@@GrumpyTim Hi :) Yes I still have it (and works well) BUT I did purchase a Nikon FTN , not long after (still have it also) I used the Nikon at My first job as a Newspaper, Photojournalist a couple of years later (1968). I enjoy Your channel :) ThankYou for all of Your hard work :) :) :)
@@GrumpyTim Hi :) I looked at Your Very interesting Website !!!!!!!!!!! :) :) At the seriously young age of just more than 16yrs. (very naive n a loner n socially inept) (I was little over 2and1/2 yrs younger than My school mates) and I was in college... My mother had driven Me to the college football game n of course took My camera n took My first sports photos, as My mother was driving Me home I saw a car accident n she stopped for Me to get a few snaps of the scene... I got home at about midnight and developed and printed a few photos..... the next morning I got on My bicycle and rode to the small hometown newspaper , I introduced myself to the Staff Photog... We chatted and he looked at the photos , he excused himself and came back about 20min later.... He had shown the photos to the Managing Editor,,, And I was offered a job as a Photographer and darkroom assistant..... I never realized how everything had fallen into place... Not but about 6 months later I was Called By One of the 20 largest newspaper in the USA, I interviewed and was offered a job just before turning 17yo........ Yes I was excited but did not realize the gravity of the opportunity .. About 55yrs ago..... Sorry I am far to Verbose :) :) :)
Hi Zed John, yeah, I haven't come across that system on any other cameras (although I bet it's out there somewhere). I've got some cameras where the advance lever switches the meter on when it's in the "out" position, and at least one camera that operates a shutter lock when the lever is fully home against the body, I can't remember which camera that was, but it definitely caught me out at first.
I do enjoy watching these old camera videos. I have a few of those too. My favourite to shoot on is probably the old Olympus Trip 35. Very different but easy to use and loads of fun!
Hi Matt, glad you're enjoying them. I haven't got an Olympus Trip.....yet, but it's probably only a matter of time. I rebuilt an Olympus Pen D for a friend last year, and they've just got an Olympus 35 RC, which is sitting on my bench waiting for me to service it for them. Both of those cameras will share some basic DNA with the Trip, so I can imagine how much fun the Trip is to use.
Hi ohjajohh, fixing them is part of the fun for me, although it can be frustrating at times, plus it takes way too long, but it is nice to save an otherwise useless ornament.
They don't like Takumar lenses Tim. I think there is a risk of the mirror hitting the mount. I've got three Mamiya bodies and don't know what to do with them if you're interested? One DTL, a DSX, and one MSX. I'm never going to use them.
Hi Neville, ah that's interesting about the Takumar lenses, I bet that means they wouldn't like the Yashinon ones that hit the mirror on the Cosina either. Yeah, I could be interested in some additional bodies, it's difficult to stop collecting once I've started!!!
@@GrumpyTim I have a Yashinon lens on the one, and it seems okay. Although, I haven't used it in anger, so to speak. If you want the bodies let me know.
Hi Neville, I might give both the Yashinon and Takumar lenses a try on the Mamiya......carefully, it's always a bit alarming when stuff hits the mirror, wouldn't want to damage the lens or the camera. I'd happily relieve you of unwanted bodies if you don't want/need them. You can always email me to discuss - grumpytimchannel@gmail.com
Also my first 'real' camera, after Kodak instamatics. My dad got it used from a newspaper photographer, and though likely heavily used, it worked perfectly, and no dents! The 50mm 2.0, however, had some play in the focus ring.
Excellent first camera Kevin, I similarly had a Kodak Instamatic before moving up to a very second hand Yashica SLR - happy times. I can't remember how the focus ring attaches on the Mamiya lenses but often the screws securing the focus ring on a lens will come loose making it feel terrible - usually a relatively easy fix, but not something I'd have attempted back then, I didn't have the required patience!
Hi Steven, I bet that was exciting - somehow having to save for something you really want when you're a kid just makes it more of an experience. Hopefully you enjoyed using it once you'd got it.
I think you manage to rescue enough unloved machinery without having to take pity on broken cameras as well Joseph. But I bet you'd be good at it if you did turn your attention in that direction.
This and the 500 dtl is my favourite 35mm sixties house. I had three but sold one because it felt weird to own three. Look no further. It takes fantastic pictures and yes it looks really good. I sold four Nikons after I found the Mamiya/Sekors. Nikon was the childhood pain that always seemed to work against me and ending up with boring photos while all the lenses I have bought to the Mamiyas has a wow factor. Ofcourse I had Nikon preferences but long story short for me Nikon became either too heavy, too boring or too overkill. This one is a Jeep and it sits just where a simple house needs to be. Just one drawback: there's a cable needed for the flash.
