I get my leanest by increasing carbs. It allows me to plow through cardio. I've found cutting out carbs just gives a temporary water weight loss. Which I think many people mistake for a fat burning effect.
Low carb diet worked for many and me included. And it is sustainable. It may not be everyone, sure. Some prefer to exercise more via increasing (maybe slightly) carb...that works too, it's not an either or thingy. Actually, they both helped me.
@@leo35577 I'm curious... What do you mean by lean year round exactly? With strength and stamina, how (and what) do you measure? If you are not on keto and eat zero carb... What's your macros like? And what exercise do you engage in... If you don't mind me asking?
When I first started seeing Laynes videos... I wasn't crazy about him. Now I pretty much go straight to him for any nutrion questions I'm pondering. This guy knows his stuff and spreads absolutely unbiased, fact based content. Thanks for all the help in helping me in my journey to my ideal body composition.
@@DaniS398 Which just means that he won't get reality, just an abstraction that he will project on people, get a slice of the population and then moralize the other for not "getting it". Dude, those technicians are so dumb and stupid that you can't make them realize a simple thing as personal variability.
Nothing wrong with sharing an opinion but what makes it tough is when people believe whatever comes out of their mouth because of high status/fame. I followed locarb philosophy awhile back for a few seasons. I learned that my strength gets cut in half, muscles have no pop and look skinny. Plus its a disaster trying to manage that diet in a culture dominated with carbs. So no thanks, Id rather enjoy life with balance and flexibility to look, feel and express my best self!
i experienced severe muscle recovery problems (1 week sore after 2 sets of pushups) after doing keto for a few months. couldnt do any training or sport anymore because of fatigue and lactic burning in the muscle. now i introduced carbs (potatoe and fruit) back in my diet. getting a bit better but still not normals. any recommandations?
Dude been follow you forever I’m 59 and been training for awhile -40 years ! Last 4 years dialed in on diet and feel I’m ready to do a classic physique masters show . I’ve given myself lots of time -I’m currently 5’11 194 lbs shows in 44 weeks - realistically 180lbs I would be peeled . Would your contest prep book work for me ? I can do this without a coach . Dedicated and been resilient as a fuck last few years . Bucket list goal - as I wasted my youth. Merry Christmas to you and family .
3:56 This is why Paul Salazar eats carbs now. He wanted to go climbing more regularly and didn’t have the energy to do so without carbs. The Army also studied keto decades ago, and chose not to promote it due to the effect on peoples’ ability to do hard physical work.
That's a bunch of bull crap The military is socialism for American garbage food. What do you think is in MREs? We'd call it explosive constipation for a reason. On combat patrols we'd eat the tuna and chicken and throw everything else away. It slowed you down made you sick and made you shjt your pants while tearing your anus. But by all means. Promote that healthy Army diet.
My problem with carbs is once I start eating some I can't resist pigging out on more. It creates unstoppable cravings lol. This is my biggest reason for staying very low carb.
same for me. It creates late evening snacks, butchering a whole pack of chips or simply wandering around the kitchen for some carbs to eat. Really hard to resist.
@@Anthony-dy5cq ohh my friend Anthony.... you bring me the Doritos and the Cheetos and the Tim's Cascade style jalapeno chips and I'll be glad to show you how tf I can pig out on carbs. Guaranteed 😊
I think the point is eating carbs, especially processed lends itself to overeating. Going low carb means having whole foods and the tendency to overeat diminishes and so your caloric intake is lower. Much easier to lose weight.
Right… nowadays everything is social media fodder… just for views n followers. This guy Layne… when he goes on other interviews… he speaks eloquently n quite reserved… in his own channel he talks like coach greg…
I was one of healthy eating guy without eating junk food. But the doctor told me I am pre-diabetic. Keto helped me free from diabetes so in conclusion, healthy carbs are illusionary.
Isn‘t gluconeogenesis the proof that carbs are essential ? Carbs are that important and supply needs to be steady and this should be the reason why the body has an own process to produce them ?
No, excess glucose is toxic and inflammatory to cells, tissues, and organs. Since the body produces all of the glucose we need, consuming carbohydrates can cause unnecessary glycation damage.
@@BloodGangBrazy Then by your reasoning cholesterol should also be strictly limited because our bodies produce all the cholesterol it needs as well .but something tells me you dont feel that way about cholesterol...
@@nelsonhoffman5922the amount of dietary cholesterol that the body absorbs is miniscule. Dietary cholesterol is also not toxic. Glucose on the other hand is used up by the body in its entirety.
Low fat diets cause insulin resistance, and low protein diets cause sarcopenia , low carb diets don’t cause any of these problems , so obviously if you’re reducing calories carbs are the best macro nutrient to reduce.
@@Leopold---1320 probably because low fat diet will lead to higher carbohydrate intake which is what makes you diabetic. No sense that low fat would cause diabetes.
@@rachellelewis9389 protein while possibly contributing to dopamine production does not cause a dopamine response regarding a reward system…carbs do…hence addiction
I think if you are not counting calories then cutting carbs might work better as the fat makes you feel fuller. As i said “I think” as i have never cut carbs myself, I prefer to count calories and protein and let the other macros be what ever they are 😀
Cutting out carbs is a tool that makes it very easy to eat low calorie and high protein. When I ate keto I got VERY lean while maintaining a lot of strength. However I did so by eating a couple dextrose pills before/during my weight training sessions. Now that I eat a high carb diet my cardio and explosiveness and recovery are better and digestion is great but it’s very difficult to eat at maintenance without counting calories. Carbs increase appetite.
@@elzee4253really ? I always thought a calorie was a unit of measurement that determined how much energy or (heat) is contained in something. So in answer to your question I count the units of measurement assigned to the food I eat. But hey feel free to correct me if you know better, as I get the feeling you may want to….
@mas-udal-hassan9277 how so ? Thats like saying having a budget is a dumb idea when it comes to saving money. It may not work best for you but it will certainly work for most people and is definitely not dumb
Tbh.. I notice the difference in my performance when I don’t eat carbs. BUT.. unfortunately the disease I have makes it so that carbs(along with other things) cause inflammation in my body and my body to attack my joints soooo I guess it’s either be weak or be in pain.
The term "need" is pretty relative to the subject being discussed. From a nutrition physiology standpoint, the only things we "need" for survival are Essential Amino Acids, Essential Fatty Acids, vitamins, and minerals. From a health or performance standpoint, whether you "need" carbs is more subjective. There are several factors that need to be considered; genetics, psychological, goals, etc. At the end of the day, it comes down to Biochemical Individuality. The enzymatic function/profile of an individual will determine whether it's healthy or not for them to eat any particular diet. We have proteases which help us to digest proteins, amylases which help us to digest carbohydrate, and lipases which help us to digest fats. If someone isn't producing an adequate amount of amylases and a sufficient amount of proteases and lipases, then a high carb diet would not be good for that individual and something like a high protein or high fat diet would be great for them. Likewise, if an individual produces an adequate amount of amylases and an insufficient amount of proteases and lipases, than a high protein and high fat diet would not be beneficial for that individual and they would benefit from adding more carbohydrates.
@@altaisrs2857 No, if you eat an adequate amount of animal protein and fat then it is uncomfortable to overeat. If your life is so "depressingly boring" that you need to eat unnecessary, toxic, and inflammatory plant foods then you maybe should consider volunteer work or some other hobby for pleasure.
Layne, you will probably will not reply but I would be really happy if you could review the huge study that showed that the more people ate carbs the more likely they where to develop alzhimer.
Check out Dr. Georgia Ede. Her work in this area is amazing. Almost all things previously thought of as mental health/brain issues are actually metabolic.
The "no essential carbohydrate" concept, takes a truth, we don't need to consume exogenous glucose to stay alive, and then mistakenly thinks that means "optimal". Love, laughter, friendship, art and music aren't "essential" either. You won't die without them. But to live without them would be considered suboptimal. You would not be living your best life, physically and emotionally, if you were isolated from humanity. Reducing all of life to what is "essential" to literally just stay alive is not an impressive list - basically just food and water. I think we all strive for more than just being technically alive.
