They're "introducing" challenges? WHAT A NOVEL IDEA! WOW! Nobody has ever thought of that before!! Give us more traits, gameplay and stuff to do, not rehash stuff players have already come up with...
I feel the same. All these distractions just take away from us getting gameplay. I don’t want ideas for gameplay I want new gameplay. I was told by one of the game changers that’s it’s because they are working at home, the pandemic. Blah blah blah. That’s just an excuse. Working at home doesn’t mean you put out barely anything
@@D3Hearts And other gaming companies have been bringing out amazing game updates despite working from home. I think even Rockstar has brought out some good updates, and Rockstar has a worse reputation than EA in the gaming community lol.
@@spicynoodlesoup6183 exactly. They just aren’t getting the right people to work on it. Working at home should have no bearing. They are a billion dollar company.
Lil simsie made a good point I didn’t think of and I agree with; a lot of people who play the sims may not have ever even heard of “rags to riches” or other challenges . Like I wasn’t big into the sims community until recently and I have been kept so busy from all the new ideas . If I never looked into it scenarios would have been awesome for someone like me who was getting bored . Edit: that’s how I found you actually . So many ideas 😂♥️
That is a good point(even if it is a game changer[sorry I dont like the broken game changer program but I'll at least give her credit because it is valid]) but ea should also still give credit where it's due instead of presenting it as their own work and we know they atent going to do that...sorry ....also I want to note I was a big lilsimsie fan and I do like her I just think ea has made her their poster child and it's made me resentful ....working on that but that osnt her fault so...
@@ebonynight I hear that term all the time lately and have no idea where it came from, when it happened or what is it. What for the love of llama is a freaking EA game changer? Is it a self created (social media) title, like when when people are "influencers."
Yup. I have played rags to riches since sims 1 because it was just a story idea that sounded fun and challenging to me. I didn't call it that, but I have done it ever since. I pretty much start every Sim that way. But I have never actually done a challenge, not because I didn't know of them, but because frankly keeping a list of the rules, using a notebook to track things, let alone paying attention to points all sounded like an insane chore to me. This update will create a way to do some of these "challenges" without all that annoying work that went with doing them. So I for one, look forward to trying them out, and seeing how they evolve and get modded etc.
@@ChaoticMoira an ea game changer is a program that supposedly was made so that the community could see content early and so that they could be heard ,those who are selected get content early and can share it with others on social media when ea tells them they can ,that was meant for these game changers to give their honest opinions about the packs they've received...and criticism back to ea on the things that should be improved .....BUT at this point most of them (not all) are too afraid to lose the privileges that come with being selected by ea and the perks that come with it that it's basically become free advertising for each new pack ....there are some who are honest and dont worry about it (an example is plumbella) other perks they receive are a camp they were going to that was exclusive to them and free sims merchandise items for them to promote the game ....its frustrating because they were meant to help communicate the serious issues and problems of each pack and they've only really helped with skin tones....like I said most of them when they get the early access and the packs for free ultimately just praise everything about them so yea...
I guess at least it’s free but I kinda already do this on my own. It seems like it’s ripping off some creators as well who originated challenges like rags to riches.
I think we need to remember just because we do all these challenges doesn't mean everyone even knows about them. I know not everyone does because I see people asking how to play the game on the Sims steam forums all the time. My husband and Son play the Sims 4 and if it weren't for me they wouldn't even know about them either. EA looked at how SOME of the community is already playing and decided to make it official. I am excited to see what ones they come up with for us in the future.
Yeah My daughter in law for one. She just plays casually (unlike me that is addicted and now is into making cc) and she is going to love them. I am sure she doesn't even know because she doesn't watch videos on the Sims. lol. When I tell her will probably be when she finds out lol
yes, but simmers created these challenges on their own. are they going to be getting credit for these ideas that EA is stealing and selling back to us, essentially? Yes, it's a free update but it wasn't even their idea.
@@notyourmanicpixie The Making Money scenario seems to be to generic to be the rag to riches that people play. It's just get 1 million simoleons. Sure its the same vibe but by no means is it a copy and paste of the rags to riches challenge. Plus there's so many versions out there from people I wasn't able to even find who originally made it to begin with and they don't even give this original creator credit either.
@@D3Hearts They could but they aren't so idk what to tell you. It seems Sims 4 has years to go so we will be seeing more paid packs besides kits. Free base game updates are a good thing to me!
Not going to lie - I am highly disappointed. When I saw “Scenarios” - I immediately thought “Consequences!!!”... then they started explaining and I was UPSET. They better give us some DEEEEP DIMENSION for this second update. I am already missing out on my yearly birthday (November) expansion - GIVE ME SOMETHING EA! 😫
I'm starting to think there should be some kind of focus group of only dedicated simmers who have the power to approve and improve or reject features. They consulted EA Network creators on the skin tones and hire some to build houses and allow their CC to be added into the game, so that'd be the next step up. EA and Maxis just seem still so out of touch somehow when they could make so much more money by giving us what we ask for. I guess Cottage Living didn't get that message across. I'm sure if there was more input from a group of us, maybe scenarios would've still happened, but in a much better way that integrates with existing gameplay and has new reward objects instead of just satisfaction points!
They’ve got DOZENS of people who play this game hours a week to ask questions and they don’t, it would be awesome if they acted like the community’s input actually mattered
I’m wondering if they will pair the new express delivery or whatever they call it with scenarios? They mentioned scenarios with a time limit so maybe in the future you can unlock new content by completing them , rather than just getting satisfaction points
Lilsimsie said that she banned people who were in that chat that attend her streams because she saw they were being toxic and racist. I’m so embarrassed to be in a community like that...
I am really excited for it! It's awesome to be held accountable. I have a problem with cheating lol edit: I have a problems with cheating here and there on challenges lol
It might actually bring new players into the more well known fan made challenges. A lot of sim players I know have no clue what the 100 baby, etc are. And the few that did did not like keeping track of scoring themselves. Official EA challenges could help newer summers see what fun it is & google for more when done. Sad about no credit, especially since they’re been hiring fan Moders recently. But it’s also legal since fan challenges are like fan art/fiction. A gray area legally speaking.
The only reason we need SCenarios is if they are going to integrate some more profound rewards for these scenarios like Bonus traits for both success and failures as well as unique assets. What always irks me is them taking community-created genius and not crediting the creators - If the rags to riches or 7 toddlers don't have a byline that is utterly offensive.
I think it would be very hard to find out who specifically made the '100 baby challenge' or the 'rags to riches' challenge. I can't even remember if I made the shell challenge, or not. A lot has happened since then.
I think the aspiration points as a reward is stupid. The idea of new traits would be cool. I def agree the reward should be something cool. Trying to credit storylines that people have been playing since the beginning is ridiculous imo. I played rags to riches style, long before anyone typed up a "challenge" and gave it a name (before I ever saw any social media on it, I played Disney Princesses, evil twins, an apocalyptic world, trapped in a cult, and many others). The issues are numerous, consider how many variants of challenges are out there, and was it the person who first mentioned doing it in their own game just in the midst of a thread (if that can even be found), or the person who decided to take that person's game play/story idea and post it "as a challenge"? I mean it is just a mess in many cases. Many challenges that grow big, came from someone else's idea, that someone else tweaked, and they didn't always credit anyone either.
@@Toztabud James Turner is the king of Rags to Riches, and Kelly Im...she used to work for buzzfeed created 100 baby challenge. Most of these answers are buried deep in the forums and someone somewhere has these answers - even if they do not credit directly just saying " inspired by the community challenge- Rags to Riches" let's people go on their own trip down the rabbit hole and may lead to them discovering more challenges or even creating their own.
@@ChaoticMoira Ok so what about the idea of them admitting they are " Inspired by our community of players" and promote the Challenge Forum thread so people can dive deep into the ideas shared there and build on some of the healthier aspects of the community.
