Is MyWhoosh The Zwift Killer?
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- In today's video, I am diving deep into MyWhoosh-an intriguing, free-to-use cycling app that's turning heads but still has room to grow. In this video, I will dive deep into my Whoosh's strategies to take on Zwift and why users haven't been jumping on this platform.
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00:00 Intro
01:28 Copy Zwift
03:52 More Routes
04:42 Events
05:39 Price
06:28 Final Thoughts
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Haven't tried it yet, but I think this is exactly what I've been looking for. No crowds, no annoying "Ride On Thumbs" all over the place. No cost....Perfect!
Absolutely!!
It’s free so I just switched.
@zenfishbike I agree! All this social community herding is annoying and overbearing in the least! If there's an ATV app I'd love to try it out! The competition renumeration is tempting though!
When something is free, you are the product. Check the permissions you give when the program is installed. Files, folders, full access is required, at least in PCs..thats insane.
@@TheRimBrakeGuy Very insightful, good to keep in mind and look for.
With the latest Zwift price increase, I’ll be switching to MyWhoosh when my Zwift subscription is up.
Jep. Four days left at Zwift. 20€ That's way to expensive...
You make excellent comparisons between competing products and explain well why some thrive and others need to be lights-out from the beginning in order to challenge them.
I’ve been playing around with mywoosh and Rolla before I’m locked away in a Canadian winter paying $20/month for zwift. I’m excited that there is competition in this space.
I haven't heard of MyWhoosh until the UCI made a deal with them. That may help them to grow but it needs to target amateur racing & social stuff in order to be a real competitor
First time I heard of MyWhoosh and learnt about it thanks to you. This clearly shows that they haven’t done enough marketing and advertising to reach out to a wider audience!
I have dabbled with My Whoosh a couple of times.... but went back to Zwift... I am giving it a go again... we shall see what developments happen over the next year.... great video!
I am waiting for Mac OS compatibility, but I am definitely interested in trying it out.
It’s on their roadmap and hopefully it comes out pretty soon.
Same.
So it’s not on iPad either?
@@NeonGrayEditsit is available for the iPad and iPhone
@@SmartBikeTrainersok, so streaming this to an ATV will temporarily fill the ATV void.
Do you have a vid talking about the on boarding process? You mentioned it being cumbersome! Thanks
Good, well researched video. Thanks for posting. When it comes to Mac I'll have a try.
As other fellow cyclists mentioned an iOS compatibility is a precondition for me to give it a try. Zwift has been an integral part of my falling back in love with cycling and I do enjoy the „banter“ during group-rides.
I also think, that the free price tag will disappear as soon as there are sufficient users on the platform. But that’s kind of obvious.
Thanx for yet another excellent video of yours. Thanks for this!
Not to mention the obvious attempt at sportswashing here with the usually corrupt sports organization (UCI) opening up their pockets for cash from dubious dictatorships.
So glad competition to Zwift is starting to take shape … as much as Zwift is good, it is too expensive IMO. Hopefully this will either push Zwift to reconsider their fees or push people away from it.
Agree. For winter I'm willing to pay the price for the three months or so, when I know I'll be using it quite a lot, to get the most out of the trainer, which wasn't cheap either. However, for the rest of the year I want to be outside as much as possible and only use Zwift a few times when the weather is very bad, then the price is way too high and only one free (and slightly interrupted) session a month is in that regard not enough.
Its cheap as peanuts, you can ride 3/4/5 more times a week, no need to outdoor kit, saves on cafe stops. I use it all year round, keeps me in good shape for doing the odd outdoor sportive. I understand the allure of outdoor riding, but the convenience for me outweighs everything else. Plus I have temperature controlled setup so dont worry of cold or hot days
@@jeskli11 15$ per month is expensive? That's three medium cappuccinos in US. Coffee price is ridiculous, not the subscription fee. But I agree, I wish there should be a discounted year subscription, that would ensure a more stable income for Zwift. I ride from October until March/April then I go outside.
Super cheap for what it provides.