Hi Ola, I think everyone probably had that Nikon itch when they were a kid - I still like the Nikon stuff, but I have more fun using less popular cameras like the 500 DTL. One exception is my Nikon F-501 - that was an 80s dream and I still love using that thing, with it's 1980s soundtrack and period styling.
They have a robust, industrial look. M42 mount is handy . It’s a pity about the focusing screen as I really do prefer a split image one. I particularly like the shot with the incoming train at the bend in the tracks
Hi Conrad, robust and industrial, yeah, that seems pretty accurate, and probably a bit fairer than me likening it to a brick!!! I definitely find the split image viewfinders the best, particularly when the light isn't so good out there. The train shot was taken at Severn Valley Railway, well worth a visit if you ever venture that far into the middle of England, although there are probably equally nice preserved railways closer to home.
My understanding is that these cameras were built by Cosina. I believe there is an earlier non-metered Mamiya/Sekor 35mm camera with a bayonet mount lens.
Hi Steve, I would kind of doubt that the DTL and TL were made by Cosina but I could be mistaken. I don't know how detailed the information is on Cosina's website, but they seem to list 35mm SLR camera production as starting in 1969, at which time the TL and DTL were already out. I know Cosina have historically manufactured a lot of cameras and lenses for other, higher profile brands.
@@GrumpyTim Correct, brain fart on my part. This may sound far afield, but here is my Mamiya/Sekor story. In the 1960’s, Argus decided to sell a SLR with their name on it. They sold a meter less Argus SLR that was manufactured by Mamiya/Sekor. I had one with two lenses, 50mm and 13mm. Both were labeled Argus/Sekor with a proprietary bayonet mount. They only fit on the Argus SLR. Now for the Cosina link. When Argus came out with there next SLR, it was produced by Cosina. Once in awhile (about every 5 years or so) I will see someone selling one of the Mamiya generated Argus SLR’s.
Hi Steve, it's a complex and muddled world with so many manufacturers making things for other brands - someone recently told me about one of the Nikkorex cameras that was made by Mamiya (I think it was the Nikkorex F). I had considered getting an Argus SLR sometime, I've got an Argus C3 already, so the SLR could sit along side it - it's not something that I NEED, but maybe one day.......
I don't care much for the cameras, but the 1.4 prime lens on these if you find one is on par with the Helios for some of the most beautiful swirl bokeh you will find, it's a bit of a hidden gem in that regard. I actually prefer it over the super takumar and put it on par with my fujinon lens.
Yeah, I can understand that not everyone is going to fall in love with the Mamiya, I just tend to like the unloved cameras for some weird reason. If I ever stumble upon the 1.4 lens I'll grab it - not seen one so far, but there's always tomorrow.
Hi Bits in Motion, cameras seemed such cool things back in the 80s, I think I'd have loved something like your dad's ZE Quartz. I'm sure you're right about Ma-Mee-Yaa, but with many other cameras, people pronounce them in different ways - Nikon Ni-kon or Ny-kon, Praktica Prak-tee-ka, Prak-ti-sa, or Prak-tikka, Yashica Yash-ee-ka or Yash-ikka, Zenit or Zenith, I'm sure I could go on all day and I'm sure I'll be corrected even more times....
В разделе "История" нет истории. Зрителю интересно было бы знать точные даты начала и конца выпуска этих фотоаппаратов, имена конструкторов, концепцию...
Людям становится скучно, и они закрывают видео, если я включаю слишком много информации, поэтому я стараюсь делать все максимально кратко - невозможно все время угодить всем. Цель этих видео - дать общий обзор, а не глубокое погружение в историю производителя. People tend to get bored and click off the video if I include too much information, so I try to keep things as brief as possible - it's impossible to keep everyone happy all of the time. These videos are aimed to give a general overview rather than a deep dive into the history of a manufacturer.
My first SLR Camera !!!! ThankYou !!! Very Interesting !!! Put a Smile on My Face :) :) :)
Cheers John, a cracking camera to have as your first SLR. Did you eventually get rid of it and upgrade to something else?
@@GrumpyTim Hi :) Yes I still have it (and works well) BUT I did purchase a Nikon FTN , not long after (still have it also) I used the Nikon at My first job as a Newspaper, Photojournalist a couple of years later (1968). I enjoy Your channel :) ThankYou for all of Your hard work :) :) :)
Wow, that's excellent, glad you've still got them. Must have been a fun, or at least interesting, time to work as a photographer back then.