@@elainal6847 I don't think there is any harm in saying "this feature is inspired by Sims players," but I also don't see that as being hidden. I mean I guess I just don't get why anyone would feel bothered by them not saying it either. But honestly if they did say something like, Rags to Riches (brought to you by James Turner) I would roll my eyes at that since I was doing it long before I knew who he was, and in fact when he started doing his extreme version I remember laughing and thinking "finally someone is doing it the right way," because, again, I was ALREADY doing it that way for ages (in fact my rules are even harder).. And, I think he even mentions it wasn't his idea.. So most credits would just have no basis. They are mostly just storylines that tons of people have done for ages. No shade on James btw, I totally enjoy his videos, I just am saying it isn't like he created the concept so it would be ridiculous to feel obligated to credit him. And only using him as an example because you mentioned him. I will acknowledge there are "a few" very unique challenges that are new and can easily be traced, like the Very Berry one. But even then, EA would have to ask those people if it was their idea, or did one of their subs toss it out there to them, in order to give proper credit. Because people with followers take ideas from their audience all the time, and while they often say things like, "someone mentioned this to me," or the better ones, "thanks to so-and-so for this idea," despite that, many people just remember who THEY got it from. So then the credit often goes to the social media person who voiced it.
I feel that if they allowed us to create the challenges that would open up some new gameplay. They always have a decent idea, but limit it for no reason. Like the styles in CAS. I love that they have that feature, but why can't we create our own? Why can't we share them? So close, yet so far I guess.
It looks like EA is taking the older, more seasoned players for granted while implementing things that only make sense for newer players and/or those who are not active in the community. I don't think the feature is bad, it's certainly gonna help people who lose track of their progress etc, but why did they choose THIS as a PRIORITY, y'know? Some simmers are saying "If you don't like it, don't use it", but the team spent TIME and EFFORT on this while there are so many other, more relevant, things that need to be included in the game, there's no way we won't get upset with that.
I don't think anyone said this- Will we be able to turn off scenarios if we don't wanna play with them in every save? Cause on the livestream the "new game" and "play with existing save" buttons were replaced by new scenarios, so does that mean that we will HAVE TO play with this
Honestly when I first heard that there was going to be a big update I thought it would be something more exciting! Like more stuff to do if you don't own any packs... but something I would really like if they added to the game would be hotels cuz now we only have the rental lots. Anyways any thoughts on the hotel idea?
I didn't watch the live stream so this was the first I heard about this. The scenarios do sound kind of like community challenges and I do hope that gets recognized and credited in some way. If we can customize our own "scenarios" and share them in the gallery THAT would be cool. Them partnering with Kelsey Dangerous on the 100 Bae Challenge and showing it on the front page of the gallery makes so much sense with this scenarios thing coming up.
Yeah I agree with what you say here. The scenarios isn’t the gameplay many of us are looking for. They need to look back at sims 2 and 3, it’s like they forgot those games existed and it’s so perplexing sometimes 😭😵💫
EXACTLY: CONSEQUENCES! THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REPERCUSSIONS IN THE GAME AND IT'S KILLING ME! EVERYTHING IS ALWAYS TOO HUNKY DORY! Sorry about yelling lol.
I didn't expect anything but was still disappointed. They really don't understand what the community wants, either that or they're just ignorant as f***. I'm glad some people seem to enjoy this upcoming feature but I feel like everyone else was left behind. I'm sick and tired of EA's bullshit, to be honest.
I don't know, I don't think "the community" wants anything as a whole. There are different playstyles, ideas and wants/needs. I believe the people who play the sims are as diverse as people who listen to music. You can't put all of them in one group. EA can't please everyone at once and I feel like they have really been trying to implement more things that have been wanted "by the community" in the last one or two years.
Hmm...we all remember how Kelsey (the sims RUclipsr) was on the main menu of The Sims 4, she was on there for her 100 baby challenge and her 100 bae challenge...maybe they were trying to tease something? Idk... They had me in 1/2 way ngl, I thought it was gonna be super cool, but then they introduced it and I knew it wasn’t all that...all scenarios does is keep track of your progress in already made challenges. Next thing you know, they’ll add Not So Berry as a ‘scenario’...Simsie’ll come after them 😂
I'm intrigued by the idea of scenarios being added in. Not everyone is up on all the Sims 4 fan created challenges that have been made, myself included. Outside the ones I've seen here on RUclips. I recently made an attempt at starting An Extreme "Vampire" Legacy save game. 🧛🏻♀️🧛🏻♂️ But I am finding it hard to keep the rules of the challenge straight in my head, I forget the rules the instant they're no longer directly in front of me. 😅 Having a way to keep track of the challenge/scenario requirements(rules) in game is a lovely idea I didn't know I wanted or needed in game. 😎
Hi Taylor I recently came up with an idea for a Sims 4 challenge and I really enjoyed playing with my friend and I would really like other people to enjoy it too! I know you have your Sims 4 info website and it ok if you can’t but it would be cool if me and my friend’s challenge could be but out there and it would really help get the challenge out there! Basically the challenge is a lot of chaos, laughter and sneaking around iconic married Sims houses. Please forgive me if the challenge has already been made I just have not seen it before! 😊
Ooooo don’t know how I’m feeling on this one because I like to control and make up my own story so wonder if this would change that 🤔 would be good to have an option to turn it of aswell because some people might not like it but overall I’m pretty excited 💕
I agree I think they were trying to give us more gameplay ideas, but missed the mark. Because (based on what we know so far) these are just things we can already do, just with in-game reminders and structure. But we don’t need those to play these storylines. What I would like to have seen instead is more in-game lore/updates to the existing townies to make the world seem more real. And/or more built in storylines to play like with Strangerville or the Sims 2 stories. Just ways to spice up your gameplay and give a starting point for making up your own stories.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe this IS the 2nd update for season of selves. Lilsimsie said that the 1st update was the swatch one we got a couple of weeks ago which “let us customize our game with color” and the scenarios one is “unlocking a new way to play.” So I think this is it for the year… just this update and 2 other kits and that’s it… what a shame honestly. There are so many other base game updates that have more priority in my mind.
What I want in this game is consequences, curfew hours for children and teens , I see children all day walking around the neighborhood when they should be in school,need more depth to our sims . I can’t even put music in my sims house cause all they want to do is dance . There’s so much more stuff needed in the sims 4 , I agree these are just rags to riches challenges etc….it’s like they hear the sims community but don’t actually listen to what we all want.how about a color wheel like pets have . We can’t have mods on console but that would make our game a lil better .to be able to create our own style of clothing etc…great video as always .
Personally I am looking forward to the Scenarios update. I have tried to play the challenges before but I would lose track or forget rules so I would just give up on it after a while. Having an official in game system that holds your game accountable for you is great in my opinion. I wouldn’t use this in my “main game” though. I’d maybe set up a new file to play specifically for the scenarios. As I do agree with your comments about having “challenging” game play with consequences for my main game is what I want the most from the sims team, but that’s not to say I can’t enjoy the update in the mean time. I understand why a lot of simmers who do the challenges already find this a very underwhelming update, but for new players, or players who don’t know about the challenges or players like myself who need a little help with being accountable, I see this as a positive update.
I agree with you on the challenge thing, they missed what we meant. I don't want scenarios I want sims to have proper interactions and more consequences with game play like you said too. I never really do challenges I tend to build more but if I wanted to do challenges I'd check out your vids for ideas cos your ideas are so fun or check forums ect.. EA seem to say they listen but they sometimes miss what we mean for sure. Also bit disappointed about no EP or even a GP this time too :0(
Yeah...I could care less about this update. I haven't played in months at this point and now that I know we aren't getting a new expansion for the end of this year, I'm so disappointed. 😕
To be honest I think it will be interesting. The first sims game I ever played was the sims 2 pet stories and still play sims medieval from time to time so I feel that will be the closest we will get to having something like that again. I also play the same 3 challenges each time so it will be interesting to see what unique ones they will come up with ☺️
I'm also more excited about the idea of what the modders will be able to do with the scenarios but....once again, because EA apparently has not gotten the memo yet....it is not the job of modders to fix or improve the game where EA fails to do so themselves. And like you said, I don't think they understand how people play the game. I understand there are console players, and newer players, and players not as into the online sims community but also, how do you completely turn a blind eye to your players who have been around for literally two decades and how do you not understand those players yet?
Hi! I am italian and I can tell you that part of the italian community watching the EA livestream screamed of joy at the word "scenarios" because it is a false friend with the italian word "scenario" that is how we name worlds in the sims 4 (Willow Creek, Oasis Springs...) 🤣🤣🤣 I had a really fun time oh my gosh 🤣🤣🤣 Btw I really don't need this challenges, and plus they are related only to new family units. I think we need new ones but they copied the existing ones. I'm instead waiting for this new kind of Delivery Sistem in the game, as a new gallery with new downloadable free objects, even in limited edition. I think it would be interesting.