@@BloodGangBrazy This holds true for fat as well. In fact, overfeeding saturated fat causes fatty liver disease quicker and at a more serverse level than overfeeding fructose. Keto folks conveniently ignore this reality because it blows up their dogma and gets to the real problem - chronic overconsumption of energy macros.
@@claybutler Obviously, too much of anything can become pathological. That is not an argument for why anyone should eat carbohydrates. There is no evidence that metabolically healthy people would benefit from eating carbs over a ketogenic diet.
@@BloodGangBrazy It's not a very good argument though is it, as Clay Butler points out it goes for fat as well, but also of course for protein. The key problem is that you use the word "excess" which already implies a negative. It doesn't really matter what follows. The problem occurs that if the argument is used the implication is that what follows is the problem, rather than a far more general excess such as which is the case with food consumption. So given that people knowingly but needlessly and incorrectly emphasise an excess of carbohydrates, it's not a mischaracterization of the argument at all.
So, why do we continue to take scientific nutrition/health advice from people that get punched in the head for a living? The same goes for entertainers, other athletes, and anyone who is selling you a product.
It baffles me sometimes when you get people who fight in the ufc where their diet and nutrition is so key not just for performance but also for making weight not have a clue about nutrition at all. Like you're a professional athlete and you have no idea about one of the key components of your sport. Not even the basics
Why are people so religious and dogmatic about food and diets? What works for one person may not work for another. They are all just protocols to be use for 30, 60, 90 days max. Then back on a clean whole food diet and an active lifestyle. We all need a reset every so often.
I went very low carb for a month and 3 of those days I was strict carnivore. I had my numbers dialed in with chronometer for slight weightloss but didn't lose much. My blood sugar improved big time and my skin cleared up. I jumped back on a medium amount of carbs and ate the same amount of calories and started losing weight.
Keto or low carb is not long term yes do it for 6 weeks for a a break or something but you can check most carnivores or keto goon will always start eating carbs again even if it's just fruit, fruit is king!!
I think for the average office worker, or modern working man that does minimal exercise, carbs are the one to cut. The general calculus is, we want to avoid hunger as much as possible while keeping caloric intake at a deficit, and doing our best to maintain healthy blood fats, and vitmain levels etc. The caloric output of a office worker is effectively JUST base resting rate for 90% of the week besides maybe running to catch the train. The hunger stays about the same so you want something that keeps him full without dumping too many excess calories or killing him with fats. I don't think 'full' keto is the answer were 70% is fats, but perhaps 30% fats, 30-40% proteins is the way to go. The idea being you just eliminate 30% of your diet. You are eating 30% less than before, and THAT'S where the majority of the caloric deficit is going to come from. Now it's just a matter of finding things to put in your mouth so your stomach can prevent feeling hungry, that is calorically empty. Best things for that are like, lettuce n tomatoes and rabbit food. That's what I think worked for me. 30-40% protein, 30-40% fats. The rest of it if im still hungry i will chew lettuce, tomatoes, drink water, tea, maybe a few nuts as snacks. Flabby to 6 pack in 3 months. While going on a 30 minute run every 3 days. But even without the run I'd say it's an easily maintainable diet that doesnt mess up your body, but does let you lose weight and shred.
Why do we always talk about equating calories on low carb bs low fat? The question should be if you limit one, do you naturally lower your caloric intake. If you eliminate carbs, that generally means eliminating junk food, and naturally reducing caloric intake.
Great video as always. Small correction - erythrocytes are indeed obligate glucose users, CNS isn't. But the main message is correct - we don't need carbs in general. Though we do need them for intense bouts of anaerobic exercise.
A few days LOL! Everyone who's been on a long term carnivore diet says that they experienced the same thing the first week or two. After that your energy increases and sugar spikes go away. It takes 1 to 3 months on the diet to even get fully "fat adapted". You can't judge ANY diet on just a few days.
Excellent video. The more natural carbs I add to my diet (Kale, Red Potatoes, Spinach, Carrots, Kamut, Oatgroats, etc), the better I perform, the better and leaner I look. I thought MMA, being the newer sport, would take on more updated and improved diet and training regimes from what most of us did as amateur wrestlers and boxers. But NOPE, from what I see, most MMA guys have inherited and incorporated some of the most outdated hokum when it comes to diet and training methods. It's like, they've gone back to the year 1909, and are taking their training and diet cues, there.
@@elduderino1329 Donuts, cookies, chips, sugary cereals, candy, soda, etc. Foods/carbs that have been stripped of their natural bulk and fiber, which has then been replaced, in most cases, with refined simple sugars. Most natural whole foods/carbs are long chain (complex), and bulk and fiber is left intact. Many of these types of foods are also water dense, which makes them even more filling, along with their relatively high weight and fiber content, and low calorie content.
@@westfieldartworks8188 Just to clarify. Refined or not, simple or complex, low glycemic or high etc. every type of carbohydrate is natural. The refined table sugar is as natural as the slow-digesting resistant starch in lentil therefore saying "natural" carbs is like saying "wet" water.
@@elduderino1329 I'm speaking of carbs closer to their natural state, as in Whole carbs vs Refined carbs. Refined carbs having more processing and much of their natural bulk and fiber manually removed, and with that, their natural nutritional content diminished.
@@elduderino1329good point on this. Honestly i’m not 100% sure if every single type of carbohydrate is “natural” (meaning that I do think some forms of carbs are “artificial” in that they’re created in a lab), but here’s the distinction we really need to make: When people are talking about different “types of carbs”, really what they’re referring to is different SOURCES of carbs. The glucose & fructose molecules from a donut are fundamentally identical to those from a potato or banana. The difference is everything ELSE that comes along with eating that carbohydrate-containing food (i.e. presence/absence of water, fiber, vitamins, minerals, etc.).
He probably fundamentally understands calories in vs calories out. He was perhaps just giving an idea for those who struggle to lose weight, by eliminating a major junk calorie food source for a lot of (especially) overweight ppl.
I want to have as optimal performance and recovery as possible . I was on an animal based diet with 150 g of carbs for ages . Workouts sucked I am now at 400+ carbs and destroying shit love it , lean mean machine
Studies also show that carb/glucose stores deplete very quickly and will not last in most cases the durtion of a fight unless you're going to eat carbs during the event. Those of course can not be digested in this scenario.
I think there is data showing once fat adoated a while on low carb the body can refuel its glycogen stores. Also Tibet yak butter tea is traditional consumed in Tibet. So you gotta be careful about saying it's dumb
I've been running my ultra distances with no food, always afraid of no being capable of refueling rhe glycogen. But it's not importantbecouse you dont't need it to run, it's just for the brain. Once fat adapted, I run 335km in 72hs, with just 2 burgers and 2 eggs. My muscles clearly don't use glycogen to run, they use fat. Never felt better in my ultras The key is that: fat adaptation
I'll be honest if I ditch bread, cereal and pasta I look and feel way better day to day ... BUT my performance in any combat sports / HIIT activity goes to crap and tbh I just enjoy bread, pasta etc...
It takes months to become adapted to using fat as your main fuel source so it is no surprise that your performance will suffer in that adjustment phase.
I am a big Michael Chandler fan but but I don't think I would be taking nutritional advice from him. I work out daily and I'm definitely a fan of the healthy carbs!
Dolce was the man in nutrition at one point. In my opinion he still is. Even Dolce and Norton have had a difference of opinion. It certainly is a time of nutritional confusion. I'll eliminate all the confusion. When you're sedentary, eat less carbs. If you're overweight, eat less carbs. If you're a scrawny bastard, eat more carbs. If you're a marathon runner, eat more carbs. But eat real food. Plain and simple. We don't need a PhD to know this. Sometimes I wonder about these studies. That is how we got tricked into the whole "low fat" nonsense back in the day. Common sense is all we can trust these days.