@@tommylobotommy It also depends on your income… I'm an university student with no permanent income. It's also worth noting Zwift subscription is the same price all over the world. I, for example, live in the Czech Republic, where the minimum wage is about half to let's say Germany or Austria, in the US it depends on state, but the average wage there is more than double of what we have in Czechia. Translated, if Zwift for you is like three cups of coffee, for some people like me it might be rather like five uber-expensive cups of coffee I wouldn't buy either.
This looks super interesting. I'm loyal to Zwift at the moment because it is all I have known and helped me fall in love with cycling when I live in a place where I cannot always ride outside (snow/cold). However, I am always happy to see competition in this space as it will make everyone better off and I will always try a new competitor and give them a try.
Once they launch on Mac anyway...
Intro music is sick! Good review.
Whoa.
This looks interesting. I'm going to have to give MyWoosh a try
Love it, ride my Handbike several times a week.. I'm not switching back to Zwift again. It runs super well and I find it very user-friendly.
I changed from Zwift to Rouvy this year. Enjoying it much much more.
im super happy zwift has some competiton. Definitely gonna swich to mywoosh, at least until next year. Where i live, zwift costs quite a lot and when im not riding i always have that in the back of my head "i paid so i should be zwifting". Putting some weird pressure on myself.
Looking forward to further development of apps like mywoosh, etc. Compared to regular "gaming" industry, they're very much in their early stages in pretty much every aspect. One of them being monetization
I agree with the high cost of Zwift. In Canada, I pay more than $20 per month. I have had a couple of health issues this year so I could not ride for 5 months, overall. I should have suspended my account but didn't. When I went back to riding I definitely felt the pressure on myself to ride more. Finally, I suspended my account to remove that pressure.
Will definitely try it out when winter comes along. Still a fan of Rouvy though which I will be renewing again this year.
a yearly roundup of what's new on Zwift since the "last season" aka sometime in February-April, when most of the users got outside again, would be much appreciated!
Will definitely check it out soon. Thinking on using this platform for my next Ironman prep.
Thanks for a good run down. I'll try it and see how it is
Nice app and free! So many training plans.
Its a nice option if you dont want to ride indoors all month long.
They need to create meetups ?
Steuctured group rides ? Training rides ?
There are workout group rides!
They could add missions. Like a 5 minute mission to do a leadout for an AI sprinter. Or stay in the wheel of your sprint-train and do the sprint yourself.
I've been using MyWoosh for a time now (from Zwift) and having been using it mainly for maintaining my outdoor cycling fitness. So generally only use it for training. Therefore the lack of a social vibe doesn't affect me at all. Be interesting to see the "social riding" vs "practical" (racing and training riding) ratio if there is such a split amongst users.
This is what I would be using the platform for. How does it do with maintaining fitness? Do you feel like you can increase your fitness with this platform? Currently, I am using Xert and I am really happy with the platform. However, if I can save a few bucks per month, that’s always a plus in this ever increasing expensive world. Thank you!!
I don't reall get an argument people make with this social aspect. It's a winter indoor training tool not a nice coffee ride during summer with your mates :)
I don't like people, and I'm tight, this looks like the app for me.
Do you know if a secondary power meter is mandatory?
I Love the racing on Zwift and you can do that 24/7. the racing depends on the network effect, as it's just much more fun to ride with others, and that's where Zwift has this huge advantage over all other competitors
Thanks for posting. Definitely will try and give feedback.
Do they have or can they add robo Pacer Group rides at varying speeds and 24-7 I think would win them more users?
I'm going to give this a shot. I generally do structured training only in the winter with trainerroad, but it lacks the visuals that make zwift interesting. If I could put my trainerroad calendar into whoosh all at one time and not have to deal with the (frankly pretty bad) workout interface in zwift, that seems like a great use case. The fact that it's free seems like icing on the cake.
I agree with you that if they were able to steal some of the trainerroad AI Workout plan secret sauce and integrate it into their calendar, I would probably just wholesale switch over to it and never look back.