So we constantly complain about nothing new unless its paid dlc ect. We constantly complain about the blank slates sims 4 sims are ect. But yet any time they give us something everyone screams about it. Nothing they give us is good enough everything they give us is stupid. People in 2021 are exhausting they want everything but accept nothing.
I also didn't like that they just change the name of the challenge and don't even talked about who created them, that's it's something that the players I already do etc. I really like these challenges be part of the game, it's interesting but I guess we need to see how exactly these scenarios will work
idk i want to try them before i judge them but, yeah, there’s already an aspiration for getting rich and finding romance, its so redundant, what were they thinking
the sims team is so lazy. we all know that they stole these challenges from simmers. also, they know modders will tweak the challenge system. the sims team has very little imagination. modders have been saving the game for years. XMiramira and her Melanin packs. for starters.
The "fill your space with colour" was the update with the swatches and on the Livestream they highlighted that this one is "unlock new ways to play" As for the update itself it just seems bland to me, like it's nothing new or exciting, I could already do that stuff But I agree with the point lilsimsie made that there are a lot of people who play the Sims and aren't as involved with the community and may not know this challenges. As far as crediting goes I suppose it's hard to find the inventor of these since they have been a thing for so long that even simmers posting rags to riches now don't credit anyone. It would have been nice though if they said something like this is popular within the community and this will make it easier and more official for you and showcasted more a challenge that they have created. In the Livestream they just acted like it's their brand new idea and I guessed that that bothered me.
Im hoping they are holding out on us with a bug surprise update that will address cars and or babies. To be honest, I don’t care about either but I know it would make a lot of sims happy. Personally, on my wish list, I’d love to have multiple residences or business and a residence on a single lot and working elevators…it’s so sad that something as simple as elevators are not in the game. (Bug was a typo but i thought it would be ironically funny if I left it alone.)
I understand your frustration but I think it might be better to wait to do a longer video when the update actually comes through and you can see it for yourself. Just a friendly suggestion for the future.
I think if they had gone with what you said about having the community make the challenges; it would be a lot more fun, and I would be willing to do it myself. I know when I play Assassin's Creed Odyssey, they have gamers make up challenging gameplay that a player can choose to click to play them. It's a lot of fun, and it's amazing what the community in AC comes up with as far as gameplay. I really wish they would have done it that way.
lilsimsie made a point that they might be doing this for new players that aren't familiar with how to play the game. It makes sense but I would've liked an update to likes and dislikes, an overhaul of whims, and something like wants and fears, or an attraction system. Sims 4 seems too childish to me and even the aspirations are basically "hold you hand" tutorials.
I'm kinda surprised these gurus didn't make mention of the CAS Sim preference changes referenced in the code that are coming soon (source is TURBOdriver) It makes me wonder if that's the "add dimension to your sims lives" part as we've already seen the "customize your space with color" (which was more base game colors to all objects, which was nice) I like to think that if you don't have a story idea, this is their way of introducing it to simmers that don't google stuff like Rags to riches/off the grid/homeless, they just need to add credit where its due (If they do add more challenges, i hope they add more scenarios like the scrapped power outage from sims 2, but i'm not holding my breath) Someone actually said that the "finding love after breakup" was shallow as your sim can get in a romantic relationship then married in one sim day, but until i see how this sceanrio works, this can't be ruled as such yet To wrap this up, was it me, or did those 3 gurus really not know what was going on with this new feature in the latter half? like they were completely unaware or unsure of how it would work? (I enjoyed the stream, but the latter half left more questions) and i don't know who wasn't moderating the chat but that was terrible... Sorry if this was too wordy...
Scenarios are pretty good as a concept, but I do see very good potential if they allowed us to make our own scenarios with a Scenario Creator/Maker. Having this allows us to add in our own goals and objectives in scenarios and add it as another way for people to play The Sims 4 by sharing sceanrios that you made with other people. Add our own rewards for completing certain objective and goals in a scenario. It would act very similar to the Scenario Creator/Maker of the game Plague Inc. and also its successor - Rebel Inc. We can make our own challenges and give it to people to try. It would be really awesome if we can have multiple scenarios in one save. We need The Sims Gurus to turn this concept into a reality. If you introduced a new element to The Sims 4, we will ask you to make this into a fully creative feature. One example that I see would work with a Scenario Creator would be the Not So Berry Challenge. I know it is kinda of a farfetch and complex idea to make it into a scenario, but you can add rewards for completing each rule of that generation as the scenario, and have the generations be the multiple scenarios. Another example that would work as an idea with the Scenario Creator is having something to do when your sim or sims is a teenager. Give them the best teenhood by making multiple friends, or have the Parenthood Game Pack integrated with with completing one of the goals rewards you with the Private Journal. Make one of your sims a bad sim to the teen sim by having one of the goals be to snoop at another sim's journal. Much like with lots and sims, if you have a scenario that has rewards that requires a specific pack, you will need that specific pack or packs to download the scenario. As I said, Scenarios has potential, and the best way to do that is to give us a Scenario Creator/Maker and allow us to make and share it so other people can play them. You can upload and share rooms, lots and sims... I don't see why you can't do thast with scenarios. It might seem slow introducing new scenarios, but if we get more people on board with a Scenario Creator/Maker idea, it might be enough to get The Sims Gurus to actually make this feature perfect for absolutely everyone. Even without packs, scenarios is enough to make the gameplay experience worth wild. So scenarios is a good move, but it needs to be better by letting us make the scenarios.
I’ve been playing The Sims since I was 8 years old. I’m 29 right now and I only discovered the online community and the RUclipsrs etc last year. I really think most players play offline and to them scenarios are a cool new thing. I feel like EA listens to the online community but also tries to balance that with all the people who play offline. And I think they achieved just that with this update :-) Also, when I was a kid I got one expansion pack a year at Christmas and that was it. That’s what I’m used to and the Sims is the only game I know with soooo many new content all the time. Ever since I discovered the online community I’m surprised by how many new content people expect. I didn’t buy kits because I’m still on a high from Dream Home Decorator! I love it that they keep updating the game (with free and paid content) and I think EA sometimes doesn’t get enough credit for that in the online community.
First why this is basically a copy of challenges creators ready-made and one more people who created Skyrim have mods for the console people when it's time for EA to take a page out of Skyrim book
I do not care for challenges. If challenges will be introduced into gameplay i will focus more on Parallel Lives. I played Sims for its relaxing free spirit gameplay….not interested in challenges. When do people give credit? It’s nothing new in my world as a so called black American.
On one hand I agree with the lilsimsie perspective on what the reasoning might be behind Scenarios, but on the other it kind of feels like they're trying to take some power back after realizing how much smarter and more creative Simmers are at coming up with incredible game play that comes with both challenging and rewarding storylines - which end up differently every time! If anything, the community is just pushing them to do and be better and maybe this is a catalyst for an even bigger moment of outside-of-the-box thinking and game dev!
I kind of like the idea of challenges, especially if they work in the way that you have to reach goal 1 to unlock something and goal 2 to unlock something else. Like in rags to riches, it wouldnt let you cheat by showering in community lot, visiting other worlds without paying or getting your needs up in someone's home. And as you gain more money, you gain more freedom. I also like the customisation idea. So you could tweak it if you want to add or remove something. Or create your own or use someone else's. It would be so much easier to do legacy challenge and add some restrictions and objectives to each generation. And if you failed, you would have to start again or at some earlier point or had some penalty. I think this also would compensate lack of aspirations. So you could make your own ones that suit your game play
I have a mod that adds Rags to Riches as an aspiration, with a link to the challenge. And if we were getting them as Aspirations, the base game needs more Aspirations. I'm also not thrilled about them adding challenges that were made by the community without attribution or compensation because they've already shaved off the serial numbers when presenting them as names we almost knew, enough that those of us who follow challenges know what they were talking about. I only caught the part of the livestream where they announced this (don't know how I got lucky there) and my hope didn't turn to hype because anyone can have this in the game without EA adding it. I want EA to add things we don't have access to, like bug fixes (the t-posing doctor is getting to me, plus all the things they broke in adding Cottage Living, like building rockets), more aspirations, more occults, refreshing old packs so they work better with new packs, etc. I can do what they offered in my own time, and that's why it disappoints me.
Totally unrelated... I joined the secret society through the university, is there any way to cheat the aspirations to move up in a secret society?? Would love to know 💜💯😊
I don't pay any attention to the challenges that players create. Im in general not interested in "challenges" which in my mind are slightly grotesque like the 100 baby one. However I believe in credit where credit is due. EA needs to credit the original creators by name (whatever name they go by in community) and give them some kind of cool exclusive gift to them. They already use us for ideas they should at least reward folks who they are blatantly ripping off.