Lets be specific. The wheat sold in the USA is considered ILLEGAL in other countries. Your flour based carbohydrates here in the USA is the issue and thats why carbohydrates in the USA are cancer.
Although you don't have issue with any particular diet as long as it's sustainable and the calories consumed keep you in a healthy weight range , I would love to get your evidence based feedback on the healthiest diet. For example a high carb diet low fat diet may be deficient in fat soluble vitamins and spike insulin more than a balanced diet or a low carb higher fat diet. More prone to diabetes or issues relating to vitamin deficiencies from fat (A, D, E, K). Yes they all are acceptable if kept within optimum calorie range to meet one goal of weight control , but surely they are not equal when it comes to the best nutrition. I would love to clarify your position around the best nutritional diet and then we only need to consider calories for optimal health. Thank you.
Perhaps the healthiest diet will somewhat vary from person to person? I've focused a lot on diet and health for a long time, and for me, what I've found via a lot of experimentation, listening to my body, research, etc is largely a whole foods diet that is high'ish in non starchy veggies, high'ish in select legumes (like lentils), moderate in select carbs (like whole potatoes, sweet potatoes, quinoa, and a little brown rice), moderate in proteins (primarily select fish, org/low to no fat yogurt, pea concentrates), lowish in sweet fruits but moderate in less and low sugar fruits (avocado etc), and low in junk foods, refined foods, etc. The diet is pretty good all in all. But I need to work on exercise more.
Love Carbohydrates. Clean burning fuel 🔥 anti stress effect, less essential when inactive, more essential when highly active, working out etc...social / Life stress, financial, relationship, anxiety, stress etc Carbohydrates will bring comfort...a healthy approach is required....Carbohydrates, protein, fat are neither good nor bad 😊 ... genetics play a part too...for me i function best on a higher Carbohydrates diet , from real whole foods of course...😊
soo if ur daily life and workout only on easy effort u dont need carbs but if u wanna do high intensity (anaerobic) exercise you need carbs for fuel otherwise u will bonk or even collaps LOL
My problem is I can’t eat chicken and rice. What else can I eat that’s not pumped with chemicals to get 300g of protein a day? Eating carnivore may help me with that. Eating 2-3 lbs of meat a day will give me that and I don’t have to add tons of sauces and whatnot. Eating chicken and rice I just can’t go past a 2-3 days I’m going try this for 30 days and see wh re imbayb
Okay but Layne how about this: You spoke about those who are highly active like professional athletes and carbs… But what about those who are sedentary or LOW in physical activity? 🤔 I reckon that carbs are needed LESS if you are sitting around all day 🪑
GLUCONEOGENESIS - PROTEINS IF THE BODY APPARENTLY PREFERS KETONES AS THE FIRST ENERGY SUPPLIER, WHY DOES IT THEN CONVERT PROTEINS INTO GLUCOSE? Normally, it should convert proteins into ketones?
Firstly, I've never heard anyone say the body prefers Ketones. It's the keto deniers who in fact say the body prefers Glucose. Secondly, thank you for bringing the gluconeogenesis part into the picture. It is scientifically proven beyond doubt that the body can produce all the glucose it needs, you don't need carbs. You can get energy from fat even when training.
I've never heard about 50 grams of protein a day. I know that, as a 145 pound man, I probably consumed less than 40 grams of protein per day for about 20 years and did just fine. Great blood work, was able to hike, play tennis, run, lift weights, kickboxing, etc., so I'm not sure where a number like that even comes from. Protein is certainly over rated, as a macro nutrient.
those people who say they are on a ketogenic diet and say that's the way you need to eat, because you don't need carbs.but if they eat 1 piece of carb the body switch right back to carb burning, i have read. my question why is that. if you don't need carbs why would the body switch back?
because excess glucose is toxic to the cells and must be metabolized as fast as possible to avoid glycation damage to important cells, tissues, and organs.
Oddly Michael Chandler does eat carbs from his meal prep company he is sponsored by Mega Fit Foods. There are pics of him eating Sweet Potatoes, Rice, and etc... Not sure if he does some type of Carb Cycling
I think there's people who just eat mainly carbs, and if they "just stop eating carbs" then they naturally need to eat more protein and improve the composition of their overall diet in general. I also don't think that 90% of the population has the willpower to completely adhere to a zero carb diet, at least not for very long.
I always try to give a like only at the end of a video and if I actually liked it, rather than just liking it because I think the person has great content in general or w/e. But you almost got me there at the start haha. And in terms of the topic...yeah, totally fell for that stuff years ago. But eventually I learned that there is a difference between not needing something, just functioning/surviving and high performance or even just decent performance.
Some do need carbs. Without them (meat/greens keto and later carnivore) got me free testosterone of 3.9 pg/mL which would be dangerous for a 100 year old woman. Adding back carbs brought it back up to reasonable level.
It is simple really. Eat an adequate amount of high quality animal protein and fat in one meal a day to complete satiety and limit carbohydrates and fiber as much as possible. Also, always make changes to your diet slowly and gradually.
@@BloodGangBrazy Hmmm, not a one of the 5 Blue Zone populations have a diet high in animal protein or fat. All of them are in between the very low to low-moderate in that area. One group, the 9, 000 or so community of Seventh Day Adventists of Loma Linda, CA are primarily vegetarians (very small smattering of pescetarians among them), and many researchers consider them to be the "cream of the crop" among these 5 groups as far as overall longevity, degree of healthy, and lack of chronic disease. How can this possibly be if a diet high in animal protein and fat was optimal? Shouldn't these populations have lower length and quality of life by the above reasoning?
I started lifting yesterday. Today, I had the same breakfast I would have normally had every other day. But since I started lifting yesterday, my body was super hungry and I was feeling super weak. It felt like when i had low blood sugar. Dry sweats and fatigue. I didn't feel better until i ate like twice the normal amount of carbs I usually ate during breakfast. I had two tablespoon of Greek yogurt, blue berries and raspberries and granola too so perhaps that helped
Perhaps one use case for a no carb diet would be if you need to completely cut out all carb-rich foods to get to your desired energy deficit and your protein and fats are already at minimum intake, but yeah, otherwise carb it up BABYYYYY
Wrong - about the 120 grams of glucose made by the body each day (120 x 4 = 480 calories). People who fast for 24 hours still have full glycogen stores (about 2,000 calories). Why ? Because we make any amount of glycogen we need for ATP production from the Krebs cycle. Where is the science about the number being 120 grams ?.
I could see abstaining from carbs weeks before a fight could kick start your response to carbs a few days before a fight like weight gain and more energy from the carbs.
You keep saying low carb, but it’s the no carb that really has the consistent results (Carnivore). As for the anaerobic part, body adaptation over time would likely play a part. Hence why Shawn Baker still breaks world records in his age class with a highly anaerobic activity (rowing under a minute…row sprinting). There are now 3 of the top 10 in the world in his age group that choose a carnivore diet. Low carb does not always mean low enough to be ketogenic. Studies that just say “low carb”, but do not say how many carbs are not very useful as one of the benefits of the ketogenic diet is near constant usage of fat for fuel (from you or your food). Someone could just be reducing carbs, but not to the point of being ketogenic and they may have a reduced metabolic rate due to their current physiology (carb burning mode) being too energy deficient.
Carbs are not the enemy. Its the amount people eat weather that be carbs , fats, protein etc. If you take Asian people and look at what they eat generally. It's mainly rice with fish pork chicken and vegetables they generally are not over weight. Yet if you taken the western diet with its larger portion sizes a lot more processed foods you do see more obese people. Despite the fact a lot of people are eating less carbs than people in Asian countries
I'd like to see a similar video regarding blood work. The only thing covered here is all different diets result in weight loss This is not disputed nor is it interesting nor is anyone learning anything from this notion being repeated ad nauseam on this channel. I'd like to see the differences in blood work between the different diets that result in weight loss...since at the risk if repeating myself... THEY ALL RESULT IN WEIGHT LOSS.
