for you.
I was fired because I wouldn't cancel an appointment I had with a specialist who had JUST called me to to come to the office the next afternoon to go over some test results.
I had immediately told my manager that I would need to leave about 45 mins early. And he said I couldn't do that. When I told him that I NEEDED to go to this appointment he told me I was fired and watched me collect my things ...
That's ridiculous
This happened to me. They demanded that I come in. I did, I was very sick. I looked like death warmed over. They sent me home 2 hours later but almost *everyone* I worked with was sick the next day and for the rest of the week.
It was good idea then everyone needs to blame management 😂
Lemme guess: They were transmitted diseases deniers
Same here at the beginning of COVID. Boss said no salary management calls out sick. He was the first and the worst to get sick after I came in.
I worked for a woman who told me I'd taken off too much sick time with migraines. Then I come in sick with bronchitis and my co-workers had to go to her and say let her go ..... or we'll all get sick.
Only one thing...bronchitis isn't contagious, but they didn't know that.
It is high time that employers figure out they can't screw with people anymore. We need half a day off to deal with something and you say no? We will remember that and it will bite you back 3 times as hard.
I started having an ocular migraine while working this morning. I phoned my manager to say what was happening. Immediately i was told to stop working and put the job back into the list and close the focs i was working on. Then i was told to go and do what i need to do, be safe and they would call me on the hour for a welfare check. If i needed sick leave they would take care of it ASAP. I was fine after two hours and was back at my work, only at my insistence and only after I'd eaten the lunch my manager had organised to be delivered. Otherwise they would have my VPN disabled. They are strict with sick policy as per the law and their enhanced rules, we are valued and our health is very important.
Love this for you all
Wow, that's a great company! I hope I can find one as caring.
in 1988, when i was 18, i was fired for refusing overtime. i had already worked 85 hours and was physically and mentally exhausted. It was a security job, and the supervisor said I had to cover for his shift because he had a family dinner that day. i had already worked 2 8 hour shifts that day. he insisted i told him i just couldnt he said if i didnt do it dont bother coming back long story short they fired me for insubordination of a superior i was young and naive didnt know what they did was illegal
I spent ten years in private security myself - during your training in the region I live, you are told to explicitly that it’s illegal for security personnel to work more than sixteen hours in a row without eight hours off. Of course, some companies just flat out ignore this and make you put in shifts of 18-20 hours or more but you can threaten to report them for it: just be sure to keep copies of log and other relevant paperwork to make your case in court…
Veronica's boss has the most condescending passive-aggressive voice I've ever heard.
So does Veronica..
And it turns out I work with her
you havent hear the voice of my boss
I DO NOT ask to be out sick. I let them know I’m not coming. And if I ask for time off and get denied, I do just like V does… not happening!!
I'm addicted to the way the manager says "ok" when it's so very clearly NOT okay with her🤣
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I'm a manager of a small team and I definitely subscribe to the "one hand washes the other" attitude. Sometimes *I* need time off on short notice, and because I treat my team right, they are always willing to step up and cover for my absence. It's a two-way street.
Yup, my two bosses are great with this, too. Even family dramas can be worked around. When they need a hand or a stay late- no problem! Everyone is happy.
Veronica is all about boundaries and I’m here for it.
I had an employer say to me. I need you to start at 7.30 am and work until 7pm on Thursday.
I was on 3 weeks of afternoon shifts and 1 week of nights and when I finally had a day shift he would ask me to stay until 7pm in the one week I wanted to be with my family.
This one week I had enough! he gave me a written warning for dropping off the wrong paper to a printing press. We had 2 kinds that looked the same and they didn't put forestry on the pick slip so I delivered Non forestry. it was wrong he gave me a written warning and said don't forget you are on until 7pm. I said no worries he left at 4pm and I followed him out of the gate he said where are you going I said to get food. I just didn't say it was at my house!
The next day he asked why I didn't work until 7 they needed me. I said I was so stressed over my warning i couldn't possibly stay. It was a good night being home with my family.
I don't ask for permission to be sick or to go to the doctor. I just call out. It's been 17 years and not one of my bosses has had a problem with it yet. If they do, so what?