I honestly don't care what EA does anymore.. They are only trying to appeal to the younger demographic. Right now I'm planning on killing my current sims because they pissed me off and they keep glitching and every time I tell then to do something it takes them like three minutes to register.. Their death will be swift and glorious.. With all these bugs and glitches we have in game(that will never be fixed) I think it's fair to eliminate the unresponsive sims as retribution and quality entertainment 👏👏
Honestly I just started hearing about the whole scenarios thing. And it's not worth jumping up and down about. I would be more excited if the devs took priority in cleaning up the bugs in the game. I hope it doesn't reach the point of simmers rage quitting Sims, because the game feels like it's deteriorating due to the growing amount of bugs and glitches.
In the beginning, EA listened to the fans and thus made the content because the game wasn't making enough money. Now... forward 6 years when the covid pandemic broke out, EA made a six ton of money, thus don't need to listen to anyone, not even themselves when, for a good example, they showed a loft window frame that didn't come with the pack.
I just want werewolves to be added to the game. I have thought about getting sims 4 but i'm not going to get it unless they add werewolves and yes i know they have mods for that but the mods just look so weird to me. I was hoping they would add something like sims 3. What i don't get is how is it so hard to add werewolves when they did it in sims 3. It seems like people are talking more about sims 5 and at this point i'm kind of worried that there not even going to put zombies, werewolves or fairies. I don't really care about zombies but werewolves and fairies were fun for me.
It would be nice if they gave EA game changers some freedom to make their own scenarios, like lilsimsie making an in-game version of Not So Berry. Otherwise I hope modders will go ham and make us some fun versions of their challenges cause what they gave us so far is really... eh.
While I wish this was a partnership or collab with the individuals who created or are best known for the challenges, I really like the built in structure of the challenge being inherent in the game. I always get bored trying to track particularly complex challenges on my own, and find it hard to remember which generations have which careers and etc. Ever since at least Island Living, I've been keeping my expectations at rock bottom so I wouldn't be disappointed and this is one of the base game updates which actually sounds like it would be fun and compliment how I play the game. I actually really enjoy the idea from EA, but I'm gonna need a lot more scenarios then just rags to riches and 7 toddler challenge, and whatever the other two are meant to be. Even if it gets a lukewarm reception from most people I hope they actually stick with it instead of abandoning it like whims.
Maybe it's just me but I would like to see the developers make a patch or something to where I could buy the lot next door to mine because it is empty and I could use the extra room and I have almost $9, 999 simoleons without cheating so I would really like to be able to use them besides on stuff that I do not need I am almost at the point where I have to buy things and delete them just to use up some simoleons
I am wanting to get set up to play S4 BUT I dont have the right computer for it... could someoneplease recommend a good computer or what i need as far as upgrading to use what already have! THANK YOU SIMMERS
Things TS4 could do instead of leech from players: Give us Apartments to make from the ground up like in TS2 FREE THE BABIES! Fix the times it takes to get things done. Give us the option for rotational play like in TS2. Just start making more worlds with more lots. Go through the basegames of TS, TS2, and TS3 and give us what they haven't given us yet Bring back the Social Bunny Give us a color wheel for clothing and hair Make pets clickable Give us cheats w/o using MCC or UI Seriously! I can't even believe I have to DL mod to raise my sims' hunger level. All these cheats were in the original games. Give Teens, Kids, and Old People fun things to do. Look at TS3 Generations and go from there. So many things they could actually do but whatever. I don't even have TS4 anymore. I'm just here for the tea. *Loads TS2*
For every idea you're going to have people that think it's exciting, and people that do not. I think what we're not addressing (which is sort of an elephant in the room) is that, you don't get a pat on the back for shouting from the roof tops that you made something more diverse. Just do it. Also, as a Hispanic I do feel underrepresented in CAS. I think the things that are given are almost costume-ish like the sugar skull makeup and the Mariachi outfit. I agree that taking things from paid packs and just slapping them into base game so that there's more representation is not the way to go. It's a start, and it's a step. But do better EA. There are so many people out there that would love to collaborate with you to provide new things that are NEW to all.
I actually like the scenarios. I’ve done challenges before, like empty shell challenges and rags to riches but the scenarios give a fresh perspective on every play through, especially for new players or players who go on sim hiatus' and get bored of the same way of playing or simmers who aren’t RUclipsrs. I haven’t done the toddler/baby challenges before because I rarely play with toddlers as it is, it’s difficult lol, but I did do the toddler scenario and actually enjoyed it. I’m looking forward to see what else they bring. Yes, these challenges have been a thing but now there’s an UI for it and rules and direction for players. I don’t see what the problem is lol. If people don’t like it then don’t choose the “Play scenarios” option 😅 I will say, I really hope they start working on bugs now. 😬🤦🏽♀️
Hey cuz! I think the problem with EA introducing consequences is that Sims 4 is marketed as a sandbox game. It's not Sims Living Large. When players say they want "story progression", it means different things to different players. I have a carer who insists that "story progression" means a narrative-driven story, not a sandbox where you create your own story. He says we literally have whims for that. Granted, he does not like EA and is worried about micro-transactions coming into the game and bugs, but the point is that everyone has their own interpretation of what the Sims should be. Personally, I just play the game for creating my own fantasy families and I don't want to worry about my fledgling vampire sims dying when I move them to Sulani, etc. If they do implement more "realism" into the game, I want it to be toggled, and I think that's the problem. It would be too much to implement features that everyone wants, so they make executive decisions that not everyone likes. Heck, I'm still waiting for werewolf sims. They should have been introduced by now. Last time I checked, I couldn't fix my sim's shower-tub combo. There's just so much for them to do that it would take a miracle for them to do everything.
I'm also disappointed... At this point the only ting I want from the Sims team, is having actual simmers employed to work on the game... It's obvious they don't play the game or enjoy/respect it. When they want us to go in depth about "what we mean by more challenging game play".... But then disregard our input and give us face value challenges tat already exist... 😒 Boo. Just over it.
I have mixed feelings about the scenarios. As a new player I'm excited to see what happens with the update and how the scenarios work. But I can totally appreciate how everyone who has been playing for years feels about this update too.
I think it's important to realize that not everyone knows about the challenges. LilSimsie made a really good video discussing it. Some people have never played the sims games before and not everyone is very involved in the community. I can speak for myself, I didn't even realize the challenges were a thing until a couple of years ago. I don't really think it's that big of a deal, I think it was overhyped yes but it's not a negative thing.
They're "introducing" challenges? WHAT A NOVEL IDEA! WOW! Nobody has ever thought of that before!! Give us more traits, gameplay and stuff to do, not rehash stuff players have already come up with...
I feel the same. All these distractions just take away from us getting gameplay. I don’t want ideas for gameplay I want new gameplay. I was told by one of the game changers that’s it’s because they are working at home, the pandemic. Blah blah blah. That’s just an excuse. Working at home doesn’t mean you put out barely anything
@@D3Hearts And other gaming companies have been bringing out amazing game updates despite working from home. I think even Rockstar has brought out some good updates, and Rockstar has a worse reputation than EA in the gaming community lol.
@@spicynoodlesoup6183 exactly. They just aren’t getting the right people to work on it. Working at home should have no bearing. They are a billion dollar company.
I agree! Need more traits and non-tutorial aspirations!
Lil simsie made a good point I didn’t think of and I agree with; a lot of people who play the sims may not have ever even heard of “rags to riches” or other challenges . Like I wasn’t big into the sims community until recently and I have been kept so busy from all the new ideas . If I never looked into it scenarios would have been awesome for someone like me who was getting bored .
Edit: that’s how I found you actually . So many ideas 😂♥️
That is a good point(even if it is a game changer[sorry I dont like the broken game changer program but I'll at least give her credit because it is valid]) but ea should also still give credit where it's due instead of presenting it as their own work and we know they atent going to do that...sorry ....also I want to note I was a big lilsimsie fan and I do like her I just think ea has made her their poster child and it's made me resentful ....working on that but that osnt her fault so...
@@ebonynight I do agree that they absolutely 100% should give credit !
@@ebonynight I hear that term all the time lately and have no idea where it came from, when it happened or what is it. What for the love of llama is a freaking EA game changer? Is it a self created (social media) title, like when when people are "influencers."