Carnivore and keto diets are less inflammatory and less addictive and the average person who's a non-athlete would be better served eating these low to no carb diets. Most people are addicted to carbs and trying to navigate through counting carb calories is overwhelming to most and doesn't address the addiction aspect. It's very easy to rationalize eating shit food when you're eating a carb rich diet and It's virtually impossible to over eat on a carnivore or ketogenic diet because the hormones, leptin and ghrelin are doing their job whereas on a carb rich diet (especially refined carbs) they're all outta wack. Now if you're one of those highly disciplined and non-addicted to carb people then by all means, have at it with a higher carb diet, but that ain't most of us.
I can't do low carb diets, they make me feel like crap. If you can do them, awesome, I'm glad that works for you, but all these people making blanket recommendations that everyone should be on keto, carnivore, atkins, or whatever low carb diet, they're misguided. They found something that works for them, and assume it will work for every one else. It does not.
I think the title of this video doesn’t paint the whole picture. Carb intake depends on someone’s ability to handle carbs, which is roughly about 25% of the population. Someone who isn’t carb tolerant can eventually have carbs once they become lean enough. According to Charles Poliquin, carbs are earned. They are not the demon the world has made them out to be.
carbohydrates can have very damaging effects at the cellular level. Just because you are lean does not mean that you are healthy or not causing unnecessary harm to yourself.
@@BloodGangBrazy how can carbohydrates be damaging to someone who is lean ? And when I say lean, I’m referring to a low body fat percentage, not skinny fat.
@@massimo7219 You can be healthy and eat carbs but they do have the potential to cause unnecessary damage to cells, tissues, and organs. I take it you didn't read the article I posted. Were there too many big words or were you afraid of having your addiction to carbohydrates challenged?
I make decent money but man....how many people can afford to eat all of their calories in high quality protein? I think I'll keep my fruit, vegetables, beans, and grains. I'm a little woman but I eat like a small lumberjack 💪💪
This is a point I feel like gets missed a lot in this debate. Carbs are cheap. Even the price of eggs are high which used to be a go to cheap source of protein.
@@arihaviv8510 Any way you slice it, you still have to run a deficit to burn body fat. I tried carnivore after I made that comment and got chonky. Back to my tried and true high protein, low fat, whole foods plan. Leaning out nicely on a budget.
i experienced severe muscle recovery problems (1 week sore after 2 sets of pushups) after doing keto for a few months. couldnt do any training or sport anymore because of fatigue and lactic burning in the muscle. now i introduced carbs (potatoe and fruit) back in my diet. getting a bit better but still not normals. any recommandations?
You get sore only after 2 sets of pushups lol, you need to workout more like everyday, soreness isn’t a sign of a bad diet it’s because your body isn’t use to it. Plus I eat no carbs and still can workout very hard.
Ok, i have a huge problem with what Layne is saying... ALL he is ever talking about is proactive dieting... EAT this much, count kcal,... if you follow ACTIVELY of how much you eat, ur gonna be fine... That model doesnt adress satiety... this model is the reason why 80% people gain weight back and overeat again... if you eliminate carbs, you will get there PASSVILY... huge difference!!!
So, we need fats and protein but not carbs. 🤔 Interesting, so say you rely on your body to manufacture carbs for a long period. Wouldn't it become better at it? Closing the vO2 exercise gap? Either more efficiently converting fat to atp or creating more carbs?
I eat carbs, a lot of protein and also some fat. I am in calorie deficit so I do loose weight and just a little muscle (almost none) because I lift weights and add some cardio. Just like you said. 😊
The body needs to be adapted to the carnivore/low carb eating style. How many people are allowing the necessary time for this to happen? There are carnivore marathon runners who don't need carbs during the race, because they are adapted.
I was unable to find if Layne has talked about how soon after a workout you should be eating or getting any kind of nutrition in. Can anyone point me to a right direction if he has and if not, Layne could you include this subject in a future video?
These 3 Things cannot be made by the Body you need to Get them from Food. 1) Omega 3 and Omega 6 Fatty Acids which are Essential Fats. 2) 8 Amino Acids which are Essential Proteins. 3) Dietary Fibers for Gut which are Essential Carbohydrates.
I used to box when I was younger and fighting is a lot of mini sprints in a round, and barley a jog lol. Jogging never really gave me cardio like sparing and sprinting did for fighting.
Layne, can't you get the ATP energy you need from gluconeogenesis? Also, if you adequate amount of creatine could this give you an adequate amount of ATP energy on a low carb approach? I've asked many physiologist and they couldn't tell me.
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I get my leanest by increasing carbs. It allows me to plow through cardio. I've found cutting out carbs just gives a temporary water weight loss. Which I think many people mistake for a fat burning effect.
Low carb diet worked for many and me included. And it is sustainable. It may not be everyone, sure. Some prefer to exercise more via increasing (maybe slightly) carb...that works too, it's not an either or thingy. Actually, they both helped me.
@@leo35577 sure, everyone is different. I personally felt like shit on keto.
@@leo35577 I'm curious... What do you mean by lean year round exactly? With strength and stamina, how (and what) do you measure? If you are not on keto and eat zero carb... What's your macros like? And
what exercise do you engage in... If you don't mind me asking?
Oh boy I must have had lost 100 pounds of water weight on keto then. Not fat just water😅
Exactly
When I first started seeing Laynes videos... I wasn't crazy about him. Now I pretty much go straight to him for any nutrion questions I'm pondering. This guy knows his stuff and spreads absolutely unbiased, fact based content. Thanks for all the help in helping me in my journey to my ideal body composition.
same. but he had me at "human randomized control trials" lol
@@DaniS398 Which just means that he won't get reality, just an abstraction that he will project on people, get a slice of the population and then moralize the other for not "getting it". Dude, those technicians are so dumb and stupid that you can't make them realize a simple thing as personal variability.
Nothing wrong with sharing an opinion but what makes it tough is when people believe whatever comes out of their mouth because of high status/fame. I followed locarb philosophy awhile back for a few seasons. I learned that my strength gets cut in half, muscles have no pop and look skinny. Plus its a disaster trying to manage that diet in a culture dominated with carbs. So no thanks, Id rather enjoy life with balance and flexibility to look, feel and express my best self!
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society" or something like that!
i experienced severe muscle recovery problems (1 week sore after 2 sets of pushups) after doing keto for a few months. couldnt do any training or sport anymore because of fatigue and lactic burning in the muscle. now i introduced carbs (potatoe and fruit) back in my diet. getting a bit better but still not normals. any recommandations?
@@Geheimeraccount yes leave keto for good and go for a"normal" lowcarb
I really can't recommend carbon diet Coach enough.
Have it now for 6 months and super happy with the app and the results
Dude been follow you forever I’m 59 and been training for awhile -40 years ! Last 4 years dialed in on diet and feel I’m ready to do a classic physique masters show . I’ve given myself lots of time -I’m currently 5’11 194 lbs shows in 44 weeks - realistically 180lbs I would be peeled . Would your contest prep book work for me ? I can do this without a coach . Dedicated and been resilient as a fuck last few years . Bucket list goal - as I wasted my youth. Merry Christmas to you and family .
3:56 This is why Paul Salazar eats carbs now. He wanted to go climbing more regularly and didn’t have the energy to do so without carbs. The Army also studied keto decades ago, and chose not to promote it due to the effect on peoples’ ability to do hard physical work.
That's a bunch of bull crap
The military is socialism for American garbage food. What do you think is in MREs? We'd call it explosive constipation for a reason.
On combat patrols we'd eat the tuna and chicken and throw everything else away. It slowed you down made you sick and made you shjt your pants while tearing your anus.
But by all means. Promote that healthy Army diet.
My problem with carbs is once I start eating some I can't resist pigging out on more. It creates unstoppable cravings lol. This is my biggest reason for staying very low carb.
same for me. It creates late evening snacks, butchering a whole pack of chips or simply wandering around the kitchen for some carbs to eat. Really hard to resist.
