🤣🤣 And I thought it was only this generation that don't know the definition of 'literally'. My eighteen-year-old nephew told me yesterday that he arrived late to work because there were 'literally' twenty million cars blocking the exit to his street. I asked him if he took a photograph and told me "No. I literally have no storage left on my phone." 😁😁
@@mattthompson4836 Yes, but that wasn't the only strange part of that comment. I was puzzled by the last word used. Why "barbaric"? 😂I guess we'll never know. 🤔 Edit: 🤔
I remember my grandmother on Dennis winning stated he’s a cheat, his glasses give him an unfair advantage. I said he’d probably prefer good eyesight than have to wear glasses, ‘nah he’s cheating!’ 😂
Everyone remembers the missed black by Jimmy White in '94 but '92 was the year he really should have won it when he led Hendry 14-8 having completely outplayed him up to that point.
Despite being in 6 finals I think 1982 was his best chance when he lost to Higgins in the semi final. Pretty sure he would have gone on to beat Reardon although I don’t suppose it would have done much to change his match preparation for future tournaments.
Every time anyone mentions White and ‘94 I feel bad all over again! I agree with the above poster that ‘82 was probably at least a good opportunity. The clearance from Alex was one of the greatest of all time - technique, determination and massive pressure.
Jimmy missed a red with the rest against Alex Higgins in the 1982 semi final. Had it gone in he would have won that match and likely beaten Ray Reardon in the final. What might have been.
I'll never forget Tony Knowles blaming the missed pink on an eye problem. Strange the sty on his eye didn't affect all the other pots he made up to that pink.
I'd never seen that Fred Davis shot before - thank you for uploading older games. I can't help but feel if he'd not acknowledged the applause and settled, he would have taken it.
Steve davis, and denis taylor, there legs must of been like jelly. Remember it as a kid. The pressure at such moments must be so enormous. Good that davis can look back and laugh, but at the time it must of haunted him for a long time.
Everyone remembers that missed black by Steve Davis. Not so many remember Dennis Taylor fought back from 8-0 down after the first session of that final. I'm sure the fear of losing after being 8-0 ahead got to Steve Davis, just a little bit.
Terry Griffiths missing an easy green at 12/9 up in the 1986 quarter final against as Certain Joe Johnson changed the career of the latter. Johnson from then on hardly missed a ball in the final three and a half frames and then of course won the championship. The Allen miss here wouldnt be in the top 1000 brutal mistakes
I forgot that. Yes Johnson came through that match and then just never looked back. It wasn't a miss but I don't know if u remember Cliff Thorburn missing a pink when snookered by Jimmy White in the final frame of the 86 mercantile credit classic. Jimmy then potted pink and black!
People forget that Jimmy still needed to pot a few more balls to win. That black wasn't match ball. If he'd potted it he might still have missed one as he got nearer the winning line.
It didn't happen at the crucible but this reminds me of a famous miss from Willie Thorne at the 85 UK final. He was leading the then world no 1 Steve Davis 13-8 and had a blue off the spot to lead 14-8, missed it and Davis cleared up and went on to win 16-14!
Too true. That cueball can drop in the pocket from ANY angle imaginable and a few unimaginable. The darned thing is the only known object in existence that can defy physics😜😳
He'd have given Steve Davis more of a game in the final than Cliff Thorburn. Cliff was exhausted and had had some bad personal news and barely turned up in the match.
Jimmy white in the 94 final is the worst snooker moment in history for me. Misses the black off the spot when the table is wide open for him to clear. Devastated. Also proper gutted in this video for and even more losing to John Higgins tonight too. That in-off for Allen was so cruel though.
I have always thought that match was fixed. It basically took snooker to another level, and Barry Hearn (who already managed Davis) ended up managing Taylor as well and a lot of the other top players. I think Davis purposely lost games and allowed Taylor to win. Taylor probably didn't know at the time.
I lived in Sheffield at the time and was at the crucible Steve Davi’s did not lose the title he gave away under hearts orders to help the game grow in Ireland simple .