A lot of RGT users are now using indie velo. I gave this a try but for some reason it’s all limited to 30fps by design and with graphics on high and riders on screen it drops too low to be any good. Zwift competition is always good, keeps things moving forward
Nice review! Thanks! I will try it! Is there a useable elevation map while riding? Because Zwift HUD is lack of this feature.
There is a reason why Zwift cycles through availability of the different worlds and routes. Simple to keep it fresh for the riders and mostly that all players are not scattered on all the routes making them look half empty. Mywhoosh should do the same, and actually a lot more tightly since they have fewer players.
They should at least show number of Live users in the list view (for each area and map)...
@@noggintubeyes that makes sense, but still scatters people on different routes and still by far most people are looking at the social part if you look at complaints on Mywhoosh.
@familiekontoen1955 I disagree! That's a terrible idea! Why do you want to be pigeonholed??? I do not support that at all!
that's one of the things I hate about Zwift. I can't plan around Zwift's availability of routes. I want to ride up the big mountain in France NOW, because today is the day I actually have time for it, but exactly then it is not available. Super annoying. I don't care about other riders in the virtual world. If I would I could always join a group ride.
Fantastic thank you very much indeed. You've been a tremendous help
Switched the myWhoosh after the recent Zwift price hike. As a non virtual racer, this is spot on!
I'm new to indoor training and i'm on mywhoosh and i like it. I haven't tried swift yet, though.
Thanks for the review
Happy with it! Looking forward for further development. What elese can you ask for, it is FREE!
I tried mywoosh, my first thought was the kick on erg mode was terrible. And just like Zwift, the UI is too busy. I'd really like the ability to enable/disable features on the screen, and even moving things around. Those were the negatives. On the positive i was really impressed by the grafics. For all of the hometrainer programs, i'd like to see a spotify or equal build in. Playing some music on a workout, and some audiable pointers for effort.
The new update lets you turn all the screen graphics off so you only see yourself and your scenery.
Excellent and objective review. Good job
Thank you
I heard about MyWhoosh in a podcast literally yesterday and now you do a review?!😱
For free gotta try it, gonna try it tomorrow.
Haha… looking forward to hearing what you think of the platform. Ride on 👍
Paid promo campaign 😂
The interface looks so much cleaner and easier to navigate. gonna try it out.
It looks very cool!!! Lv 50 Zwift here, going to have to really be better for me to switch. But I’ll give it a try. Great review btw.
Will try as soon as they have it for the Apple TV.
Tariq thanks :) Nice review :)
Certainly going to download it this weekend
Thanks for the video. I tried the platform a while back. I didn’t care for the fact that it didn’t have a dedicated Apple TV app. Had to operate it from my phone and then mirror it to my TV. Overall, the experience was just ‘OK’. The graphics and user interface are decent and the setup was pretty straightforward. But, I found the course selection to be rather limited and like you mentioned there is really no social aspect to speak of now with so few users. I may go back and take another look later - especially once they add more features and especially alternate routes. But, they really need to create a dedicated Apple TV app as well.
I have an ELITE cilosimulator, I downloaded my whoossh for pc and it synchronized with ANT + the first time, in the following sessions it does not synchronize, what should I do? thank you
Wil definitely try, good tip 👍
My just stoped workin in adroid 9 after app update. anyway to keep running the older version ? obs; the same problem with a windows 10 on a i5 samsung notebook... any help?
I use Zwift once every couple of months as I am more of a runner, so paying the monthly fee for one or two rides is annoying, this sounds like a great alternative
Zwift is still free for running
Am definitely going to try it now.
Using it with my Stages SB20, for structured workouts on ERG mode. Very happy as I'm an infrequent user and wouldn't pay the Zwift fee as I don't use it sufficiently. Bravo UAE!!!!
I really like it. But sometimes I have had technical issues, like rides disappearing. But I can only see it getting better. Also, I feel that my rides on Zwift are faster than I actually ride outdoors. On MyWhoosh it's more correct. My speed and hill climbing seem far more accurate on MyWoosh. Great video by the way.
