Mephiles is actually trying to reunite with Iblis so they can become Solaris, Soleanna’s Sun God, again. The experiment the king was conducting had split Solaris into Iblis and Mephiles, and Mephiles has crazy OP time powers. He was always going to fuse with Iblis again, he was just trying to manipulate Silver into killing Sonic so that Elise would cry and free Iblis for the sake of having Silver end up dooming his own future, just because he wanted to. And when that sadistic plan failed due to Silver joining the heroes, Mephiles decides to stop playing around and straight up just kills Sonic himself. He could have done it at any time, he’s just that messed up in the head. And because they’re split from the same being, Iblis and Mephiles are technically one antagonist. Iblis is the mindless fire that wants to destroy everything indiscriminately, and Mephiles is the twisted, sadistic mind. The only reason Mephiles doesn’t just fuse with future Iblis is because he has to make sure Elise releases Iblis first. Similarly, the only reason Iblis isn’t immediately released when Eggman’s ship crashes is because Sonic goes back in time to save Elise from death. Even when Sonic saves her, the ship still crashes, which is what Sonic’s past self sees. Time travel is difficult to write, but if someone actually takes the time to go through the events of the game, apart from the point where they destroy Solaris, every other instance of time travel ends up causing itself in something known as a bootstrap paradox. In other words, the time travel causes itself. For example, someone traveling back in time to take a sandwich from their past self’s fridge because they were missing that sandwich for some unknown reason, only to realize that’s why their past self was missing the sandwich to begin with, is a bootstrap paradox. In the case of Sonic 06, it’s a more complex version of the same thing
I think the reason Mephiles didn't fuse with "Future Iblis" is because at that point, that version of Iblis has grown TOO powerful: he has to fuse with Iblis while it's still WEAK.
THere's a fun crossover around that isSonic with Jujutsu Kaisen, and in it I see many seeing Mephiles as Mahito, and I never understood entirely why. If what you said about Mephiles is true and all... yeah, I can see why he would be the Mahito. I dig it.
I never knew the name for the “All the time travel already happened which is caused by the time travel” sort of thing. Like when Church went back in Red vs Blue. Thanks for the new vocab!
3:23:58 This is probably the weirdest part of this section of the game. Silver leaves the blue Chaos Emerald with Elise who is implied to have held onto it for her whole life after that point but it’s have been canonically used in several games before. Is there just a second blue Chaos Emerald floating around in the background the whole time?
@@dylanjelly2265 "Meant to be a reboot" "Has Shadow, with all of his baggage" These things are mutually exclusive. The real answer is that they didn't think when writing that part, just like with everything else in this "game."
@@shadow98004except for some reason how time travel would work with a boot strap paradox. Sonic sees the egg carrier crash and Elise and egg man die so he goes back in time and saves them. But it still crashes so past sonic would have a reason to go back in time in the first place
@@utswriter _Do_ we actually see them die? Like, Iblis doesn't get released when the ship crashes, which would imply that Elise still has it sealed away, implying she's still alive. Yeah, the article from the future says she dies in the crash, but even in the timeline where Sonic _for sure_ saves her, they don't make it back to civilization before Mephiles kills Sonic, so the people of Soleanna would have no idea if she survived or not. So what if he _does_ always save her there, and Sonic literally just couldn't see them from where he was?
Sonic: has infinite meter Tails: causes slowdown Knuckles: gets stuck on walls Shadow: dismounting the vehicle makes his levels easier Rouge: can gain infinite height Omega: can fly over entire levels Silver: breaks the in-game physics Blaze: accidentally can walk on water Amy: can go out of bounds with her double jump
Bro, when I was in the theater watching Sonic Movie 2, some kid was crying over the Super Sonic part because he thought Sonic died. Sonic Movie 3’s gonna be an experience!
For some context for your question at 3:34:29 that is Silver’s theme “Dreams of an Absolution” each campaign has the character’s theme music play at the credits
Oh yeah the whole “it’s animated therefor for kids” is how I got into anime. My mom found a collection of gundam wing VHSs at a thrift store and got them for me back in early grade school. Thankfully I didn’t pick up any bad language or anything for my parents to freak out about but I do now have an obsession with giant robots and sci-fi machines.