@@GrumpyTim Hi :) I looked at Your Very interesting Website !!!!!!!!!!! :) :) At the seriously young age of just more than 16yrs. (very naive n a loner n socially inept) (I was little over 2and1/2 yrs younger than My school mates) and I was in college... My mother had driven Me to the college football game n of course took My camera n took My first sports photos, as My mother was driving Me home I saw a car accident n she stopped for Me to get a few snaps of the scene... I got home at about midnight and developed and printed a few photos..... the next morning I got on My bicycle and rode to the small hometown newspaper , I introduced myself to the Staff Photog... We chatted and he looked at the photos , he excused himself and came back about 20min later.... He had shown the photos to the Managing Editor,,, And I was offered a job as a Photographer and darkroom assistant..... I never realized how everything had fallen into place... Not but about 6 months later I was Called By One of the 20 largest newspaper in the USA, I interviewed and was offered a job just before turning 17yo........ Yes I was excited but did not realize the gravity of the opportunity .. About 55yrs ago..... Sorry I am far to Verbose :) :) :)
Absolutely love my 35mm Mamiya cameras. I have NC1000S and ZM. They're truly undervalued underdogs.
Yeah, they seem to be great little workhorses that people rarely talk about, but I'm definitely a fan.
Interesting that stop-down & advance lever combo, never seen that before! Looks intuitive and easy to use
Hi Zed John, yeah, I haven't come across that system on any other cameras (although I bet it's out there somewhere). I've got some cameras where the advance lever switches the meter on when it's in the "out" position, and at least one camera that operates a shutter lock when the lever is fully home against the body, I can't remember which camera that was, but it definitely caught me out at first.
I do enjoy watching these old camera videos. I have a few of those too. My favourite to shoot on is probably the old Olympus Trip 35. Very different but easy to use and loads of fun!
Hi Matt, glad you're enjoying them. I haven't got an Olympus Trip.....yet, but it's probably only a matter of time. I rebuilt an Olympus Pen D for a friend last year, and they've just got an Olympus 35 RC, which is sitting on my bench waiting for me to service it for them. Both of those cameras will share some basic DNA with the Trip, so I can imagine how much fun the Trip is to use.
Nice video, it's really amazing how you're able to disassemble these camera's and get them working again
Hi ohjajohh, fixing them is part of the fun for me, although it can be frustrating at times, plus it takes way too long, but it is nice to save an otherwise useless ornament.
Good work Tim. Nice solid camera!
Yeah, solid as a rock Ben, a real tough camera without any unnecessary frills.
I got one some time ago but it was in poor shape and our friend Gus had some Fun with the lens !
I reckon you could probably drive over one of these cameras and it would still survive - no I'm not going to test out my theory!!!
They don't like Takumar lenses Tim. I think there is a risk of the mirror hitting the mount. I've got three Mamiya bodies and don't know what to do with them if you're interested? One DTL, a DSX, and one MSX. I'm never going to use them.
Hi Neville, ah that's interesting about the Takumar lenses, I bet that means they wouldn't like the Yashinon ones that hit the mirror on the Cosina either. Yeah, I could be interested in some additional bodies, it's difficult to stop collecting once I've started!!!
@@GrumpyTim I have a Yashinon lens on the one, and it seems okay. Although, I haven't used it in anger, so to speak. If you want the bodies let me know.
Hi Neville, I might give both the Yashinon and Takumar lenses a try on the Mamiya......carefully, it's always a bit alarming when stuff hits the mirror, wouldn't want to damage the lens or the camera. I'd happily relieve you of unwanted bodies if you don't want/need them. You can always email me to discuss - grumpytimchannel@gmail.com
Also my first 'real' camera, after Kodak instamatics. My dad got it used from a newspaper photographer, and though likely heavily used, it worked perfectly, and no dents! The 50mm 2.0, however, had some play in the focus ring.
Excellent first camera Kevin, I similarly had a Kodak Instamatic before moving up to a very second hand Yashica SLR - happy times. I can't remember how the focus ring attaches on the Mamiya lenses but often the screws securing the focus ring on a lens will come loose making it feel terrible - usually a relatively easy fix, but not something I'd have attempted back then, I didn't have the required patience!
Saved all my lunch money to buy it when I was in the eighth grade
Hi Steven, I bet that was exciting - somehow having to save for something you really want when you're a kid just makes it more of an experience. Hopefully you enjoyed using it once you'd got it.
Nice hobby to have. I dont see me doing this kind of one but haha cheers :)
I think you manage to rescue enough unloved machinery without having to take pity on broken cameras as well Joseph. But I bet you'd be good at it if you did turn your attention in that direction.