Nice Vid - thanks. But im going with zwift, because I am critical of the cooperation with the UCI. But hopefully the competition has positive side effects on Zwift and new features.
Thank you for this vdo.
Is it possible to ride your own road like Wahoo magic road?
No they don’t offer that feature at the moment.
Interesting I didn't even know about this up until I saw this video I'll give it a try
Nice review. I found the same with Rouvy. Im level 50 Zwift and like riding with others. With Rouvy there are hardly any others to ride with, and it gets kind of boring, despite the scenery.
Rouvy - follow the challenges if you want to find other riders. There's typically heaps of riders on the routes that are part of the current challenges.
Is the TrainingPeaks functionality corrected for time yet? In the USA, I get my TP workout at midnight. When I tried to use the workout with MyWhoosh, it was always loaded on the MyWhoosh calendar for the previous day, making it unavailable to select in the calendar. So the workout which I receive on my Wednesday for example, is loaded in MyWhoosh on Tuesday, but since it's Wednesday I cannot select Tuesday's workouts... And what's very odd is that even if I change my TP upload to 6:00 AM Wednesday, it still loads into MyWhoosh on "Tuesday" even if it wasn't there and available on actual Tuesday. I spent too much time trying to get MyWhoosh to help me resolve this to go back now and try again. If someone knows it works in the USA now, please tell me. Thanks!
I noticed this issue too early on. However it seems to be resolved now and my TP workouts are showing up correctly.
@@SmartBikeTrainers OK, thank you! I will look into it again. I appreciate your response.
I use windows/linux and am considering MyWhoosh for this winter over Zwift, but I'm scratching my head here at how they don't have a Mac version available.. That said, are there many flat routes in Arabia (i prefer flats)? Also, any word on if they're going to include any routes in East Asia, China in particular? I've dreamed of a virtual crit race route modelled after Dishui Lake in Shanghai.
Rouvy has.
Maybe now that RGT is being eliminated by Wahoo, MyWhoosh will gain many RGT users. I think it will take National race organizations to join UCI in promoting their own Esports championships to get more of the real road racing community. It will never kill Zwift, but it doesn't have to as long as Zwift continues to have erroneous drafting algorithms.
I simply don't see that happening since Whoosh is a Zwift copy, while RGT had a different focus (realistic racing experience and community events). An RGT user is just as likely to pick Zwift over Whoosh as anyone else.
Many RGT users?? 😂 There were barely any people on RGT
@@mjf1975that’s why so many people liked it, not overcrowded like Zwift.
I recently tried it and now I am riding on the platform for few days….It is nice, it has good plans, variety of events (I can never find battle of the bots ans some othera), but it lacks audience as you said..I am missing a crowd like on zwift, and also more events every hour, or bot ride 24/7…there is not much people on it yet so I am always the last one everywhere :))
But it has a potencial and the biggest plus - it is free.
I think that the 30 FPS is locked. Changing the video setting from the simplest to the ultra setting (if your computer can do it) on my computer does not change it - it is still 30, which is ok. I have not noticed any stuttering. I currently have no sound and music in game, only in the opening menu - I looked around on the net and I think they are reworking it so it it is not working, but it would be nice to have some basic sounds when riding. Also there are some weird pre-set options in the submenu. When you first start the ant+ is turned off in the sub-menu (it took me some time to find out why my ant+ power meter was not connecting, I thought there was a conflict with other apps in the OS system or something with the firewall) .The social element is lacking. Mostly I ride alone among bots. Otherwise it is very similar to Zwift. I think my whoosh has a better trainining section - the workouts are logically separated into sub-categories - threshold, endurance, sweetspot, VO2 max, tempo etc. The workouts are mostly really "classical", no Zwift circus stuff, more like trainer road, there is lots of them and the purpose and the structure of each workout is explained in its description. Erg mode has problem setting the right intensity, if the workout says 250w, in erg mode I always end up doing 265w or 270w even though I keep a stable pedalling frequency. This only affects higher intensities above 200w so I cannot use erg mode for interval workouts (I use Elite Suito).
