Ryanair is notorious for their super hard landings. But there's actually a reason behind the infamous Ryanair smash-crash-landing! #shorts #airplane #ryanair
@@cheenis420 wow, you're quite the petulant child. You missed their point, and made up stuff to replace it. They never said the landing gear didn't come with the plane, they said they're paying for maintenance for the plane anyway, so mine as well use it by not bothering with being smooth.
Yep because fiction from tires and the runway slow down faster than just brakes. Plus the gear is much beefier. The P8 prefers a harder landing over a soft one. Saves on maintenance costs and reliability.
wich it may be true but in europe there is only one carrier with arrestor wires (the french mn charles de gaulle) and i suspect that most of those few rafale flying pilots will end up at air france and not ryanair
Ryanair pilot here. This is the first video I see that is pretty accurate. It says in our manuals to make a positive landing and not to hold off the nose wheel to make an overly smooth landing. The reason for this is as stated in the video. Furthermore, Stansted for example is our biggest base. Chances are that if you fly with Ryanair, you may have landed on Stansted (runway 22) or a similar airport which has an exit that saves a lot of taxi time but is very hard to make if we don't make a positive landing and use extra braking action. And last but not least: we are an airline that trains A LOT of pilots; especially at big bases such as Dublin, Stansted or Bergamo. This means that the first officer may still be in line training or just finished it and makes a bit of a harder landing every now and then. One of the reasons for this aside from a lack of experience is, that if you just started flying, the landing gear touches down sooner than you expect to as it's a bit 'lower' than what you are used to from the simulators. In my opinion the captains I've flown with are usually very good and their landings are as they should be as well. I'll be leaving the company this month, but I'm glad I did my training with them, as their training regime was mostly amazing.
it is a massive pain to change out landing gear. I rememberd a miscommunication incident at work almost resulted in this after an eval on a crack came bad
They don't change them more since they are made for it. All planes have a mandatory change age on the gear. Ryan air does that just as every other airline. They dont last longer or shorter then other airlines
@@larsmeijerink5471 Harder landings sure do make a difference. The brakes are very susceptible to hard and short braking, same goes for the tires. And hard landings overall can cause major damage to the exterior and skeleton of the plane. Even minor cracks might be huge problems, we have to do so much inspecting on the landing gear if a hard landing happends.
I was thinking this too, especially if they're at smaller airports they can't float as far before having to go around, which would cost a lot of time and fuel
It probably depends on whether they had a larger-than-expected head- or tail-wind. A pilot who's 15 minutes early prolly has more leeway in their approach.
@@lozoft9 There was one time my flight with ryanair was 2 and a bit hours delayed but somehow arrive only like 15 minutes after the ETA. Those pilots are insane.
I remember hearing somewhere that Ryanair has a big rotation in pilots as many new pilots go to ryanair and then after getting experience move to something like Lufthansa, British Airways, etc.
ryanair (specifically the polish branch of ryanair) pays a good amount of money to new pilots and is used to gain hours and experience so said pilot can then apply for bigger airlines like BA and fly long haul
I flew to Madeira on Ryanair. Madeira airport is notorious for its difficult approach and landings, I was kinda scared but to my surprise it was one of the smoothest landings I've ever experienced. I'll never forget that, and I even complimented the captain afterward, I told him "that was one of the best landings I've ever experienced". He seemed pleased
I usually compliment the crew in my way out of the plane and is such a joy seeing their eyes glowing and smiling 😊 not many people do that nowadays... And I like my pilots to be cocky and positive. If that makes their egos grow bigger the better. Those pilots need tons of confidence on what they are doing!
I have a bit to add as a former airport ground handler at a major Ryanair base... The turnaround time is a bit of a misnomer, as this is counted from the plane arriving on stand (the timer starts as soon as it has stopped) until pushback (the timer stops as soon as the plane starts moving). Any time spent taxiing is a part of the block time (the amount of time the plane is spending off the chocks). At some of their more complicated airports (Dublin, Copenhagen-Kastrup, Barcelona), planes can end up taxiing for upwards of 10-15 minutes.
Same like in CGK. If the gate is at Terminal 2 but the runway to be used is 7R/25L, you're in for a loooooooong taxiing. Same if your gate is at Terminal 1 and the runway is 6/24
I generally believe you more with airplanes than other channels, but in the past I've heard that smooth landings use more fuel and they want to save on money.