While 06 story was dog water. They actually do explain why elises dad sealed it into her and not himself. Because it's shown when elise and eggman die iblis gets set free and we get silvers timeline. So if he sealed it into himself or someone who is about to die there would have been no point into sealing iblis anyway
27:34 I think if there is any proof that some parents are truly disconnected from reality, it’s the belief that a cartoon cannot be made for an adult audience. Like somehow, it being drawn, somehow makes it for kids, as if they had never seen a drawing of boobs or wangs in there childhoods (likely drawn by kids).
so, the reason this (3:16:10) happens, is because elise was literally the only option, iblis was barely held back by silver, and everyone else that was in that room died, so he couldn't force iblis inside himself without sommeone else to do the ritual, despite this being the only option it's still one of the worst ideas ever lmao
She deadass made the video feel almost twice as long because of her talking and the break, that’s fucking crazy lmao I’m not saying that to be rude, I’m just saying that it’s wild how talking can really lengthen a reaction stream / video. Granted she was pausing like, every 5-10 minutes so…
ah yes i love it when a react steamer just sits there and goes "hah" "thats cool" "neat" every 5 mins and not contribute or transform the content in any other way.
38:05 sonic 06 was and still is god awful, but two things the game did unbelievably well were character writing, and mephiles, who is the only character from this game sonic fans are still begin to come back
Mfs will just say anything and people will agree. Mephiles is like integral to the story, this whole thing just didn’t show it off because that wasn’t what they were going for, but saying he’s a pointless character who “shows up once, kills Sonic, and leaves” simply isn’t true. He’s literally the main villain of the game and is the cause for most of if not all of the events in the story
hey i know this is an old video but have you considered getting a gameboy advanced SP? its about half the size of a 3ds. also i agree on the pockets thing, if i can fit both a switch AND a switch-lite in the same pocket, but girls cant even put their wallets in their pockets? that's some BS! and the "more buttons thing is an issue, my steam deck has 4 extra buttons on the grips (2 on each side) love the video btw.
27:27 *inhale* I have only seen the first episode of Hazbin Hotel here on RUclips, but.... Doesnt each episode start with a Viewer Digression Advised disclaimer, or is that only a Helluva Boss thing?
far as i could find, before this video happened Lythero played sonic and shadow campaign, but never got around to silver and it seems people were still asking fo rsilver. which is why the video is called the silver campaign. so that people know it happened. tho its doing all of it again cause twitch chat
Honestly if you think anything that is animated is meant for kids, you don't deserve to be a parent. How "Amish" do you have to be of not knowing that there are adult content out there that is animated right now?! 😅
Stream starts at 6:14
Reaction at 14:03
Break at 1:57:04-2:18:00
I know that this comment is 3 months ago, but you need to know that you're a god send for this
I love how Lythero spent more time trying to glitch through the beach level with Omega than it would have taken to just play it normally.
When you're playing a very boring section, you're going to do anything to make it fun
@@kyotanaka920 factd
I think we all did the same thing back then there was no way you could do the level normally
Do you know what song plays then? I’m trying to find it
Mephiles is actually trying to reunite with Iblis so they can become Solaris, Soleanna’s Sun God, again. The experiment the king was conducting had split Solaris into Iblis and Mephiles, and Mephiles has crazy OP time powers. He was always going to fuse with Iblis again, he was just trying to manipulate Silver into killing Sonic so that Elise would cry and free Iblis for the sake of having Silver end up dooming his own future, just because he wanted to. And when that sadistic plan failed due to Silver joining the heroes, Mephiles decides to stop playing around and straight up just kills Sonic himself. He could have done it at any time, he’s just that messed up in the head. And because they’re split from the same being, Iblis and Mephiles are technically one antagonist. Iblis is the mindless fire that wants to destroy everything indiscriminately, and Mephiles is the twisted, sadistic mind. The only reason Mephiles doesn’t just fuse with future Iblis is because he has to make sure Elise releases Iblis first. Similarly, the only reason Iblis isn’t immediately released when Eggman’s ship crashes is because Sonic goes back in time to save Elise from death. Even when Sonic saves her, the ship still crashes, which is what Sonic’s past self sees. Time travel is difficult to write, but if someone actually takes the time to go through the events of the game, apart from the point where they destroy Solaris, every other instance of time travel ends up causing itself in something known as a bootstrap paradox. In other words, the time travel causes itself. For example, someone traveling back in time to take a sandwich from their past self’s fridge because they were missing that sandwich for some unknown reason, only to realize that’s why their past self was missing the sandwich to begin with, is a bootstrap paradox. In the case of Sonic 06, it’s a more complex version of the same thing
I think the reason Mephiles didn't fuse with "Future Iblis" is because at that point, that version of Iblis has grown TOO powerful: he has to fuse with Iblis while it's still WEAK.