Yep
How tf do you "pig out" on carbs? Carbs are in every food.
Omfg 🤦♂️. Carbs aren't to blame that's your fault for not knowing the difference between carbs.
@@Anthony-dy5cq ohh my friend Anthony.... you bring me the Doritos and the Cheetos and the Tim's Cascade style jalapeno chips and I'll be glad to show you how tf I can pig out on carbs. Guaranteed 😊
“Which is why he might gas out in his fights” 😂 Dang shots fired
I think the point is eating carbs, especially processed lends itself to overeating. Going low carb means having whole foods and the tendency to overeat diminishes and so your caloric intake is lower. Much easier to lose weight.
Right… nowadays everything is social media fodder… just for views n followers. This guy Layne… when he goes on other interviews… he speaks eloquently n quite reserved… in his own channel he talks like coach greg…
Agreed
yup...@@kostar500
I was one of healthy eating guy without eating junk food. But the doctor told me I am pre-diabetic. Keto helped me free from diabetes so in conclusion, healthy carbs are illusionary.
Isn‘t gluconeogenesis the proof that carbs are essential ? Carbs are that important and supply needs to be steady and this should be the reason why the body has an own process to produce them ?
No, excess glucose is toxic and inflammatory to cells, tissues, and organs. Since the body produces all of the glucose we need, consuming carbohydrates can cause unnecessary glycation damage.
@@BloodGangBrazy Then by your reasoning cholesterol should also be strictly limited because our bodies produce all the cholesterol it needs as well .but something tells me you dont feel that way about cholesterol...
@Nelson Hoffman cholesterol is not toxic to our cells, tissues, and organs. Glucose is.
@@nelsonhoffman5922the amount of dietary cholesterol that the body absorbs is miniscule. Dietary cholesterol is also not toxic. Glucose on the other hand is used up by the body in its entirety.
Low fat diets cause insulin resistance, and low protein diets cause sarcopenia , low carb diets don’t cause any of these problems , so obviously if you’re reducing calories carbs are the best macro nutrient to reduce.
Low fat causes diabetes? Where did you hear that? Serious question.
Just follow people's confession. Medical institutions spit out all the bullshit so just listen what people testify.
@@Leopold---1320 probably because low fat diet will lead to higher carbohydrate intake which is what makes you diabetic.
No sense that low fat would cause diabetes.
@@Aainaizunzub I'm pretty sure carbs don't cause diabetes. The whole insulin spike theory is garbage.
Excess PUFA causes insulin resistance. It coats the cells and makes it impossible to process regular sugar.
carbs are not the enemy. misinformation is the enemy.
Usually people who are addicted to carbs say that
@@MrWingiii and usually people who listen to quacks say that
@@MrWingiii What a stupid thing to say!
@@MrWingiii ….people who are addicted to protein say that!😂
@@rachellelewis9389 protein while possibly contributing to dopamine production does not cause a dopamine response regarding a reward system…carbs do…hence addiction
I think if you are not counting calories then cutting carbs might work better as the fat makes you feel fuller.
As i said “I think” as i have never cut carbs myself, I prefer to count calories and protein and let the other macros be what ever they are 😀
Cutting out carbs is a tool that makes it very easy to eat low calorie and high protein. When I ate keto I got VERY lean while maintaining a lot of strength. However I did so by eating a couple dextrose pills before/during my weight training sessions.
Now that I eat a high carb diet my cardio and explosiveness and recovery are better and digestion is great but it’s very difficult to eat at maintenance without counting calories. Carbs increase appetite.
calories are heat, how do you count heat?
@@elzee4253really ?
I always thought a calorie was a unit of measurement that determined how much energy or (heat) is contained in something.
So in answer to your question I count the units of measurement assigned to the food I eat.
But hey feel free to correct me if you know better, as I get the feeling you may want to….
@mas-udal-hassan9277 how so ?
Thats like saying having a budget is a dumb idea when it comes to saving money.
It may not work best for you but it will certainly work for most people and is definitely not dumb
@mas-udal-hassan9277 you saying that is... dumb.
Tbh.. I notice the difference in my performance when I don’t eat carbs. BUT.. unfortunately the disease I have makes it so that carbs(along with other things) cause inflammation in my body and my body to attack my joints soooo I guess it’s either be weak or be in pain.
Problem is many people don't care about truth. As long as they feel good about themselves
LOL @ "Maybe that's why he tends to gas in his fights". Ouch man.
The term "need" is pretty relative to the subject being discussed. From a nutrition physiology standpoint, the only things we "need" for survival are Essential Amino Acids, Essential Fatty Acids, vitamins, and minerals.
From a health or performance standpoint, whether you "need" carbs is more subjective. There are several factors that need to be considered; genetics, psychological, goals, etc.
At the end of the day, it comes down to Biochemical Individuality. The enzymatic function/profile of an individual will determine whether it's healthy or not for them to eat any particular diet. We have proteases which help us to digest proteins, amylases which help us to digest carbohydrate, and lipases which help us to digest fats. If someone isn't producing an adequate amount of amylases and a sufficient amount of proteases and lipases, then a high carb diet would not be good for that individual and something like a high protein or high fat diet would be great for them.
Likewise, if an individual produces an adequate amount of amylases and an insufficient amount of proteases and lipases, than a high protein and high fat diet would not be beneficial for that individual and they would benefit from adding more carbohydrates.
how do you know which one you are?
probably why i blow up on carbs and am hungry all the time but on a meat diet i dont even think about food barely eat once a day maybe twice
Except the body is pretty good at adapting to whatever ratio of carbs/protein/fats, so your enzymatic function is not set in stone.
@@noelblanco Or ... it could be because a meat diet is so depressingly boring you actually don't WANT to eat anymore.
@@altaisrs2857 No, if you eat an adequate amount of animal protein and fat then it is uncomfortable to overeat. If your life is so "depressingly boring" that you need to eat unnecessary, toxic, and inflammatory plant foods then you maybe should consider volunteer work or some other hobby for pleasure.
I like that "you also only need50g of proteins per day" counter argument
Layne, you will probably will not reply but I would be really happy if you could review the huge study that showed that the more people ate carbs the more likely they where to develop alzhimer.
Check out Dr. Georgia Ede. Her work in this area is amazing. Almost all things previously thought of as mental health/brain issues are actually metabolic.
The "no essential carbohydrate" concept, takes a truth, we don't need to consume exogenous glucose to stay alive, and then mistakenly thinks that means "optimal". Love, laughter, friendship, art and music aren't "essential" either. You won't die without them. But to live without them would be considered suboptimal. You would not be living your best life, physically and emotionally, if you were isolated from humanity. Reducing all of life to what is "essential" to literally just stay alive is not an impressive list - basically just food and water. I think we all strive for more than just being technically alive.
Well, isolating yourself from humanity is the main ingredient of depression which does kill people. Minor nitpick :P
That is a mischaracterization of the actual argument which is that excess carbohydrates are damaging to health and should therefore be avoided.
@@BloodGangBrazy This holds true for fat as well. In fact, overfeeding saturated fat causes fatty liver disease quicker and at a more serverse level than overfeeding fructose. Keto folks conveniently ignore this reality because it blows up their dogma and gets to the real problem - chronic overconsumption of energy macros.
@@claybutler Obviously, too much of anything can become pathological. That is not an argument for why anyone should eat carbohydrates. There is no evidence that metabolically healthy people would benefit from eating carbs over a ketogenic diet.
@@BloodGangBrazy It's not a very good argument though is it, as Clay Butler points out it goes for fat as well, but also of course for protein.
The key problem is that you use the word "excess" which already implies a negative. It doesn't really matter what follows.
The problem occurs that if the argument is used the implication is that what follows is the problem, rather than a far more general excess such as which is the case with food consumption. So given that people knowingly but needlessly and incorrectly emphasise an excess of carbohydrates, it's not a mischaracterization of the argument at all.