@KSP_Aviation firmer landings generally slow the plane down quicker, minimises the risk of go around and like mentioned in the vid helps when landing at shorter runways which ryanair tends to do as a budget airline flying to many smaller alternative airports
I was a pallet rider all the time in the army (a soldier that rides on the channel air missions (military flights) when they transport your units gear and equipment to a deployment or back. After doing that a few times where the pilots slam the plane onto the runway because it’s only the pilot, copilot aircrew and you and maybe 1-2 other pallet riders, you get use to hard landings pretty fast. My first one I thought we crashed we hit so hard. I asked the Captain afterwards what happened and he had no idea what I was talking about.
@@theroyalcam 737 MAX 8 and above are the unsafe ones. Too bad really, because apparently the CEO who was fired is not the one responsible for all the deaths. It's the previous CEO who was responsible, and he gets away scott free.
I've been using Ryanair for flights back to and from Italy and also across Europe since 2003. I've never had a single 'hard landing', and only once did I experience delays and that was due to a bomb scare at luton airport. Love ryanair.
The 737 (plane that RYR uses) manual actually instruct for "positive contact" due to things like the spoilers not deploying automatically etc. Centreline and Touchdown zone matters more.
My dad is an airline pilot. To add some context in the actual training for flying the pilots are trained to ‘firmly plant’ the aircraft onto the runway to wood any risks of things that could go wrong. Hope this helps.
Take it from a former Ryanair pilot - that is BOLLOCKS! The inexperience on the flight deck is alarming and when fuel regulations were changed a few years ago in Europe, there were 3 emergency calls on the first day because Ryanair sucked out every drop of fuel they were now legally allowed to. I applaud the owner, despise the company!
Something this video forgets to mention is that pilots are trained to land rough when operating from short fields. The reasoning being it's better to hit your aiming point (usually the 1000FT markers) than overrun a runway. Some POHs also say to apply "heavy braking" during short field landings for fairly self explanatory reasons.
I'm from Argentina, and "Aeroparque Jorge Newbery" is one of the main Airports of the Capital City Buenos Aires. But it's a very short runway and every landing there is hard and with every single brake system (mechanical, aerodynamic... Throwing anchors through the windows..) is applied every single time. They are ones of the best landings I experience because the rush in adrenaline! And that's even better if it's a rainy and windy NIGHT! HAHAHAA
Don't forget the fact that a straight out of flight school cadet pilot can enter Ryanair. This means less overall experience and flight hours, which might result in some firm landings
1) Where else are pilots supposed to ge eyperience, when no one else hires them? 2) What you said kind of doesn't make sense, cause more experienced pilots know what's safer and cheaper (better).
@@Pomeranc470 answer to the first one: exactly, on Ryanair. It's on Ryanair that pilots get experience, but a quite good amount of them are haven't gained that experience. As for the second, I didn't understand what you meant. Can you please repeat?
I'm Irish so i fly with Ryanair 90% of the time. People often give out about them but they are dirt cheap. Not a comfortable flight at all especially if you are over 6ft like myself, but half the time its cheaper for me to fly to London or Edinburgh than it is for me to get the train to Dublin and back. They do sales constantly so I've gotten flights to London for €7, Edinburgh for €14, and Warsaw for €30, for Americans its pretty much the exact same in dollars. Ryanair don't do long haul flights, and they dont go to the biggest airports so you pay for what you get. But for a 40 minute to 2 hour flight for the price of a Big Mac meal, you can handle a bit of discomfort.
I’ve never heard of that myself, but it does indeed make complete sense, so I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s a factor Boeing took into consideration when defining their textbook 737 landing
@@izabela4405 reason for what? For the 737 to be hard to land? I’ve never heard that till RUclips. I used to fly the 737 and think it’s an easy airplane to land. I never heard another pilot say it’s hard to land. 🤷🏻♂️
In normal landing its almost impossible to do tail strike. Because Tail strike angle on 737 800 is arround 12 degrees and if you flare to 12 degrees during landing you will start climbing again and that means mandatory go arround anyway. Normally in 737 flaring arround 5 degrees does the job and sometimes even less. But if a windshear happens then there is a chance to tail strike on go arround since 737 is low to ground. Especially 900 version.
This is partly correct. Ryanair doesn’t train or ask its pilots to touch down hard to save money or time though. The real reasons are as follows: - As you mentioned, the 737 is not the easiest aircraft to land smoothly. Ryanair is a big feeder airline for new pilots entering the airline industry. Therefore their landings are still somewhat inconsistent. - Ryanair flies to many airports with shorter runways as you mentioned. These necessitate aiming for a firmer touchdown to avoid floating down the runway. That said, during any landing you would aim to avoid floating as you are aiming for a specific touchdown zone. - Ryanair pilots aren’t taught to touch down hard to save money / time like you state here. However the airline does prioritise efficiency which sometimes mean applying more brake pressure after touchdown to make an earlier runway exit. The general public tend to confuse this with a ‘rough landing’ as they happen in quick succession. Legacy airlines may prioritise passenger comfort over stopping performance.