We all need Veronica's mindset companies have gotten to comfortable taking advantage of their employees.
Veronica looked like she needed to call a funeral home! Chica was looking pretty rough there lol
I love Veronica. My managers are scared to talk to me. I like it that way. I’m the only one here that tells them no. I do my job. That’s it. I don’t want a promotion. I don’t want to move up. Im not taking one for the team. I do my job extremely well, and I go home. I actually had one boss tell me I had to do my part like everyone else. I am currently covering 3 people’s shift. Ok. I will work like everyone else. The second day a different manager asked why I’ve slowed down. I told him what happened. He apologized and said he would keep her away from me from now on. They are so screwed when I quit. Luckily one or two know it.
I can't imagine a manager denying this request. An urgent blood test results? I'm surprised Veronica even complied.
People remember it is far better to ask forgiveness than beg permission. I’m surprised Veronica asked instead of calling in sick.
Im walking out that door when i need to walk out that door.
Once, I was told that since I had a head, two arms and two legs, and was still standing , I wasn't, and couldn’t be sick.
I did come in sick, and since my sickness was related to allergies sustained by the work environment, I sustained further injury. 22 years later, I still can't smell or taste anything and continue to suffer daily sinus pain.
Lots of cancer patients fit that bill, therefore cancer patients are not sick according to your employer!
Once I called in early sick because I had a bad cold. Not 5 mins later my then supervisor calls me and says I have to go in because he needs the day off. Being the naive person I was, I let him make me go into work. And everyone was like "didn't you call in sick" mind you I'm hacking up a lung and reply "yes but my supervisor told me he needed the time off." Grrrr this was when I was afraid of losing my job cause I was still new. Now I realize I should have just told him to stuff it. 😅
I would Quit that job if my boss treated me like that.
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Sadly many bosses are like that, even to the most loyal hard working people
@@TonyAnimationyt By the way I am seeing some copycat channels on RUclips that are using the same audio recording as you.
@@professormadlad7773 The thing is, this channel is also using someone else's audio, and the good thing is she is given the credits to that channel in the video title so no issues
How do you ask if you are sick? You just call and tell them you are sick. I had one of these bosses once. They always make you feel bad for being sick. Which always resulted in me healing slower due to stress. It always made me sick 2 days longer. 😉
I started doing this as well. I can’t call in sick so don’t call me to come in early or ask me to stay late.
What are you talking about can't call in sick stop being a pushover. The boss is only doing to you what you let them.
@@TheErnie1964 I left that job 11 years ago but thanks for the “encouragement”.
Im sick and denied me time for treatment?! That is a no go!!
Some jobs will state in their description before you sign the employment contract that there is mandatory overtime. Meaning that if you refuse you are subject to disciplinary action up to and including termination. Check that before saying this. Or even taking the job.
Lousy working conditions like that are usually easy to replace.
I just got over being sick, and my boss was fuming about it. I'm still hearing him complain.
Veronica was hanging on for dear life lol
I work for corporate (mostly NGOs, federal contractors, and nonprofit) and I have never seen any managers denied sick leave or PTO due to sickness. However, when I worked for state agencies you will expect to be bleeding at your desk, they won’t fire you but if you take a sick leave they will make your life a living hell for a couple of months.
I love that she has a little animated Louis Vuitton
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I remember I worked at a grocery store as a teen they tried to give me a no call no show because they didn't answer the phone (I heard my co-workers say "don't answer that its just someone calling off, if I gotta be here so do they. On top of multiple customers complaining No one answers the phone)...so I told them I tried to call and no one answered the manager said I don't believe that, so I pulled up my phone record and showed 3 minutes and a few seconds. She looked so dumbfounded but still tried to reprimand me so is asked
"Was I supposed to come in to tell you I'm not coming in?" 😂😂😂
Her face turned red and not another word was spoken
Doctor:"This person HAS to drink water to LIVE *copies same note 100 times* here this is for all your coworkers as well...."
I literally just went through this 2 min ago. My scheduler contacted me asking to do over time the week I needed off but was denied
I have learned to say "(Explain about urgent medical appointment) so *I Will have to be a bit late tomorrow." Never say "Will it be okay?" because that gives them the chance to say No. State the facts and stick to it.