I can't use my crono fluid trainer with a speed sensor for power output. Is it possible to simply install a power meter to my indoor bike?
You can get pedal power like the Assioma Uno for example and that should work
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I did try it beginning of the year - I am jumping from running/cycling all the time (depending on next race) so the Zwift subscription seemed a bit too much for not being active all the time.
I uninstalled it because my gf called me during a workout (I was using my Android phone (latest Android)) and then the workout could not be resumed and I had to start a new one. Being interested in numbers I lost some data and it didn't feel good. Probably the solution is for the app to ask for additional permissions so it can run in the background (as Pixel phones are restrictive my default).
Anyway - I will give it another try when the weather worsens and I restart my off season training.
Can't get it to work with my Kinetic trainer. So far technical support have ignored all my emails. Free is too expensive.
Thanks for your information I appreciate your effort I would like to ask about compatible sensor with my wohoosh application I have garmin but looks like not compatible with my wohoosh app. Can you share the best sensors. I’m using ziweft and it’s good with garmin. Thanks again for your effort
You need a power meter to be able to use MyWhoosh. Something like Assioma, Wahoo powrlink, Garmin Rally, or any other crank based power meter should work.Unlike Zwift, MyWhoosh currently isn’t compatible with speed sensors.
As far as heart rate, most heart rate sensors should work. As long as your sensor is Bluetooth compatible and Bluetooth is turned on on your PC or tablet, they should pair with each other fine. Hope that helps!
Thanks really appreciate your support I’m always following your recommendations.
Going to try it for sure ,, Great vid ,, Subbed .. I have a big group I ride with , That could be an issue , I use Zwift and Rouvy atm.. Will give some feedback ...
Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for your support 🙏🏼
Is the Virtufit Etappe 2.0 also compatibel with MyWhoosh? Or is the Zycle Zdrive the cheapest option when wanting a quiet indoor bike (magnetic resistance and V-belt)?
Brilliant video
Hi, can i connect my speed sensor with this app? I just only have roller trainer
Not at this time. They are working on allowing speed sensors but not yet available.
Never even knew about mywoosh they need advertising in uci events mountain and road.
Swarm intelligence request: I have a kickr bike V2 and I look for a platform that automatically tilts the bike when it’s going up or downhill. Anyone knows if that is even possible or do you always have to use these buttons on the left hand STI? I will give this platform a go.
I am using Mac on daily use, but planning to have a small PC to use just for riding and sometimes when Windows is needed. What would you recommend and minimum to run whoosh, zwift, fullgaz?
These are the minimum requirements published on MyWhoosh. If your pc can run MyWhoosh, then it will run everything else without issues:
Processor: Intel i5 7th Gen, AMD Ryzen 5.
RAM: 8GB.
GPU: AMD Vega 64, Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti.
Disk Space: At least 10GB.
OS: Windows 10 or 11.
www.mywhoosh.com/docs/what-devices-are-compatible-with-mywhoosh/#2-toc-title
Thank you for the information ☕️
You bet 👍
I've been trying it for a week now. It looks fine on my PC. I liked the experience. Only one thing bothers me and it is the integration of the secondary power source, which is my pedals, that I find a little bit off. Depending on the cadence (the higher the cadence, the bigger the gap), the power-match function can fail to sync with up-to 20 Watts of difference (I am watching my head unit), which is too much. Aside of this I am fine with the app.
Might just be that one power source is miscalibrated?
I think it doesn't have power match. I think The secondary power source it's just for Race power validation.
ok im downloading it..I had no idea unto youtube recommended this video!
Enjoy 👍
Is it possible to connect simple non-smart trainer without power meter, f.e. Decathlon BC100?
Currently you need to have a power meter source to be able to use MyWhoosh. Looks like they are working on an option to connect a non-smart trainer by using a speed sensor. Not sure when that will be available.
Haven't used it, because there is no Apple tvOS version available. Using Zwift a lot in the winter months. Tried Rolla and Rouvy too. But both were too buggy for me.
UAE has big $$$$. Wouldn't it be more cost effective to buy Zwift?