THere's a fun crossover around that isSonic with Jujutsu Kaisen, and in it I see many seeing Mephiles as Mahito, and I never understood entirely why. If what you said about Mephiles is true and all... yeah, I can see why he would be the Mahito.
I dig it.
I never knew the name for the “All the time travel already happened which is caused by the time travel” sort of thing. Like when Church went back in Red vs Blue. Thanks for the new vocab!
3:23:58 This is probably the weirdest part of this section of the game. Silver leaves the blue Chaos Emerald with Elise who is implied to have held onto it for her whole life after that point but it’s have been canonically used in several games before. Is there just a second blue Chaos Emerald floating around in the background the whole time?
well this game was meant to be a reboot, thats why its just called "Sonic the hedgehog", just like the first game.
@@dylanjelly2265 "Meant to be a reboot"
"Has Shadow, with all of his baggage"
These things are mutually exclusive. The real answer is that they didn't think when writing that part, just like with everything else in this "game."
@@shadow98004except for some reason how time travel would work with a boot strap paradox. Sonic sees the egg carrier crash and Elise and egg man die so he goes back in time and saves them. But it still crashes so past sonic would have a reason to go back in time in the first place
Then there’s sonic generations
@@utswriter _Do_ we actually see them die? Like, Iblis doesn't get released when the ship crashes, which would imply that Elise still has it sealed away, implying she's still alive.
Yeah, the article from the future says she dies in the crash, but even in the timeline where Sonic _for sure_ saves her, they don't make it back to civilization before Mephiles kills Sonic, so the people of Soleanna would have no idea if she survived or not. So what if he _does_ always save her there, and Sonic literally just couldn't see them from where he was?
>silver campaign reaction video
>length is almost twice the og vid
"What the hell happened here?"
A bunch of tangents is what happened.
Sonic: has infinite meter
Tails: causes slowdown
Knuckles: gets stuck on walls
Shadow: dismounting the vehicle makes his levels easier
Rouge: can gain infinite height
Omega: can fly over entire levels
Silver: breaks the in-game physics
Blaze: accidentally can walk on water
Amy: can go out of bounds with her double jump
Seems balanced to me 😂
You forgot
Blaze: trips on a battlement and rockets out of the material plane
Omg yes. I just kinda discovered Lythero's content and boy I need more people reacting to this gem of a video
i hope so too
Bro, when I was in the theater watching Sonic Movie 2, some kid was crying over the Super Sonic part because he thought Sonic died.
Sonic Movie 3’s gonna be an experience!
Especially with Keanu as Shadow
Aww, really neat to see the new kids actually care about the characters in maybe get invested in the movie like the sonic live action films
Crazy how so many 30 something year olds are so excited to see a little girl die in a movie about a talking hedgehog.
I'm also one of them.
3:03:26 blaze Literally has two games starring her
Hearing you ramble is like being in school and the teacher stops teach to talk about her personal life and everyone in class is super supportive
For some context for your question at 3:34:29 that is Silver’s theme “Dreams of an Absolution” each campaign has the character’s theme music play at the credits
2:51:00 They could call it the WiiMaster, since it'd be a Remaster
Oh yeah the whole “it’s animated therefor for kids” is how I got into anime. My mom found a collection of gundam wing VHSs at a thrift store and got them for me back in early grade school. Thankfully I didn’t pick up any bad language or anything for my parents to freak out about but I do now have an obsession with giant robots and sci-fi machines.
Memphis Tennessee:
*Shows up*
*Kills Sonic*
*Refuses to elaborate*
*Leaves*
While 06 story was dog water. They actually do explain why elises dad sealed it into her and not himself. Because it's shown when elise and eggman die iblis gets set free and we get silvers timeline. So if he sealed it into himself or someone who is about to die there would have been no point into sealing iblis anyway
1:06:56
Like how reactors mention iblis trigger doing a flip before dying like sonic
27:34 I think if there is any proof that some parents are truly disconnected from reality, it’s the belief that a cartoon cannot be made for an adult audience.
Like somehow, it being drawn, somehow makes it for kids, as if they had never seen a drawing of boobs or wangs in there childhoods (likely drawn by kids).
Its hilarious considering in the 1930's initially cartoons were made for adults and a general audience first.