This and the 500 dtl is my favourite 35mm sixties house. I had three but sold one because it felt weird to own three. Look no further. It takes fantastic pictures and yes it looks really good. I sold four Nikons after I found the Mamiya/Sekors. Nikon was the childhood pain that always seemed to work against me and ending up with boring photos while all the lenses I have bought to the Mamiyas has a wow factor. Ofcourse I had Nikon preferences but long story short for me Nikon became either too heavy, too boring or too overkill. This one is a Jeep and it sits just where a simple house needs to be. Just one drawback: there's a cable needed for the flash.
Hi Ola, I think everyone probably had that Nikon itch when they were a kid - I still like the Nikon stuff, but I have more fun using less popular cameras like the 500 DTL. One exception is my Nikon F-501 - that was an 80s dream and I still love using that thing, with it's 1980s soundtrack and period styling.
They have a robust, industrial look. M42 mount is handy . It’s a pity about the focusing screen as I really do prefer a split image one. I particularly like the shot with the incoming train at the bend in the tracks
Hi Conrad, robust and industrial, yeah, that seems pretty accurate, and probably a bit fairer than me likening it to a brick!!! I definitely find the split image viewfinders the best, particularly when the light isn't so good out there. The train shot was taken at Severn Valley Railway, well worth a visit if you ever venture that far into the middle of England, although there are probably equally nice preserved railways closer to home.
My understanding is that these cameras were built by Cosina. I believe there is an earlier non-metered Mamiya/Sekor 35mm camera with a bayonet mount lens.
Hi Steve, I would kind of doubt that the DTL and TL were made by Cosina but I could be mistaken. I don't know how detailed the information is on Cosina's website, but they seem to list 35mm SLR camera production as starting in 1969, at which time the TL and DTL were already out. I know Cosina have historically manufactured a lot of cameras and lenses for other, higher profile brands.
@@GrumpyTim Correct, brain fart on my part. This may sound far afield, but here is my Mamiya/Sekor story. In the 1960’s, Argus decided to sell a SLR with their name on it. They sold a meter less Argus SLR that was manufactured by Mamiya/Sekor. I had one with two lenses, 50mm and 13mm. Both were labeled Argus/Sekor with a proprietary bayonet mount. They only fit on the Argus SLR. Now for the Cosina link. When Argus came out with there next SLR, it was produced by Cosina. Once in awhile (about every 5 years or so) I will see someone selling one of the Mamiya generated Argus SLR’s.
Hi Steve, it's a complex and muddled world with so many manufacturers making things for other brands - someone recently told me about one of the Nikkorex cameras that was made by Mamiya (I think it was the Nikkorex F). I had considered getting an Argus SLR sometime, I've got an Argus C3 already, so the SLR could sit along side it - it's not something that I NEED, but maybe one day.......
I don't care much for the cameras, but the 1.4 prime lens on these if you find one is on par with the Helios for some of the most beautiful swirl bokeh you will find, it's a bit of a hidden gem in that regard. I actually prefer it over the super takumar and put it on par with my fujinon lens.
Yeah, I can understand that not everyone is going to fall in love with the Mamiya, I just tend to like the unloved cameras for some weird reason. If I ever stumble upon the 1.4 lens I'll grab it - not seen one so far, but there's always tomorrow.
Its Ma -Mee -Yaa. But great video. My dad's first camera was a Mamiya ZE Quartz SLR from the 80s.
Hi Bits in Motion, cameras seemed such cool things back in the 80s, I think I'd have loved something like your dad's ZE Quartz. I'm sure you're right about Ma-Mee-Yaa, but with many other cameras, people pronounce them in different ways - Nikon Ni-kon or Ny-kon, Praktica Prak-tee-ka, Prak-ti-sa, or Prak-tikka, Yashica Yash-ee-ka or Yash-ikka, Zenit or Zenith, I'm sure I could go on all day and I'm sure I'll be corrected even more times....
В разделе "История" нет истории. Зрителю интересно было бы знать точные даты начала и конца выпуска этих фотоаппаратов, имена конструкторов, концепцию...
Ever Heard Of Google ?????? :) :) :)
Людям становится скучно, и они закрывают видео, если я включаю слишком много информации, поэтому я стараюсь делать все максимально кратко - невозможно все время угодить всем. Цель этих видео - дать общий обзор, а не глубокое погружение в историю производителя.
People tend to get bored and click off the video if I include too much information, so I try to keep things as brief as possible - it's impossible to keep everyone happy all of the time. These videos are aimed to give a general overview rather than a deep dive into the history of a manufacturer.