Amazing how all the pressures and anxiety at the potting of that final black for perfection never seems to Even enter Ronnie O’Sullivans head or psyche?????was he born missing these pressure spots in the mind?😮…..it boggles my mind how he doesn’t wilt on the black when us mere mortals do.l so wanted nice guy Ken Doherty to pot it😢
Do you think in 2024 a 65 year old could reach the semi final? Show how the standard has risen. Please dont say Ronnie,even Ronnie at 65 wouldnt be able to compete.
There's no way Mark Allen's shot on the black was in any sense a "mistake". It's an extremely difficult pot, so he simply has to put all his mental efforts and concentration into ensuring the pot. He can't get distracted by the small possibility of going in-off. If he played specifically to prevent the in-off, he would have been much more likely to miss the pot. This was bad luck, not a "mistake". There is some luck in snooker.
It isn't really luck though is it. Luck is something entirely out of our control, like getting a kick, or a member of the audience sneezing during the shot. Mark Allen was 100% responsible for the in-off. Fair enough he didn't know exactly where it would finish, but that isn't luck per se. He could chosen to hit it slightly differently and it would have a different outcome. He judged it wrongly, it wasn't luck.
@@scottseedell238 Thanks for your reply. I'll make my point another way, avoiding any definition of "luck". As the commentator said ("six inches further than he would have liked"), Mark Allen was faced with an extremely difficult pot. He didn't make the pot -- he went in-off of course. However, he came very close. It seems ridiculous and totally bizarre to categorise the miss of an extremely difficult pot but crucial pot as some type of historic "mistake". By that logic, players are making terrible mistakes whenever they lose to O'Sullivan. Suppose he avoided the in-off and missed the pot by having the black wiggle in the jaws of the pocket and stay over the pocket for Cao to pot. Would that also be a historic mistake?
@@AngrierGorilla There is no commentator that would refer to a 64year Fred Davis missing a pressure pink as a mistake. Or getting a crazy bounce off a cushion 3 times the speed as a mistake
It was tragic really. When Fred missed the pink, brother Joe collapsed back in his seat. On leaving the the theatre he fell flat on the pavement and was rushed to hospital. He underwent a heart operation but died a few weeks later while convalescing in Hampshire.
Jimmy white lost another classic match in the world snooker final because he can not focus properly in the heat of battle against the best snooker players of all time davis and hendry. They have both got nerves of steel. 0n his tombstone will say greatest player never to have won the world snooker title. In the world seniors tournament jimmy was the champion reason being it was a very short match.
I really,really wanted and thought that Jimmy White was going to win it, i even put a bet on him winning it. He is the best the player on to have won it. As for Steve Davis so glad he lost, didn't like him in the 80s&90s.
Nobody will ever convince me that 85 final wasn't a fix, the amount of misses Davis had to come up with was just a joke and Taylor still acts like he won the world title, instead of being given it
these are special glasses made for Billard sports. with regular glasses you watching over the glasses border. thats why those bins are a little bit higher so you can focus on your shot while seeing through the glasses
During the Fred Davis shot the crowd were 'literally electrified and glued to their seats' . Barbaric
Yeah snooker back then weren't for commoners! Only the hardcore people would watch it.
🤣🤣 And I thought it was only this generation that don't know the definition of 'literally'. My eighteen-year-old nephew told me yesterday that he arrived late to work because there were 'literally' twenty million cars blocking the exit to his street. I asked him if he took a photograph and told me "No. I literally have no storage left on my phone." 😁😁
😂
It was the 70s lol
@@mattthompson4836 Yes, but that wasn't the only strange part of that comment. I was puzzled by the last word used. Why "barbaric"? 😂I guess we'll never know. 🤔
Edit: 🤔
Fantastic - I so wish even today that Fred had potted that pink after that wonderful blue, a having played so beautifully throughout the tournament.
Fate was so cruel that evening . for the Davis and snooker world
What a lovely smile Fred Davis had
Fred Davis was 64! When he got to the Semi-finals of the 1978 Snooker World Championships. Mind blown!
Beat a peak Dennis Taylor in getting there too long past his own peak imagine how well he would have done if he was 30 years younger 😮
This might also blow your mind: Fred played against Ronnie in '92. He played his final game in the '93 World Championship!