Yup. I have played rags to riches since sims 1 because it was just a story idea that sounded fun and challenging to me. I didn't call it that, but I have done it ever since. I pretty much start every Sim that way. But I have never actually done a challenge, not because I didn't know of them, but because frankly keeping a list of the rules, using a notebook to track things, let alone paying attention to points all sounded like an insane chore to me.
This update will create a way to do some of these "challenges" without all that annoying work that went with doing them. So I for one, look forward to trying them out, and seeing how they evolve and get modded etc.
@@ChaoticMoira an ea game changer is a program that supposedly was made so that the community could see content early and so that they could be heard ,those who are selected get content early and can share it with others on social media when ea tells them they can ,that was meant for these game changers to give their honest opinions about the packs they've received...and criticism back to ea on the things that should be improved .....BUT at this point most of them (not all) are too afraid to lose the privileges that come with being selected by ea and the perks that come with it that it's basically become free advertising for each new pack ....there are some who are honest and dont worry about it (an example is plumbella) other perks they receive are a camp they were going to that was exclusive to them and free sims merchandise items for them to promote the game ....its frustrating because they were meant to help communicate the serious issues and problems of each pack and they've only really helped with skin tones....like I said most of them when they get the early access and the packs for free ultimately just praise everything about them so yea...
I guess at least it’s free but I kinda already do this on my own. It seems like it’s ripping off some creators as well who originated challenges like rags to riches.
Plagiarism 🤣
I think we need to remember just because we do all these challenges doesn't mean everyone even knows about them. I know not everyone does because I see people asking how to play the game on the Sims steam forums all the time. My husband and Son play the Sims 4 and if it weren't for me they wouldn't even know about them either. EA looked at how SOME of the community is already playing and decided to make it official. I am excited to see what ones they come up with for us in the future.
Yeah My daughter in law for one. She just plays casually (unlike me that is addicted and now is into making cc) and she is going to love them. I am sure she doesn't even know because she doesn't watch videos on the Sims. lol. When I tell her will probably be when she finds out lol
yes, but simmers created these challenges on their own. are they going to be getting credit for these ideas that EA is stealing and selling back to us, essentially? Yes, it's a free update but it wasn't even their idea.
@@notyourmanicpixie The Making Money scenario seems to be to generic to be the rag to riches that people play. It's just get 1 million simoleons. Sure its the same vibe but by no means is it a copy and paste of the rags to riches challenge. Plus there's so many versions out there from people I wasn't able to even find who originally made it to begin with and they don't even give this original creator credit either.
They could still put out content. Don’t just tell people “heres kits and challenges until next year” “ keep yourself busy with that”.
@@D3Hearts They could but they aren't so idk what to tell you. It seems Sims 4 has years to go so we will be seeing more paid packs besides kits. Free base game updates are a good thing to me!
Not going to lie - I am highly disappointed. When I saw “Scenarios” - I immediately thought “Consequences!!!”... then they started explaining and I was UPSET. They better give us some DEEEEP DIMENSION for this second update. I am already missing out on my yearly birthday (November) expansion - GIVE ME SOMETHING EA! 😫
I'm starting to think there should be some kind of focus group of only dedicated simmers who have the power to approve and improve or reject features. They consulted EA Network creators on the skin tones and hire some to build houses and allow their CC to be added into the game, so that'd be the next step up. EA and Maxis just seem still so out of touch somehow when they could make so much more money by giving us what we ask for. I guess Cottage Living didn't get that message across. I'm sure if there was more input from a group of us, maybe scenarios would've still happened, but in a much better way that integrates with existing gameplay and has new reward objects instead of just satisfaction points!
They’ve got DOZENS of people who play this game hours a week to ask questions and they don’t, it would be awesome if they acted like the community’s input actually mattered
I’m wondering if they will pair the new express delivery or whatever they call it with scenarios? They mentioned scenarios with a time limit so maybe in the future you can unlock new content by completing them , rather than just getting satisfaction points
Lilsimsie said that she banned people who were in that chat that attend her streams because she saw they were being toxic and racist. I’m so embarrassed to be in a community like that...
If they just updated whims with every pack this wouldn’t be a thing. Unnecessary
If it's free I'll take it 😌
I am really excited for it! It's awesome to be held accountable. I have a problem with cheating lol edit: I have a problems with cheating here and there on challenges lol
It might actually bring new players into the more well known fan made challenges. A lot of sim players I know have no clue what the 100 baby, etc are. And the few that did did not like keeping track of scoring themselves. Official EA challenges could help newer summers see what fun it is & google for more when done.
Sad about no credit, especially since they’re been hiring fan Moders recently. But it’s also legal since fan challenges are like fan art/fiction. A gray area legally speaking.
I would like proper origin achievements for the sims, it gets a bit annoying having the same achievements pop ups every time you start a new save.
I second this.
Babies, cars, and consequences should have been in the game before this update was even a thought.
What about werewolves and fairies and surfing and all these things that might make the Sims cooler?
The only reason we need SCenarios is if they are going to integrate some more profound rewards for these scenarios like Bonus traits for both success and failures as well as unique assets. What always irks me is them taking community-created genius and not crediting the creators - If the rags to riches or 7 toddlers don't have a byline that is utterly offensive.
I think it would be very hard to find out who specifically made the '100 baby challenge' or the 'rags to riches' challenge. I can't even remember if I made the shell challenge, or not. A lot has happened since then.
I think the aspiration points as a reward is stupid. The idea of new traits would be cool. I def agree the reward should be something cool.
Trying to credit storylines that people have been playing since the beginning is ridiculous imo. I played rags to riches style, long before anyone typed up a "challenge" and gave it a name (before I ever saw any social media on it, I played Disney Princesses, evil twins, an apocalyptic world, trapped in a cult, and many others). The issues are numerous, consider how many variants of challenges are out there, and was it the person who first mentioned doing it in their own game just in the midst of a thread (if that can even be found), or the person who decided to take that person's game play/story idea and post it "as a challenge"? I mean it is just a mess in many cases. Many challenges that grow big, came from someone else's idea, that someone else tweaked, and they didn't always credit anyone either.
@@Toztabud James Turner is the king of Rags to Riches, and Kelly Im...she used to work for buzzfeed created 100 baby challenge. Most of these answers are buried deep in the forums and someone somewhere has these answers - even if they do not credit directly just saying " inspired by the community challenge- Rags to Riches" let's people go on their own trip down the rabbit hole and may lead to them discovering more challenges or even creating their own.
@@ChaoticMoira Ok so what about the idea of them admitting they are " Inspired by our community of players" and promote the Challenge Forum thread so people can dive deep into the ideas shared there and build on some of the healthier aspects of the community.
@@elainal6847 I don't think there is any harm in saying "this feature is inspired by Sims players," but I also don't see that as being hidden. I mean I guess I just don't get why anyone would feel bothered by them not saying it either.
But honestly if they did say something like, Rags to Riches (brought to you by James Turner) I would roll my eyes at that since I was doing it long before I knew who he was, and in fact when he started doing his extreme version I remember laughing and thinking "finally someone is doing it the right way," because, again, I was ALREADY doing it that way for ages (in fact my rules are even harder).. And, I think he even mentions it wasn't his idea.. So most credits would just have no basis. They are mostly just storylines that tons of people have done for ages. No shade on James btw, I totally enjoy his videos, I just am saying it isn't like he created the concept so it would be ridiculous to feel obligated to credit him. And only using him as an example because you mentioned him.
I will acknowledge there are "a few" very unique challenges that are new and can easily be traced, like the Very Berry one. But even then, EA would have to ask those people if it was their idea, or did one of their subs toss it out there to them, in order to give proper credit. Because people with followers take ideas from their audience all the time, and while they often say things like, "someone mentioned this to me," or the better ones, "thanks to so-and-so for this idea," despite that, many people just remember who THEY got it from. So then the credit often goes to the social media person who voiced it.
To me, it is the same as an aspiration, just in a different format. eh blah poop. :)
I feel that if they allowed us to create the challenges that would open up some new gameplay. They always have a decent idea, but limit it for no reason. Like the styles in CAS. I love that they have that feature, but why can't we create our own? Why can't we share them? So close, yet so far I guess.
Maybe this will be cool? I mean, maybe??? I want to have hope…..