One's diet depends on one's goals and lifestyle. If one wants to weight train one needs carbs.
So, why do we continue to take scientific nutrition/health advice from people that get punched in the head for a living? The same goes for entertainers, other athletes, and anyone who is selling you a product.
It baffles me sometimes when you get people who fight in the ufc where their diet and nutrition is so key not just for performance but also for making weight not have a clue about nutrition at all. Like you're a professional athlete and you have no idea about one of the key components of your sport. Not even the basics
I think these people also forget about the micronutrients that whole food carbs contain, which are beneficial for health.
Why are people so religious and dogmatic about food and diets? What works for one person may not work for another.
They are all just protocols to be use for 30, 60, 90 days max. Then back on a clean whole food diet and an active lifestyle. We all need a reset every so often.
I went very low carb for a month and 3 of those days I was strict carnivore. I had my numbers dialed in with chronometer for slight weightloss but didn't lose much. My blood sugar improved big time and my skin cleared up. I jumped back on a medium amount of carbs and ate the same amount of calories and started losing weight.
@jfromtexas7 Dr Atkins had it correct right from the start, leafy green vegetables are the only carbs your body needs!
You had more energy to move probably.
Keto or low carb is not long term yes do it for 6 weeks for a a break or something but you can check most carnivores or keto goon will always start eating carbs again even if it's just fruit, fruit is king!!
I think for the average office worker, or modern working man that does minimal exercise, carbs are the one to cut. The general calculus is, we want to avoid hunger as much as possible while keeping caloric intake at a deficit, and doing our best to maintain healthy blood fats, and vitmain levels etc.
The caloric output of a office worker is effectively JUST base resting rate for 90% of the week besides maybe running to catch the train. The hunger stays about the same so you want something that keeps him full without dumping too many excess calories or killing him with fats. I don't think 'full' keto is the answer were 70% is fats, but perhaps 30% fats, 30-40% proteins is the way to go.
The idea being you just eliminate 30% of your diet. You are eating 30% less than before, and THAT'S where the majority of the caloric deficit is going to come from. Now it's just a matter of finding things to put in your mouth so your stomach can prevent feeling hungry, that is calorically empty. Best things for that are like, lettuce n tomatoes and rabbit food.
That's what I think worked for me. 30-40% protein, 30-40% fats. The rest of it if im still hungry i will chew lettuce, tomatoes, drink water, tea, maybe a few nuts as snacks.
Flabby to 6 pack in 3 months. While going on a 30 minute run every 3 days. But even without the run I'd say it's an easily maintainable diet that doesnt mess up your body, but does let you lose weight and shred.
Why do we always talk about equating calories on low carb bs low fat? The question should be if you limit one, do you naturally lower your caloric intake. If you eliminate carbs, that generally means eliminating junk food, and naturally reducing caloric intake.
Cyclists and runners are now consuming 120g of CHO/hour. And it is not only for fueling, but also for preventing fatigue and muscle damage.
Great video as always. Small correction - erythrocytes are indeed obligate glucose users, CNS isn't. But the main message is correct - we don't need carbs in general. Though we do need them for intense bouts of anaerobic exercise.
Exactly
@Dr Sam's Health Wouldnt green leafy vegetables give enough starch for the Glucose?
I know Beetroot would for sure but they are also high in sugar.
Tried "carnivore" for a few days and felt like garbage. Workouts were terrible.
A few days LOL! Everyone who's been on a long term carnivore diet says that they experienced the same thing the first week or two. After that your energy increases and sugar spikes go away. It takes 1 to 3 months on the diet to even get fully "fat adapted". You can't judge ANY diet on just a few days.
@@cableken lol at "fat adapted"
sure thing bro
@@cablekenketo is dead, fruit and soughdough is king
Excellent video. The more natural carbs I add to my diet (Kale, Red Potatoes, Spinach, Carrots, Kamut, Oatgroats, etc), the better I perform, the better and leaner I look. I thought MMA, being the newer sport, would take on more updated and improved diet and training regimes from what most of us did as amateur wrestlers and boxers. But NOPE, from what I see, most MMA guys have inherited and incorporated some of the most outdated hokum when it comes to diet and training methods. It's like, they've gone back to the year 1909, and are taking their training and diet cues, there.
Are there unnatural carbs? I wasn't aware :)
@@elduderino1329 Donuts, cookies, chips, sugary cereals, candy, soda, etc. Foods/carbs that have been stripped of their natural bulk and fiber, which has then been replaced, in most cases, with refined simple sugars. Most natural whole foods/carbs are long chain (complex), and bulk and fiber is left intact. Many of these types of foods are also water dense, which makes them even more filling, along with their relatively high weight and fiber content, and low calorie content.
@@westfieldartworks8188 Just to clarify. Refined or not, simple or complex, low glycemic or high etc. every type of carbohydrate is natural. The refined table sugar is as natural as the slow-digesting resistant starch in lentil therefore saying "natural" carbs is like saying "wet" water.
@@elduderino1329 I'm speaking of carbs closer to their natural state, as in Whole carbs vs Refined carbs. Refined carbs having more processing and much of their natural bulk and fiber manually removed, and with that, their natural nutritional content diminished.
@@elduderino1329good point on this. Honestly i’m not 100% sure if every single type of carbohydrate is “natural” (meaning that I do think some forms of carbs are “artificial” in that they’re created in a lab), but here’s the distinction we really need to make:
When people are talking about different “types of carbs”, really what they’re referring to is different SOURCES of carbs. The glucose & fructose molecules from a donut are fundamentally identical to those from a potato or banana. The difference is everything ELSE that comes along with eating that carbohydrate-containing food (i.e. presence/absence of water, fiber, vitamins, minerals, etc.).
He probably fundamentally understands calories in vs calories out. He was perhaps just giving an idea for those who struggle to lose weight, by eliminating a major junk calorie food source for a lot of (especially) overweight ppl.
He could have just said that then instead of the nonsense.
I want to have as optimal performance and recovery as possible . I was on an animal based diet with 150 g of carbs for ages . Workouts sucked I am now at 400+ carbs and destroying shit love it , lean mean machine
Studies also show that carb/glucose stores deplete very quickly and will not last in most cases the durtion of a fight unless you're going to eat carbs during the event. Those of course can not be digested in this scenario.
I think there is data showing once fat adoated a while on low carb the body can refuel its glycogen stores. Also Tibet yak butter tea is traditional consumed in Tibet. So you gotta be careful about saying it's dumb
I've been running my ultra distances with no food, always afraid of no being capable of refueling rhe glycogen. But it's not importantbecouse you dont't need it to run, it's just for the brain. Once fat adapted, I run 335km in 72hs, with just 2 burgers and 2 eggs. My muscles clearly don't use glycogen to run, they use fat. Never felt better in my ultras
The key is that: fat adaptation
I fucking love carbs
I'll be honest if I ditch bread, cereal and pasta I look and feel way better day to day ... BUT my performance in any combat sports / HIIT activity goes to crap and tbh I just enjoy bread, pasta etc...
It takes months to become adapted to using fat as your main fuel source so it is no surprise that your performance will suffer in that adjustment phase.
Great video Dr Layne Norton 💥. cheers from Canada 👋
I am a big Michael Chandler fan but but I don't think I would be taking nutritional advice from him. I work out daily and I'm definitely a fan of the healthy carbs!
You have seen Chandler right? he's shredded all the time
@@jackedbyjade oh yeah that's for sure but he does gas out later in the fight we've seen it!
@@jackedbyjade guaranteed he uses steroids.
quick way to nutrient deficiency
cutting out a literal macronutrient that your body *needs*
This video aids in my confusion on how UFC fighters don’t hire Biolayne, Stronger by Science or 3DMJ for their nutrition.