Its the whole concept that fiction is for kids. Its idiotic. As if a story being further from reality makes it somehow inherently childish.
I just found your channel and love your energy and personality and fellow MHA fan and a sonic fan especially fellow silver is a great character fan
More tangents in this reaction than any math class I've ever had combined, 10/10
so, the reason this (3:16:10) happens, is because elise was literally the only option, iblis was barely held back by silver, and everyone else that was in that room died, so he couldn't force iblis inside himself without sommeone else to do the ritual, despite this being the only option it's still one of the worst ideas ever lmao
She deadass made the video feel almost twice as long because of her talking and the break, that’s fucking crazy lmao
I’m not saying that to be rude, I’m just saying that it’s wild how talking can really lengthen a reaction stream / video. Granted she was pausing like, every 5-10 minutes so…
ah yes i love it when a react steamer just sits there and goes "hah" "thats cool" "neat" every 5 mins and not contribute or transform the content in any other way.
@@blueriot7660 My favorite is when she talks over other people talking, and then misses the joke. Also, nice strawman.
I watch reactions for the reactor. Wtf u smoking
@@TheGallantDrake I was smoking Silver, thats what
Long story short, Mephiles hijacked Shadow's shadow after being removed from Solaris. And according to Ian Flynn he's the Time Eater after the reset
38:05 sonic 06 was and still is god awful, but two things the game did unbelievably well were character writing, and mephiles, who is the only character from this game sonic fans are still begin to come back
Mfs will just say anything and people will agree. Mephiles is like integral to the story, this whole thing just didn’t show it off because that wasn’t what they were going for, but saying he’s a pointless character who “shows up once, kills Sonic, and leaves” simply isn’t true. He’s literally the main villain of the game and is the cause for most of if not all of the events in the story
hey i know this is an old video but have you considered getting a gameboy advanced SP? its about half the size of a 3ds.
also i agree on the pockets thing, if i can fit both a switch AND a switch-lite in the same pocket, but girls cant even put their wallets in their pockets? that's some BS!
and the "more buttons thing is an issue, my steam deck has 4 extra buttons on the grips (2 on each side)
love the video btw.
Dam that year old showing Todoroki thirst traps was the highlight.
"lAsT aIrBeNdEr Is FoR bAbIeS"
Me: *laughs in Slendermonkey, then suddenly deadpan stares in blood-bending*
(For context: Slendermonkey is my personal nickname for the faceless monkey Aang sees outside that face-stealing centipede spirit's den in Season 1)
Memphis is the other half of Solaris, like Iblis is. His whole goal was to make Elise cry, making her release Iblis, and then unite with Iblis
1:53:50 Something something "darkness within darkness" and Kingdom Hearts?
27:27 *inhale* I have only seen the first episode of Hazbin Hotel here on RUclips, but....
Doesnt each episode start with a Viewer Digression Advised disclaimer, or is that only a Helluva Boss thing?
It doesn't apperently
Which is especially bad for one episode of it with *heavy* stuff
It's just a Helluva Boss thing
Could've been worse. The cousin n kids could've discovered elfen lied at that age, like a good chunk of the internet :D
3:25:21 the best silver pic to ever been made
Shadow is not a shadow of Sonic
34:00 Throughout Heaven and Earth, I alone am the Silver One
I mean silver has a stun attack that stuns robots/creatures and then he can chuck them
far as i could find, before this video happened Lythero played sonic and shadow campaign, but never got around to silver
and it seems people were still asking fo rsilver. which is why the video is called the silver campaign. so that people know it happened.
tho its doing all of it again cause twitch chat
Man, they’re play through is insane and awesome
26:50 at least that's a kids game ? Kids in Japan have been doing that for a long time
1:04:28 she's the turtle queen chat
Wait mha was in 2014
You could not stop talking to save your fucking life that's crazy
Facts
its almost like the purpose of reacting to a video is to react to it! crazy concept i know..
Werewolves rule 💪🔥🐺
2:42:52 man
So many yap it added extra 1 hour to react
Bruh said domain expansion
Honestly if you think anything that is animated is meant for kids, you don't deserve to be a parent. How "Amish" do you have to be of not knowing that there are adult content out there that is animated right now?! 😅
Why tf she so quite?
I literally have to max my volume to hear her.
it's crazy how I also have the same exact opinion on silver and blaze (down to mario and sonic on the ds) but be so drastically different
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