I understand your views. I was so confused to see the simtubers I follow getting excited for this....its all very meh
It looks like EA is taking the older, more seasoned players for granted while implementing things that only make sense for newer players and/or those who are not active in the community. I don't think the feature is bad, it's certainly gonna help people who lose track of their progress etc, but why did they choose THIS as a PRIORITY, y'know? Some simmers are saying "If you don't like it, don't use it", but the team spent TIME and EFFORT on this while there are so many other, more relevant, things that need to be included in the game, there's no way we won't get upset with that.
They have been catering to a younger audience. Watered down content that has to be kid friendly means boring for the older players.
I like the Scenarios idea as it would help me regulate rules instead of trying (and failing) to do it myself.
Not sure how I'm feeling about it either. But I'll try it .. maybe
I don’t like the “limited timed” scenarios.
I don't think anyone said this- Will we be able to turn off scenarios if we don't wanna play with them in every save? Cause on the livestream the "new game" and "play with existing save" buttons were replaced by new scenarios, so does that mean that we will HAVE TO play with this
Honestly when I first heard that there was going to be a big update I thought it would be something more exciting! Like more stuff to do if you don't own any packs... but something I would really like if they added to the game would be hotels cuz now we only have the rental lots. Anyways any thoughts on the hotel idea?
Hotels would be great
I placed a hotel lot down and want to be able to use it so bad.
@@starloupe5490 I feel you!
I didn't watch the live stream so this was the first I heard about this. The scenarios do sound kind of like community challenges and I do hope that gets recognized and credited in some way. If we can customize our own "scenarios" and share them in the gallery THAT would be cool. Them partnering with Kelsey Dangerous on the 100 Bae Challenge and showing it on the front page of the gallery makes so much sense with this scenarios thing coming up.
Yeah I agree with what you say here. The scenarios isn’t the gameplay many of us are looking for. They need to look back at sims 2 and 3, it’s like they forgot those games existed and it’s so perplexing sometimes 😭😵💫
EXACTLY: CONSEQUENCES! THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REPERCUSSIONS IN THE GAME AND IT'S KILLING ME! EVERYTHING IS ALWAYS TOO HUNKY DORY! Sorry about yelling lol.
I didn't expect anything but was still disappointed. They really don't understand what the community wants, either that or they're just ignorant as f***. I'm glad some people seem to enjoy this upcoming feature but I feel like everyone else was left behind. I'm sick and tired of EA's bullshit, to be honest.
I don't know, I don't think "the community" wants anything as a whole. There are different playstyles, ideas and wants/needs. I believe the people who play the sims are as diverse as people who listen to music. You can't put all of them in one group. EA can't please everyone at once and I feel like they have really been trying to implement more things that have been wanted "by the community" in the last one or two years.
We dont need scenarios and thet things, we need the CC and Mods on consoles!!!!! And babies and cars
I'm just now starting this video and you're ready to have a DISCUSSION. Right off the bat I'm like oh girl.. Taylor is NOT happy right now...
Hmm...we all remember how Kelsey (the sims RUclipsr) was on the main menu of The Sims 4, she was on there for her 100 baby challenge and her 100 bae challenge...maybe they were trying to tease something? Idk...
They had me in 1/2 way ngl, I thought it was gonna be super cool, but then they introduced it and I knew it wasn’t all that...all scenarios does is keep track of your progress in already made challenges. Next thing you know, they’ll add Not So Berry as a ‘scenario’...Simsie’ll come after them 😂
I'm intrigued by the idea of scenarios being added in. Not everyone is up on all the Sims 4 fan created challenges that have been made, myself included. Outside the ones I've seen here on RUclips.
I recently made an attempt at starting An Extreme "Vampire" Legacy save game. 🧛🏻♀️🧛🏻♂️
But I am finding it hard to keep the rules of the challenge straight in my head, I forget the rules the instant they're no longer directly in front of me. 😅
Having a way to keep track of the challenge/scenario requirements(rules) in game is a lovely idea I didn't know I wanted or needed in game. 😎
Yes to the typ of challenges that would sound nicest are more in-game consequences, but I think the challenges sound like nice to play with.
But also the option of challenges on gallery sounds good.
EA would never make 100 baby challege..no sane person would fore anybody to give birth 100 times.Its cruel and unreal
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Hi Taylor I recently came up with an idea for a Sims 4 challenge and I really enjoyed playing with my friend and I would really like other people to enjoy it too! I know you have your Sims 4 info website and it ok if you can’t but it would be cool if me and my friend’s challenge could be but out there and it would really help get the challenge out there! Basically the challenge is a lot of chaos, laughter and sneaking around iconic married Sims houses. Please forgive me if the challenge has already been made I just have not seen it before! 😊
Ooooo don’t know how I’m feeling on this one because I like to control and make up my own story so wonder if this would change that 🤔 would be good to have an option to turn it of aswell because some people might not like it but overall I’m pretty excited 💕
If it’s free cool.... but I know the new scenario’s will not impact my game play at all, I won’t use them 💯🇦🇺💜 so much love for your channel 😊
I agree I think they were trying to give us more gameplay ideas, but missed the mark. Because (based on what we know so far) these are just things we can already do, just with in-game reminders and structure. But we don’t need those to play these storylines. What I would like to have seen instead is more in-game lore/updates to the existing townies to make the world seem more real. And/or more built in storylines to play like with Strangerville or the Sims 2 stories. Just ways to spice up your gameplay and give a starting point for making up your own stories.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe this IS the 2nd update for season of selves. Lilsimsie said that the 1st update was the swatch one we got a couple of weeks ago which “let us customize our game with color” and the scenarios one is “unlocking a new way to play.” So I think this is it for the year… just this update and 2 other kits and that’s it… what a shame honestly. There are so many other base game updates that have more priority in my mind.
Scenarios will only be as good as the gameplay and that's something that STILL needs to be addressed.
What I want in this game is consequences, curfew hours for children and teens , I see children all day walking around the neighborhood when they should be in school,need more depth to our sims . I can’t even put music in my sims house cause all they want to do is dance . There’s so much more stuff needed in the sims 4 , I agree these are just rags to riches challenges etc….it’s like they hear the sims community but don’t actually listen to what we all want.how about a color wheel like pets have . We can’t have mods on console but that would make our game a lil better .to be able to create our own style of clothing etc…great video as always .
Personally I am looking forward to the Scenarios update. I have tried to play the challenges before but I would lose track or forget rules so I would just give up on it after a while. Having an official in game system that holds your game accountable for you is great in my opinion.
I wouldn’t use this in my “main game” though. I’d maybe set up a new file to play specifically for the scenarios. As I do agree with your comments about having “challenging” game play with consequences for my main game is what I want the most from the sims team, but that’s not to say I can’t enjoy the update in the mean time.
I understand why a lot of simmers who do the challenges already find this a very underwhelming update, but for new players, or players who don’t know about the challenges or players like myself who need a little help with being accountable, I see this as a positive update.
I agree with you on the challenge thing, they missed what we meant. I don't want scenarios I want sims to have proper interactions and more consequences with game play like you said too. I never really do challenges I tend to build more but if I wanted to do challenges I'd check out your vids for ideas cos your ideas are so fun or check forums ect.. EA seem to say they listen but they sometimes miss what we mean for sure. Also bit disappointed about no EP or even a GP this time too :0(
Yeah...I could care less about this update. I haven't played in months at this point and now that I know we aren't getting a new expansion for the end of this year, I'm so disappointed. 😕
To be honest I think it will be interesting. The first sims game I ever played was the sims 2 pet stories and still play sims medieval from time to time so I feel that will be the closest we will get to having something like that again. I also play the same 3 challenges each time so it will be interesting to see what unique ones they will come up with ☺️
I'm also more excited about the idea of what the modders will be able to do with the scenarios but....once again, because EA apparently has not gotten the memo yet....it is not the job of modders to fix or improve the game where EA fails to do so themselves. And like you said, I don't think they understand how people play the game. I understand there are console players, and newer players, and players not as into the online sims community but also, how do you completely turn a blind eye to your players who have been around for literally two decades and how do you not understand those players yet?
Hi! I am italian and I can tell you that part of the italian community watching the EA livestream screamed of joy at the word "scenarios" because it is a false friend with the italian word "scenario" that is how we name worlds in the sims 4 (Willow Creek, Oasis Springs...) 🤣🤣🤣 I had a really fun time oh my gosh 🤣🤣🤣 Btw I really don't need this challenges, and plus they are related only to new family units. I think we need new ones but they copied the existing ones. I'm instead waiting for this new kind of Delivery Sistem in the game, as a new gallery with new downloadable free objects, even in limited edition. I think it would be interesting.