Dolce was the man in nutrition at one point. In my opinion he still is. Even Dolce and Norton have had a difference of opinion. It certainly is a time of nutritional confusion. I'll eliminate all the confusion. When you're sedentary, eat less carbs. If you're overweight, eat less carbs. If you're a scrawny bastard, eat more carbs. If you're a marathon runner, eat more carbs. But eat real food. Plain and simple. We don't need a PhD to know this. Sometimes I wonder about these studies. That is how we got tricked into the whole "low fat" nonsense back in the day. Common sense is all we can trust these days.
Sorry BioLame is a hack…
Lets be specific. The wheat sold in the USA is considered ILLEGAL in other countries. Your flour based carbohydrates here in the USA is the issue and thats why carbohydrates in the USA are cancer.
and how does removing carbs effect gut microbiota ? my guess is unfavorably
Animal-based diets have been shown to cause a proliferation of beneficial bacteria in the genus Bilophila. So no, I don't think it is that simple.
Although you don't have issue with any particular diet as long as it's sustainable and the calories consumed keep you in a healthy weight range , I would love to get your evidence based feedback on the healthiest diet. For example a high carb diet low fat diet may be deficient in fat soluble vitamins and spike insulin more than a balanced diet or a low carb higher fat diet. More prone to diabetes or issues relating to vitamin deficiencies from fat (A, D, E, K). Yes they all are acceptable if kept within optimum calorie range to meet one goal of weight control , but surely they are not equal when it comes to the best nutrition. I would love to clarify your position around the best nutritional diet and then we only need to consider calories for optimal health. Thank you.
Perhaps the healthiest diet will somewhat vary from person to person? I've focused a lot on diet and health for a long time, and for me, what I've found via a lot of experimentation, listening to my body, research, etc is largely a whole foods diet that is high'ish in non starchy veggies, high'ish in select legumes (like lentils), moderate in select carbs (like whole potatoes, sweet potatoes, quinoa, and a little brown rice), moderate in proteins (primarily select fish, org/low to no fat yogurt, pea concentrates), lowish in sweet fruits but moderate in less and low sugar fruits (avocado etc), and low in junk foods, refined foods, etc.
The diet is pretty good all in all. But I need to work on exercise more.
Healthiest diet of all studied so far is the Mediterranean diet. Easiest to do it long term as well.
The only bad thing with carbs is they are so damn tasty and easy to eat in abundance
They are also toxic and inflammatory in excess.
I have never found whole food carbs to be easy to over eat.
Carbs are in every food.
It's simple. Too cheap to produce and that cause many creativity are going into the market.
Incorrect. Meat for example.@@Anthony-dy5cq
Love Carbohydrates. Clean burning fuel 🔥 anti stress effect, less essential when inactive, more essential when highly active, working out etc...social / Life stress, financial, relationship, anxiety, stress etc Carbohydrates will bring comfort...a healthy approach is required....Carbohydrates, protein, fat are neither good nor bad 😊 ... genetics play a part too...for me i function best on a higher Carbohydrates diet , from real whole foods of course...😊
"i dont understand how this works"
Sums it up
soo if ur daily life and workout only on easy effort u dont need carbs
but if u wanna do high intensity (anaerobic) exercise you need carbs for fuel otherwise u will bonk or even collaps LOL
I agree. Sweet potatoes, meat, fruits, & veggies works for me.
My problem is I can’t eat chicken and rice. What else can I eat that’s not pumped with chemicals to get 300g of protein a day? Eating carnivore may help me with that. Eating 2-3 lbs of meat a day will give me that and I don’t have to add tons of sauces and whatnot. Eating chicken and rice I just can’t go past a 2-3 days I’m going try this for 30 days and see wh re imbayb
Layne keeping it real and sane, as usual 👌
Okay but Layne how about this:
You spoke about those who are highly active like professional athletes and carbs…
But what about those who are sedentary or LOW in physical activity? 🤔
I reckon that carbs are needed LESS if you are sitting around all day 🪑
Been eating chicken and vegetables fish veggies healthy fats etc haven't ate carbs I feel good just trying to eat healthy
You gotta find what work for you .. I use carbs around my workouts but mainly protein and fats during the day..
GLUCONEOGENESIS - PROTEINS
IF THE BODY APPARENTLY PREFERS KETONES AS THE FIRST ENERGY SUPPLIER, WHY DOES IT THEN CONVERT PROTEINS INTO GLUCOSE? Normally, it should convert proteins into ketones?
Firstly, I've never heard anyone say the body prefers Ketones. It's the keto deniers who in fact say the body prefers Glucose. Secondly, thank you for bringing the gluconeogenesis part into the picture. It is scientifically proven beyond doubt that the body can produce all the glucose it needs, you don't need carbs. You can get energy from fat even when training.
I've never heard about 50 grams of protein a day. I know that, as a 145 pound man, I probably consumed less than 40 grams of protein per day for about 20 years and did just fine. Great blood work, was able to hike, play tennis, run, lift weights, kickboxing, etc., so I'm not sure where a number like that even comes from. Protein is certainly over rated, as a macro nutrient.
those people who say they are on a ketogenic diet and say that's the way you need to eat, because you don't need carbs.but if they eat 1 piece of carb the body switch right back to carb burning, i have read. my question why is that. if you don't need carbs why would the body switch back?
because excess glucose is toxic to the cells and must be metabolized as fast as possible to avoid glycation damage to important cells, tissues, and organs.
@@BloodGangBrazy Nope, because carbs are the preferred food of the human body.
@@BloodGangBrazy so why does the body switch back to carb burining if it is so toxic
Oddly Michael Chandler does eat carbs from his meal prep company he is sponsored by Mega Fit Foods. There are pics of him eating Sweet Potatoes, Rice, and etc...
Not sure if he does some type of Carb Cycling
I think there's people who just eat mainly carbs, and if they "just stop eating carbs" then they naturally need to eat more protein and improve the composition of their overall diet in general. I also don't think that 90% of the population has the willpower to completely adhere to a zero carb diet, at least not for very long.
I always try to give a like only at the end of a video and if I actually liked it, rather than just liking it because I think the person has great content in general or w/e. But you almost got me there at the start haha.
And in terms of the topic...yeah, totally fell for that stuff years ago. But eventually I learned that there is a difference between not needing something, just functioning/surviving and high performance or even just decent performance.
Very true your last paragraph .
Some do need carbs. Without them (meat/greens keto and later carnivore) got me free testosterone of 3.9 pg/mL which would be dangerous for a 100 year old woman. Adding back carbs brought it back up to reasonable level.
I'm so sick of ever learning about dieting and never finding what works for me.
It is simple really. Eat an adequate amount of high quality animal protein and fat in one meal a day to complete satiety and limit carbohydrates and fiber as much as possible. Also, always make changes to your diet slowly and gradually.
@@BloodGangBrazy Hmmm, not a one of the 5 Blue Zone populations have a diet high in animal protein or fat. All of them are in between the very low to low-moderate in that area. One group, the 9, 000 or so community of Seventh Day Adventists of Loma Linda, CA are primarily vegetarians (very small smattering of pescetarians among them), and many researchers consider them to be the "cream of the crop" among these 5 groups as far as overall longevity, degree of healthy, and lack of chronic disease.
How can this possibly be if a diet high in animal protein and fat was optimal? Shouldn't these populations have lower length and quality of life by the above reasoning?
@@justinw1765 shorter length, not lower length, since you’re so excited to “correct” someone using a weird and creepy tone.
I started lifting yesterday. Today, I had the same breakfast I would have normally had every other day. But since I started lifting yesterday, my body was super hungry and I was feeling super weak. It felt like when i had low blood sugar. Dry sweats and fatigue. I didn't feel better until i ate like twice the normal amount of carbs I usually ate during breakfast. I had two tablespoon of Greek yogurt, blue berries and raspberries and granola too so perhaps that helped
Sugar glucose withdrawal
people always forget to mention that in order to lose weight while on any of these diets you have to exercise.