Another point, and honestly the main reason many landing are harder than average, is because the pilots(i'm talking about the co-pilots, obviously, not the captains), don't have many hours clocked to begin with and are still somewhat learning.
@@Tayson888 I start out in the 737NG, 1500hrs in that before change to the A32F and soon the 330. Again, The 737 is a simple and straightforward type to operate, there are nothing especially difficult about that when compare to other type. The only not so easy part about it is when you want a butter landing due to it slightly higher Vapp
@@QuanNguyen-nc3gmagree, but the A32F and A330 are even "simpler" - but well, what does simple mean anyways, right? Each aircraft has its own challenges and then again, a lot is personal preference on what's "easier"/better to use and differs from person to person Ofc you cannot compare those planes to the MD11 lol, completely different generations of planes 😂 But the MD11 isn't That hard.. "Know what's even harder to fly? The space shuttle!" 😂
@@crateer Ya, the guy above mention that his "dad" say the 737 is not an easy aircraft to fly, I just disagree with that notion, compare to other type there nothing particular difficult about it operation. When I say simple and straightforward, I mean the aircraft is very simple in term of it operation and management, it do exactly what you tell it to do, during landing it a direct control input no nonsense involve mi cannot said the same about a A32F
The good landing isn't based on how smooth is it, it's based on where you touched down, usually pilot aims for touchdown zone mark, and, said in the video, smooth landing can result to a long landing, which isn't good especially on a shorter runway
It’s not , trust me , the company is really efficient and every kg of fuel counts. Most of Ryanair’s pilot are perfectly capable of a “soft landing”, the fact is … that’s not always the correct procedure. In many occasions the correct technique is the opposite one , like this video explains pretty well.
People get too comfortable with air travel and forget they're in a massive metal tube being propelled by big spinny turbines at 600mph at 37,000 feet. Arriving alive is good enough, any added comfort is a bonus.
A crash landing is the default... With that said most pilots don't learn the way older pilots did, ie, with a tail wheel. On a tail wheel you are stalling it into a 3 pointer at 5 foot above the ground and settling it down, least the ground loop monster find you.
for refrence the reason the landing gear is desinged to be firmly landed on is because too smoth a landing can cause in oscelations that cause cracking, like those from side loading.
Also forgot to mention this: Budget airlines in Europe literally hire anyone that completes their academies (because their academies are ussually cheap to do but sign you into a contract with them) So many of the pilots are not as experienced as on other airlines. (Its not only with Ryanair, WizzAir also does this)
Floating also comes with a higher risk of go-arounds which is much more costly than taxiing a bit more. Besides, soft landings can be even harder on the landing gears than firm landings because they can make the gear wobble around.
I asked a Ryanair pilot before. Landing gear comes out later than usual to reduce drag and they also don't drag the flaps on landing, both to increase fuel economy but means they often come in hotter. Both new and experienced pilots do the same but you can tell the new ones because the landings are rough, the experience ones can land smoothly even when coming in hot.
I flew with them 12 times last year, mostly to the main airport in Oslo (long runway), and 10 of those landings are the 10 "firmest" landings I've experienced. I flew 25 times last year alone.
A lot of landings are done by computers, which could land smoothly in most conditions. When initially implemented this made pilots nervous, so the computers were reprogrammed for firmer landings so the pilots could be very certain they were on the ground
I read that they also use just the amount of fuel needed to fly from A to B. So when a plane “floats” above the runway it may result in a “go-around” with little fuel left. Which isn’t the smartest thing to do.
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The 737 can really handle a lot of stuff...
...except a specific software.
We won't talk about it
nor can it keep its plug doors from flying off mid flight
MCAS
@@sirrudy1233Spirit AeroSystems designs and manufactures the door plugs for the MAX9 and the -900ER. Not really a type-specific defect like MCAS.
*MCAS*
“I paid for the landing gear so I’m gonna use the landing gear”
Landing gear being used either way so more like dampers.
@@harlisviikmae6240☝️🤓☝️🤓☝️🤓 lookin & soundin ass boi
They paid for the maintenance, so they’re gonna use it. Almost everything on an aircraft has a limited lifetime and regular checks anyway.
@@saldol9862news flash: they also paid for the landing gear when they bought the plane
@@cheenis420 wow, you're quite the petulant child.