@@Cannibalable Even took a frame off him too.
His brother Joe was world champion 15 times
I remember my grandmother on Dennis winning stated he’s a cheat, his glasses give him an unfair advantage. I said he’d probably prefer good eyesight than have to wear glasses, ‘nah he’s cheating!’ 😂
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's thought that.
Dear old Fred Davis, a WWII veteran, 8-time world champion. Some 22 years after his last title remarkably reached the ‘78 semi-final aged 64.
If he'd reached the final Ray Reardon would have absolutely killed him...
Everyone remembers the missed black by Jimmy White in '94 but '92 was the year he really should have won it when he led Hendry 14-8 having completely outplayed him up to that point.
Yes. Who would think SH would win 10 frames in a row.
Had he won in 92 (or before ) he'd have won in 94. The monkey on his back is what caused him to miss.
@@AndrewGoodwin-w7j was a massive steve davis fan. i think he was 9-8 up against hendry in the 94 semi. hendry won the next 8 in a row to win it.
Yes what a game that was also ken Doherty miss on the 147 at the masters
1985... What a year. Back to the future, Take on me, Snooker world championship final...
Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48k for Christmas.
Joey Deacon impressions in the playground at school.
That was Jimmys year for the title 94 missed the black I’m still gutted today
Despite being in 6 finals I think 1982 was his best chance when he lost to Higgins in the semi final. Pretty sure he would have gone on to beat Reardon although I don’t suppose it would have done much to change his match preparation for future tournaments.
@@EVil-ob8in still one the greatest games ever that semi 16-15 higgins v white! Jimmy should of had that one in the bag to be fair!
@@paule8174 Yes he should've.
Every time anyone mentions White and ‘94 I feel bad all over again! I agree with the above poster that ‘82 was probably at least a good opportunity. The clearance from Alex was one of the greatest of all time - technique, determination and massive pressure.
So is he.
Was born in 63,, so saw the rise of snooker right up to its Hay Day ... Great Days,,, Never to be seen again..
@user-ht1oy4lp6e You only joined up a few days ago,,, and your making friends already,,, well done..
Jimmy's missed black off the spot. Is the only miss. 6 times a finalist. The best player never to lift that trophy.
One of the most brutal examples of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
That's the one I find hardest to watch.
I'm actually 64 now and Fred Davis looks old enough to be my dad.
Jimmy missing the black against Hendry after all that time trying, hurts me still watching it, can only imagine how he feels..🥺
Jimmy missed a red with the rest against Alex Higgins in the 1982 semi final. Had it gone in he would have won that match and likely beaten Ray Reardon in the final. What might have been.
Don't think he would have beaten Reardon. Reardon was a great safety player, would have undone Jimmy.
Literally got goosebumps again from Taylor v Davis. 39 years ago I was a ten year old allowed to stay up and watch that. Wow.
Fred Davis is the epitome of the English gentlemen!!!!
I'll never forget Tony Knowles blaming the missed pink on an eye problem. Strange the sty on his eye didn't affect all the other pots he made up to that pink.
Knowles was overrated
I'd never seen that Fred Davis shot before - thank you for uploading older games. I can't help but feel if he'd not acknowledged the applause and settled, he would have taken it.
Needed to make an appointment to see Fred Davis' shot. He took forever aiming and actually committing to shoot the ball.
Steve davis, and denis taylor, there legs must of been like jelly.
Remember it as a kid.
The pressure at such moments must be so enormous.
Good that davis can look back and laugh, but at the time it must of haunted him for a long time.
1985 was the first final I remember watching with my late dad... Great memories....Well played Dennis.
Davies's black was very missable
It was. But he missed it by several inches to be fair.
@@frankbrodie5168 Yeah he actually over-cut it didn't he, normally not enough of an angle, but over did it for sure, the pinnacle of snooker memories
Thank goodness snooker commentary has improved.
you think>?
@@spleeeen4it - yes
I was 17 in 1985 and was so gutted that Steve Davis missed that final black. I still am .
Everyone remembers that missed black by Steve Davis. Not so many remember Dennis Taylor fought back from 8-0 down after the first session of that final.