Perhaps one use case for a no carb diet would be if you need to completely cut out all carb-rich foods to get to your desired energy deficit and your protein and fats are already at minimum intake, but yeah, otherwise carb it up BABYYYYY
Wrong - about the 120 grams of glucose made by the body each day (120 x 4 = 480 calories). People who fast for 24 hours still have full glycogen stores (about 2,000 calories). Why ? Because we make any amount of glycogen we need for ATP production from the Krebs cycle. Where is the science about the number being 120 grams ?.
I could see abstaining from carbs weeks before a fight could kick start your response to carbs a few days before a fight like weight gain and more energy from the carbs.
calories are heat
People from the US tend to love to be on either one side or another, a reasonable middle ground seems not to be there for many people.
You keep saying low carb, but it’s the no carb that really has the consistent results (Carnivore). As for the anaerobic part, body adaptation over time would likely play a part. Hence why Shawn Baker still breaks world records in his age class with a highly anaerobic activity (rowing under a minute…row sprinting). There are now 3 of the top 10 in the world in his age group that choose a carnivore diet. Low carb does not always mean low enough to be ketogenic. Studies that just say “low carb”, but do not say how many carbs are not very useful as one of the benefits of the ketogenic diet is near constant usage of fat for fuel (from you or your food). Someone could just be reducing carbs, but not to the point of being ketogenic and they may have a reduced metabolic rate due to their current physiology (carb burning mode) being too energy deficient.
Carnivore isn't a "no carb diet" eggs, meat and etc especially liver has Thrace amounts of carbs
Carbs are not the enemy. Its the amount people eat weather that be carbs , fats, protein etc. If you take Asian people and look at what they eat generally. It's mainly rice with fish pork chicken and vegetables they generally are not over weight. Yet if you taken the western diet with its larger portion sizes a lot more processed foods you do see more obese people. Despite the fact a lot of people are eating less carbs than people in Asian countries
I'd like to see a similar video regarding blood work. The only thing covered here is all different diets result in weight loss This is not disputed nor is it interesting nor is anyone learning anything from this notion being repeated ad nauseam on this channel. I'd like to see the differences in blood work between the different diets that result in weight loss...since at the risk if repeating myself... THEY ALL RESULT IN WEIGHT LOSS.
Carnivore and keto diets are less inflammatory and less addictive and the average person who's a non-athlete would be better served eating these low to no carb diets. Most people are addicted to carbs and trying to navigate through counting carb calories is overwhelming to most and doesn't address the addiction aspect. It's very easy to rationalize eating shit food when you're eating a carb rich diet and It's virtually impossible to over eat on a carnivore or ketogenic diet because the hormones, leptin and ghrelin are doing their job whereas on a carb rich diet (especially refined carbs) they're all outta wack. Now if you're one of those highly disciplined and non-addicted to carb people then by all means, have at it with a higher carb diet, but that ain't most of us.
Aren't all vegetables and fruits carbs?
I can't do low carb diets, they make me feel like crap. If you can do them, awesome, I'm glad that works for you, but all these people making blanket recommendations that everyone should be on keto, carnivore, atkins, or whatever low carb diet, they're misguided. They found something that works for them, and assume it will work for every one else. It does not.
Bro! I saw Gaethje vs. Chandler live at MSG. It was seriously the most amazing MMA fight ever.
I think the title of this video doesn’t paint the whole picture. Carb intake depends on someone’s ability to handle carbs, which is roughly about 25% of the population. Someone who isn’t carb tolerant can eventually have carbs once they become lean enough. According to Charles Poliquin, carbs are earned. They are not the demon the world has made them out to be.
carbohydrates can have very damaging effects at the cellular level. Just because you are lean does not mean that you are healthy or not causing unnecessary harm to yourself.
@@BloodGangBrazy how can carbohydrates be damaging to someone who is lean ? And when I say lean, I’m referring to a low body fat percentage, not skinny fat.
@@massimo7219 One word: GLYCATION.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6147582/
@@BloodGangBrazy and to the millions of people from the healthiest cultures in the world that eat carbs, what do you say to them ?
@@massimo7219 You can be healthy and eat carbs but they do have the potential to cause unnecessary damage to cells, tissues, and organs. I take it you didn't read the article I posted. Were there too many big words or were you afraid of having your addiction to carbohydrates challenged?
I make decent money but man....how many people can afford to eat all of their calories in high quality protein? I think I'll keep my fruit, vegetables, beans, and grains. I'm a little woman but I eat like a small lumberjack 💪💪
This is a point I feel like gets missed a lot in this debate. Carbs are cheap. Even the price of eggs are high which used to be a go to cheap source of protein.
@@brandonevans4020 Absolutely. People making these Keto/Carnivore videos have the budget to back it up.
Well the protein is the same but they are running on fat instead of carbs
@@arihaviv8510 Any way you slice it, you still have to run a deficit to burn body fat. I tried carnivore after I made that comment and got chonky. Back to my tried and true high protein, low fat, whole foods plan. Leaning out nicely on a budget.
i experienced severe muscle recovery problems (1 week sore after 2 sets of pushups) after doing keto for a few months. couldnt do any training or sport anymore because of fatigue and lactic burning in the muscle. now i introduced carbs (potatoe and fruit) back in my diet. getting a bit better but still not normals. any recommandations?
You get sore only after 2 sets of pushups lol, you need to workout more like everyday, soreness isn’t a sign of a bad diet it’s because your body isn’t use to it. Plus I eat no carbs and still can workout very hard.
So, is a ketogenic diet suboptimal for the preservation of lean mass in a caloric deficit?
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Ok, i have a huge problem with what Layne is saying... ALL he is ever talking about is proactive dieting... EAT this much, count kcal,... if you follow ACTIVELY of how much you eat, ur gonna be fine... That model doesnt adress satiety... this model is the reason why 80% people gain weight back and overeat again... if you eliminate carbs, you will get there PASSVILY... huge difference!!!
When I cut carbs I don’t crave sweets that’s the only reason Ilike going low carb.
70 % of what you said was true. Good job.
I go without carbs for 6 days then cycle in nutritious carbs on day 7! Berries, nuts, lentil or chickpea pasta!
So, we need fats and protein but not carbs. 🤔 Interesting, so say you rely on your body to manufacture carbs for a long period. Wouldn't it become better at it? Closing the vO2 exercise gap? Either more efficiently converting fat to atp or creating more carbs?
Correct.
I eat carbs, a lot of protein and also some fat. I am in calorie deficit so I do loose weight and just a little muscle (almost none) because I lift weights and add some cardio. Just like you said. 😊
The body needs to be adapted to the carnivore/low carb eating style. How many people are allowing the necessary time for this to happen? There are carnivore marathon runners who don't need carbs during the race, because they are adapted.
The food pyramid is obsolete. The ‘plate’ has been used for quite some time now.
You dont need carbs
You don’t need air conditioning either. Get the point?
I can already hear Mr. Kiwi professor shouting “no it’s not Lame Norton. Carbs are absolutely contra-indicated” 😂
I was unable to find if Layne has talked about how soon after a workout you should be eating or getting any kind of nutrition in. Can anyone point me to a right direction if he has and if not, Layne could you include this subject in a future video?
It is indeed my mom's favorite show
I’ve tried every diet including carnivore and none worked …I’m trying now to just focus on protein prioritization
These 3 Things cannot be made by the Body you need to Get them from Food.
1) Omega 3 and Omega 6 Fatty Acids which are Essential Fats.
2) 8 Amino Acids which are Essential Proteins.
3) Dietary Fibers for Gut which are Essential Carbohydrates.
I used to box when I was younger and fighting is a lot of mini sprints in a round, and barley a jog lol. Jogging never really gave me cardio like sparing and sprinting did for fighting.
Nice hat. Vortex optics?!
Layne, can't you get the ATP energy you need from gluconeogenesis? Also, if you adequate amount of creatine could this give you an adequate amount of ATP energy on a low carb approach? I've asked many physiologist and they couldn't tell me.
Doesn't convert fast enough
depending on the individual...yes they do