You missed their point, and made up stuff to replace it. They never said the landing gear didn't come with the plane, they said they're paying for maintenance for the plane anyway, so mine as well use it by not bothering with being smooth.
My dad was a pilot, he said you can always tell if the airline pilot was a retired navy guy because they come in hot and fast.
Yep because fiction from tires and the runway slow down faster than just brakes. Plus the gear is much beefier. The P8 prefers a harder landing over a soft one. Saves on maintenance costs and reliability.
@@hunt6811 most low IQ thing I've ever read. Hope ur not serious
wich it may be true but in europe there is only one carrier with arrestor wires (the french mn charles de gaulle) and i suspect that most of those few rafale flying pilots will end up at air france and not ryanair
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And that was just in the bedroom.
Ryanair pilot here. This is the first video I see that is pretty accurate. It says in our manuals to make a positive landing and not to hold off the nose wheel to make an overly smooth landing. The reason for this is as stated in the video. Furthermore, Stansted for example is our biggest base. Chances are that if you fly with Ryanair, you may have landed on Stansted (runway 22) or a similar airport which has an exit that saves a lot of taxi time but is very hard to make if we don't make a positive landing and use extra braking action. And last but not least: we are an airline that trains A LOT of pilots; especially at big bases such as Dublin, Stansted or Bergamo. This means that the first officer may still be in line training or just finished it and makes a bit of a harder landing every now and then. One of the reasons for this aside from a lack of experience is, that if you just started flying, the landing gear touches down sooner than you expect to as it's a bit 'lower' than what you are used to from the simulators. In my opinion the captains I've flown with are usually very good and their landings are as they should be as well. I'll be leaving the company this month, but I'm glad I did my training with them, as their training regime was mostly amazing.
Damn, why is this not the top comment? Also I have flown with Ryanair once and the landing wasn't hard at all.
How mnay door blew off in your time?
@@Apexdestroyer25 Yes indeed
Pilots: it’s designed for hard landings
Mechanics: so we have way more gear changes than other airlines
it is a massive pain to change out landing gear. I rememberd a miscommunication incident at work almost resulted in this after an eval on a crack came bad
They don't change them more since they are made for it. All planes have a mandatory change age on the gear. Ryan air does that just as every other airline. They dont last longer or shorter then other airlines
LOL and tire and brake changes as well!
@@larsmeijerink5471 Yeah no way Ryanair would do something that would drive maintenance costs up. They’re all about profit extraction after all
@@larsmeijerink5471 Harder landings sure do make a difference. The brakes are very susceptible to hard and short braking, same goes for the tires. And hard landings overall can cause major damage to the exterior and skeleton of the plane. Even minor cracks might be huge problems, we have to do so much inspecting on the landing gear if a hard landing happends.
A firm landing also prevents the risk of a long landing with a mandatory go around, so they can save time ensuring they land first try
This is exactly the right reason, it’s literally in their SOPs. The child in the video hasn’t got a clue what he’s yapping about.
No SOPs in Ryanair states that you have to land firmly..
@@foltan1this is quite literally what the dude in the video said
@@foltan1the kid in the video just said that, try to listen first before saying stupid things
I was thinking this too, especially if they're at smaller airports they can't float as far before having to go around, which would cost a lot of time and fuel
"Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing."
not according to ww2 japanese pilots
no definitely not - many pilots have been fired for "good" landings. You are not obviously from the industry,
"And if the airplane is still usable after if then it's a great one"
Tell that to the owner of the airplane
That would be russian Aeroflot, not Ryanair.
“Slightly more firm landings”
*shows a Ryanair 737 stalling onto the runway*
Well, as a friend of mine said, "Landings are just controlled stalls on a runway"
@@mezaviation I mean, they technically are
That was the part where he was trying to illustrate that trying to land soft can lead to delays.
Did no one even see the butter when he said they land smoothly?
Are you making subtitles for deaf and blind people??
I too flew a few times with Ryanair, and their landings weren’t that bad. In fact, some were actually very smooth.
It probably depends on whether they had a larger-than-expected head- or tail-wind. A pilot who's 15 minutes early prolly has more leeway in their approach.
@@lozoft9 There was one time my flight with ryanair was 2 and a bit hours delayed but somehow arrive only like 15 minutes after the ETA. Those pilots are insane.