So we constantly complain about nothing new unless its paid dlc ect. We constantly complain about the blank slates sims 4 sims are ect.
But yet any time they give us something everyone screams about it. Nothing they give us is good enough everything they give us is stupid.
People in 2021 are exhausting they want everything but accept nothing.
I also didn't like that they just change the name of the challenge and don't even talked about who created them, that's it's something that the players I already do etc. I really like these challenges be part of the game, it's interesting but I guess we need to see how exactly these scenarios will work
idk i want to try them before i judge them but, yeah, there’s already an aspiration for getting rich and finding romance, its so redundant, what were they thinking
the sims team is so lazy. we all know that they stole these challenges from simmers. also, they know modders will tweak the challenge system. the sims team has very little imagination. modders have been saving the game for years. XMiramira and her Melanin packs. for starters.
The "fill your space with colour" was the update with the swatches and on the Livestream they highlighted that this one is "unlock new ways to play"
As for the update itself it just seems bland to me, like it's nothing new or exciting, I could already do that stuff
But I agree with the point lilsimsie made that there are a lot of people who play the Sims and aren't as involved with the community and may not know this challenges.
As far as crediting goes I suppose it's hard to find the inventor of these since they have been a thing for so long that even simmers posting rags to riches now don't credit anyone. It would have been nice though if they said something like this is popular within the community and this will make it easier and more official for you and showcasted more a challenge that they have created. In the Livestream they just acted like it's their brand new idea and I guessed that that bothered me.
Flamingo/ catfish /baby /Yoda/voodoo
Im hoping they are holding out on us with a bug surprise update that will address cars and or babies. To be honest, I don’t care about either but I know it would make a lot of sims happy. Personally, on my wish list, I’d love to have multiple residences or business and a residence on a single lot and working elevators…it’s so sad that something as simple as elevators are not in the game. (Bug was a typo but i thought it would be ironically funny if I left it alone.)
I understand your frustration but I think it might be better to wait to do a longer video when the update actually comes through and you can see it for yourself. Just a friendly suggestion for the future.
The only reason I am still playing sims 4 because of modders like mccommand, kawaiistacie, luminous, basemental drugs, urbansims, and etrememods.
i hope they are compensating the people who came up with these challenges.
I think if they had gone with what you said about having the community make the challenges; it would be a lot more fun, and I would be willing to do it myself. I know when I play Assassin's Creed Odyssey, they have gamers make up challenging gameplay that a player can choose to click to play them. It's a lot of fun, and it's amazing what the community in AC comes up with as far as gameplay. I really wish they would have done it that way.
finally I found someone who agrees with me... most people seem to be optimistic and excited about this update and I'm just confused and disappointed
Not happy about what they've done.
Look I’m still waiting for werewolves something simple that they had in Sims three and yet we’ve got vampires mermaids spell casters know where wolfs
Taylor - "Scenerios!"... yet, writes 'Scenarios' correctly. 😂
I really don't know what to think about this update...
I just think it would be better if we got a new pack or somthing :/
lilsimsie made a point that they might be doing this for new players that aren't familiar with how to play the game. It makes sense but I would've liked an update to likes and dislikes, an overhaul of whims, and something like wants and fears, or an attraction system. Sims 4 seems too childish to me and even the aspirations are basically "hold you hand" tutorials.
I'm kinda surprised these gurus didn't make mention of the CAS Sim preference changes referenced in the code that are coming soon (source is TURBOdriver)
It makes me wonder if that's the "add dimension to your sims lives" part as we've already seen the "customize your space with color" (which was more base game colors to all objects, which was nice)
I like to think that if you don't have a story idea, this is their way of introducing it to simmers that don't google stuff like Rags to riches/off the grid/homeless, they just need to add credit where its due (If they do add more challenges, i hope they add more scenarios like the scrapped power outage from sims 2, but i'm not holding my breath)
Someone actually said that the "finding love after breakup" was shallow as your sim can get in a romantic relationship then married in one sim day, but until i see how this sceanrio works, this can't be ruled as such yet
To wrap this up, was it me, or did those 3 gurus really not know what was going on with this new feature in the latter half? like they were completely unaware or unsure of how it would work? (I enjoyed the stream, but the latter half left more questions) and i don't know who wasn't moderating the chat but that was terrible...
Sorry if this was too wordy...
Scenarios are pretty good as a concept, but I do see very good potential if they allowed us to make our own scenarios with a Scenario Creator/Maker. Having this allows us to add in our own goals and objectives in scenarios and add it as another way for people to play The Sims 4 by sharing sceanrios that you made with other people. Add our own rewards for completing certain objective and goals in a scenario. It would act very similar to the Scenario Creator/Maker of the game Plague Inc. and also its successor - Rebel Inc. We can make our own challenges and give it to people to try. It would be really awesome if we can have multiple scenarios in one save. We need The Sims Gurus to turn this concept into a reality. If you introduced a new element to The Sims 4, we will ask you to make this into a fully creative feature.
One example that I see would work with a Scenario Creator would be the Not So Berry Challenge. I know it is kinda of a farfetch and complex idea to make it into a scenario, but you can add rewards for completing each rule of that generation as the scenario, and have the generations be the multiple scenarios.
Another example that would work as an idea with the Scenario Creator is having something to do when your sim or sims is a teenager. Give them the best teenhood by making multiple friends, or have the Parenthood Game Pack integrated with with completing one of the goals rewards you with the Private Journal. Make one of your sims a bad sim to the teen sim by having one of the goals be to snoop at another sim's journal. Much like with lots and sims, if you have a scenario that has rewards that requires a specific pack, you will need that specific pack or packs to download the scenario.
As I said, Scenarios has potential, and the best way to do that is to give us a Scenario Creator/Maker and allow us to make and share it so other people can play them. You can upload and share rooms, lots and sims... I don't see why you can't do thast with scenarios. It might seem slow introducing new scenarios, but if we get more people on board with a Scenario Creator/Maker idea, it might be enough to get The Sims Gurus to actually make this feature perfect for absolutely everyone. Even without packs, scenarios is enough to make the gameplay experience worth wild. So scenarios is a good move, but it needs to be better by letting us make the scenarios.
I seriously thought it was going to be a thing where you can create your own challenges. I was so disappointed.
I’ve been playing The Sims since I was 8 years old. I’m 29 right now and I only discovered the online community and the RUclipsrs etc last year. I really think most players play offline and to them scenarios are a cool new thing. I feel like EA listens to the online community but also tries to balance that with all the people who play offline. And I think they achieved just that with this update :-)
Also, when I was a kid I got one expansion pack a year at Christmas and that was it. That’s what I’m used to and the Sims is the only game I know with soooo many new content all the time. Ever since I discovered the online community I’m surprised by how many new content people expect. I didn’t buy kits because I’m still on a high from Dream Home Decorator! I love it that they keep updating the game (with free and paid content) and I think EA sometimes doesn’t get enough credit for that in the online community.
i'd like less linear and more dynamic gameplay. I want my sims lives to be more interesting and things to unfold in a more organic and fun fashion.
First why this is basically a copy of challenges creators ready-made and one more people who created Skyrim have mods for the console people when it's time for EA to take a page out of Skyrim book
I don’t have time to play the challenges. What is this adding for players like me?
I do not care for challenges. If challenges will be introduced into gameplay i will focus more on Parallel Lives. I played Sims for its relaxing free spirit gameplay….not interested in challenges. When do people give credit? It’s nothing new in my world as a so called black American.
On one hand I agree with the lilsimsie perspective on what the reasoning might be behind Scenarios, but on the other it kind of feels like they're trying to take some power back after realizing how much smarter and more creative Simmers are at coming up with incredible game play that comes with both challenging and rewarding storylines - which end up differently every time! If anything, the community is just pushing them to do and be better and maybe this is a catalyst for an even bigger moment of outside-of-the-box thinking and game dev!