Or maybe they want to use the LIV Golf model.
I don't see Saris H3 under recommended equipment. I will post the question to their website.
I would expect Europe to be added, after all it does host some major cycling events. At least that's what I've heard (snarky).
I’m happy with Zwift it suites me fine and ok has a little cost but its worth it thanks for this thought as where about it only today
I'll try it when they have it on an iOS platform. Sounds interesting though. I like new worlds. Zwift doesn't seem to roll them out fast enough. If they think (Zwift) that it will be too many, they can retire some routes. But I guess that's another discussion. Thanks for the insight.
Its already available on the app store on ios.
Good to know. Thank you! @@MrLPwithFun
Hey, does anyone know if mywhoosh is compatibl with the virtual shifting of the zwift hub one?
No it is not compatible
@@SmartBikeTrainers Thank you
Hopefully the latest Zwift hike...will move more folks over to MW. It's getting lonely here... especially with the pork chop around my neck.
is there any app left where I can upload a GPX file to create my route?
So. Your vid is the first I’ve heard of this app. And I’m a long time zwifter and YT content cycling guy. So they can’t be spending on advertising. Yet. Seemingly deep pockets. Interesting.
is possible to use this app with roller trainer? thx
If you have a power meter on your bike or your roller broadcast power, then yes, you can.
Thanks for this review. I love the idea of free, but on problem - I am 60 account creation would only accept 1970 very weird.
Another person pointed the 1970 issue out. They were able to sign up with a different year and then updated their profile with the correct year. Clearly a bug MyWhoosh need to address.
Just found this video and interesting. Until it comes to Apple TV it is a non starter for me and a lot of people I suspect. I have a YT channel and starting to show some Zwift stuff outside of my weightlifting and it would be nice to have an alternative to Zwift but pretty sad they did not have Apple TV at launch
I had used Zwift in the past, but a price hike has deterred me from going back. It's $30/month in Australia. I'll be going to MyWhoosh for sure. If the biggest complaint is limited social interaction, I'm in!
what are your computer specs that give you 30 fps?
Maybe I'm doing something wrong but how do I get the Kickr Climb to work with MyWhoosh? I tried a free ride yesterday after buying a used Climb. The Climb did not adjust to the gradient shown on screen. Do you know of a fix or setting for this?
you need a good pc, downloaded and it says i dont meet recomendations, yet i run zwift at 4k with the same spec pc !
Do they have an FTP test?
indievelo review perhaps?
Excellent app!
What would be the cheapest equipment to use with this app? In my country the prices are absurd, and most are not even available
I tried the app in April for the competition. There were several drawbacks that made it less enjoyable than other apps. First, the physics dynamics were bad. Speeds were unrealistic, the gradient change feeling was off, and the bunch dynamic was completely off. A virtual cycling platform should be able to mimick IRL cycling feelings. that's the first thing i ask. I feel it completely on Zwift, not at all on MyWhoosh.
Second drawback is the lack of stability of the app and data centers, which cause quite a lot of crashes during competition and in-game (at least on a computer). Normally, nothing too difficult to address when we can throw 1 million dollars in prize money 😅
I use it every now and again I think it’s good but I do keep going to Zwift ? Just wish it had longer rides and more group rides also I use ROUVY as well which I like got some killer routes from all over the world also I use wahoo the training aspect is good but it costs me a fortune or have to get rid of a couple lol
Is there a possibility to create your own route? Like MagicRoads?
No, they don’t offer the ability to create own routes at this time.
Can I ride the Zwift hub one on the mywhoosh platform? Or is that only possible with a wahoo
The Zwift HUB one with the cog can work with MyWhoosh if you only use it in Erg mode. However, if you ride in sim mode, you won’t have the ability to adjust gearing since virtual gearing isn’t supported in MyWhoosh.
You can remove the Cog and install a cassette instead then use your shifters. The only aspect you lose is the electronic shifting.
The Zwift Hub itself works fine with MyWhoosh.
What CPU/GPU are you using that gives only 30 FPS?
GeForce RTX3060 and Intel Core i5