@@withersheep9009iirc Ryan air has some of the best pilots since they can fly more efficiently
i know right fr people that say ryanair has super hard landings just have no IQ i flew with ryanair like 7 times and 2 were a bit more hard bruh
I remember hearing somewhere that Ryanair has a big rotation in pilots as many new pilots go to ryanair and then after getting experience move to something like Lufthansa, British Airways, etc.
that is true, ryanair is usually a very easy stepping stone to other better paying jobs
ryanair (specifically the polish branch of ryanair) pays a good amount of money to new pilots and is used to gain hours and experience so said pilot can then apply for bigger airlines like BA and fly long haul
Yes. This is the real reason. The video is bunk.
I was about to comment the same. I was also told this by a ryanair member of staff.
So basically what you're saying is, im most likely to die on ryan air 😂
One of the qualifying traits required of a Ryanair pilot is the ability to catch a 3 wire.
Carrier joke, well played Sir.
“Slightly firmer” shows a clip of giving all of business class a fucking concussion
I flew to Madeira on Ryanair. Madeira airport is notorious for its difficult approach and landings, I was kinda scared but to my surprise it was one of the smoothest landings I've ever experienced. I'll never forget that, and I even complimented the captain afterward, I told him "that was one of the best landings I've ever experienced". He seemed pleased
I usually compliment the crew in my way out of the plane and is such a joy seeing their eyes glowing and smiling 😊 not many people do that nowadays... And I like my pilots to be cocky and positive. If that makes their egos grow bigger the better. Those pilots need tons of confidence on what they are doing!
I have a bit to add as a former airport ground handler at a major Ryanair base...
The turnaround time is a bit of a misnomer, as this is counted from the plane arriving on stand (the timer starts as soon as it has stopped) until pushback (the timer stops as soon as the plane starts moving). Any time spent taxiing is a part of the block time (the amount of time the plane is spending off the chocks). At some of their more complicated airports (Dublin, Copenhagen-Kastrup, Barcelona), planes can end up taxiing for upwards of 10-15 minutes.
Same like in CGK. If the gate is at Terminal 2 but the runway to be used is 7R/25L, you're in for a loooooooong taxiing. Same if your gate is at Terminal 1 and the runway is 6/24
I generally believe you more with airplanes than other channels, but in the past I've heard that smooth landings use more fuel and they want to save on money.
I haven’t heard of that before, do you remember why that is?
@@LuxPlanesi mean technically if they stop quicker theyll need less reverse thrust and taxiing longer also takes more fuel
@@KSP_Aviationis it really that much though compared to gear maintenance
@@danielnorth9902 737s are made to land hard and the average ryanair landings are still smooth compared to what it can handle
@KSP_Aviation firmer landings generally slow the plane down quicker, minimises the risk of go around and like mentioned in the vid helps when landing at shorter runways which ryanair tends to do as a budget airline flying to many smaller alternative airports
They land hard so the 90% of the passengers wouldn't clap after the bad landing 💀
I was a pallet rider all the time in the army (a soldier that rides on the channel air missions (military flights) when they transport your units gear and equipment to a deployment or back. After doing that a few times where the pilots slam the plane onto the runway because it’s only the pilot, copilot aircrew and you and maybe 1-2 other pallet riders, you get use to hard landings pretty fast. My first one I thought we crashed we hit so hard. I asked the Captain afterwards what happened and he had no idea what I was talking about.
"The plane is in one piece and you're alive, what's the problem?"
@@jblyon2 Any landing that you can walk away from...
@@john1703 is a good landing
I'm sure the maintenance guys are getting lots of work.
When this tires bounce on the runway, they make a funny noise "boeing-boeing..."😅
Excellent excellent joke sir😂
People who like eating planes
👇👇👇
Yas sir
There are people that don’t??
@@LuxPlanes no clue bro. But pin it fr fr.
Wait willzwu?!?
@@LuxPlanesI do 😅
"The 737 is not meant to be landed smoothly"
I agree. Every moment it spends not airborne increases safety.
As long as it isn't Max 8 and above
the 737NG and 737MAX are two completely different airplanes, the NG (the one ryanair uses) is half a century old and very safe, the other not so much
@@theroyalcam 737 MAX 8 and above are the unsafe ones.
Too bad really, because apparently the CEO who was fired is not the one responsible for all the deaths. It's the previous CEO who was responsible, and he gets away scott free.
I've been using Ryanair for flights back to and from Italy and also across Europe since 2003. I've never had a single 'hard landing', and only once did I experience delays and that was due to a bomb scare at luton airport. Love ryanair.
As a ryanair flier
They would certainly slam the plane nose first into tarmac if it would mean atleast 10 of us would survive
Bro probably cant even afford to fly on ryanair
@@Tamago443 would you also even afford it?