I'm sure the fear of losing after being 8-0 ahead got to Steve Davis, just a little bit.
I am reading Steve Davis' autobiography at the moment and he says he didnt like having such big leads in matches.
I believe his bairn told him to put his lucky suit on or something like that at the time , worked :)
I think he was still spooked from losing the UK Championship final to Alex Higgins 18 months earlier after having been 7-0 up.
Just the opposite, he relaxed and eased up thinking he had already won, then couldn't turn it back on again!
It was a fix, Taylor signed with Hearn just after, Steve was expecting to win more world titles than he did, he gave that one away under Hearn orders.
Terry Griffiths missing an easy green at 12/9 up in the 1986 quarter final against as Certain Joe Johnson changed the career of the latter. Johnson from then on hardly missed a ball in the final three and a half frames and then of course won the championship. The Allen miss here wouldnt be in the top 1000 brutal mistakes
I forgot that. Yes Johnson came through that match and then just never looked back. It wasn't a miss but I don't know if u remember Cliff Thorburn missing a pink when snookered by Jimmy White in the final frame of the 86 mercantile credit classic. Jimmy then potted pink and black!
@@onthe4572 I certainly do jimmy ended up winning 13/12 I was a great one ball snooker
Wow, I knew Tony Knowles lost in a deciding frame back in 1983 but had no idea he missed an easy pink for a place in the final!
He would have gone to No. 1, too.. His game never recovered!! Crazy
I was jumping with joy lol
People forget that Jimmy still needed to pot a few more balls to win. That black wasn't match ball. If he'd potted it he might still have missed one as he got nearer the winning line.
Obviously knew Jimmy never won it but had no idea he was that close. That’s heartbreaking
Joe Johnson s potting was ridiculous ,amazing to watch him become world champion
I was there. travelled by train from Liverpool had to leave early to get last train
I’m sure the cue balls KNOW when Virgo is commentating so head for the pockets on a more regular basis…
Did Dennis Taylor win the 85 final?? He never ever mentions it in commentary nowadays 😮
2:54
The shot that killed Joe Davis. Very tragic.
What about Ken Doherty's miss on the final black for his 147 break?
David Ike can’t believe Steve Davis missed that black but he can believe the British royal family are lizards wearing human suits?
David Icke is awesome
@@drolde 🤣🤣
I missed that comment completely. 🤪
I can’t believe David icke has more knowledge than you
Anybody who wears a shell suit just can't be taken seriously. No sir!!
What happened to your recent videos?
Amazing how every miss was in the same pocket. Even Allen's black was same pocket....
Fred Davis is about 87 there. Mad how old he was
It says he was 64.
On the clip he’s only 4 years older than Jimmy White is now
He was 85 when he died
@@TheWacoKid1963 84.
It didn't happen at the crucible but this reminds me of a famous miss from Willie Thorne at the 85 UK final. He was leading the then world no 1 Steve Davis 13-8 and had a blue off the spot to lead 14-8, missed it and Davis cleared up and went on to win 16-14!
Remember it well - Willie had completely outplayed Davis up to that point and that proved the turning point in the match.
Jimmy left that black far too high I thought, too much cut when your that nervous
Yeah it looks very missable, always thought they made out it was easier than it was.
@@snookerworldchampionship2023 they do say you should never miss a black off the spot, but 17-17 in WC final, that’s a hard shot
The cue ball never seems to have any problems dropping into the pocket 🤣
Too true. That cueball can drop in the pocket from ANY angle imaginable and a few unimaginable. The darned thing is the only known object in existence that can defy physics😜😳
What a character Fred Davies was always smiling
the one with Allen warms my heart every time
Tony Knowles “The Bolton Bottler!”
@@jpip1382 Jamesons International
What a chance for Tony Knowles to reach 1983! Final. !
He'd have given Steve Davis more of a game in the final than Cliff Thorburn. Cliff was exhausted and had had some bad personal news and barely turned up in the match.
Jimmy white in the 94 final is the worst snooker moment in history for me. Misses the black off the spot when the table is wide open for him to clear. Devastated. Also proper gutted in this video for and even more losing to John Higgins tonight too. That in-off for Allen was so cruel though.
love the cardigan @ 2.30
Fred Davis spent to much time milking the audience after that double.....needed to concentrate and finish off frame.