At my place of work it is theoretically possible to be out sick, but they’ll ding you for not putting in a PTO request two weeks in advance.
This is obviously a logical policy because 24 hours stomach viruses are some of the polite viruses in the world and they always give us advanced notice.
"we treat everyone like family here"
*Proceeds to not treat them like family*
Nah, they're treated exactly like family.
Another reason amongst many that I'm glad to be union
My boss is very controlling. She complains when I take days off or sick days and even questions me when I'm actually sick. Last year, I couldn't use all my sick days, but this year, I plan to take all my sick days, whether I'm sick or not, and I don't care what my boss thinks.
When I was 21 years old, I was so sick that I had a high fever and lost my voice completely.. I couldn’t even whisper.. My mom had to call my office to let them know I wouldn’t be coming in, and I was written up as a “no-cal, no-show” because I wasn’t the one who called… I was severely ill and couldn’t function or speak..
I've learned to stop asking. I tell them I won't be in if I'm sick.
I remember when i set up an doc appt months in advance (that's how it is). I was in college and come to find out we had a quiz on that day. So i emailed the professor and asked her if i could retake the quiz during her office hours or something because i had an appt (hard to reschedule appts) and that I'd bring a doc note. She said no... so i failed the quiz
I'd have gone straight to the Dean's office and filed a complaint.
I hate professors like that, luckily I got a good professor and managed to ace the class where with the oroginal I failed because she was so strict with the dumb as reasons you needed to do to even take the quiz
Then they start the "mandatory overtime" and cancel all pre-approved time off.
Mandatory overtime? Okay, only if you're willing to pay time and a half for every hour of overtime and let me take a week long vacation afterwards.
how it should have gone,
manager: would you like to work overtime?
employee: no
manager: np , thanks for all your hard work
THE END
Go to the doctors anyway and ask them to write you out of work for as long at ethically possible.
I worked in a restaraunt when i was pregnant with my first, i had horrible morning sickness. I dry heaved so bad that i broke blood vesels around my mouth. It looked awful. I looked awful. i tried to call in but.... They said no. So i came in. The manager took one look at me wide eyed. And told me i should probably stay in the back of the house rather then the front. Gee, guess they should have took me for my word when i said i was sick.
With hindsight i should have insisted i work my schedualed postion in the front and let the guests see me and i could tell them the truth. Im sure i would have been sent home once a guest called the health department. 😊
Is denying sick time even legal? That doesn't sound legal.
I relate to this so much right now.
Just last week I got pretty ill and my Doctor wrote me a Medical Certificate stating very clearly I needed rest Thursday and Friday, and my manager said no, I can't be absent on those two very specific days, and now it's Sunday and my sickness has gotten a whole lot worse.
I have never understood the way they treat calling out sick occurrences . If I call out sick for 1 day , it's 1 occurrence . If I call out sick for 5 days in a row , it's 1 occurrence . If I call out sick on Monday , come in to work on Tuesday to try and help out the team but feel worse on Wednesday and call out , that is 2 occurrences .
Miss V is good at filing
Filing all in her memory to use when needed
She MIRRORS these narc bosses and gives them back what they dish out
Love it !!!! 😊💜⚖️
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I used to work in a call center and if they sent you home for being sick you didn’t take an “occurrence”. I threw up at work and spent 20 minutes arguing with my manager. She said I should leave on my own and take an occurrence. I kept declining saying, I’ll just finish my shift then. She kept saying, I can’t have you throwing up here so you should choose to go home. I eventually won.
I remember I told my boss i wasn’t feeling well and I think I have Covid and I messaged her hours before my shift about it since Covid was going around at the time and I was running a fever and had no sense of smell i immediately knew that’s what it was. And her response was no your fine you have to come into work today it’s probably just a simple sinus infection. I was proud of myself for sticking up to her, I said no I know what I have and I’m staying out and getting tested anyways. Which is a good thing I did bcs I was a waitress and could’ve gotten so many people sick.