@@ThatGulfstream_G650 yes, it's literally 50$
You clearly not a pilot so the joke is getting old
@@jamesdukes597 he means being a passenger not a pilot
Every Ryanair pilot were retired navy pilot
The 737 (plane that RYR uses) manual actually instruct for "positive contact" due to things like the spoilers not deploying automatically etc. Centreline and Touchdown zone matters more.
My dad is an airline pilot. To add some context in the actual training for flying the pilots are trained to ‘firmly plant’ the aircraft onto the runway to wood any risks of things that could go wrong. Hope this helps.
Onto vs. into...
Judgement call evidently for RyanAir
Ryan Air: _"we fukken here, get off"_
Don't forget Pegasus. They literally land at the worst weather conditions, they don't even go around.
it is also due to fuel efficiency, firm landings take less fuel to perform
Same, I’ve flown with them and they’re pretty good. People who haven’t flown with them assume they are bad
“You get what you pay for” 💀
“Slightly harder than other airlines”
The safer option:
Hold up-Wait a minute,Something aint right 💀
Ryanair is actually one of the Safest airlines
Yes
True for all European airlines as they're subject to the same regulations
Yeah right.
Except for your knees
Take it from a former Ryanair pilot - that is BOLLOCKS! The inexperience on the flight deck is alarming and when fuel regulations were changed a few years ago in Europe, there were 3 emergency calls on the first day because Ryanair sucked out every drop of fuel they were now legally allowed to. I applaud the owner, despise the company!
Something this video forgets to mention is that pilots are trained to land rough when operating from short fields. The reasoning being it's better to hit your aiming point (usually the 1000FT markers) than overrun a runway. Some POHs also say to apply "heavy braking" during short field landings for fairly self explanatory reasons.
I'm from Argentina, and "Aeroparque Jorge Newbery" is one of the main Airports of the Capital City Buenos Aires. But it's a very short runway and every landing there is hard and with every single brake system (mechanical, aerodynamic... Throwing anchors through the windows..) is applied every single time. They are ones of the best landings I experience because the rush in adrenaline! And that's even better if it's a rainy and windy NIGHT! HAHAHAA
harder landings are actually safer anyways. as long as they aren’t too hard ofc
Don't forget the fact that a straight out of flight school cadet pilot can enter Ryanair. This means less overall experience and flight hours, which might result in some firm landings
1) Where else are pilots supposed to ge eyperience, when no one else hires them?
2) What you said kind of doesn't make sense, cause more experienced pilots know what's safer and cheaper (better).
@@Pomeranc470 answer to the first one: exactly, on Ryanair. It's on Ryanair that pilots get experience, but a quite good amount of them are haven't gained that experience.
As for the second, I didn't understand what you meant. Can you please repeat?
@@criancaanonima basicall, if you have experience, there's a higher chance that you know landing quickly is better
"thank you for choosing Ryanair, last year, we don't know what to do"
Your sentence doesn’t make any sense at all
@@yungrichnbroke5199how does this have 71 likes lmao, I couldn’t make out any of it as well
@@yungrichnbroke5199imagine how jarring this old sentence will become once we have to keep repeating it to some android pizza delivery cunt
Edited, and still absolutely no sense.
@@yungrichnbroke5199your reply doesn't make any sense at all.
I think people who joke and make fun of Ryan air landings are just children.
No duh
i joke about ryanair landings, does it count?
People shouldn't hate Ryanair because they're so good, none of their 737 MAXes have crashed yet
Most of them
"I paid for all the suspension travel, so ima use all the suspension travel"
It helps the oleo strut seals to be fully stoked.
Despite the firm landings unironically they have never had a fatal crash.
No wonder they don't own the Maxes
but they do tho
@@Junimeek I'm sure that will go well for all involved.
Spirit is worser than ryanair
Never got to try them yet
I think that's probably because US airlines can to a lot of things that would be highly illegal in the rest of the world.
@@somethinglikethat2176Absolutely the other way around.
I'd get on an Air Koyro flight before touching Spirit...
Slightly firm landings: the video showing such a hard landing
I'm Irish so i fly with Ryanair 90% of the time. People often give out about them but they are dirt cheap. Not a comfortable flight at all especially if you are over 6ft like myself, but half the time its cheaper for me to fly to London or Edinburgh than it is for me to get the train to Dublin and back. They do sales constantly so I've gotten flights to London for €7, Edinburgh for €14, and Warsaw for €30, for Americans its pretty much the exact same in dollars. Ryanair don't do long haul flights, and they dont go to the biggest airports so you pay for what you get. But for a 40 minute to 2 hour flight for the price of a Big Mac meal, you can handle a bit of discomfort.