I kind of like the idea of challenges, especially if they work in the way that you have to reach goal 1 to unlock something and goal 2 to unlock something else. Like in rags to riches, it wouldnt let you cheat by showering in community lot, visiting other worlds without paying or getting your needs up in someone's home. And as you gain more money, you gain more freedom. I also like the customisation idea. So you could tweak it if you want to add or remove something. Or create your own or use someone else's. It would be so much easier to do legacy challenge and add some restrictions and objectives to each generation. And if you failed, you would have to start again or at some earlier point or had some penalty. I think this also would compensate lack of aspirations. So you could make your own ones that suit your game play
Sims team don't realise that they give us the game we the player make the game what it is today I know they play it
Idk why ppl complaining cuz anything that is added to BG is good
Confused on what they updating
I have a mod that adds Rags to Riches as an aspiration, with a link to the challenge. And if we were getting them as Aspirations, the base game needs more Aspirations. I'm also not thrilled about them adding challenges that were made by the community without attribution or compensation because they've already shaved off the serial numbers when presenting them as names we almost knew, enough that those of us who follow challenges know what they were talking about. I only caught the part of the livestream where they announced this (don't know how I got lucky there) and my hope didn't turn to hype because anyone can have this in the game without EA adding it. I want EA to add things we don't have access to, like bug fixes (the t-posing doctor is getting to me, plus all the things they broke in adding Cottage Living, like building rockets), more aspirations, more occults, refreshing old packs so they work better with new packs, etc. I can do what they offered in my own time, and that's why it disappoints me.
Totally unrelated... I joined the secret society through the university, is there any way to cheat the aspirations to move up in a secret society?? Would love to know 💜💯😊
It’s good for people who are newer to the game, and I’m pretty sure that the target audience is newer players.
I’m excited about it!
But only if good rewards are given for completing the scenarios
I don't pay any attention to the challenges that players create. Im in general not interested in "challenges" which in my mind are slightly grotesque like the 100 baby one. However I believe in credit where credit is due. EA needs to credit the original creators by name (whatever name they go by in community) and give them some kind of cool exclusive gift to them. They already use us for ideas they should at least reward folks who they are blatantly ripping off.
I honestly don't care what EA does anymore.. They are only trying to appeal to the younger demographic. Right now I'm planning on killing my current sims because they pissed me off and they keep glitching and every time I tell then to do something it takes them like three minutes to register.. Their death will be swift and glorious.. With all these bugs and glitches we have in game(that will never be fixed) I think it's fair to eliminate the unresponsive sims as retribution and quality entertainment 👏👏
I’m kinda just ambivalent to the whole thing honestly.
Honestly I just started hearing about the whole scenarios thing. And it's not worth jumping up and down about. I would be more excited if the devs took priority in cleaning up the bugs in the game. I hope it doesn't reach the point of simmers rage quitting Sims, because the game feels like it's deteriorating due to the growing amount of bugs and glitches.
We need Drama 😭
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In the beginning, EA listened to the fans and thus made the content because the game wasn't making enough money. Now... forward 6 years when the covid pandemic broke out, EA made a six ton of money, thus don't need to listen to anyone, not even themselves when, for a good example, they showed a loft window frame that didn't come with the pack.
I just want werewolves to be added to the game. I have thought about getting sims 4 but i'm not going to get it unless they add werewolves and yes i know they have mods for that but the mods just look so weird to me. I was hoping they would add something like sims 3. What i don't get is how is it so hard to add werewolves when they did it in sims 3. It seems like people are talking more about sims 5 and at this point i'm kind of worried that there not even going to put zombies, werewolves or fairies. I don't really care about zombies but werewolves and fairies were fun for me.
Lol basically i think everyone wants the sims 3.. but heavily developed upon.
It would be nice if they gave EA game changers some freedom to make their own scenarios, like lilsimsie making an in-game version of Not So Berry. Otherwise I hope modders will go ham and make us some fun versions of their challenges cause what they gave us so far is really... eh.
While I wish this was a partnership or collab with the individuals who created or are best known for the challenges, I really like the built in structure of the challenge being inherent in the game. I always get bored trying to track particularly complex challenges on my own, and find it hard to remember which generations have which careers and etc. Ever since at least Island Living, I've been keeping my expectations at rock bottom so I wouldn't be disappointed and this is one of the base game updates which actually sounds like it would be fun and compliment how I play the game. I actually really enjoy the idea from EA, but I'm gonna need a lot more scenarios then just rags to riches and 7 toddler challenge, and whatever the other two are meant to be. Even if it gets a lukewarm reception from most people I hope they actually stick with it instead of abandoning it like whims.
Maybe it's just me but I would like to see the developers make a patch or something to where I could buy the lot next door to mine because it is empty and I could use the extra room and I have almost $9, 999 simoleons without cheating so I would really like to be able to use them besides on stuff that I do not need I am almost at the point where I have to buy things and delete them just to use up some simoleons
I am wanting to get set up to play S4 BUT I dont have the right computer for it... could someoneplease recommend a good computer or what i need as far as upgrading to use what already have! THANK YOU SIMMERS
Things TS4 could do instead of leech from players:
Give us Apartments to make from the ground up like in TS2
FREE THE BABIES!
Fix the times it takes to get things done.
Give us the option for rotational play like in TS2.
Just start making more worlds with more lots.
Go through the basegames of TS, TS2, and TS3 and give us what they haven't given us yet
Bring back the Social Bunny
Give us a color wheel for clothing and hair
Make pets clickable
Give us cheats w/o using MCC or UI
Seriously! I can't even believe I have to DL mod to raise my sims' hunger level. All these cheats were in the original games.
Give Teens, Kids, and Old People fun things to do. Look at TS3 Generations and go from there.
So many things they could actually do but whatever.
I don't even have TS4 anymore. I'm just here for the tea.
*Loads TS2*
For every idea you're going to have people that think it's exciting, and people that do not. I think what we're not addressing (which is sort of an elephant in the room) is that, you don't get a pat on the back for shouting from the roof tops that you made something more diverse. Just do it. Also, as a Hispanic I do feel underrepresented in CAS. I think the things that are given are almost costume-ish like the sugar skull makeup and the Mariachi outfit. I agree that taking things from paid packs and just slapping them into base game so that there's more representation is not the way to go. It's a start, and it's a step. But do better EA. There are so many people out there that would love to collaborate with you to provide new things that are NEW to all.
I actually like the scenarios. I’ve done challenges before, like empty shell challenges and rags to riches but the scenarios give a fresh perspective on every play through, especially for new players or players who go on sim hiatus' and get bored of the same way of playing or simmers who aren’t RUclipsrs.
I haven’t done the toddler/baby challenges before because I rarely play with toddlers as it is, it’s difficult lol, but I did do the toddler scenario and actually enjoyed it. I’m looking forward to see what else they bring.
Yes, these challenges have been a thing but now there’s an UI for it and rules and direction for players. I don’t see what the problem is lol. If people don’t like it then don’t choose the “Play scenarios” option 😅
I will say, I really hope they start working on bugs now. 😬🤦🏽♀️
Hey cuz! I think the problem with EA introducing consequences is that Sims 4 is marketed as a sandbox game. It's not Sims Living Large. When players say they want "story progression", it means different things to different players. I have a carer who insists that "story progression" means a narrative-driven story, not a sandbox where you create your own story. He says we literally have whims for that. Granted, he does not like EA and is worried about micro-transactions coming into the game and bugs, but the point is that everyone has their own interpretation of what the Sims should be.
Personally, I just play the game for creating my own fantasy families and I don't want to worry about my fledgling vampire sims dying when I move them to Sulani, etc. If they do implement more "realism" into the game, I want it to be toggled, and I think that's the problem. It would be too much to implement features that everyone wants, so they make executive decisions that not everyone likes. Heck, I'm still waiting for werewolf sims. They should have been introduced by now. Last time I checked, I couldn't fix my sim's shower-tub combo. There's just so much for them to do that it would take a miracle for them to do everything.
If you want story progression, they literally have games for that on Steam.
I'm also disappointed... At this point the only ting I want from the Sims team, is having actual simmers employed to work on the game... It's obvious they don't play the game or enjoy/respect it. When they want us to go in depth about "what we mean by more challenging game play".... But then disregard our input and give us face value challenges tat already exist... 😒 Boo. Just over it.
I have mixed feelings about the scenarios. As a new player I'm excited to see what happens with the update and how the scenarios work. But I can totally appreciate how everyone who has been playing for years feels about this update too.
because console players arent allowed to cheat and it opens up gameplay in new ways
I think it's important to realize that not everyone knows about the challenges. LilSimsie made a really good video discussing it.
Some people have never played the sims games before and not everyone is very involved in the community. I can speak for myself, I didn't even realize the challenges were a thing until a couple of years ago. I don't really think it's that big of a deal, I think it was overhyped yes but it's not a negative thing.