At my old job I informed my boss I need to leave to get my hand checked out, she said no. I called in sick the next morning to go to the ER to find out my hand was broken. She never apologize
That right v and former boss pull that same shid and when I was needed I was no where to be found
My work denied my claim when I had RSV and was out for a few days, even got a doctors note (even though they don’t accept doctors notes) and showed them. Still got denied
To be honest, this is what I like about the military, as long as you actually try at work, your higher ups or leadership will do their best to help you
At my job I make my own hours. Rn, I have serious health issues, and some days are worse than others. If I have something scheduled and need the day off I just need to let them know at least 2hrs in advance so they have enough time to get my client rescheduled. But they're very understanding and I like that about them. 😊😊😊❤❤❤
This sort of reminds me of when i asked for bereavement leave because my mother-in-law passed. They APPROVED it for 2 days. On last break, about an hour or two before the end of my shift HR comes up and says MIL doesn't count for bereavement and asked if i still wanted those two days off, unpaid.
It was so last minute i just said yes
I’ve had a situation like this happen to me. I was NOTICEABLY not well and was scheduled for a follow up, sooooo this new manager was feeling herself. Well, I ended up being wheeled out of the building. Never returned to that job.
Well... for one, I've never been one to disclose ANYTHING that's personal about myself regarding why I request ANY time off... it's my time to handle MY business. So it needs to be on a "need to know basis" before I begin sharing anything. Imagine revealing all that only to be denied for your own time and then the fact that they know all your personal business... and really, I think that's what prompt people to tell their business... they think it'll make a difference on whether or not their request gets debied or approved. Problem with that is managers begin to get that "entitled to know your business" attitude and think everyone should disclose factors about their personal lives and if you don't, you're considered anti-social.
Ex-boss called me while on sick leave to threatened to sue me. Obviously I found a new job quick.
They cannot deny you going to a doctor or having to deal with anything medically.
Doesn't mean they won't try. Unfortunately, many managers don't know the laws, or their obligations under them...nor would they care if they did. In fact, many who do know the laws are hoping that you don't, so they can take advantage.
@@markouellette8973 employer duty of care and Health and Safety
Employers don't have to give you time off for a medical appointment. You do that on your own time. If you or a family member has a long term illness, then they may need to allow you short term disability or FMLA, depending upon the size of the company, etc.
In some states, they can fire you for no reason/any reason and not tell you. I live in one 😅 so it’s a way they can say they ‘didn’t fire you for that reason’ . But legally if you can prove they denied or fired you for it, the employer can be sued I’ve been told
My supervisor was astonished I asked for the rest of the day off from work after I literally stopped breathing and almost went into cardiac arrest during my dental surgery. I Teams messaged the horrific ordeal and explained how the dental surgeon accidentally placed the breathing apparatus upside down. My supervisor said “ I’m sorry that sounds awful but you need to see your clients. “
I’m a social worker. I went back to work though my mouth was frozen and I had a terrible scare that morning.
Of course when my supervisor needs time away she takes as much time as possible.
I rarely take time off too.
I’m staying there because it pays sooo welll. Social workers can make a lot of money .
I remember once when I was a teen at one of my first jobs at a dunkins I tried calling out sick cuz I had been up all night with a cough, stomach ache, runny nose, headache, fever, throwing up, diarrhea. And my boss said if I didn't come in I would be fired. So I went in anyway. Less then 2 hours into my shift my boss told me to go home cuz apparently a ton of customers saw how sick I was and complained to the manager why I was at work if I was as sick as I was cuz they heard me coughing and saw me running to the bathroom every 10 mins to either have diarrhea or throw up and I looked very pale and disoriented
And the problem with this is you get fired for standing up for yourself
My supervisor bullied me into staying after I told her I literally threw up on the side of the road on my way to work. She was bitching under her breath about people calling in sick and how she was there with a head cold. Like maybe that's why people are getting sick left and right. 😅 It took the safety supervisor walking into the bathroom while I threw up another two times to advise my supervisor to send me home. Like my supervisor really thought I was making that shit up or something. Had to have another people verify I was in fact sick. 😂 even as a supervisor myself, if someone came to me saying they were not feeling good or throwing up, I'd tell them to go the fuck home. relax and rest, don't worry about work. We'll figure out it without you. This job ain't worth destroying your health over.