Aircraft carrier Cpt.: If you don't make it, you're at the bottom of the sea.
Ryan Air CEO: If you don't make it you're fired.
The End, happy end 😅
I heard that since 737 has shorter landing gear, you can't flare as much to avoid tailstrike. Makes sense to me but correct me if I'm wrong
I’ve never heard of that myself, but it does indeed make complete sense, so I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s a factor Boeing took into consideration when defining their textbook 737 landing
No it’s fine. There is not really a tailstrike issue on landing.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 oh, do you know the reason?
@@izabela4405 reason for what? For the 737 to be hard to land? I’ve never heard that till RUclips. I used to fly the 737 and think it’s an easy airplane to land. I never heard another pilot say it’s hard to land. 🤷🏻♂️
In normal landing its almost impossible to do tail strike. Because Tail strike angle on 737 800 is arround 12 degrees and if you flare to 12 degrees during landing you will start climbing again and that means mandatory go arround anyway. Normally in 737 flaring arround 5 degrees does the job and sometimes even less.
But if a windshear happens then there is a chance to tail strike on go arround since 737 is low to ground. Especially 900 version.
i once traveled with ryan air and i was shocked when we landed. truly the hardest landing i’ve ever experienced and i’ve been around
This is partly correct. Ryanair doesn’t train or ask its pilots to touch down hard to save money or time though. The real reasons are as follows:
- As you mentioned, the 737 is not the easiest aircraft to land smoothly. Ryanair is a big feeder airline for new pilots entering the airline industry. Therefore their landings are still somewhat inconsistent.
- Ryanair flies to many airports with shorter runways as you mentioned. These necessitate aiming for a firmer touchdown to avoid floating down the runway. That said, during any landing you would aim to avoid floating as you are aiming for a specific touchdown zone.
- Ryanair pilots aren’t taught to touch down hard to save money / time like you state here. However the airline does prioritise efficiency which sometimes mean applying more brake pressure after touchdown to make an earlier runway exit. The general public tend to confuse this with a ‘rough landing’ as they happen in quick succession. Legacy airlines may prioritise passenger comfort over stopping performance.
Another point, and honestly the main reason many landing are harder than average, is because the pilots(i'm talking about the co-pilots, obviously, not the captains), don't have many hours clocked to begin with and are still somewhat learning.
Shorter runways, low time pilots, and the 73 isn’t the easiest aircraft to fly!
737 is an extremely simple aircraft to fly. To land in even more of a straightforward thing.
If hard is what you looking for, MD-11 come on top
@@QuanNguyen-nc3gm have you ever flown the 73? No you haven’t, my father flys it and it’s not the easiest aircraft to fly simple as that
@@Tayson888 I start out in the 737NG, 1500hrs in that before change to the A32F and soon the 330.
Again, The 737 is a simple and straightforward type to operate, there are nothing especially difficult about that when compare to other type. The only not so easy part about it is when you want a butter landing due to it slightly higher Vapp
@@QuanNguyen-nc3gmagree, but the A32F and A330 are even "simpler" - but well, what does simple mean anyways, right?
Each aircraft has its own challenges and then again, a lot is personal preference on what's "easier"/better to use and differs from person to person
Ofc you cannot compare those planes to the MD11 lol, completely different generations of planes 😂
But the MD11 isn't That hard..
"Know what's even harder to fly? The space shuttle!" 😂
@@crateer Ya, the guy above mention that his "dad" say the 737 is not an easy aircraft to fly, I just disagree with that notion, compare to other type there nothing particular difficult about it operation.
When I say simple and straightforward, I mean the aircraft is very simple in term of it operation and management, it do exactly what you tell it to do, during landing it a direct control input no nonsense involve mi cannot said the same about a A32F
The good landing isn't based on how smooth is it, it's based on where you touched down, usually pilot aims for touchdown zone mark, and, said in the video, smooth landing can result to a long landing, which isn't good especially on a shorter runway
Southwest: what do you mean I can only butter
Boeing did the 737 dirty 😭
They really didnt
@@Smuz3066 they ruined it's reputation so they sort of did, plus the fact that it's a design from the 60s and they aren't getting rid of it yet
Finally someone saying correct things about Ryanair. Great video.
Most of them lies🤣🤣 they are worried about efficiency..Thats a huge lie...
It’s not , trust me , the company is really efficient and every kg of fuel counts. Most of Ryanair’s pilot are perfectly capable of a “soft landing”, the fact is … that’s not always the correct procedure. In many occasions the correct technique is the opposite one , like this video explains pretty well.