After all them sad moments for snooker players, then they do the worst at the end, putting mcguigan on , 😔🇮🇪🇮🇪☘️☘️
To this day i still can't believe Steve missed that black by that margin
I have always thought that match was fixed. It basically took snooker to another level, and Barry Hearn (who already managed Davis) ended up managing Taylor as well and a lot of the other top players. I think Davis purposely lost games and allowed Taylor to win. Taylor probably didn't know at the time.
I lived in Sheffield at the time and was at the crucible Steve Davi’s did not lose the title he gave away under hearts orders to help the game grow in Ireland simple .
Davis was that miss away from 7 world titles, before hendry
The Steve Davis black was a very thin cut, almost ninety degrees, and very easy to hit too thick. He over compensated and missed it thin.
I wasnt stunned when Allen lost, l would have pointed and laughed! But thats Virgo for you who as lived off that phrase for years now
Tony Knowles miss pink. ! Biggest miss in Snooker History !
Stephen Hendrey's missed black in the centre against Mark Williams. May not have been the Crucible though.
It was in the Masters in 1998 on a respotted black in the deciding frame.
Jon Vergos epic cacthphrase ,wears the que ball going to go? ? ?
Always thought that Tony Knowles was the goat at scoring
Misses... Not mistakes...
if you miss a shot, it's a mistake, isn't it?
Wheres Kens miss on the black at 140
That was in the Masters I think.
Amazing how all the pressures and anxiety at the potting of that final black for perfection never seems to Even enter Ronnie O’Sullivans head or psyche?????was he born missing these pressure spots in the mind?😮…..it boggles my mind how he doesn’t wilt on the black when us mere mortals do.l so wanted nice guy Ken Doherty to pot it😢
@@peteWxM1970 he just refuses to pot it
Didn't affect the outcome of the match, only his bank balance.
I can't see in what the match between Cao vs Mark has involved a miss that was costly.
The black Davis missed was nowhere near as easy as people think. That's a tricky pot
BRUTAL mistakes ..are you kidding watching snooker IS BRUTAL..his cheeks puffed out wow ..
The biggest mistake in snooker was when the canteen at the crucible served STEPHEN LEE a salad
Big snatch from Knowles
Dislocated shoulder Fred Davis
Get the content uploaded again 😉👌🏻
Icke is the best part of this video.
If only Fred potted that pink he may have got to the final and won his 9th world title beating Ray in the final.
Ray would have thrashed him.
17 frames all and a black ball game and David Icke goes to bed before the end?
Do you think in 2024 a 65 year old could reach the semi final? Show how the standard has risen. Please dont say Ronnie,even Ronnie at 65 wouldnt be able to compete.
Thats the best, wheres the cue ball going ever
Strange how jimmy got more hair 30 years later
Got to be Jimmy whites missing the black when he looked like he had it
There's no way Mark Allen's shot on the black was in any sense a "mistake". It's an extremely difficult pot, so he simply has to put all his mental efforts and concentration into ensuring the pot. He can't get distracted by the small possibility of going in-off. If he played specifically to prevent the in-off, he would have been much more likely to miss the pot. This was bad luck, not a "mistake". There is some luck in snooker.
It isn't really luck though is it. Luck is something entirely out of our control, like getting a kick, or a member of the audience sneezing during the shot. Mark Allen was 100% responsible for the in-off. Fair enough he didn't know exactly where it would finish, but that isn't luck per se. He could chosen to hit it slightly differently and it would have a different outcome. He judged it wrongly, it wasn't luck.