Words of wisdom to live by = Don't be a dick. You never know when karma's gonna hit.
“I refuse your refusal”
Don't mess with the V 😮
Why did you ask? You tell them you have a medical and they have to let you go
My boss wouldn’t let me leave to go and pick up my paperwork for my back surgery- so I missed work and they wrote me up - they really expected for me to come to work after a back procedure.
I was really sick one day. Boss told me I need to go to the doctor. Called and scheduled appointment for next day. Boss loses mind and writes me up for scheduling the appointment during work hours. Keep in mind I don't get off till 8pm. To him, I should go to the doctor early in the morning as soon as they open so I can hurry and be here in time for work lol
Absolutely!! Hey I can't even tell you are wearing a wig! Looks great!
I was expecting part 2 to be "Oh, PTO needs to be scheduled 2 weeks out, so does overtime requests. If it takes you 2 weeks for you to do your job processing PTO, it take me 2 weeks to re-arrange my child care".
I hate this... I'm a manager at my company and I can't even think of calling in sick without my boss tearing into me. Then when my employees get sick I let them off.
But when everybody's sick?.... You'd think we were allowed to close. But no.
If a guy said that on jobsite to his boss he would be fired
What goes around comes around.
Hell yes Miss V.!!! 👏👏👏
I wasn’t even treated like this working at McDonald’s as a teenager! The only time I’ve gone to work sick is when it was of my own doing (hung over) and ONE time, because I had already gone to the doctor, was already on antibiotics, and knew that what I had going on that day was of EXTREME importance. My boss didn’t force me or guilt trip me. Because of me attending that single day, we got that $22M government contract. Yeah, everyone’s jobs were riding on that presentation.
Just call in sick, and get a better job.
Gotta work someplace that actually cares enough to offer PTO and sick time. Sadly, too few employers even know what that looks like. Even fewer know how to actually respect the people that bust ass and make the company function and profitable.
Don't ask for permission. If you have sick time you should be able to use it for medical
I love veronica
I was recovering from a persistant abscess in a very... uncomfortable place. The doctor saw me in the morning and used silver nitrate to seal it. I cane into work promising to work as long as I could, boss and his boss took one look at my pale face and told me to go home lol.
Business decisions go both ways.
I've never asked to use any leave, sick or annual. I'm letting you know I'm not coming.
...of course the mistake was checking in in the first place
I am TELLING you I will be out. I'm not ASKING. Be prepared.
When you're sick, you're sick. You have sick leave, you don't need to get permission to use it. You already earned the sick leave. It would be great though, if you're still lucid, to call the office for a heads up
It’s incredible to me that ppl actually put “the reason” for PTO on their PTO slips. I actually tell my team NOT to fill that part out - because it’s neither my, nor the company’s business what they want their PTO for
It's sad when a work environment gets the point where i have to go tit for tat like this. I've seen work places go from an environment where ppl care about one another and will help out to one where u behave like this clip all because of the leading manager. It really doesn't have to be like this
Do one about two faced managers. When they put all the blame on you even though it’s their fault
Fair enough 😂😂
"You know, per policy, you have to submit your PTO two weeks in advance." I remember having this conversation. The thing is, the policy doesn't say that there can't be some leniency on their part, their hands aren't tied. I was much more willing to go out of my way for my previous supervisor who would have simply said, "You can take tomorrow off if you can get someone in to cover for you." I almost forgot about the boss that never answered his messages so you couldn't even ask him for time off, emergency or otherwise. It's sad how one change in management can completely change the whole complexion of a workplace for the worse and rarely for the better.
I hate needing the doctors note stuff for something that takes a day to heal.
Like I had a twisyed muscle or something on my neck I couldn't even get out of bed, like how tf would I be able to get a doctors note??
Also it was on a sunday, like bro.
dont' explain. just say no.
See this is why you have extra staff on hand just in case someone calls in sick. It’s easier to send somebody home early. If they’re not needed then it is to call someone in.