People get too comfortable with air travel and forget they're in a massive metal tube being propelled by big spinny turbines at 600mph at 37,000 feet. Arriving alive is good enough, any added comfort is a bonus.
The thumbnail answers everything 😂
Ppl who eat nukes
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"Ryanair pilots suck 🤓👆"
They're get the work experience kids to fly.
people tend to forget than ryanair is just a really safe airline
No matter if theres reasonable explanations the jokes about being grand slammed back to earth will never cease
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My friend is becoming a pilot right now. He told me that landing was explained to them as a controlled crash basically.
A crash landing is the default... With that said most pilots don't learn the way older pilots did, ie, with a tail wheel. On a tail wheel you are stalling it into a 3 pointer at 5 foot above the ground and settling it down, least the ground loop monster find you.
FINALLY SOMEONE THAT UNDERSTANDS
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Bro you call that landing Butter? 💀
So your telling me, add a tail hook, and the 737 becomes Naval?
for refrence the reason the landing gear is desinged to be firmly landed on is because too smoth a landing can cause in oscelations that cause cracking, like those from side loading.
They do flap 3 landings to save 6 litres of fuel
The hard landing pilots are probably just retired navy pilots lmaoo
Having slightly more firm landings compared to other airlines
The background:
Ryanair Pilots favourite sport is Basketball.A slam dunk.
You cant imagine how much pressure it takes to stop a plane from flying onces its airborne.
i flew with ryanair a couple of times, and while the take off airport was a small one, the landing runway was rated for A380, the landing was butter
“…having slightly more firm landings” *airplane then does a gymnastics act with three half front flips* 💀
"Slightly more firm landing"
Shows an airplane jumping
The 737 firm landing is part of the quality test to make sure all the bolts are still in place
Also, they land faster than most other airlines, again, so they can be efficient with the quick stop, so they go from a fast to slow speed quickly.
Also forgot to mention this:
Budget airlines in Europe literally hire anyone that completes their academies (because their academies are ussually cheap to do but sign you into a contract with them)
So many of the pilots are not as experienced as on other airlines.
(Its not only with Ryanair, WizzAir also does this)
"737s are generally the safer option" this aged badly
Only max's are unsafe
Your content always keeps me coming back for more.
"Thankyou for choosing Ryanair, Last year we broke 3 million knees"....
Floating also comes with a higher risk of go-arounds which is much more costly than taxiing a bit more.
Besides, soft landings can be even harder on the landing gears than firm landings because they can make the gear wobble around.
"slightly more firm landings"
*plane literally sinks to the ground*
People when they realize the multi-million dollar plane meant to transport 200+ people is actually pretty damn sturdy 🤯
If your life is hard, then imagine your life as a Ryanair landing gear
My immediate thought was they hired more pilots from the navy
I asked a Ryanair pilot before. Landing gear comes out later than usual to reduce drag and they also don't drag the flaps on landing, both to increase fuel economy but means they often come in hotter. Both new and experienced pilots do the same but you can tell the new ones because the landings are rough, the experience ones can land smoothly even when coming in hot.
Don’t mind the customers then 😂😂😂
It's a public transportation, they're passengers, not customers. It's a literal air bus.
“Generally the safer option” That one didn’t age quite so well!
Honestly I've flown with Ryanair about 2-4 times and never felt a "rough" landing. The flights were always quite smooth
I flew with them 12 times last year, mostly to the main airport in Oslo (long runway), and 10 of those landings are the 10 "firmest" landings I've experienced. I flew 25 times last year alone.
Ryanair training be like:
"okay all you have to do is not butter and your hired!"
A lot of landings are done by computers, which could land smoothly in most conditions. When initially implemented this made pilots nervous, so the computers were reprogrammed for firmer landings so the pilots could be very certain they were on the ground
As a controller in the uk, Ryanair pilots actually tend to be some of the best pilots when I’m at work
they need to announce
„this is going to be a hard landing due to this airport being smaller.“
Landing hard in rain helps prevent aquaplaning.
I read that they also use just the amount of fuel needed to fly from A to B. So when a plane “floats” above the runway it may result in a “go-around” with little fuel left. Which isn’t the smartest thing to do.
People’s last words on a Ryanair landing
‘’PUT ON THE BRAKES
Sometimes it just comes with the pilot’s training. Navy Pilots are what comes to mind .
Whenever I fly I always have a rating system. If the landing is something, it’s an Air Force pilot. If it’s hard, it’s a Navy Pilot
Whenever there is a rough landing, I feel pity for the tires. I also have this irrational fear that what if the tires burst or break down
I flew with them many many times, normal landings and lovely flights for a low cost airline