@@scottseedell238 Thanks for your reply. I'll make my point another way, avoiding any definition of "luck". As the commentator said ("six inches further than he would have liked"), Mark Allen was faced with an extremely difficult pot. He didn't make the pot -- he went in-off of course. However, he came very close. It seems ridiculous and totally bizarre to categorise the miss of an extremely difficult pot but crucial pot as some type of historic "mistake". By that logic, players are making terrible mistakes whenever they lose to O'Sullivan. Suppose he avoided the in-off and missed the pot by having the black wiggle in the jaws of the pocket and stay over the pocket for Cao to pot. Would that also be a historic mistake?
mark allen didnt miss the cue ball went in off
None of these are mistakes. 4 missed shots and one crazy bounce off the cushion for Allen
@Damien Montero Thanks for explaining. Doesn't sound like you know the game well
@Damien Montero You like to ask a question and answer it yourself. You won't learn much that way
A missed shot is a mistake. Or even not judging the cueball's path is a mistake. Commentators use this term very often when players miss shots.
@@AngrierGorilla There is no commentator that would refer to a 64year Fred Davis missing a pressure pink as a mistake. Or getting a crazy bounce off a cushion 3 times the speed as a mistake
@@mikekavalerchik5226 so what is a mistake?
3.49. ‘Tragic’ ? Calm down, Mr Weeks.
Considering he suffered a heart problem died few weeks later..
It was tragic really. When Fred missed the pink, brother Joe collapsed back in his seat. On leaving the the theatre he fell flat on the pavement and was rushed to hospital. He underwent a heart operation but died a few weeks later while convalescing in Hampshire.
@@chrisbland6942 If the "Joe" to whom you refer, is your brother, then yes it is tragic.
@@castleanthrax1833 I don't have a brother.
@@chrisbland6942 Thanks for not explaining who Joe was then. It's always nice when people leave cryptic comments. 👍
tony “the stud” knowles probably had money riding on that miss….just sayin like
I gave a thumbs down . To many adverts for a short film .
Here for the fat Allen moment 😂😂😂 love it!
Jimmy white lost another classic match in the world snooker final because he can not focus properly in the heat of battle against the best snooker players of all time davis and hendry. They have both got nerves of steel. 0n his tombstone will say greatest player never to have won the world snooker title. In the world seniors tournament jimmy was the champion reason being it was a very short match.
I really,really wanted and thought that Jimmy White was going to win it, i even put a bet on him winning it. He is the best the player on to have won it. As for Steve Davis so glad he lost, didn't like him in the 80s&90s.
Spoiler alert.....
Jimmy White never won the title
You had me until Icke
Was that last match a tournament for diplomats only then? 😂
I don't think Knowles was that good in the main.
Fred Davis reaching that semi final is the greatest achievement in snooker
Fred's was a bad miss. Just goes to show literally anything is missable
That will teach Fred Davis for being happy, you are meant to be serious, I mean, look at Jimmy White recently, with the referee laughing.
Jimmy some bottler. The missed black was so wide it didnt even jaw the pocket. Laughable.
The pink ball is evil.
Ronnie's missed pink v Selby?
Stupid clickbait title.
Nobody will ever convince me that 85 final wasn't a fix, the amount of misses Davis had to come up with was just a joke and Taylor still acts like he won the world title, instead of being given it
He did win and it wasn't fixed.
None of them had the makings of a varsity athlete’
How slow are these players from back in the day. What a miserable spectacle
Well I prefer it. No personality now and it’s boring. Sipping their water . They all look the same
Is Dennis Taylor’s glasses upside down? Lmfao😅😅 (edited for the idiots that don’t realize this is a joke)
LOL you ever played the game? Those bins are perfect.
@@Darwinion lol. Love the game. You?
these are special glasses made for Billard sports. with regular glasses you watching over the glasses border. thats why those bins are a little bit higher so you can focus on your shot while seeing through the glasses
@@ThomasTune82 nice. Still look goofy. But good to know
I rewatched Taylor vs Davis - I now reckon Davis lost on purpose!
I always thought that. Looked like he over cut that black on purpose
Don't be silly
@@nakkadu Watch how quickly Davis plays - watch how Taylor completely freezes yet Davis repeatedly misses easy shots.
@@garyphisher7375 That last black was very missable in those circumstances. Are you suggesting he was missing shots all through the match?
@@nakkadu That is exactly what I'm suggesting. Betting Taylor would win would've been more profitable.
Taylor didn't win it Davis give it him !!!!
Nobody gives the title, it’s always won
Mark Allen 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